Type 68 North Korean Tokarev/High Power Hybrid

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    The Type 68 is a North Korean hybrid of the Tokarev and the High Power, used as a military service pistol until replaced by the Beak-Du-San copy pop the CZ75. The general outline of the gun is a copy of the Tokarev, with a modular removable fire control group, lack of manual safety, and tall thin sights. It is chambered for 7.62x25mm, and uses a magazine identical to the standard Tokarev except for not having a magazine catch cut, as the Type 68 has a heel magazine release.
    Internally, the High Power elements include a detent-retained barrel pin, use of a solid barrel cam instead of a 1911/Tokarev swinging link, and a fixed barrel bushing. Two patterns of markings exist, one with a date and North Korean marking, and one (like this example) with only a serial number.
    North Korean guns of all types are very rare in the United States. A very small number of Type 68s have come into the US, generally through Central America (probably via Cuba) and South Africa (via Rhodesia/Zimbabwe).
    Update: It appears that the original design work for these was done by an independent engineering firm in Yugoslavia. The design (a TT33 with High Power type locking and angled slide serrations) was not completed in time for the trials that would lead to adoption of the Yugoslav M57, and the drawings were transferred to "another country" - probably North Korea.
    Thanks to Legacy Collectibles for loaning me this pistol for filming! Check out his CZcams channel, with lots of other interesting guns:
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Komentáře • 542

  • @beavisbutt-headson3223
    @beavisbutt-headson3223 Před 4 lety +1756

    "It's an authentic American 1911, so it is!"
    "What's that one star doing on the grip?" - "It's Texan"
    "It has neither grip nor manual safety" - "As I said, it's Texan"
    "It has a magazine heel release" - "Lots of Germans in Texas"
    "It's in 7.62 Tokarev" - "That's a Native American name for Texas"

    • @n.a.4292
      @n.a.4292 Před 4 lety +203

      @Catboomer12 Some say Texas sunk alongside Atlantis, but we'll never know for sure.

    • @alexxela9502
      @alexxela9502 Před 4 lety +37

      The famous rifles of the Russian designer Tokarev SVT-38, SVT-40 once made a splash in the arms business. For SVT 40 Tokarev even provided a silencer (I do not know how relevant was the use of a silencer on rifles in the first half of the 20th century and whether silencers were used at all at that time). On the one hand, I envy that the US has very liberal legislation for gun ownership (unfortunately, this is a problem in Russia), but on the other hand, news regularly comes from the US about the use of weapons among the population (sometimes with victims), so the issue is very controversial...

    • @beavisbutt-headson3223
      @beavisbutt-headson3223 Před 4 lety +86

      @@alexxela9502 I know who Tokarev was. I was just making up an imaginary conversation to make light of the fact that this gun (at least in my opinion) really tries to look like a 1911 and coming up with ridiculous excuses to explain away all the things that are "off" about this gun.

    • @nolanolivier6791
      @nolanolivier6791 Před 4 lety +34

      @Catboomer12 So I asked 'em as they pulled their reins towards the settin' sun
      I said, "Before you go, I'd like to know, just where you boys come from?"
      Well they opened up a star chart and said, "right here where this 'X' is
      It's the biggest place in Outer Space, the planet known as Texas"

    • @twodog350
      @twodog350 Před 4 lety +40

      I lived in Texas for a year. They had lots of snow that winter. I told em im Santa Claus the real one from germany tho and thats my way of saying "thank you Texas". On christmas eve they sang a german christmas Song "stille Nacht" in church for me. On german. And we were throwing snowballs at each other outside that night. Good times. I met so many lovely People there.
      I love Texas.
      Greetings from germany
      Stay safe ya'll ✌☺

  • @Piotwor
    @Piotwor Před 4 lety +335

    I'm fully expecting to one day hear one of those videos start with "Hi, I'm Ian McCollum and today we're in Kim Dzong Un's grey room in an undisclosed location in North Korea"

    • @Discotekh_Dynasty
      @Discotekh_Dynasty Před 4 lety +21

      I knew he was a secret juche guy

    • @DerangedManiac12
      @DerangedManiac12 Před 4 lety +28

      Juche Gang, Juche Gang, Juche Gang

    • @ivyssauro123
      @ivyssauro123 Před 3 lety +10

      The way the DPRK has been opening up I wouldn't doubt it in 20 years time

  • @davidhoran7116
    @davidhoran7116 Před 4 lety +726

    Ah yes, the High Toker.

