Zastava's M90: The Serbian M70 Updated to 5.56mm

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    Zastava has been making AK rifles in Serbia (formerly Yugoslavia) since the 1960s, and today has a number of offerings made for the commercial market. One of the recent ones is the M90 (or more specifically, the PAPM90PS). This is a 5.56mm rifle fundamentally based on the M70 pattern. It uses Serbian magazines (not interchangeable with other types of 5.56mm AK magazine) and comes with a combination of modern Hogue and Magpul furniture as well as a left-side optics mounting rail. It does also include as 3-position gas regulator like on the Yugoslav M76. Several military M70 features have been removed for importation, including the bayonet lug and night sights.
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  • @pathfinder2reality
    @pathfinder2reality Před 2 lety +547

    "It might be a bit overgassed"
    Ian picking up brass in onother County.

    • @mihailosaranovic5444
      @mihailosaranovic5444 Před 2 lety +60

      More like the brass goblin travelling to another county only to realize he's been chasing steel casings.

    • @asdasd-ty9se
      @asdasd-ty9se Před 2 lety +4

      *another

    • @sharonrigs7999
      @sharonrigs7999 Před 2 lety +18

      My SVT40 yeets brass into another time zone

    • @KarlEller
      @KarlEller Před 2 lety +11

      Another county? I think some of those cases reached orbit.

    • @moistjohn
      @moistjohn Před 2 lety +8

      Are we talking standard ak brass launching or is it closer to the g3 space program?

  • @ilyaskr8048
    @ilyaskr8048 Před 2 lety +1099

    Black handguard: exist
    Ian: Is it tactical?

  • @t.maximilianwaechter3208
    @t.maximilianwaechter3208 Před 2 lety +1082

    I see you are familiar with the red army approved AK maintenance technique, "Smack it against a rock until it works"

    • @secretpandalord
      @secretpandalord Před 2 lety +102

      Good old "percussive maintenance".

    • @han5vk
      @han5vk Před 2 lety +15

      @@secretpandalord That mag was not a skookum choocher.

    • @mikehipperson
      @mikehipperson Před 2 lety +12

      Or a Brum (Birmingham UK) screwdriver! (a large hammer or mallet!)

    • @MrGreghome
      @MrGreghome Před 2 lety +11

      @@secretpandalord I tried doing that to my grandpa last summer. They sent to my jail for it.

    • @hippoace
      @hippoace Před 2 lety +1

      czcams.com/video/bmv_scrxf0g/video.html
      watch @11:15, russian magic trick, self firing ak

  • @rediius
    @rediius Před 2 lety +475

    Slight correction, all the way down on an AK safety lever is traditionally semi auto, and the middle position is full auto. But it obviously doesn't matter if it's a semi only trigger so it looks like the factory has decided that you didn't need the long throw. That's a thoughtful touch!

    • @rediius
      @rediius Před 2 lety +160

      Oh, and speaking of the thoughtful safety, you can leave it on safe and pull the charging handle. The extractor will come back far enough to eject the chambered round but not far enough to pick up the next one still in the magazine, so you can clear a Zastava rifle without dropping the mag or turning the safety off. The Serbs put some serious engineering into their designs!

    • @shawnr771
      @shawnr771 Před 2 lety +21

      @@rediius now that is a pretty cool feature.

    • @stevenbobbybills
      @stevenbobbybills Před 2 lety +9

      Was hoping someone would point this out.

    • @michaelnolan6054
      @michaelnolan6054 Před 2 lety +10

      Yeah, I always liked the philosophy of- "If I need full auto, I need it NOW! (1 st position after safe)" If I have the time, semi-auto will wait.

    • @stevenbobbybills
      @stevenbobbybills Před 2 lety +67

      @@michaelnolan6054 it's actually the exact opposite. Semi is all the way down because it isn't a fine motor movement, it's just a full push. Full-auto in the middle is intended to be a deliberate action. The idea was that a soldier under pressure wouldn't accidentally engage full auto, as full auto is usually not the best solution and will make a panicked solider waste ammo, making them more likely to end up with an empty weapon at the worst possible time.

  • @member5488
    @member5488 Před 2 lety +319

    The empty cases looked like they were being ejected on an arc that will take them close to the ISS.

    • @juliancantarelli
      @juliancantarelli Před 2 lety +18

      It double as an "Anti Drone" gun.

    • @Georgewilliamherbert
      @Georgewilliamherbert Před 2 lety +6

      They almost looked like they were bouncing off Ian’s hat to me. But hard to tell.

    • @dbmail545
      @dbmail545 Před 2 lety +5

      I thought that they were hitting his hat, but realized that was the muzzle blast

    • @PitchBlackYeti
      @PitchBlackYeti Před 2 lety +2

      The Serbian infantry version of "Schraege Musik" system

    • @kiriusview9251
      @kiriusview9251 Před 2 lety

      Sovijet Space-Program resurgent.

  • @newevolution
    @newevolution Před 2 lety +210

    "A bit overgassed" yeah, it's WHIPPING those cases across the range.

    • @codycigar6542
      @codycigar6542 Před 2 lety +5

      Honestly, my NPAP M70 whips cases across the range as well lmao.

    • @DRockDreamin
      @DRockDreamin Před 2 lety

      Same with mine. Even on setting 1...

    • @SnekPlskin
      @SnekPlskin Před 2 lety

      Good thing its got an adjustable gas block

    • @mikejohnson555
      @mikejohnson555 Před 4 měsíci

      Honestly it just has very aggressive extractor, it doesn't even have to be very over gassed to do that. I practice with snap caps indoor with my m90, just pulling the charging handle back to eject one will launch it across my living room into the ceiling, and I am not slamming it back to be clear, it just has a insane ejection system. There is a downside though, the really aggressive extraction tends to dent up cases, not good if you reload, but on the flip side, very reliable and isn't going to have failures to eject.

