Is Biden Boosting Ukraine's Defence Against Russia With Obsolete Soviet-Era Kazakhstan Jets?
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- čas přidán 25. 05. 2024
- The US has reportedly acquired 81 obsolete Soviet-era combat aircraft from Kazakhstan. According to Kyiv Post, the declared sale value was $2.26 million in total with the average value for each plane being $19,300. The deal came after the Kazakh government advertised the sale of 117 fighter and bomber aircraft acquired when it was a part of the Soviet Union. These Cold War-era aircraft were put up for sale in October 2023 due to their obsolescence and the uneconomical nature of their repair. Kazakhstan has been gradually replacing its outdated fleet of Soviet-made combat aircraft with modern jets. Watch the video to find out more.
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0:00 - INTRODUCTION
1:13 - WHICH JETS DID THE US BUY?
1:56 - WHY DID THE US BUY OLD, OBSOLETE SOVIET JETS?
3:04 - KAZAKHSTAN WALKING ON TIGHT DIPLOMATIC ROPE
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Ukrainians know how to fix and fly them. Thanks, Kazakhstan!
"Thanks, Kazakhstan!"
For what America bought them. They were not donated.
@@ragingmonk6080 sold for peanuts
@@litchips "sold for peanuts"
It said they are obsolete. lol
Russia know how to shut down, it's not a problem.
These are likely going to be used for spare parts and as decoys.
I doubt there are many spare parts in it. For $19k, it will have no engine, weapons, or avionics.
Maybe after titanium frame of old su27😊
@@darkcloud5830 Decoys then.
The time has come? Nothing else but reverse engineering. The US is still can’t get over that other nations can produce perfectly working war machines on a low cost.
@@raeyzor Maybe. Or use it for propaganda.
20k per plane? dämn new Audi's are more expensive....how it can be so low price or they true junk?
It got to be stripped. No way it is that cheap.
Fly and crash
Fly and crash
Maybe using them as kamikaze planes like the Japs did in World War Two to sink the American ships. Damn good idea!
They can be converted to one way heavy duty kamikaze drones
Double-sided.))
Wow. Suicide bomber. I really thought that western value human life. Apparently not with this shit comment
If there is an engine on it. $19K wouldn't even cover the cost of a broken engine.
@darkcloud5830 it's very likely the low price is a lie designed to silence any opposition to the deal. You would get a better price selling off spare parts or taking it to the wreckers at the metal junk yard
Yes with "Starlink" they can pilot everything over the world.
There is no longer the problem of link cutting, jamming, ... that there was in the old drone piloting system.
"Starlink" really scares me. I feel like it's "Skynet".
The airframes may be old. But with advanced electronics it'll be a game changer.
You have to be very childish to think that can be true.
Yes, if is PC game.
Tesla owners wondering why they didn't buy Kazakh old jets at $20,000 instead of over priced cars
Putting these dead airframes in working order will cost more than a new aircraft, LMAO. They'll probably crash their pilots during testing
@@wolfswinkel8906 not when u part out others to make 1, Plus Ukraine has crazy amount of parts for those kind of Russian aircraft.
@@1234creviswe're all speculating on what will happen, but you're right. They have plenty of spare parts and knowledge of these planes. It will be interesting to see how they are used.
@@readytodie116 100% and thank u
BULL DROPPINGS.... just look at the China/Russia/Kazakhstan Canal
Or how much Grain is now grown in Kazakhstan, multiple times what they grew last year!
It won't bother Russia if Kazakhstan gets Money from these Out of Date Jets!
Bull droppings lol
Don’t cry bot… soon russian planes will be just practicing targets!… before by payriots, soon by F16!…😂… russian accumulating crapy weapons for 70 years and now on the way to be defeated by the poorest country in europe!…🤡
😂😂@@rexman971
Does you're mother know you are unsupervised on her Pc... !!!
