The RPG-7's Big Brother - Russia's Rare RPG-16 In Ukraine
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- čas přidán 10. 02. 2024
- One of the rarer Russian anti-armour weapons to surface during the ongoing war in Ukraine is the RPG-16. Developed in the late 1960s it remained in service into the 1990s but in recent months have re-entered frontline service.
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Airborne & Naval forces probably had them sitting around the back of their armories. Clear out the back room and the warehouses probably still full of ammo.
Probably lying.
English.
"warehouses probably still full of ammo." that explains why they are using Iranian and North Korean ammo and NK ammo is so poorly made that it often landing half way on its way to the target and sometimes the projectile can even end up stuck inside the barrel...
@@Bialy_1in this case, the warehouses probably were full of ammo.
The RPG-16 is a positively rare weapon in comparison to the RPG-7. In addition, the RPG-16 munition is much less powerful and capable than RPG-7 rounds. So there’s little incentive to sell off the ammo because who else uses the RPG-16 and why else would they use it?
Other Russian weapons like artillery rounds, small arms, and RPG-7 are more widely used, so they’d be sold off before they touch the esoteric like the RPG-16.
And the RPG-16, as far as I know, does not have a tandem warhead round.@@classifiedad1
@@Bialy_1 What does small arms storage have to do with Russia buying srtillery shells? Stay on topic
The implementation of the rpg-16 is likely for the purpose the Russians stated. Longer range anti- armor. probably in a attempt to counter the longer range and more accurate autocannons. fitted to western supplied ifvs. Like the Bradley.
It sacrificed penetration for range. Despite the longer range achieved if a Bradley or Warrior spotted the infantry first they would be dead. M242 25mm and Rarden 30mm outrance the RPG-16.
@@thegiantisopod6299 And lancet outranges the autocannon ;)
@@TrynaLift-zv5st Indeed crazy how it has a 25 mile range and a maximum dive speed of 190 mph. 40 km and 300 kmh for metric folk.
@TrynaLift-zv5st And the flight time of a lancet outlasts the life expectancy of the average orc meat trooper
@@dashikashi4734 lol
Huge stocks of old Soviet era weapons exist in Crimea and Donbass. They must be used before completely expire.
I love this, I just uploaded my full rpg history and development video yesterday and talked about the rpg16
Will have to check that out
@@TheArmourersBench hell yeah thanks bro, been watching yours for a while
@@TheArmourersBench Late with this but you can't call the RPG-16 the RPG-7's "big brother". The RPG-7 was first used in 1967; the RPG-16 was first used a little more than a decade later. That meant the RPG-7 was first designed in the late 50s and mass-produced in the early 1960s.
lol I think people got what I meant. And I do also explain that in the actual video. Thanks for watching.
It’s really interesting to see what’s being pulled out from store rooms and armories to get sent out to the front. I’ve heard so many cool stories of guys in the US military talking about seeing what was still in the armory during their service, like some MK14 EBRs collecting rust some unmodified M14s, M16A2s. Navy guy told me he saw Stoners still hanging on the wall looking like they were dug up from the ocean.
I can’t imagine what crazy stuff Russia has in reserve, we’ve seen some crazy stuff but it’s like they keep pulling more out of their hat.
U should watch the armourers bench video about the weapons in the salt mine of soledar that the russians captured last year should give u a clear idea of what they have stored in the past in the ussr till today
In the last few years the US has had a pretty major purge of non standard arms from active armories. My unit had quite a diverse armory of random things when I arrived, by the time I left it was only M4s, M9s, 240, and M2s, everything else had been either sent to be destroyed or sent to somewhere else for long term storage. More destroyed than otherwise. I think the Iraq war era was the last time of the really mixed contents armories with actually old things in them.
On telegram, there was a picture from Ukraine of some guys who dug out a stash of antique weapons that still contained muskets. Yes, the flintlock single shot things.
Yes they do you must realize the size of Soviet armory sir
@@bower31 No more M249s? Has the 240 been issued to squad level now?
Another possible benefit would be that these might be less likely to be used against them if examples were lost, abandoned or captured.
Enemy capture is usually a very low design and implementation consideration.
@@MaxwellAerialPhotography Yeah but when they're in a conflict where their enemy is using the same weapons that they are, and the chance of getting your own munitions shot back at you is higher than usual, it may be an incentive in deciding what weapons to field in specific units and locations. It's been a consideration in some law enforcement, and civil guard procurements and issuings, so it might not be out of the realm of consideration here. Not to say it would be the main motivation, but certainly a welcome side effect.