  • @northernu.s.a3995
    @northernu.s.a3995 Před 2 lety +35

    OMG!!! ANOTHER ZASTAVA VIDEO! BEST TWO WEEKS EVER!

  • @luckygunnerx30
    @luckygunnerx30 Před 2 lety +80

    I bought an M90 a few weeks ago and it has quickly became my Favorite AK. After break in you can run it on Gas setting 1 all the time and it is extremely soft shooting. I ditched the slant brake as well. For mags Ive used all the Zastava mags , Ac Unity, Galil mags, and circle 10 without issue. Shooting is suppressed is awesome as well. It might be the quietest 5.56 gun I’ve ever shot

    • @ShowMeYourLizardFace
      @ShowMeYourLizardFace Před 2 lety +1

      Galil mags dont work for me, they seem to sit a bit too low.

    • @luckygunnerx30
      @luckygunnerx30 Před 2 lety

      @@ShowMeYourLizardFace luck of the draw it seems

    • @jakesoros2376
      @jakesoros2376 Před 2 lety

      What changes did you make to your Circle 10 magazines for them to fit?

    • @luckygunnerx30
      @luckygunnerx30 Před 2 lety +2

      @@jakesoros2376 I didn’t have to make any changes they are just a little tight

    • @jakesoros2376
      @jakesoros2376 Před 2 lety

      @@luckygunnerx30 Really? Wow.

  • @GeassX
    @GeassX Před 2 lety +38

    "A little over-gassed"
    *Meanwhile on the ISS*
    "Are those spent steel casings?"

    • @AlenB29
      @AlenB29 Před 2 lety

      now we know how serbs have shot down the f-117 nighthawk it all makes sense now

    • @royal011
      @royal011 Před 2 lety

      @@AlenB29 ha ha ha, as a Serbian, I can tell you that that was just done by chance, or better said, a statistical error :-)

    • @AlenB29
      @AlenB29 Před 2 lety

      @@royal011 that was done by a skilled anti air crew :3

  • @thedumbguncollector5546
    @thedumbguncollector5546 Před 2 lety +227

    Definitely get the steel mags, the plastic ones are all over the place in terms of quality. The metal mags lock up like a sig 550.

    • @samholdsworth3957
      @samholdsworth3957 Před 2 lety +13

      You know *dumb* and *gun collector* shouldn't go together 🤣

    • @willybober2
      @willybober2 Před 2 lety +1

      Agreed, I got the plastic ones and they don't sit real happy

    • @toddbrooks515
      @toddbrooks515 Před 2 lety +5

      Do Arsenal or AC Unity Mags work in these m90’s?

    • @belyayevsfox4753
      @belyayevsfox4753 Před 2 lety +5

      Or use a 3D printer to make your own mags

    • @thedumbguncollector5546
      @thedumbguncollector5546 Před 2 lety +9

      @@belyayevsfox4753 I’m sure I couldn’t make any mags I would trust

  • @spooksmalloy
    @spooksmalloy Před 2 lety +102

    It's not overgassed, it's a combination infantry weapon with anti-air capabilities

    • @yamahawarrior89
      @yamahawarrior89 Před 7 měsíci

      Mine was overgassed, had to create a custom 5 position gas regulator to reduce the overgassing, especially suppressed:
      czcams.com/video/Ymo_XJwtU0s/video.html

  • @SerbianMenace
    @SerbianMenace Před 2 lety +55

    Thanks for showing this gun! My first ak I bought was a zastava z-pap m70, since I am of Serbian heritage and it felt like a point of pride to have a Serbian made gun

    • @stevev1758
      @stevev1758 Před 2 lety +3

      ditto for me

    • @ajack1889
      @ajack1889 Před rokem +3

      I just recently bought a ZPAP M92 for my first AK pistol
      and I love it. Zastava makes a damn good gun, the thicker receiver is awesome. Thing's built like a tank.

  • @neb6005
    @neb6005 Před 2 lety +152

    “its annoying so we’ll” *Yeets Stock* “get rid of that”

  • @MosoKaiser
    @MosoKaiser Před 2 lety +96

    That pre-intro segment is basically Ian going "njet, rifle is fine". :D

    • @OlujaDoTokija
      @OlujaDoTokija Před 2 lety +2

      Not really, he left the Magpul grip on it instead of an authentic AK pistol grip

  • @TheSkipjack95
    @TheSkipjack95 Před 2 lety +190

    "I'm just not sure I'm comfortable with tactical furniture on an AK".
    Or to put it another way : "nyet, rifle is fine"

  • @Yenecol
    @Yenecol Před 2 lety +46

    Forgotten Weapons... ah yes, Ian shows me weapons I forgot to buy! Silly me, I go to gun shop now.

  • @nikolapetrovic4814
    @nikolapetrovic4814 Před 2 lety +28

    I used the 7.62 M70ab2 with folding stock in the Serbian army. Never had any problems with it, no jams or anything, always clean it right after use. Serbian army is using homemade Prvi Partizan (PPU) ammo.

    • @eyzmin
      @eyzmin Před rokem

      PPU is great ammo, we use it in the US all the time, high quality brass and affordable

    • @NemyacX
      @NemyacX Před 11 měsíci +1

      @@eyzmin PPU 7.62x39 is like 50% more than tula 7.62, it is not affordable

    • @robrob9050
      @robrob9050 Před 18 dny +1

      You mean domestic PPU ammo?😊

    • @nikolapetrovic4814
      @nikolapetrovic4814 Před 18 dny

      @@robrob9050 yeah, domestic.
      Homemade and domestic is the same word in Serbian

    • @robrob9050
      @robrob9050 Před 18 dny

      @@nikolapetrovic4814 You can't speak English as Serbian 😆

  • @otaconarcadia7372
    @otaconarcadia7372 Před 2 lety +79

    That was a good opening, I did not expect the cut after the title card.

