Everything You Think You Know about Hell is WRONG w/ Jimmy Akin

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  • This clip was taken from a recent livestream with Jimmy Akin. Watch the full interview here: • 10,000 Objections to C...
    In this clip, Jimmy talks about what Hell will really be like. Hint: it's probably not going to be lakes of fire.
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  • @MultiJpad
    @MultiJpad Před rokem +54

    I try to imagine a life without God, it's a nightmare, no truth, no love, no way to move towards God, it's scary.

    • @awuriefnejqwjmnwn4960
      @awuriefnejqwjmnwn4960 Před rokem +9

      100%, and we can see this even among the living. They are not mentally well

    • @bbjornr
      @bbjornr Před 3 měsíci

      it's actually really great and freeing!

    • @wet-read
      @wet-read Před 3 měsíci

      This notion is incomprehensible to me. Each of us probably thinks the other is metaphysically challenged. Whatever.

    • @aleksander4711
      @aleksander4711 Před měsícem

      It is possible with a little of intellectual honesty. Whether believer or not you are limited to the ones that are closest. You have nothing to offer as everyone else for those out of your circle of interest.

  • @rumrunner8019
    @rumrunner8019 Před 2 lety +58

    As a child of the late 80s early 90s, I never imagined Hell as being a place of fire. Instead, I imagined it being a dark place of leather-bound demons torturing people who played with the wrong puzzle box.

  • @theamericanfarmstead131
    @theamericanfarmstead131 Před 2 lety +14

    God is so good! Just yesterday my husband and I were discussing this very topic and pondering the justice of hell, especially as it seems so unjust to our incompetent understanding... how perfect for you to post this video, thank you Matt Fradd and Jimmy Akin! May God continue to bless you and your work!

    • @espositogregory
      @espositogregory Před 2 lety +10

      God sends no one to hell. But countless people choose hell and send themselves there. We either love God and follow Him or we reject God’s laws and send ourselves to hell. One cannot “love” God but reject His teachings.

    • @carollyon4755
      @carollyon4755 Před 2 lety

      @@espositogregory Amen.

  • @utubeskreename9516
    @utubeskreename9516 Před 2 lety +24

    The general consensus by Bible theologian commentators has historically been that when the Bible IS being figurative, using natural/physical descriptions for something, it is WAY BETTER than the positive described or WAY WORSE than the negative described... think about that one for a second.

    • @michaelanthony4750
      @michaelanthony4750 Před 3 měsíci

      You could somewhat imagine it. Imagine being burned by fire but consoled by God's love vs no fire and experiencing no love or happiness and being alone by yourself forever.

  • @christianf5131
    @christianf5131 Před 2 lety +41

    Even if hell isn’t literal fire, emotional torture would be horrible too. I don’t know that this makes me feel any better about hell and my fear of going there

    • @SheepofChrist818
      @SheepofChrist818 Před 7 měsíci +4

      God made it so we don’t have to fear. Salvation is literally a free gift. All you have to do is receive it by faith. Trust in Jesus alone for salvation and you are saved and sealed forever.

    • @reokagro
      @reokagro Před 7 měsíci

      @@SheepofChrist818cant force your heart to believe and its not free you have to repent from sin which this world is full of and live your life a certain way limiting basically everything nowadays just simply trusting in god and believing doesnt mean your saved

    • @SheepofChrist818
      @SheepofChrist818 Před 7 měsíci +2

      @@reokagro The Bible literally says believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved (Acts 16:30-31). Repenting of sins is works. Obeying the law. Changing your works. God doesn’t require that.

    • @reokagro
      @reokagro Před 7 měsíci +4

      @@SheepofChrist818 he says if you love god you will follow his law and repent from sin. you are just twisting the words to justify you being able to do whatever you want but because you believe in god you will go to heaven no matter what

    • @SheepofChrist818
      @SheepofChrist818 Před 7 měsíci

      @@reokagro Do you love God to go to Heaven? Or do you believe? Loving God is a work. God doesn’t need your works. He only requires Faith. You are condemned because you don’t believe (John 3:18). You’re slandering me just like Paul was slandered.
      “And not rather, (as we be slanderously reported, and as some affirm that we say,) Let us do evil, that good may come? whose damnation is just.” ‭‭Romans‬ ‭3‬:‭8‬ ‭KJV‬‬

  • @allisonfogarty2822
    @allisonfogarty2822 Před 2 lety +228

    When listening to Jimmy's description, I immediately thought of Our Lady of Fatima. I went and read Sr Lucia's account of the vision of hell that Our Lady showed the seers and it is not a place of "feeling" that Jimmy appears to describe as hell, it is way worse... I think I will defer to Our Lady and not the modern mentality of Hell.

    • @rosemaryfernandez3197
      @rosemaryfernandez3197 Před 2 lety +56

      Yes. Also, so many, many others Saints have actually seen hell as physical fire as well. I find this argument very modernist and not meshing completely with Church teaching.

    • @joechriste7052
      @joechriste7052 Před 2 lety +79

      What if those visions of hell show physical fire to these people so that they are able to mentally grasp the reality of the painful truth about it? Like angels appearing to look like men so that they are easier for our human minds to accept. God appears to Moses in the burning bush, because it’s not possible for men to look upon God and live. It is entirely possible for them to be shown an image of hell, that is easier for the human mind to comprehend as God has done throughout history of divine revelation.

    • @NaruIchiLuffy
      @NaruIchiLuffy Před 2 lety +24

      I'll tell you what psychological or physical, matters little to me, both versions of hell sound hellish and practically speaking I wouldn't want a part in either.

    • @Kyntai
      @Kyntai Před 2 lety

      I thought of the exact same thing.

    • @seanthompson5077
      @seanthompson5077 Před 2 lety +21

      WHAT??? It’s a symbol?? That’s not what the Lord taught. The rich man cried out and said, “Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, for I am in anguish in this flame.” This is our Lord speaking. Is the Eucharist only a symbol? God is both merciful and just, but Hell has been watered down lately.

  • @johnclark1371
    @johnclark1371 Před 2 lety +12

    Thank you. Very well explained. I’ve found a hell on earth when I have knowingly separated myself from God. That separation has always caused intense psychological pain. Fortunately, God always welcomes us back after we have fallen away.

  • @jtparker9890
    @jtparker9890 Před 2 lety +4

    You're the man Matt! Prayers for you and the family.

  • @itinerantpatriot1196
    @itinerantpatriot1196 Před 2 lety +13

    Hell is an absence of God. I experienced that in this life and it is an awful way to live. To spend an eternity away from God? There's no fire needed to make the suffering any worse. That is why I beg forgiveness and trust in His redemption. God wants us with Him. The question then becomes; is that where we want to be?

  • @pstrzel
    @pstrzel Před 2 lety +30

    Imagine being in an unfulfilled state of hatred and rage, envy, pride, lust, and an overwhelming experience of despair and loss because of the lack of any hope. That's how I think of the fire of hell.