Ukraine has a lot of these with ammunition in storage as well. Remember they got independent in 1991 and this RPG had been used by the Soviet army since 1970.
@@wuwmfrs That is an interesting aspect. Though I would wonder how many they actually still have. Ukraine also had battalions of tanks when the union disbanded. One of the largest stores of main battle tanks in the world at the time, if I'm not mistaken. But they left the vast majority of them to simply rot and decay. I heard a lot of the other Soviet equipment was sold off on the main and black markets, as there was and still is staggering amounts of coruption in their government. Moreso than in most of the other post Soviet states.
Me: мама can we get Carl-Gustavs?
мама: We have recoilless rifles at home
The bumblebee and later rpg variants are superior. Goofy recoilless swedish nonsense.
The rpg is better. The shaped charge effectiveness increases with diameter so the larger diameter rpg warhead, since it's external, deals more damage to armor
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Probably clearing out old stocks, buddies of mine working in logistics for the US Marines told me of how in the gulf war the munitions that were used werent even nearly the most modern because the first items to go are always those closest to their "expiry" date. So theyd be using 50. cal boxes from the 70s before the ones from the 90s etc. Makes sense when you think about it, you dont want huge stores of ammo and other equipment to expire thus forcing you to use your newest stuff first, since among other things thatd be an amazing waste of resources.
The primary implementation for the RPG-16 is for the completion of social media thumbs-up missions.
Mission accomplished.
The best video about RPG-16 on CZcams). Even in the Russian language there is no better.
By the way, in one of the moments of the shot, the soldier did not remove the fuse from the grenade before the shot))))
Thank you, appreciate it!
Ooh, well spotted.
Also the other thing is the RPG16 has a dual charge warhead which is like a tandem warhead meaning it's also effective against Vehicles with ERA, while RPG7 can use a PG-7VR warhead not sure how many have been made which has greater penetration but is a lot heavier and a shorter range compared to other RPG7 ammunition. So the RPG16 would be better against against IFVs with ERA at longer range while the 300mm penetration would not be as effective against tanks it is more than enough against any IFV/Humvee or MRAP type vehicles .
Very similar to 47mm Carl Gustaf from 1945. Interesting design and makes more sense than RPG-7 - compact and can be dismantled for carry.
To be fair the rpg7d3 has a take down in almost the same way and can fire a much larger array of projectiles like thermobaric charges and frag
Also sorta like a hybrid in concepts between the RPG, Gustav, and M18 recoilless rifle
My 2 cents, you got the tubes, you got the ammunition, persumably you srill have the tools to make more, might as well use what you have as theres shortages of everything
Pretty cool! I need several dozen of these. You know, for sporting purposes. Great video.
Hunting at a whole new level of efficiency
Very Informative video
Thank you, thanks for watching.
A bipod on a shoulder-launched rocket is a great idea....now I'm surprised that other systems dont usually have bipods.
I would assume whomever designed the weapon was either complying to design specs set by someone who has never used a shoulder mounted weapon or expected for the thing to be used just above the lip of a trench.
Or, in other words, just because something has a logic behind it, it doesn't make that logic necessarily make sense xD
Carl Gustav 84mm has a bipod as well,but rarely used cause its a bit in the way when shouldering or moving.
depends on system if they really even need it, the RPG-16 is quite heavy compared to the common disposables and the western closest equivalent CG84 has a bipod and the NLAW has a monopod which is plenty good enough, Javelin a has tripods or alternatively your knees.
or probably because it is not nesesery to be shoulder fired in stand up position ? u can be on the ground, on your belly and shoot the thing. how are you gonna target with 12 kilos ? Havent you seen bipods on a MGs that are lighter ?
Its very annoying how people dont understand something and yet dare to critisize it or the solutions made where their only expirience of the millitary is ... call of duty ! And is usualy some cluless american that thinks he has all the answers cos someone told him that "US equipment is superior in any why possible" ...
RPG 7s come with a bipod. Typically immediately discarded
Designed in the 70's shows age doesn't matter if it works. At this point the only real add on to be had is a targeting computer but analog old school can't be emp'd
Closest thing irl to soldier’s rocket launcher from tf2
TF2 fans be everywhere
The RPG16's look to have been unissued and well stored.
