Tour of a Finnish Gun Collection

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    I have been doing a bunch of filming with this Finnish collector, who has been very generous with his time and giving me access. He thought it would be fun to show folks a full tour of the collection he has assembled, and I though that would be a fine idea! So enjoy - this is the sort of fantastic historical collection that many people do not realize can still exist in private hands in Finland.
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  • @rodrigodepierola
    @rodrigodepierola Před 2 lety +405

    "You can never have enough Suomis" should be your next T-shirt

    • @bencarroll4825
      @bencarroll4825 Před 2 lety +5

      the T-shirt should have Suomis shaped camouflage

    • @LeftFlamingo
      @LeftFlamingo Před 2 lety +1

      Another one should be "The battle of Saarsuuri". Just for the meme =) And meant with all due respect. I commend Ian for giving the Finnish names a go, and it is of course inevitable that some names get switched around sometimes (It's Suursaari in Finnish, Hogland in Swedish, which translates to Great island)

    • @anttieskelinen1
      @anttieskelinen1 Před 2 lety

      @@LeftFlamingo actually saar suuri and suur saari mean the same thing in finnish. Name of the island is obliviously Suursaari.

    • @greybeard5774
      @greybeard5774 Před 2 lety

      @@anttieskelinen1 Yup .. Suursaar in Estonian .. means Big Island .. was Finnish, but nowadays belongs to damn Russia .. this tiny piece of land has however, a fascinating history.

    • @sirboomsalot4902
      @sirboomsalot4902 Před 2 lety +1

      Meanwhile in the US we can only have crappy closed bolt or deactivated Suomis

  • @Finwolven
    @Finwolven Před 2 lety +468

    Ah, as I suspected, Ian has been kept in a doorless room filled with guns, making videos of Finnish small arms, subsisting on kalakukko and sahti.

    • @goodsamaritansnipersociety3240
      @goodsamaritansnipersociety3240 Před 2 lety +13

      ..and beets.

    • @gearloose703
      @gearloose703 Před 2 lety +30

      This must be a bunker, a perfect place for a gun collection or lock someone in, or both. Maybe Ian didn't even realize he was abducted.

    • @michaelmoorrees3585
      @michaelmoorrees3585 Před 2 lety +7

      Yes, doorless. Only the worthy get teleported in.

    • @DB-yj3qc
      @DB-yj3qc Před 2 lety +9

      @@gearloose703
      LoL, but he didn't complain when he found out as long as he could keep filming

    • @redlock4004
      @redlock4004 Před 2 lety +5

      When Ian is a bad boy they make him eat salmiakki.

  • @MrKronikDeception
    @MrKronikDeception Před 2 lety +635

    That is one of the nicest collections.
    It compares very well against many museum displays.

    • @zacknunns242
      @zacknunns242 Před 2 lety +12

      Except it looks like he crammed it all in your parents basement 🙃

    • @anttieskelinen1
      @anttieskelinen1 Před 2 lety +33

      @@zacknunns242 Your mother's basement is not a place to store weapons in the eyes of the law. The building must meet the standards of structural burglary protection in the financial sector. For this reason, a large proportion of collectors have bought old banks.

    • @JohnDoe-pv2iu
      @JohnDoe-pv2iu Před 2 lety +7

      @@zacknunns242
      And if you watched the video, you would see an alarm keypad by a door.
      It ISN'T the same as you living in your parent's basement...
      Ya'll Take Care and be safe, John

    • @zacknunns242
      @zacknunns242 Před 2 lety +2

      @@JohnDoe-pv2iu nah you’re missing my point. This collector obviouslyhas a fair amount of disposable income and it seems like if you can afford to have this giant collection you should A.)care enough to and B.)be able to afford to display it in a way that does such a cool collection justice and doesn’t look like everyone’s parents cluttered basement or garage, not that the dude actually lives with his mom.

    • @anttieskelinen1
      @anttieskelinen1 Před 2 lety +4

      @@zacknunns242 for who it shoul be display? Mangaves are for personal use not for you.

  • @lathanchurch8352
    @lathanchurch8352 Před 2 lety +376

    My only hope is that this collection never get lost or ruined by someone deactivating any of them or doing anything to fuck it up

    • @brucemiller8109
      @brucemiller8109 Před 2 lety +10

      Sadly it will become DEWAT as will American arms...this is a WORLD WIDE ban of arms for citizens.

    • @DualDesertEagle
      @DualDesertEagle Před 2 lety +46

      @@brucemiller8109 Any sources for that?

    • @GarfieldEnjoyer1878
      @GarfieldEnjoyer1878 Před 2 lety +7

      @@DualDesertEagle I’m the source

    • @SekruTheGreat
      @SekruTheGreat Před 2 lety +63

      @@DualDesertEagle Source: Bro just trust me

    • @Itapirkanmaa2
      @Itapirkanmaa2 Před 2 lety +39

      It only takes one EU edict and it's gone. Everything is in the hands of the EU.

  • @keanur6112
    @keanur6112 Před 2 lety +379

    The license works the same in south africa. Collectors license that is. You join a collector organisation and tell them you want a 1911 collection. Then you can license as much as you can afford. They are finicky but you just need to specify more in detail for certain firearms. Smgs of the 2nd world war 1939 to 1945 basically. And you can have as many categories as you want. Yes you can have full auto... For those wanting to know.

