Vintage Weapons In A Modern War: Swedish K in Ukraine
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- čas přidán 15. 05. 2024
- The war in Ukraine has seen a plethora of vintage weaponry being used by both sides. Everything from M1910 Maxims to TT pistols. One of the more surprising vintage weapons to turn up fairly regularly is the classic ‘Sweden K’ or Carl Gustaf M/45.
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Update: From Swedish sources I've spoken to these M/45s are early spec guns which have been retrofitted with fixed magazine wells but not the reinforced end cap as the ammunition that necessitated this was no longer in use. I think it highly unlikely that they're of Egyptian origin as some people have asked about.
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I think these are the Egypt license manufactured ones. That explains the colour, lack of end cap and magazine holder.
I don't think so, the Port Saids typically have the removable magazine well.
Hey, read my comment below regarding origin. And yes we donated a bunch of the early models to Estonia. The newer models was all torn up but the old ones was just sitting in storage.
Thanks! That sounds about right!
@@TheArmourersBench To my understanding, the Swedish version was all painted green, not like the one manufactured in Egypt. I was a long time ago a conscript with these reliable weapons. Cheers.
All Swedish K/m45 in Ukraine are donated from Estonia. Even our Swedish 9mm “cop killer” m39b ammo can be find down here. But as mention in the video Sweden donated these weapons and ammo to Estonia in the 90s.
/The guy in the picture 2:56
Did they get the speed loaders too, so they can fill empty mags within seconds?
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Not that I've seen.@@darkiee69
@darkiee69 lol just use a D battery cell in the back ;D
@@Moontrue1on1 Not speed shooter, the mag loader. You know, the plunger thing you put the ammo frame in, press 6 times and the mag is full again.
I used to shoot it for 10 years during my time in the military. Absolutely loved it. Though it's pretty heavy for an SMG, it's piss-easy to clean and maintain, and almost never jams.
Trench sweeping and vehicle tank crew back up in event of a bailout.
Stirling SMG territory.. cheap simple rugged as.. ammo available from huge post cold war stocks.
During training we had the fabric cartridge case collector. Occasionally it would jam with it attached.
Without it, it never jammed for me.
Greetings from Sweden.
I had a m45 when I did my military service . I loved that gun. Super reliable.
Vårda vårda våååårda, vårda e rooooligt
Reliable, rugged, portable, and fires a readily available caliber.
Absolutely not obsolete. Just not "state of the art."
Obsolete doesn't meant ineffective
definitely obsolete
Obsolete, but not useless.
@CyborgPilord a rock is obsolete but it will still bash your brains out
@@CyborgPilord Shot many have you? It's a 9mm SMG, not a 12.7 HMG, 39b ammo is armor piercing, it's a great close quarter weapon.
"Ahh, Swedish K....A man of distinction."
My teacher used this and he told me a hillarious story;
During training he was issued a sub-optimal version that was inaccurate. (not the production variant. Just THAT gun.) it was issued in training to the 'hotshot' to drive him down a peg and make him humble by having an inaccurate gun from the get-go.
However when the instructor inspected his grouping he noticed it was rather accurate! "How so?" asked the instructor. My teacher fired another few groupings showing how he did it;
BY TWISTING THE BAREL AS HE FIRED. (This was during the winter so he had thick leather gloves on)
It might not be the sportiest looking gun out there. But its fantastic.
Something to give to second line guys. The kind of small arms you have is much less important that other weapons like belt fed machine guns, anti tank missiles and drones, not to mention combat vehicles. If they actually have to use these old subguns, they are probably in big trouble already.
It beats the hell out of a Mosin Nagan PU...
And when I'm in big trouble I would like to have a decent rifle to defend myself.
Better with some spray and pray then not having any gun at all.
It is still a great weapon for close combat,and it pierces armor.
Seems some units are front line. Possibly better for trench clearing and FIBUA, at close range a burst of 9mm is just as capable of incapacitating as 5.45.
Might it be useful as self-defense for vehicle and heavy weapon crews and support troops?
That’s exactly what these are being used for.
Probably, it's what they were originally meant for too.
This used to be my weapon 1980-1981 when I did my military service as a head of a infantery pluton ”IB77” in the Swedish army.
A very very reliable weapon for self defence and easy to maintain. The soldiers had AK4 at the time. Only officers had the ”Kpist”.
As did I and I agree. Robust and easy to maintain. Not accurate like a rifle, but very easy to handle.