Look at the RPG-7 @4:30 . Is there a tag hanging from the front fuse?
They were initially intended for airborne and marines, no surprise that they are using them, the stock is probably massive and would be silly not to use them. A lot of it is probably near or even beyond its intended service life and would otherwise be disposed of. They were phased out from service as their anti-armor capabilities were inadequate in more modern settings, they offered no real advantage over RPG-7 (which got the RPG-7D version made for this purpose, which likewise breaks into two pieces) and disposable single-use launchers.
I dont believe the statement of RPG-16 offering greater range to be accurate since its weight and velocity are comparable to PG-7 rockets, offering a similar profile out to 300m. Also most use we saw was in densely wooded areas with line of sight not extending past 100-150m. If you look at the PG-7 rockets they use, its more often the older models, like PG-7VS, from the 1970s. And in actual fact they have superior anti-armor capability.
So they probably use them just because they have them in petty large numbers, not because they offer any real advantages. Again, the only advantage it ever had was that it could be taken apart into two pieces, which made it more convenient for airborne and marine use. As soon as RPG-7 introduced the D variant the RPG-16 was removed from active service, replaced by the RPG-7D, in addition to disposable RPGs.
its really amazing to see ...
I’d like to have one of those brand new unissued Cosmolene submerged Mosin-Nagants.
The RPG-16 sounds like a fascinating piece of military history! It's always interesting to see how technology evolves, especially in the field of weaponry. The RPG series has a long-standing reputation, and the RPG-16, being the 'big brother', must have some unique and advanced features compared to its predecessors. The historical and technical aspects of such weapons can provide a deep insight into military strategy and engineering. Plus, its appearance in Ukraine adds a layer of contemporary relevance. History and technology enthusiasts surely find this kind of topic intriguing! 🚀🛠
Cool video bro
Glad you liked it. Thanks for watching!
cool looking weapon
It could be both, extra range and clear out old storage
they could develop some HE rockets for these aswell, looks like a great launcher
I always thought those things were DDR made.....learned something new today 👍🏻
4:26 is that the safetypin still on the round?
looks like it
It's more of a protective cap
It will detonate either way
@@korniszon24I’ve seen at least two videos from Afghanistan and Syria of guys tripping while carrying RPG7s with the cap removed and instantly transitioning to the afterlife.
@@chemistryofquestionablequa6252 That's not how the RPG arming sequence works though. The fuse is armed only when there's enough inertia caused by firing. Mere contact with the ground isn't enough to set off the fuse. Something else probably went on to detonate the warhead. Even if the fuse can go off merely by contact I doubt the safety cap is enough to stop the warhead from detonating when it hits armour
@@sunmock I’d expect that they accidentally pulled the trigger as they fell. There are a lot of jerry rigged RPG warheads floating around that part of the world too. Unfortunately the footage isn’t good enough quality to really do a slow motion analysis of exactly what went on. I was certainly surprised when I saw it, especially when it happened twice,
It has Soldier from TF2 vibes which is neat
We have seen mosin nagants haven't we? This is a major surprise but it shouldn't have been implausible.
Oh yeah, we've seen Mosins for sure. These are probably rarer in fact.
Plentу, usually buy Donetsk or Lugansk militia troops, but since there’s not absorbed into the Russian Armed Forces last year, they’ve been gradually taken off the battlefield as the modern SVD rifle supplants them.
I actually had a World War II vintage 91/30 during my time in the LNM. Definitely a weapon of inconvenience when you’re fighting AK’s.
@@TheArmourersBench For real? Well that's somehow funnier.
@@Mortablunt Awesome that you at least got an sks. But if I had to choose between a more modern rifle or an older one then I'd choose the newer one too.
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“Back blast area clear!?” Safety first.
I wonder how many of these they have in stock?
And how old they are, as they have not been used for a while apparently.
If they are fielding them in numbers as it looks like they are, then they must have a decent stockpile of ammunition for it, I know not exactly the answer you are looking for. I think what’s weirder is seeing the fielding of STG44s from WW2 in a shocking volume, not exactly vast volumes but enough it seems like there’s a steady supply of Kurtz ammunition for them or they were rechambered which is just as strange
@@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 As I remember kurz ammunition is still produced in Serbia, so it`s isn`t as weird to use them at war.
As the Joker would say, ‘where do they get these fabulous toys?’
looks like a carl gustav in the design.
