Vintage Weapons In a Modern War: The TT-33 Pistol In Ukraine
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- čas přidán 25. 03. 2023
- This is the first of a series of videos looking at the older weapons in use in the war in Ukraine. In future instalments we'll look at Maxims, Mosin-Nagants and DPs but in this first video we'll examine use of the Fedor Tokarev-designed TT-33.
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Thanks for watching everyone, I didn't want to go too deep on this one so didn't get specific with variants, perhaps I should have - perhaps that's a topic for a future video. Hope you found the video interesting! Here's the accompanying article - armourersbench.com/2023/03/26/vintage-weapons-in-a-modern-war-the-tt-33-pistol-in-ukraine/ thanks - Matt
I thought you got the balance right
Hey can you make a video about the cadillac cage commando looks really interesting and not talked about
and the Colt 1911 is vintage, so it is still being produced and used
@@zeljkodejanovic8786 "tetka" i dalje radi svoj posao. Jedino sto je teska kao kamen
@@oskng Zato je i jeftina. Cude se sto se jos koristi TT-33, a ne cude se Colu 1911. Svako oruzje koje je ispravno naci ce svoju namjenu. Pa i samostrijel je napravljen pre 500 godina pa jos moze naci svoju namjenu.
The tokarev is a grossly underrated pistol. I love my m57. 7.62x25 is a great round.
The 7.62x25 is a hot round and the TT-33 seems rugged and reliable.
Like to get my hands on a Tokarev especially if it’s a new one from Zastava.
@@alexs5744apparently the older 1940s ones are crap
@@com3dian903 my 1953 Polish tokarev is a beast
@@com3dian903 90 year old springs and 70 years of Commie rule will ruin most things
over here in vietnam the tt33 is still the standard issue pistol but we've recently started to modify them to use double stack mag
Can you give me some more info about it
I wish someone would bring a double stack 7.62x25 to market in the US
@@johnharker7194 Norinco NP7.62 back in the day
Not a bad idea consider that 7.62x25 had a lot more potential in defeating body armor then 9mm
@@Miazger Search for K14-VN and yo will find what little information is available in english
TT is like a 1911 you can never go wrong they are still around for a reason and it isn’t just nostalgia
The Tokarev basically is a 1911, just designed to be cheaper to build.
An anecdotal story i heard from someone who saw it happen firsthand: during a shredding of illegal guns, some 10 years ago, nearly 10 000 weapons of various type (AKs, makarovs, TTs - so you can get a figure of whereabouts in the world it took place) were sent through a metal shredder that handles the toughest of cars and even armor grade steel. The AKs and makarovs were all shredded in the first pass, some TTs however went through 5 times until the shredder was deemed ineffective for them. While mildly deformed and compressed, with effort and some loosening, the action still worked - a gas cutter was brought out to finish off the remaining dozen or so TTs. The person i heard this story from even has one of the slightly bent, torch cut TTs on his on his shelf as a reminder. I've seen it and it really does look like it could cycle the action if not for the melting that fused the barrel, slide and frame together.
Tt33 is more like browning fn 1903
@@Pilvenuga Whoever authorized that should be locked away for life.
Destroying perfectly good & in some cases, historical firearms.
@@oldredcoonhound2182 Absolutely not. Based on what? the TT is absolutely a 1911 on the inside.
Another interesting thing to note about the soldier at 5:57 with a TT in a Cytac holster: the sight on his AK appears to be a 2.5x ACOG taken off of an NLAW and remounted in a 1913 mount on his rifle.
Yes I think you're right!!
Actual COD lobby of a war lmao
@@satagaming9144 Nah man, this is some Tarkov shit.
@@Calvin_Coolage The idea of someone just yanking an ACOG from an NLAW and putting it on an AK is definitely Tarkov-esque
You're correct why waste a good Acog on a single use NLAW you throw away afterwards
I knew an elderly Portuguese bakery owner that shot a felon with a TT-33 during a robbery attempt. He told that captured the Tokarev from an insurgent when serving the Portuguese Army in Angola.
