#46 Why Does America Suck At Everything? | Embrace The Suck 21 Podcast Ep. 46

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  • @TheBigRedButton
    @TheBigRedButton Před rokem +495

    "None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free”

    • @djdeemz7651
      @djdeemz7651 Před rokem +40

      A slave that doesnt realise they are a slave they wont try to escape their prison

    • @helenagreenwood2305
      @helenagreenwood2305 Před rokem

      It's Stockholm syndrome

  • @Thisworldthisweek
    @Thisworldthisweek Před rokem +901

    I live in Norway. My kid is sick. Very sick. My wife and I can’t work at the moment. We will have no medical bills and we will both be paid 100% until we can go back to work. That is how things should be.

    • @tonyrodd6348
      @tonyrodd6348 Před rokem +127

      Sincerely hope your child gets better very soon, Richard. Take care.

    • @Thisworldthisweek
      @Thisworldthisweek Před rokem +47

      @@tonyrodd6348 thanks mate. Thanks

    • @Xubelo
      @Xubelo Před rokem +13

      I agree. However, if you have a society that abuses drink, processed foods, cigarettes amongst other things, I think there needs to be a compromise. If you have a condition, that is through no fault of your own, you should be supported. If you’re neglectful and lazy, you should be supported but that should be monitored.

    • @theinvisibleneonrainbowzeb2567
      @theinvisibleneonrainbowzeb2567 Před rokem +17

      Hello there random person in Norway, I wish your family well, and truly I hope that your child is able to make a good and speedy recovery from their illness.
      I worry, because from your choice of words, it could be interpreted that this may be a situation from which a full recovery is not a feasible option. I really hope that I am wrong and reading into something that isn't there, but if this is the case, I wish all the best to you, your wife and your child. I hope things work out for you all in the best way possible. Stay strong, stay safe, all the best to you, peace

    • @Thisworldthisweek
      @Thisworldthisweek Před rokem +42

      @@Xubelo but where do you draw the line? It’s unworkable.

  • @SevenEllen
    @SevenEllen Před rokem +213

    "The system isn't broken, it's working perfectly for the few it was made for."

    • @libelinhaa2079
      @libelinhaa2079 Před rokem

      Exactly. Even the education system is contributing to dumb down people and make them believe they live in the best country in the world and everyone else is just jealous and trying to get green cards

  • @lja01048
    @lja01048 Před rokem +141

    What really breaks my heart is hearing healthy young men saying "we can't do anything about it bla bla... you have to take it with a grain of salt" For me, that's the worst ! The acceptance, the desperation ...I'm an old man. In the 60's and 70's, people were in the streets

    • @lilithiaabendstern6303
      @lilithiaabendstern6303 Před rokem +17

      They are just comfortable we're they are, i mean, look at them - do they look as if they would anything above the bare minimum, even for themselves - no, so how can you expect any thing more from them, this is the embodiment of complacency, they are the ones that video is about, no wonder they're on the defense

    • @paul1979uk2000
      @paul1979uk2000 Před 7 měsíci +4

      I hear a lot of the same thing in the UK, which have been drifting backwards over the last 15 or so years and more so with Brexit.
      I feel that there is no backbone from the people to change things any more, in the case of the UK, that was sucked out of them in the 80's, in the US, I'm not sure when it happened but it's clear there's no real fight left any more.
      Contrast that with many European countries, and it's not uncommon to see strikes, riots and protest happen to keep governments on the straight and narrow, it's the only language governments seem to understand, otherwise they seem to walk all over the people and but by bit, end up chipping away at them, something that if you look at a lot of the quality of life indexes in so many areas, both the US and UK are slipping behind other modern countries.
      It's time these people start to grow a backbone on the elites in the countries, after all, it's the people that really have the powerful, but if they just sit ideally by, governments and the rich elites will continue to walk all over them, and for me, Brexit in the UK and Trump in the US is a clear indication that people in both countries are crying out for help, they want real change and were willing to vote more radical to get change, the problem is, the change they voted for is actually making things worse, people need to wiser up and become smarter in their voting patterns, Voting for the Republicans or Democrats in the US or Conservatives or Labour in the UK isn't going to change much over the long run, they are more or less the same side of the coin that serves the same master, as in the rich elites, hence why it doesn't matter which side you vote for, nothing at the core level that improves things really change, and nothing will until the people wake up and change.
      With all that said, I think the US is in a much worse state then the UK, and I think it boils down to all the patriotism and flag waving, which lets be blunt, it's designed to blind people, to not question how things are and to accept how the system is in making people think they are the best based on nothing but ignorance, the funny thing is, that was in full play in the UK with Brexit, and boy are the UK paying a high price for that ignorance now, but in the case of the UK, they are lucky in the sense that they can see the cost of their actions hit them smack on the face and are already changing quite quickly on the views on the EU, a lot sooner than even I expected and in this case, sometimes you just have to let some people make mistakes, they are likely to learn a lot quicker from them as the UK is doing on Brexit now, the US doesn't have that option, so it's like a slow burn of decline for quality of life for the average person, and I really do wonder where the moment things will crack and people say enough is enough, I still think we are a long way from that in the US.

    • @DK5TY
      @DK5TY Před 4 měsíci +4

      Problem is it doesn't affect them at the moment and when it does it will be too late. You can have socialist systems in a democratic government like health care. Why can't every one have the right to live? I feel sorry for them because when the time comes and they need help it won't be there.

    • @thefiestaguy8831
      @thefiestaguy8831 Před 2 měsíci

      The most moronic part about it though - if Russia decided to invade the USA tomorow they wouldn't take it lying down. If their government turned against them tomorrow, they wouldn't take it lying down either - yet when it comes to their OWN hedalthcare for which they pay through the nose in premiums for, it's "ahh well can't do anything about it".

  • @boodahwompwomp4077
    @boodahwompwomp4077 Před rokem +186

    Health care should be a right not a privilege.

    • @miojocomfarinha
      @miojocomfarinha Před rokem +8

      It is in a lot of countries stated on their constitutions. Brazil, for instance.

    • @bishplis7226
      @bishplis7226 Před rokem +3

      it could be, like safe drinking water

    • @brontepetropoulos4755
      @brontepetropoulos4755 Před rokem +4

      In Ozz health care is a right!!! guns are a privilege to the people that past a test to have one and that's
      how we like it
      OZZ

    • @lja01048
      @lja01048 Před rokem

      Healthcare and housing

    • @minefoxc4015
      @minefoxc4015 Před rokem

      Health and shelter are among the most important rights in many constitutions, and I think health is also a right in the declaration of human rights, which the US is a signatory of.

  • @jonathanocallaghan9202
    @jonathanocallaghan9202 Před rokem +471

    The problem in the US is that the population is brainwashed into believing that it is the best at everything and the rest of the world is jealous of its success, when sadly, nothing could be further from the truth. You guys aren't in the wrong in loving your country but your country needs vast improvement. All of this is said with love for my cousin's over the pond.

    • @WalterModel45
      @WalterModel45 Před rokem +16

      Yes
      If you think you are perfect you wouldn't even now that you are bad st somethings.
      Imposible to improve.
      Other gov and countries also use that to make people feel that they are not having a bad life at all.
      But is most like 3rd world countrys.

    • @macdaknife5160
      @macdaknife5160 Před rokem +21

      I live in the US and I totally agree with you. I hate this country. The people here are so malicious and cruel and spiteful. I want outta here so bad! HELP!!!

    • @kritonhague6654
      @kritonhague6654 Před rokem +4

      @@macdaknife5160 move to the UK mate know a few Americans that moved over here and loved it

    • @eugenefeur7844
      @eugenefeur7844 Před rokem +2

      @@macdaknife5160 I suggest you look into the DAFT (Dutch American Friendship Treaty), from The Netherlands and/or the Jure Sanguinis from Italy. Good luck

    • @C1umsyJester
      @C1umsyJester Před rokem +5

      I’m only jealous that they can protect themselves if someone breaks into your house. If you’re coming into someone’s house they’re forfeiting their rights imo. Other than that I’m pretty happy with England. It’s got it’s own issues it needs to work on but definitely don’t envy the things that happen in the US

  • @bobbybigboyyes
    @bobbybigboyyes Před rokem +151

    You might think David Cross is opinionated, but he's still stating the truth and facts.

  • @andreacastro3379
    @andreacastro3379 Před rokem +39

    Part of loving your country is wanting it to be better. Pointing out what needs to improve is a good thing.

  • @hommedterre1
    @hommedterre1 Před rokem +38

    As European, the case of the Walmart lady shocked me enormously and made me tear up. It is an absolute abomination that the US allows such a evil depravity to happen.😢🤬🤬

    • @Monica-gc5dh
      @Monica-gc5dh Před 10 měsíci +1

      I'm from Australia and I feel the same way...

    • @TheKristofdv
      @TheKristofdv Před 9 měsíci +4

      I also teared up at that point... If this would happen here in Belgium, it would be national news, and debated about for like at least a month. There would be street riots, and severe policy changes for sure!

