How Russia built a stealth jet to beat the west - Su-57
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So stealthy, it has never been seen in actual combat
It’s been used, and has been the suspect for shootings down many SU24 recently, these are the only plane that can carry the shadow strike cruise missiles.
What ever plane shooting this down, it hasn’t been detected yet
Actually he was used on Kiev attacks a couple times . Even in few Ukrainian Telegram videos show a noice of his engines and were recorded by regular people. They don't sound like standard russian engines at all. It has a more high pitch . Now this is something I heard personally at videos at same night Russians said they use it.
I believe a few fired off some missiles well at a safe distance. It was far enough away from the front so that it would be almost impossible to shoot them down. So as far as we know they may have just been used as flying missile trucks.
It's not even categorized as a stealth fighter, only the media calls it that. I think NATO would categorize it as a reduced visibility fighter.
And it's still made with the Soviet cold war (and US fighter mafia) doctrine. Optimised for dogfighting over bvr.
Everyone else had realised by the 70s that dogfights were on the way out, and long range missiles were the future.
Russia has caught up with their missile tech, but their planes are all obsolete. If they ever get rid of their cleptocrats, they're going to have to start from scratch and play catch up.
@@aleksandarjevremovic1028 But it is a standard Russian engine that is being used on other Russian aircraft. The engine that it is supposed to have has not yet been developed and deployed. So I seriously doubt the stories.
Also, Ukraine has proven pretty good at shooting down every other type of aircraft that Russia has used over Ukraine (or very near to Ukraine). I don't believe the Russian Military would use the SU-57 in Ukraine as it would be a total PR disaster if Ukraine shoots one down (not to mention the loss of intelligence on the aircraft and it's electronics from the recovered wreckage which would soon be in US hands).
"The famous forward swept wing design we all flew in Ace Combat" that one line made my day. Thank you for the memories 😂👍
Спроси у украинцев сколько раз су57 их обстреливал !
Hmm i smell Belkan Air Force dominate
to think about it, i think i use the ADFX-01 way too much...
@@namenotfound614 >
@@biwarayoganata me when the snow starts falling
The SU-57 gets an A+ for design aesthetics. It's just beautiful.
And a F- in performance
@austinteal3645
Fly against it. Prove it. Otherwise I do not believe in western wunderwaffels, like the indestructible Challenger 2 or Mega-Leopards.
@@austinteal3645bruh
@@hercegovac9999 w pfp
Except for those giant engine nozzles sticking out the back giving a great radar return and lighting up every IR scope that is not directly in front of them. The F-35 has one of those and that's bad enough let alone two of them. The Raptor on the other hand has two extremely powerful engines with hidden square exhaust ports that at least minimizes radar return.
I came here for the comments. It's astounding to see the number of aerospace engineers and material scientists here discussing and comparing, from design to functionality to application and lethality.
Remarkably many people don’t feel the need to appeal to a higher authority when they can use their own intellect, ability to research and critical thinking to be able to arrive at sound conclusions.
True...
acquired from CNN LOL
@@mynameisnobody211Most people understand just how little they know about this.
Haha my man i love the sarcasm.. “ yeah that radar cross section is the size of my balls”!😂😂
Design-wise, this has always been one of my favorite planes. This plane, along with the YF-23, prove to me that beauty and lethality are not mutually exclusive.
When function and form go hand in hand
Well the SU-57 lacks lethality because you know, it's the size of a city block.
The F22 is way prettier. And, ya know, it’s actually stealthy and lethal, so…and save your “balloon killer” comeback please.
It doesn't matter if you built the least stealthy, stealth figher ever, all that matters is that it looks cool as hell.
People in the West will be scared of it! 😂😂😂
And the US Congress will pour even more tax dollars into the MIC! LMAO 🤣🤣🤣
It is a beautiful plane, but it’s a bunch of BS. It has nothing on Western stealth tech.
As awesome as the su-57 is on paper, the superiority question can be summed up with this..
"Would you intercept me?
I'd intercept me."
Ah, a fellow Habitual Linecrosser enjoyer
One day, hopefully the kid will get his chance.
Hellow fellow linecrosser. 😂
Lol it says translate to English @@someopinionateddirt6561
Nice reference
I know it's not for aesthetics, but the mismatched panel colors on the Su-57 look awesome.
I saw the Su 57 recently got an engine upgrade, my impression with this plane is a couple of things.
A) they weren't trying to make a direct counterpart to the F22, Russia prefers a workhorse to a racehorse usually.
B) It's a paradigm shift and is a learning project which is slowly being modified and refined as money allows. It's like the shift to windows xp, there were a lot of problems due to 64 bit never being used before. I assume this because the successor to the Su 57 is already in development and pre-production.
It's a really beautiful airplane in any case
a clever comment indeed
Warhorse
You right
but on the contrary US built the racehorse for war applications which is biting their own back,
like the operations cost for F22 and F35 which led to the discontinuation of F22 production because the US coudn't bear the cost of operating both the aircraft at the same time,
moreover they've built an aircraft which they thought it would solve the problem but on the way they've created more problems for their own mainly for maintaining and operating cost for both of the planes,
That's why US is considering to upgrade the Bloc levels of F16 as mainly the F16 serves more purpose than those of what F35 does maybe rather more efficiently, that's why they've proposed to update F16 for future warfare,
moreover just to save cost and maybe more frugal for the airforce even Russian's are also considering to operate single engine aircraft for future applications,
like SU75 checkmate,
So there is an overall shift in airforce around the world to use more single engine craft for their workhorse purpose overall,
since US is also instead of investing more in F35 for future warfare they're trying to shift all the future upgrades to the new F16 programs overall,
What successor? Is there any info on it?
Drone "wingmen" seem like a fantastic force-multiplier. You can increase the weapon load and data gathering capabilities of crewed warplanes whire minimizing the number of soldiers praced in a dangerous situation. It combines the advantages of drone aircraft while eliminating most of their disadvantages.
They can barely build the drones they bought from Iran
@@thadiusbarnelsnatch3665 I'm only discussing the merits of the concept, not Russia's ability to execute on it.