I like that the T33 is easily used with one hand. Apparently the designer lost an arm and he wanted his design to be operated with one hand and you can rack back the slide on your boot or a desk. This is good if you have a bad habit of breaking fingers.
*TT33
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For a sidearm that's likely to be used in a hurry when your other hand is doing something else, that's a very important feature!
It should probably already be chambered before the situation you need to use it comes up.
7.62X25 in general is better versus soft armor than 9mm, that somebody is using A Tokarev or CZ-52 does not necessarily mean they got the leftover or cast off handgun. You can easily find videos on YT of regular old FMJ 7.62X25 cutting through body armor with consistency.
My buddy from Bosnia told me last during the war they were sought after for this reason
They’re not but ok
7.62x25 Tokarev will go through cold war era flak vests and some soft Lvl 2 armour, but it will have trouble penetrating 3A reliably at anything besides point blank and will absolutely not penetrate hard plates.
I somewhat doubt that people are consciously picking TT-33’s because it might be able to penetrate some lower level soft armour.
Russian special forces, ie. those who are most likely to use handguns, all use 9x19mm pistols. Either the MP-443 Grach or Glocks, depending on budget. Very rarely you see a PM in 9x18mm, but never pistols in 7.62x25mm.
@@MaxwellAerialPhotography If you were to compare it with 1911, then 7.62x25 gives you way better penetration, somewhat weaker recoil and smaller size of bullet compared to 45 ACP. If not for a fact that TT-33 is old soviet design with no possibility of modding it as much as most of modern 9x19 pistols and damn heavy trigger pull (tried it, enough hard to make you think that you got a jam before it fires if you try it for first time) then round itsself is closer to ones used in PDW-s and not most common pistols and that diffrence makes it able to penetrate things such as years old russian made kevlar helmets.
TT is incredibly popular in Yugoslavia and it's also ridiculously inexpensive. NWOT examples can be found for 50-100 USD. People like it because it's slim and because it fits easily.
Pa bas i nije popularna, nego je stvar u tome da "tetki" ima na bacanje, pa ju je jeftinije i jednostavnije za kupiti, nego bilo koji drugi pistolj. Ako cemo iskreno, dali bi prije nosio "tetku" koja je teska kao vrag ili bilo koji noviji pistolj? A da ne pricamo jos o samoj preciznosti.
@@oskng Zavisi sta nosim od odeće i da li očekujem da će da mi treba X)
Kratak odgovor - naravno da ne, kao civil
E sada, da sam u JNA-ekvivalentu i da biram izmedju nje, koju neću da upotrebim i težeg i debljeg CZ-99, koji takodje neću da upotrebim - daj TT...
Za sebe i za ne-daj-Bože, HS-kompakt.
Razumno lagan, brdo municije, i kočnica kao na 1911.
Great videos. Keep up the good work. The TT33 is an all steel classic and the 7.62 x25 does not lack authority.
I certainly will. Thanks for watching!
I literally sleep with a tt33 beside me everyday its an amazing pistol
Pillow Gun is a valid category and its selection is one to not take lightly
Na balkanu ga zovemo "tetka" i moze posluziti kao cekic koliko je teska 😂😂😂 a ima ih na bacanje, ne mozes je ni prodati koliko ih ima 😂😂
@@ericmckinley7985 i only have this gun bro i would chose a glock 19 over it any day but i don't have that luxury
@@oskng Tetejac nije tezak pistolj, 800 grama nenapunjen, oko 900 grama sa punim okvirom od 9 metaka.
There’s tons of these in Canada. Before out increasingly authoritarian government restricted pistols it was a very common first pistol because it was so cheap.
The TT is the perfect weapon for war conditions and as a secondary weapon it is brilliant!!! The only downside is that it holds a few bullets that's why you stuff the frame nicely into your backpack and solve that problem too!!! I have an Zastava M57 and I would never trade it for a Glok, never!!! Greetings from Serbia 🇷🇸
At least the 57 has a couple of extra rounds! Thanks for watching.
@@TheArmourersBench Just 1 bullet and longer handle!!!
Certainly better than a Nagant revolver.