    • @awuriefnejqwjmnwn4960
      @awuriefnejqwjmnwn4960 Před rokem +1

      Agreed, and it is reflected in real life. I have met alot of people who are on antidepressants, none of them christians. Being hopeless will cause your torment, its utterly self inflicted

  • @benbing3926
    @benbing3926 Před 9 měsíci +5

    Very good explanation. I think that a big problem that I have is that I'm constantly grappling with scrupulosity, distraction, not trusting in God enough... and I essentially act like I'm in Hell. However, I'm not in Hell (and I certainly don't want to go to Hell), I'm on Earth, and I need to and strive to embrace God, INCLUDING the positive and joyful parts of that embrace.

    • @user-rz8wn5zu6y
      @user-rz8wn5zu6y Před měsícem

      I don't think humans know anything about reality or god..source..whatever you want to call it. I dont feel it's a person I can hug.

  • @nelsondantas3040
    @nelsondantas3040 Před 2 lety +10

    Jimmy Akin seems to completely dilute the severity of hell! St Faustina n St John Bosco have well n truly explained what hell looks like in reality!🙏🙏

  • @danieldimitri6133
    @danieldimitri6133 Před 2 lety +64

    Some months ago i experienced a feeling of a lack of love or a lack of a connection with god for a few days. I remember years ago catholic religious groups would distribute audio tapes of exercisms and during one a demon said that the worst part was being cut off from god or gods love. That's the only way i could describe what i felt and i think it was a great grace or warning to me that i needed to do better. When i discussed this with a friend she said she experienced something similar when she imagined what if it really was all evolution etc... And that yet another friend of hers said they felt it all at a time period slightly prior to my experience. Very strange. An acquaintance who was athiest seemed to have some spiritual curiosity around this time. I hate to seem too paranoid about the end times. But i think god is getting us ready. I think this youtube channel is helping many people.

    • @csongorarpad4670
      @csongorarpad4670 Před 2 lety +13

      God has always set out to get us ready, as it is always the time for somebody... Now, whether it's on a grander scale, it's for the best not to think about it and simply do what must be done regardless.

    • @beatlecristian
      @beatlecristian Před 2 lety +7

      The day that we die is a lot closer than Jesus coming on the clouds so I would worry about the end of my life more because then I can get ready for Jesus’ second coming at the end of my life.

    • @danieldimitri6133
      @danieldimitri6133 Před 2 lety +8

      Actually scriture says he'll gome like a theif in the night and no man will know the day nor the hour.

    • @beatlecristian
      @beatlecristian Před 2 lety +4

      @@danieldimitri6133 Jesus is coming when we die so why do I need to worry about the End Times when we’re not even promised tomorrow?
      Is worry about this going to get you to Heaven?

    • @Darth_Vader258
      @Darth_Vader258 Před rokem

      @@beatlecristian My prayer to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ ✝️ is to DIE sooner. So that I *DON'T* OFFEND Him any more, and possibly end up in Hell. But the Lord probably won't grant this, since it will DEVASTATE my LOVED ones.

  • @jeffwalczak1003
    @jeffwalczak1003 Před 2 lety +10

    Hellfire is much worse than literal earth fire. Hellfire burns souls.

  • @ThePhilosorpheus
    @ThePhilosorpheus Před 2 lety +10

    I dont see it necessarily as an either/or question. It could be fire AND an emotional state of the soul. The most compelling description of hell for me is that the very fire of God's love burns like the fires of hell to those who reject God. It's the same fire. The fire of love is not a literal fire, but the analogy is more than mere poetry, it feels like fire in a very real sense.

  • @Jacob-lt8de
    @Jacob-lt8de Před 2 lety +69

    Jimmy's great! Definitely disagree with him here. It's not a straw-man to describe Hell as unending fire/torment especially when that's the exact language Jesus Christ used. The straw-man is "God's going to send me to Hell because I jerked off", that's what Matt was trying to get at, but I think Jimmy got stuck on the hellfire bit and missed the actual hang-up which is the seeming inequality with the crime and it's punishment.

    • @jabelltulsa
      @jabelltulsa Před 2 lety +6

      Agreed. I'd like him to carry on from Matt's point. I'd really like to hear that.

    • @verum-in-omnibus1035
      @verum-in-omnibus1035 Před 2 lety +18

      Jimmy describes hell as basically something is just a bit uncomfortable - making Christ and the Church liars. Modernist want to tiptoe a bit softly softly around dogma, and it only serves to turn people away. This whole episode was like that.

    • @jabelltulsa
      @jabelltulsa Před 2 lety +5

      @@verum-in-omnibus1035 that was my thought as well. I think the inadequacy of our language to describe Hell is only deficient in illustrating how much more awful it must be. Further, the must be some sort physical effect as well, as we will be Untied body and soul after the final judgement.

    • @joechriste7052
      @joechriste7052 Před 2 lety +3

      Yeah, my question to Jimmy would be, so what happens when those souls in Hell are reunited with their bodies on the last day? Does the fire become more literal then because now they have physical bodies again?

    • @fringednomad2229
      @fringednomad2229 Před 2 lety +1

      @Brian Farley how is he trolling? Watch the video he posted. Akins is a weird dude and not really someone I would recommend listening to.

  • @hellene3546
    @hellene3546 Před 2 lety +6

    The other way to understand hell is the Orthodox viewpoint that hell is not a physical place or a realm that is void of God, since God is omnipresent. God is Good. He is pure. As Jimmy says, hell is a state of separating oneself from God. What is experienced as hell by an unrepentant soul is God's presence. His Spirit being pure and the revealer of everything will feel like fire to the sinful soul and pleasant to the repentant one. Heaven are Hell are both in God's presence

    • @thinkaboutit8653
      @thinkaboutit8653 Před 2 lety +5

      Agreed. This is the simplest way and what I believe is the most accurate explanation 👏

    • @sebastiangiucastro2426
      @sebastiangiucastro2426 Před 2 lety +5

      This is perfect. I’m a Catholic and I’m shocked to see so many Catholics believe hell to be a literal fire. I would argue this is a pagan idea. 👍🏽

  • @americanrefugee6756
    @americanrefugee6756 Před 2 lety +4

    The difference is between those sinners who DO REPENT and those sinners who do not.
    Our LORD does not condemn us for sinning. Rather, we condemn ourselves for failing to REPENT.
    R-E-P-E-N-T therefore, and be blessed.
    🌹✝️💪🏻

    • @AJ_Jingco
      @AJ_Jingco Před rokem

      ​@@EduardoRodriguez-du2vd You will have CONSEQUENCES for your SIN on this Earth.

  • @Damian1975
    @Damian1975 Před 2 lety +1

    Thankyou. That was helpful.

  • @pilgrim3387
    @pilgrim3387 Před 2 lety +6

    I'd love if the same question was put to Ralph Martin. I'd bet he'd say it involves real fire. Also there is a small museum in Rome, Piccolo Museo Del Purgatorio, or “Museum of the Holy Souls in Purgatory,” it holds a collection of scorched handprints and other items believed to be from souls seeking prayers and masses from their loved ones.

  • @majorpuggington
    @majorpuggington Před 2 lety +4

    As people of faith, we KNOW by SUPERNATURAL FAITH, that God never errs, that people go to hell by their own choice, that God's mercy will not fail us if our life has as its core goal, k owing, loving and serving God. Seeking to live in the Divine Will. Say your rosary daily and do not be afraid. God wants you in heaven more even than you want to be there.