    • @darrenbrashaw8409
      @darrenbrashaw8409 Před 4 lety +66

      Toke Power!

    • @michaelmarshall8041
      @michaelmarshall8041 Před 4 lety +39

      I didnt know i needed this comment.

    • @mordecaieagle4240
      @mordecaieagle4240 Před 4 lety +36

      I'm a joker
      I'm a smoker
      I'm the High Toker
      I sure want to shoot someone.
      And now i got that playing in my head

    • @john-paulsilke893
      @john-paulsilke893 Před 4 lety +3

      Mordecai Eagle not that stupid song is in my head. Morise, whooo, whooo.

    • @GigBound
      @GigBound Před 4 lety +2

      Looking good, Toker!

  • @drummaghua2687
    @drummaghua2687 Před 4 lety +1133

    looks like a generic default pistol in a game where the developers can't get the trademark from other companies

  • @RedXlV
    @RedXlV Před 4 lety +285

    When you said "Tokarev/High Power hybrid", I was hoping for a 13-round double stack magazine.

    • @turbografx16
      @turbografx16 Před 4 lety +26

      Vietnam makes one! So did Norinco. Since trade restrictions were eased on Vietnam 4 years ago, I've been waiting for firearms to start coming in, but none yet.

    • @RedXlV
      @RedXlV Před 4 lety +3

      @@turbografx16 Yeah, would be nice if the K14-VN starts getting imported.

    • @sontran5312
      @sontran5312 Před 4 lety +1

      @@RedXlV That is a wishful thinking :))

    • @hiya_how_areya6436
      @hiya_how_areya6436 Před 3 lety +2

      I have a Norinco 213a double stack. It's one roughly made gun! Looks awesome from a distance though and shoots pretty straight! Speaking of Tokarev\HiPower hybrids the 213a actually can take HiPower mags with a very small modification to the magazine catch cutout.

    • @Jaze1117
      @Jaze1117 Před 2 lety

      Go look up “30 bore pistol” Pakistan makes tts copy’s and a lot of em they mash anything you can think of go look up “ dara adam khel” gun market in Pakistan where they hand make guns and sell em for as low ad 20$ its a great watch

  • @medikpac7105
    @medikpac7105 Před 4 lety +105

    I've always noticed that North Korean stuff tends to have distinct, sharp angles (architecture, regalia, etc.) so it's interesting, deliberate or not, to see it in pistol form.

  • @chrishahn3834
    @chrishahn3834 Před 4 lety +170

    The number one reason I love Ian and his channel is because he digs into the gun. A lot of people who present things show you the gun and tell you about it it's many interesting features. Meanwhile Ian will field strip the gun and SHOW you the features and how they work. Big love, Gun Jesus.

    • @lanceluthor6660
      @lanceluthor6660 Před 4 lety +5

      Totally agree am a disciple of gun Jesus for exactly this type of content. Ian would make a fantastic history prof in some alternative universe where guns are not a political issue.

    • @stevemolina9035
      @stevemolina9035 Před 2 lety +2

      I totally agree with you Chris; Love Ians' expertise.

    • @mileselon1339
      @mileselon1339 Před 2 lety +1

      he's basically Goshua And John Moses Browning Is Jesus Christ!

  • @NN-eh1fq
    @NN-eh1fq Před 4 lety +140

    Ian, regarding the serial number: DPRK has a different calendar in use.

    • @thelieutenant7732
      @thelieutenant7732 Před 4 lety +21

      So according to the Juche Calendar, 1912 is the 1st year, so the picture of one with a 41 would be made in 1953, unfortunately that still would be too early. My best guess is the same as Ian's probably a factory code because factories are named by number from what I've seen. Right side could possibly be the amount of the guns made by that factory. Good idea with the different calendar though, I didn't think of that.

    • @unapistola
      @unapistola Před 4 lety +22

      Plus, They don't use Juche calendar in firearms, And Juche calendar was came out in 1997. Usage of Juche calendar in North Korea is similar to usage Japanese era name nowadays.

    • @ivyssauro123
      @ivyssauro123 Před 3 lety +3

      @@unapistola yup, cerimonial and for official fancy press releases

  • @aidanfarnan4683
    @aidanfarnan4683 Před 4 lety +152

    Nice looking gun, didn't expect to see that.