@@baneofbanes You can't even compare those two, like heaven and earth!!!
Jesi pucao iz Gloka ds vidis kako je to dobar pistolj pouzdan i precizan pozdrav iz 72 Specjalne brigade javim kad budem pucao iz M 57 a pucao sam i CZ99 veruj mi Glok 17 gen4 i CZ 99 Velika razlika u svemu
7.62X25 is no joke! That round is very nasty
I love the TT so much I have 3 of these pistols, a WW2 1935 Soviet, an M57 and a 1953 Romanian TT-C
I love this gun and I use it as an everyday carry, I'm proud it's still serving.
A gunsmith/machinist friend of mine picked up several of these a few years back when they were super cheap. He converted some to .38 Super and some to 9x23mm Winchester and had them magnaported. Sweet shooters!
Those old water cooled machine guns fire longer than any air cooled gun. One was tested in WW1. It fired non stop for two days straight. It still functioned after the test. Drawback is that their heavy as hell.
Worse on a cold ass day the steam from your water condenser might catch the eye of an artillery spotter (and you know what that means)
@@patrickshaw8595 Lol, imagine thinking a little water condensation is gonna give away your position but the 250 round belt of 7.62x54R that you just ripped off isn't. It's like the Garand Ping meme all over.
@@ericmckinley7985 Sounded good when I read it back in the 60's. Ballentine Books "World at war" series - some volume some page.
After WWII after the adoption of 7.62 NATO the British Army out of curiosity tried to do in a 303 Vickers and went longer than two days
@@christinepearson5788didn't they put a million rounds through the one gun in like a week and it was still happily trucking along?
i own a makarov and tokarev, and would choose the tokarev every time. the tokarev has a better trigger, better mag release, and better round
How reliable is it? Get many stoppages?
Isn't tt known to have unintentional discharge
@@mrguiltyfool the negligent discharge potential comes from there being no manual safety. If it is carried half Cocked it is no longer a concern.
@jc 123 both are reliable in my experience. The makarov is easy to disassemble and clean in comparison. But I'd wager 99% of the population would preform better with a tokarev
@@jc-xb8ve I live here in the states and only have, at the moment, a Romanian TT33 that I've carried for almost three years. Using PPU 85gr JHP rds, the Tokarev has absolutely been reliable as well as safe when at half cock. The very few issues, if any that I have had were with a second mag. It took a little breaking in but now that mag has gotten reliable now. And I trust the pistol carrying with a round in chamber. There has been a few times that the gun was dropped but nothing ever happened. The TT33 has, at least the Romanian version anyway, a firing pin with a spring that keeps it from protruding out the front. So a drop should not really set that round off. Somebody needs to do some crazy tests to confirm that like very high drops with a primer only round in chamber.
The tt33 and all clones are truly underrated. One of the finest handguns ever made for simplicity and reliability. More importantly: 7.62x25 is an incredible pistol cartridge. I am so disappointed a modern Glock style pistol is not available in the USA in that cartridge. It really should be.
Seems like the 5.7x28 is a pea shooter compared to the 7.62x25..
@@glennredwine289 it is. 7.62x25 is substantially better, only negative is the OAL of 7.62x25. But that’s not a big deal if you have medium to large hands.
@@FreedomsLife1776 a 7.62x25mm AR pistol with some CMMG mag conversion would be great especially with a bottleneck cartridge.
I used to mail order East Bloc surplus 7.62.25 TOK for about 8 cents a round. Sure, some of their necks were "cracked" but hey, you can't beat that pricing!
@@finalascent I wish that was still around. I’d be buying 10,000 rounds in a heart beat.
5:25 Casually shooting a steel plate 2ft from your ankles certainly is an interesting choice.
Yeah, they then shoot it point blank with an AK-74... Don't try that at home kids.
What's are the Ukrainian words for "spalling" or "ricochet"
Greetings, my favorite is the Zastava m57, but I still use the m70 9mm, the same look as the tettejka, only in 9mm caliber.
old doesn't mean bad. another great example is that up until recently, the only sidearm issued to us troops was the m1911. It wasn't until a few years ago that they started the process of rolling out a new standard issue handgun and even then it hasn't been issued to most units yet. With that said, i think the old m1911 was better.
