Jamie Carragher & Gary Neville DISAGREE over Man Utd 99' & Man City 23' combined XI
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As Manchester City get ever closer to winning the treble, Jamie Carragher and Gary Neville pick their combined teams from Manchester United's legendary 1999 side and City's 2023 squad.
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Grealish for Giggs is just outrageous
Grealish is better than giggs. Compare the seasons... not overall body of work for entire career
Not for the season overall obviously giggs that season he had 3 goals one assist it’s only on the season
@@Cyrus-rodn45 get a grip
Giggs is one of the biggest frauds and false images in world football. The guy played like 1.000 games with like only 150 goals and 200 assists
And Gundogan over Scholes and Keane.
This notion that Nev was a bad player needs to stop. He's been too humble over the years and people have got it in their heads now that he was some sort of Charity case in the team.
Gary achieved 30 trophies and 85 caps. Carra knows Neville was better than him and played in a better team his entire career, so he has to take every opportunity to wind him up! What else does he have? I love their chemistry though. I'm sure Gary knows how great his career was.
@@ThatGuy-mr2el Carra does acknowledge quite often in real moments that Gary was probably better than him
And yet Walker is still better. The best right-back the league has ever seen.
Fergie rated Nev immensely. When the goat manager rates you then you know inside you are good enough to play at United for 15 years.
@@LukasOfTheLight nah.... Walker is overrated
Imagine Beckham, De Bruyne and Scholes assisting Haaland...
If you have Beckham you don't need a de bruyne and vice versa
@@BEEShariqueHammad they still can play together in a 442 formation
You dont need all three lol
@@jyomama6412
They can but having 2 very similar players wouldn't make a lot of sense.... I'd rather have b.silva and Beckham or giggs and de bruyne.... Much more lethal
@@jyomama6412 I mean sure, but why have 2 players who have essentially the same job on the pitch
Not a United fan, but Paul Scholes was pure class- without him, there would have been no treble.
I don’t understand why people call him overrated. They act like goals and assists are everything, he was genuinely class and could control the tempo of any game in the big moments.
Lifelong Utd fan but Gundagan is far better as a footballer
@@Duddy8822 Mostly just bitter scousers
This current Man City team would annihilate Man Utd 99 team and that's coming from a neutral point of view .
@@freePalestine510 no chance
I love how Neville used Carragher's reasoning for Grealish to discredit Carragher dropping Scholes
I completely understand Carragher here. If i had 0 Premier League titles just because of one team, then I would probably also have a personal grudge against that team 😂
Lol as a united fan, I agree 😂
Lol
Ahhh when you lose an argument and have to ridicule somebody personally because they just wrote your precious little team off.
Carraghers won all ends up
@@Realeyesrealizereallies.2000 Won treble with mostly academy players. City on the otherhand under investigation for 100+ ffp breaches
@@Realeyesrealizereallies.2000 you think about United a lot. You already are a fan 😂 be real with yourself.
Its criminal that Dwight Yorke only won one individual award that season - he had the most goal contributions of any player in Europe's top leagues (29 goals, 19 assists) and was a key part of the first English team to win a treble.
To provide more context: Ginola won the 1999 PFA Player of the Year with 3 goals + 10 assists in the league and no trophies, Yorke registered 18 league goals and 11 assists and won the league and FA cup. Rivaldo won the 1999 Ballon D'or after registering 29 goals and 18 assists across all comps and won only La Liga.
Barcelona didn't make it out of the Champions League group stage that season. They played United twice with both games ending 3-3. Over those games, Rivaldo scored 2 goals, Yorke registered 1 goal and 1 assist. Yorke came 11th in the Ballon D'or that season. Disgrace!
Because sponsors lobby for their players.
Don't ever compare rivaldo to York again
Yorke retired that season
@@jasonwolfe5787 No he didn'r he played 'till 2006😂
@@prodigalfraudaddy Why not? Both were top players at the time? You make it seem like we are comparing Neymar and Harvey Barnes or whatever
Never mind some of his outrageous takes, I think Gary is definitely too humble about his career and his worth as a player. I don't like United but he was pure class, absolutely top 3 in his position in the Prem, might even be the best
I think he's literally the most decorated full back in the PL era. Name me a full back who has more trophies than him in the PL ?
@@Rudi_Mentary723 Obviously there isn't any since he won like 13 league titles alone, but even if you ignore the achievements, he was an amazing player. He wouldn't be a staple in that United team for so long if he wasn't, that was the point I was trying to prove
Everyone thinks he was a lesser player because Gary purposely plays down his own ability, constantly makes jokes about his performances, and Roy Keane likes to join in with it. He’s become underrated.