  • @AsbestosMuffins
    @AsbestosMuffins Před 2 lety +359

    Failure to Feed: Hit with rock
    Failure to Eject: Also hit with rock
    Failure to Fire: Is AK, this doesn't happen.

    • @AtlasJotun
      @AtlasJotun Před 2 lety +11

      TulAmmo's over-set primers beg to differ! Although we won't have to worry about that much longer :.(

    • @cnlbenmc
      @cnlbenmc Před 2 lety +5

      Laughs in InRangeTV AK Mud Test.

    • @allday1377
      @allday1377 Před 2 lety +2

      @@AtlasJotun i shoot old yugo ammo ppu from 50 60 that was brought from war and those primers are dog shit

    • @krkan5241
      @krkan5241 Před 2 lety +1

      @@allday1377 They are dog shit because they are like from middle of 20th century...newer ones are much better and soooo good

    • @KBKriechbaum
      @KBKriechbaum Před 2 lety +1

      Classic example of what stereotypes are doing to the peoples understanding of the physical world. The AK is just another rifle that happens to be widespread, because it is simple and cheap. However, there is other firearms that supass its reliability.

  • @_blento_2637
    @_blento_2637 Před 2 lety +63

    Zastava AK guns were also called a female “gypsy”. In Yugo wars back in early 1990’s, we (Croats) were all looking to get hand on Serbian AK as it was extremely reliable compared to Romanian and Hungarian AK 47 versions. If you would shoot two full magazines from either Romanian or Hungarian and press the barrel against the wall, the barrel wall band. That was not the case with the Serbian model. Later in the war we got some guns from Argentina and (East) Germany and a few other countries but nothing of that beat the reliability of AK models.

    • @guypierson5754
      @guypierson5754 Před 2 lety +9

      This is the truth to AK. The good ones are the best guns in their niche. The bad ones are so bad it goes thru funny into dangerous.

    • @HeartPumper
      @HeartPumper Před 2 lety +20

      I may kinda upset someone, but coming also from a former "commie land". We considered everything Yugo, as to almost with a par with the Western stuff.

    • @altergreenhorn
      @altergreenhorn Před 2 lety +5

      You got quite a lot of Yugo AK from Slovenia back in late 91 and also in the 92. I personally saw few shipment thru Macelj and Dubrava.
      Croatia itself had also a lot of Yugo AK in warehouses for the home guard units unfortaly Croatian government allowed Yugoslav military to size them back in the 1990 early 1991. Majority of those guns was later (2012/13) shipped from Croatia to the Syria on the US request.

    • @VojislavMoranic
      @VojislavMoranic Před 2 lety +12

      @@altergreenhorn My father was in Vukovar and he says officers from both sides used to sell each other shit by the truckload.

    • @alexandruianu8432
      @alexandruianu8432 Před 2 lety +11

      That's because AKM pattern guns have thin barrels to save weight. It's considered a good tradeoff on any modern rifle. Zastava kept the old AK pattern barrels which are closer to LMG or sniper rifle barrels.

  • @shonemumy
    @shonemumy Před 2 lety +47

    I'm quite sure it is overgassed by design -when it gets a bit clogged and dirty, it'll run perfectly.

    • @mtnbound2764
      @mtnbound2764 Před 2 lety +1

      yeah, just put a few thousand of those wolf steel cases though it, itll start to break in!

    • @shonemumy
      @shonemumy Před 2 lety +4

      ​@@mtnbound2764 Brass only. For reasons unknown, it really hates steel.

    • @zachmartinez7436
      @zachmartinez7436 Před 2 lety +5

      To me steel just runs a little dirtier because brass creates a way better seal and doesn't leave nearly as much residue so I think over time the steel casings end up clogging it a bit.

    • @shomiiii96
      @shomiiii96 Před rokem +1

      ​@@shonemumy I'll quote a guy from above...
      'Serb assault rifles use brass-cased lead-core ammo, which results in improved accuracy, better terminal ballistics and a 100 feet faster bullet than the steel cased one.'

  • @simulatedbob9796
    @simulatedbob9796 Před 2 lety +239

    I remember some video ago Ian saying "Please don't show this to Brandon Herera!". Ever since I really wish the two would do a colab video even if it's just for fun and giggles.

    • @DDdrifter
      @DDdrifter Před 2 lety +27

      I agree completely and would like to suggest having Ian review the "Krinkov" that was "the worst" and Brandon fixed.

    • @antesosic1600
      @antesosic1600 Před 2 lety +2

      Yes, we all want that

    • @Gronbar6
      @Gronbar6 Před 2 lety +23

      Herera is a poser.

    • @Martinlegend
      @Martinlegend Před 2 lety +9

      there are lot of other Ytbers that i would like to see with ian on one screen - Brandon is nice but i like Garand Thumb more - the historian and the shooter seems to be a nice combo

    • @smackarel7
      @smackarel7 Před 2 lety +8

      What would be cool would be Brandon seeing Ian's true Kalashnabren, a BREN gun rechambered for 7.62×39

  • @LUR1FAX
    @LUR1FAX Před 2 lety +21

    Zastava sure makes a TON of neat stuff!

  • @geodkyt
    @geodkyt Před 2 lety +201

    Never been a fan of relying on US made magazine parts for 922(r) compliance. Even though I've never heard of anyone getting jammed up by 922(r) because they used the "wrong" magazine from their stash.
    (For that matter, I don't recall hearing of any cases where an individual ran into 922(r) enforcement, unless the charge was added as a cherry on top of a while cornucopia of other gun charges and they happened to find out he had too many "scary imported parts" after they'd already siezed the gun for the other violations. AFAIK, that particular code section has only been used to force importers and distributors to change configurations, or as an easily disposable "plea bargain" charge to add leverage to the prosecution in pressure a plea deal.)