    • @SikSh0oter
      @SikSh0oter Před 8 měsíci +3

      Stuff like this is why there are a number of Americans who are leaving the country, or thinking about it. I don't blame them

    • @gary-ju5ox
      @gary-ju5ox Před 4 měsíci

      Here in New Zealand we get 4 weeks holiday a year and if you get sick on holiday it you can claim it as sick pay. Also it doesn't cost if you need to go to hospital. I have no desire to go to USA.

    • @thanossnap4170
      @thanossnap4170 Před 3 měsíci

      Dude same in Norway. If that story got public? The business responsible would be ruined, and there would be borderline riots in the streets. @@TheKristofdv

  • @getreal4371
    @getreal4371 Před rokem +37

    I'm Australian , my daughter had a kidney transplant. The operation cost our health system $450.000 . It cost my family $0. I was paid my wage for 6 weeks during time. My wife donated the kidney and was paid her wage by the federal government until she was well enough to go back to work, 6 weeks.

    • @jessbellis9510
      @jessbellis9510 Před rokem +2

      Thankfully we annihilated the LNP before they could do even more damage then they already have over the decade. So many tests that used to be bulk-billed now cost hundreds - even to pensioners. Labor has so much to fix, but they'll get it done.

    • @getreal4371
      @getreal4371 Před rokem

      @@jessbellis9510 ?????
      I live South Australia, Transplant was under LNP State and Federal Government's., So I don't get your point. Spreading dis information about governments that worked for my family i find naive, and politically motivated.

    • @jessbellis9510
      @jessbellis9510 Před rokem

      @@getreal4371 Did I say anything about transplants being removed? I was referring to other medical tests and screenings, as in what they've done to our universal health system in general. Not to mention so many people who rely on the NDIS and had their support cut back or removed without reason. It's not disinformation, it's reality.

    • @getreal4371
      @getreal4371 Před rokem +2

      @@jessbellis9510 I know all about test and screenings, my daughter after transplant developed cdiff in her bowels and after numerous tests was given a fecal transplant (poo with the correct bateria). This cured her. 6 months later, she was diagnosed with cancer, due to the anti rejection medication. She had immunotherapy and chemotherapy, 5 months later she was cancer free.
      My daughter is alive and well today due to the care given under the LNP time in power. This is our reality.

    • @jessbellis9510
      @jessbellis9510 Před rokem +1

      @@getreal4371 Congratulations for you and your family, but others with different health issues aren't as lucky. I know multiple people, including my grandfather, who have gone in for a test/scan that they've previously had done & was bulk billed, only to be told after the appointment that it'll cost them $400 or something ridiculous because Medicare no longer covers it.

  • @alisonanthony1228
    @alisonanthony1228 Před rokem +210

    My heart breaks for Americans. Every other developed country has health and social care for its citizens so we can live our lives without the gut wrenching fear of ill health or loss of a job. . When my husband was diagnosed with cancer, I spent my time worrying about, and caring for, him. I could give him 100% of my time and attention because I didn't have to think about how to pay medical bills or worry about losing my job as I was given compassionate leave from work for as long as I needed it, on full pay. When I lost him, I told my employer that I was ready to come back, but they refused to have me until THEY thought I was fit to come back to work - another 3 months when I'd already been off for nearly 6 months! Throughout his illness, both he and I were treated with empathy and dignity and didn't have to pay a penny. That's why I'll never understand why Americans think they're free. Freedom to carry arms and to protest can't compare with the freedom of being able to live your life free from the worry of what you'll do when the worst happens because you know you'll be supported and have the assistance you need to get your life back on track. I'm so grateful to live in the UK and not in the USA where, during the worst time of my life, I'd have had to deal with financial worries as well as the emotional turmoil. I'd probably have lost my job and my home on top of losing my husband!

    • @debs6475
      @debs6475 Před rokem +21

      So sorry for your loss. I fully agree with you. Thank goodness for our wonderful NHS and some employers value their staff.

    • @susanfurlong2002
      @susanfurlong2002 Před rokem +17

      I FULLY AGREE......AMERICANS ARE "NOT" FREE......ALL IS FULLY CONTROLLED...

    • @theinvisibleneonrainbowzeb2567
      @theinvisibleneonrainbowzeb2567 Před rokem +8

      I'm so sorry for your loss, and I hope you are doing ok.
      I really agree with you on so much of what you say - I always feel genuinely sad, and pity for US Americans.
      Even when intelligent enough people are given factual information, with sources to back up that information, Americans seem to be able to perform all kinds of mental gymnastics to try and make reason and sense out of something that won't, can't make sense in the way they wish it to anyway!
      It is really so simple, the average American when compared to an average person from any other developed nation, pays out more - by a considerable margin - from their wages into tax/or other fundamental things (that are included in taxes everywhere else). Like almost double what the average person in UK spends on taxes, and in the UK healthcare is free at the point of use. They have higher infant and maternal death during pregnancy, labour and immediate post-partum. They don't have paid time off, even when they have just had a baby! They have a limit, an extremely low limit, on how often someone is 'allowed' to be ill each year, they don't even have paid holiday time off work! Their quality of life is lower, and seems to be decreasing, and so if their life-expectancy! They have people going bankrupt because they can't pay medical bills, they have people begging on fundraising sites for money towards essential life saving treatment.
      I genuinely feel bad for them, they don't seem to fully comprehend what they are missing (I mean people from US in general not specifically Spencer and Daniel)

    • @gerrywhelan5761
      @gerrywhelan5761 Před rokem +6

      But I do worry some about the UK as well, as its not under the protection of the EU any more regarding workers pay, rights, conditions, paid leave, or job security etc, since we saw not long back the UK Government and the EU in logger heads over the above when the two were trying to make a deal, the UK Government wanted to water down all of the above, and scrap some benefits workers legally had already which the EU was resisting, that should be a red flag to UK workers of what's to come if ever there was one, and watch any stealthy moves on your NHS as well, specially under the guise of improving it!

    • @theinvisibleneonrainbowzeb2567
      @theinvisibleneonrainbowzeb2567 Před rokem

      @@gerrywhelan5761 oh gosh yes it is absolutely terrifying at the moment just watching a CZcams video from channel 4 news with Krishnan Murthy interviewing the f-ing "minister for tackling illegal migration" who is flip flopping about refusing to answer the questions and directly talking about the option of withdrawal from the ECHR (this is about the Rwanda deportations situation) but it is awful, as are all the Tories lies and bullshit and sleaze and scandal and their dismantling of the safety net that is supposed to be there for all of us, it's a scary time

  • @ryanodriscoll
    @ryanodriscoll Před rokem +95

    I survived cancer as a teenager, no bills for the treatment. My mother was given a pass to park for free so she could come see me whenever and as well as medical care, they gave me psychological support.
    As an adult, I went to my GP with suspected diabetes, had bloods taken, had a hospital appointment and sent home with a diagnosis and free insulin in the space of 3 days. They deliver the meds to my house.
    NHS is flawed, especially around mental health and quality of life care, as well as the support and compensation given to staff, but I wouldn't give it up for anything.

  • @garydalziel9676
    @garydalziel9676 Před rokem +102

    Spencer, $100 for a Covid test, last time I needed test, walk two streets to the pharmacy, told them 5 in the house, I was given 5 boxes with 7 tests per box, my wife and I are asthmatic, I was given a normal and a steroid inhaler for me and her, total cost, ten minutes out of my day

    • @StephenButlerOne
      @StephenButlerOne Před rokem +9

      Or you could of spent 30 seconds on the dot gov site, and you'd of got the 7 tests the next working day.

    • @garydalziel9676
      @garydalziel9676 Před rokem +14

      @@StephenButlerOne was going to the wee shop next door anyways, two birds wi one stone

    • @whoneedsposers
      @whoneedsposers Před rokem

      In Ireland I could take a Covid test for free.

    • @lolineko123
      @lolineko123 Před rokem +2

      COVID tests are free in Brazil. u can pay if u want but u can go to a hospital or public clinic and ask for a teste and have the result 15 minutes after. for free

    • @Lilacrosepetalleaf
      @Lilacrosepetalleaf Před rokem

      They never had any when I tried. They asked you only did this if you could not get out.

  • @shaunm3206
    @shaunm3206 Před rokem +154

    Where do your taxes go? Here’s a clue: look at the defence spending…

    • @jeanlongsden1696
      @jeanlongsden1696 Před rokem +28

      and to think, America has never won a single war on their own. that includes the American Civil War.

    • @jeanlongsden1696
      @jeanlongsden1696 Před rokem +12

      @@peterw4867 America would be better off spending its money on toasters. as you can make good soldiers out of toast. lol

    • @swanvictor887
      @swanvictor887 Před rokem +18

      @@peterw4867 $700 Billion a year not enough?? jesus man....

    • @zahrans
      @zahrans Před rokem +14

      @@peterw4867 Russia spends less than 1/10 of the US amount for defence and yet currently they have better high tech weaponry. Maybe (like the US healthcare) the problem is somewhere else?