Think a lot of United players look good because Ferguson made them play like brothers going to war. When I used to watch Neville, Giggs and Carragher, they were nothing special. Players like Vidic, Ferdinand, Van der Saar, Gerrard, Scholes, etc. stood out way more.
@@Rudi_Mentary723he's proly the best rb in prem history by far
Grealish and Gundogan over Giggs and Scholes is pure lunacy
It is NOT.
Gündoğan is the big game player.
Over their careers yes, based on the individual seasons that are being compared it's not lunacy at all
like Jamie said: he based the 11 off those specific seasons not career which makes sense
Off this season alone Jamie is right. Those players are legends but all the city players named will be regarded in the same heir within the next 20 years.
Why do they act like Neville was some bang average player. He was a great player that was in the United team for 2 decades. Give him some respect.
It's just in comparison to the rest of that United team he seemed average Similarly gundogan is underrated cause he's playing with de bruyne
Honestly mate I don’t get it. The guy was class and I think he’s too humble. He was a quality right back for 20 years! Consistent!! Solid!! Dependable! Hardly got beat one on one! And could cross a ball!!
"The only right back at the club"
@@gonzojones8422 it's relative. Relative to the other United players and relative to other fullbacks in world football. Ferdinand, Vidic and Stan were seen as some of the best CBs in the world. Scholes and Keane the best CMs. Schmeichel and Van der Sar the best keepers etc. In comparison Neville wasn't seen as world class in the same sense. He played a similar time to Cole (older obviously) and it was obvious to everyone that watched football Cole was the superior player. Cole is an example of a world class fullback and Neville clearly wasn't that tier of player. Cafu for example was a RB that was world class and Neville just wasn't at that level. He was definitely dependable but it's like how Azpilicueta has been dependable for Chelsea. In his prime he was world class but he's no Dani Alves, Lahm or even at the level of the next generation like Reece James. That's why people compare Neville to players like Walker. It's not as if fullbacks from that era can't compete with the fullbacks of today. Most people are still taking Cafu over Walker. It's just that Neville wasn't world class in that sense snd the Premier league has never really had the best RB in the world until recently.
Neville a great player?? 😂 😂 😂 😂, Messi, Ronaldo, Zidane, Maradona, Pele are great players, saying Neville is a great player is ludicrous.
I’m an Evertonian and Nev is right, that United midfield was perfect: the best crosser/dead ball specialist on one side, and a pacey wizard out-right winger on the other, with the most skill fill goal-scoring midfielder in the middle alongside an inspirational captain and defensive blocker. Incredible.
The disrespect jamie did to scholes giggs its pure rivalry bias because hes a Liverpool fan
Surely not! It's all banter.
Giggs was poor in 99 and injured a lot, i love Giggs but he doesn't deserve to get in.
To be honest these comparisons are always skewed towards the teams that are current ..
20 years time they'll be comparing this man City side to the team winning then and it will be that team who will have most players in the best 11 ..
Been watching these comparisons for years
And Gary is not biased?
@@seven92023biased in what way? That team accomplished a feat that no English has ever accomplished since. It’s disrespectful that this was even a topic
Gary is right. Jose was the first one to raise the bar of the league with 95 points in his first Chelsea season. Then Pep and Klopp took it further with 100, 99, 98 & 97 points between 2018-2020.
Come on man. Mou did it first, but it was never a norm till Pep came. He is about to win his 5th title and 4 of them will be with more than 90+ points. That's what you call setting up the trend.
@@deepakpandey8240 Come on man, Pep is only at city because of Arab oil. My grandma could score half the goals Haaland nets whilst also being able to win half the trophies Pep won with that oil money. Get some class. Do you think it's difficult to buy all the best players in the world and then ask them to win enough matches to take the trophies? It's got to be easier than doing it on a shoestring budget.
@@neillynch_ecocidologist Thats hilarious this notion that they bought all the best players, bar a few exceptions they have actually payed very little compared to United and Chelsea etc.. yes they have oil money, but they spend very wisely that is the sole difference, and no your grandma could not score half of Haalands goals because just look at Jesus and Sterling for example they missed so many chances..he still has to make the runs and be in the right place at the right time, also he has scored a bicycle kick, would love to see you or your nan even attempt that...
Pep and Klopp played in the weakest era of the prem on record. 2017-2022 had some of the worst big 6 teams and just farming weak teams isnt competitive.
@@deepakpandey8240 mourinho couldn’t sustain 90points season in season out. Mourhino one of the goats, but it’s always short term
Gary is right. Fans think Pep changed the premier league, but Mourinho was a decade ahead. With 95 points, breaking records and playing amazing football with amazing defence
Chelsea didn't play amazing football
Mourinho couldn't beat pep
@@Cyrus-rodn45 😂😂😂010
@@Cyrus-rodn45 LOL Mourinho beat Pep's UEFALONA with Inter Milan and Mourinho also drove Pep out of Spain. Weak Pep needed a sabbatical because he couldn't handle Mourinho's Madrid who reached the 100-point mark first in La Liga and shattered all records in the 2011-2012 season.