The reason why the USbuy old and obsolete Soviet Jets from the former Soviet republic like Kazazhtan ? In order supply it to Ukraine and because Ukraine are so fmilar operating and flying numbers of these Jets
MiG-29 for 20k??? Kazakhstan should just make an open auction. I know a lot of civilian hobbyists would love to own these. Spareparts not an issue, these people do not care about what they have to pay to get the jets flying again.
Empire's Cheap cost effective gift for it's cannon fodders.
Coffins with wings
Lol
Technology thefts & Analysis of its fighting capabilities measures to counter the direct war conflicts by NATO against Russia on Ukraine
You'll find that should read "...direct war conflicts by ruSSia against Ukraine."
@@johnvannisselroy6197 NATO...THE RACISTS FROM WEST ARE CRYING BECAUSE THEY REALISE THEY ARE WEACK, SUPRAMACISTS BUT WEACK!
@@johnvannisselroy6197 you got mental issues
@@johnvannisselroy6197 Wrong. Direct conflicts of the USA and NATO countries against Russia by the hands of Ukraine
@@johnvannisselroy6197
1990 treaty of NATO vs Russia
No more NATO expansion was broken by whom is the reason for the Ukraine war
Couldn't the US restore them? Possibly modernize them to an extent? It's not like we're unfamiliar with these aircraft.
It always depends on refurbished/new parts available.
NOS (new old stock) was mostly available to former Warsau pact and Soviet weapons customers.
Europes former Warsau pact now NATO countries already sold/donated their former soviet equipment to Ukraine.
My theory is that these airframes have way less flighthours then the jets now used in combat in Ukraine.
Combat flighthours are way more demanding on an airframe then regular peacetime training flighthours.
The worn out Ukraine airframes could be gutted out for parts and be reinstalled in these "younger" Airframes.
Actually there is a different explanation: these aircraft might contain old electronics that will be unaffected by EMP from a nuclear blast. This could mean that US/NATO has already decided to use nukes.
Soviet legacy avionics were designed to withstand to nuclear radiation.
Didn't Kazakhstan denied the selling of it's aircrafts to USA?
While your Abrams can't defeat the shovels, you have to buy shovels to counter shovels.
Yes 31 Abrams can't win over 500 000 shovels.
War, is a money game.
Shovels > Abrams
yes a couple of dozen old model Abrams... if stone age russia had to fight a modern advanced state it would be a massacre. Or imagine if Russia had to fight someone of equal numbers? I don't think so. Good news though due to your catastrophic population imbalance that's not far away.
🤣👍👍👍We in Russia all laugh when reading or listening to foreign media news, the funniest thing is combat shovels))))))
still wont change any situation on the battlefield.
Nope it will only slow Russia's advance they will still win though
@@13ased_American
Define "winning" At worst, Ukraine will fight Russia to a negotiated ceasefire where Russia keeps what it's occupied and Ukraine
has western backed security agreements in place that include NATO membership and hosting NATO troops. No way in hell does
Russia overrun Ukraine, and no way in hell are they going to squeeze Ukraine into turning back into a Russian puppet state.
My sense is that heavy duty and fast and long range drones, is the bottom line use for the fighters. Anti-drone utility also. Maybe bait to draw Russian air assets into traps. Fighters could be used for intermittent ground-attack support of troops on the ground: retreating and moving elsewhere before Russia get's its air-to-air counter into play; hit and run additional troop support artillery.
SU 24 Fencer is a Soviet era Fighterbomber amd swing wing combat aircraft and hiis US counterpart is the F111 Aviidvark
Pretty tough and stable when flying at low-level mode. Especially with heftier external stores.
Easy, they are spare parts for the ones in service in Ukraine to complement the fleet along with F-16. Wars are won with good logistics.
Perfectly good air frames for remote kamikaze drones, good range and high pay loads,
$19,300 is so less. Just the radar itself might cause that much. Regardless if the jets still fly or not, they are worth more than that. Why would Kazakhstan even bother to sell to the West? They know nothing good will come out of it.