    • @greyscalesx
      @greyscalesx Před rokem

      @@peterw4867 you absolutely do not spend what you need to.
      There have been several reviews that show that most of these moneys are put in inflated military contacts of companies who shares are owned by the 1%.
      But keep lying to yourself thinking seeing the reality or critisize you country is akin to a lack of patriotism or treason.
      You know who else does that ? Ppl in brianwashed dictatorships like north Korea

  • @micko11154
    @micko11154 Před rokem +165

    Hey guys love your work, look forward to your stuff daily.
    Poverty leads to desperation. Desperation leads to crime. USA needs a universal healthcare system and a living wage.
    Cheers from Australia!

    • @rosab8026
      @rosab8026 Před rokem +6

      👏👏👏👏👏

    • @highstimulation2497
      @highstimulation2497 Před rokem +12

      but the usa has profit from suffering at all costs as the only value at all. a healthcare system and a living wage would decrease profits, and the owners of the country don't want that.

    • @StMargorach
      @StMargorach Před rokem +1

      ey, but that only coz the queen doesnt actually doesnt need extensive network of bodyguards, for she is after all immortal

    • @sandrarobinson3266
      @sandrarobinson3266 Před rokem +2

      Love it when Yanks say Aussies are Socialist how little they know, we are just about a fair go for all, happy if we can have our own little Castle with money for a decent holiday. those who want to get Rich here can do it just as easily as can in US,

    • @hermansnazzledorf2950
      @hermansnazzledorf2950 Před rokem +7

      @@sandrarobinson3266 We're not quite a fair go for all yet but we're getting better. It's BECAUSE we realise that it isn't perfect that it improves over time

  • @Open_Space0718
    @Open_Space0718 Před rokem +13

    I was shocked to find out you have to pay for an ambulance in the states! Just calling for an ambulance you get charged, that is absolutely insane.

  • @mathewdelamere1
    @mathewdelamere1 Před rokem +126

    You don't get a tax breakdown.... that's insane so there's just no accountability for the money you give to the government? in the UK we get a yearly breakdown of what our money actually was spent on.

    • @1Lance1984
      @1Lance1984 Před rokem +8

      I'd like to choose where my money goes rather than the government, but I don't think most people would have the capacity to do so responsibly.

    • @lyndonmaddison5860
      @lyndonmaddison5860 Před rokem +8

      Same in Australia, every cent of my taxable income was accounted for in the breakdown. I paid $600 for Medicare and $120 for defence to name a couple. I shudder to think what it would be like in the US. Also, the US now ranks as the 15th most free nation on earth. most of Western Europe, Scandinavia, Australia, Canada, Japan and NZ were light years ahead of the US. Switzerland was first and NZ was second by the way.

    • @sandrarobinson3266
      @sandrarobinson3266 Před rokem +1

      Same here in OZ.

    • @diegocastaneda3829
      @diegocastaneda3829 Před rokem

      @@1Lance1984 Zombie comment.

    • @1Lance1984
      @1Lance1984 Před rokem

      @@diegocastaneda3829 ok

  • @bigoz1977
    @bigoz1977 Před rokem +120

    There is a balance between socialism and capitalism, most other western countries are “Social Democracy’s “ I.e capitalist countries with good social programs. The problem I see is all your politicians are bought and paid for. Over turn citizens United and get money out of politics will be a great start. And yeah not left of right, they both do the bidding of their donors,

    • @cloverite
      @cloverite Před rokem +13

      Exactly, capitalism funds socialism, but, without socialism you don’t have a healthy or productive workforce.

    • @seanlynch1185
      @seanlynch1185 Před rokem +15

      Americans are taught to hate tax and love small government. Big mistake for them. it needs to change.

    • @peastpeastpeast
      @peastpeastpeast Před rokem

      Theres no 2 sides to that, youre just getting plainly fucked.

    • @viikmaqic
      @viikmaqic Před rokem +7

      @@cloverite A happy worker, will continue to work even more better. They even think about reducing the work hours to 6. Already being tested in some places. The results show that they get even more done.

    • @rosab8026
      @rosab8026 Před rokem +1

      ...el capitalismo mira por si mismo, son sus principios y no se debe dejar sin control, ya que nada más que la ganancia le importa. El socialismo nacionpara tratar de mejorar las condiciones de vida de todos...por eso su influencia ( la de la izquierda, si, seamos claros de una vez) ha sido la que ha ido mejorando las condiciones de vida de los ciudadanos en todo el mundo ...no hay mejora sin impulso de unos ciudadanos Unidos....el balance entre ambas cosas es siempre necesario y preferible: pero pensar que un sistema puramente capitalista puede velar por sus ciudadanos es una gran falacia. Velan solo por el dinero en SUS bolsillos.

  • @susanwatson8691
    @susanwatson8691 Před rokem +15

    Things I love about America; I'm English and I love American films and music. Your country is so beautiful and your people are mostly positive.
    I wouldn't like to live there because I'd be so afraid of becoming ill, you lovely American people deserve so much better I find this film heartbreaking 💔

    • @1nikg
      @1nikg Před 6 měsíci +1

      They don't make good movies these days though

  • @MojoDamm
    @MojoDamm Před 9 měsíci +4

    As a fellow veteran with chronic conditions, I appreciate and thank you for your service. I too am proud of what America seemed to be when I enlisted, but as I matured I've become more and more disillusioned by the promised "American Dream". There are a lot of things to love about what we "could be" and less to love about what we "are". Empathy for our fellow humans is the best place to start.

  • @joannetyndall3625
    @joannetyndall3625 Před rokem +123

    We Brits do take a lot for granted.Ill see my oncologist tomorrow and have my bloods done while I'm there,then I'll have chemo on Wednesday.All.of that and I'll just stroll in and out and get on with my day.Yeah I've paid into the system with National Insurance contributions for years...but in the US I'd have hundreds of thousands of debt for my last year's cancer treatment.

    • @SuzieLady
      @SuzieLady Před rokem +24

      I always think myself as blessed being born and living here in the UK. I am on chemo and have to have bloods done every fortnight and my spine is a mess so I have painkillers every day. I worked hard and paid taxes for many years including working for the NHS. It’s worth it

    • @Dr_KAP
      @Dr_KAP Před rokem +21

      Wish you all the best for your treatment and recovery xx

    • @joannetyndall3625
      @joannetyndall3625 Před rokem +5

      @@Dr_KAP thankyou so much 💓 xx

    • @baylessnow
      @baylessnow Před rokem +6

      @@Dr_KAP Same here. (edit) I should have said, wishing you the same.

    • @joannetyndall3625
      @joannetyndall3625 Před rokem +4

      @@baylessnow thankyou x

  • @jrgash9167
    @jrgash9167 Před rokem +56

    Aneurin "Nye" Bevan was a Welsh Labour Party politician. Born into a working class family in South Wales, son of a miner. He left school at 13 and worked as a miner during his teens where he became involved in local union politics, from there he joined the Labour Party, after the war he became the minister for health. Bevan led the campaign for a National Heath Service to provide medical care free at the point of use across the UK, regardless of wealth, despite resistance from opposition parties and the British Medical Association. The National Health Service Act 1946 was passed and launched in 1948, nationalising more than 2500 hospitals within the UK. That is how the NHS was born, by a Welsh man. There is your blueprint for change fellas, people like you in America who are learning about the way other countries do things like health care, you guys need to be educating you're fellow Americas. love your videos boys

    • @garydalziel9676
      @garydalziel9676 Před rokem +5

      Bevan was a hero, in Scotland we had Highlands and Islands Medical Services set up in 1913 covered half the country, fees were set at minimal level and you were still treated if you couldn't afford it, we were already ahead of the curve

    • @welshgit
      @welshgit Před rokem +7

      To be fair to Americans, if we didn't have the NHS today, there's no way with our current political system that we could start it. It's hard enough to stem the lobbyists as it is, whilst many English GPs surgeries are now owned by American healthcare companies, and Palantir (who's CEO is alt right MAGA chump Peter Theil) now in the bidding to take over all the NHS IT, and the Tories being constantly wined and dined by the American healthcare and pharmacy groups.
      We mustn't be complacent - the tories would privatise the nhs in a hearbeat if they thought they could get away with it.

  • @kcw1879
    @kcw1879 Před rokem +23

    As my friend from Sweden told me, Breaking Bad could not have happened in any developed country, except here, because Walter would have simply gone to the doctor/hospital and gotten free treatment.

  • @kirk5152
    @kirk5152 Před rokem +29

    If you guys ever come to Australia and you end up in the emergency department. The Visit to a public hospital will probably cost you between $90 and $120 without a Medicare card. That will include any scans, x-rays, medications, immediate necessary surgeries, and all recovery/aftercare required. No matter how extensive. You could be in hospital rehabilitating after a heart attack or broken bones, And you're never going to get a massive bill that will throw you into serious debt.