@@hanscarlsson6583 Same here, it was fun to use on auto (it recoiled up and to the left if I remember correctly) but miserable for single shot point shooting beyond 20 meters. The delay of the heavy blowback mechanism was disconcerting. It was easy to maintain and fairly light, but loading an entire magazine really did take a toll on my thumbs, especially at -25 Celsius.
[edit]: mine was the old black finish without the enforced end cap. We were instructed to make sure the cap was properly seated to avoid injury. Only saw a handful (at the most) of the green ones with enforced end caps during my brief period.
@@stefanconradsson I was a really bad shoot, had not graduated past 50 meter when they sent us to the range do shoot 100 meter "duel" (where the target is visible for about 3 second at a time).
These targets are mounted on rebar rods.
I put two shot in the upper holding bracket (about 10x10 cm) and one touched the tip of the rebar and bent it 90 degrees. If I had known what I was doing, I would have had two shots center mass and one on the nose just by aiming a bit lower.
On the other hand our officer claimed a Russian winter coat would stop the bullet dead at ranges over 300 meter. (As if you'd ever hit anything at that range!)
Just out of curiosity was there ever talk of that being known by possible adversaries? Like oh there’s the officer bc you have that weapon let’s kill that guy? Or did it never come to mind?
One of my favorites! Vintage for sure but really one of the coolest SMGs ever made. Their use by SEALs and Special Forces in Vietnam definitely add 10 points to the Cool Quotient.
Absolut used by the CIA fitted with silencer
Did service as a dispatch rider. Had one of those. Easy to carry. Easy to clean. Simple to operate. Can withstand a lot of abuse. Low precision especially when side wind. As a defence weapon better than nothing.
Very glad to see this classic firearm being used for what it was built for.
My dad used to shoot them competitively up to national championship level when he was a youth, from 15 and onwards. When it was time for his military service, he brought his own private one (with a welded barrel to increase accuracy, in exchange for it being junk when the barrel was shot) and shot it, then he used his issued one when it was time for weapons inspection. His officers never did figure out how his firearm looked like it was fresh out of storage.
Unless they've had the paint removed at some point, the color indicates that it might be old Swedish police firearms that have been donated. We replaced ours for MP5s a long time ago. If so, they should have a fire selector for single shot on the left side of the gun.
They were quite liked by Navy Seals in the Vietnam war.
So its a pretty good post wae smg
So much so that after Sweden quit selling them to the US because of the war, Smith & Wesson developed a copy.
The guy that appears at 02:44 is wearing the US retired camo UCP uniform. Not as common to see as I would have expected. Great video, thanks
Unless it’s the only thing available, people tend to avoid UCP like the plague.
Alot of surplus Cold Weather / Wet Weather uniforms in UCP were donated to Ukraine.
Sorry man but I hate this uniform. And Im not even a professional soldier.
That ammo looks very much like the 1960s, Swedish 9mm that was surplused in the 90s. Brass case with red lacquer at the mouth. 🤠
Yes the red color is for the kps and black is for the pistols.Different amount of powder.The pistols crack due to the kps ammo.
@@urbankotto9685 Black is just the old colour for FMJ, it has nothing to do with which weapon it's supposd to be fired from.
9 39/B ammo is the metallpiercing round ,penetration on a steelhelm at100 yards front and backside . Still in use with our Glocks with perfect result..and no damages on the pistols since 1990..
@@UndeadDjingis The special ammo for the Swedish K is red painted to differentiate it from other ammo as it could explode some weaker guns. It's a higher powered ammo then magnum ammo and illegal in many countries as it could penetrate body armor.
@@znail4675 No, guns are not going to explode from firing m/39B. It has a tombak plated steel jacket, which increases its penetration and velocity (due to smaller tolerances in the barrel). It also increases wear on the barrel by 25% compared to normal copper jacketed rounds, which is why it shouldn't be fired from other guns. kpist m/45 is also worn down very quickly firing these rounds, but the SAF had thousands of those just laying around, so it didn't matter if they were worn down quickly. It is still fired from pistols, which is how it was used when taken into service, although the kpist m/45 was more common than pistols.
Most of the pictures shows m/45, not m/45B.
After the 50 round magazine was found obsolete, the magazine well was rivited instead of detachable on the m/45.
The old tools for the m/45 was sold to egypt and new tools made instead the m/45B. So, m/45B are NOT converted M/45:s.