@@shahzadirani And mourinho is at roma now because no top club wants to hire that fossil
Neville is so humble he's dragged himself down to Carraghers level but when you look at the trophies and achievements its like comparing Maldini to Harry Maguire. Carragher is a Micah Richards level player not a PL legend.
Micah Richards has a Premier League medal though 😂
Both players around the same level, Neville just played in a better team
Don't you disrespect Big Meeks
Carragher and Neville both are average. They just played a lot of games for two legendary clubs.
@@xAA7terrible take. Neville was so consistent for years and years. On another level to carra
I’m a lifelong Liverpool fan but even I can concede that that United midfield of Keane, Scholes, Beckham and Giggs was perfection. Greatest Prem midfield ever.
Lol no it was not. Xavi iniesta busquets showed levels
@@JmsMlny Where's the 4th player
@@nVnBrown Messi duuh?
@@JmsMlny Different time different style. I don't think anyone could sensibly claim that Iniesta, Xavi and Busquets were BETTER than Scholes, Keane, Beckham and Giggs.
@@JmsMlny messi fan boy here
When Gary looks in the camera and asks Keown if he’s alright 😅
City fan but I think Gary is right, we haven't actually won anything yet so not really fair to compare a team that has won the treble to one that hasn't won it yet, and might not even do it
heck no. that manu team barely managed to lift the champions league, bayern dominated the whole game and were far superior. manu got super lucky. gary's talkin pure nonsense. i mean he picked the whole manu squad on the basis that they won treble that season. yes, they were well oiled machine but wouldn't even pick anyone of them for my all time epl squad. fergie had to make due of what he had, it's not like he cherry picked his squad. question should be, would fergie had started half of the manu players if he had mancity 23 players at his disposal?
This was the same exact argument Jaime and Roy Keane had in 2020 before Covid took off. Everybody was ready to compare that Liverpool team to United '99. Then, Liverpool crashed out of the Champions League and they didn't come close to the FA Cup Final, so the argument was moot. It's the same thing now.
@@sudsehun76 Every single team in that 99 CL run beats this city team btw. This is the same city team that lost to a united with weghorst up front and you think theyll beat teams with prime zidane, ronaldo, rivaldo etc.
@@Nightsu scholes gets in every team midfield ever he even get in the greatest Barca squad of all time he was that good controlled games made the game play at his pace
@@Nightsusorry pal wrong person
Gary is so humble man, he was a great player.
He was good, but let's be honest, Walker is a better RB. Arguably, Trippier is just as good.
@@ABESW0RLD I would say Walker is better - but Carras logic is based on the individual season alone. And Walker hasn’t played that much this season! Also downplays how good Gary was back then and how well he complimented Beckham
@@samwize28 True, I agree
For days, wake me up when Walker wins a UCL (please don’t if it happens)😂😂😂
"a great player" - No.
I’m not even gonna lie, Walker is genuinely up there with the best RBS the Prem has ever seen (although is is probably the weakest position ever also), but Walker hasn’t even been a starter this season. Picking him ahead of Gary for this comparison is unfair and I think Gary didn’t argue for himself because he didn’t want to come across as arrogant
Pointless discussions on football,darts,tennis players etc etc in who are the greatest are all things that fans did in pubs or at work years ago they serve no purpose as anybody who has played any game at the peak of their powers are good all this conversations do are just a panellists subjective truth and not absolute truth which Is only God
walker never ever offered anything attacking wise he's simply an older and a bit better AWB
Not sure he's particularly good defensively either, pace is his main attribute imo.
walker is in the convo for one of the best if not the best fb's to play the game. g new isn't even in the condo for top 10 to play in the premier... laughable comparison 🤣
@@jonnyreed4718 Gary Neville is definitely one of the best right backs to play in the premier league, I can't believe people are straight faced when they argue otherwise.
I like Neville’s analysis - he is honest
The large points totals is down to bloated squads. It's happened across Europe that teams run away with leagues more or dominate with large points totals. Talent hogging from the super rich makes consistency week to week easier if you're the best in form. Impossible to compare to previous eras. United in '99 were renowned for their depth at striker (even though Sheringham had a very poor season) but that squad only had three central midfielders. Different times.
This new generation are obsessed with it. Well said.
@@alextaylor397 Well, especially City and Liverpool fans
Gundogan over Scholes is absolutely embarrassing like there is no feasible world where that’ll be possible.