  • @hiramabiff2017
    @hiramabiff2017 Před rokem +215

    I still smile when people say Britain should have a President like the USA & not a monarch who costs the tax payers £30 million a year. Taking into consideration just using Obama & his family's security costs as a example we see they have reached over $200 million since he left office , I would say our Queen is cost effective.

    • @SuzieLady
      @SuzieLady Před rokem +15

      Amen! Our Monarch is worth it too.

    • @hiramabiff2017
      @hiramabiff2017 Před rokem +30

      @@lpmnewcro Sadly your wrong about costings as I never even touched on how Royal estate revenues bring the cost of the monarchy to that amount. I am no royalist but I do understand that saying we should sell the crown jewels to feed people is ridiculous. It makes a good sound bite I suppose if your talking to other ignorant people, but maybe if we start taking away the £Billions wasted on overseas aid charities & illegal migrants, we could feed our poor no problem.

    • @Westcountrynordic
      @Westcountrynordic Před rokem

      On one of the things UK do better then America videos there was a claim that Obama cost American over $1 billion dollars in one year compared to the £34 million that the Queen cost in the same year.

    • @jeanlongsden1696
      @jeanlongsden1696 Před rokem

      not forgetting that the Royal family pay taxes and bring over a Billion pounds of revenue into the UK every year via tourism.

    • @Westcountrynordic
      @Westcountrynordic Před rokem +16

      @@lpmnewcro Is that taking into account the amount of money the crown estate gives to the Govt each year £269 million in 2020/2021. The UK can save money by cutting the amount spent on overseas aid. Even more money will be saved if/when places like Jamaica become a republic, Scotland going independent will also save some money and being more proactive in charging overseas visitors for any healthcare they get whilst being in the UK.

  • @beakybuzzard
    @beakybuzzard Před rokem +67

    love the channel guys but must disagree with Daniel here... 'this country lacks the capacity to change' You have the capacity via the people, what you are missing is the will & unity to make such a change because as Americans you have been conditioned to accept this crap, so much focus is put in to dividing you as a people it blinds you from simple truths. your governments would rather you squabble among yourselves (Race, Guns, Equality) than standing up to corruption & big pharma... Any Nation that doesn't have the health & welfare of it's people as it's number priority should not champion words like Great, United, Free.
    A positive note about America... you do 'Cheerleaders' quite well

    • @EmulsionTime
      @EmulsionTime Před rokem +5

      This, while they fight amongst themselves nobody is getting the idea to eat the rich.

    • @seanlynch1185
      @seanlynch1185 Před rokem

      USA lack the capacity to change?.....when these reactors responded to this video they complained about their taxes, lol, they misunderstood and missed the point of the video which is that only by paying taxes and supporting bigger government will you ever share in the wealth of the nation.

    • @theinvisibleneonrainbowzeb2567
      @theinvisibleneonrainbowzeb2567 Před rokem +1

      @@EmulsionTime That is basically the idea, the rich stay in their ivory towers while the "lower" classes argue and fight amongst themselves, just the way the privileged few like it because, as you say, if we're all caught up fighting each other we aren't uniting and standing up against them!

    • @theinvisibleneonrainbowzeb2567
      @theinvisibleneonrainbowzeb2567 Před rokem

      I agree, the capacity is there, but the will certainly isn't. Mainly, like you said, because Americans have bought into it, been conditioned to believe that somehow they still have it good because...propaganda and indoctrination I guess. It honestly makes me feel sad for them. Like when you see occasionally clips of North Koreans, saying how they are so lucky, so much better off than the rest of the world. It bakes my head

    • @rosab8026
      @rosab8026 Před rokem +1

      Gran aplauso a todo lo que has dicho..👏👏👏👏👏

  • @TheKevinWelch
    @TheKevinWelch Před rokem +61

    You are possibly the most balanced Americans I've come across.
    I've had American friends over here run down the NHS to me and while it's far from perfect (I spent 3 days in A&E waiting for a bed to become available) I'd still rather our system - this video clarifies why.
    I always say that the USA must be a great place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there. This video actually reinforces my thinking. I also appreciate your pride in being American.
    3 things I love about the USA:
    1. The Super Bowl
    2. My friends in Alabama
    3. ETS21 (Obvs)

  • @elizabethsimpson4430
    @elizabethsimpson4430 Před rokem +28

    I work in medical research, not as a researcher I must add, in the UK. Because of our national health care, we have access to so much data, fully joined up. Research is effective because of this. Not the platform for me to get on my own soap box. But working through covid, with Oxford uni to get that jab shows how the joined up health care works.

  • @johnboden8430
    @johnboden8430 Před rokem +52

    The US has the forms of democracy but does it have "government of the people, by the people, for the people"?
    If two hard working, decent family men feel that their system does not truly represent them and the millions of like minded Americans then who else is there to change it?
    I love watching and listening to you both and would gladly spend an evening in the pub with you.
    All the best to you and yours from the land of song - Wales.

    • @cyberash3000
      @cyberash3000 Před rokem

      backsliding aka failing democracy

    • @rosab8026
      @rosab8026 Před rokem +1

      Si, es un " gobierno de las corporaciones, para las corporaciones*, en realidad....a mí me parece una de las tierras con menos libertad y más control de su población, de muy diversas y retorcidas maneras....por ejemplo, metiendo en su cabeza que la libertad es tener gran oferta de productos, poder ser ofensivos o llevar armas, para negarles cualquier atisbo de verdaderos derechos y quitar de su cabeza la idea de pedirlos...

    • @rosab8026
      @rosab8026 Před rokem

      ....maravillosa Gales...!!!🤗

  • @ross8884
    @ross8884 Před rokem +29

    Interesting you mention you'd like to see a breakdown. At least for council tax, we get a breakdown every year of where it goes (Police, Fire, Waste, Transport etc.) and it helps make you realise you need to pay for stuff, here in Nottingham we have a GREAT local council (IMO) so I don't mind paying it!

    • @rosab8026
      @rosab8026 Před rokem

      👏👏👏👏👏

    • @jayltee
      @jayltee Před rokem

      We get a breakdown of where our taxes go in Australia when we get our tax returns each year.

  • @MP-jy5ic
    @MP-jy5ic Před rokem +22

    Great video lads. My only comment when you say it would be so difficult to introduce national health in usa, the UK did in 1948 shortly after ww2 ended we were in crippling debt along with all the other post war issues. Anything is possible if people are wiling to try.

  • @redbeard-vf1io
    @redbeard-vf1io Před rokem +20

    Hey guys! First of all, I love your videos! Very entertaining!
    So, I just wanna talk about this from the European perspective. I am from Austria in the middle of Europe and its just a different world here in this scenarios. We have free health care, our education system is free and we're getting paid very good, we have paid off-work day's (25 days per year and of you are more than 20 years in the same company, you will have 32 days), if I can't go to work because I feel sick, I still get paid, if I have really bad health problems (for example cancer or something like that) we get paid by our company 3 Months and after that our health system pais a huge part of your loan. If I lose my job for any reason, I get paid 75% of my last loan for 1 year and after that we get paid 40-50%. Everything from the state!
    So it's very difficult to get homeless here because the taxes we pay, coming back to us in the moments we need it. We are paying around 20-30% taxes.
    So it's hard for us to understand why the US call themselves the land of the free (except you are rich as hell).😅 much love from here! Hope my English wasn't too bad😂

    • @remimoses3769
      @remimoses3769 Před rokem

      And you lost the war!! ‘Go figure’ I believe they say.

    • @rosab8026
      @rosab8026 Před rokem +3

      @@remimoses3769 que cosa tan tonta para decir o pensar....solo alguna gente en Estados Unidos se agarra a tonterías como esa para justificarse. Te podría decir que las guerras ha. sido abundantes en Europa por su situación geopolitica,, ( es bonito vivir aislados, pensarías que nunca llegara ninguna guerra a la puerta de tu casa) pero tampoco aprendes demasiado. Europa ha aprendido y sigue aprendiendo...y mejorando con ese aprendizaje.....a ver cuándo madurais vosotros ....

    • @rosab8026
      @rosab8026 Před rokem +2

      @@remimoses3769 ...por otro lado, las guerras no siempre las va a ganar el que más razón tiene, compañero, cuidado con pensar eso....ni el más listo, ya ves ...ganar o perder una guerra no es medida de nada....lo que pasa luego, si

    • @aidanm5578
      @aidanm5578 Před rokem +4

      @@remimoses3769 Haha. You're the stereotypical 'American' people talk about.

    • @RaduRadonys
      @RaduRadonys Před rokem

      America is rich because of the ultra-rich 1% people who are looting the remaining 99% poor bastards.

  • @jamescurrie7678
    @jamescurrie7678 Před rokem +14

    I only learned about your vacation rights a couple days ago and it shocked me, in 🇬🇧 we get mandatory 20 days per year and normally 8 paid public holidays.