@@pseudotasuki ok well in that I can agree, you may not have known that one of the upcoming f-35 upgrade packages includes drone wingmen
@@thadiusbarnelsnatch3665 Indeed! Hopefully it'll go better than the Russian counterparts.
@@pseudotasuki I’m hearing that we’ll have real concrete info on it within the year
[meanwhile in the distant future]
‘Let’s talk about the stealth fighter that never was…’
Problably
ouf that hurts XD... but i can't disagree
Coming tomorrow,
Russia 101: Can't do shit, talk shit. See SU-75 Femboi
@@meteorknight999 Its not about ego, its about facts, but hey man, keep beating your chest about a plane that doesn't really exist.
Man, your animations just keep getting better and better. Gorgeous work.
My theory is that after India 'dropped out' of the programme, the Russians no longer wanted a full-fledged stealth fighter. They don't even apply the most basic criteria for stealth (rivet concealment, serpentine air intake design, serrated edges, metal-less canopy, etc). These are well known necessities for effective stealth, there is no way the Russians don't know this (all the more so because they clearly use them on their stealth drone). They simply don't need a Russian F22. Nevertheless, I think it is a beautiful aircraft, I am very sorry that we will never see one of these here in the middle of Europe on a peaceful airshow.
Theorizing is not for you.
Look at high resolution images of serial production Su-57.
And YES! India wrenched Russian timelines for Su-57, but it didn’t stop them. Now! They are begging again to purchase the plane.
@@jakovskaro8224 Maybe theorizing is not for me, but wishful thinking is certainly for you. India is begging so much that they are purchasing French Rafale instead. I also looked at high resolution photos, and i can still see through the air intakes, so I don't understand what you are trying to say. The Su-57 is a beautiful plane, but Sukhoi itself claims a radar cross section of 1-0.01 m2. I assume they know for sure what their aircraft is capable of. American planes can do what? A 100 times less? Unfortunately. I'm rooting for the Russians, I wish America had a good big strong counterforce, but unfortunately this plane falls short compared to the western ones.
@@erikpeterffy7552 well! I stay by my initial assessment. You know very little
@@jakovskaro8224 well India isn't begging again they already signed for su 57 when it gets completed, the matter of fact is USA flew their F35 , FA18 And 21 in aero India airshow FOR SALE purpose and they ended up with Rafael as France offered better weapon system than FA 18 and Rafael performed better at high altitude in Himalayan mountains just to let you know that war scenario is totally different in specific Himalayan mountains atmosphere and plain desert like middle east and we already have fought and won a war at that altitude without machines , and about f35 (We dropped the idea of f35 after south Korea half of f35 fleet was not able to fly due to high maintenance failure issues which i am not sure why everyone in west is trying to ignore about)our choice was su 57 because we needed a solid aircraft not a sophisticated one reason even the more water exposure can damage a beautiful aircraft like raptor and 35. Just some spoiler (India operates S400 RUSSIAN and even after that USA wants to have f35 stationed on our Himalayan air strips that thing is itself is sus , cuz last time a NATO country imported Russian s300 it was excluded out of F35 programmed. USA in every 6 months comes to train with us at that high altitude warzone every wondered ? the only aircraft f-15 of US was able to be on par with mig29 in those mountains cuz at that area its the game of altitude. There's a lot going on with f35's recently (only the countries with US influence buy those and their maintenance record is 100% Sussy). Su 57 is also no good but at the moment the only so called 5th generation aircraft who have faced a engagement and war is su 57 pinning down a Ukrainian su 27. (summary is stop shitting and start appreciating) cuz every place is not middle east , Stealth is not something that's a priority in harsh conditions like Indian Warzones here the humans and the reliable machines work.(if you think US machines are reliable bro trust me you are either blind or dumb cuz we operate 7-8 different style of fighters according to the requirements and none of them is US made cuz it was never able to stand the conditions).
@@jakovskaro8224 ohh and if you think i am shitting on any of the aircraft then you are wrong , every Aircraft has its purpose to serve and its made with keeping the condition of place it would serve. We have mirage for bombings , rafael for air superiority, mig 29 for aircraft carrier and high altitude and lastly Sukhoi SU 30 mki that beautiful flanker is the most advance flanker of SU 30 model cuz it only Russian by airframe whole DNA of that plane is rebuilt. (We Indians are little bit bias towards our friend Russia cuz he was the one who was supporting our back and scared the US 7th fleet away with their Nuclear submarine fleet ) And we have tested Russian weapons they are definitely trust worthy. Lastly as in war there is no use of advance weapons if you cant use them because the the country making them censor you lol avg US game. "US might be better But Russia is the one whom you can trust that will not sabotage"
Putin: "I haven't seen our stealth plane in combat over Ukraine."
Sukhoi: "Thank you, sir!"
Same principle why Red Navy goes with the All submarine force? ;)
because they don't fucking fly it in combat!
@@Thornbloom nuh uh
@@JS-bk7bt yuh uh lmao, the su-57 is in the same boat as the t-14.
@@Ripa-Moramee nuh uh the su57 flew in the air battle of my toes hurt
If only it performed as good as it looks.
Military aviation expert over here with all the facts and completely proven claims! Geez
you’re,so right it’s a beauty..i just don’t believe in it’s performance capability
It doesn't matter if you built the least stealthy, stealth figher ever, all that matters is that it looks cool as hell.
People in the West will be scared of it! 😂😂😂
And the US Congress will pour even more tax dollars into the MIC! LMAO 🤣🤣🤣
@@jevongraham5223 Those big honkin exhaust pipes sticking out the back is a pretty good clue as to its stealthiness it would be toast before it even got into visual range of an F22 or F35 but i must admit it does look kinda cool.
@@bobdillon1138 Yeah I got bored one day and read up about jets again. The exhaust looks archaic, cant hide from the radar with those rounded bazookas.
1 key similarity between the Su-57 Felon and the F-14A Tomcat: the airframe being ready before the engine intended for it.