    • @TheFanatical1
      @TheFanatical1 Před 2 lety +25

      I asked Ian about this on a previous video and he said he'd never heard of anyone getting strung up for it either. Does seem like a kitchen sink sort of scenario is the only one.

    • @dbmail545
      @dbmail545 Před 2 lety +42

      It's a sales thing, the BATFE only demands 9.22r compliance from the importer. My 5.45 ACE came with a Magpul magazine that will never be taken out of its wrapper.

    • @gsrawson
      @gsrawson Před 2 lety +8

      The mags are made in Serbia by Tora, so that's not it

    • @blaiseuriarte8296
      @blaiseuriarte8296 Před 2 lety +4

      Why would anyone let the feds inspect the inside of their firearm?

    • @boomerisadog3899
      @boomerisadog3899 Před 2 lety +20

      @@blaiseuriarte8296 They'll do what they want with them once they seize them. You can try to stop them but they'll be happy to kill you, your dog, and as many members of your family as they can get away with.

  • @michaels5210
    @michaels5210 Před 2 lety +9

    Picked up an M90 myself. It’s my first foray into AK’s and I love the hell out of it. Haven’t had any problems with any of the steel I’ve put through it

  • @Sgt.MajorDani
    @Sgt.MajorDani Před 2 lety +21

    U always make me happy when u play around with serbian or swedish weapons =) Cause im half / half and both countrys make good arms. Thank you

  • @gsrawson
    @gsrawson Před 2 lety +8

    Owning one of these rifles, I can attest to the fact that most 5.56 AK magazine will infact work. Bulgarian, Romanian WASR3/SAR3, AC Unity, Polish WBP and Beryl etc. The only mags I found to not work are Chinese and Promag

  • @GrendalTheBeasty
    @GrendalTheBeasty Před 2 lety +25

    I got one of these last week, only 180 rounds through it so far (brass case, half 5.56, half 223). Accuracy is as good as me with irons, mine is straight, requiring only a slight adjustment of the front sight to zero. It's also been 100% reliable on gas setting 2 with both a steel mag and the included plastic mag. I think Ian's problems are with that mag, seems like a lemon. I agree it's over gassed, haven't tried setting 1 yet but setting 2 seems too much. The manual recommends setting 3 for the first few hundred rounds, which for mine is certainly excessive though maybe not with Tula 223. I might have to copy Ian and get the wood furniture, very pretty like that :).

    • @GrendalTheBeasty
      @GrendalTheBeasty Před 2 lety +3

      Small update, put another 60 rounds through it yesterday on setting 1 without bothering to clean it after the last 180. It ran fine, 0 malfunctions and was far softer shooting. Shot 5.56 only this time. Once again I used brass cased, since brass is currently cheaper than steel due to people being dumb.

  • @NotDave_x
    @NotDave_x Před 2 lety +137

    They seem like great rifles, but the magazines also seem like they are a consistent point of failure. Would be interested in what you think about the steel mags for them.

    • @toddbrooks515
      @toddbrooks515 Před 2 lety +1

      Do Arsenal mags work in them? What about AC Unity?

    • @toddbrooks515
      @toddbrooks515 Před 2 lety +7

      @ They also have a clear version

    • @nitrosophelin
      @nitrosophelin Před 2 lety +11

      @@toddbrooks515 there are some videos here on CZcams that test arsenal and beryl mags in this rifle and from those I've seen, those mags work but are a little tight but seem to work just fine. I'd do some more research on them first though

    • @toddbrooks515
      @toddbrooks515 Před 2 lety +1

      @@nitrosophelin Thanks. I want one of these but don’t want to have to buy proprietary mags. I’ll probably just pay extra for a SAM5.

    • @gsrawson
      @gsrawson Před 2 lety +27

      @@toddbrooks515 my M90 feeds from damn near every mag I slap into it. The only ones I don't think it would work with would be Chinese ones, but Circle 10, AC Unity, Romanian WASR3/SAR3, Polish WBP and Beryl. They all work just fine.
      I'd take this over any 5.56 AK offering currently out there, and I used to own an Arsenal.

  • @420BulletSponge
    @420BulletSponge Před 2 lety +36

    Steel, wood and bakelite. The only ingredients suitable for my AK recipes.

  • @aregularperson7573
    @aregularperson7573 Před 2 lety +30

    Gun Jesus has blessed us with another video

  • @ivanstepanovic1327
    @ivanstepanovic1327 Před 2 lety +9

    This thing is a safe buy. It works just fine. Just get a proper working magazine.
    Also, I do recommend checking the M21 and later models, they are totally awesome and designed in 5.56 from the very start.

  • @briarus1000
    @briarus1000 Před 2 lety +10

    5 states away and im pretty sure those empty cases hit me.

  • @scienceguy8
    @scienceguy8 Před 2 lety +9

    If Ian thinks tactical polymer furniture on an AK is sacrilege, nobody tell him about vintage design lever action rifles with M-LOC fore-ends!

  • @Joe3pops
    @Joe3pops Před rokem +1

    The Cypriot National Guard standard issue along the line of the UN buffer zone was a Yugo or Serbian AK variant in 7.62x51mm in the late 1980s. Seen with 20 round magazines.

  • @kevinthacker9866
    @kevinthacker9866 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you Ian, for sharing your knowledge! My grandson is a left hander, and you've helped me understand how to help him!

  • @plumbbobslim9313
    @plumbbobslim9313 Před 2 lety +4

    When I bought my M70 ZPAP, I bought the one I did specifically because of the grain pattern of the butt stock. It has some beautiful grain structure in it.

  • @whoisgtsdk
    @whoisgtsdk Před 2 lety +8

    Another brilliant use of the "rock or something", magazine repair!