  • @DarkSister.
    @DarkSister. Před rokem +11

    Hi guys, love your videos ❤️ I'm from the UK, my husband has Cystic fibrosis and has spent many many times in hospital for 2-6 weeks at a time, then in 2017 he had a double lung transplant. Myself, I have had 3 children, I stayed numerous times in the hospital, I've had my appendix removed, had a hysterectomy and 3 weeks ago I spent 8 days in the hospital and had my gallbladder removed, no bill, no debt. My American friend said if we lived in the USA we would be dead by now, and I have to say I completely agree. We are both on disability, and we have to live on state benefits, but we have most of our rent paid for and we receive enough money through benefits to be comfortable. I can't imagine what it is like to live without that safety net, and I find it abhorrent that the USA doesn't look after its citizens in any way at all, basically you're on your own regardless of what situation you're in. That's just not something that would happen here, in Europe or anywhere else in the developed world. I think the reason the USA is so rich is because it treats its people so poorly, taking your money with numerous taxes and health care that costs a fortune but still doesn't cover you for everything, or anything if your insurance provider decides not to pay. Americans are not free, you can't be free when you live with the fear of getting sick and then you lose your house or your life. I don't understand how your health care is in a lot of cases attached to your jobs, so if you lose it you're f***Ed basically and then you don't have any safety net to help you out when you're in need. It's barbaric and should not be the way a country in this day and age treats its people. I feel bad for you all and I hope that one day America will start being as patriotic to its people as they are to America.

  • @WezMan444
    @WezMan444 Před rokem +19

    You should react to “America compared: why other countries treat their people so much better” by second thought

  • @DKProduction-oo4yj
    @DKProduction-oo4yj Před rokem +4

    Hey dane here we are not socialists we are social Democrats with a free marked economy.
    you guys are great ! best wishes from DK

  • @JohnDoe-xz1mw
    @JohnDoe-xz1mw Před rokem +13

    i noticed that in all the countries where things seem to work massivly better, from education to healthcare and everything in between...they are all multi party systems...could be a coincidence though

  • @ashleygibson2141
    @ashleygibson2141 Před rokem +3

    From the UK - Our system is creaking, inefficient, and frustrating at times. But I would NEVER want it privatised!!! I love living in a country that does not force people into bankruptcy just because they were ill. The American ethos is "Me and Mine!!!". Which makes no sense when you are individually such generous and loving people. Until you see how much money the CEO of Cygna makes per month...

  • @joesmith4237
    @joesmith4237 Před rokem +17

    As a British citizen I feel so lucky that we have free healthcare. I mean can you imagine if our doctors and nurses asked to be paid for the work they do.

    • @susanfurlong2002
      @susanfurlong2002 Před rokem +4

      I AM STILL A BRITISH CITIZEN BUT HAVE LIVED IN THE US FOR 45 YRS.... ENOUGH TO KNOW THE HEALTH CARE COSTS ARE ATROCIOUS . ..PLENTY OF PEOPLE GETTING RICH, THAT'S FOR SURE. I MISS SI MANY THINGS STIL ABOUT ENGLAND.......MAINLY THE PEOPLE, THE SENSE OF HUMOUR... THE FOOD......THE WAY OF LIFE THERE. WWAY TOO MUCH STRESS HERE, AND SICK & DEPRESSED PEOPLE HERE. DO HOPE I CAN RETURN ONE DAY. I WAS BORN IN ERITH. KENT. WHERE ARE YOU LOCATED??

    • @jackmason4374
      @jackmason4374 Před rokem +5

      It’s free at the point if delivery it’s paid for through taxation

    • @jackmason4374
      @jackmason4374 Před rokem +1

      @@susanfurlong2002 why don’t you move back if your not happy

    • @susanfurlong2002
      @susanfurlong2002 Před rokem

      @@jackmason4374 Good question.......finances.....out of date passport.. .

    • @jackmason4374
      @jackmason4374 Před rokem

      @@susanfurlong2002 fly to France get in a dinghy once you land they put you in a hotel and give you benefits 10000 illegal immigrants so far this year cost to the taxpayers 5.5 million a day 👍

  • @axiana
    @axiana Před rokem +4

    I’m from uk but lived in the US for a few years and was most surprised when local teachers had to beg for donations of supplies including fans to cool down classrooms as there is no AC!!!

  • @ejb5034
    @ejb5034 Před rokem +8

    I get a yearly MRI to monitor a pancreatic condition I have. My latest claim for the MRI I had in March 2022 was $5521.30. I may be billed $90.68. The total cost sounds ludicrous but the amount I "May be billed" sounds unbelievably cheap until you do the math. I am retired. I pay ~$3600/yr for Medicare Part B, I pay an additional ~$4000 for my employer subsidized healthcare that acts as my Medicare supplementary insurance and my employer kicks in even more than I pay (>$7600). Over $15200 for health insurance. I am fortunate enough to have coverage but I would be happy to pay $5000/yr in taxes, saving $2600, and not having all the headaches of mountains of paperwork and premiums and co-pays and deductibles and "in and out of network" issues and Rx issues and denials to deal with. Our U.S. system sucks.

  • @mugurelnastase1954
    @mugurelnastase1954 Před rokem +3

    hey, i am from Romania. I do believe that we have a lot of corruption in here and the condition are bad all around, but we have mandatory health care coverage for every one , not full ( as i say corrupt country) but emergency , and even when you are not employed you can go at the doctor to get better.

  • @Hexagrams
    @Hexagrams Před rokem

    Love the video, been bingeing your stuff all day and I think this was your best yet. Two lads who have their heads screwed on and can have an actual discussion

  • @yumyummoany
    @yumyummoany Před rokem +8

    I have only once been to the US and I thought it was a lovely friendly place. I got on a bus and the driver would not accept my $5 and the people on the bus sorted it out for me and were very interested in me being a foreigner. I found the people friendly and kind. My regret is that I didn’t know that servers relied on tips. I assumed they were paid properly like in the UK.

    • @JarlGrimmToys
      @JarlGrimmToys Před rokem +1

      America has a national minimum wage of $7.25 an hour, which is pretty low as it is. BUT tipped work has a national minimum wage of $2.13 an hour.
      It basically allows owners of restaurants and bars to pay their staff next to nothing. Knowing they live in a culture where the customer is guilt tripped into paying extra to make up the wages their employers don’t pay them. It’s also why American wait staff seem extra nice. Because they have to bow and scrap to customers for extra tips.

  • @kjmorley
    @kjmorley Před rokem +4

    Also, a non-obvious benefit of universal healthcare is stress… or lack of it. As a Canadian, I have spent less than 15 minutes over my 68 year life span worrying about my medical coverage. When I changed jobs, which I did several times over my life, I didn’t once have to worry about losing my medical coverage for myself or my family. The stress level for many Americans is just unimaginable to me.

  • @tommysellering4224
    @tommysellering4224 Před rokem +3

    "Doing your taxes" in Sweden is usually done in about 5 minutes for any average employee. You just (digitally) confirm that the calculations of your taxes that the authorities do for you is correct. Otherwise you fill in the correct numbers and send them in, then it might take another hour or so. If you have your own business it will take a bit more effort, but it will still be done through your computer (or phone) and without an physical papers at all. I run my own business and it takes me about 3-4 hours every year (and another 5 minutes for the private part).

  • @thomasberry4366
    @thomasberry4366 Před rokem

    What a fantastic video !!! I really and truly rate you chaps. Keep up the good work!!

  • @tallwithcurvesxo5914
    @tallwithcurvesxo5914 Před rokem +2

    I really like seeing you guys push yourselves into these uncomfortable videos and challenging yourselves. It’s fab! (I also love your other types of vids too)

  • @atheistpeace7579
    @atheistpeace7579 Před rokem +5

    the VA has been great to this disabled veteran and his family. it is better Healthcare than any insurance i have ever used

    • @atheistpeace7579
      @atheistpeace7579 Před 7 měsíci +1

      @SabrinaLey-of6lr I am far from great
      I'm rated over 200% total disabled, with PTSD alone at 100%. my life is hell. I have fought un aliving myself every day for 32 years. I am in and out of the mental ward often.
      my VA Healthcare team, especially my 6 doctor mental health team, have been great. much better than the care I received with private insurance and later with Medicare.
      think whatever you want about my motivation, but I don't hear vets at the two CBOCs I frequent saying negative things in group or the waiting area. I do hear guys complaining in the online groups, but if these guys are offered help, many have a million reasons why the help just doesn't work for them. it's sad

  • @chrism7969
    @chrism7969 Před rokem +7

    The American healthcare system could be changed if America changed it's rules on contributions to political parties and politicians campaign funds. Until that happens American politicians are not going to bite the hand that feeds them, whether that is the healthcare industry, gun manufacturers, or the fossil fuel industry. Whoever has the deepest pockets in America buys the politicians who are then there to serve their interests, not those of the American people in general.