Grumman was contractually obligated to use the Pratt&Whitney TF30, so the original plan was just to use it for the first batch of aircraft so as to get the aircraft into service with minimal delay, and then produce the F-14B with a new engine as the main production version, and an eventual follow-on upgrade of the avionics known as the F-14C. The new engine was made from the Advanced Technology Engine, which produced the Pratt&Whitney F100 and F401; the F401 had a slightly larger bypass ratio and was intended for the F-14B. Unfortunately, the F-14's greatest enemy, Congress, succeeded in killing the F401 program, and the Tomcat had to soldier on with the TF30s until 1987.
FAE: "Don't skip this part"
Me: *immediately skips ahead 20 sec*
I don’t care what people say. Not taking into account capabilities and country of origin. It’s definitely a beautiful looking aircraft.
For sure
Def cooler then the f22.
take account of numbers built and well, it's embarrassing
@@gerardw.7468 since you brought that up, take into account the president of the US which is way more embarrassing
@@son9012atleast our president doesn’t need a body double or a bunker to hide out in
Oh boy, certainly a title
Yep. Gotta get people so mad they click unfortunately
@@FoundAndExplainedwell played I came to flame you but now I applaud you.
@@FoundAndExplained no issues, the algorithm is king, have to please the red triangle overlords with clicks or lose it all
@@FoundAndExplained pretty based
@@FoundAndExplained you gonna do the mbb lampyridae
Its absolutely stunning looking, it really is one of the prettiest planes out there.
The SU-57 is a very beautiful aircraft!
I noticed you didn't explain that although the su57 has infrared it only has it facing forwards. Whereas the F35 has 360 thermal detection capabilities meaning it can target crafts behind it. Those sidewinder 9x's are insane :~)
You forgot the best part about the Su-57's infrared sensor: it's not coated, which means using it makes it substantially more detectable on radar lol
@@gigacream5830 "It's insane how it is capable of basically being dumped from the mount, and INSTANTLY flip a 180 and fly the complete opposite direction..."
Mmmhhmm, and do you know where the idea for that came from?
Soviet missiles.
@@gigacream5830 "Idk where tf you got that idea from"
Maybe you should read up better on reality then.
The R-73 together with HMD has that ability, though with reduced hitrate.
There's even videos online showing it.
The export model of the missile AND the HMD does NOT have the ability.
@@thundercactusIR sensor can be turned around with the sensor's back facing forwards when not used to increase stealth
@@RCLepcha I know. But it can't be USED without compromising stealth, unlike the F35's various targeting sensors that don't compromise stealth at all when in use.
I'll reevaluate my opinions about the Su-57 if India or any other Russian allies actually buy some. The "problematic" F-35 keeps getting new orders and deliveries, so it's difficult to compare.
So maybe it's not so problematic after all? Maybe there's something fishy when the "Failure" F-35 has sold 1000 planes the Sukhoi hasn't been seen in combat in over 3 years of actual war
When people say it's "problematic" or "buggy", they just do not understand the problems with being cutting edge - or the fact that problems can be resolved.
The Gripen is easy to maintain because they are optimizing older, very well understood technology. The F-35 and the F-22 are the cutting edge and the first of their kind. Novel issues will arise, period. And nobody else will have solved them.
But the do get solved. In the time Russia has built 12 SU-57s, the F-35 has already upgraded it's capabilities several times too. By the time the SU-57 is optimistically in full production, the 6th Gens will be rolling out.
@@recoil53 It was more than this - Russian boasting is not just boasting, they are trying to compete in the arms market. So with their highly motivated and huge (but surprisingly inefficient) fake news industry, a lot of the ‘problems’ with the F-35 are politically motivated. Add in conspiracy theorists in the west and the ‘reformers’ like Pierre Spray (RIP) a lot of noise was made about the F-35 that wasn’t really honest. The Indians have been badly burned by their crush on all things Russian military, which is why they dropped out of paying for the Felon.
I’m no fighter pilot but when I see multiple interviews of pilots who have flown the teen series for years and some of them even moved to the F-35 saying that they’d rather be in the F-35 than any other plane, I believe them. Many are now retired and have no fish to fry pushing the F-35 and are hugely nostalgic for the planes they flew but all say the F-35 is near perfect for its role. Also, that the Russians are developing something to match Link-16, a 30-40 year old NATO technology should tell you everything. Modern conflict benefits from the same stuff that has benefited industry and communications over the last generation. Networking is a huge force multiplier - it doesn’t matter how agile a plane is if it’s facing adversaries with situational awareness light years ahead of them. Russians are dangerous, but mostly because they don’t value human life. Even their own. But we have all come to see that their high tech is not particularly high, is stolen or relies entirely on components bought from their ‘enemies’.
Experience has also shown that American systems are better than published specs but Russian ones are often considerably worse. They just lie. It’s a matter of time before it all comes crashing down. The sooner the better.
@@julianmorrisco America only attacks small third world countries.
The last time America attacked a country with a strong air defense was during the Vietnam War. In Vietnam, America lost thousands of airplanes and helicopters.
@@slawawacker Yeah. In 12 years, 60 years ago. You lot are doing your best to top that in 5, today!
Just was waiting for this one thx bro
Тут приведено много объяснений, но в целом Су-57 имеет свою концепцию. Нюанс этот просто объяснить. Если F-22 и F-35 это оружие агрессии, вторжения во вражеское воздушное пространство с привлечением AWACS. То Су-57 это оружие защиты или полузащиты. Вместительные внутренние отсеки позволяют возить больше ракет, более дальнобойных или ударного оружия. Дополнительные радары в крыле и фюзеляже позволяют легче обнаруживать F-22 и F-35 и в большем угле, таким образом не позволив взять себя в тактическое окружение. Двигатели без защитных кожухов, но как и в F-35 это не так существенно, если действовать на расстоянии. Двигатели Ал-41 отличные, хотя и не позволяют вести длительный крейсерских сверхзвуковой полет, но как мы видим на примере с F-35 там вообще им пользоваться ограничили с целью сбережения драгоценного покрытия. Фюзеляж имеет многослойные композиты и не требуют дорого обслуживания и оберегания поверхности как на F-22 и F-35. Также заявлена достаточно низкая цена за экземпляр и стоимость наземного обслуживания. Остался один вопрос - почему так мало заказали? Вопрос больше про деньги, все-таки строить 2000 самолетов как F-35 в России и не планировали. Для собственных ВВС нужно порядка 200-300 Су-57 плюс примерно 200-300 ударных истребителей Су-35 и Су-30, плюс 200 Су-34. С земли их прикроют мощные системы С-300/400/500 которые способны держать AWACS на расстояниях 300-500км.