  • @alexchristopher221
    @alexchristopher221 Před 2 lety +6

    An EO exorcist priest once asked the devil whether the souls in Hell are literally burning alive. The devil told him that what takes place is that the light of God sears the conscience forever.

    • @xpictos777
      @xpictos777 Před 8 měsíci

      This is more likely correct. God is everywhere, as with normal fire it can provide warmth, light and beauty or searing pain. It just depends on our orientation toward it.

  • @masterofblabber367
    @masterofblabber367 Před 3 měsíci

    Found this insightful, thank you so much!

  • @JimCvit
    @JimCvit Před 2 lety +47

    I'm glad you posted this snippet. It's been on my mind since I watched it. I'm a huge fan of Jimmy. He's one of the best if not the best out there. But...I think he's wrong on this one. His point here is that hell isn't really what Scripture says. To me that's the same as a Protestant saying the Eucharist is just a symbol. I know he goes solely from scripture but in this case I think script is right. Yes, I'm basing it off some private revelations from St Catherine of Siena in ten Dialogues recorded in four parts.
    On a side note regarding Aquinas saying that a a fire can burn a non-material soul can be 100% right. God can do that. He is omnipotent. To say otherwise says that God can't do it and that is foolish. I think Jimmy needs to rethink his case on this one. Also, one of the things that the catechism says is that hell is a state of separation. For non-material souls that state can be a state of a place.
    "So I say to you, that in Hell, the souls have four principal torments, out of which proceed all the other torments. The first is, that they see themselves deprived of the vision of Me, which is such pain to them, that, were it possible, they would rather choose the fire, and the tortures and torments, and to see Me, than to be without the torments and not to see Me.
    This first pain revives in them, then, the second, the worm of Conscience, which gnaws unceasingly, seeing that the soul is deprived of Me, and of the conversation of the angels, through her sin, made worthy of the conversation and sight of the devils, which vision of the Devil is the third pain and redoubles to them their every toil.
    "The fourth torment that they have is the fire. This fire burns and does not consume, for the being of the soul cannot be consumed, because it is not a material thing that fire can consume. But I, by Divine justice, have permitted the fire to burn them with torments, so that it torments them, without consuming them, with the greatest pains in diverse ways according to the diversity of their sins, to some more, and to some less, according to the gravity of their fault."
    Let's also not forget Fatima in which Our Lady showed the children hell and told them to pray "save us from the fires of hell." Every saint who has been given these graces all agree: there is fire in hell. Our Lord attested to that.

    • @Sonnyjune69
      @Sonnyjune69 Před 2 lety +4

      Most Protestants I know don’t believe the Eucharist/Communion is ONLY a symbol - we believe spiritual things are occurring - but we do believe that the bread and wine remain bread and wine rather than somehow literally becoming Christ’s body/blood. There is a lot of nuance between Catholic and Protestant views of the Eucharist, but actually much more similarities than most people realize.

    • @JimCvit
      @JimCvit Před 2 lety +2

      @@Sonnyjune69 yea I agree with that. I was just used that because it’s easier to understand that’s all.

    • @bethanyann1060
      @bethanyann1060 Před 2 lety +2

      I agree. I think it is more prudent to go with what Scripture and the saints say. Although Jimmy would say we’re not obliged to believe private revelations.

    • @fringednomad2229
      @fringednomad2229 Před 2 lety +5

      I used to really like Jimmy Akin. But he has been saying a lot of stuff that goes against scripture and what the Saints have taught. And with his past statements and beliefs, I just don’t trust the guy anymore.

    • @JimCvit
      @JimCvit Před 2 lety +1

      @@bethanyann1060 then you have Scripture

  • @anonymouscrank
    @anonymouscrank Před 2 lety +2

    Abject hopelessness--despair beyond any experienced in this life as the soul knows it is without end.

  • @NomosCharis
    @NomosCharis Před 2 lety +3

    "How can a physical fire affect a soul?"
    An objection that only has relevance during the intermediate state. What about the future resurrection of the dead?

    • @awb07d
      @awb07d Před 2 lety +1

      Better question, how does he know fire doesn’t affect the soul? Think about it our souls affect our bodies and our bodies affect the souls. So if our material bodies can affect our souls what’s to say other material things don’t have some kind of effect

  • @donaldmartineau8176
    @donaldmartineau8176 Před 2 lety +5

    Never water down Hell!

  • @AJ_Jingco
    @AJ_Jingco Před rokem +4

    *MANY* will go to Hell, and so *FEW* go to Heaven. But the *MAJORITY* of Mankind goes to Purgatory.

  • @NorthCountry84
    @NorthCountry84 Před 2 lety +1

    Great clip burn it would be way more awesome to have a full episode on hell or at least all the last things

  • @mariobaratti2985
    @mariobaratti2985 Před 2 lety +41

    I must disagree with this one, also because it directly contradicts visions of saints like John Bosco. And I fear many times we don't want to see how terrible hell really is because we are afraid but the fact the hell is with fire is an euphism in my opinion.
    Souls cannot be put on fire, it's true; but our bodies will resurrect. Before that it's likely those souls will suffer hallucinations and spiritual torments, something like deep terrible depression sadness and desperation. Then once the bodies are resurrected, of course you'll have fire. Fire and way worse; visions of Saints report all kind of horrible tortures and torments to the damned. If you read the Gospel of Matthew it's hard to not see this coming tbh

    • @manny4012
      @manny4012 Před 2 lety +7

      Even though we visualize fire when we think of hell we have to remember that it’s not the only way hell is described in scripture. It’s also described as a cold and/or dark place.

    • @mariobaratti2985
      @mariobaratti2985 Před 2 lety

      @@manny4012 yes it's all of those thing together

    • @andrewt.2850
      @andrewt.2850 Před 2 lety +4

      The fire of hell is a spiritual fire, lit by God's anger. This fire will burn the soul in ways that fire on earth cannot.

    • @abelovedchildofgod7383
      @abelovedchildofgod7383 Před 2 lety +3

      The St Vincent Ferra who had the vision of hell say that the fire on this earth is cool compared to the fire of hell.

    • @mattmalcolm534
      @mattmalcolm534 Před 2 lety

      Exactly, I was wondering why Jimmy assumed we are only talking about the timeframe between death and the General Judgment. Since the afterlife is eternal, nearly all of that time will be spent united with our bodies.

  • @IONov990
    @IONov990 Před 2 lety +8

    Is heaven a literal place?
    I imagine tasting the most fully ripe fruit, smelling and looking at the most beautiful red roses, and being in my physical prime

    • @majorpuggington
      @majorpuggington Před 2 lety

      It is beyond all imagining and many mystics have talked about the brilliance of light, color, familiar objects etc.

    • @IONov990
      @IONov990 Před 2 lety

      @@majorpuggington I would love to see Our Lady. She has been described as beyond beautiful 😍. I wonder how beautiful Eve is. Both women were personally handcrafted by the hands of God.
      I want to enjoy the music in heaven, the rainbow, and God is the original artist.

    • @Sonnyjune69
      @Sonnyjune69 Před 2 lety

      What do you think the Resurrection of believers is suggesting? Believers will be resurrected with redeemed bodies and there will be a new heavens and a new earth. Most Scriptural evidence supports our spirits and bodies being redeemed together.