  • @Diminish3d
    @Diminish3d Před rokem +2

    Finland here. Had to go trough a small surgery. 1 checkup, 2 doctors and 2 nurses in the surgery, took 2 hours of time. Afterwards pain meds and bandages. All totaling in roughly 50 euros total for me. (the surgery itself cost me 30euros)
    Had 2 days of 100% paid leave and got back to work the next week feeling good.
    Later in life I've also gotten social counseling/"therapy" sessions for free during a tough period in life. 5 or more 45minute sessions with a professional. Zero costs.
    I do consider America system horribly outdated and just outright inhuman. ^^

  • @nunya2171
    @nunya2171 Před rokem +7

    You said "there'sa million other worse places I could be" whilst that is true, there are also a million other places much better that you could be. If I had to choose another country other than my own to live in, America would not make the top 25 of that list, it wouldn't even be first in North America as Canada would clearly win that battle.

  • @peterw4867
    @peterw4867 Před rokem +5

    I had pneumonia a couple of years ago. In the US the cost of a bed per day for insured people is approximately $12k. Uninsured have to pay about half of that with Medicare picking up the rest. In the UK a bed costs about $1k a night. My treatment and hospital in the US would have been well over $200k. In the UK it would be about $40k max. All my medication is free because I'm diabetic. Even my non diabetes meds are free. The BBC, by the way, is funded by the public. Every household must pay just over £100 a year.

  • @rchshrk
    @rchshrk Před rokem +14

    Not even halfway through yet. Just had to quickly comment, 100 BUCKS FOR A COVID TEST what the actual f.

  • @veraekan
    @veraekan Před rokem +3

    I’m thankful I live in Scandinavia (Sweden) because if I lived in USA I would be dead right now!!
    I’ve been sick since I was 19 (now 43) and have undergone about 10 surgeries (2 experimental), spent numeral months in hospital, monthly specialist doctors appointments, add to that specialist maternity care for 3 high risk pregnancies, neonatal care for 3 premature children (week 27-30) and it has cost me maybe $600 out of pocket in total over the years!
    I’m thankful for our taxpayers and I gladly pay my tax every year❤️

  • @Fattimithy
    @Fattimithy Před rokem +2

    As a Brit who has been living In the states for a while. Pretty much everyone I have spoken to, from Florida to NYC, is actually in agreement for tighter gun control, greater social security and all of these things (they are human after all)….. the issue is politicians are funded by special interest groups who don’t want to see change to protect their financial interests.
    I heard a great comment from a comedian once… “politicians should wear the logos of their donors like NASCAR drivers wear sponsors”

  • @adamcowood7553
    @adamcowood7553 Před rokem +4

    $100 for a covid test... In UK employers could order them online for free to give out to employees. Only issue was you couldn't request a set number of tests, you had to state how many employees worked for the company. So the boss saying "order a few tests for anyone that wants one" on a Monday turned into a truck turning up on the Wednesday with 10-12 THOUSAND tests! For free! (free = paid through general taxes... for life).

  • @philipocallaghan
    @philipocallaghan Před rokem +5

    The fact that you pay such a high tax rate and you don't have free health care blows my mind.
    Free health care would also reduce a lot of the homeless problems, they are connected in many ways.

  • @Sciss0rman
    @Sciss0rman Před rokem +1

    I live in Germany and just had a 16-week hospital journey.
    Blood testings every single day, MRI, 5 X-Rays, bone marrow transplantation, some other stuff, and I need to take 30 pills a day for at least another year.
    Because I paid my insurance company upfront (1% of my annual income), I will not get a single bill for all of that.
    On top of that, they're paying for my weekly blood testings I need the next ~3 months and the driver I need to get there. (I'm not allowed to use public transportation or drive on my own)

  • @UKFisherman27
    @UKFisherman27 Před rokem +1

    Awesome video guys. It's nice to see you being serious... but lets not make it a habit. Big love from England. X

  • @ianmclean6399
    @ianmclean6399 Před rokem +20

    For me Socialism is the balance. Communism and capitalism are the extremes. Too much of either is bad a bad thing i think.
    For me socialism is the best of capitalism and communism. Business still profits and markets still function for profits but essential services for the society are paid for by all.
    Education,healthcare,public transport etc that everyone uses should not be for a profit and just be a service.

    • @tradeladder146
      @tradeladder146 Před rokem

      Its progressive Socialism, Educate yourself.

    • @garethmitchell7723
      @garethmitchell7723 Před rokem

      Unfortunately the original definition of socialism is a classless (lack of hierarchy) society *everyone owning the means of production. Communism (state ownership of the means of production) was originally supposed to be a stepping stone to that rather than the totalitarian dictatorships they turned into. It sounds like you are describing a social democracy or some form of liberalism.

    • @StephenButlerOne
      @StephenButlerOne Před rokem +2

      @@tradeladder146 social democracy

    • @cloverite
      @cloverite Před rokem +1

      Socialism needs capitalism, without capitalism there is no social funding. For a country to work for everyone socialism and capitalism have to coexist.

    • @joesmith4237
      @joesmith4237 Před rokem

      You do know that Communism is a form of Socialism, as is Fascism. Capitalism doesn't fall under the definition of Socialism, so please, never suggest that Capitalism can be equated under the label of Socialism or in any way related to it.
      The only system that works sustainably in the best interests of society overall is free market Capitalism with minimal government.
      Wherever you think Capitalism has failed in our society I bet government and/or central banking has been overly involved, in fact this situation is prevalent under Fascism.
      With the growth of Socialism comes the fall of Capitalism and then at some point it all ends in tears for the people.

  • @patrickriley1360
    @patrickriley1360 Před rokem +30

    Hello from Australia mates. Im glad i live in Australia such an awesome country and yes our country has its issues to. I feel like the USA is far too gone and is getting worse. Love your channel and keep safe.

    • @felatiome331
      @felatiome331 Před rokem +2

      Unfortunately some people are trying to import the American system here. I used to work with quite a few people that believe the US system is better than ours.

    • @robocop3961
      @robocop3961 Před rokem

      @@felatiome331 which greedy fat b******s are they? There’s no way in hell the American system is better.. no way!!!!

    • @NxDoyle
      @NxDoyle Před rokem

      Outside of the abstract, who says "mates"? Have you ever said, in person, "G'day mates?" to multiple people at once and, if so, are you a pirate? Wasn't it enough to say you're Australian?

    • @patrickriley1360
      @patrickriley1360 Před rokem +1

      @@NxDoyle haha i didn't say g'day mates i just said mates. Also i say mate all the time. I work in construction and its always hey mate, thanks mate etc. You should think about what you say MATE.. before you type it.

    • @jessbellis9510
      @jessbellis9510 Před rokem +1

      @@NxDoyle "Mates" might be a little odd, but we use "mate" ALL the time. Even to people we don't know.

  • @Jamie_D
    @Jamie_D Před rokem +4

    Holy shit you don't even get a breakdown of where your taxes go, that makes things even more crazy. That's a pretty standard thing here in the UK

  • @urbanastro4701
    @urbanastro4701 Před rokem +4

    You nailed It, In the USA health is a perk, in the rest of the world its a fundamental human right, my sister is an NHS doctor, and her husband is the senior clinician at the largest teaching hospital in Europe, he has authored five books on how poverty affects long term health, he advises the UN on how to improve healthcare in developing countries, he has also been an international election observer for a number of southern African national elections, he has spent a lot of time in the Bible belt of the US, a child born in Alabama is more likely to die before its 5th birthday than a child in the west coast of Africa, but no youtube video will ever convince greater America that they are doing It wrong

  • @nickmi16
    @nickmi16 Před rokem +4

    It's great that you guys can watch this subjectively. I'm from the UK and am on lots of groups, pages etc... that are full of Americans who are totally blinkered to these facts. I've been to the US loads of times, from memphis to San Francisco and think it's amazing.. but it is just shockingly run.

  • @nick_7869
    @nick_7869 Před rokem +4

    One of the good things about Britain's NHS is that the government basically sets the price that it's prepared to pay for drugs. If the company doesn't make a deal they don't sell here. Even if I see a private doctor I can get my medication for the price that the government agreed with the company. They won't be taking a loss but I'm sure they're glad that US insurance companies will pay a lot more. Insurance companies are probably the problem...

  • @personofearth5076
    @personofearth5076 Před rokem +1

    Of track a little but I love these two guys. I was watching one of their videos on AFL biggest hits and they had me in fits of laughter. Well done guys you have an amazing channel. Time for me to subscribe.

  • @norXmal
    @norXmal Před rokem +2

    Having visited Virginia, not far from Blacksburg, to meet up an old online friend, I got to experience first hand the extreme poverty conditions,
    people were living in broken trailers with 3-4 kids that didn't have enough clothes, so they had to use their parents clothes.
    Some didn't have running water or power, hadn't been able to pay bills and had to live of neighbours help.
    They don't take your water or power where I live, they will keep billing you, but you have the ability to seek help to pay the bills if you can't.
    Ironically, from watching another American seeing this, he basically said that the military has great healthcare and it was similar to what you find in Europe, which is crazy to me.
    You got to serve and possibly die for the country, to get the same health benefits as a regular citizen here, take it with a grain of salt tho.
    **One possible solution to at least have the problem addressed is if all the workers protest, the issue is how long can the workers withstand it compared to the businesses,
    that's a fear for me. If you all have enough of a collective mindset, you could sustain yourselves while protesting, people filling the needed roles, donations and so forth.
    You need to prove that these massive companies are nothing without you.