It's not
No Gundogan is unbelievable, I'd adjust the formation, drop Giggs and put Scholes in there
@@akmalrodzi4633 drop Giggs 😂😂😂 The guy is the best left wing to ever play in English football, period! Please don't tell me about CR7 because he only played in the EPL for a few seasons at left wing
... and now Gündogan buried United in the FA Cup final 😁
The 99 treble team played Barcelona, bayern munich, Inter Milan and Juventus in UCL. played Liverpool, Chelsea and a great Arsenal team in FA cup.
Currently, out of all big european teams, only RM has been close to their standards.
Can’t disagree with Gary’s 2nd 11 to be fair. As much as I’d want to disrespect that United team their quality can’t be denied
Quality back in the 90s, they wouldn't live with the best players today.
@@Zarkava8delusional. That's like saying Maradona wouldn't be able to play with the players today
@@vlsui66 Did you think Maradona's Goal stand with current gen VAR?. Football is more technically Imroved. So many UCL ties have may already lift off with current rules and technical tools .
Funny thing is both Keane & Scholes missed the Champions league final and Utd still won the trophy 🏆
That United team just had the strongest mentality i ever saw. Everything was thrown at United that season and i mean EVERYTHING but they ALWAYS came out on top in the end.
Exactly, that 99 squad had the perfect balance, they could beat anyone. I believe that the 07/08 team had technically better players but if they were to go up against 98/99 then the latter would win.
@@mellowfellow7604 That 99 United side were NEVER beaten when it mattered even with Keane getting sent off and Scholes missing out.
Funny thing, it was Keane that won them the semi-final to get to the final, and his absence was very evident in the final.
@@Arse-Crack Exactly how I remember them. That Arsenal FA Cup game showed their mentality and individual flare.
The fact that the treble team is always used as a comparison to any teams that's performing well really says something.
I think Jamie forgot how good was the Italian clubs in the 90s, Man Utd had to beat Juve & Inter with the likes of Ronaldo, Zidane, Baggio, Conte, Inzaghi, Simeone & Deschamps as opponents.
Jose Mourinho was the first manager who raise the bar in league by winning the league with 95pts in the 2004/05, he sets the standard initially
But he only did it once, Pep is about to do it 4 times and 3 times vs Klopp's Liverpool. Pep teams scored way more goals and were all more entertaining to watch.
Mou did it against a rebuilding MU and an ageing Arsenal
@@jimmywalker8354 it was different era tho
yes, well done for literally repeating what Neville said in this video
You just knew Jamie was taking giggs out 😂
Makes sense to with 3 goals and 1 assist.
@@yoiamgucci2743 Far more effective than entire grealish career
The argument of the modern game improving in competitiveness and the demands on the athletes is very sound, there were some statistics that the distance covered, number of sprints and pressures per game has increased since the past two decades in the EPL. To be able to consistently get 90+ points is a crazy feat, even if they don't have the treble, it really is just that teams are more remembered for what they won rather than the manner in which they won.
You know they shouldn't do this best team during the season. Because that Gundo's two amazing goals is why he is in Carra's team. It is so fresh in his mind. It has to be absolutely fresh, maybe do this exercise in July.
Interesting fact. That United team that Gary picked only started one game together that season. A 1-0 win against Coventry in Feb 1999 (stats from Duncan Alexander at The Athletic). Goes to show the importance of quality throughout a squad in order to win trophies.
Yeah surprising
People in the comments section are really c*rsing Carra but missing the point that the topic is on 2 seasons (1999 & 2023) alone not overall careers of the players 😭😭😭
Grealish over giggs🤣🤣🤣🤣
Gundo over scholes 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yeah but did you see Nevilles team? He had Neville over Walker 😂 Johnson over Dias 😂 Giggs over Grealish/Silva 😂
Giggs scored three goals that season
giggs that season doesnt make it
@@number.2 Grealish doesn’t make it aswell as mahrez/silva are better than him and have more G/A
@@baldalan3921 Grealish has less than 10 G/A and is overrated player, not sure why mahrez/silva haven’t been chosen instead considering they are more consistent and turn up in big games more than Grealish ever will
Neville is very humble when he talks about himself as a player. There’s a reason he played so long for United at right back and I feel he don’t get the credit he deserves
Gary Neville spot on! They still could theoretically finish the season with nothing so this feels very premature.
There’s less than 1% chance that will happen
They have the league in the bag wat are u on mate LOL
@@Elderlychannelofficial when was the parade? Also yes, let's say they win the league.
Is that equal to the treble?
@Dj Kreative You must not know the definition of theoretically.
They’re 4 wins (or 3 wins and 2 draws) away from the treble.
My team would be Schmeichel, Stam, Dias, Irwin
Keane, Rodri
Beckham,De bruyne, Scholes,Giggs
Haaland.