    • @BobyourUncle
      @BobyourUncle Před 2 lety +48

      The problem is that they are VERY anal about sticking to a theme for some inexplicable reason. I've never heard of a collector of old cars or postage stamps being forced to pick some insanely narrow theme in order to be taken seriously by other collectors. There really is no good reason to say that a collection needs a theme...

    • @freedfree7933
      @freedfree7933 Před 2 lety +22

      @@BobyourUncle The fact you said that makes me question if you are smart enough to be trusted with guns...

    • @mjfan653
      @mjfan653 Před 2 lety +27

      @Lassi Kinnunen 81 similar in estonia, can have full auto, beltfeds etc anything. even tho you need a theme, even just "ww2 and soviet army service" can do if you want ww2 guns and cheap soviet stuff.
      really, as far as Ive understood, because we dont have a full-auto cap, like the us, an original mp40 will be quite cheap, around 2-4k euro.
      and in estonia, in some places, given the soviet free market, you can sometimes still buy an beltfed mg for a few bottles of vodka, and legalize it later....
      but the requirement for an storageroom that is thief-proofed is reasonable. if you own a large collection of live-fire guns, there will be thieves/criminals who might want to get them.
      and it doesnt have to be a bunker. just windows with bars, or no windows, and a strong door. most basements would work.

    • @justinmishler6758
      @justinmishler6758 Před 2 lety +6

      @@freedfree7933 what

    • @adamr9215
      @adamr9215 Před 2 lety +17

      @@freedfree7933 The reply you made to Bob makes it obvious that you shouldn’t be allowed to own or use firearms. Seriously, that was possibly the most ignorant comment ever made on CZcams.

  • @Zereniti77
    @Zereniti77 Před 2 lety +214

    The MG-42 was captured during Tanne Ost:
    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Tanne_Ost
    Wife's grandfather was in that battle, on the Finnish side. But he never really talked about the war. We did know that he was in that battle and we were watching a documentary on it with him. Imagine our surprise when one of the people being interviewed suddenly mentioned his name. We turned to look at him, and he just gave a sly smile and said "yeah, it was pretty exciting thing that happened...".

    • @rodgerjohnson3375
      @rodgerjohnson3375 Před 2 lety +13

      Interesting read of a snippet from history. Thank you

    • @liamjohnston4495
      @liamjohnston4495 Před 2 lety +5

      What was the documentary called, it sounds quite interesting!

    • @Zereniti77
      @Zereniti77 Před 2 lety +5

      @@liamjohnston4495 sorry, don’t remember. it was over 10 years ago. And it was in Finnish.

    • @rodgerjohnson3375
      @rodgerjohnson3375 Před 2 lety +2

      @@liamjohnston4495 Click on the wiki highlighted address

  • @SafetyProMalta
    @SafetyProMalta Před 2 lety +250

    True Ian, many people are unaware how many private collectors in Europe have amazing collections.

    • @taekatanahu635
      @taekatanahu635 Před 2 lety +47

      Yup. The laws between European countries often vary quite significantly and that includes firearms regulation. That is why it always makes me cringe when someone - be it European or someone outside of Europe - makes sweeping generalizations about the entire continent. European countries have different legal systems, legal traditions and legal processes. Even when talking about the European Union, most of the legal acts are directives rather than legally binding regulations, leaving lots of leeway to national governments.

    • @alphagt62
      @alphagt62 Před 2 lety +7

      One thing remains the same, both in Europe and the US, such collections, and licenses are for the wealthy. I can’t imagine what this collection must be worth! But I’m not jealous, (well, maybe a little?) I’m seriously happy that someone is able to preserve these fine specimens.

    • @zoolkhan
      @zoolkhan Před 2 lety

      because we collect them, not substitute our penises with them. Where there is little abuse, there are few negative or any headlines

    • @arib515
      @arib515 Před 2 lety

      @@zoolkhan equating guns with penises is a very low brow marxist thing to say. Maybe say "we finns have more respect for our fellow man than to shoot them for no reason"

    • @ILikeToLaughAtYou
      @ILikeToLaughAtYou Před 2 lety

      @@zoolkhan astronomically bad take.

  • @mynameisnotlarry7149
    @mynameisnotlarry7149 Před 2 lety +117

    This collection almost scratches the surface of my wish list , while at the same time goes about a million times my budget 😀

  • @maverick9708
    @maverick9708 Před 2 lety +152

    This is legitimately breathtaking, being able to see such a free private collection of significant historical pieces. seems very interesting to me specifically as well since I'm a ballistic minded American with lots of Finnish family

    • @alphagt62
      @alphagt62 Před 2 lety +12

      Reminds me of an old joke.
      “Are you finished?”
      “No, but I’m a bit Swedish on my Mother’s side”
      I’ll see myself out.......

    • @TzunSu
      @TzunSu Před 2 lety

      It's not exactly rare. Sweden has the reputation of being super anti-guns due to Fox News, but we've got the exact same rules here.

    • @TzunSu
      @TzunSu Před 2 lety

      @@bryananderson3772 If only they knew what? The same rules talked about in this video are the same in Sweden. Get a collectors license and you can have as many guns as you want. If you want a pistol, you're going to have to join a pistol club, but that's not really an issue, and if you want a shotgun or long-gun you take the hunters test, an intense course takes about a weekend. We're also top 20 in the world for weapons per capita.
      The real answer is that so many morons watch Fox News and their lies and never bother doing any research. Hell, Fox got caught trying to bribe immigrant kids to riot here a few years ago, so they could film it.