    • @IONov990
      @IONov990 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Sonnyjune69 I cannot wait to hear the music of heaven. Even the most highly sensitive and musically inclined person cannot compose heavenly music

  • @Electric_
    @Electric_ Před 9 měsíci +2

    Even if it’s not literal fire, the overall pain is on par with literal fire according to the Holy Bible, which is why it uses fiery language to describe it. I don’t think God is understating hell. Therefore, we need to do whatever we can to avoid it.

  • @thegoldendojoloach6832

    Clip about liking and subscribing at the end made me chuckle.

  • @gregw74
    @gregw74 Před rokem +3

    I wish Jimmy would have elaborated on how hell might be "experienced" relative to eternity. If there isn't any "sense" of time in hell because there is no time to be experienced (a finite created thing) then I would assume it's experienced as a perpetual now or moment. In other words, the experience of hell isn't subject to the sensation of time given that "time" (as we experience now, a finite creation) will no longer exist. Does that make sense?

  • @m.935
    @m.935 Před 2 lety +5

    As far as my understanding goes, we don't go to hell because we masturbated or whatever the sin we committed (although we should, and people did before Jesus), but because we don't accept the Mercy of Jesus. To accept mercy one must open their heart, and we do that by the sacrament of reconciliation (with Jesus).
    If we look at the example of Judas and Peter, they both betrayed Jesus, but one of them didn't reconcile with Him. Didn't accept mercy and love from Jesus, but judged himself to death (instead of letting God to be the judge, because we have no right to judge ourselves as much as the others).
    The more often we reconcile with Him, the less is likely it for us to fall back into sin, but if we do, sin becomes harder:
    “When an unclean spirit goes out of a person it roams through arid regions searching for rest but finds none.
    44Then it says, ‘I will return to my home from which I came.’ But upon returning, it finds it empty, swept clean, and put in order.
    45Then it goes and brings back with itself seven other spirits more evil than itself, and they move in and dwell there, and the last condition of that person is worse than the first. Thus it will be with this evil generation.”
    Matthew 12:43

    • @2ndSentinel
      @2ndSentinel Před 2 lety

      When we knowingly sin against God (fornication/masturbation) reject the grace of reconciliation, and fail to amend our lives....yes, we do go to hell. Free will and choices have consequences.

  • @SammytheStampede
    @SammytheStampede Před 2 lety +7

    I like what Christ said about Hell. You can’t say it more clearly.

  • @SevenDeMagnus
    @SevenDeMagnus Před 2 lety

    Thsnks sir Jim

  • @jakelivingstone5747
    @jakelivingstone5747 Před 2 lety +16

    To frame Aquinas' idea of literal fire affecting the soul as stupid is completely unfair. The countless testimony of the saints and Scripture tells us of a literal fire. Also, the fact that we will have Resurrected bodies refutes Akin's entire argument.
    "He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. His winnowing fan is in His hand, and He will thoroughly clean out His threshing floor, and gather His wheat into the barn; but He will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire.” -Matthew 3:11-12
    "The sea gave up the dead who were in it, and Death and Hades delivered up the dead who were in them. And they were judged, each one according to his works. Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death. And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire." -Apocalypse 20:13-15

    • @MZONE991
      @MZONE991 Před 2 lety +1

      a good question to bring up : if the fire of the holy spirit is not a literal fire? why would the fire of hell be literal?
      if water flowing out of our belly is non-literal why would the lake of fire be literal?

    • @tonyaiello5776
      @tonyaiello5776 Před 2 lety

      Akins argument makes much more sense especially seeing that scripture uses different metaphorical language to talk about the experience of hell. Aquinas and many saints lived in the Middle Ages so it’s not surprising their opinions were more morbid than ours

    • @jakelivingstone5747
      @jakelivingstone5747 Před 2 lety +2

      @@MZONE991 It's not airtight logic to suggest because there is metaphorical language in one passage, it is therefore metaphorical in another passage. The way the Church has always talked about Hell includes both spiritual and physical torment. Hell's worst torment is spiritual, having no hope of the beatific vision, but is also physical since we are body/soul composite.

    • @tonyaiello5776
      @tonyaiello5776 Před 2 lety

      @@jakelivingstone5747 if you dig to the center of the earth you find the earths core, if you leave the atmosphere you find space not heaven to where do these spiritual planes exist literally?

    • @tonyaiello5776
      @tonyaiello5776 Před 2 lety

      @YAJUN YUAN so the soul just waits around in the grave until the final judgment then gets tossed into the pit?

  • @brianw.5230
    @brianw.5230 Před 2 lety +24

    The Church has been "watering down" the topic of Hell for a long time. Regarldess of what it is exactly, it's horrible and we should avoid it.

    • @partydean17
      @partydean17 Před 2 lety +3

      The church has not been watering it down. Islam, greeks,, and Dante's inferno did most of the torture pit building. The church is trying to keeping things consistent with what Jesus said about being the only way to eternal life

    • @brianw.5230
      @brianw.5230 Před 2 lety +6

      @@partydean17 lots of saints saw horrible visions of Hell. Fatima, Saint Teresa of Avila, Saint Faustina, Saint John Boscoe, etc.
      I never hear priests give homilies on Hell anymore.

    • @maxamahnken7325
      @maxamahnken7325 Před rokem

      Wrong. False.

    • @thyikmnnnn
      @thyikmnnnn Před rokem +1

      @@brianw.5230Since when had ‘visions of saints’ been infallible ?

    • @brianw.5230
      @brianw.5230 Před rokem

      @thyikmnnnn they're not but I believe them.

  • @pop6997
    @pop6997 Před 2 lety +47

    I like Saint John Henry Newmans way of articulating the last things, as they make the most sense to me in relation to our loving and merciful Father.

    • @Sonnyjune69
      @Sonnyjune69 Před 2 lety +9

      He is as equally loving and merciful as he is wrathful and holy against sin.

    • @arthurdanzi404
      @arthurdanzi404 Před 2 lety

      How does he do it?

    • @bman5257
      @bman5257 Před 10 měsíci

      @@Sonnyjune69In a certain since I don’t want to create inequalities in God, but I would agree with CS Lewis that Hell is finite and Heaven is infinite. Hell can not do hell as well as Heaven can do Heaven. A butterfly from heaven could swallow up all of hell.

    • @Sonnyjune69
      @Sonnyjune69 Před 10 měsíci +1

      @@bman5257 What do we do with the Scriptures that say the lake of fire is eternal? Do we just say nahhh it's not actually, because we have a nicer way of looking at it?

    • @bman5257
      @bman5257 Před 10 měsíci

      @@Sonnyjune69 I’m not referring to duration. I’m referring to size and magnitude. I think Hell is of infinite duration but the lake of fire is a metaphor. If it were literal than how would it be the “outer darkness”. A lake made of literal fire that contained all the danmed, would not be dark, that would be extremely bright.

  • @electrifiedspam
    @electrifiedspam Před 2 lety +1

    We could borrow from Plato and say that the fore is the ultimate realization of 'fireness.'
    That would burn anything.