    • @mrkeogh
      @mrkeogh Před 4 lety +13

      Most of their military hardware is ugly as sin. This one has a real Star Megastar look about it...

    • @nicktechnubyte1184
      @nicktechnubyte1184 Před 4 lety +1

      Especially from the worst country in the entire world!

  • @5.56mmnato_4
    @5.56mmnato_4 Před 4 lety +229

    'beak do san'(백두산) means mountain which located in North Korea-china border. You can find this name even in South Korean national anthem.

    • @monkeylee4818
      @monkeylee4818 Před 4 lety +6

      the white head mountain

    • @doranh6410
      @doranh6410 Před 4 lety +19

      In short, Mt Baekdu

    • @awgmax
      @awgmax Před 4 lety +27

      Funny, the Romanians during their communist regime named their .32 acp macarov/walther pp copy after their mountains too. The "Carpați" pistol( after the Carpathian mountains.)

    • @plsuh
      @plsuh Před 4 lety +19

      Just to keep all of the info on this together, the first syllable, while transliterated in to English as "Baek", is actually pronounced with a short "a" sound. It's identical in sound to the English word "back". Yes, it's a pretty famous mountain in Korean history and legend. It's even more so for North Korea, since according to Kim Jong-Il's official biography, he was born on Baekdu-san. (There is considerable evidence that this is not the case and that the official bio was written that way to give him the imprimatur of heavenly favor. Pretty much SOP for third world dictators.)

    • @atomic_wait
      @atomic_wait Před 4 lety +10

      @@plsuh It's also the name of one of the Korean characters in Tekken, right? Baek Do-San or something like that? I assume it's a similar pun being made, like that character in Rocky Balboa being named Mason Dixon or whatever.

  • @mordecaieagle4240
    @mordecaieagle4240 Před 4 lety +115

    I'm just waiting the day when Ian shows us the North Korean pringles magazine.

    • @rrphantom8194
      @rrphantom8194 Před 4 lety +18

      I'm sure they are extremely unreliable or directly non-functional.
      NK issues it to look modern, just like the chinese did with the qbz95 at HongKong occupation

    • @mordecaieagle4240
      @mordecaieagle4240 Před 4 lety +21

      @@rrphantom8194 I prefer the theory that those things are made from painted cartboard tubes. But i still love their bold claims, 150 rounds of 5,45 in helical mag, even if it is real it would be more unreliable than Chauchat in a trench and more front heavy than Lewis gun.

    • @rrphantom8194
      @rrphantom8194 Před 4 lety +18

      @@mordecaieagle4240
      Well, north korean authorities don't really need high capacity magazines.
      What is a tortured political prisoner going to do? Run?
      A direct blowback unlicensed copy of a 1911 made by a vietnamese slave farmer back in the 60's is more than enough to kill him

    • @KTo288
      @KTo288 Před 4 lety +6

      @@rrphantom8194 it's not for the political prisoners, but to intimidate soldiers, policemen or cadres who might get the silly idea that they can do their country and the world a favour and empty their firearm into the dear leader.

    • @jesusdontlikethatimgaybuts9493
      @jesusdontlikethatimgaybuts9493 Před 2 lety +1

      @@KTo288 i wonder why no one has done that yet

  • @fratercontenduntocculta8161

    This is quite well made for a pistol like this. The slide to me is what measures how much a country loves making handguns. That raised machined rib down the center is not just functional as a mirage band, but serves as a bold bit of decoration too.

  • @GunsNGames1
    @GunsNGames1 Před 4 lety +289

    It's like a gun you would see in a game like Uncharted or Just Cause.

    • @user-xq5og9lt8p
      @user-xq5og9lt8p Před 4 lety +52

      With a name like TTT HighTower

    • @Beany2007FTW
      @Beany2007FTW Před 4 lety +15

      I preferred Goldeneye - the DD44. Just change the letter to something it sounds like, and up the digit.

    • @strois2779
      @strois2779 Před 4 lety +4

      @@user-xq5og9lt8p ha! Ikr

    • @jakobgermain6226
      @jakobgermain6226 Před 4 lety +2

      Or world at war

  • @Arkeo36
    @Arkeo36 Před 4 lety +19

    This is the best-looking version of the Tokarev.