The Soviet browning copy still in use doesnt surprise me one bit
There's a school of thought that says to use the weapon that you're most familiar with and have confidence in. It's a classic bit of robust Soviet engineering, and seems to be extensively used in training. So its popularity seems well founded on that score. I suspect with issue FMJ ammo it would marginally out-perform 9mm on soft body armour due to the projectiles' higher speed and smaller cross-section, and that would be interesting to see under controlled conditions.
In Canada we also use an ancient sidearm in the form of the Browning HI Power, it's not because we inherited old stocks or something though we just suck at military procurement.
Hi Powers are still solid pistols!
Don't worry they're about to start replacing them with SIG P320s.
Nowt wrong with the GP35.
@@ElfRightsActivist Yeah Hi Powers are great but most of the ones we have are literal WW2 relics that may or may not function. They could sell them on the open market and have enough to buy everyone in service a glock with optics.
Pistols don't do much other than get carried, and the HI Power though obsolescent is a very safe gun
Finally! I've been waiting for this video! Thanks so much for talking about the TT in Ukraine!
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching.
Mosin Nagants, DP28, Tokarev pistols or Maxim MG at great scale... nearly or more than 100 years yet they are still in use. I think that only these live long use was only achieved by muzzle loaders when it comes to fire arms; thats something to think of...
these weapons being so long living for the conflict is down to mostly two factors:
-due to the need of being able to mobilise huge armies in times of war, the soviet army stockpiled a lot of weapons over the years, and a good machine gun or automatic pistol never really becomes obsolete, these stocks remained in post soviet times as largely forgotten about and the difficulty of selling old guns (most civilian markets won't take them, and potential military customers aren't interested in nearly 100 year old guns)
-specifically for the Maxim and DinnerPlate, post soviet armies still use in fair amounts and got great stocks of 7.62x54R on hand due to guns like the PK, or the SVD Dragunov being in active service
The Russian/Soviet/Russian decision to keep the 7.62×54R as a service and machine gun cartridge for the past 130ish years has made it practical to field some of the equipment we've seen.
And the TT-33 was made in enough quantities that I'd be more surprised if they weren't being used. Especially given how common they've become in other conflicts.
@@MrKronikDeceptionmakes me wish the US kept more 3006 cal mgs
It's an excellent round. Would be nice to have more modern pistols chambered in it. Th CZ 52 is certainly better, as it is designed for full power rounds, instead of TT loads, but it wears out somewhat quickly.
That cartridge is an absolute flame thrower. When I take mine out to the range my buddies are amazed at the muzzle blast. One of my friends has the ppsh to go with it. In a light carbine the 7.62x25 really shines.
It will pierce SOME BODY ARMOR.
Ive got a t33 and i love it, it was the most powerful pistol cartridge till they made the 357 mag and its compact enough to easlily sit in a ar mag pouch
Nothing wrong with the TT-33 ,very reliable and good running ,good round also as long as they have non corrosive powder.
Untrue. TT-33 isn't safe to carry round in chamber, which is a very real flaw. It's the origin of "Isreali Carry" as a doctrine.
Vietnam's army has a modern version of tt-33 - K14 is really cool.
I really like my TT-33, only thing is the ability to find commercially produced ammo since the invasion of Ukraine. You can still find plenty of surplus ammo, but my range doesn’t allow steel core bullets. Until more commercial ammo reappears on the shelves, unfortunately my pistol is rendered to the status of “locker Queen”.
The TT33 was also a long-time favourite of the recently deceased "Da Vinci", commander of the 1st Battallion "Wolves of Da Vinci" (67th OMBr), before he replaced it first with a M9 in early `22, then later with a Glock.
I think that's might be his TT and M9 in the first photo. Thanks for watching.
@𐂂 the caliber is pretty good for basic armour penetration though, atleast compared to nato and russian 9mm’s
@𐂂 well yeah but thats the point of a pistol, an emergency backup that you will probably never need to use
@@zXPeterz14in trench fights you might get a chance or two to use it...
