Ukraine's ASRAAM Franken-SAM
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- čas přidán 8. 02. 2024
- Earlier this week, 8 February, the first clear footage of the UK developed and supplied AIM-132 ASRAAM-based air defence system appeared. In this video we take a look at the system and the available evidence of its use.
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Given the short development cycle for this weapon, one can definitely say that necessity is the mother of invention.
Absolutely seems to be.
A lot of defense industry types will tell you that this timeframe is impossible.
Certainly the obstetric surgeon.
Yes the necessity for s0d0my and other debouchery is a very strong driver for the West. We can't have anyone in the world refusing pride parades now can we. 🏳️🌈
For those who don’t know, CAMM is essentially ASRAAM with an active radar seeker and a cold launch booster. Personally I’d like to see the RF head as an option for ASRAAM.
Peak developed by two blokes in a shed energy here.
That's the tried-and-tested British way of inventing things.
@@TammoKorsai yep, that’s how accuracy international came about. 😂😂
During World War II, Great Britain indeed improvised and developed several simple yet effective weapons and platforms to meet the demands of war. Two notable examples of such improvisation are the Sten gun and the Sherman Firefly.
ASRAAM is a damn good missile. It's great to see just how good. This is the last thing it was built for, but it's so versatile you could easily believe it was built for the popup SHORAD role too.
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Much awaited, much appreciated excellent insights as always from you
Thank you!
The term FrankenSAM only applies where Western and Russian/Soviet SAM systems have been combined, to allow the latter to use (typically older) Western missiles such as Sea Sparrow.
Does it though? It's not exactly an official designation. I think strapping AIM-132 on a truck gets an honorary pass. Thanks for watching!
well we don't know what the targeting radar is. Most likely its beig unused with a combination of different radars
Initially, from the title of the video, I thought this would be Ukrainian ingenuity. But then the video starts with stating the system is UK-built. So, it’s British ingenuity instead. Sounds about right.
That's when all the buzzword-talk about "modularity" finally pays off.
Man the cost saving by making a ground system such as this and the nasams use very common air to air missiles was a genius move. You can literally pump out missiles for airplanes and also your close range ground systems all using the same missile. With how cheap drone warfare is going there is gonna have to be a cheap solution to counter it. This isn’t a huge dent in the cost but it’s in the right direction for sure.
Is the ASRAAM compatible with any AIM-9 Sidewinder launchers? The F-16 Fighting Falcon, the AN/TWQ-1 Avenger, or even the MIM-72 Chaparral equipped with the ASRAAM would seem like a viable air defense option for Ukraine.
I'm not sure I don't know enough about what the various rails are spec'd to. But the US are working on AIM-9 based systems similar to this one.
@@TheArmourersBench Ukraine already has several NASAMS system that can fire both AIM-9 Sidewinder and AIM-120 AMRAAM missiles but it seems they've only actually used AMRAAMs so far.
Speaking of NASAMS, Norway also has a system called NORSOL, a unified fire control system for NASAMS, RBS 70 MANPADS and Bofors L70 AA guns. I wonde if these FrankenSAMs an be integrated in a similar way.
@@TheArmourersBench I can say confidently that they use the same hardpoint design so fitting on a rail is a yes. If the system can be reprogrammed to work with AIM-9 though, that's another question.
I think the future of air defense lies along this direction, out produce your enemy with cheap mobile AA missiles platform and "good-enough" intercept missiles, but in the future transported on autonomous semi-AI controled ground vehicles forward deployed alongside conventional larger static air defense and the rest of the conventional AA mobile systems.. I could easily imagine a fleets of autonomous AFV's tracked and wheeled but designed for speed and mobility, always in shoot-and-scoot mode infront of the conventional manned mobile AA systems..
Why have cheap platforms when the missiles themselves cost more than it?
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I'd say cos of counter battery fire.
You'd be losing just expensive missile instead expensive missiles and carrier.
@@sungukyun2608
By CBF I don't necessarily mean artillery giving the frankenSAM a stonk. It could be a drone knocking it out.
But less spent on the carrier means more on the targeting kit etc.