  • @m1994a3jagnew
    @m1994a3jagnew Před 4 lety +5

    Your tokarev will make a fine addition to my collection.

  • @andrewince8824
    @andrewince8824 Před 4 lety +16

    I love pistol designs. There's always an interesting lineage of who copied what. The Tokarev is pretty much a mechanical copy of the 1911 with some refinements, e.g. a simpler takedown.

  • @soulstrafer
    @soulstrafer Před 4 lety +40

    "Would you want a 1911 or a Tokarev?"
    North Korean officer: Yes

  • @Mrgunsngear
    @Mrgunsngear Před 4 lety +10

    Great info

  • @Seb-Storm
    @Seb-Storm Před 4 lety +9

    Ian, would you consider a short video of the pros and the cons of the heel mag release vs the button mag release, why would some weapons have one than the other and maybe a brief history of who invented each one?

  • @paulosborne6517
    @paulosborne6517 Před 4 lety +7

    A surprisingly competent and well thought out improvements.

  • @awgmax
    @awgmax Před 4 lety +39

    1:06, while you're mentioning the type 70, i watched that video recently and I've realised it's very similar to the current pistol that the Romanian police are still using to this day(ex communist country, very heavy soviet armament influence) , probably they're both different copies of the same gun. We call it the "Carpați" pistol (after the Carpathian mountains), and it was introduced in 1974. They're both .32 acp copies of the walther PP

  • @isaacbenavram5790
    @isaacbenavram5790 Před 4 lety +6

    Thank you for the education Ian! Your work is invaluable

  • @Vincent-S
    @Vincent-S Před 4 lety +33

    Neat.
    A Russian 1911 and a North Korean Hi-Power

  • @bend1707
    @bend1707 Před 4 lety +80

    Perfect timing, this popped up right when i finished watching the North Korean AK video

  • @tinkertalksguns7289
    @tinkertalksguns7289 Před rokem +3

    Those seem like some really good, thoughtful updates of the Tokarev.

  • @SDan490
    @SDan490 Před 4 lety +6

    Seems like decent quality considering where it came from. Also seems more pleasant to shoot than a Tokarev too with the way the grip is. Wish they were more available.

  • @sambaggins2798
    @sambaggins2798 Před 4 lety +2

    Ever since I saw a reference to you going to Legacy I have been waiting for the videos in anticipation of some cool guns!

  • @THE_RAMALAMADINGDONG
    @THE_RAMALAMADINGDONG Před 4 lety +1

    This has to be the one the best channels on CZcams if not the best

  • @GuyAnthonyDeMarco
    @GuyAnthonyDeMarco Před 4 lety +5

    Fascinating. I learned a lot about my Russian Tokarev from this NK version video. Got it when I worked at Cabela's corporate office. Super-inexpensive firearm that's fun to shoot...when you can find inexpensive ammo for it. Thanks, Ian.

  • @user-vc2el9jm1j
    @user-vc2el9jm1j Před 4 lety +2

    We all have been waiting for this video)))

  • @loupiscanis9449
    @loupiscanis9449 Před 4 lety +1

    Thank you , Ian

  • @robinx961
    @robinx961 Před rokem +1

    Its a beautiful piece ngl

  • @trevorslinkard31
    @trevorslinkard31 Před 4 lety +1

    Just bought my TT-33 and this video speaks to me.

  • @ivyssauro123
    @ivyssauro123 Před 3 lety +1

    This is a really cool pistol, had never heard of it

  • @survivalcomms
    @survivalcomms Před 4 lety +1

    You show the coolest toys :) Thanks for sharing !

  • @mikedee6173
    @mikedee6173 Před 4 lety +1

    Love your channel Ian ❤️

  • @sejembalm
    @sejembalm Před 4 lety +11

    Copying the CZ 75 9x19mm is actually a good move for a service pistol.

  • @sdgardner1954
    @sdgardner1954 Před 4 lety +7

    I think it looks better than a Tokarev, and the changes made were all a pretty good idea. I wonder if the hammer group is interchangeable with the Tokarev?

  • @barryeaton8907
    @barryeaton8907 Před 4 lety +31

    I like Legacy Collectibles story that it came in a CIA diplomatic bag... Definitely one of a kind in the US however it got there

  • @marcelopires711
    @marcelopires711 Před 4 lety +7

    From a purely aesthetic standpoint, I'd say the Best Korean one have the advantage.