    • @TzunSu
      @TzunSu Před 2 lety

      @@bryananderson3772 I'm sorry, but i might be misunderstanding you. CNN puts Sweden forward as champions of common sense gun laws because, well, it is generally haha. You can get a firearm, if you're not convicted or been sectioned recently, fairly easily.
      Many people also seem to forget that the vast majority of Swedish men and quite a few women have done their obligatory military service, and until fairly recently home guard soldiers kept their G3s at home. There's good reasons not to do that, as 2Lt Mattias Flink proved when he killed 7 people in a spree shooting with his G3.
      Basically all you can't have is full auto weapons (Except as a collector), and some limitations on magazine capacity for semi-autos.

    • @eikeksimimea1071
      @eikeksimimea1071 Před 2 lety +1

      @@bryananderson3772 Yeah :D I mean a bunch of people own weapons and they arent even that expensive. Not to mention all the "illegal" pistols and small firearms that are in the cottages of elderly people.

  • @Fr0z3nS0liD
    @Fr0z3nS0liD Před 2 lety +120

    I laughed at the random swearing in the background at about 6:42
    If you are interested, there is a privately owned collection of Finnish firearms in Kuhmoinen called Kuhmoisten ase- ja varusmuseo. It's a little bit different to this one. I think there are more guns here, but the other one is more setup for visitors. Not worth making a trip for all by itself, but if you are near Tampere or Central Finland, then it's not too bad of a drive. I'm not affiliated with the place myself, but I've visited it twice with friends.

    • @onpsxmember
      @onpsxmember Před 2 lety +2

      What is said in the background?

    • @HerkkuKettu
      @HerkkuKettu Před 2 lety +6

      @@onpsxmember All i could hear was "oh f*** who...?"

    • @TheSitoutumaton
      @TheSitoutumaton Před 2 lety +38

      @@onpsxmember "Oh fuck are they filming in here?"
      Cannot discern more context, maybe they realized they're interrupting Ian's shooting session.

    • @onpsxmember
      @onpsxmember Před 2 lety +2

      @@TheSitoutumaton
      Well, I'm glad I asked. Thank you :D

    • @m1k1a1
      @m1k1a1 Před 2 lety

      Thanks for this nugget of information. I was not aware of this museum.

  • @impronen
    @impronen Před 2 lety +254

    Cool stuff! Side note, that is not a turkey but a Western Capercaillie or Metso, in Finnish.

    • @rautavaara9194
      @rautavaara9194 Před 2 lety +46

      Capercaillie is one of those words I've never heard an English speaker use. It's essentially a boss-level grouse.

    • @timumbra2476
      @timumbra2476 Před 2 lety +12

      So a cool turkey ?

    • @rautavaara9194
      @rautavaara9194 Před 2 lety +30

      @@timumbra2476 Cool in the same way Godzilla is cool when you live in a Japanese city.

    • @anttieskelinen1
      @anttieskelinen1 Před 2 lety +20

      @@timumbra2476 Write "Metso" on youtube and you will find out that it will attack on humans. So it´s not so cool to run into it in the woods.

    • @petev.6598
      @petev.6598 Před 2 lety +29

      @@timumbra2476 During mating time these birds (males) are bad m-f:rs. If you meet one in a forest, you are in for an experience. :D

  • @MythicMagus
    @MythicMagus Před 2 lety +42

    What we all thought was one wall of guns was actually four walls and a ceiling of guns. Very impressive.

  • @jwseibert1059
    @jwseibert1059 Před 2 lety +62

    What a fantastic collection and I bet the room smells wonderful,like old wood furniture and gun oil.

  • @tomt810
    @tomt810 Před 2 lety +425

    Can a gun collection ever really be Finnished though?

    • @zezex3116
      @zezex3116 Před 2 lety +8

      Aaaaaaaaaaaaa

    • @Mbartel500
      @Mbartel500 Před 2 lety +15

      Yeah…I saw what you did there🤣

    • @vaahtobileet
      @vaahtobileet Před 2 lety +10

      never heard this witty pun before

    • @bevans7772
      @bevans7772 Před 2 lety +30

      It takes a lot of time, so you better start Russian.

    • @kc9602
      @kc9602 Před 2 lety +4

      SMH 😒

  • @davidhoran7116
    @davidhoran7116 Před 2 lety +60

    “The arisaka was in fairly common use I. The Finnish civil guard”
    This is why I love the arsenals of smaller nations. Guns from all over the place ending up used right next to each-other, fascinating stuff.

    • @MichaelImbrenda
      @MichaelImbrenda Před 2 lety +5

      The Japanese armed Finnish separatists during the Russo-Japanese War.

    • @saltyredditor7367
      @saltyredditor7367 Před 2 lety

      @@MichaelImbrenda source?

    • @anttieskelinen1
      @anttieskelinen1 Před 2 lety +3

      @@saltyredditor7367 There will be Ian's video about that. Japanies didn't sent Arisakas but Vetterlis. Arisakas are captured in that war but russians move them to Finland. Not Japanies.