Dias? lol just because he LOOKS like he knows what he’s doing doesn’t mean he does.
He’s just as ponderous on the ball as Maguire. I will NOT be surprised if Pep sells him this summer… and everyone will say “nobody saw that coming”
@@felzy314 Okay well will probably stick Rodri in defence with Stam and Irwin and put Gundogan in midfield.
Gundogan over Scholes is pure heiracy
Because he hadn’t played that many games !😂
Scholes didn’t even start in the final that’s why he didn’t get picked 😂
Gary not even understanding the point of a combined XI 🤦♂️
🥲Giggs had 3 goals and 1 assist?. Hats off to the United management team for using the team so well
Look how important his goals were though..the winner in the FA cup semi in extra time with 10 men against one of the greatest back 4's in English football history and the late equaliser at home to Juve in the 1st leg semi..he scored a few goals that season in Europe. Got 3 or 4 in the group stage. He got a few assists too whipping them balls in from out wide into Cole and Yorke to head home..i remember them.
All comps better stats than grealish
No1 cared about stats back then, we all had eyes.
Gary Neville is classy. The amount of trophies the man has is unbelievable, and he remains humble (Arsenal fan)
What was great about the 99 trebble was that they got the results as a unit. Individually nearly every one on the pitch had played better for United in earlier or later seasons. But this was the season it all came together. Exceptions being Dwight as this was his best season at the club, Blomqvist as he was injured the next three seasons.
I’m honestly mind blown how some people are even trying to argue grealish and gundogan instead of giggs and scholes. It’s not even close
prob typical new age City fans who didn't watch the sport when Giggs and Scholes played
People born in mid 90s and up would understandably think so. It's the same reason many people born after 1980 choose Messi (or CR7) as their GOATs
Bro Giggs had 3 goals and 1 assist that entire season 😂😂😂. It’s based on season not entire career which wouldn’t be close.
Its just people trolling they dont genuinely think that. They know it would wind united fans up
@@jamesbradford7888 beckham gets in over grealish anyway let alone giggs😂😂🔵you actually thought you did something 😂😂😂😂
Thing is if we're being honest players in the 90s were going out having a few pints after the game. So on fitness levels alone this City team would wreck the United team.
Fergie stopped the drinking culture long before they won the treble mate
Gundogan over scholes is a wild take
As bad as Grealish over Giggs tbh.. shameless carry on
Gundogan is world class he can do everything like scholes😂😂
@@abdullahisaid4456 mate you've never seen Paul scholes play or even Gundongan... Why you acting like you have a clue, laughable
We won the league that year with only 79 points though. The level of character in players and teams has diminished over the years for certain, but the quality of the football, both technically and tactically is of a far higher standard than that of 1999.
Giggs has more winners medals than Grealish has g/a for City
What's that got to do with the price of cheese?
@@bucky2468 you tell me
He also has more pl titles than city has fans
This wasn't a lifetime achievements XI or else maybe you'd have a point here.
Forget Giggs and Scholes, how’s Walker got in over Gary when he’s been benched for Stones and Rico Lewis majority of the season 🤦♂️
Walker's been performing when he's had the chance and is always reliable against pacy wingers. Just hasn't fitted in with pep's experiments. Walker is probably the faster and most reliable defender in the world against pacy players.
It is crazy that after the last few seasons of us talking about these attacking full backs, we've whacked so many big tall centre backs into full back positions: Ben White, John Stones, Dan Burn, etc. and those full backs are now moving positions with trent now in midfield and Luke Shaw playing centre back. Basically gone full circle and realised oh yeah we do actually need defenders to defend
Because if Kyle Walker played for that Utd team in '99, Neville would've never played again.
Hes a better player than Gary 😭 gary is not handling mbappe
Because walker is a classic RB and pep decided to take fbs out of the team due to not having any left backs.. Peps genius can cloud peoples view of players. Walker as a right back is the most defensively sound ever seen in english football. Him and A.Cole are leagues ahead of anyone else!
Seriously he replaced Grealish with Giggs lmao😂😂😂😂😂
Giggs was scoring with his brothers missus more than he was on the pitch tbf 😂
@@yoiamgucci2743 😂
This is like the time Carragher did it with Keane, and he picked mostly Liverpool players and said it's the greatest PL side of all time 😂 1 PL later where are they now.
One point behind United.
@@MotherHen2012 who are average 😂
Great point the most celebrated league title ever they just get top 4 on the final day the following season. Had a title challenge last season and gonna miss out on top 4 this year
@@GGMC556 Apparently they are "back"
@@MotherHen2012 more trophies than liverpool and arsenal this season so they must be? You must have felt sick on cup final day bless you
Let me guess before I watch, Jamie puts most of city in 🤔🤔🤔 pressing play now
So Scholes had 21 GA that season, played 51 games, won the Treble , but wasn’t picked compared to Gundogan, whose got 16 GA this season, and have yet to win anything?