В целом же концепция Су-57 гораздо более универсальная и удачная, а цена постройки и эксплуатации останется скорее в диапазоне как у Су-35 или F-15.
Также замечу что разработка F-22 с первого полета до серийного производства тоже шло с 1990-2003 (13 лет), а F-35 разрабатывался с 2000-2015 (15 лет). Су-57 имеет срок с 2010-2020 (10 лет). Да, производство Су-57 изначально мелкосерийное, но в СССР серийно даже Су-27 и МиГ-29 не строили такими же сериями как F-16 или F-15. В итоге у ВВС России к 2030 году будет примерно 50% - 100 самолетов и к 2035 году - 200 самолетов, + 600 Су-35/30/34.
There are many explanations given here, but in general the Su-57 has its own concept. This nuance is easy to explain. If the F-22 and F-35 are weapons of aggression, incursions into enemy airspace involving AWACS. The Su-57 is a defensive or midfield weapon. Roomy internal compartments allow you to carry more missiles, longer-range or strike weapons. Additional radars in the wing and fuselage make it easier to detect the F-22 and F-35 at a higher angle, thus not allowing themselves to be taken into a tactical environment. The engines do not have protective covers, but as in the F-35, this is not so significant if you act from a distance. The Al-41 engines are excellent, although they do not allow for long-term supersonic cruising flight, but as we can see from the example of the F-35, they generally limited their use in order to save precious coverage. The fuselage has multilayer composites and does not require expensive maintenance and surface protection as on the F-22 and F-35. A fairly low price per copy and the cost of ground handling are also stated. One question remains - why did you order so little? The question is more about money, after all, they did not plan to build 2,000 aircraft like the F-35 in Russia. For its own Air Force, about 200-300 Su-57s are needed, plus about 200-300 Su-35 and Su-30 strike fighters, plus 200 Su-34s. From the ground, they will be covered by powerful S-300/400/500 systems that are capable of holding AWACS at distances of 300-500km.
In general, the Su-57 concept is much more versatile and successful, and the price of construction and operation will remain rather in the range of the Su-35 or F-15.
I also note that the development of the F-22 from the first flight to mass production also took place from 1990-2003 (13 years), and the F-35 was developed from 2000-2015 (15 years). The Su-57 has a period from 2010-2020 (10 years). Yes, the production of the Su-57 was initially small-scale, but in the USSR, even the Su-27 and MiG-29 were not mass-produced in the same series as the F-16 or F-15. As a result, the Russian Air Force will have about 50% - 100 aircraft by 2030 and 200 aircraft by 2035, + 600 Su-35/30/34.
Russia has stated that the SU-57 was based on f-22A. The USA has test flown(or at least the technologies) of the Replacement called NGAD in 2019. I suspect a low rate production is underway. By the time the SU-57 is on a "somewhat" comparable level to the raptor. The raptor will be retired. Note the F-22 has and is still receiving upgrades. Basically to fund a f-35A stuffed inside. The patriot missle system is more advanced and higher kill ratio than and S-series radar missle systems.
@@JeremiahAnunnaki The Su-57 was made with an eye to the F-22, but using a different technology. If the F-22 and F-35 have a mostly metal fuselage and are covered with special and very capricious coatings on top, then the main part of the Su-57 airframe is saddled using multilayer composite technology, which, thanks to the combination of layers, effectively dissipate radio waves. Plus, side radars and radars in the wings are used, which allow detecting targets in a wide range of heading angles, plus radars of another range, which are easier to detect a stealth fighter. As for production, the Su-57 is launched on the market in about the same time frame of 15 years as the F-22 and F-35. Plus, in the USSR and Russia there is a slightly different approach to procurement and production - if in the USA it is large-scale production of a large batch, then here it is small-scale production, which allows you to reduce the price by maintaining a large assembly line, but at the same time get more expensive components. As for the missiles for the S-300 and S-400 complexes, in the last decade there have also been versions of missiles with active homing heads. So both systems, like the future S-500, will be able to work with both types of missiles.
My congratulations to Sukhoi for designing a formidable answer to the F-4
F-4 was the best US fighter ever same jet in AF and Navy. And a majestic war record. Today US use kinda 5 different fighters for roles F-4 did alone.
Mig21 solo
bud those 5 all do those roles way beter@@aleksandarjevremovic1028
...not the f4@@lukaswot6851
Mig-21 was designed by Mikoyan-Gurevich… not Sukhoi. Furthermore… what does that even have to do with the SU-57?
I gotta say those 3D models and animations are just top notch man, love your videos keep it up!!
Video games. 😂
0:56
That is a video game?? What's the name of the game then?
Another great video 📹. No geopolitics in this channel, just technology. I have no doubt that Russia will improve the SU57 even more and order more after 76 delivery
Maybe they would if they weren't broke.
Have to comment, because I really like the fact that you've taken the time to provide us with a balanced take on the aircraft, one that tries to thread the middel ground between the two different sides of argument about the Felon, which have both been largely polarized by propaganda.
Stealthy or not but it sure is one of the most beautiful plane ever built
Russian, just know how to build beautiful planes
It can beat a f22 because the f22 wont want to shoot it down because it looks fire as hell
agreed. the russian design philosophy makes me think of a ballerina with an AKS, they look great, even sexy, but also rugged and deadly
Lmao yes…building things that look like they were born with fetal alcohol syndrome is beautiful, especially when the engines protrude so much and are so far apart it looks like it rides the special bus
Behold... Salty yankees incoming lol supper funny that they cannot stand other countries making something that looks cooler
USA: * builds something cool*
Russia: * build something cool to compete*
China: can I copy yo homework?