The Stinger missile itself has an outward targeting range of up to 4,800 m (15,700 feet) and can engage low-altitude enemy threats at up to 3,800m (12,500 feet)
Ukraine shot down a Russian kamikaze drone on Wednesday using an improvised “FrankenSAM” air defense system.
The system downed the Shahed drone from 9000 meters (5.6 miles), registering its first kill, Ukrainian Minister Of Strategic Industries Oleksandr Kamyshin said.
@@R.Sole88109 The radar and targeting systems are more expensive than the missiles, there is no such thing as a cheap carrier for these things.
I worry the thinking that allows rapid prototype to deployment of good enough weapons systems to fill an urgent need is near a lost art in the military industrial complex of the west
The MBDA team need to quickly develop a box-type launch-canister to hold the missile AND find a suitable off-the-shelf rocket-motor to use as a launch-booster.
Land-Ceptor already has this, but it uses a cold-launch system similar to Tor. It was derived from ASRAAM and has an active seeker.
@@cease_requiem6034 I know about the cold-launch method however having an actual launch-booster (Cold-launched of course) will extend the ASRAAMs range perhaps to what its air-launched range is. Being launched from the ground dramatically shortens its range.
Make a video of the BUK frankensam
I wonder if they've caught anything bigger and more expensive than drones?
5 fighter jets in three days
@@Vlad__b1401 Those have been attributed to patriot systems.
Looks like Ukraine has taken "Franken-SAM" to a whole new level! I wonder if it comes with a lightning bolt generator too. ⚡️😄
What's the range from ground launch?
Good question. They haven't disclosed any details but it'll likely be less than 25km, perhaps in the short range bracket.
Range will be drastically reduced when ground launched, relative to the max range of the missile. The max range is based on launching at high altitude against an enemy at lower altitude (per western doctrine). In this scenario, the missile benefits from very thin atmosphere (i.e., little drag) and it can glide downward to its target. From the ground, the missile is subject to the drag of very dense air and has to fight against gravity to climb to its engagement altitude.
Yes exactly, just not sure how big of a reduction it causes!
@@TheArmourersBench
Apparently the Shahed drone was hit from 9 kilometers (5.6 miles) away.
So it's range is better than a Stinger.
MICA manages around 20km from ground launch, so ASRAAM is likely quite similar. MICA, IRIS-T and ASRAAM are quite similar range wise after all.
Better than a strela 🔥
LOOKS LIKE A DECOY
is it fair to say that "technicals" is now a thing in europe? :) last time was inn the balkans. i love those pieces of tech cooked up in the field! sadly, its born out of deadly necessities brought about by greedy people without a single good idea in their head. the world is a crazy place.
"FOX THREE!!!"
If only these could be launched handheld like Stingers.
I imagine that being 3 meters long, weighing 90kg, and not soft launching doesn't help with being shoulder launched.
@@commando552 absolutely
Drone “screen” is useless. Does not matter if it takes 1 drone or 100 drones to take out the truck when the missiles cost millions
Worrying about cost is a fool's errand. NATO can easily afford to use million dollar missiles to shoot down low cost weapons like drones.
It's not that bad. An ASRAAM missile costs less than 300,000 USD, an AMRAAM 472,000 USD. Still expensive, yes, but we're not talking millions.
Still, it may be a good idea to send Ukraine more Sidewinders. They cost more than ASRAAM on paper but several countries have a surplus of them and they are gradually being replaced by ASRAAM so the actual cost shouldn't be anywhere as high.
Dead crew can't get new vehicles
Yah the cost of the missiles isn’t what they’re concerned with. A couple million dollar missile taking out a drone and in doing so protecting a building or other infrastructure with dozens of not hundreds of millions of dollars is worth it.
These missiles were due to be removed from British army service soon anyway, as they were too old and were being replaced with newer ones. Better they be used here, then paying a bunch to have the missiles disposed off.
Where are Ukraine's F-16s, or F-18s or F-22s or F-35s or B-2s? or B-21s?
Some have seen Ukraine's Leopard 2s and Abram M1A1s.
What about Ukraine's Tomahawk or super carriers?
What the fuck is this comment
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A drop in the ocean mate, drop in the ocean,
Stupidest comment of the day.
No, Russian planes usually drop on land leaving nasty greasy black smudges. Only rarely do they end up as fish hotels.