Chillax, its free profit. These jets are just going to rot in their storage anyways, i doubt what is essentially spare parts will cost more than even $50,000.
@@Patrr0it3 What are you talking about? Have you ever bought a used car? Kazakhstan can make more money selling to a museum than to the US.
@@darkcloud5830 Yes. A family member owns one for less than $10,000.
1. These jets aren’t just “used” they are *obsolete* and *unusable*, essentially they are useless to operate and own.
2. Military hardware is usually donated to museums.
@@Patrr0it3 Dude, for that price, they can put it in the park and let the kids play with it.
@@darkcloud5830 Your point? These jets are like older than my deceased Grandma.
Well well well. This is a real twist . They could be modernised and put into combat. They could be used for spare parts. They could be used as decoys. They could be used to shot down Russian drones.
Wonder whether they are linked to the purchase of “cheap” Rafael jets. Read that these jets are attracting orders from all of over the world and if Kazakhstan were willing to buy some Rafael jets then it may well be the French would be willing to offer generous terms.
We shall see.
Depriving the enemy of parts? I doubt they are for combat, they are way to old to be useful, but 117 airframes is not an insignificant number of spare parts, better in hands other than Russians.
How is it cost effective to buy busted planes in that region, refurbish and deliver to another country, yet not costeffective to remove functional aircraft and equipment from Afghanistan?
It's like megaman you need the same power as the boss to win
Not true, i had played every megaman game and i was able to beat the boss being under-powered.
Beating the boss that is in every way stronger than Megaman, led me to a very satisfactory win.
They'll make great drones for one way missions.
They forget that Russia s 400 is in wait
500 now isn’t it ?
550 @@healthiswealth6797
Well it has been there long enough even though the oil refinerys are still burning 😂😂
@@worldatpeace8979 😅😆
Dude stop. You always need the chance to talk about these overhyped radars, they’re not that good.
Ukraine are so familar operating and flying numbers of Old Soviet era combat aircraft such as MIG 27 Flogger , MIG29 Fulcrum and SU 24 Fencer fighterbomber and that US have bought from the former Soviet republic like Kazakhtan
I don't get it about MiG-27s...
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pretty regular a British army surplus company sold them Saxon armoured personnel carriers which in the opinion of the retired chief of the British Army were useless in high intensity warfare. He thought selling them to the Ukrainians was just immoral.
They're military planes vever was better Than Russian so if they get them they have to learn a lot of them especially those mig 31 who included in the Pac of Soviet aeroplanes
Buy from us India we have plenty of old soviet era jet fighters
The price is negotiable but not rock bottom since we have upgraded the system using our up to date Hanuman algorithms
Scrap metal
if were fixing them they will be a better safer plane they probably were requested by them
This could be part of the US supplememtal aid in which US Congress have passed worth $ 61 Billion to Ukraine and the US have purchase combat aircraft from the Former Soviet era like Kazakhtan worth $ 2.25 million and $ 19 ,300 million each combat aircraft
Interesting
Where and in which combat "excelled" MIG29? Imagination of author?
Either way, it's less spare parts for katsaps.
So Russia cant get their hands on them for spare parts.
Answer is no.
Desperate situations comes desperate measures, as to its success is up to be seen. Reversed engineered American captured javelins will make it hard for them i think.
Buying these old Soviet-era fighter aircraft also denies them to the Russians as they could buy them and send them back to their factories to be rebuilt.
They would be useful as UAVs
Because they are better than western ones 😂😂😂😂
Sure 🤡… that is the reason!…😂 … 30 years older tech then any F16 version!…🤡
@@oldowleye3161 Apparently, the West is losing and wants to find out why they are losing.
Huh? Hundreds of these “supposedly better” soviet jets were shot down in air-to-air battles. Want me to lost a few examples?
mig 29 better 😂😂.then y Ukraine request F16?