You're so close. Russia's best planes would get curb stomped by the stuff the US made in the 1980s.
*USA: builds something cool
China: builds something to compete
Russia: can’t actually build anything
@@team3am149 u accidentally put Russia instead of India blud 🗿
😂😂😂
@@walker2345😂
"don't skip this part"
Me: immediately skips
"It might not be as stealthy as we hoped..."
"Put a cool, stealthy paint scheme on it. Job done."
"Which was aimed at a high performance aircraft with some degree of radar cross-section minimization"
like the F/A-18, or Eurofighter Typhoon. Both which have RCSs close or under 1m^2.
It's a gen 4.5 fighter struggling into production when gen 6 fighters are already cooking on the other side of the pond
The SU-57 is 10 feet longer AND wider than both of those fighters, and carries a full weapon loadout internally.
@@jordanp4987 and?
@@AugmentedGravity and no one of mentioned above fly without huge tanks and other external load. Their real rcs is huge like a house
@@serheyyavotsky1246By the time the enemy sees the F-35 dressed for long range strike operations, they've already been fired on by the ones in full stealth mode.
The SU-57 Femboy can't jettison its engines nor the woodscrews holding its 4th gen corpse together which will light it up like a Christmas tree on advanced radar systems
thing is in the f35 and f22 the paint itself is a ram. which is why they are both shiny and camouflages are really hard to make on them. paint covers the vast majority of the plane and the canopy itself has ram as far as i know too or at least doesnt let waves inside. another thing that isnt taken into account is the panel gaps and panel shapes for the planes there are almos no right anglesi n any of the panels of the f22 and f35 . su57 has square riveted panels all over the fuselage which work like retroreflectors to radar waves
The US is on the verge of bankruptcy or at least interest rates going much higher and into double digits, the US borrowed a lot of money to make that technology and pretty much only used it to destroy Iraq and a few other places. If you think inflation is over then you are deluded unless they cut spending and that will cause a lot of problems with your military spending.
Sounds like something someone who's never seen the production version would say
@@alexdunphy3716 second series production version still uses square panels and still doesnt have ram paint
@@Estuardomendez13 how do you know it doesnt have ram paint. it clearly is painted
everywhere the same copy and pasted arguments. westoids are all npcs unable to think for themselves.
f-22 has riveted panels all over fuselage as well. y'all can literally check the photos
They already addressed the inlets and the compressor blades cross section. Just doing it a little different from the West but with the same results. Also the upgraded engines are now being installed with a mach 2 cruise speed and the engine will be used in older planes for a replacement upgrade. Being used in older planes they will be able to build more making it more reasonable then just building them for the Su57's.
I think people undersimate this plane. With some sources indicating 32 planes have been built instead of the previous 17-18. Once the more modern engines are fitted and 60-100 planes are done this could be very capable challenger to the US fighters
Russia already has a bunch of more than capable challengers to the US planes:
Su-30SM/SM2, Su-35S, MiG-31, MiG-35.
@@Sevastopol91 the su 57 is meant to be an upgrade to the su 35 flanker but it's a bit too expensive
@@cideltacommand7169
It's not "too expensive" it's the engines, the only thing holding the aircraft back is that the engines are not made or ready. Once that's done they can produce them. Coincidentally, the Armata platform has the same issue, that being the Engines.
It's also so advanced it's a Transformer, with one flick of an Oligarch's wrist it can turn into a Swiss Bank Account.
😂😂😂
Can you name any oligarch from Russia?
@@birchwot6979 well you may work for Oleg D, or Potanin, but I guess you're not bottling for Putin's former best butt-boi Yevgeny because his plane magically transformed into a cloud of aluminium chaff. And he can't sign your check anymore. Good luck in your next role comrade.
@@birchwot6979 Abramovich, Putin, Usmanov. What do I win?
@@birchwot6979you think Russia is a democracy. That's adorable
It can't even beat the old F14 Tomcat, Tom Cruise taught me that in Top Gun.
😂
real
tom cruise is a smart man
It's saddening that so many of our American citizens get their supposed facts from movies, video games and the media, then spread those supposed facts around as being factual without any PROOF whatsoever😔 It's cool to root for your home team, but if your home team hasn't proven to be the BEST besides talking about what they can do, then it's dumb to brag about what you've been TOLD💥😵
Hollywood miracle 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The datalink will go beyond the basic Link-16
OSNOD allows control of assets via the datalink..
Also, OSNOD extend to land and sea based forces for a completely integrated BMS
Does anyone know what the song in the intro is called? I can't seem to find it.
Perhaps the reason for the production difficulties is that they cannot find enough philips head screws.
RCS of a zeppelin. And people wonder why they have made literally zero foreign sales while the F35 is the hottest fighter on the market.
This is one of those “if you know, you know” punchlines that I love.
People are right about production issues but Russia has learned many lessons from this war and Sukhoi will deliver double the number of Su-57 this year than previous one and all will have the new engine and other upgrades installed.This project was so slow because Russians didn't expect to get into any hot wars against an enemy with a lot of air defense.
The first casualty of war is always the truth...
THank you.. no more videos needed .. thanks
Regarding the engines, I really wish you would have mentioned that Russia just equipped back in November 2023 is already incorporated into an unknown amount of number of Su-57's and you can really see their nozzle differences, also known as the AL-51F-1 Engine, Russia successfully flew the Su-57 a few months ago with these brand new engines.
In terms of the S-70 Hunter-B UAV - Russian's have invested heavily into the Su-57 AI - Which is relayed from Airbase Command Servers to the Pilot, and the Pilot using AI assistance can control the drone. Also, yes, the AL-51 Engines are thinner like the S-70 and yet still maintains its thrust vectoring. Just sad you saying "When will this happen?" when it already did.