  • @cw3040
    @cw3040 Před 4 lety +37

    To speculate on the serial:
    Is it possible that the third and fourth digits are the country of export?
    So it'd be XXYYZZZZ
    Where the X denotes factory of origin, Y denotes export country (domestic guns omit these entirely), and Z is the serial

  • @JerryEricsson
    @JerryEricsson Před 4 lety +7

    I have always loved the 7.63X25 round, and that pistol really looks like it would be a neat plinker, however since it is so damn rare guess I shall never own one. Guess I should have kept the Tokorav that I had.

  • @zacharyrollick6169
    @zacharyrollick6169 Před 4 lety +1

    Wow, this is pretty innovative in some ways, for what it is.

  • @jefftuckercfii
    @jefftuckercfii Před 4 lety +2

    Very nice breakdown of a Type 68 showing all the ways it differs just slightly from the TT33 Tokarev. I just saw your video about turn of the century semiauto handguns and cartridges yesterday and can see the family resemblance between the TT33 and the Browning 1900. Then the Type 68 takes it a couple of steps farther with the threaded and peened barrel bushing, the 1911 style slide lock lever, and the Hi Power style barrel cam rather than the pivoting link. One thing about pronunciation though, I have it on good authority (as in Russians and Ukrainians I know personally) that Makarov is pronounced Ma-KAR-ov, stress on the middle syllable, not the first one. If you want to be the cool kid, that's the way you need to say it.

  • @bullyt2170
    @bullyt2170 Před 4 lety +1

    I m totaly fan of tokarev and variation 😍😍😍

  • @jeffgrey663
    @jeffgrey663 Před 2 lety

    That looks nice

  • @darkninjacorporation
    @darkninjacorporation Před 3 lety +2

    It’s like a combination of western and soviet aesthetics. I really like it ngl.

  • @alexanderwaterman4179
    @alexanderwaterman4179 Před 4 lety +3

    Ian, you should definitely do a backup gun match using the mag from one of these in a normal tokarev 😂😂

  • @tnekkc
    @tnekkc Před 4 lety +1

    From 2000 to 2005, I campaigned on gun forums that the Tokarev was stronger than the CZ52, contrary to load books of the time.

  • @BillMurray137
    @BillMurray137 Před 4 lety

    Thanks Tom. Please send Ian some more guns, we all know you have a secret stash now.

  • @nicholascarpenter6682
    @nicholascarpenter6682 Před 2 lety

    Really neat unit. Would like to have one.

  • @PhunkBustA
    @PhunkBustA Před 4 lety

    that hoop on the bottom of the mag is pretty clever

  • @B-System
    @B-System Před 4 lety

    This looks like quite a good pistol.

  • @sebastianwardana1527
    @sebastianwardana1527 Před rokem

    its worth waiting a long time...

  • @rodeanalfanteforcadela7645

    Great video as always. Though I'm bothered by what happened to your knuckle.

  • @bubbaphett3261
    @bubbaphett3261 Před 4 lety

    I really want one of these guns.

  • @singami465
    @singami465 Před 4 lety +47

    It'd be weird to ask North Koreans for consideration, but they could just cut out the magazine catch in their mags and make it completely interchangeable. It actually annoys me that they didn't.

    • @mrkeogh
      @mrkeogh Před 4 lety +29

      Much easier to shoot anyone who complains.

    • @titiparisien7485
      @titiparisien7485 Před 4 lety +4

      That's an unacceptable critic of the Will of the Great Leader Kim-Il-sung!!

    • @sir0herrbatka
      @sir0herrbatka Před 4 lety +2

      it is just a pistol so whatever.

    • @RiderOftheNorth1968
      @RiderOftheNorth1968 Před 4 lety +13

      Why?? It is a good idea to be able to use other nations magazine while they can´t use yours! It is smart of NK to do this.

  • @RustedCroaker
    @RustedCroaker Před 4 lety +3

    I was hoping to see a TT with a helical magazine!

  • @hiya_how_areya6436
    @hiya_how_areya6436 Před 3 lety +2

    Need to get it Zastava firearms so they can make this version

  • @darthtruk7206
    @darthtruk7206 Před 4 lety

    Very cool!