@@Ukraine_827 because ur pilot sux
They are for decoys
Those are some really expensive decoys for $2.3m 😂😂😂😂😂
@@wolfswinkel8906 Not if the missiles are a multiple of that price xD
@@whodaFru4551 interesting.. so these aircraft aren't gonna fly after prohibitively expensive maintenance costs on the "unusable" airframe (according to the video), right? So, if they're gonna be sitting on the ground as decoys, what makes you think the Russians won't use a cheap lancet on them like all the others? 🤣
@@wolfswinkel8906About $20.000 each. These planes are in unusable condition.
He better be more worried about his much touted MBT Abrams tanka, sending it shemelessly for rear duties for one, being destroyed along the front lines & displayed in Russia as war trophies,
"Kazakhstan, greatest country in the world"
This is desperation now
This old domentico has lost his mind..
So many people around the world has died because of him
@@drsmmalik7049 Why not refer the patient to a psychiatric hospital? Wisdom comes with age, sometimes age comes alone. That's the old man.Peace, everyone.
@@user-ow7xc7fx9j hospital is for patients.
.biden is a criminal.
he should be send to jail
no, its cheap spare parts. Kinda different.
From manufacturing costly weapons to buying weapons at a cheap cost, that's a good transition US.😂👍
Bad news for Russia 😮😢😢😢
how do you stop russia from buying them? you just buy before them.
Spare parts and decoys for Ukraine and also stops Russia from using them for the same. US purchases lots of equipment to stop other countries from getting their hands on it.
Unlike Americas latest and greatest these old girls can actually get of the ground and aren't broken down most of the time.
Maybe from India ,too ?
Kazakhstan is an example of Russia's general economic shift to Asian markets and too few western analysts grasp how long this has been the case. Russia's total area is mostly Asian and when Yeltsin handed over to Putin the latter revived the practice of surprise visits to factories, companies, regional administrations and records of courts, requiring that judiciary officials spoke for themselves.
Just because Yeltsin remains a controversial figure, largely recalled for being drunk or seemingly drunk (he had neurological and heart problems throughout his life) we should not overlook the tasks he was faced with after Gorbachev's economic experiments and fondness for getting headlines in the west caused major recessions in different parts of Russia and how, despite crippling illness, he put a lot of faith in younger administrators and accords made predominantly with B Clinton and A Juppé.
Putin and regional teams took the theme of generally increased activity and regional governance being a main solution to border flare ups and dangers of further economic vulnerability.
In the wake of two Chechen civil wars which had been clumsily handled by Moscow, the still young Putin listened economists, military men, experts in industrial requirements and was less trusting of NATO and the west than Yeltsin had been.
By developing the chernozem belt in Kazakhstan to achieve yields similar to Russia's then accepting Turkish proposals to lay oil pipelines to Kazakhstan (co-financed), the region became prosperous and the Turkish contracts for oil guaranteed reaching into the future settled the Caucasus as well as could be dreamed of.
Obviously, the mainstream expansion of raw materials, staples (not least water) and very low cost energy to China coinciding with east and south Asian quite rapid development allowed the Uralian Yeltsin ideas for 'interior' development to accelerate and Russian trade interest in the west were less relevant that we westerners like to think.
BECAUSE the USSR had been replaced by the CIS and Russia itself became more coherent as a collection of cultures, languages, traditions and self-governance under the main Duma and not a Supreme Soviet, the whole region developed steadily with the benefit of additions to the BAM rail network of Brezhnev's times as well as major attention to the TS Railway. CIS members which had been known for factional conflicts were permitted to develop branches to this gigantic pair of arteries and cross-arteries from the Black Sea to the Pacific and they could muster credit for such building from more or less anywhere subject to CIS vetting.