  • @johncopper5128
    @johncopper5128 Před rokem

    Thank you.

  • @psallen5099
    @psallen5099 Před 2 lety +5

    You can choose between divine revelation or human understanding through Jimmy Akin. Theologians over think everything to no effect. Mark 9:46, Jesus Christ says about hell: "Where THEIR WORM dies not, and the fire is not quenched." That's all you need to know.

    • @partydean17
      @partydean17 Před 2 lety +1

      Really? Because that describes a well kept garden with a tiki torch around

  • @2ndSentinel
    @2ndSentinel Před 2 lety +26

    I think we should side with scripture and the personal accounts/revelations of saints rather than the opinion of Jimmy Akin!

    • @MZONE991
      @MZONE991 Před 2 lety +4

      Scripture does not explicitly talk about the fire of hell being literal
      plus the visions of the saints could be symbolic like the vision of Isaiah in God's throne room
      but of course neither position is heretical, the Church accepts both and you are free to choose.

    • @2ndSentinel
      @2ndSentinel Před 2 lety +3

      @@MZONE991 Fairly certain that scripture does not explicitly talk about the fires of hell as being metaphorical or symbolic.
      When it's repeatedly mentioned in both scripture and in private revalation, I'll err on side of caution.
      Also, the notion that the fires are just metaphorical or symbolic is an insult to all those who have had the experience of seeing it. I don't recall any private relation from a Saint or otherwise who stated afterward that the vision of fire was merely symbolic.
      Lastly, I would also not put God into a box based on the known physical world we're accustomed to. If God wills to have a plain of existance void of his presence that contains fire which consumes souls in perpetuity.......than he can.

    • @2ndSentinel
      @2ndSentinel Před 2 lety +1

      @@MZONE991 Also, metaphors and symbolism neither purify nor torment.

    • @MZONE991
      @MZONE991 Před 2 lety +1

      @@2ndSentinel
      what torments and what purifies is greater than the physical ;)

  • @defendthesaints847
    @defendthesaints847 Před 2 lety +15

    Many saints had visons of hell. At fatima our lady showed the children hell. See God doesnt want no one to go to hell. He wants us in heaven.
    The fatima prayer o my jesus forgive us our sins save us from the fires of hell especially those in most need of thy mercy amen.

    • @defendthesaints847
      @defendthesaints847 Před 2 lety +3

      I know this is considered private revelations but the bible talks about hell to

    • @tomsmith8503
      @tomsmith8503 Před 2 lety

      True...and Saint Faustina's description of hell is almost identical to the children of Fatima. They correspond to our Lord's repeated references to the fires of hell.

  • @linopaul
    @linopaul Před 2 lety +5

    I prefer to listen to people who the church officially called Saints. In that case before the Supreme judge I can at least beg that I got it wrong because I took Your words literally and listened to people who Your church titled- Saints.

  • @ryanpope7891
    @ryanpope7891 Před 2 lety +6

    I'd like to see Jimmy interact with Dr. David Bentley Hart's arguments - mainly, how can a finite, rational being incur an INFINITE penalty for a finite decision made with imperfect knowledge?

    • @cookielemons
      @cookielemons Před 2 lety +3

      That's not even the only or the best of Hart's arguments.

    • @ryanpope7891
      @ryanpope7891 Před 2 lety

      @@cookielemons Exactly!

    • @nicolamcostello
      @nicolamcostello Před 2 lety

      Human beings have the capability to make permanent decisions with full knowledge.

    • @ryanpope7891
      @ryanpope7891 Před 2 lety +1

      @@nicolamcostello What human being has full knowledge of the divine?

    • @nicolamcostello
      @nicolamcostello Před 2 lety

      @@ryanpope7891 none. That's not the issue. Human beings can make permanent decisions with full knowledge of what they are doing. It doesn't take full knowledge of God to have full knowledge about an earthly moral decision.

  • @ClassicalTheist
    @ClassicalTheist Před 2 lety +2

    It’s not so much that Jimmy is wrong about the core of what Hell is, he is accurately describing the principal pain of Hell (pain of loss)
    But there’s no reason to think this principal pain wouldn’t also be reflected in the physical realm, in order to signify the spiritual reality of this pain of loss. This is true for glorified bodies which signify the immaterial glory of the soul, so why shouldn’t the inverse (pain of loss) also be signified in the body?

  • @prodigaldawtr7907
    @prodigaldawtr7907 Před 2 lety +5

    I "liked" the video bc this is an important topic. But I really disagree with the points made here. I'm gonna go with the literal words of scripture and the visions of the saints on this one. It's frightening and off-putting for sure when talking to ppl, but I think we need to error on the side of caution here. Take it as seriously as possible, you know?

  • @user-np8nr5uw3r
    @user-np8nr5uw3r Před 3 měsíci +1

    Jimmy citing JPII that he’ll isn’t beneath us under the earth is contrary to what is taught to us by Our Lady of Fatima.

  • @gph752
    @gph752 Před 2 lety +3

    I don’t know but lots of Saint and mystics have described hell and it seems like it’s gonna be fiery existence full of flames and the stench of burning sulfur 🤷🏼‍♂️ just saying.

  • @jamaquinabella3378
    @jamaquinabella3378 Před rokem +6

    I died and went to hell at the age of 17. Hell is extremely horrible . Its a place of weeping and gnashing of teeth as the Bible says.. I remember it like it was yesterday , I had gone to visit an Aunt of mine .. I sat talking to her for a moment then she left the room , as soon as she left , I was attacked by an unseen entity. It wrapped it's cold , steel hands around my neck and began strangling me . I fought with this unseen entity but fought a losing battle.. I travelled at lightening speed through a dark tunnel. It was like I was being carried by a whirlwind... I abruptly landed in an extremely dark place.. The air was so hot and I was unable to breathe , I was gasping for breath .. I was beyond terrified . I could hear the terrifying screams of people, it was like a multitude of voices all screaming at once , I heard weeping and wailings.. I knew I was in hell , and I cried out to God. I said God please save me I don't want to go to hell. As soon as I said this I was transported back to my Aunt's place.. God is a merciful God and He hears our cries.. God didn't create hell for us , He created it for the devil and his fallen angels.. Anyone who rejects Jesus Christ and anyone who abuses God's grace will go to hell which was created for the devil and his demons , anywhere your Master is , is where you will go...

  • @ProdDC-tg7rl
    @ProdDC-tg7rl Před 2 lety +4

    A finite sin could never justify an infinite punishment.

    • @vivacristorey1853
      @vivacristorey1853 Před 2 lety +1

      No sin is finite because the One offended is infinite.

    • @ProdDC-tg7rl
      @ProdDC-tg7rl Před 2 lety +1

      @@vivacristorey1853 And the one who is offended has an infinite propensity to forgive us and love us. Such that he wouldn't think of sick, sadistic, and ever creative ways to eternally punish us because we just so happened to be put in an environment in which we are guaranteed to fail him.
      Also if every sin is infinite based on it's offense. Then the ultimate offense or injustice was Christs crucifixion yet Christ said forgive them.