  • @rebeccaa2782
    @rebeccaa2782 Před 2 lety +19

    One of the coolest Yugo military photos I've seen is a Yugo paratrooper in the 80's equipped with what looks like a Sturmgewehr. Does anyone know more about this? I k ow Ian's done Sturmgewehr's before but not in the forgotten area of them in Yugoslavian military

    • @araneus32
      @araneus32 Před 2 lety +11

      Yes some units,mainly paratroopers, used confiscated Sturmgewers after WWII. The Germans had left a lot of equipment and it was used by Yugoslav army

    • @ZP1993
      @ZP1993 Před 2 lety +11

      From what I've heard,a number of STG44 rifles were captured by the Yugoslav partisans at the end of WW2,and they were later used by the 63rd paratrooper battalion of the Yugoslav army until the 1980s when they were replaced by the M70 (Yugoslav version of the AK),Yugoslavia then sold them to some countries in the middle east.

    • @arboreahyla
      @arboreahyla Před 2 lety +3

      Tunisia I think

    • @strahinjastevic7480
      @strahinjastevic7480 Před 2 lety +3

      @@arboreahyla Libya. Some were even seen in Syria/Iraq

    • @strahinjastevic7480
      @strahinjastevic7480 Před 2 lety +6

      Strangely enough PPU still makes ammo for those. Yes they kinda have a thing for niche calibres but i dont understand how it would be worth it

  • @GeneralRamstein
    @GeneralRamstein Před 2 lety +15

    Ian. you need to get the Warsaw stock. I threw that set from zastava on my M90 and it totally changed the look of the rifle.

  • @PltOffPPrune
    @PltOffPPrune Před 2 lety +21

    Is that Ian's shotgunning mate behind the camera at the end? We need more collabs with him in them.

  • @bebop_557
    @bebop_557 Před 2 lety +4

    I love how Ian and Matt Haught are just making videos together now

  • @Mihailop21
    @Mihailop21 Před rokem +1

    I work in company who made sights for M70 and others Zastava rifles. We truly make a effort to made high quality parts for M70...

  • @gamersunite7968
    @gamersunite7968 Před 2 lety +7

    I purchased one of these this week and it's a well made firearm. The only gripe I have with it is the magazines getting chewed up in the magwell when inserting or removing

  • @LeeThule
    @LeeThule Před 2 lety +42

    When the bolt is held open by the follower can it be locked in position by flipping the safety on? If so it would simplify removing the spent mag and dropping the bolt on a new mag.

    • @five5105
      @five5105 Před 2 lety +5

      No.

    • @ethinos2719
      @ethinos2719 Před 2 lety +12

      I have the Krebs improved safety on my ZPAP and the bolt needs to be all the way to the rear to engage the safety cutout. The follower tab doesn't stop the bolt far back enough for what you want.

    • @LeeThule
      @LeeThule Před 2 lety +7

      @@ethinos2719 Thanks for the answer Ethinos. I guess the AK manual of arms was never deigned to be high-speed low-drag.

    • @asdasd-ty9se
      @asdasd-ty9se Před 2 lety +3

      @@LeeThule it was, for one mag at a time

    • @tristanhodgden4286
      @tristanhodgden4286 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ethinos2719 would be cool if some companies made the safety work with last round hold open mags as a bolt release

  • @theloudestgun
    @theloudestgun Před 2 lety +3

    The wood furniture looks great!

  • @nikk5084
    @nikk5084 Před 2 lety +2

    Love how the monsoon is making the desert so green

  • @thriftshopper23
    @thriftshopper23 Před 2 lety +1

    I saw an M90 exactly like the tactical one at my local gun store. Fell in love with it but wanted an M70 so I bought one and set it up identically (minus the tango down grip that I actually prefer to mp. I absolutely love it and can't wait to continue the build. I want a Midwest Industries handguard but have not been able to find one in stock.

  • @ivicamilosavljevic4706
    @ivicamilosavljevic4706 Před 2 lety +3

    Just to Salute You from the Kragujevac/Serbia - hometown of Zastava arms ;)

  • @MajGenAtlas
    @MajGenAtlas Před 2 lety +57

    Ian are you able to explain the different side rail standards on AK patterns?

    • @F1ghteR41
      @F1ghteR41 Před 2 lety +5

      @Otac Tadej The front grip with little gripping surface when you're wearing gloves and no chrome in the barrel? Dubious improvements, I'd say.

    • @brianhoxworth3881
      @brianhoxworth3881 Před 2 lety

      This is chrome lined I believe.

    • @F1ghteR41
      @F1ghteR41 Před 2 lety +1

      @@brianhoxworth3881 They only added chrome lining in their most recent commercial models, as far as I've heard, although don't quote me on M21 and M17/M19.

    • @Voraciouscommentary
      @Voraciouscommentary Před 2 lety +2

      @@F1ghteR41 M21’s are chrome lined. Zastava switched to chrome lined everything in the 80’s when the OG M70’s started rotting away with around 2 years of use with Serbian ground forces. Robert forbus has a handful of posts on the AK files explaining the multitude of other factors to the switch of chrome lining but ammo was a huge one aswell. Yugo M67 is the most corrosive 7.62 I have ever seen actually fielded and same with the Yugo 9MM ammunition they used in their handguns.

    • @F1ghteR41
      @F1ghteR41 Před 2 lety

      @@Voraciouscommentary Ah, good to know, thanks a lot.

  • @austinarvanitis8226
    @austinarvanitis8226 Před 2 lety

    THAMK YOU IAN !!! I know they’re a numerous amount of people that believe in the same. Like so many others, I just appreciate the craftsmanship and the classic look of wood furniture on ak’s and even some of the early AR’s. P.S. your channel is also the reason I had help in finding my CETME from Israel and I do very appreciate all the hard work you put into your channel !!!

  • @samuelneese482
    @samuelneese482 Před 2 lety +2

    Hmm that longer sight radius is a nice benefit of the longer barrel. Glad that they pushed the front sight forward rather than just extending the barrel past the standard AK sight.