The m/45 was put in storage until the mid 90 when the m/45B was replaced with the NOS m/45 for a couple of years.
The m/45 guns in this video are most likely weapons that the baltic got from Sweden in the 90:s.
Yes, and all B models got a green paintjob.
dont forget that M45 had a number of countrys that bought the right to make coppys of them and might not used the upgraded B model mods and green paint.
Thats right. The m/45 has been sold to several countrys. In the video there are a picture of a m/45 with a label on top with a bar code. Thats typical for a Swedish inventory military gun. So Im pretty sure that this guns from the begining is from Swedish stock.
When I did my military service in early 1970 I used this. Got a medal for a "sharp shooting" at 200 meter (656 feets). There were competitions for this weapon.
They were quite effective.
They’re really good and reliable
I used em in the swedish military service. Its a very sturdy weapon easy to clean, and rarely jams. I guess thats why its still in use.
Cold, snow or rain and mud makes a perfect case for picking a weapon that doesn't jam.
You could remove the end cap and shove in a D cell battery to make the gun cycle a lot faster. Or use 2 recoil springs.
When I visited Stockholm in 1987 I saw a Swedish Navy boat docked with a Naval guard wearing this very cool looking submachine gun. I was like ~ damn I gotta get me one of those awesome sweepers some day.
I carried a M45 during basic and i had one with the fixed magwell but without the reinforced endcap, not that uncommon. It's just a original M45 that they welded on a fixed magwell to.
As the old saying goes, "If it ain't broke....go use it assuming it shoots"
There was recently a long-awaited video about Archers in Ukraine. Would be good to find out more about how it has performed.
Not the canon but there’s real Archers with arrows there now, Cossack style😂
@@Br1cht I meant the Howitzer system. Archer - FH77BW L52.
@@nian60 Its doing fine, Ukrainians call it a "sniper howitzer" one operator was praising its accurate fire. they also dont have to freeze there ass off thanks to the heated cabin u sit in, wich is protected against all sorts of stuff, including chemical weapons. You wont see tons of other footage of it, the Swedish goverment dont want the Ukrainians to show it off to much
Love these reports on the weapons of Ukraine! More please!
Much more to come. Check out some of the earlier videos in the playlist if you missed any. Thanks for watching!
IIRC the black M/45s in Swedish use were either early M/45 that had a black metal finish (Later designated 45A when the 45B was introduced) or later civilian M/45 B or C painted black (either police issued, civilian owned or issued to protection details for important industries or infrastructure like railways and power companies)
The ones in this video look to be A models later updated with the pinned magwell, but not the reinforced end cap of the full B upgrade, most likely donated first to one of the Baltic countries and from there to Ukraine.
Didn't the Navy have black m45's too?
The Egyptian, licence built copy "Port Said" were also black.
@@JH-lo9ut "Didn't the Navy have black m45's too?" Most likely, in the form of A models. And the Navy also usually put far less wear on their weapons, so not unlikely a number of them made their way into weapon shipments to Estonia.
@@JH-lo9ut Actually the Navy may have had some C models too, for guard and cermonial guard duty.
@@vk3139 We had black ones in the Navy back in 2002, I think they were retired shortly after that?
@@oskich They were officially retired in 2007, but i think they had already stopped issuing them as personal weapons before that. A friend of mine that was in the Navy in 2008 claimed they still had a few on board, so who knows, maybe they forgot a few.
‘Neutral’ Sweden have a history of developing their own high tech weapon system but the m45 is an early example of a simple, cost effective, ‘all weather IKEA weapon’. No complaints.
Armed neutrality...
Haha one year ago, on your video about the KSP-58, you said in a comment that you'd work on your Swedish U-sound. You're getting there!
Great vid as always btw
Carl Gustaf was perhaps the best sub machine gun ever made.
Was among the last people in Sweden that had this as a service weapon, loved it easy as fuck to clean, never jams, and fun to shot, used to call it a trench clearer
I did my military service in Sweden in 1991 and they where still in use then. The elite troops had more modern weapons at the time. But they where still common. I would be shocked if they are actually actively in use today.
It was my service gun in the early 80’s as an AK4 (Swedish version of G3) was to bulky when riding motorbikes. It’s such a reliable and easy to maintain gun. Great for CQ and in dense forest though it weighs around 5 kg fully loaded if I remember correctly.
They still make holes in your enemy and they are extremely reliable
@@ulfpe True. But they are going on 80 years (!) old now. You would think there are better cheap, short range weapons around. Always better then nothing I guess!