    • @peabase
      @peabase Před 2 lety

      @@anttieskelinen1 You're right about the "Grafton" rifles, but the Arisakas weren't war booty from the Russo-Japanese War. Imperial Russia bought them from Japan to equip their second-line troops in Finland. They couldn't have possibly been captured from the Japanese, because Japan only adopted the Arisaka after the Russo-Japanese War.

    • @anttieskelinen1
      @anttieskelinen1 Před 2 lety

      @@peabase m/97 and it´s carbine were the main weapons of Japan infantry in Russo-Japanese War. Mass production started 8 years before the war. M/05 was adopted after that war. And yes Japan also sell weapons to Russian in WW1.

  • @Pienimusta
    @Pienimusta Před 2 lety +30

    Cool to see the collection is not only guns, but also radios, clothing, photos, literature, and even a glockenspiel.

  • @jarink1
    @jarink1 Před 2 lety +95

    The one BIG problem with private collections is what happens to it when the owner is no longer able (or willing) to maintain it? Hopefully he has secured the future of this wonderful collection so it can be maintained intact when it passes to someone else. It seems all too often you hear of historical guns or other militaria being destroyed when an owner passes away.

    • @18robsmith
      @18robsmith Před 2 lety +31

      I think the same can be said for quite a number of "open" museum collections, which all too often rely on one or two very interested curators and when they move on the collection is no longer properly maintained and thus falls into disrepair and is then either scrapped or broken up.

    • @testoprotein4336
      @testoprotein4336 Před 2 lety +15

      Knowing our govenment and their attitude to people having any freedom they will junk this collection to be melted in steel factory

    • @RyuakiraX
      @RyuakiraX Před 2 lety +16

      Afaik with collector weaponry, they're acquired by the firearm collecting association, that auctions the items off to other collectors, therefor keeping them in circulation. Otherwise they're inherited by family, and auctioned off by the police, commonly.

    • @MyDailyUpload
      @MyDailyUpload Před 2 lety +23

      I know a gentleman in Canada that has a very nice collection of prohibited firearms. Many machine guns. Even if the government doesn't take them up, there is an ever dwindling number of people who can own these. They are not licensing new people. These collectors can trade among themselves still, but not to anyone else. If one dies, the guns can go to others or be destroyed I guess. I think of it as a "Highlander" situation. Whom ever is last gets it all and nobody is getting any younger.

    • @Kargoneth
      @Kargoneth Před 2 lety +6

      @@MyDailyUpload "I know a gentleman in Canada that has a very nice collection of prohibited firearms. Many machine guns. Even if the government doesn't take them up, there is an ever dwindling number of people who can own these. They are not licensing new people. These collectors can trade among themselves still, but not to anyone else. If one dies, the guns can go to others or be destroyed I guess. I think of it as a "Highlander" situation. Whom ever is last gets it all and nobody is getting any younger."
      That's very sad.

  • @gamma7897
    @gamma7897 Před 2 lety +180

    I think the MG42 was captured at Suursaari, currently called Gogland. It's the only island I can think of that fits the description and timeline. Usually your pronunciations of foreign languages are more than serviceable but I think Suursaari was given a bit too much time in the blender this time.

    • @mrmax1984
      @mrmax1984 Před 2 lety +40

      I think Ian reversed "Suur" and "saari", and it came out as "Saarsuuri."

    • @notmilandia8461
      @notmilandia8461 Před 2 lety +22

      @@mrmax1984 atleast it sounded like that. For those who dont know: saari means island, and suur(i) mean great, big, master, head, grand etc. So Suursaari translates to something like Grand Island.

    • @arga0
      @arga0 Před 2 lety +60

      I can only be happy that he tries. Finnish isn't exactly a user friendly language for anyone, even us.

    • @OikeudenTassu
      @OikeudenTassu Před 2 lety +5

      I was able to figure out which island he meant. It wasn't that bad.

    • @juharipattila7478
      @juharipattila7478 Před 2 lety +1

      Jes Suursaari

  • @marvindebot3264
    @marvindebot3264 Před 2 lety +52

    I know you watch these sir, I am so jealous! You have done a superb job of putting together what is pretty much a definitive reference collection of Finnish arms. Wow, just wow.

  • @Itapirkanmaa2
    @Itapirkanmaa2 Před 2 lety +18

    Not a turkey, not even figuratively, but a capercaillie.

  • @ShellshockedRadio
    @ShellshockedRadio Před 2 lety +26

    Wow ... just Wow ... I'm speechless, so much history on such a small place.

  • @ArnoSchmidt70
    @ArnoSchmidt70 Před 2 lety +120

    This guy seems to be well prepaired for a Second Winter War.

  • @tiegertanz
    @tiegertanz Před 2 lety +11

    A variety of maxim's.. This is a sentence to make me happy.
    What a beautiful collection! Hats off to the owner.

  • @garmgarmgarm494
    @garmgarmgarm494 Před 2 lety +10

    "The theme of my collection is Finnish small arms"
    "So anyway here's my anti-aircraft gun"

    • @m1k1a1
      @m1k1a1 Před 2 lety +1

      "and my mortars"

  • @DANO-4899
    @DANO-4899 Před 2 lety +20

    Full title was "Tour of a Finnish gun collection, in Ian's house"

  • @jamesallred460
    @jamesallred460 Před 2 lety +6

    OMG that 1895 Winchester! What a beauty!!