  • @michael_177
    @michael_177 Před rokem +4

    Also, doing taxes AT ALL, is UNIQUELY AMERICAN. In almost every other first world country, your taxes are automatically deducted from your paycheck. But in america there is an entire tax INDUSTRY to help you fill out your OWN taxes, leaving ROOM FOR ERROR so the IRS can clap you...

    • @TheKatesoule
      @TheKatesoule Před rokem +1

      Yeah, that came as a shock. I said to my husband wtf is all this paperwork we gotta fill in this was back in 2006 when i first moved here...LoL
      Im very good at doing them now and also my business taxes

  • @tonycasey3183
    @tonycasey3183 Před rokem +18

    I live in the UK. I needed a private PCR test last year. I could have got one for free but I couldn't wait the three days it would take to get the results. I went to a local clinic and got the Covid test for £20 and the results came through the following day. How are you paying more than a hundred bucks for a covid test?
    My dad had eye surgery and he dropped his free prescription eye drops down the toilet. This was on a weekend, so no time to get a repeat prescription. The local pharmacy sold me some the following day for £5. It's a tiny bottle and I thought that was a bit steep.
    Last week I was watching a US vlogger who got the same size bottle and his insurance paid part of the cost but he still had to pay $65!
    I get angry for you guys in the USA. You don't have a healthcare system, you have a giant insurance scam going on.

    • @helenagreenwood2305
      @helenagreenwood2305 Před rokem

      It's criminal - they are being royally ripped off with health care costs

  • @natalielock8395
    @natalielock8395 Před rokem +2

    watching this I feel depressed for Americans. I am from UK and it made me grateful for what we have here.

  • @kallyfest
    @kallyfest Před rokem +2

    I once heard an American doctor give a perfect summary of the US healthcare system. His exact words were: "People are complaining about how the system is broken, but it's not. It's working exactly as intended, it just never was intended to benefit the patient."
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  • @chipsthedog1
    @chipsthedog1 Před rokem +5

    I'd love to see you guys react to the series of videos called The first time you realised America really messed you up. Its all Americans who now live abroad or are working abroad and their stories of using free health care or how they feel about living in a country without gun culture

  • @MARKSTRINGFELLOW1
    @MARKSTRINGFELLOW1 Před rokem +7

    Correct. It is all about money You cannot become a Congressman or a Senator without donations from big business

  • @Orielzolrak
    @Orielzolrak Před rokem +1

    Hi both.
    Today the US is experiencing an "Opioid Crisis" that except in Canada (and it is much smaller) does not exist anywhere in the world.
    Well, what's up? Did hundreds of thousands of Americans suddenly choose to drug themselves into zombies, like on Av Kensington in Philadelphia?
    Nope.
    In the 90's the Purdue Pharma laboratory of the SACKLER Family developed an opioid, obtained FDA approval in a very obscure way and began an aggressive sales campaign to sell its Oxicontin despite knowing that it has a very high degree of addiction and It is intended for injuries that largely do not require an opioid.
    Opioids are used in very high pain injuries or in cases of terminal illness. Pain clinics appeared and opioid addiction started to creep up. The drug cartels saw that it was too expensive to buy Oxycontin (or other similar opioid drugs developed by competitors) and introduced heroin and fentanyl.
    Today around 80,000 people die in the US from overdoses of opioids and since it began approximately 700 thousand people. Entire families were and are in serious trouble because of a family member or friend addicted to opioids. The damage done to society is enormous.
    Those responsible for Purdue Pharma knew very well how addictive their product was, but they were making billions from its sale and continued to sell aggressively.
    None of the top managers of Purdue Pharma is in prison, none of the Sackler family is in prison... because they paid more than 6,000 million dollars in exchange for being exempted from the case.
    Should those responsible for starting this crisis, knowing how dangerous their product was, be in jail?
    There is a lot of information about this on the internet, and there is an HBO documentary called “The Crime of the Century? Which give more information about these facts.
    Sorry for my bad english, best for you!

  • @davidfuters7152
    @davidfuters7152 Před rokem +2

    Even our private system is cheaper than yours
    Due to the waiting list in the UK I decided to go private , I saw the same surgeon that was going to do my opp in the NHS . COVID has increased our waiting time buy double . The bill for my fused spinal injury was £23000 all in and agreed before I agreed to have the opp
    I am lucky to be able to afford my opp , but I have had 2 spinal opps already on the NHS so I have had my fair share of good service . I never complain about the NHS is a great system not perfect but better than the alternatives
    Stay safe boys and start a revelation

  • @JonathanReynolds1
    @JonathanReynolds1 Před rokem +3

    In the UK, we have the Freedom of Information Act. With this Act, citizens can inquire about anything that our government and other official agencies do - and they are obliged to tell us everything we need to know.

  • @matthewdale4135
    @matthewdale4135 Před rokem +3

    Here in the UK, we get a yearly statement from the local authority showing a breakdown of where they spend all the money in their budget for the council tax we pay them.

  • @raduniste6370
    @raduniste6370 Před rokem +2

    They say I understand where is coming from but I'm to prideful to acknowledge the truth in the end that vibe u guys give

  • @jeff32584
    @jeff32584 Před rokem +2

    We have almost free medical care in the UK, you have to pay for prescriptions and also a small amount towards dental care but major operations and doctor visits, etc are included in our national insurance and as a veteran, you get bumped up the list for your service. I only had to wait 18 days for a hip replacement which was then done in a private clinic.

  • @kjmorley
    @kjmorley Před rokem +6

    Being Canadian, I was confused by the 11% metric, as I know I pay at least 15 to 22% in income tax alone. But now I figure this number represents the total difference after benefits received, like employment safety net, maternity leaves, and healthcare etc. are added back in. Still, would like to know how they are calculating this number.

  • @HaurakiVet
    @HaurakiVet Před rokem +3

    The story of the poor woman who lost her Woolmart benefits (and her life) makes clear why that company could not open business in NZ. Unionism is protected and, through the employment court, so are the rights of the employee. Attempts to introduce US work practices were blocked, to the thanks of all potential players. I really feel for you guys over there. I receive some support from Veterans' Affairs here, not medical as we have a govt health system, but help with lawn mowing and the like for we oldies is much appreciated and help with other things as needed is readily accessed.

    • @Secretthewolf
      @Secretthewolf Před 10 měsíci

      They tried to open business in my country but our laws forbade most of their common practices and they tried to run their stores "american" which weirded our people out.
      So they closed everything really quickly and I'm glad my country protects its workers.

  • @xxx_phantom_xxxw_t_a9479

    Hello from Switzerland
    Regarding the Wallmart employee example, aside from medical treatment/expenses, note that in Europe virtually no country allows an employee to be fired while ill (by law).
    Likewise, no employer can force you to work if you are ill, you are also protected by law as an employee.
    Apart from the fact that the whole thing doesn't make any sense, you're sick, go to work and infect colleagues/customers until the whole company is sick; What kind of sense does it make?

  • @eh-i1841
    @eh-i1841 Před rokem +1

    I’m type one diabetic,and have been for 33 years.Because of that I have had heart surgery,and I have kidney disease.I’ve been in hospital quite a few times,including a stay to have a broken leg operated on,while I had covid.I have never had to pay a penny for any of my treatments,or for my prescriptions.I am British,and very glad about it.
    Oh,and,in the 70’s,I had 3 children,and none of the antenatal,delivery,or postnatal,or baby clinics,cost anything,at all.Long live the N H S.🇬🇧

  • @chrisellis3797
    @chrisellis3797 Před rokem +4

    A lot of channels I follow have gone down this rabbit hole and there's usually stages of denial followed by the eventual realisation that you are in a rough position compared to most social democracies.
    As an aside, you don't pay to call Cops or Fire services.... they're a social service. Shame the Government won't do the same for your health 😪😪

  • @rocinante4609
    @rocinante4609 Před rokem +12

    In Australia I have had 3 covid tests and never had to pay a dime from pocket. I am surprised that you guys in America actually have to pay for it out of your pocket. I also find it shocking that they will send your medical bills at a later date. In Australia they will always tell you upfront if you're req to pay and how much.

    • @Dr_KAP
      @Dr_KAP Před rokem

      Yeh it’s odd as insurance does cover it so maybe he had too many tests. The RAT tests are also free in the US

    • @fernandoramirez7661
      @fernandoramirez7661 Před rokem

      Sounds interested,

  • @user-bk9oi7xg9z
    @user-bk9oi7xg9z Před 11 měsíci +2

    Another point in the Walmart example. There is no way that would happen in the UK. Walmart would end up in court for dismissing her. And they would have been made pretty much bankrupt if she has died because of their actions

  • @adamski2108
    @adamski2108 Před 8 měsíci +1

    When someone who works in retail/hospitality in the US talks about having to work for tips because their wage is not substantial it hurts. It sounds like begging on the street would be as productive. Businesses get away with it because the laws allow them to. Every single business in every country will try and operate on the lowest possible expenditure if the laws permit it. Employees only get a fair deal if they stick together and demand better or if the laws of the country they are employed in set a minimum livable wage that increases in line with the cost of living.