They are quite handy weapons for tank crews though as they don't take up much space.
@@Jonteponte71maybe, what could improve? Range? Power?
I am picturing them loading a plane full of modern body armor, NLAWs, etc...and at the last minute somebody comes dragging a bunch of crates full of K-guns and boxes of 9mm ammo to throw on top of the load, like some kind of Cold War cherry of a military resupply cake.
They still work.
Much awaited, much appreciated excellent insights as always from you.
Thanks so much!
I’ve always liked the Swedish K due to its association with the Vietnam War. I’m so old that I date to that era but was decidedly too low speed, high drag to have encountered this weapon at that time.
If it shoots even guns from ww1 are useful in a war situation like the Ukraine is fighting. That’s one reason they’re holding the line so well. They have learned to use / adapt their fighting using every /any weapon they can find as long as it helps them even a little.
That’s what total war really means. You don’t get to say “I want a new gun” you simply are glad you have any gun no matter what it is or how old as long as it shoots reliably
My grandfather had a M/45 B in his office in a Cornelis Whith 4 36 rd😊 magazines and 8 boxes of ammunition when i was a child, it is a very reliable weapon in close combat.
Used the Karl Gustav in the Irish Army in the 1990s until replaced by Steyr Aug. Although antiqated by modern standards it remains an excellent weapon for its ease of maintenance and ruggedness. Would have no hesitation issuing it to second tier forces en masse. Competency can be established in hours. Ideal for checkpoint handling, vehicle crew personal weapon etc.
T O O B is immortal
With the stock folded the M45 is short and not too bad to carry while you are performing your actual duties like pulling cable, setting up a howitzer, cooking dinner, or unloading a truck. Like several people pointed out for selfdefense at up to 150 meters it's quite capable.
Fascinating,thankyou.
I was issued a M/45 in 1992 when I did my military service in Sweden.
That gun had the riveted magazinewell from the B variant, but NOT the B variant reinforced endcap. It was also black and not the distinctive green that most B variants have
Sounds like it matches the ones seen in Ukraine then! Perhaps a post 45B model refit?
@@TheArmourersBench Could very well be. The images of the first weapon spotted by the Swedish volunteer also has a Swedish model canteen on the hip of the soldier holding the weapon. The brass collector mounting plate is also a dead giveaway. Interestingly, that plate was also used to mount an auxillary safety/dustcover when using the weapon for guard duty.
The m45 was black in Swedish service, the m/45B was green. The Egyptian Port Said licence produced copy was also black. So some older Swedish "K" was black and in the last years in Swedish service they issuedthe older black m/45. The reason for the reinforced endcap of the m/45B is that they got a faulty lot of gallery round that had higher preasure than normal, the gallery round was fired with the blankfire barrell that tapers to the mussel buth without the blank firing device attached.
As you mention, Sweden donated a lot of older stuff to the Baltic nations in the 90s, so that would be my guess. Cool to see those, I'm too young to have seen them when I did my national service, I guess is could serve as a self defense weapon for support units, e.g logistics.
We still use them in Estonian defense forces
Informative and great video 😀👍🏻
Thank you!!
The M-45 is one of the finest SMGs that has ever been produced
I did my military service in 98-99 and got issued this (my platoon was mostly IT support roles and chefs).
Iirc many of us could pretty reliably hit stuff up to ~100 meters, some up to 200. The furthest you could set the iron sight was 300, but at that range you should use other weapons.
Our officers, who were marines/costal rangers, really liked them though (the M/45's)... said they were very nice to use in urban settings, and the most reliable weapon they'd used in muddy terrain... jam-resistant and easy to clean.
I didn't have any issues at 200 or 300m, did you get the correct ammo? A lot of old timers had to use regular 9mm and that gave the weapon a bad rep as it wasn't nearly as accurate with the low power ammo.
@@znail4675 Oh, yeah we got 9mm. They never even told us it could use other ammo xD
I guess they expected us to never have to actually do any fighting even if we somehow did get into a war, considering our roles.
Cool video. Great information. Thank you.
Thanks, glad you found it useful, much more to come. Thanks for watching.
Cool. I had this one during my service back in -85 in Sweden. The ones we used weren't painted green.
Swedish K a very simple and reliable gun. The iron sight have three settings. 100,200 and 300meter. The longer away the target is you lob the bullet in a parabolic trajectory.