  • @BeTeK11
    @BeTeK11 Před 2 lety +9

    I can hear from the background "Voi vittu" which translates roughly "oh fuck" :D

  • @boristhebarbarian
    @boristhebarbarian Před 2 lety +110

    The unknown bust of a Russian general: maybe Nikolai Nikolaijevich Gerhard. Governor General of Finland dec 1905 - jan 1908

    • @topkek7372
      @topkek7372 Před 2 lety +3

      Looks very close, minus the mustache

    • @jimsmith5148
      @jimsmith5148 Před 2 lety +19

      It is highly probable that it was N.N. Gerhard. The bust shows awards similar to the order and badge of St. Vladimir, which Gerhard definitely had.

    • @mrfun177
      @mrfun177 Před 2 lety +21

      @@jimsmith5148 Those medals as they are worn look mostly like the Order of St. George 3rd and 4th class and the only pre soviet abolishment of the medal general i could find that earned both and looks like that bust is Ivan Pavlovich Romanovsky

    • @samtandy7030
      @samtandy7030 Před 2 lety +1

      Ah my guess was Georgy Zhukov completely different answer ahah

    • @PilotAwe
      @PilotAwe Před 2 lety +13

      @@samtandy7030 Zhukov what the hell :D might as well have said Trump

  • @audikid89
    @audikid89 Před 2 lety +3

    I’ve been waiting for this video. This collection is amazing!

  • @Fightosaurus
    @Fightosaurus Před 2 lety +10

    Great content as always thanks Ian!

  • @jimmumford4444
    @jimmumford4444 Před 2 lety +4

    Very impressive! Thanks, Ian, for sharing the experience with us.

  • @tollefreyerson6710
    @tollefreyerson6710 Před 2 lety +2

    Absolutely amazing collection!! Thank you for showing it!

  • @Magicalamazing
    @Magicalamazing Před 2 lety +3

    Absolutely incredible collection. I extend by gratitude to the colector for allowing Ian to make videos with his firearms and us to see his aresome work!

  • @Mbartel500
    @Mbartel500 Před 2 lety +36

    w O W!!! What an incredible collection!!! Ian, you could do several years worth of videos, just focusing on these amazing military gems…

  • @ziomaxxx
    @ziomaxxx Před 2 lety +4

    Wonderful as usual. Thanks Ian for this great video.

  • @danamoral3666
    @danamoral3666 Před 2 lety +6

    Wonderful collection! Ian great as always!

  • @nealgold8442
    @nealgold8442 Před 2 lety +3

    What an awesome collection. Thank you for sharing with us and please thank the owner as well.

  • @Maple-Sizzurp
    @Maple-Sizzurp Před 2 lety +3

    This is the most badass collection I've seen thanks for doing a walkthrough!

  •  Před 2 lety +2

    Pretty much exactly the same process to become a collector in Sweden. I know of some truly magnificent collections.

    •  Před 2 lety +1

      @@0neDoomedSpaceMarine Fashion rules are only for hunting rifles. And even those will be removed during 2022 according to Naturvårdsverket who regulate this.
      I own 4 different AR15:s, one of them is in 6.5cm which is very good for field shooting and long range shooting. See my channel for more.
      But to answer your question, you are limited by the rules for the sport you will be engaging in. If they do not allow AR15s you cannot use them.

  • @7.62shawn5
    @7.62shawn5 Před 2 lety +1

    Amazing collection! I wouldnt be able to leave. There is just so much many things to look at, and so much history. More than alot of museums have. You must be very lucky to get in it and be able to video that collection. Thank you for sharing it with us.

  • @lancecluster
    @lancecluster Před 2 lety +6

    It is nice that the owner allowed this video. Awesome collection

  • @shawnr771
    @shawnr771 Před 2 lety +4

    Very cool.
    Thank you to the collector for allowing you to share with us.

  • @jstutzman1301
    @jstutzman1301 Před 2 lety +1

    Nice Collection. Very nice of the Collector to allow you to use the location and collection for filming and as a reference resource.

  • @lwrii1912
    @lwrii1912 Před 2 lety +8

    Nice collection, I'm sure a lot of work went into gathering it all together.

  • @foleymaj
    @foleymaj Před 2 lety +37

    I was trying to paste a link to the Finnish Police website (in English) where they have a detailed page about what goes into getting such a licence. Unfortunately, CZcams seems to hate links and hides my comment because of the link so those interested can find out by themselves. In short, it's not a short and easy process and you need good justification.

    • @williamsohlstrom1530
      @williamsohlstrom1530 Před 2 lety +2

      I've tried four times now, but the filter Gods are all-perceiving. I tried to give you advice regarding getting around their all-seeing gaze, but it seems my advice was sub par anyway, as my earlier comments were removed.

    • @williamsohlstrom1530
      @williamsohlstrom1530 Před 2 lety +2

      For funcies I'm trying another way.
      "Double U times 3, punctuation, examplesite, punctuation, first syllable of computer."
      If this gets caught in the nets we're already living in the Matrix.
      Edit: it works, it bloody works! (also sorry for potentially notification spamming. I'd guess the notification gets removed as the comment does, but hey ho, who knows)

    • @littlejackalo5326
      @littlejackalo5326 Před 2 lety

      And lots of money and connections to government officials.