  • @tynado1173
    @tynado1173 Před 2 lety +19

    I just picked one up. I really like it. Great timing with new Russian ammo ban

    • @dbmail545
      @dbmail545 Před 2 lety +5

      Which is why Ian was shooting it with banned ammo. I always wondered about brass cases in AK's. My SKS was notorious about tearing the heads off brass cases on extraction. Only ever shot steel in my 5.45 guns. I have 200 rounds of brass cased 5.45x39 but I haven't shot any of it.

    • @gingergorilla695
      @gingergorilla695 Před 2 lety +5

      @Starac Pajsije and hopefully when we start buying so much Serbian 🇷🇸 ammo, they'll flood the market more than the Russians ever could

    • @sharonrigs7999
      @sharonrigs7999 Před 2 lety +2

      @Otac Tadej I love PPU ammo. The brass reloads well and last a long time

  • @sethy5136
    @sethy5136 Před 2 lety +34

    Lol i like the wood look alot more too. Gotta admit the folding stock is alot more useful than the fixed stock

    • @chrisspencer6502
      @chrisspencer6502 Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah, if you're an operator however of like most Ak owners you mag dump into trash or run round the 🏜️ or jungle in high-speed low drag flip flops a solid stock should affect you too much.

    • @RichardCranium321
      @RichardCranium321 Před 2 lety +11

      While you "can" shoot it with the stock folded, I would argue the fixed setup is more useful for the end user. Folding stock is useful for logistics and mobility, not for shooting...

    • @aggrodkreg4321
      @aggrodkreg4321 Před 2 lety +4

      @@chrisspencer6502 I like folding stocks for storage. Having lived in apartments and barracks at various points in my life, you learn to appreciate space, and how to maximize it.

    • @RichardCranium321
      @RichardCranium321 Před 2 lety +1

      @@aggrodkreg4321 you don't keep your rifle in a safe?

    • @aggrodkreg4321
      @aggrodkreg4321 Před 2 lety

      @@RichardCranium321 yes, but there was a time in my life I didn't have the space for a safe that could store full-length rifles. I also have logistical challenges that most people living in the mainland do not.

  • @Guhonter
    @Guhonter Před 2 lety

    That gun sounds so very nice and the recoil is butter smooth! What great gun!

  • @dtheguy
    @dtheguy Před 2 lety

    Finally a review and test fire in the save videos

  • @cappuccinokripperinokriop7436

    Now this is great AK. I wish zastava sold to other markets and not only US.

    • @gingergorilla695
      @gingergorilla695 Před 2 lety +7

      To be fair, what other markets?

    • @Scathach666
      @Scathach666 Před 2 lety +6

      yeah, dont you know the usa is the only country that exists on the entire globe?

    • @demonprinces17
      @demonprinces17 Před 2 lety +2

      What other markets

    • @cappuccinokripperinokriop7436
      @cappuccinokripperinokriop7436 Před 2 lety +5

      Im from Croatia and zastava only sells Hunting garbage here.

    • @KristianHerdi
      @KristianHerdi Před 2 lety +3

      They don't sell M90 in Serbia even.Especially in that configuration because pistol grips and 30 round mags are illegal here.

  • @monkegames6133
    @monkegames6133 Před 2 lety +4

    Kill one enemy with the bullet - kill one friendly with the casing

    • @azanjac
      @azanjac Před 2 lety

      The "friendly" was a western spy anyways.

    • @AP-qs2zf
      @AP-qs2zf Před 2 lety

      @@azanjac No it was a serb. So no foul :)

  • @jefferythomas4414
    @jefferythomas4414 Před 2 lety +2

    That adjustable gas block would be a nice aftermarket improvement on my PSL.

  • @bennettcastleberry1658
    @bennettcastleberry1658 Před 2 lety +1

    I just ran my M90 at the range for the first time and had the gas set on 3 for the first 200 rounds then set it down to 2 for regular use. The rifle did have a feed issue or two that I believed to be the mag but after I set the gas to 2 the rifle ate everything with no issues. I guess it needs a little tough love at first to settle in. Great vid gun Jesus, keep it up.

  • @calvingreene90
    @calvingreene90 Před 2 lety +10

    It doesn't look like it would be too difficult to add a forth gas setting or partially plug one.

    • @dbmail545
      @dbmail545 Před 2 lety +5

      I was surprised that there was not a "0" setting for rifle grenades. Those are useful for shooting suppressed even though it turns the gun into a straight pull bolt action.

    • @vasilije94
      @vasilije94 Před 2 lety +4

      @@dbmail545 There is no 0 setting because its not full military rifle but cut down version for civilian market.

  • @ryankozarich6968
    @ryankozarich6968 Před rokem +3

    Magpul needs to up their ak mag game...

  • @jasonz7788
    @jasonz7788 Před 2 lety

    Awesome thanks for the great work

  • @loupiscanis9449
    @loupiscanis9449 Před 2 lety

    Thank you ,Ian .

  • @davidrodgers9800
    @davidrodgers9800 Před 2 lety +5

    I agree with how the gun is gassed I've been running it on setting one and it runs great and still chucks the cases , recoil is much more pleasant. Way nicer rifle then my wasr3 for sure.

  • @slavicgondola1817
    @slavicgondola1817 Před 2 lety +8

    Are you going to do a video on the Zastava m85 as well they’re a really cool take on the “krink”

    • @StefanBlagojevic
      @StefanBlagojevic Před 2 lety +1

      Unicycles 😲? Unicycles!!! 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆🤣🤣🤣

  • @TheWoodyjeep
    @TheWoodyjeep Před 2 lety

    Other 5.56 mags work perfectly with some light file work. Have several circle 10’s that have just enough filing to run in Zastavas but still runs great in other platforms.