  • @memedumpster1402
    @memedumpster1402 Před 4 lety +1

    Ah they’re one number off from perfection

  • @atlantiswolf
    @atlantiswolf Před rokem +1

    My biggest issue is that now that I've seen the snub Tokarev with the more modern slide grip, I want one.

  • @badas45
    @badas45 Před 10 měsíci

    Very cool

  • @norpino7704
    @norpino7704 Před 3 lety

    I actually want some of these

  • @Redsuckerperdupa
    @Redsuckerperdupa Před 4 lety

    At 10:08 you can also see a, what I would say, a scratched number (what I would recon say is a "1643") and a stamped digit (more specifically a "3") on the hammer itself.

  • @keithallardice6139
    @keithallardice6139 Před 4 lety +6

    What an interesting firearm … who'd have thought it?!? Looks cool as well .. I wonder how it shoots..

    • @sparkplug1018
      @sparkplug1018 Před 4 lety

      Should handle like any other Tokarev pattern pistol, maybe a slightly snappier recoil because the barrel is shorter, but I doubt it would be noticeable.

  • @markandrews6567
    @markandrews6567 Před 4 lety +2

    Be good to see the quality of the rifling. But imagine pretty good the barrel looked the best quality part.

  • @ThatguyZim
    @ThatguyZim Před 4 lety

    Zastava makes an awfully similar version of this exact same pistol thats called the Zastava M88a. Its also chambered in 9mm. I know all this cause i've actually owned one for the past 5 years. Good little gun that also makes for a good CC

  • @MrLDC1
    @MrLDC1 Před 4 lety +15

    North Korea/ DPRK uses it's own calendar( Juche year) with 1912 (year of Kim Il Sung's birth) being Juche year 1 and so on- I was wondering if that might have some relevance with the number on the side? (eg 82 would be 1993)

    • @MarvinCZ
      @MarvinCZ Před 4 lety

      That doesn't really fit. 1953 for the code 41 is still too early and 1993 is too late.

  • @jameswhite153
    @jameswhite153 Před 4 lety

    I literally bumped into this video. didn't show up in my notifications.

  • @beng7654
    @beng7654 Před 3 lety

    This would be nice, my edc was a tokarev up til last week.

  • @stumpymcstumpstump3503
    @stumpymcstumpstump3503 Před 2 lety +1

    They might be using the juche calendar for the dates

  • @Tomoyuki473
    @Tomoyuki473 Před 4 lety

    Wow another gun I never knew existed... 😱
    Prob unlikely to get your hands on one anytime soon. But since Japan just adopted the new Type 20, I love to see a video on the Type 89 and Japans post-war firearms! :)

  • @danieljob3184
    @danieljob3184 Před rokem

    I actually used to own a Tiawanese water pistol version of one of these.

  • @thomashill1340
    @thomashill1340 Před 4 lety

    I dont even care much for guns but I love your videos!

  • @vanukas8783
    @vanukas8783 Před 4 lety

    Its name breaks my heart

  • @taskforcekarma6945
    @taskforcekarma6945 Před 4 lety +1

    North Korea also has a Type 68 Rifle which is a locally made version of the AKM.

  • @johnw1078
    @johnw1078 Před 4 lety +1

    Alright, lets get this out onto a tray, nice, mmkay

  • @terranempire2
    @terranempire2 Před 4 lety

    Keep hoping for a cz75 video

  • @cnppreactorno.4965
    @cnppreactorno.4965 Před 4 lety

    Actually epic

  • @kur4325
    @kur4325 Před rokem +2

    If I was ever hired to smuggle sanctioned goods into North Korea, I would ask for a few surplus crates of these as payment.

    • @Jason-fm4my
      @Jason-fm4my Před 10 měsíci +1

      It's probably better to start your own anti-western communist country and ask for these as military aid.

    • @ianfinrir8724
      @ianfinrir8724 Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@@Jason-fm4myToo much paperwork.

  • @MrCivildefense
    @MrCivildefense Před 4 lety +16

    that date probably isnt our julian calandar its probably the year of juche marked on there

    • @beavisbutt-headson3223
      @beavisbutt-headson3223 Před 4 lety +6

      But year 41 would be 1953 (i.e. before this gun was invented) and the Juche calendar wasn't adopted until 1997
      Also, (unless you're an orthodox priest or from well in the past) we're using the Gregorian calendar now

  • @TheGophernutzz
    @TheGophernutzz Před 4 lety

    The military model with the year could Juche(think I spelled right). 1912 is Juche 1. 1913 is Juche 2. You get the idea. As Ian said very little is actually known.