Another TAB classic 🎉
Quality Stands the test of Time Generally!
Swedish K Black = Navy
Swedish K Green = Army
We called them pea shooter´s then i did my time in the Swedish Army as a 18 year old kid.
and if you remove the spring add a big fat Duracell battery put back the spring, you will shoot much faster. that was a neat little trick some did here in Sweden.
m45/B! I was trained on it (and then the AK5) As .."skyddsvakt" = Kind of MP. We were told to "curve" any shots over 300m (and that it wasn't at all suited for any length at all)
I had this one in my military service. Extremely rugged, simple and reliable. Heavier than you'd think, with ok-ish accuracy, some barrels where actually not that stable on them, but for close targets, they worked fine. I preferred the Swedish AK4 though.
I was told the attack divers used them, one of the few automatic weapons where you can clear out water in the barrel by firing your gun and it won't be completely ruined. If you stumble and get a plug of sand in the barrel you would want to get most of it out before firing though.
You actually pronounced it well! Cool!
Did my military service in the Swedish navy in 1989. Most of us had black finished M45B's only a few of us had green ones. Maybe navy stock black M45B's were given to Estonia. The green "army" ones might have been destroyed or fased out before the end of the last cold war.
We used the black ones in 2002 when I was in the Navy, I think they were retired shortly after that?
A few green ones ended up on the civilian market. We have two in our club. Though our range are not qualified for automatic fire so the poor lad have to feed manually put one round in the mag between shots :D We have never tried it in full auto, I promise ;)
@@andersmalmgren6528 with a quick and skilled trigger finger it's possible to single fire it from the magasine too😉
@@SonsOfLorgar yeah but the rules are that you only have one in the mag. So no errors can occur. There are ranges that are qualified for automatic but very, very rare
When I did my military service in mid 90s we had the green variant. I was in the Air Force.
@Kaiser39450 seconds ago
I was an MP NCO in the Irish defence Forces prior to the general adoption of the Styer rifle. The Gustav 9mm was the standard issue weapon to MP's prior to that. Our units armoury had racks upon racks of them, enough to equip a full strength PA company with one each. I remember our whole armoury being restocked with brand new, never fired Gustav's in 1990 ('ish). At the time we were all amazed as none of us plebs had any idea where they came from or why we got them? We assumed that they came from the strategic reserve stocks of the other branches? The same thing happened to the other PA units around the country. Anyway, I digress.it was the tan coloured sling on the video which reminded me of the event. All our old weapons were equipped with dark brown slings and ammunition pouches. All the new weapons came with the brand new tan coloured ones. The other thing which also rang a bell, was that none of ours were ever fitted with those locking bars over the end caps. I'm not saying the ones in your film were ours, but it's possible
Pdw concept for tankers or transport personnel, like the uzi, mp40, m1 carbine . Imo the m45 is the seciest mp out there. That thing is gorgeous to me
Might be obsolete, but even an obsolete weapon is lethal. And for what they're most likely using them for (self defense weapons for dismounted vehicle operators), they serve their purpose perfectly. Doesn't make sense to give a tank crewman an assault rifle. They need something shorter and more agile that is easy to carry since you will try to avoid combat if you're dismounted.
Our weapons are always topnotch,even all the old kit.
The olive green M/45B is the Kpist with a reinforced end cap (bakstycke). The kpist m45 is the black painted gun. It does not have the reinforced end cap. It has at times also been called m/45A
I don't think that the Carl Gustafs came from Sweden. From what I know, the army hasn't had any in stock since they were faced out. From what I have heard from people who work in the logistics center of the Swedish armed forces (FMLOG), the guns Sweden had where scraped decades ago. Edit, some of the guns shown I think aren't even proper Car Gustafs, they look more like Port Said variants. Dark finish and no B uppgrades by the looks of things. No idea how Port Saids got to Ukraine.
Quite possibly Estonia then. Thanks for watching.
@@TheArmourersBench Estonian should be green as well.
You would think but have spoken to Swedish armourers that said some only had the mag well upgrade and we're unpainted. It's a bit of a mystery
@@TheArmourersBench I was wrong, my BF says they had these black ones in storage and gave to Estonia.