Sure.
Scholes has 6 goals, 7 assists, in the league that season and didn't play in the UCL final*. Still much better than gundogan
@@nathanielbutt no. He’s got 11 goals 11 assist that season. He didn’t play in the finals because he was suspended. He played 51 games that season which is immense.
@@Footie4ever I stated "in the league" ffs
@@nathanielbutt no you didn’t. You edited it. And he had 6 goals and 8 assist in the league.
And so what if it’s in the league? He’s got 21 GA for United that season which they won the treble. TREBLE meaning with the CL and also the FA CUP. No “only the league”
If you’re comparing to picking him or picking Gundo, you definitely have to take everything they did for their club into consideration. Not only “ In the league”
@@Footie4ever you have no idea what I edited, if you read my comment correctly I'm saying he's better than gundogan, you absolute heathen
The recent Liverpool and Man City teams would play united treble team off the park, United treble team would not be able to stand the pace of both Liverpool and Man City teams.
Peps Barca and the 1988 AC Milan team are the 2 best teams ive ever seen
Definitely agree with that
Pele’s Brazil???
@@raveninnsbruck9166 club sides, plus I'm not that old
And rodri is definitely close to scholes when it comes to running the show and dictating the tempo!
He will be remembered as one of the best ever!
“We’d find a way somehow.” 👏
Schmeichel
Walker, Stones, Stam, Irwin
Rodri, Keane
Beckham, KDB, Scholes
Haaland
Did Carragher seriously put Grealish ahead of Giggs & Gundogan ahead of Scholes or am I seeing things??? Giggs is one of the most decorated players of all time yet the man puts Grealish instead lmao. Scholes was arguably the best midfielder of his generation whilst earning praise from the likes of Xavi, Davids, Zidane etc etc. Not surprising coming from someone with zero Premier League titles tbh. I kinda expected it
Finally Neville was not going to let it slide, too many times Manchester United players are underrated with dumb excuses like but they played in a good team.
That's the same excuse they use with any players from this city team
Too biased
Imagine Neville vs Haaland? Haaland would eat him alive. 😂
@@Zarkava8 haaland got pocketed by luke shaw 😂😂😂😂
@@Johndoe-gf7eu Huh? Didnt United let in 6 goals against City in 1 game this season? 🤨
NO SCHOLES ? WOW FFS 😂
Id have bernando silva over grealish and giggs the fact ge didnt even get mentioned hes so underrated
I'm a City fan and Scholes is a shoe in. He was class
But, I'm not taking Giggs. His numbers are so low
Rodri's season has been way ahead of Keane
Beckham, Scholes, Keane, and Giggs is just a class above any midfield the PL has seen since
They won the most but I'd take Makelele-Essien-Lampard as a trio over them.
😂😂😂😂😂
They would have struggled against this City midfield
@@MattEddie1978 😂😂😂😂nice joke. You can think that all you want, it doesn’t make it ttue
@@Zarkava8 you got no likes because no one agrees. Cry more
Barca 09-11 was the best club team in history. Beautiful and breathtaking football. Was just a pure joy to watch them.
That's subjective. Some enjoy Arrigo Sacchi's Milan team, some enjoy Sir Alex Ferguson's United team in 1999 or 2006-2009, some enjoy Real Madrid 2014-2017.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
Also, without the referees - that Barca team end up with ZERO UCLs lol - they should thank the referees that they are mentioned in today's day and age.
@@shahzadirani Noone enjoys sir Alex's teams
Valdes/Mascherano Pique Abidal Alves/Busquets Iniesta Xavi/Messi Villa Pedro..........That team?
Neville got a point on picking a combined team. City need to do it.
All comps giggs 10 goals 4 assist 41 games
Grealish 5 goals 11 assist 47 games. Giggs slightly edges it.
Everyone talking about the league but giggs is clear for both champions league 4 goals 2 assist to grealish 1 and you guys should know his legendary FA cup solo goal.
A midfield of Giggs, Keane, Scholes and Beckham is perfection. I am so grateful to have seen them play.
De Bruyne, Rodri and Gundogan are superior.
Goodness me can you imagine that. SAFs United vs Peps City. What a game to witness.