Fun Fact regarding the predecessor engines, the one's the Su-35S & T-50 Prototypes use, the Saturn AL-41 - China in 2018 iirc bought 30+ Su-35S Aircraft, for the sole purpose of studying their engines, for their own Aircraft programs.
Another: I am more than sure that India is regretting its choice to pull out from the FGFA program, because now Pakistan just recently ordered J-31 (supposed) Stealth Aircraft from China, while China has its own Development of Stealth Aircraft like the J-20 and J-31, and India has had clashes and conflicts with both these nations in the 20th Century, after World War 2.
Yeah, I never heard Russia claiming to have any aerial dogfights except for quadrocopter drones lol. Ukraine on the other hand, well, Ghost of Kiev since day 1. Said 43 Air to Air frags before admitting he was made up (just 2 days after "the family of the Ghost of Kiev" received his "posthumous medal").
The only Raptors this thing is going to kill are the ones it sucks into it's engines.
The only way this thing is killing a raptor is by shooting at the actual birds
A good rule of thumb with the Russians is if you don't see it, they don't have it. They will always have a few to show off. But you never see the item go into mass production.
Tell that to the su-35, su 34, su 30,
Take your adhd meds kid, these things take time
@@Simeon301091 The SU-57 first flew in 2010 and has been in the Russian air force since the end of 2020. In all that time, they have produced a grand total of.... 32 (10 test, 22 production aircraft).
We have 187 F-22 Raptors and we've already built over 1,000 of the F-35 in various models for our own use and for exportation with countless more on the way.
At the rate they're going, we'll have retired the F-22 and replaced it in similar numbers with 6th gen aircraft before the SU-57 ever breaks 100 in production models and there will be enough F-35s flying around to become the 3rd largest air force on Earth by themselves.
@imapopo2924 when was the first f22 flight and production model? When was the first f35 flown?
They are a few Years behind in prototype to mass series, cry me a river. The Russians aren't trying to be a peer competitor with the US, they have enough nukes to barbecue to silhouette of every arm chair General commenting on this into their mom's basements so they don't need too.
@@imapopo2924 32 might be higher than the real number, isn't it closer to 23? 10 test 13 production? And yeah, russias economy is a little sad tbh
@@helpmedaddyjesus7099 I just pulled the number of Wikipedia. I'm surprised it's even that high. For all I know, you may be right
The new planes delivered last month are now powered by the new engine
Thank you for the all the break down
The Berkut is the su-47 not the 37
It was actually carrying the model code "S-32" and "S-37" (note there is no "u") before becoming the "Su-47".
Same case as the "Su-57" being the "T-50" prior.
@@keso_de_bola1750 oh ok thanks. Also based erusean profile pic
@@keso_de_bola1750 oh ok. Thank you random Erusean citizen
2:10 also makes sense. After all, Russian military doctrine is designed for defense and every corner of the huge country must be reached as quickly as possible in case of defense. In order to reach the USA unnoticed, the Russians and Soviets back then have mainly specialized in their submarines.
you really think the U.S. wouldn't notice an aircraft with the same RCS as an f-18. Think about that for a second then Go google Aegis Detection system.
Guess that explains why they are shit at fighting a war in Ukraine, it was offensive, not defensive
@@harbour2118You are very misinformed like so many! The west continued to encroach on Russias border with troops and offensive missiles aimed at Russia. Russian tried for years to tell the west that what they were doing was a threat (which it most certainly was)! The U.S. caused the coup in Ukraine to put their coke head puppet Zelensky in office to mortar and threaten Russian territories! That’s just half the story but you really need to educate yourself!! If Russia encroached on the U.S. borders, the U.S. would have stared all out war, no question!!
@@harbour2118 and yet the UKR with all the help from US/EU/NATO are the one losing. Keep killing brain cells and smoking that crack pipe harder.
@@harbour2118 Stop fantasizing. Russia wages war better than any country in the world, including the United States. As usual, you are a propagandist who does not accept the facts. and Russia is not yet waging a war, it is conducting a Special Military Operation. against NATO countries. Russia spends more ammunition per day than the United States during the entire Iraq campaign.And even the American magazine U.S. News & World Report named the Russian Armed Forces the best in the world. And that's true. The United States is not capable of fighting Russia at this level. Russia is achieving all of its goals, as even Western military experts admit. And Russia is also fighting in Ukraine with NATO countries, and the Ukrainians are the same Russians, so they fight just as stubbornly as the Russians, and except for the Russians, no one in the world can fight and give themselves like that
The SU-47 BERKUT is hands down one of my all time favorite aircraft designs ever produced. Its forward swept wings although created design challenges, once it was figured out and combined with full thrust vectoring made it extremely maneuverability at low to high speed was impressive and far beyond the F-22 Raptors ability. That alone makes it a formidable and extremely deadly air to air combat aircraft.
The SU-57 Felon as NATO calls it, is actually a blend of the F22 and YF23 aircraft designs and that being said is also Its own completely different animal. Hyper sonic missile capable makes it hard to find and kill before it strikes from extreme distance from target making the job of the F22 ever harder before visual engagement.
the way war is carried out in these days you dont need a lot of fighter jets... its all about missles and drones
You forgot to show the pan head rivets along every panel in your animations
Later Models seem to have fixed that seems like the rivets was only on Prototypes and demo models which is still super weird.
T50 not Su57
Those panels were supposed to be removed for analysis during testing. The aircraft stealth skinning is the last thing perfected during the final stages of production for any stealth aircraft.
Bro it's incredible how good you've become since I subscribed a few months ago!
And all that while still putting out videos on a crazy schedule and working with big sponsors like Edge
I've been using Blender professionally for 12 years so I can appreciate how much work has gone into this
His voiceovers gotten so much better too, before.he sounded almost ai, now he's got some life in it
I waited for this video since forever cuz SU-57 is the BEST
All praises of the SU- 57 have aged like plague-infected rat guts in the sun.
Can understand the hopelessness the western manufacturers feel ....looking at superior russian aircraft....