    • @labinot1363
      @labinot1363 Před 2 lety

      A channel can decide whether they want links in their comments or not.
      Apparently they don't want them in this comment section. Doesn't really have much to do with CZcams itself.

  • @Alemikkola
    @Alemikkola Před 2 lety +4

    Those three books at 7:16 are great if you are interested in reading about Finnish small arms. It's "Sotilaskäsiaseet Suomessa 1918-1988" Parts I, II and III.

  • @sapiotone
    @sapiotone Před 2 lety

    Definitely a video I've wanted to see for a long time. Thanks Ian!

  • @Kargoneth
    @Kargoneth Před 2 lety +1

    Very nice collection. Thanks for the tour, Ian.

  • @marvindebot3264
    @marvindebot3264 Před 2 lety +8

    Ah the episode we have been waiting for!

  • @TheFanatical1
    @TheFanatical1 Před 2 lety +15

    I was wondering what this collection was - thanks for solving this mystery, Ian!

    • @TheFanatical1
      @TheFanatical1 Před 2 lety

      My god this man is about to outfit a small army.

    • @andersjjensen
      @andersjjensen Před 2 lety

      @@TheFanatical1 Considering how much damage the Finns did to the Russians with pretty minimal equipment I'd say this qualifies as the national armament backup depot! :P

  • @jonfranklin4583
    @jonfranklin4583 Před 2 lety +1

    Thanks for sharing this, what a priceless opportunity to be able to see this amazing collection and show it to the world, I can imagine you felt like you were in heaven!

  • @BikeThrottleOfficial
    @BikeThrottleOfficial Před 2 lety +1

    Love this change of format! Would love to see Ian tour collections like this worldwide

  • @dreamingflurry2729
    @dreamingflurry2729 Před 2 lety +17

    "...good luck finding amunition for them..." - Check the floorboards :D I mean the guy has MG42 ammo back from WW2, so why not some mortar-projectiles? :D
    Great collection! Needs a bit more room however so it's not so densly packed! Thanks for the vid, Ian :)

    • @altergreenhorn
      @altergreenhorn Před 2 lety +1

      @@0neDoomedSpaceMarine When the war in the Yugoslavia come on fire back in the 1991 one old partisan took 3 neighbor guys up to the hill and said dig here you will find my stock from the WWII as was later told to me they found working MG 43, 2x K98, Ppsh 41 with some ammunition and few hand grenades.

    • @anttieskelinen1
      @anttieskelinen1 Před 2 lety +1

      @@0neDoomedSpaceMarine actually every year finnish defence forces destroy thousands of granades from that time in lapland. After the war ways to get rid of them was bury them or dump them on ice on winter so when summer came they just sink in lakes. Now they are big problem.

    • @scratchy996
      @scratchy996 Před 2 lety

      @@altergreenhorn Here in Western Romania we had an anti communist partisan movement after ww2. In my village you can't demolish an old building without calling the police first, because each time an old house was torn down, people found guns hidden in the walls.

  • @renatocoloradaco4673
    @renatocoloradaco4673 Před 2 lety +38

    Man, what an amazing collection! Even being in such a restricted place. Congratulations! And I say again: congratulations to the Finnish people, who knew how to defend their HOMELAND from a much more powerful enemy. 🇫🇮💙✌️

  • @hanktorrance6855
    @hanktorrance6855 Před 2 lety

    What a fabulous collection, thanks both Ian and the owner for sharing this

  • @darkoflight4938
    @darkoflight4938 Před 2 lety +1

    MASSIVE collection! Thank you and the owner for letting us see this!

  • @afre3398
    @afre3398 Před 2 lety +9

    I think the bird is a Western capercaillie(Tetrao urogallus). It lives in Norway, Sweden, Finland, And Russia. In the forest belt that stretches across these countries. It is not a turkey as it can indeed fly

    • @firestarter7699
      @firestarter7699 Před 2 lety +3

      It can also clobber you with it's wings and they hurt.

    • @rokrokka7322
      @rokrokka7322 Před 2 lety

      Metso

    • @afre3398
      @afre3398 Před 2 lety +1

      @@joebrown8873 Nah it is more that it can lift off the ground for a short distance. To get out danger. It is not a very good flyer. And unable to fly more than about 100 meters

    • @noahfyan9617
      @noahfyan9617 Před 2 lety

      @@afre3398 guess you've never seen a turkey 100 ft up in a tree

  • @victoreem2
    @victoreem2 Před 2 lety +10

    Also in Finland prices of machine guns for example are very low since there is pretty much no market for them
    I just checked and there is a fully functioning Suomi M31 on sale for 490€ and I have seen Maxims go for about 1000€

    • @RyuakiraX
      @RyuakiraX Před 2 lety +3

      Suomis can go as low as 150€ if you go through the right auction houses.

  • @VMEMotor5
    @VMEMotor5 Před 2 lety +1

    WOW! Thank you Ian for bring this to us.

  • @Afrohare
    @Afrohare Před 2 lety +1

    Was wondering, if this video would be coming. Neat!

  • @theturkey1523
    @theturkey1523 Před 2 lety +3

    Truly worth the wait

  • @torchedmonkee
    @torchedmonkee Před 2 lety +3

    Very nice collection, I bet the first few times Ian was in there he was constantly spotting things he had missed before

  • @michelguevara151
    @michelguevara151 Před 2 lety +1

    an amazing collection, Ian!
    please convey my thanks to the owner for sharing it with us.