Realy Interesting Videos , Thank You for their Production 👏👏🇬🇧
Thank you for watching!
I had a buddy in the army during the late GWOT, he was told if he found one and it broke somehow, dont take it the armorer, youll find another one
I use to see these old pistols by the crate load and barrels of old mosins nagants at gun shows and gun shops back in the late 80s till the mid 90s. You could get 3 for $100 or less! Ammo was cheap as dirt also, Good handgun even today.
Yooooo sick stechkin!
Quite a few of them around, topic for a future video no doubt. Thanks for watching.
So mad I didn't pick one of these up back in the day when they were super cheap. I've never gotten to handle one, I've heard it's just a 1911 clone. After watching the disassembly I can see why.
It no more a 1911 clone than the Browning GP35 is. There are distinct differences, simplifications and even improvements.
I was lucky enough to pickup a Chinese copy of TT33. The Norinco 213.
It's exactly the same gun, except its chambered in 9mm. Purchased it new for $150 about 30 years ago.
Still is a fun gun to shoot and being 9mm, ammo is easier to find & cheaper than 7.62x25.
I would love a good in depth video about current Russian 9X39 weapon usage, I've seen such a hodgepodge of rifles/scopes/variations that it's tough to tell how much they being issued out.
Not much, there are 3 major unit types. Vdv snipers svds + vss or vsk, then their support units with ak-12 and val or a-94. Others are speznaz forces with various of 9x19 weapons.
On the modern battlefield, handguns are pretty much a "just in case" type weapon and rarely fired in actual combat. So realistically, you're fine carrying stuff that's even older or more impractical than a TT.
I personally would not want to carry one since it's single action only and has no safety beyond a half-cock hammer position. But hey, props to the Ukes for working with what they've got.
**points to index finger**
THIS is your safety.
I carried a tt33 concealed in my old life
Excellent.
Love the 9mm type54. Tokarevs will be around for as long as someone needs one
"Boys from the forest" is one of my favorite new channels too. They have exhaustive features on virtually all the weapons being used in the conflict by Ukrainian Forces. I own a Romanian TTC and fell in love with the 7.62x25 round. Not only is it laser straight, it can defeat level 3 body armor, basically making it a poor man's Five seveN. Out of a 16" barrel, the ammo has rifle level terminal performance, making it a great alternative to a rifle or carbine.
You promised and you delivered! Thanks Mr. Bench
Hahah Mr Bench. I do my best, thanks for watching!
@The Armourer's Bench my pleasure ❤️❤️
4:20 those wood grips go hard
Lovely and simple design.
Liker it or not, the TT33 is in the same league of combat use pistolas as the fabled 1911, FN Hi-Power and Glock handguns.
thank you!
I wanted a Tokarev after buying a PPS-43 and a dozen spam cans, I finally found a good deal on GB and it was local so no transfer fees. It is a 1953 Romanian and I love it. I still love my 1984 SS Gov Model more but it is a close second and cost a mere pittance by comparison to the Colt. Flawless shooting and such a big bang at the range tons of fun!
@magikclaw7458 I am also using tt33 Romania a very reliable weapon it's not a mummy daddy weapon it's a rigged weapon. I am also looking for m57 zastava. I love tt
Can you share the video of ppsh43 with me.
It may be old, but it's still effective.
Most likely what they are carrying is Yugo surplus m57's made is the 60's-80's, copy of the original TT pistol. The m57 holds the extra round. The TT only holds 7 in the mag.
8*
I’ve carried TT for a long time 28 years maybe
Excellent pistol.
I finally picked up a non import marked 42 dated TT33 nice and original from a local auction.
I love the Tokarev. Been trying to get one here but no luck so far.
It is a sweet, loud boy and that 7.62×25mm round will take down a grizzly bear due to its over penetrative nature, I got one with 3 mags
Love the TT-33 such a beautiful pistol.
The cartridge really is the star of that system 👌🏼
Interesting video. You could certainly do a lot worse than having a TT-33 as a sidearm.