    • @vivacristorey1853
      @vivacristorey1853 Před 2 lety +2

      @@ProdDC-tg7rl There is no sadism in God. And I agree that God is infinite mercy. Hell is for those who refuse His mercy. Also side note: I’m not here in the comments as a know it all or to win an argument. I’m here respectfully and humbly in a sense ;). Do you believe there even is a hell?

    • @vivacristorey1853
      @vivacristorey1853 Před 2 lety

      @@ProdDC-tg7rl and another side note: I’m also not here to get into a huge debate or long back and forth. If my replies stop please don’t take it the wrong way. I hope you are well and God smiles on you forever!!

    • @ProdDC-tg7rl
      @ProdDC-tg7rl Před 2 lety +1

      @@vivacristorey1853 I believe in the hell that st Gregory of Nyssa believed in. Not the doctrine that developed later on.

  • @erinreilly33
    @erinreilly33 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Exactly. It’s like the ultimate desperation for all eternity.
    What shocks me is the demons saw everything all in an instant, chose to disobey God, and would do it again and again and again if presented with the same choice. They don’t choose like humans do. They knowingly choose, knowing all the outcomes.

  • @adestefideles9042
    @adestefideles9042 Před 2 lety +2

    Even if Hell is what Jimmy says it is, it's way worse than just being burned by fire.

  • @johannakunze3300
    @johannakunze3300 Před 2 lety +1

    Depression is hell imho

  • @360decrees2
    @360decrees2 Před 2 lety +2

    Maybe souls in Hell run _into_ the fire in an attempt to distract themselves from the spiritual torment they feel.

  • @NotFromConcentrate
    @NotFromConcentrate Před 2 lety +1

    On the other hand the amount of time souls will be hell without a body isn’t even a nanosecond in terms of eternity.

  • @carolroselli5853
    @carolroselli5853 Před 2 lety

    This is for Dom...what region of Italy is your ancestry? We live in Le Marches and enjoy following the podcasts. Great stuff!

  • @peterchanel8044
    @peterchanel8044 Před 2 lety +1

    What to do? Do I believe Jimmy (or) Jesus, Padre Pio, Mother Mary, St Faustina, St John Bosco et al.

  • @daddydaycareah3994
    @daddydaycareah3994 Před 2 lety +1

    The problem with the arguments against the truth of the theology of hell, is the humanistic manner of the approach. Good according to whom?
    Is God not just?
    Is he going to judge someone falsely?
    According to the faith, we choose hell

  • @zeap87
    @zeap87 Před 2 lety +1

    But what happens when the resurrection of the body takes place? Then Hell will have to be physical place… Right?

  • @laymanchristian1138
    @laymanchristian1138 Před 2 lety

    Well said jimmy 👍

  • @garybrown2039
    @garybrown2039 Před 2 lety +2

    Isn’t the states of Limbo as well as Purgatory also a factor in this and is relevant to the question?

  • @lynxrufus2007
    @lynxrufus2007 Před 3 měsíci

    For me a good analogy of hell is 'broken heart'. When you can't see the person you love (or are in love with), you feel a terrible fire in your heart. So hell is this times infinity.

  • @UnschoolingtheSpitz
    @UnschoolingtheSpitz Před rokem +1

    Sooo FYI to anyone listening to this with children. . .NOT for children. Had alot of explaining to do after the first 30 seconds

  • @cafecomescrita
    @cafecomescrita Před 2 lety +52

    It is literally fire consuming souls. Reality doesn't change because it sounds strange to modern audiences.

    • @kauekodama3234
      @kauekodama3234 Před 2 lety +6

      Yes, exactly. Jimmy and Matt Fradd are doing a disservice here by twisting the meaning of such an important part of the revelation and misinforming people.

    • @scsteeldrums
      @scsteeldrums Před 2 lety +11

      I've been burned in fire, and I've felt separation from God, and separation from God was worse.

    • @kauekodama3234
      @kauekodama3234 Před 2 lety +3

      @@scsteeldrums You haven't felt your whole body burning for all eternity.

    • @cadenorris4009
      @cadenorris4009 Před 2 lety +5

      @@kauekodama3234 and he also hasn't felt separation from God for all eternity either. That somehow makes one worse than the other?

    • @kauekodama3234
      @kauekodama3234 Před 2 lety +1

      @@cadenorris4009 What does it even mean to feel separation from God? Everyone can somehow imagine how terrible it would be to feel one's body being permanently burned. But separation from God sounds more like a manner of speaking, and to be honest it seems to be more in line with the atheist belief in eternal oblivion after death.

  • @Sylvia-of9hj
    @Sylvia-of9hj Před 2 lety

    One theory I heard (from Pastor Steve Chocolianti) is that the Lake of Fire is actually the Sun. And when you look at pictures of the surface of the Sun, it's fire, but the flames are moving around with a water like fluidity.

  • @themobbit9061
    @themobbit9061 Před 2 lety +1

    We have to wonder what eternity means outside of time. For all we know it has no relationship to time as we experience it here in the world.

  • @yvobalcer
    @yvobalcer Před 2 lety +1

    There is a Museum of Purgatory that I read about. There is a handprint that is burned from a person in purgatory who came and asked for prayers.

  • @lostandfound1642
    @lostandfound1642 Před 2 lety +42

    IF - IF- IF what Jimmy said were true, then how do you account for the Fatima visionaries (children at the time) who were shown a very real vision of hell by the Holy Virgin? Also countless other visionaries have had very real experiences of hell: Sister Josefa Menendez; St Faustina, St John Bosco....St Pio of Pietralcina - to name just a few (of literally hundreds of Saints and Mystics)? In addition to their experiences, there are the real, credible experiences of people who had NDE's - and who ended up in Hell (albeit temporarily).... .Even people who were not Christian have had such experiences....
    +++ Another point: JESUS CHRIST died in absolute torment - and He was tortured in the most barbaric and cruel way possible.... to save us from what? Do you think that God the Father permitted all this suffering for nothing?? To save us simply from an "unpleasant" experience?
    +++ Yet another point: as horrible as it is, the existence of a torturous Hell is the eternal justice for those who refuse to repent... Think of people such as Stalin, Hitler (these are extreme examples) ... who were responsible for the cruel slaughter of millions of people, including little children. Should they have the same fate as someone who didn't do nearly as much evil, yet out of pride did not want to ask forgiveness, for mercy?
    If Heaven is far more beautiful and amazing than anything our human imagination can tell us, it is logical to believe that Hell is also far worse than anything we could possibly imagine.
    Sorry, but I think it's dangerous to spread such ideas, dangerous to downplay the very real, unimaginably horrible reality of Hell. Better to be warned in advance...

    • @georgecherucheril9947
      @georgecherucheril9947 Před 2 lety +6

      Jimmy Akin talks a lot and justifies a lot of nonsense. He is a modernist.

    • @graziaromano3531
      @graziaromano3531 Před 2 lety +1

      Very well put

    • @chrisobrien6254
      @chrisobrien6254 Před 2 lety

      Modernists don’t believe in Fatima!

    • @lostandfound1642
      @lostandfound1642 Před 2 lety

      @@chrisobrien6254 .... what exactly is a modernist? And isn't that just a label? I hardly think that God judges according to labels we give ourselves, but rather, how much we love Him and love/forgive our neighbour. On these two commandments the entire rest of the Law depends.....