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They arusing the 16 top diversify and lower the depletion of rpg7 warheads
Rpg16 always was much more accurate than 7th, so was in armour rooms specnaz battalions. He couldn't broke armour of the modern tanks but shoot like a sniper rifle
That's that TF2 Soldier's Stock Rocket Launcher lol
If you translate RPG word for word then it's a 'handy antitankish granade launcher'.
Real?
More like handheld
@@vanjagretic5718 yes, that's what they mean by it but Russian is fun to translate word for word.
@@Skenderbeuismyhero Also known as Engrish
Wasn't there also a triple-rpg?
Mobile version of SPG-9
as they say you use what you got not what you want.
3:20 You are telling me that a Russian capture OCP uniforms and put it on prior to this video?
It's not big brother, but little. Developed later, with smaller caliber grenades with way less penetration
He thinks they're Mr.big or something
Tube is physically bigger and fires a smaller projectile more accurately
@@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 tube is bigger, but the grenade itself is much smaller
@@tedarcher9120 yes that’s what I said, a smaller projectile is more accurate and better suited for longer distances
@@loganbaileysfunwithtrains606 In theory, but in practice, unless you're trying to take out jeeps from long range, it's arguably less effective because it's has a much reduced penetrative capability meaning it's a lot less likely to actually destroy or incapacitate vehicles the RPG 7 was meant to destroy/incapacitate.
If you have massive amounts of old reserve stock and your in a war you might as well use it. No point in the stuff just sitting in an warehouse or armoury collecting dust.
Maybe this is the RPG that took out an Abrams with the help of a drone 😅
if it works use it
Looks like the missile launcher in fallout 4 with no attachments
It shoots two rockets. One of ems tiny.
Hitting western mbt:s and ifv:s like cv90?
Those pictures make it look like someone doesn´t know how to fire a MG-42 XD
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Thank you, thanks for watching!
Honestly the RPG-29 Vampir would be amazing
Digging deep in those armories I see. I wonder how much longer until we start seeing some PTRS-41s...probably not for a while but one can only dream
I think we'll see Russia dig for even older tanks before the PTRS comes along. And I don't know how useful an Anti-Tank rifle would be.
Long range sniper that works against light vehicles like MRAP and M113 and Hummers.
60 mm?
Funny how foreigners are trying to find deep meaning when there is none! RPG-16 is very accurate and VDV always loved it coz what can be better than an RPG? A sniper version of an RPG. In this conflict MBTs and RPGs meet rarely (at least for Russians) so armour penetrating capability isn't that important. This allows RPG-16 to compete or even excel RPG-7 in current conditions - firing at infantry and firing points.
And yes, there is abundance of ATGMs and FPVs against armour so RPG-16's showing up are completely disconnected from traits of any kind of armour. As it was stated multiple times, RPG-16 armour piercing capabilities are quite modest by modern standards.
no recoil
Is it wrong to state this is a soviet gustav?
Kinda looks like a piat
Heck, yeah, a new lootable unique weapon just dropped!
Eh, the AT4 and Carl Gustav's that Ukraine has are a lot better.
The reason why these are rarer is because they essentially reduced the explosive payload while increasing the propellant to made the rocket propelled grenade faster/more accurate at longer ranges. This, of course, has the major downside of reducing the actual effectiveness of the gun when you hit your target which is why it's so rare. They literally made the RPG 7 worse at its job to extend the range which becomes redundant because it now can't take out the targets it usually would be able to.
It's a crappy RPG 7 that was not heavily used because they knew it was as effective as the RPG 7, replaced as soon as they could better and then now re-entering service because they literally don't have anything else to use.
Kaboom 💥
Proof that Arma reforger is unfinished.
That's nothing, I was impressed to see destroyed T-55 in Ukraine with number 320 which is exactly the same tank, which invaded Czech Republic in 1968. That's was impressive!
Очевидно, что в войсках РФ недостаток РПГ-7 и боеприпасов к ним пытаются компенсировать за счёт худших по характеристикам РПГ-16, имеющихся на складах.
PG-7L is heavy grenade with worse ballistic drop.
It's almost certainly because they have a whole bunch of them in storage and are also running out of RPG-7 back stock.
RPG-7 is so widespread militia and terror groups often use it. The Russians won't be running low, not as if they lack the capabilities to make them
@@Anonymous-tj8xm it's more the lack of funding and resources. If they can save money on replacing lost RPG-7s by getting some old stock out, they'll do it.