  • @TreacherousFennec
    @TreacherousFennec Před 2 lety +2

    i dont think anyone can replace the quality jokes and detailed videos Ian pulls out.

  • @aggrodkreg4321
    @aggrodkreg4321 Před 2 lety +14

    I like the MOE stock over the Zhukov. Bonesteel makes a better folding stock if you absolutely need one for your AK with minimal effort.

    • @bombsawaylemay770
      @bombsawaylemay770 Před 2 lety +2

      Bonesteel is vastly superior to the Magpul Zhukov. It's worth the wait time.

    • @boomerisadog3899
      @boomerisadog3899 Před 2 lety +2

      @@bombsawaylemay770 I won't argue that it's better but the Zukov is cheaper than Bonesteel and works well for how I use my ak. I don't much like the Magpul MOE ak stock.

    • @bombsawaylemay770
      @bombsawaylemay770 Před 2 lety +2

      @@boomerisadog3899 try it out, you will probably like it. The Zhukov I had a few years ago had plastic locking lugs for the folding mechanism that wore out. Bonesteel is metal, absolutely solid lockup.

    • @aggrodkreg4321
      @aggrodkreg4321 Před 2 lety

      @@ADUSN there's wait times now? Jesus.

  • @mafiosomemer3730
    @mafiosomemer3730 Před 2 lety +4

    The NP variant can use STANAG when you want to with shoot Vietnam-era 20 round mags

  • @FreedomTimes4130
    @FreedomTimes4130 Před 2 lety

    Getting one of these next week. Can't wait. I wanna put a wood handgaurd on mine too

  • @d30gaijin
    @d30gaijin Před rokem +1

    I bought my Zastava M90 in "Serbian Red" wood finish. A very handsome rifle... and it shoots as good as it looks.

  • @0815Skorpio
    @0815Skorpio Před 2 lety +25

    "If it cant handle the steel, it doesnt deserve the brass" - AK Daddy

    • @fatefinger
      @fatefinger Před 2 lety +2

      Too bad there will be no more steel.

  • @maximusmeridius6409
    @maximusmeridius6409 Před 2 lety +4

    Gotta love it when gun Jesus gets openly opinionated. I like how you have your rifle set up. Also magpul pistol grip is a win.

  • @szabib2144
    @szabib2144 Před 2 lety +1

    Nice, and the mags are last round bolt hold open. This rifle is beautiful. An stock up on all the steel case you can.

  • @Friedbrain11
    @Friedbrain11 Před 2 lety

    I like the wood furniture. It looks right for that rifle. That shoots nicely:) I would buy it the way you have it set up. Looks great and shoots great by the look of it.

  • @vinniysavoy1085
    @vinniysavoy1085 Před 2 lety +10

    As a lefty I do like the folder. Perhaps I cheek different than you do.

    • @crunchysuperman
      @crunchysuperman Před 2 lety +2

      Same here. Zhukov's on several of my AKs with no issues.

    • @raifsevrence
      @raifsevrence Před 2 lety +1

      Height probably plays a big role in that equation.
      If you extend the stock, you won't be putting your cheek against the hinge.
      I'm 6'2" and the length of pull feels the most comfortable to me when it is fully extended.

  • @MinionFornificator
    @MinionFornificator Před 2 lety +1

    That crack in the bottom handguard.

  • @ottenstar4901
    @ottenstar4901 Před 2 lety

    The amount of quality 👌

  • @razieldrakis
    @razieldrakis Před 2 lety +13

    I prefer the original zastava metal 5.56mm magazines opposed to the plastic ones. It could do without that plastic buttstock and replace it with a metal folding triangle stock instead.

    • @gingergorilla695
      @gingergorilla695 Před 2 lety +2

      Metal magazines and wood furniture for life

    • @GrendalTheBeasty
      @GrendalTheBeasty Před 2 lety +1

      @@gingergorilla695 indeed, also, triangle folders are terrible to shoot much like the underfolders.

    • @ethinos2719
      @ethinos2719 Před 2 lety

      @@GrendalTheBeasty At least you can get stock pads for triangle folders to make them a bit more comfy to use. Like the ones Rifle Dynamics sells with the integrated zippered pocket.

    • @strahinjastevic7480
      @strahinjastevic7480 Před 2 lety

      Trianglular folders are more of a russian thing, I wouldn't be comfortable having it on a "yugo", then again not all ppl find that a problem

  • @randybaham750
    @randybaham750 Před 2 lety +10

    I carried an M21 Zastava In Iraq for a little over two years. I surprisingly enjoyed it.

    • @alimohammed3071
      @alimohammed3071 Před 2 lety

      Why was that

    • @randybaham750
      @randybaham750 Před 2 lety +4

      @@alimohammed3071 Not sure I understand your question but it was what we were issued as contractors. I found it to be a nice compact weapon with reasonable accuracy and seemed reliable.

    • @AP-qs2zf
      @AP-qs2zf Před 2 lety

      Its a crap rifle. :)

  • @aStranger_
    @aStranger_ Před 2 lety +1

    Oh man that mic on the cam is C R I S P Y sounds so good.

  • @jmlee737
    @jmlee737 Před 2 lety

    God this channel is just amazing

  • @williamdevlin5439
    @williamdevlin5439 Před 2 lety +6

    all the way down is typically "Semi auto" not Full auto. the center position it is in now is typically "full auto" but without the parts it's only semi

    • @Breakfast_and_Bullets
      @Breakfast_and_Bullets Před 2 lety

      I was coming to say the same thing. I've never seen one where middle is semi and down is full auto.

  • @justtoolleeow304
    @justtoolleeow304 Před 2 lety +5

    I'll take the dumb tacticool AK Ian doesn't like. Zukhov stock looks so good

  • @SuperScopeDog
    @SuperScopeDog Před 2 lety +2

    Personally I like the Zhukov S stock with the cheek rest when I use my POSP-1 scope and the adjustable length of pull is nice too.