    • @chrisobrien6254
      @chrisobrien6254 Před 2 lety +1

      @@lostandfound1642 a person who believes in modernism....😏 and yes of course it’s a label and I never said anything critical of modernists other than they often don’t believe in Fatima. Why are you bringing Gods judgment?

  • @davet6024
    @davet6024 Před 2 lety

    That liquid death you opened at the end there is fitting to the discussion, and cheating. Tisk tisk

  • @austinespi1793
    @austinespi1793 Před 2 lety

    This makes sense for purgatory and souls in hell right now, but after the resurrection even the souls in hell will have a physical body.

  • @jamesd9895
    @jamesd9895 Před 2 lety +14

    I've heard these exact same opinions from more than a few protestants and modernist Catholics alike.
    But I think I'll stick with what the Church Fathers taught, as well as what the various mystics of the Church have seen.

    • @carollyon4755
      @carollyon4755 Před 2 lety

      Just what I was thinking.

    • @justsomevids4541
      @justsomevids4541 Před 2 lety

      From what i can see, the point is just that it is possible for hell and/or purgatory to be symbolised as fire to make it easier for our intellect to grasp,
      U dont have to believe it, the point is just that it's possible

  • @MattisWell.20
    @MattisWell.20 Před 2 lety +7

    I have found that the doctrine of hell is only a problem when it teaches that justice is retribution, rather than rehabilitation.
    “Primarily, God is not bound to punish sin; he is bound to destroy sin. The only vengeance worth having on sin is to make the sinner himself its executioner.” - George MacDonald
    If anything is to be considered true justice, and if suffering is to be involved in that system of justice, it can never be suffering without a remedy. God only destroys so that He can re-create. There is no justice found in destruction purely in and of itself.

    • @cookielemons
      @cookielemons Před 2 lety +6

      Bless this oasis of a comment amid the frothing infernalists venting their spleens in this comment section. Bonus points for the MacDonald reference as well.

    • @MattisWell.20
      @MattisWell.20 Před 2 lety

      @@cookielemons 😆🙏🙌
      Honestly, may all glory be to Christ alone! May what He accomplished on the Cross awaken in every heart! Amen.
      ✝️❤️‍🔥🕊

    • @ntmn8444
      @ntmn8444 Před 2 lety +1

      I agree.

    • @kaifreyleue5961
      @kaifreyleue5961 Před 11 měsíci

      Interesting: God only destroys so that he can re-create.
      This reminds me of Samsara. In Hinduism and Buddhism, there are many different hells that the wicked may be reborn in, depending on what kinds of crimes they committed in life. They receive their punishments for the evils they committed in life, and while it lasts a long time, it is not forever. Eventually, the soul dies and is reborn into the world in order to "try again" - hopefully, the soul learned its lessons and can do better this time around.
      Is your idea similar to this? There are Christians out there who believe in reincarnation. My friend's mother is one of them. Or, do you see hell as sort of a "cleansing" of sins without the need for a do-over?

    • @erinreilly33
      @erinreilly33 Před 9 měsíci

      I think those that choose hell (turn their back on God) will ultimately just be completely destroyed and wiped from history. The Catholic Church teaches of purgatory where you repair for your sins and eventually meet with God. But Hell is eternal and there is no coming back.

  • @ryanburgess3762
    @ryanburgess3762 Před 2 lety

    I think what Jimmy is trying to say is that while fire may be an aspect to hell, like Our Lady showed St Lucia, it is simply deeper than that. He's not saying there's no fire, he's saying it is way worse.

    • @bumponalog5001
      @bumponalog5001 Před rokem

      If that's what he meant why didn't he just say that?

  • @TruePT
    @TruePT Před 2 lety +2

    I was always told that a soul goes to Hell because they don’t choose God when they die/how they lived.

  • @scurvydog20
    @scurvydog20 Před 3 měsíci

    I could make two counters to the fire not being physical, 1 after the resurrection we will have physical bodies which could be affected, 2 the soul in it's natural state would not have any sense experience separate from the body but the saints are provided experience directly by God so God could provide the sense experience of fire appropriate to the damned

  • @iqgustavo
    @iqgustavo Před 3 měsíci

    🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
    00:29 *🤔 Questioning the justice of eternal punishment based on life experiences and choices.*
    01:53 *💭 Human cognition struggles to comprehend supernatural concepts beyond the material world.*
    03:30 *🔥 Hellfire interpreted symbolically as an emotional experience rather than physical torment.*
    04:54 *📖 John Paul II emphasizes hell as a state of separation from God's goodness rather than a physical location.*
    05:49 *📚 Historical literacy levels influence interpretations of religious texts and doctrines.*
    06:17 *🌍 Cultural context shapes understanding of theological concepts over time.*

  • @timothyburke1113
    @timothyburke1113 Před 2 lety +3

    In my opinion Jimmy didn't answer the question. There are three conditions for mortal sin. None of those conditions were met in Matts example. And even if they were there's confession. And that confession can take place with the priest. Or if you're on your deathbed and no priest is around you can make a perfect act of confession to be forgiven. That being said hell is far worse than it's described because those are the only terms that we humans can imagine it. It is real. However do not be afraid! Moment by moment God gives you Grace upon Grace to come back to him all your life. If you grab those moments you have nothing to fear. As saint faustina said " Jesus I trust in you, Jesus I trust in you, Jesus I trust in you." Love God with all your heart soul and mind and trust in Jesus and you have nothing to fear from hell. God does not condemn anyone to hell. Like the story of The prodigal son he's always waiting for us to run back to him. If we run the other way we are the ones condemning ourselves. Take heart Brothers, as God and Jesus say throughout the Bible do not be afraid!

  • @gardnert1
    @gardnert1 Před 2 měsíci

    I like to think of Hell as a dimension down from ours; meaning however many dimensions our reality uses (be it 3 or 4 or whatever), Hell is less than that, and the idea of a higher dimensional being like us being cast down into a lower dimension of reality must indeed be absolutely maddening. Like imagine if you suddenly lost all ability to move yet were still perfectly alive no matter what. You would burn with madness. It could be like that. And then Heaven on the other hand would be more like an unlocking of higher dimensions which would of course be amazing to us. Could be like that, but I dunno.

  • @firingallcylinders2949
    @firingallcylinders2949 Před 2 lety +2

    Anytime someone says that it's unfair temporal sins cause eternal punishment they assume that you stop sinning when you die and go to hell. If you die without the Blood of Christ covering you, you're in an eternal state of rebellion against God.

    • @Sonnyjune69
      @Sonnyjune69 Před 2 lety +2

      It’s also a huge misunderstanding of the severity of sin. Our “temporal” sin is not merely a temporal crime against an eternal and holy God. The sacrifice/death of God himself was required to pay for eternal sin, as Christ was the eternal and blameless blood sacrifice for humanity.

    • @firingallcylinders2949
      @firingallcylinders2949 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Sonnyjune69 The weight of sin is not emphasized enough

    • @kaifreyleue5961
      @kaifreyleue5961 Před 11 měsíci

      @@Sonnyjune69 Yeah but Jesus didn't die forever, nor was he tormented eternally forever. According to Christian belief, he was resurrected from the dead and raised up into heaven. That doesn't seem like a true sacrifice to me. You can't say you sacrificed your life if you were just brought back from the dead a few days later.