“Raptor killer” YEAH OKAY. 💀🤣
Raptor has never even seen combat
@DiabloGamingLTD
Yes it has, it was involved in airstrikes in Syria, and was apart of the US Air Force kicking Wagner’s ass during the battle of Khasham.
@@DiabloGamingLTD neither has the Su-57. The raptor doesn’t need to see combat to prove its capabilities. We’re talking about a plane that was developed by Lockheed Martin. A company renowned for repeatedly developing ground breaking aircraft spanning back to the 1930’s lol that name alone has enough weight behind it to know that plane is either gonna do what they say it can do or more than they say it can do. I’m not saying the Su-57 is something to take lightly buddy but it’s not competing with the F-22.
@@DiabloGamingLTDso you're implying that the su57 was seen in combat outside of shooting missiles at orphanages in Ukraine.
@@WocketInMyPocket_ su57 was deployed to Syria for testing and did air to ground missions not spot but some and are you speaking about the same company that made the F35 that keeps falling out of the skies and they had to stop production also that same company the made the F35 that was detected my a 1960 radar and hit by a s200 missle in in Syria 😂😂😂😂
It's a city block of an aircraft like could fit in one parking lot, I mean it's not stealthy but it's still nice
very good video demontrating how unbiased you are. Definitly one of if not the best on youtube for this type of stuff.
"The famous forward swept wing design we all flew in Ace Combat" legit playing ace combat while watching ur videos
it’s a 4th gen fighter dressed up as a 5th, has an RCS of a clean super hornet, and they decided to paint it in high-vis colors..
Ah yes, the "high-vis" colors like... black and grey. As opposed to the "low-vis" eye-fuckingly orange canopy of F-22
@@TheByQQ the gold canopy is a special coating to reduce radar signature. Oh, and you forgot the blue and the bright white on the F(ucking horrible)elon.
@@patmahomesisthegoat1622 Blue and white are... "high-vis" on the sky?
Have you ever went outside?
@@TheByQQ smh you get my point. Keep believing your daddy’s (Putin) propaganda bud
It has the radar cross section of a f18.
You can spot this in the radar screen like the Empire State Building 😂 you can hear it’s whistle noise from miles away too 😂😂😂
i remember seeing a recent rcs approximation of the felon which with no external hardpoints used gets all the way down to 0.007 and the f-35 scored 0.005
That's not accurate, the SU-57 inlets aren't shrouded, the engines are too exposed increasing rcs, it's canopy doesn't have radar absorbing coating.... Sukhoi themselves had Chinese hackers steal a bunch of information and part of the documents leaked showed an RCS of 0.04m² vs 0.0001m² for the F-35
Never forget a single F-14 took down two SU-57’s in that documentary.
LOL
Xaxaxa
Danger zone
Documentary 😂😂😂
The thing that was the most misleading about that was that there were two flight-worthy Su-57's.
The stealth of a brick wall was funny 😂
Its as funny as what 5th gen Aircraft UK have made?
@@teknetiniumtankie cope
@@teknetinium cope
similar with the laying F35 data.
@@teknetinium lol idk I really don’t care if they have one or not 😂
So much respect for Avionic Engineers!!!
They have a worthy successor of the f-16 after what 40 plus years
Theres nothing good about the F-16, it was always a cut price shopping trolly to fill out Airforce numbers right from the begining, fine if your bombing sandle wearers in a desert somewhere but wait until it comes up against something other than that, theres a reason most nations around Oz use F-18s or F-15s
no this is a worthy competitor to the Wright Flyer over 100 years later. An F-16 is way out of it's league. a balsawood glider could probably shoot this crap down
Even a su27 is too much for the f16 kid
Ok, the f16 might be better than the su57 at air to ground, but have you considered air to air?
@@helpmedaddyjesus7099 su57 have good air to ground arament and carry as much as the f16 and it have targeting pod too
I can't help but love this fighter.
Its ideal air craft design. Whats missing is bigger rocket engine and some fancy electronics
The new engines are already ready.
The ultimate 4.5gen fighter even the US airforce classified as a 4.5jen which is saying something
@@baronvonslambert small problems with the definitions here are that "stealth" most likely isn't defined, and having MAWS, 5(maybe 6) radars, an IRST and multiple radar bands to scan with isn't counted as advanced integrated avionics? What would count then? Honest question.
Show a source
@@baronvonslambert It's getting new engines this year which will make it a 5th gen.
Dude has a short to ground.. The most common way to start a fire.. Especially since the breaker isn't popping
The SU-57 is a beautiful aircraft and quite a performer, but there are a few things that would, IMHO, prevent it from being a "Raptor killer".
The first is the fact that the SU-57 is not as stealthy as the Raptor. This means that the Raptor would see it before it could see the Raptor. This equates to "first look, first shot, first kill".
Second, the winner in any dogfight is usually the better pilot. US pilots are far more proficient than Russian pilots, who get less than half the proficiency time as do American pilots. While US pilots spend a lot of time in simulated engagements, Russian pilots generally go up, fly a mission, then come home.
Third, Russia only has about 20 of these aircraft, and AFAIK none have ever seen front line service. But as has been insinuated, they may have flown some missions without having been detected.
But the F&E videos and animations are great! I always enjoy them - keep up the good work!!
It’s very cool and has some great maneuverability, but I don’t think it would last against f-35s or F-22s. Or the F15EX missile trucks
It has Phillips head screws holding the skin on. It has only one trick to “kill” the raptor, and it’s as stealthy as a the sun at noon.
You might know where the sun is at noon, but I dare you stare right at it. You can't! I'm joking of course. Mostly... Russia is a chump in any game that requires finesse and tech.
hey now! if those russki fanboys could read, they'd be very upset
Do you actually do any research?
Just spewing the same thing
@@oluwaseyiadenmosun9571 what's your complaint exactly? Or are you just spewing the same ol "do your research" crap with no actual complaint? I'm not insulting, I am truly asking.