@@TheArmourersBench there were definitely black m/45:s (that is m/45 not m/45B) even in the army. Had one myself during service, although with fixed magwell but no "B-upgrade" (i.e. back-cap). With m/39B ammo it has a "little" more punch than ordinarily 9 mm. But as other posts revealed, now scrapped from Swedish armed forces. A quite handy little gun! 😉
As noted, they're second hand from the Baltics as the Swedish used light gray or forestgreen paint as standard issue. It's a cool closequarter/trenchgun, easy to maintain and can take alot of abuse before failure. Definatly go for version B with the reinforcement as the early models under certain circumstanace the endcap can come off during fire. You do not want to be aiming down the sights if that happens 😵
Good vid
With the short length its maybe good for buildings and trenches? Or the lower (?) weight is maybe good for recon groups behind enemy lines.
M/45B is a cool gun, made to fit in a box on bicycles :D
I used M45 (green colour) during my military service in the northern part of Sweden between 1979 and 1980. We draw cabels for telephone and did radiocommunication so we hade it for selfdefense in near distanse. I remember one guy lost his in the forest so that ended up in court I think. The M45 was solid.
Our berloved K-pist was developed alongside the m/39 9x19 parabellum cartridge which in american terms is a +P++ charge. The extra powder can be utilised in the K-pist as it has a longer barrel than a pistol and helps it run during adverse conditions. Hope someone can show our ukrainian friends how to up the cycling rate with either a D battery in front of the endcap or double springs.
The ammunition visible in magazine at 2:16 looks like it could very well be Swedish sk ptr M39B which is a very nice 9x19mm ammo type. It can penetrate 50 layers of kevlar or 20cm of wood due to a very thick and hard special jacket. The thick red projectile seal is a match for sk ptr M/39B so they probablt came with a large amount of ammunition.
Well this is one of the best ‘Wester s’ video let me check
Is it the most accurate? No, is it the lightest? No, but it can spread lots of heavy lead pieces in a rapid manner roughly at the enemy, and sometimes that's all you need, also even though it's not lightweight, it is very compact with the stock folded, and that's great for in vehicle use.
The endcap mod was not strictly necesary even with the hot ammo used in Sweden, but it was an extra safety mod.
For a pistol caliber cartridge they are indeed accurate. Check out the swedish nationals competition for the Swedish K and you will be surprised. What is so great with them is that the cyclic rate is extremely low, so you can consistently hit your targets even when going full auto. But, would I carry it in a conflict instead of a modern weapon, no, absolutely not. But, still better than a handgun.
1:36 looks like hell of a stalker loadout
Exactly what I was thinking. This is what everyone carries about 5-10 hours into a run.
A piece of pipe with a spring and weight, and a barrel attached. You can't get much simpler.
Speaking of 'pipe guns', I've seen several reports that Kel-Tec has donated a number of Sub2000 9mm carbines to Ukraine; hopefully you will soon be able to post a video covering their use
Because they're a timeless classic and still very functional.
If you have ever loaded a magazine for the MP-40 or Sten Gun, then loading a magazine for the 45B is amazing. It takes literally seconds to load all 36 rounds. It's an incredibly simple system which relies on the ammo being delivered in the special 6x6 rack. The 39B ammo. Why Sweden is the only country to have used such a system, as far as I know (and I'm no expert, just a shooter) is beyond me. Loading 10rd clips for the M16 system with a loading tool is also nowhere near as fast. And loading AK mags is just slow. Especially while under fire.
Never got to use the speed loader. I saw my dad do it though. Total joy!
"Wrack wrack wrack Wrack wrack wrack" DONE!
Man that P99 is sexy, they appear to be such a rare pistol to see 'in the wild'
It is a very reliable weapon and similar to the M3 Grease Gun, and I have experience of both. A marksman can use it in distances upp to 100m.
And it can shoot under water to a depth of around 2 m if I recall it correctly 😊. Sturdy as hell...
In army , I had one of these. Easy to clean, we actually throw it into a dishwasher and oiled it after 😘
It was used in the Danish Navy and homeguard from the 50 to late 70 ore 80. Used it in the navy myself. Could be a donation from Denmark
Since the p99 has been mentioned In this video. Can you do a compilation of 9mm handguns in Ukraine?
I'm working on a Beretta video at the moment but I can certainly do a general overview on types. Thanks!