  • @REXOB9
    @REXOB9 Před 2 lety

    Wonderful collection. thanks to the collector for letting you share it with your viewers.

  • @Alexandros.Mograine
    @Alexandros.Mograine Před 2 lety +3

    The finnish swastika still has some usage today. for example the ceremonial airforce flag still has it, the flag is used in marches, military oaths etc.

  • @hendriktonisson2915
    @hendriktonisson2915 Před 2 lety +10

    The Royal Armouries in UK has one L-41 Sampo, a rare belt-fed GPMG manufactured in small numbers in Finland during WW2. I wonder if any Finnish collection has one of these?

    • @jpenna1976
      @jpenna1976 Před 2 lety +6

      I wonder if Brit's deactivated it already. I believe there is a Finnish collector with one. Some collectors with significant collections keep low profile.

    • @hendriktonisson2915
      @hendriktonisson2915 Před 2 lety

      ​@@jpenna1976 I do not know if the one at the Royal Armouries is deactivated or not.

    • @zimbu_
      @zimbu_ Před 2 lety +2

      The Finnish Defensive Forces has its own Military Museum with a pretty massive collection. There's a good chance they would have a sample of a firearm used by the Finnish military, even if it barely existed (the Finnish Wikipedia article for Sampo-konekivääri L-41 says they only made 35 of these guns).

    • @jpenna1976
      @jpenna1976 Před 2 lety

      @@0neDoomedSpaceMarine It is possible that Royal Armories is an exception. When strict firearms laws were pushed through in the UK, I remember reading that it also applied to museums and deactivation method was pretty harsh.

  • @That_One_Chick_
    @That_One_Chick_ Před 2 lety

    Incredible collection. Thank you for sharing!

  • @downtherange
    @downtherange Před 2 lety

    That’s an amazing 🇫🇮Finland collection thanks for showing us around cheers Ian..👍🏻

  • @cyberretard2192
    @cyberretard2192 Před 2 lety +8

    4:14 might be wrong, but I come to think about two fairly similar looking russian generals - general Alexey Brusilov, a famous Russian Emperial general during WW1, and also general Lavr Kornilov (that is more likely, because there is a photo of him with similar location of the decorations), also a famous WW1 general, who is mostly popular for being the Commander in chief of the russian army in July-August of 1917 and he is responsible for trials of stopping bolshevikhs in Pietrograd (St. Petersburg) during that time. He also was an active commander of the White Movement (the force opposing communists during the Civil War) and he died during the assault on the city of Ekaterinograd (modern Krasnodar) in the March of 1918. The second is more likely since the finnish Civil war was also between so called Whites and Reds, however the anti-communist forces won this time
    P.S. a smart guy below tild this is more likely the governor of Finland of Tsars time, however some russian civil war data for you (with probably a lot of mistakes)

  • @joelm5509
    @joelm5509 Před 2 lety +14

    This collection is very impressive. Would be nice to see it some day live.

  • @helgsaracen3402
    @helgsaracen3402 Před 2 lety +1

    A varied and large collection, but the room for it is clearly very small. There are very interesting and rare specimens. And so a great review, as indeed it is always here.

  • @hungarianhillbilly4144

    An amazing collection. Thanks for sharing.

  • @chrisboyington3176
    @chrisboyington3176 Před 2 lety +4

    Everyone: Americans have all the guns!
    Finnish Dude: Hold my Olvi

  • @theblindsniper9130
    @theblindsniper9130 Před 2 lety +23

    For how much I brag about my collection here in America.. now I am pretty humbled haha
    Man this is a sweet video and collection. At least mind is from around the world, though.

    • @onpsxmember
      @onpsxmember Před 2 lety +2

      Doesn't have to be around the world when the world's arms come to you.

    • @theblindsniper9130
      @theblindsniper9130 Před 2 lety +1

      @@onpsxmember Beautifully said my friend

  • @Brian1Graves
    @Brian1Graves Před 2 lety

    Wow! What an amazing collection, Thanks for this.

  • @darrellh1840
    @darrellh1840 Před 2 lety

    WOW…what a gun room!!! Thanks for sharing Ian! Kiddos to the owner/collector!

  • @jewi5844
    @jewi5844 Před 2 lety +3

    Collecting weapons from a certain period is also possible in Belgium, you can have fully functional fully automatic historic weapons as long as they fit in a certrain theme/time period. Altough you are i thought only allowed to use them once a year for maintenance.

  • @Viper0hr
    @Viper0hr Před 2 lety +3

    I always am interested in the owners of these collections, what they do, why they started, why that collection, ect ect. I would love some interviews in the future if at all possible.
    (For obvious reasons a lot of people would rather not have the world know they own such collections, so that's probably why those interviews never happen. If any would be willing we would love to hear from them.)

  • @MythoM4n
    @MythoM4n Před 2 lety

    Amazing collection! I would love to spent week in it watching all these cool gun and others stuff! Really amazing!