  • @budgibson185
    @budgibson185 Před 2 lety +1

    The pic in the thumbnail looks like the AK’s some of the yards used. They cut the butt stock off right at the thickening point! Rather neat

  • @fiddagracepaws5241
    @fiddagracepaws5241 Před 2 lety +3

    I prefer how it looks with the polymer/rubber furnite, not only does it look way better, but it scratches my itch of old meets new aesthetic
    Then again I like that one modernised tan luger and the ak-100 series
    Plus I just like tacticool stuff

  • @mladjireferent9625
    @mladjireferent9625 Před 2 lety +20

    The M21 is heavy as hell, a bit crude but has 0 recoil and is super accurate.

    • @gingergorilla695
      @gingergorilla695 Před 2 lety +1

      So the average ak/akm but with an accuracy boost

    • @ProKILLER91J
      @ProKILLER91J Před 2 lety +1

      M21 je losa kopija vektora r4, ovo je iz familije m80 i m85 I nema veze sa m21

    • @mladjireferent9625
      @mladjireferent9625 Před 2 lety +2

      @@ProKILLER91J Виш да га помену човек у клипу.

    • @ProKILLER91J
      @ProKILLER91J Před 2 lety +1

      @@mladjireferent9625 nez zasto spominje m21, M90 je unapredjena verzija M80 I M80A, i ovo je stvarno dobra puska, steta nije u prodaji kod nas, dok sugavi m21 moze da se kupi...

    • @mladjireferent9625
      @mladjireferent9625 Před 2 lety

      @@ProKILLER91J искрено, ја сам дужио 21 и скроз ми је океј била. кундак је предугачак и она облога је ужас после првог оквира, али никад није закочила нити било шта друго.

  • @josephrizzo7500
    @josephrizzo7500 Před 2 lety

    Yep my follower was getting stuck too. I found if I feed the ammo in towards the middle of the mag then back, it seemed to help.

  • @mryan3123
    @mryan3123 Před 2 lety +1

    Once again a great review.
    I've never been a fan of tactical accessories. This firearm with wood furniture gives it a more classic look. When Ian shouldered the firearm it became apparent how the folding stock would be an issue with a southpaw. Aside from a few small hiccups at the end, this looks to be a well-made firearm. For me, the only thing I would change would be the rear sight from a notch to a Mojo peep sight.
    Unfortunately, where I live, the AK platform plus the AR platform are banned from civilian ownership. Oh well, sucks to be me.

  • @dlemonade312
    @dlemonade312 Před 2 lety +5

    Ian…How did you not mention the M90 NP that takes AR mags
    when giving the history of M90 imports?

    • @hambrabai1256
      @hambrabai1256 Před 2 lety +2

      To be fair, the M90NP was imported in incredibly small numbers. It's very likely that the entirety of the M90NP production totaled less than 2000 units.

  • @yonahga5731
    @yonahga5731 Před 2 lety +13

    An AK without wooden furniture is like borscht without a dollop of sour cream, it's still an AK but it's nowhere near as good.

    • @ayebraine
      @ayebraine Před 2 lety

      I think SAG AKs are great, they are a Russian company who clearly gets it and makes modern usable AKs for athletes and LE/military users alike.

    • @zachhogan7865
      @zachhogan7865 Před 2 lety

      From a practical perspective for me the basic furniture on AKs is usually a little too short not to have something like a ZenitCo hand guard and stock to help extend the length of pull but that's all dependent on intention and training I suppose. Wood furniture does look pretty dope though

    • @mengx94
      @mengx94 Před 2 lety +1

      But does it have a glory hole for a cleaning kit??

  • @araknidude
    @araknidude Před 2 lety

    Yugo follower is so good at locking the bolt open that it did so before the gun was empty!

  • @EchosTackyTiki
    @EchosTackyTiki Před 2 lety +1

    11:30: Ian has activated the "no muzzle climb" mod. 5.56 AKs really do be like that.

  • @zhiliangtay5624
    @zhiliangtay5624 Před 2 lety +12

    Is it true that these Zastava guns lack a chrome-lined barrel for more accuracy but less resistance to wear? I heard it once but I'm not entirely sure

    • @aggrodkreg4321
      @aggrodkreg4321 Před 2 lety +18

      The old NPAPs and OPAPs definitely didn't. But the literature for the newer ZPAPs says they're chromed.

    • @andrew2353
      @andrew2353 Před 2 lety +16

      Older 7.62 Zastava AKs did lack chrome lining, however the 5.56 ones have always had it and newer 7.62 have chromed bores.

    • @gingergorilla695
      @gingergorilla695 Před 2 lety +3

      @@andrew2353 yay!

    • @americanmilitiaman88
      @americanmilitiaman88 Před 2 lety +5

      New ones are CHF and chrome lined

    • @GrendalTheBeasty
      @GrendalTheBeasty Před 2 lety +4

      @@americanmilitiaman88 confirming chrome lined cold hammer forged

  • @RadioMartyT1B
    @RadioMartyT1B Před 2 lety +3

    Ian's contempt is implacable...
    Tell us how you really feel, Ian.

  • @John-ro3vu
    @John-ro3vu Před 2 lety +2

    I kept the Hogue Forend and put a Walnut stock to evoke Valmet aesthetics. Very nice 5.56 AK and I’m happy to see you do a video on them!

  • @alanhelgeson690
    @alanhelgeson690 Před 2 lety

    Mid-West Industries also makes an excellent scope mount that is designed to fit a Kalashnikov rail mount.

  • @MrTrombonator
    @MrTrombonator Před 2 lety +3

    I was wondering, what if you make a cutout in a safety lever in the place where the follower holds the bolt open, wouldnt you be able to engage the safety reload the mag and then drop the bolt with the safety?