Could also do a lot better.
@@americangangster1911 correct! You could always get a makarov which is the only pistol better than tt33
Side arms don’t really need to be that great. If you wanted to make your side arm effective you’d end up turning it into a rifle. They all suck, lol.
I had a commercial model from the tokerov factory made in about '92' and I have to rate it as top tear it was every thing you could ask for.
@@americangangster1911 Bud, Tokarev can drop a man from 300 feet in a flat line shooting, 1911 can only dream of doing such stuff with it's bullet velocity and sight picture. TT by no means is a bad gun and it never was. Although I do agree you can do better as far as magazine capacity is concerned, sights and ergonomics, for the bullet penetration 7,62 x 25 was and still is the best bullet for body armor and bulletproof vests.
Good kit stays in armouries and in use, regardless of public announcements. Thank you for this video.
Thanks for watching!
Great content
Thank you! Thanks for watching.
I recently bought tt pistol,
It's not original but a copy, and I like it , although my copy pistol is not accurate but I like it and one day I will be able to buy original Russian TT pistol because it's very expensive here in Pakistan.
This pistol might be old but it can still kill. And since pistols are only secondary weapons anyway there are for sure more urgent items to update then these.
So my assessment is this is a prudent use of what is available.
I own a tt-33, m-52, and m57 all in 7.62x25. Truly the caliber is outstanding. I consider it modern with quality magazines and some minor work on the sights.
its a very good weapon i have 3 of these 1 is semi 7 shot and 2 are full auto one is 14 shot and 2nd is 20 shot and these are marvolous. shoots very well never jams even on cheap ammo
I own a tt33 there really nice very smooth shooter 👌🏼
I got a Chinese T54 Tokarev out of pure curiosity and after swapping the import safety trigger for a regular one it's actually a very pleasant gun to shoot. Good reliability, smaller than you would think, fits well in a pocket and safe enough when carried half cock. I wouldn't take it into battle over a Glock, but it is still a pretty ok option. Definitely better than the Makarov that replaced it.
0:55 Oh hey is that an AR grip wrap?
7:12 Oh so it's specifically a TT part
I got two of them, nice pistol
Man its awesome this type of vídeos you do here i love to see multiples types of Guns used in ukraine !! Do more like this !!
Amazing Channel ❣️🇧🇷
Thanks! There will definitely be more!
Yes, I got one now in the military servis. Good penetrating power. But I still want a Colt 1911. :-)
I need to get my hands on one
A good few of the TT showed are ww2 issues with the wider slide serrations, mine in 48 dated with small serrations.
Used to have access to a norinco knockoff of TT-33. It’s not a terrible pistol and considering the amount pistols actually get used in a war zone does it really matter if you can mod it.
The quality is not the greatest, machining and materials wise... it works though.
4:30 : It's Captain Pikachu, aka Yurii Kochevenko !
Also, I don't see TT-33s in this video, but DD44 Dostoveis. *Ourumov's line before killing Mishkin in Goldeneye* : DUYU ?!
It even spawned a glorious mod, OurumEye 64 !
Sylvanas from WC3 Frozen Throne, cool!
If all you need is a decent sidearm for emergencies you could do way worse. Like a North Korean TT-33 clone :P
great stopping power
honestly i'm surprised more modern pistols aren't chambered in 7.62x25 tokarev
I have a nice T-54 with target grips. Made in 1955 in "Chyna." All in all its it's a sweet little gun, NRA excellent and only shoots on Sunday.
TT-33 is similar in design as Browning high power and 1911 type pistol. Anyone who have used the other two pistols will have little problem transit to TT-33.
There is that pivoting trigger, but Russia always did favor reliability over precision.
Browning hp uvijek bi izabrao prije tt33 (na balkanu ga zovemo tetka) ne mozes uopce usporedjivati ta dva pistolja.
Смотрю этот ролик и вспомнил маски в армии
Built to last !
Great video! Would be interesting to see modern pistols and carbines chambered in 7.62x25.