  • @cks7839
    @cks7839 Před 4 lety

    Baek Doo San pistol was adopted while Kim Jung Il (Jung Eun's old man) in power, 1992. Baek Doo San is the tallest mountain in Korean peninsula. In south Korea, some numbers of NK spies were caught with this pistol and essentially a direct copy of CZ75

  • @11Kralle
    @11Kralle Před 4 lety

    It looks more as it would be a 7-digit serial xxxx / yyy - judging from the spaces next to the oblique stroke [and from the typeset choosen (the numeral one should consist of two lines)]...

  • @QuasiTraction
    @QuasiTraction Před 4 lety +5

    Wow. I'm continually impressed on how you're able to source DPRK versions of Soviet weaponry.
    I wonder why they went with a "heel" style magazine release instead of the "button" style like the original TT-30/33.
    Machining/production costs, perhaps?

    • @soldat2501
      @soldat2501 Před 4 lety +4

      You guessed it. A lot quicker, cheaper, and easier to produce. Whoever owns the pistol probably won't survive long enough to load a second mag anyway.

    • @heavilyarmedhippie75
      @heavilyarmedhippie75 Před 2 lety +4

      @@soldat2501 not from combat however. They starve to death

  • @davidedward10
    @davidedward10 Před 4 lety

    Ohh, Ian, what did you do to your knuckle?? I see a rather big cut on it.

  • @ben501st
    @ben501st Před 4 lety

    Could the Type 68 designation be for the export model? Somewhat reminds me of CZ82/83.

  • @Matt_The_Hugenot
    @Matt_The_Hugenot Před 4 lety

    Interesting how to your appreciation of NK pistols has changed in the last five years.

  • @berzerkinglemur6534
    @berzerkinglemur6534 Před 3 lety

    I have a question about the Tokarev 33 (7,62X25 mm) pistol. I fired a Polish version of this pistol once and strange things happened. We used old ammunition that was stored in the garage. Probably the gunpowder caught moisture, because sometimes after pressing the trigger, the cartridge fired efter even more than a second delay (I do not need to explain what impression it made on an inexperienced shooter :-). But it is about something else. I noticed that the casings were burned right through after firing. There was a thin, oblong hole about 4 mm long on the upper part of the casing's neck. What is this phenomenon called, what was it caused by?

  • @ChrisFoley0803
    @ChrisFoley0803 Před 4 lety

    Hi ! Do not forget to show us the real TT-30 or TT-33 some day !

  • @donbuchanan4958
    @donbuchanan4958 Před 4 lety

    They may of gotten help with the replacement CZ copy from China as Norinco make very good copies of the CZ, I have a copy of the CZ-85 in .40s&w fantastic gun very solid and accurate gun.

  • @slade9372
    @slade9372 Před 4 lety

    Saw one of these in a museum in South Korea years ago and knew it had to be unique to North Korea. Never knew what it was until now!

  • @on2wheels378
    @on2wheels378 Před 4 lety +3

    BAEK-DU-SAN, a DPRK 9mm. Did they ever come up for auction? Anywhere. Their copy of a CZ75 9mm Parabellum pistol.

  • @iwishiwishiwasafishy
    @iwishiwishiwasafishy Před 4 lety

    I feel like I may be missing something, why have a barrel bushing at all if it is peened in place? It isn't stamped to need an extra insert. In the brief glace I didn't see anything needing the slightly bigger hole for machining. Why not just make the hole the right size to begin with an drop the extra part?

  • @sjoormen1
    @sjoormen1 Před 4 lety

    This I like. How good is it?

  • @ac1dP1nk
    @ac1dP1nk Před 4 lety

    10:07 there is a faint number on the hammer you missed '1043'

  • @puppetguy8726
    @puppetguy8726 Před 2 měsíci

    Year 41 in North Korea is 1956, they have their own calendar.

  • @seriousGeex
    @seriousGeex Před 4 lety +1

    Externally it looks a lot like a Zastava M88 in 7.62x25mm

  • @n64fan60
    @n64fan60 Před 3 lety

    11:16 *"Baek Du-San"*
    That's a character from Tekken lol!