@@michaelhowell2326exposed rivets were on the T-50 pre serial ones only, now im no felon fan but it seems to be pretty common word that its just on every airframe
You should make a video about variable sweep wing aircraft like the f14 the f111 and the mig 23
and 23's twin the mig 27
the howl of those engines is menacing
we need su57 vs j20 for a battle of jank stealth fighters
Don't forget that it has 4th generation engines, it's production is stuck in the 90s which is bad for stealth, let's not forget sukhois own patent for the felon which states that the rcs 0.1 square meters, let's not forget the airframe and inlets. The straight intake is bad for stealth leading to higher rcs, and the first which in use does not have ram covering leading to higher rcs
All of that is explicitly mentioned in the video.
@@Feroce no matter how this channel explains it. This plane is stupid and inferior to even the South Korea's Stealth fighter.
True @@Shinobubu
I think the biggest question on everyone's minds is: DID they though?
Gorgeous airplane. It reminds me of the Northrop YF-23 Black Widow II.
Although it has never flown actual missions, it's really beautiful looking plane
So stealth that no one has ever seen it
True..especially the western tin cans...
The F-22 is set to be retired before the SU-57 sees production.
tbf it is already being produced, just in very small numbers
@@imoheight I stand corrected. 24 complete aircraft expected by 2025 according to the Russians.
@@NoahSpurrierand 20 plus 12 prototypes already built
@@eu3127 Again, that’s according to the Russian claims. They have a history of exaggerating their forces - 1961 Tushino Air Show in Moscow, 1961 Paris Air Show, 1999 Moscow Air Show. It’s difficult to put much credence in Russian military claims. Let’s talk about their tanks or navy or hypersonic super missiles. Paper tiger.
@@NoahSpurrier yep ,you always repeat the same things.
You love so much wars,why you don't start one against Russia? Only then we'll see who is the paper tiger.
But Hollywood make you look cool and powerful ,i admit that, an f14 beating two su57 ,amazing 😉
Intresting thing is, during war in ukraine near damaged ukrainian objects VSU finds scraps from cruise missiles designed only for Su-57
so maybe now Su-57 have more frags than F-22
It’s a thing of beauty. Now my favorite fighter.
Not raptor killer, dirt killer when it crashes
When did it crash.
Isn't F-22 also have a crash log
@@MoskusMoskiferus1611No, that's F-35.
@@MoskusMoskiferus1611 yeah, it the same amount of su57 crashes, but there’s around 1k f35 and 10 su57 and su57 still has the same amount of crashes with little aircraft
the raptor cant be killed it dosent fight it sits its ass down in an hangar
This 3D rendering will be featured as ‘in flight footage’ on TASS and RT within the week I’m sure…
USA working on 6 generation fighters while Russia hasn’t even perfected 5 generation yet 😂
They already have a 6th gen aircraft that is more stealthy than the f-22 and f-35 imagine whats an 6th gen jet capable of.
@@harrishromero6447 well that’s not yet proven, we haven’t seen it yet😜
@@felixtorres6512 b-21 raider is a 6th gen aircraft
@@harrishromero6447 and am glad that technology is on our side, question is, have you heard of it being in service yet?
@@felixtorres6512 in production
Excellent work
Would love to see a video about the j20
Unpopular opinion: I think it looks pretty.
I have read quite a lot about this topic, but there is one site with a deep analysis that I can share .Okay first about the dogfight in visual range. Remember, visual range means getting close, not beyond visual range, because the Su-57 inherits great maneuverability from other Su models with 3D thrust vectoring. It's great, but in terms of stealth capabilities, especially fighting beyond visual range, it's not great by the standard of stealth. It has a radar cross section similar to the F-18 Super Hornet without its armament. So, if it faces the F-22 or F-35 beyond visual range and in a radar fight, it will really lose. It's really painful to say, because it's a great plane, and many simulations and recreations have been done in DCS to note this with the specifications. Now, from the analysis and from the military itself, they say that there are still some other full capabilities that we don't know, but in terms of stealth, it's really not up to the standard of stealth. If the scenario is a dogfight in close range, it can probably defeat the F-35, as that plane lacks maneuverability, but if it's the F-22, the F-22 will probably win with almost 80%, as it has a better fight compared to the Su-57. The thing I hate is why Russia, which has great engineers, lacks funds that make some planes have to be cut and cost. This big example is the Su-57, which lacks full coating of stealth material and many things that can be improved to become better at stealth. You can read from this link, which has a deep analysis of the Su-57's cross section:
www.quora.com/What-is-the-RCS-of-the-SU-57
One thing I have to note about the data that you are using for the RCS stuff. The F-35 was not given RAM coatings as they did not know how it was applied. Also, all of these models, besides the Su-57 and J-20 were assumed to have a reflective coating.
just like the T-14 Armata, they too scared to send it to UKR
But it is a good looking tank much better than its predecessors
The armata hasn't even been officially accepted by the army why would it be sent into combat
@@alexdunphy3716 i think that they are waiting until other countries come out with new tanks like abrams x or kf51
The SU-57 has apparently been used, firing missiles from long range. Which is all any Russian or Ukrainian aircraft does, because of the density of excellent SAM systems.
NATA could probably do SEAD, but Russia has never had that capability, because the only countries worth using SEAD against are… former Soviet ones, and so the USSR never developed SEAD tech, giving Russia a starting point of jack all.
Where the Abrams at? sitting at the back tacking dust.
50% of American adults are illiterate according to a recent study. This has huge implications on America's ability to maintain it's status as a so called developed nation 😮
I highly doubt the capabilities of Russia to create an AI wingmen, capable of automation. Russia never had a prolific commercial sector that's harvesting great minds and has money to spend. On the other hand, the US has the largest such sector in the world, the greatest talent and all the money to invest in the world.
Exactly!
You such a patriot ain't you,
@@onkabetserathari8084 I'm just thinking straight and logically. I analyze based on the current Russian technological capabilities.
Will you make a video about ornithopter aircraft the (Riout 102 T alerion)
I think it will be good one
The amount of Americans here chugging their own Kool-aid 💀
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