Well you have the OTs-27 Berdysh
Pistols are for last ditch personal defence In modern warfare so I doubt it would make much difference what pistol you are issued with. Most western armies don't even issue them to front line troops. My entire time in the Parachute regiment I was never issued a pistol.
Indeed. Also pretty rare historically within former Soviet states top, not really in their doctrine for infantry either. Thanks for watching.
Nice
I have shot a TT stamped as made in 1952 a few times, it's really pleasant to handle and quite accurate. I don't know enough about military applications but it does seem like a perfectly adequate emergency side-arm. The fact so many modern after-market accessories continue to be made is telling.
I daily carry a compensated Tokarev, that I modified to run like a race gun. 9 + 1 with an extended mag base, and I carry hollow point ammunition loaded pretty hot. Expands very well. And this thing is a laser pointer. Absolute tack driver. Shoots point of aim out to 100 yd. And I've successfully put an entire mag on a 40-in target at 400 yards.
Where you getting +1 basepads
@@alexwcobb eBay years ago.
Thank you for your video and excellent material reference... I wonder if any revolvers or Taurus firearms were seen in the battlefields of Ukraine
I haven't seen any revolver use myself. I have seen a Taurus rifle in use, former private purchase rifle I believe. Thanks for watching!
For Chinese TT33 variant，it is called 黑星槍，literally means "black star gun"
Did you come across any examples of Zastava M57 pistols during your research? They certainly wouldn't be local to the area but I have to wonder.
When all the talk is over people still go back to what works. i have a M70A & M88A 9mm pistols love them both. you just can't beat the old Tok's tough & reliable.
Ukraine is using these because that’s all they have. Anyone who had the choice moved on to more modern designs a long time ago.
@@baneofbanes Literally the only issue even today with the TT-33 is the limited ammo capacity. That's it. The Vietnamese have fixed that problem with their proprietary double-stacked TT variant.
@@jakekaywell5972 yah that single stack magazine is a big fucking issue with the gun dude. Also it’s single action only, another big fucking issue.
These things aren’t modern handguns dude.
TT + full auto + drum magazine from PPSh = deadly thing.)
I feel like the grip is a bit short, if I ever use it i'd prob find a +2 mag extension
Youre in luck bc the Zastava m57 exists, 9+1
Maybe you can do a video(s) about the PPD-40, PPSh-41, and PPS-43 SMGs being used in Ukraine?
Haven't really seen any that weren't taken from collectors collections yet. Maybe one or two very early. If you see some let me know. Thanks for watching!
@@TheArmourersBench British historian Mark Felton explained in his CZcams video "WW2 Weapons Used in Ukraine War" that the PPD-40, PPSh-41, and PPS-43 have seen use by both Ukrainian reservists and pro-Russian separatists. There is even a photo of the PPS-43 being held by a Ukrainian soldier (Territorial Defense?) at the 4:18 mark of the video.
I always wanted a tokarev
A gun from 100yrs ago is still a gun. 7.62x25 has a relatively flat trajectory due to the 357sig velocities and penetrates soft armor about as well as 5.7FN.
A have both a TT33 and a G31. The TT is more plesant to shoot, lighter bullet so less recoil and less noise. Still a big muzzle flash though.
Guns from 100 years old were designed to last, unlike the new plastic junk that we have today
@@tullo5564 lol excessive hyperbole in any sense is not helpful. Plastic may not be endearing to the heart, but it doesnt corrode near to the extent that any variety of steel will. Peak boomer fudd opinions.
@@ericmckinley7985 You obviously know nothing about firearms, your "call of duty" opinions is beyond stupid.
Plastic is vulnerable to temperature changes, it isn't as stiff as steel, simple chemistry that keyboard warriors know nothing of
@@ratscoot are you sure that G31 is louder than TT33 ?
As long as it slings lead, it will always be relevant.
4:19 This TT is A Work Horse She’s Seen Plenty of Action… Double Action Even…
5:55 finally! With the amount of NLAWs being used there I've always hoped there would be mounts made for their ACOGs so they can be detached and used on rifles
It's odd how infrequently you see them though. I've been lookin for them but not too many images of them. If you spot any let me know! Thanks for watching.