No contest, City would annihilate them, it would be a cricket score by half time.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
So you didn't watch both UCL finals in which Pep destroyed him
@@Zarkava8 no likes again😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@virtuallimit3619 so pep got destroyed by thomas tuchel and mourinho in 2010? Got it
3-5-2:
Schmeichel
Stones - Stam - Dias
Silva - Keane - Rodri - KDB - Irwin/Giggs
Håland - Yorke
You need to have Håland and De Bruyne. Rodri, Stones and Dias are also essential, but so are Schmeichel and Stam. The rest are all debatable but Grealish is not getting on the team on the left wing over Irwin or Giggsy. Keane edges it over Gündogan IMO.
I'm not a manu fan, but I don't like disrespecting old team in general.
It's a different era, different styles, and different rule interpretations.
It's not fair really to compare like for like because not all things are even.
I feel for you Jamie. It does hurt to have your entire player career ruined by one single team, and that club being your rival as well :D
Unfortunately wasn’t just United but Chelsea too
Or maybe he’s just being fair, this city team is ridiculous
@@jacobmoore1640 you say that because I know you despise Manchester United and United fans 😁
He's not being fair, he's got the same jealousy as you do :)
@@ashersanjan125 1. I’m literally praising the city team that I don’t even support which makes me the opposite of jealous and 2. I support my local team so don’t care less bout teams like United, you’ve probably never been near old Trafford so me and you are very different maye
@@jacobmoore1640 quite odd of you to say this when you think the Glazers staying is exactly what Manchester United fans deserve 😉
Done this last year for the liverpool quad team vs united treble team 😂😂😂
I can understand his logic on Grealish over Giggs (just, only just) - but gundogan over Scholes is pure madness. Even his logic of ‘goals and appearances’ is immediately thrown in the bin.
"Not texted since 1999" 😂. What a legend Gary is !
This Man City team would wallop that United team 7-1. And I’m a United fan…
Imagine pretending to be a united fan for 3 likes on youtube comments😂😂😂bless you lad. Saying this wont make it true
That cut to Gary’s team is hilarious 😂
I agree with Gary, that midfield was world class, they had everything, from steel to guile and they have the titles to proof it🎈🎈From a Man United life long rival, on top of that they had Sir Alex to steer the ship, Awesome rivals, the best ever 👌
When comparing current teams and teams from the past is always difficult. I think an important question, which is never mentioned, is what era referees are being used. Some tackles now which are given as fouls would not be then. That could make a big difference.
Grealish has only had about 6 good months in a city shirt 😂😂😂
Gary has been friends with Giggs and Scholes since they were 14 years old. They literally grew up together and conquered the world of football. Loyalty before Royalty
You can't take Grealish's G+A and compare it to Giggs. Different era, different systems. Giggs and Beckham aren't "forwards" in a 4-4-2, they are wide midfielders who hold their positions wide. The players that attacked the box are the two strikers and late runners into the box from midfield (mostly Scholes).
The fact that Scholes and Beckham almost have 20 G+A from midfield that season is incredible. Add that to Yorke and Cole who had 20+ G+A each and don't forget Ole Gunnar Solskajer coming from the bench racking up goals as well. It is one of the best attacking teams ever without relying on one or two goalscorers.
You can't compare Yorke's position to KDB either but Neville does it in this segment. The comparisons are unfair in both directions.
You can't even really compare Scholes and Keane to Rodri since they didn't have nearly the same amount of defensive responsibility. Or offensive responsibility for that matter. No United player ever made as many touches and conducted the play of the entire team like Rodri does.
When Gary says 'Unbelievable' 2:53 😭 => Torres goal for Chelsea against FCB flashback and then the 'urggggggg' 😭😭😭
No Giggs and Scholes in Jamie’s team is pure madness
Current City side would absolutely pump 99’ united 6-0.
07/08 utd team toys around with any city team
Whatever helps you sleep at night buddy 😂😂😂city team would get demolished. They couldn’t even beat brentford or everton at home😂😂😂😂
since it was like 20 plus years ago the 90s , but man united from 90s was great i think this man city needs to win a couple more of premier leagues and fa cup . to be in same level (if man city wins the treble in 2023 they will get very close)
In 2004/05, Scholes had more goals & assists then Gerrard. In the same season, Liverpool won the Champions league. By Jamie’s logic, did Scholes have a better season and thus a better player?
The league is insanely waaay more competitive, that utd team would struggle now and not have it as easy as they did back then
Behave
@@iseeyoutoo7899 but it is… any team can beat any team on their day. City has been beaten by Southampton in the fa cup and now they’re being relegated. Brighton lost to Everton but then went on to beat arsenal… the league is completely unpredictable aside from maybe city but even city has been beaten by many lesser teams through the recent years like palace who were a boogy team at one point until literally their last match I’d say. Spurs have always been a boogy team. Utd beat city out of nowhere and then got smashed by Liverpool but then Liverpool got smashed by city but also beat them… I could go on with the weird results which show how much more competitive the league is…
@@fader1912 you said United 99 team would struggle in this league now which they would not
@@iseeyoutoo7899 Yh they would definitely struggle because the league is more competitive. I’m not saying the won’t win I’m saying they will not be able to just walk the league and the same goes for the likes of the invincible… or any other team in prem history. This is a stacked league.. if most of the current top 6 perform… the older lot will be fine yes but they will definitely harder than before. Teams have figured out systems to put together against great players and mark them out of the game. Individual talents are great but they don’t go as far as they used to like back in the day because even lesser teams are so well drilled to get just one point off even the top or even beat them at times on their day.