Great gun. Used in my military service and for several years after for target shooting. Very accurate up to 100-150 meters. Should always remove the brass collector attachment when using it in combat! Ironically, the spent cartridges can get trapped in the gun because of it....
in my opinion, it is one of the most reliable machine guns out there, it is simple in construction, easy to handle, yes, it is not a weapon for long ranges, but is a perfect weapon in trenches and dirty environments
not to mention a healthy magazine capacity, even without resorting to the coffin magazines
Sure it’s old and maybe outdated in todays battlefield because 5.56/5.45 exist but the Swedish K is a very nice gun and will work with no problem. BTW if it doesn’t have the green paint it can easily be from Egypt and not Sweden. Red rings on the bullets are 39B ammunition and it is a hotter loaded bullet that the army uses.
Looking at the painjob, rear end cap and magasin well. I would say most of these are the Egyptian made port said, which is a licenced copy of the Swedish K.
Not very likelly, looks like the swedish finish on theese, a regular swedish m45, they where common in the 1990s
They also issued medics (and women) MP5s. Makes sense
Perhaps nitpicking, but m45 was "black" and m45/B was green. We had them both in our mortar platoon 1982/1983 when I did my military service. Both shot 9x19 m39/B perfectly well. No problem. The reinforcement on the m45/B "end cap" was for stopping the end cap working loose when using gallery ammunition (kammarammunition). It was a pure training round and no longer used anywhere so the original m45 could be brought back in use. The original m39 ammunition worked well in pistols but it was performing bad with the sub-machine gun since the longer barrel gave the projectile a higher speed which the projectile couldn't handle. (It's a modern day problem with some PCCs and some ammunition today). The switch from m39 to m39/B eventually caused problems with the m/40 pistol (m39/B being effectively an over preassure cartridge and causing structural damage to the pistol) leading to the switch to the Pistol 88 (Glock 17). BTW, The m/07 Pistol was brought back for a short time, but it was chambered for the much weaker 9x20 round.
Probably egyptian port said. Carl gustafs made under licence in Egypt and called 'port said'. They were painted black also. Unless you see the stamp marks you will not know for sure.
I would agree with this as all Swedish m45 are painted green.
The Port Said typically has the removable magazine well I believe. As you say, without seeing markings it's hard to positively ID.
Danish perhabs? We used them too.
I doubt it. The Egyptians never made the mag-well a permanently pinned thing. They had it pinned with a U-shaped piece of round metal (just like the early models of the m/45), and that would have been visible in these pictures.
But in all the images here, the mag-well seems to have been permanently welded in place.
Sure, you could have done that manually, but that's a LOT of work for just changing the look of the thing, more or less.
However, Swedish black m/45's aren't as unusual as you might think.
Add to that the fact that they're using Swedish ammunition made specifically for the m/45, and I'm betting that it's a batch of early m/45's that have been taken out of storage and sent there. (Sweden had a shit-ton of weapons stored in hidden bunkers throughout the cold war and many of those are still there)
@@TheArmourersBench Could also be the American made copy made during the vietnam war. But those were mostly for clandestine use, so shouldn't be a whole lot of them around.
Thy did there job very well and will stand up better than modern weapons
Most people in the pictures shown, do not have the weapon in the proper "safety" position. That is the "hook" between the end cap and the sight.
I'm not a metal worker, or a gun enthusiast. But the lack of (visible) markings, makes me wonder if, at least some of these, have been made in country. By hastely put together machine shops.
The Swedish K has always reminded me of the Britsh Stengun, given a similar basic construction.
And since the Stengun was produced in decent numbers across occupied Europe by Partisan groups. I figure it would be just as easy to produce the Swedish K, in run of the mill machine shops in Ukraine.
And unlike other basic designs, it uses a readily accessible cartridge. Making it an ideal choice for a stopgab/rear area weapon.
Any thoughts from people who actually understand stamped metal or gun engineering?
Could be that those you mention are sanitized ones
Probably donated by one of the Baltic countries. Sweden gave them a lot of these as surplus guns back in the 90's.
This a weird war. Using no weapons from the 2nd world war together with many weapons which sees combat for the first time.
And both types from Sweden as well.
The tank is also a classic T62
Its a perfect weapon for a border guard or for mps but you can only fire it on full aoto
Old but very reliable, very easy to maintain and use.
Who knows, we might see Beretta M12s or Stirling MKIV's next.
You won't see British ones unless you want to go swimming for them.
79-80 when I did my military service we all had black m45s. And I don't think I saw any green at all, maybe it was automatic carbines that were green. Everyone who didn't have other big heavy weapons had automatic carbines but those of us who had anti-tank Carl Gustav used black m45s
Wait, in what configuration were the Irish m/45s? Is that a possibility?
I used the m45B back in 1984-1985