Kazakhstan sometimes squabbles with Moscow but this is usual among trading partners and an Asian trait. European Russia (the western admin branch of the Russian Federation) does not own CIS member states and has sometimes levied a bill if its military is called upon, an in Kazakhstan a few years ago. Military policing is a commodity.
The possible sale of old Soviet jets to Biden is not outlandish and other post-Soviet states have sold to small and large countries for a variety of reasons. The USA and NASA have quite a collection already -- but of course there are no OEM spares available. Ukraine has lost most of its SU-24s and Migs and only the former can carry SCALP/SS cruise missiles The much talked about F-16 (except the Turkish rebuild version which will be kept by Ankara pending their new BAE partner jet being available) would struggle with the weight of cruise missiles and their limited range would further compromise the nimble flying for which they were designed, so maybe Biden's minders think SU-24s with GE or PW engines would help to prolong the conflict and feed the USA's disgusting and over-powerful weapons industries.
Conversions of Soviet planes has been achieved for 'war games' over decades.
Note that the story about the US buying Kazakh stocks came from the Kiev News -- not the most reliable source of veracity.........................
Is that why Gazprom has taken a record loss in 2023? Cause they already shifted markets?
Kazakhstan Should be very careful, like the old saying "be very careful of where you tie up your horse" They should tie up with the winner, not the loser.
They Know Ukraine will win......
lol @@ that is exactly what they did sold the planes to the winner Ukraine/USA @@ the Nazis are going to lose big time it is doomed by god @@
@@albertf.2639🇺🇸😎🇺🇦
@@robertscott961no chance
then they already chose correctly as it is obvious Ukraine wins when russia collapses....
Because they know that they are best in naughtyamerica, not in warfare or technology.
Titanium
What new jets Kazakhstan will buy?
Video did not say anything about it 🤔
@@riverside6836honestly, not sure. Maybe we will buy jets from China they have a lot of them, or maybe we will get some from Turkey
When you're lack of weapons and soviet high technology is better than yours 😂😂😂😂😂
The don’t have the tools or trained mechanics to service American aircraft
India should sell its mig21
One way drones
Drones they will turn them into drones cheap ones . But that makes some sense so it can not be the reason.
Kazakhstan, number one exporter of potassium, all other countries have inferior potassium.
😵😵😵😵😵 i'm speechless
BIDEN WILL SAY WHEN F-16 GET SHOT ITS THE OLD SOVIET JET, NOT AMERICAN😂😂😂😂
Icecream man ran out of office soon, he will run out of fun,
And Xi Jinping declared that he "fully supports Kazakhstan's integrity and sovereignty". So little Vladimir can't upset his big boss Xi et won't do anything.
Russian influence will decline inexorably, as predicted by India's Anil Chauhan.
So many prophets… so little prophecies makes it to reality. 😂
Kazakhstan is asking Russia to invade them if they are leaning towards the West because that is the reason that they invaded Ukraine. They did not want any Western troops next door.
These jets are so cheap that NATO is going to use them to waste Russian S-300 and S-400 missiles.
I highly doubt these can be made air worthy.
Act of Desperation
Pfffttttt🤣please
Ukraine pilot train to fly russian obsolete jet. Ukraine pilot is more familiar to fly Soviet era jets than flying Western jet. Thats a fact base on pilot doing training with Western jets.
One word: Titanium. Ex-Soviet aircraft contain lots of titanium, a rare metal valued for its strength, light weight and resistance to heat that is difficult to come by in the West but obtainable in Russia. The air frames that aren't usable can simply be scrapped for the Titanium which can be used in new U.S. aircraft construction. Ironic.
Titanium isn't rare, it is ninth most abundant element in the Earth's crust. And even Ukraine, despite the war, is still amongst the biggest miners of titanium ore and producers of metallic titanium. That vastly exceeds the amount of metal you can scrap from planes.
Buying old jets spend that money on America and the peaples.
peaples be starving lol
It's possible to do more than one thing at the same time. At least in America that is. Besides the Republican Party used to be the people who loved
military spending yet pulled their hair out over how funding a school lunch program leads to dependency.