@@iseeyoutoo7899 I would say nostalgia has got you guys overrating how good the old teams were (no doubt they were amazing) but it has made you think they are untouchable which is really not the case with how good the current era managers are and how well drilled almost every team is.
Grealish over Giggs ! 😂😂😂😂
Giggs was so average I'd take mitoma over him he's like Milner just does his job and bumbles along and gets trophies because of tye team
@@Mabolz.ritchie Oh dear you never watched him
The only person Giggs is over is his brother’s wife
@@Mabolz.ritchie yup. Most assists ever. Most medals of any player ever, won double figures in premier League medals. Definitely similar to milner and definitely not as good as Mitoma. Most average player of all time.
@@Mabolz.ritchie you clearly have never watched Ryan giggs
No mention of Rodri or Ederson. Ederson didn't have Schmeichels presence but for the system his qualities are essential.
Problem of comparing 2 different teams from different eras with different formations. Play a flat 4 or diamond mid and Utd quartet is trained for that. Play a mid 3 and City's players are trained for that.
I think its a futile comparison.
Jamie was a class act here, he recognize it's a dear topic for Gary and was respectful
If I was Carragher, I would have just chosen the whole Utd ‘99 squad, apart from Gary at right back! 😂😂😂
I’m a united fan but I think I’m the only one that actually preferred Yorke over cole as a player but cole I admit was the better goalscorer. Yorke was criminally underrated.
They were a duo like Sutton and Shearer.
You’re definitely not alone mate,
I always felt Yorke was a much better player than cole…
As a Blackburn fan who witnessed that pairing at our club (granted maybe both past their best and not playing for Alex Ferguson) Yorke is the hands down laziest footballer I have ever watched. The highlights reel may look good but out of possession he was terrible. Cole was far better for us.
Gary is right. That midfield of Beckham, Keane, Scholes and Giggs will go down as the best in the Premier league. A Man City fan right here!
Gundogan for Scholes & Grealish for Giggs has to be a wind up. TalkSport level trolling.
Man City midfield is by far better than Man United's.
Whatever helps you sleep at night buddy. Delusional takes are always good for the sleep
@@Johndoe-gf7eu sounds like you would definitely be an expert in that department 👍... United rarely dominated opponents and lack control ...they relied on heart and counter attacks.
Glad people are starting to give Walker the respect he deserves, time and time again he's coming up against electric players and not giving them a kick. He's quality. Nev is still the better pick, but come the end of Walker's career, there'll be a conversation to be had.
Kyle > Gary
Walkers a far better player tbh.
I'd argue that as a defender gary is streets ahead, he did not have the same pace as walker has meaning his positioning has to be a lot stricter in order to not get dumpstered by pacy wingers. Walker for the early part of his career always relied on his pace to get himself out of bad defensive positioning, but has definitely gotten better. Offensively they both use different weapons to devastating degree.
@@mrlalalaelmo7454 gary > kyle
@@hbsblkk3842 nevilles a far better player tbh
Put KDB in midfield and get Dwight Yorke in Carragher's team! 48 goal contributions in 52 games, maybe utd's best player that season!!
My combined 11 for United '99 and City '23 are as follows:
GK: Schmeichel
LB: Irwin CB: Stam and Diaz RB: Kyle Walker
CDM: Keano
Attacking Midfield: De Bruyne and Scholes
Left Wing: Giggsy Right Wing: Beckham
Striker: Haaland
The way Neville degrades his own ability is so crazy to me. You dont win that many league titles whilst being a mainstay, without being great. Walker is never getting into a team over G. Nev.
Because he really wasn't that good. Apart from the financial dopers Man City and Chelsea the rest of the league is far more competitive than Garys era. These days you got newly promoted teams signing keepers from PSG, single clubs spending more money than the Bundesliga/La Liga combined in a transfer window. Prime Gary Neville would get roasted by todays wingers and the dark arts fouls he was allowed to get away with wouldn't work anymore. Walker strolls into that team.
@@yoiamgucci2743😂😂😂😂this made me laugh
@@yoiamgucci2743 you don't know ball
@@PSRetro_ You don't know ball. Gosh I feel so edgy now.
Walker easily gets over Neville