@@AkuraTheAwesome source: trust me bro.
@@thatguy7208 I'm a random guy on CZcams, of course that's my source.
They definitely aren't running out of RPG-7 ammo or launchers, that's just a ridiculous statement. If terror groups running around firing these things everyday with no abilty to make their own can find ammo then certainly Russia has no problem finding ammo or launchers.
Red arm bands identify DPR or LPR fighters not russian army
Not always 100% the case.
@@TheArmourersBench I've never seen anyone else wear red. Z,V and O markings always wear white or silver
DID USSR DO ANYTHING ELSE
God almighty is good and desire all men to live in peace. No RPG and weapons all the time
It looks so....effective 😂
Ну рпг 16 ну и что...
Исчерпаны запасы РПГ -7 и боеприпасов к ним. Вот что. Иначе зачем доставать худшее по характеристикам вооружение?
@@AFb47 А ну да закончились ракеты и снаряды.
No comrade you can't have a car but we made all this crap.
Isn't this the main cannon for the rumored T-14 Armata?
Never underestimate russias abilities to produce unnecessary variants of this 😏
wtf is 2.3 inch? 2 3/16 who the hell says 2. anything inch if i said that people would think i was an R word
You're lucky I bothered to convert it from metric. Thanks for watching.
You're already a rtard if you use anything other than the metric system.
@@TheArmourersBench i fail to see how its lucky what would be lucky is if you knew the exact conversion 2.3
@@torengallagher8368 I'm sure you can work it out to the nearest thousandth. 👍
@@TheArmourersBench do you just like fucking with people?
More like, russias capability to produce modern antitank weapons is next to nothing and they are busting out weapons from the 1960s 😂
They have modern effective designs but due too corrupt supply chain parts are stolen to be sold or never to even be produced. less effective Russian anti-armor weapons is a big win for Ukraine.
It's another sign they are running out of weapons.
Keep believing that bullshit xD
"Modern" weapons, they still have a shit ton of old stock, its no different than the US if we started another major war, eventually with losses as high as they are we'd start bringing all the surplus mothballed equipment out until manufacturers caught up to demand for war materials
How are we 2 years in and you're still coping that that propaganda shit said by some senile politician
@wesswess8361 Keep tugging that forelock yah flog . 😅
Say what you want about Russia but no one who knows anything about Russia will ever accuse that country of running out of guns.
The amount made post ww2 is comical and they have most of that production ability still if not more
The mighty Russian superpower, hiding in defense trenches against the little tiny Ukraine military.
Ukraine has more men in theater than Russia until very recently due to the draft and they have the entire untouched Western/ZOG military and intelligence industrial complex behind them. Even the US military is training on using defensive trenches and fighting positions. Stop talking out of your ass
WTF you on about? Ukraine has the biggest standing army on the continent beside Russia.
@@thesayxx*made of foreign soldiers and vehicles supplies by NATO
Although, with all that equipment, they're still getting cocked by Russian military.
Yes tiny little Ukraine any smaller and it'd basically be Delaware am I right?
There's over a dozen different kinds of Russia RPGs
Wheres the blue tape armbands or The big Z on everything? I'm starting to think all the footage we have seen is fake in the west. LOL
You can see the red band on the leg of the guy firing the rpg16... Russians typically wear red, white or aluminum tape leg/arm bands for pid
@@bobtehdog145 lol ok. How much they pay you to bullshit on the internet and push propaganda? Good luck with your promotion fed boy
I used to think that idea is crazy then I saw the Lindybeige interview with the British merchant and he said "Its crazy out there mate and the craziest part is that in 6 months neither I nor anyone I know has even seen the enemy".
Look it up I'm paraphrasing but he basically says it
@@off6848 here's how I look at it. Both sides Sides wear same camo, both sides using same equipment for the most part. One side has air superiority which means the other side is screwed. The population of Ukraine has decreased by 20 million the Ukrainian government just bought enough land to bury 1 million people. The average age of someone fighting for Ukraine is 45 and they are now getting ready to draft women. They have failed so hard it's amazing the the dwarf with a massive cocaine habit still constantly asks for more. He's a crackhead the end
@@off6848 so just to lay it out. They wear the same camo, use the same equipment and the fix both sides agreed to before killing each other wast tape.