    • @Sonnyjune69
      @Sonnyjune69 Před 11 měsíci

      @@kaifreyleue5961 The nature of Christ being both God and human allowed his blood/death to be the sufficient sacrifice for sin. It is an infinite payment(from an infinite being) that covers all sin, which is why even if a regular human were to live perfectly without sin their death could not pay for all of history's sin. I think even in Christian theology there are aspects of the blood atonement that we cannot 100% understand yet, so to say it doesn't count as a true sacrifice if you are resurrected is a bit presumptuous on our part. Even if you were to say it was a divine loophole, Christ still did absorb all of sin in his crucifixion and paid for it by the shedding of his blood and his death - life is in the blood and without the shedding of blood there is no remission of sin (Hebrews 9:22). Also the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord (Romans 6:23). So it is established all across Scripture that sin separates us from holiness, and death is the result of sin, or the shedding of blood unto death. But I understand where you are coming from. The other aspect of sin/death is that someone who is defiled by sin inherently cannot purify themselves of sin, it requires the blood/death of something pure to atone for it, which is why the Levitical sacrifce system was established. It required innocent/spotless life to die to cover sin - but animals are not sufficient to pay for human sin (Hebrews 10). It was a foreshadowing of the perfect Lamb of God who would be the ultimate and final payment for sin. This is covered in Hebrews quite a bit - I would read through that sometime when you get the chance! Another thing to consider is not that punishment for sin requires eternal death, but that someone in sin who will live eternally (all humans once created have eternal souls), that soul must exist somewhere. And because a sinful soul must be separated from God (hell is essentially void of God's presence and all good things that come from God) the soul is being punished simply because it's not able to live where God is. Agree or disagree with the method established, Christ is the only possible solution to pay for sin in any finality, and purification of sin is required if that soul can ever reside where the Father resides. God provided the method for permanent forgiveness of sin for those who believe in faith. And just like in the Exodus - only those who cover themselves with the blood of the perfect Lamb can escape the angel of death. The Old Testament is constantly foreshadowing Christ's death for those who cannot save themselves. Sorry for the long comment, it's a super interesting and deep doctrine, I'd encourage you to keep looking into it! God bless

  • @josephreagan9545
    @josephreagan9545 Před rokem +1

    But you will also (at the resurrection) get your body back and fire could affect that.

  • @Jtotheroc69
    @Jtotheroc69 Před 2 lety

    Here's what I imagine Hell to be: Imagine the most sickness, stress, depression and physical pain you've ever felt in your life except x100 and you're stuck in a forest all alone.

  • @rschiwal
    @rschiwal Před 2 lety +1

    Hell is raging against God, Separation of God and blaming God. When you go to hell, you become part of hell and don't want to leave. You feel superior to those in heaven. Fire would be more comforting. It is the unforgivable sin. Each soul in Hell would be granted heaven by God if they repented, but Heaven is praising, worshiping and serving God in his presence and none of them want that at all and they never will repent.
    Hell is a place people put themselves and then blame God for it.

    • @DensityMatrix1
      @DensityMatrix1 Před 2 lety

      Thank you yes.
      In fact that must be the case. What would be worse burning in a fire or being separated from God? Being separated.

  • @id744
    @id744 Před měsícem

    "How would material fire possibly effect a soul?"
    Matthew 10:28
    And do not fear those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather fear him who can destroy both soul and body in hell.
    Sounds like bodies are destroyed there too.

  • @craigsmith1443
    @craigsmith1443 Před 2 lety +1

    Now I see: your can in your ad says 'Liquid Death.' OK, water is essential to life, but I agree with Ben Franklin:
    _...wine; a constant proof that God loves us, and loves to see us happy._
    Beer's not bad, either.
    Gotta be a Catholic beer somewhere...

  • @peterfitzsimmons
    @peterfitzsimmons Před 4 měsíci

    Dante went the other way in his Divine Comedy, the bottom of Hell was Satan frozen into and ice lake after the resurrection, all he could do was flap his wings, worth a read. Peter.

  • @efrainperez846
    @efrainperez846 Před 2 lety +3

    Hell is hell, eternal separation from God and God's infinate love and goodness. It does not matter how hell is described; it does not make change hell in any way. I don't want to go there.

  • @fernandosanchezsarmiento7704

    What about the time after the resurrection of the budy? The condem people will habe a body, and could feel the pain of burning with fire.

  • @Jwarrior123
    @Jwarrior123 Před 2 lety +1

    Hell is where a damned soul AND body go to..... So.... Real fire for a real body.
    Suffice to say, hell will be very very painful, both physically and spiritually.

  • @gloriamacias2180
    @gloriamacias2180 Před 5 měsíci

    Would it be most described as despair?

  • @kelechukwuanozyk7605
    @kelechukwuanozyk7605 Před 2 lety +8

    Jimmy Akin is causing so much confusion

    • @MZONE991
      @MZONE991 Před 2 lety +3

      not really, the Church allows multiple views on many issues, the nature of hell is just one of these issues

    • @verum-in-omnibus1035
      @verum-in-omnibus1035 Před 2 lety +2

      That’s because he’s trying to walk a balancing act between the Novus ordo sect/Vatican II revolution and the traditional Catholic faith. It will always be watered down in certain areas and confusing.

    • @christsavesreadromans1096
      @christsavesreadromans1096 Před měsícem

      @@MZONE991It’s heresy to reject that hell has fire.

  • @masculinerevamp144
    @masculinerevamp144 Před 2 lety +1

    Can anyone help rebuttal this? Idk if Im crazy, but in the back of my mind, I think that life is already hell, and this is a simulation created where I forgot I was in hell.

    • @ntmn8444
      @ntmn8444 Před 2 lety

      Sometimes I think so too. The Good Place kind of made me think about that 😂

  • @darlameeks
    @darlameeks Před 2 měsíci

    Jimmy's description of hell using the Biblical language figuratively makes a lot of sense. Thanks!

  • @samsquatch8957
    @samsquatch8957 Před 2 lety +2

    Jimmy Akin would be my go to guy for converting Joe Rogan

  • @Jedi9847
    @Jedi9847 Před 2 lety +118

    St. John Bosco, St. Faustina, St. Teresa of Avila, Bl Anne Catherine Emmerich, Sr. Lucia, along with myriad other Saints & Doctors of the Church to include no less than our Blessed Mother literally have said otherwise but okay, Jimmy.

  • @georgechristiansen6785

    Does the bodily Resurrection not apply to the damned?

  • @LAHEX-yt6ux
    @LAHEX-yt6ux Před 2 lety

    Speaking of hell... if God is all wise, he must have anticipated the fallen angels, which then means that hell is ultimately also a creation of God and serves a purpose in God's plan, correct? Otherwise, the fallen angels and hell would prove God is imperfect, since all is (or a consequence of) God's creation, right?
    In that perspective, even hell and evil are necessary and good? Means to an end?

  • @Sean-lv6fx
    @Sean-lv6fx Před 2 lety +1

    Read the Catholic Encyclopedia's description of Hell if you want some sobering thoughts, regarding what the souls experience who go to there.