Are u not giving Ukraine the F16 jets
Looks like Babylon went on a shopping spree for planes to donate to the Philippines, the Asian Ukraine. 🤣🤣🤣
No freaking way we would accept those dinosaurs
We Filipinos Loves those Toys🤣🤣
US so smart. Ivan will just hit old scrap with its expensive missiles
Not so smart, Ukraine has lost the battle
In Europe: U.S, raise partridges to defeat ice bears.
In Middle East: America, educate rainbow-loving camels to fight with vicious male camels from the desert.
In Asia: U.S, breeds orangutans to defeat Asian Tigers.
WeeEeEeDddD is Great🎉🎉🎉🎉
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Because, soviet best weapons and vehicles. USA love Soviet
Numbers of these MIG-27 Soviet era Combat aircraft have been shoot down by the Afghan Mujaheeedin fighter during Soviet invasion of Afghanistan
MiGs were never shot down by the Mujahadin.
LOL..maybe the Americans fear the F16s reputation will be damaged in Ukraine war..their costly Abram USD 10 million tank can be easily destroyed by a cheap clone...if reputation damaged, no one will want to buy F16s already.
Kazakhstan is afraid to be the next to be invaded by Russia.
Kazakhstan 🇰🇿 🤝 Turkey 🇹🇷 Brother 💪
they were purchased so Russia doesn't buy them...lol!
20k$for a plsne😂
US engineers want to know the secret of how to make fighter using only washing machine metal and electronic
Do they get the Soviet era piolets to go with the Jets. Or maybe Duffer Joe can fly one on a one way mission 😂
😂😂😂Try Cashing the Check😂😂😂USA has No $$$😂😂😂
This is called, being wise with resources! Whether it’s parts or them upgrading these, I’m sure people will hate on it, cause critics hate on everything, but that’s cause they’re ignorant! In case they forget we’re in debt trillions, and we just got planes that can aid in the war. Oh u want us to only use b2 stealths, f22s and recon solely with don of blackbird or whatever there using, blue tacit whatever, yea those are literally amazing planes, but we won wars being economically smart combination of efficiency and innovation, going back to this is smart, good job, great idea ! The people hating, try getting shot by an obsolete Springfield 1917 in Afghanistan, scope mounted it has a better range than some current sniper weapons, and the Israelis used modified Sherman tanks to destroy half the damn invading force in 1970s, so go ahead keep hating, a 10 dollar mortar takes out million dollar equipment daily!
Russia to Kazakhatan is no longer part of the Soviet Republic and so Kazakhtan is already independent and sovireign state and so Kazakhtan wants to have warm relationship with the West and even daw Kazakhtan is member of the Collective Security Treaty Organization or CSTO his counterpart NATO of the West
Every body is passing their crap onto Ukrainian paupers
How sad that Ukrainian pilots must sacrifice their talents on a hopeless war and die in these ancient machines just so Loser joe can say he is a capable commander in chief when we all know he is only a memory care patient.
Kazakhstan is tired of being poor and stuck in a loop of endless nothingness with Russia with no innovation or culture and social development
Huh, you know that Ukraine is way poorer than Kazakhstan? And it was poorer even before the war.
@@maxh7637 yeah, now it wants to move towards a better future where Russia isn’t keeping it poor
They sell all there airforce to ukrain for 2m$😂
5:23 China will never allow neofascist RuZZia to step into Kazakhstan. 😂
they are better from f16 and usa wants to copy them
Spare parts and decoys.....great deal and protects ukraines fighters!
Russian military power is intended to support a year of full conventional war against ALL NATO, so Ucrania had yet lost war,is a question of elemental mathematics
No it is not xD
@@giuseppeanoardi3973 yes, is yes..%)
@@josesierraromero8316 cope
@@giuseppeanoardi3973 phentanyl is dangerous man.