  • @shibre9543
    @shibre9543 Před 2 lety +1

    this is with no doubt my favorite type of video

  • @MrMedalice
    @MrMedalice Před 2 lety +6

    Love your work Ian. Did you know that those Lotta Svård porchelain stuff were ordered to be broken and dismiss by russians in the peace treaty back then? I know you are not forgotten porchelain guy but some video material there ;)

  • @peteroestroem9959
    @peteroestroem9959 Před 2 lety +3

    Thanks for yet another great video. On the schwaztika in the Finnish army, I have heard that it was adopted in the Finnish airforce as a wing mark to honour the Swedish Nobleman von Rosen family that donated the first aeroplane to the Republic of Finland after the revolution in Russia.

  • @nathanwight1336
    @nathanwight1336 Před 2 lety +1

    That is a very cool and impressive collection of history. Amazing

  • @Eddy-oe5oi
    @Eddy-oe5oi Před 2 lety +5

    The owner needs more space for a proper presentation. The stuff could fill a museum.

    • @jpenna1976
      @jpenna1976 Před 2 lety

      Unfortunately museum like this would have very limited customer base.

    • @ristoalanko9281
      @ristoalanko9281 Před 2 lety

      "The stuff" has to be in an armored room, equal to a safe. Private collectors and museums are different, in Finland most guns displayed in museums are deactivated.

  • @jtukko
    @jtukko Před 2 lety +3

    lol "Voi vittu!" (Oh fuck!) in the background at 6:41

  • @gregdelagrange8573
    @gregdelagrange8573 Před 2 lety

    That's a very impressive collection. Thank you and the owner for the tour.

  • @MrPanzerDragoon
    @MrPanzerDragoon Před 2 lety

    This was a very refreshing video! Love it!

  • @NCrowe
    @NCrowe Před 2 lety +9

    wow, packed in like sardines. amazing collection. thank you, ian, and the owner, for showing that off

    • @Kesssuli
      @Kesssuli Před 2 lety +1

      Like your smalltown local hardware store. They arent big or dont have too many brands but damn sure they have about everything you might need.

  • @jorgschimmer8213
    @jorgschimmer8213 Před 2 lety +5

    I don’t know how a mortar can be a small arm, but… anyway. Awesome!👍🏽

    • @Lithos2k
      @Lithos2k Před 2 lety +4

      There is always a bigger gun, thus every gun is small... in a way.

    • @jorgschimmer8213
      @jorgschimmer8213 Před 2 lety +2

      @@Lithos2k . 😁😂👍🏽

    • @anttieskelinen1
      @anttieskelinen1 Před rokem +2

      Currently 305mm coastal gun is the biggest gun with licence in Finland.

    • @XtreeM_FaiL
      @XtreeM_FaiL Před 5 měsíci

      @@anttieskelinen1 Say hello to my little friend.

  • @nauseaah
    @nauseaah Před 2 lety +1

    This is such a great video, something about the arms not being deactivated makes them feel like they went from historical events to the collection, instead of being Frankenstein'd and reassembled from a pile of parts

  • @redtheftauto
    @redtheftauto Před 2 lety

    Truly incredible. Glad the person let you film all of this

  • @mrfun177
    @mrfun177 Před 2 lety +4

    The only person i could find that would have the order of st george 3rd and 4th class like that would be a ww1 general by the name of Ivan Pavlovich Romanovsky other then that everybody else either did not earn those medals or looked nothing like the bust shown in the video.

  • @Inarilla
    @Inarilla Před 2 lety +3

    Now that's a mancave for any Finnish reservist. Truly amazing!

  • @charlesnassor2301
    @charlesnassor2301 Před 2 lety

    Wow Ian that is quite a collection thank you so much for sharing

  • @ronniescopeline7486
    @ronniescopeline7486 Před 2 lety

    That's a fantastic collection!
    Thaaaaaank you Ian!

  • @notmilandia8461
    @notmilandia8461 Před 2 lety +4

    That battle where that MG42 was captured was probably Operation Tanne Ost. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Tanne_Ost

  • @catchbay
    @catchbay Před 2 lety +3

    I’m a Finnish and my plan was maybe 5 years ago to get the collector licence for full auto finnish army rifles - those are cheap - but something else came to my path.

  • @kiwi_comanche
    @kiwi_comanche Před 2 lety +2

    What an amazing collection!!!!!

  • @dksdg
    @dksdg Před 2 lety

    Amazing collection!

  • @sergiom9958
    @sergiom9958 Před 2 lety +5

    Jesus… that’s a lucky collector for living in a country with that legislation. I wish more countries were like Finland.

    • @TuomoKalliokoski
      @TuomoKalliokoski Před 2 lety +2

      IIRC only weapons which are illegal are WMDs. For anything else you can have a weapons permit if you can prove need for it (collecting is a valid need, self defense only in cases where you have actual reason to believe that someone is actually targeting you.) And everything must be stored properly and what properly means depends on weapon and amount of them. That kind of armory need be in a some sort of vault (which the room actually does look like.)

    • @XtreeM_FaiL
      @XtreeM_FaiL Před 2 lety +1

      @@TuomoKalliokoski Getting the licence is still totally another thing.

    • @kurtbergh
      @kurtbergh Před 2 lety +1

      @@TuomoKalliokoski Self defense is not a valid reason for getting a gun permit here, it was completely removed in 1998. Many European countries do allow CCW in a similar scenario, but Finland doesn't.

    • @TuomoKalliokoski
      @TuomoKalliokoski Před 2 lety

      @@kurtbergh My bad, self defense is not a valid reason for permit in Finland.