  • @fullfacility
    @fullfacility Před rokem +3

    The thing that always puzzles people in other countries (I'm in the U.K.) is that you spend twice as much of your national income on healthcare than everyone else in the western world, and don't get the same level of service, so where does all the money go? You're getting ripped-off somewhere along the line.

    • @TheKatesoule
      @TheKatesoule Před rokem +1

      The hospitals are ran as businesses.....they have to publish their profits

  • @darrengrice222
    @darrengrice222 Před rokem +6

    I would just like to say you both are a great example of hope for America, two guys from different side of the spectrum willing to talk, listen and learn together, keep up the great work

  • @thefiestaguy8831
    @thefiestaguy8831 Před 2 měsíci

    I live in the United Kingdom. I am currently off work through sickness, with Pneumonia. Something that the lady mentioned in the video died from.
    I am currently in my 4th week off work - I have received FULL sickness pay since day 1. I have received two courses of antibiotics, for which I have paid a total of £19.30 (about $25). If I was over 60, or suffering with a lifelong chronic illness, or lived in Scotland or Wales, or was in full time education (i.e school/college) there would be NO charge.
    In the last 7 years I have been in the job, I have been off work in full for around 8 months thanks to numerous organ infections and other healthcare issues.
    For those 8 months off work - I have received FULL pay.... not "zero" pay or "half pay". FULL pay.
    Meanwhile in America I'd probably get a handful of days each year, or none, and if I took time off I'd be fired.
    The best bit? When I eventually return, my job was still there, and it will still be there when I return from this period of illness.
    I have private medical insurance in the UK - why? Because I can afford to. I pay £82 a month and that has a single excess of £100 a year (not per treatment, £100 per calendar year). That's a $125 (approx) "co-pay" or "deductible" and yet I only spend around $95 a month on my healthcare plan.
    I get UNLIMITED ("No limit") cover for inpatient and outpatient, cancer cover for life, mental health cover, and access to a GP, Doctor or Mental Health nurse 24/7 which I can book an appointment with through an app on my smartphone. I could literally go on there now and book an appointment with a GP for the same hour. The cost? included in the premium. These appointments are conducted via video call or telephone call.
    If I want a face to face doctor's visit with my private medical at their fancy hospital - I pay £20 per visit.
    If I get taken to hospital - the DOCTOR in charge of my healthcare decides what I need, and as long as the doctor decides I need something done, the policy will pay for it. It's not one of those American policies whereby they find any reason not to pay for it and make you jump through hoops (whilst you're ill in hospital) to argue back and forth to try and get them to pay for it.
    Nor do the hospital just suddenly start doing random tests I don't need, or don't want, because they want to "invoice" for them like they do in America. Here tests aren't done unless they are required, or it's beneficial to the patient or the diagnosis, because they have a cost.
    IF I am admitted to hospital, I can stay in the private hospital which is nicer than an NHS hospital. If I choose NOT to stay in the private hospital and am happy to stay in the NHS hospital - the insurance policy PAYS ME £50 (around $60) per night to do so as it saves them money.
    Of course, I could use the NHS system which I pay into by taxes, and it would be free.... I only have this private medical because it's a bit better than the NHS system and I can afford to pay for it.
    It ANGERS me that I have the exact same condition, and am undergoing treatment for, that someone in the USA literally DIED from because of the absolutely absurd, complete con, that is "healthcare" in the "Greatest nation on earth" as it's citizens are led to believe. I have NEVER ever been put off going to see the doctor because of "the cost"... because it's FREE at the point of use.
    Oh, the best part about the NHS?
    Not working? - You're still covered, FREE of charge even though you aren't paying taxes at all since you have no income.
    Retired and living on a pension, thus paying no taxes? FREE of charge cover.
    Lifelong medical condition which means you can't work for life? FREE of charge cover, for life.

  • @michaelnunnery6394
    @michaelnunnery6394 Před 5 měsíci +1

    A waitress working for Disney couldn’t understand why we had 300 meals on our Dinning Plan.
    We explained that we had decided to take 3 weeks out of our 5 weeks paid leave in one lump for our holiday.
    She answered 5 weeks paid vacation I don’t believe that.

  • @suemcbride1106
    @suemcbride1106 Před rokem +3

    I’ve lived in 15 different countries including the US but out of all the countries England is the one I’ve chosen to be and stay. The biggest difference I found that was that here someone will always help but in the US people always expected to be paid for any little thing . It was always about the money.

  • @Belfastchild1974
    @Belfastchild1974 Před rokem +3

    I did not expect you would react to this video, so even just doing that made me click the thumbs up before I had seen it. I do 100% agree with David that the US sucks at everything, but among the millions of citizens, there are still some pretty decent people, and I hope more of them will see what the US government has been doing wrong, regardless of whether it were the elephants or the donkeys, and that they will work together to bring change

  • @sylviarohge4204
    @sylviarohge4204 Před rokem +1

    The European Union is larger, with ~500 million inhabitants.
    The problem is not that the US is too big, but that the US political system is inoperable for such matters.
    Clientelism is often practiced in the USA.
    If you have money, you can literally buy MPs.
    This is also one of the reasons why the USA is only ranked 26th in the democracy rankings in the area of defective democracy.
    It would be possible to open the system.
    A big step would be, for example, to make Medicare and Medicaid accessible to everyone, so that everyone can register for them like any other insurance.
    The cost savings for many citizens would already be quite large, and this would also put private insurers under pressure to improve their offers and coverage.

  • @megs4193
    @megs4193 Před rokem

    YOU TWO!!!!!!! I LOVE THAT ABOUT AMERICA, ARTOFKIKZ, IWROKER, BLUE OCTOBER 💙 FRASIER 💞 THE BEAUTIFUL PEOPLE I SPEAK TO IN THE COMMENTS, CHARITIES, MRBEAST, I HAVE EXPERIENCED SO MUCH KINDNESS FROM AMERICANS I DON'T KNOW AND I WILL NEVER FORGET ANYTHING THAT'S BEEN SAID TO ME, I'VE EVEN ACTED ON ADVICE FROM PEOPLE I DON'T KNOW WHO WERE AMERICANS, A COUNTRY ISN'T LOOKED AT BY WHAT'S WRONG WITH IT OR NO ONE WOULD LEAVE HOME, I UNDERSTAND DAVID CROSS IS ANGRY, I THINK THIS VIDEO IS MEANT TO INSPIRE ACTION, THE 1ST TIME I WATCHED AN AMERICAN REACT TO THE WAGE DIFFERENCE, WE BOTH CRIED. I LOVE AMERICA FOR THE GOOD PEOPLE IN IT. ALSO I'M NOT YELLING I'M WANTING TO STAND OUT BECAUSE I'M VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS 💞💞💞🕊🕊🕊🕊🥺.

  • @danic9304
    @danic9304 Před rokem +10

    Re: having a solution ready - yes, but... sometimes there is a battle to get the problem discussed in a meaningful and cogent way in order for a solution to be identified. Sometimes you need to do more work, shifting the ground to a space where solutions can be discussed at all - because otherwise the solutions that do get offered just die in the infertile soil

  • @joeynessily
    @joeynessily Před rokem +8

    As a Brit… if someone says ‘UK sucks’… I go yeah! I know right.. loads of problems. My country, and most certainly the government and their policies, have zero connection to my identity… I am not my country. It always seem that Americans take criticism of their country as a personal attack on them. You shouldn’t feel the need to say “I love barbecue and Nascar”… just because you’ve said healthcare sucks… I’m not going to say “We need more funding to the NHS and the bastards in charge need to stop selling off our hospitals to their mates” … oh but I do like Yorkshire Pudding and Snooker!!

  • @seanpasttrip795
    @seanpasttrip795 Před rokem +2

    I'm a Brit. Luv the Yanks. Loud, Proud, Funny and in my experience very welcoming. Great show guys, just subscribed. Seeing this vid makes me realise how much we take the NHS for granted and the brilliant benefits we enjoy in Britain, yet we still moan.

    • @helenagreenwood2305
      @helenagreenwood2305 Před rokem

      Yes we need some rain so we can moan about the weather 😆

    • @seanpasttrip795
      @seanpasttrip795 Před rokem +1

      @@helenagreenwood2305 Ohh Yes. And also a quick moan about petrol now.. Can't win.

  • @diablo.the.cheater
    @diablo.the.cheater Před rokem +1

    14:35 the thing is that a gov funded healthcare system can't be effective if it is not general, the principal power of such a system is actually market domination, since the state becomes the primary client, it basically can dictate the prices it wants to pay and farma companies have to adapt, they ain't going to lose their primary client after all. This goes for everything not only pharma, also hospital tech, etc.
    This also incentivices the gov to keep the population healthy by making good regulations to make people healthy, mainly because the gov doesn't want to spend money in curing you, so it better keeps you healthy