American Army Veteran Reacts "Alan Turing - The Scientist Who Saved The Allies"

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Komentáře • 393

  • @DavidHeywood_Legend
    @DavidHeywood_Legend Před 10 měsíci +147

    As a Brit it makes me feel ashamed that this country treated such a brilliant man who was owed so much gratitude in the way they did

    • @ColmPadraig
      @ColmPadraig Před 10 měsíci +1

      How did winning the war benefit the British people exactly? Did the men in the trenches want their grandchildren to be minorities in their own land? Did they fight for gay pride parades? The normalisation of Pedophilia? Well if that's the case, then the good guys lost the war

    • @psychosoma5049
      @psychosoma5049 Před 9 měsíci +11

      It’s a shame thinking hasn’t moved on nearly as much as it should, people like us still get treated like scum….

    • @nigethesassenach3614
      @nigethesassenach3614 Před 9 měsíci +11

      I totally agree with your comment.
      The man was a true hero.

    • @kelvinmeneely3116
      @kelvinmeneely3116 Před 9 měsíci +9

      Don't freak out, AT...is.. and always will be a legend... I'm straight,and do not care about his gender/sexuality...or any other aspect, apart from his intelligence....I would hug him tightly and thank him for his input into math's...etc..! Thanks Alan!

    • @davidperry7128
      @davidperry7128 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Shameful that this country treated ANYONE in the way he was treated, hero or not.

  • @jimmydodds7897
    @jimmydodds7897 Před 10 měsíci +110

    There's a statue of Turin in Manchester. Not stood on any plinth but sat on a park bench in a quiet corner of a park near the village, in the city. Every anniversary it gets swathed in flowers.

    • @nickscott8541
      @nickscott8541 Před 9 měsíci +14

      Fantastic statue, I never even dare to sit next to it because I'm not worthy

    • @viviennerose6858
      @viviennerose6858 Před 9 měsíci +2

      As a southerner I take my hat off to Manchester for recognising and respecting true greatness. Thank You doesn't even begin to cover the gratitude I feel.

  • @beadsy-dl5up
    @beadsy-dl5up Před 10 měsíci +122

    The movie made about Alan Turing is called The Imitation Game starring Benedict Cumberbatch and is well worth watching

    • @32446
      @32446 Před 10 měsíci +12

      Great film

    • @intothemindshaft
      @intothemindshaft Před 10 měsíci +3

      100

    • @LowGrav1ty
      @LowGrav1ty Před 10 měsíci +3

      I was literally going to suggest this! 😂 my personal favourite film ever 😌 I hope they watch it on the channel 🙏 🤞

    • @skillaxxx
      @skillaxxx Před 9 měsíci +4

      I hate to be that guy, but the book it is based on (Alan Turing, The Enigma) is even better.

    • @LowGrav1ty
      @LowGrav1ty Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@skillaxxx yeah... it may well be...but a reaction to a book wouldn't exactly be CZcams worthy would it? 😂 😂

  • @strangelyjamesly4078
    @strangelyjamesly4078 Před 10 měsíci +45

    Perhaps the greatest stain on Britain's reputation, IMO, is the treatment of Alan Turing. He should have been one of the most celebrated war time heroes in British history, but no. Abandoned, thrown to the wolves and left to die by his own hand. A sin that will never, nor should it ever be forgotten.

    • @davidperry7128
      @davidperry7128 Před 8 měsíci

      Oh come on, there are so many, the Empire was a systematic rape and pillage of other countries, inventing the 'concentration camp', starving millions of Bengalis during WW2, the opium wars, vast sums of money made from slavery and there are more...

  • @pauldurkee4764
    @pauldurkee4764 Před 10 měsíci +52

    Much praise is of course given to Alan Turing for being the brilliant original thinker he was, but its fitting that Tommy Flowers gets a mention,a post office engineer possessed with genius to build Colossuss, the first progemmable electronic computer.
    May I also give a mention to two very brave Royal Navy men from HMS Petard, who boarded a sinking u boat to recover the enigma and its codebooks, and paid the price with their lives.

    • @davidmcintyre998
      @davidmcintyre998 Před 9 měsíci +3

      There was a number of what were called pinches and it may be the Dieppe raid was a cover for a pinch perhaps not this time not successful but very costly.

    • @qtube1980
      @qtube1980 Před 9 měsíci +1

      mr flowers didn't hide the sausage, therefore not suitable for Holywood.

    • @chrislewis4830
      @chrislewis4830 Před 8 měsíci +2

      Thank you so much you have mensioned the forgotten 2 navy men that contrary to popular belief were indeed English NOT American. As the films would make people belive otherwise. We ( the English )Was the First to capture the Enigma machine and the code books. Sorry i just hate the fact that these 2 men died to save the lifes of so many only to be replaced by fictional Americans steeling there glory and sacrifice. So my apologies for upsetting anyone or bursting bubbles of false pride

  • @Bearfacecat
    @Bearfacecat Před 10 měsíci +15

    He's recognised on the back of the fifty pound note.

  • @bevausterfield431
    @bevausterfield431 Před 10 měsíci +13

    It was Bill Tutte who cracked the Lorenz cypher. At the ripe old age of 22. Turing had the idea to automate the decryption to make sure the codes were cracked quickly enough to be useful, but it started with Tutte cracking the code.

  • @nick7076
    @nick7076 Před 10 měsíci +43

    Imagine what he could have accomplished had he lived into the 1970s.
    Bletchley was a hive of specialists, Turing was important but Tommy Flowers was also key. He had the technical knowledge to build the machine that Turing needed.
    Secrecy was so tight, that after the war people married and lived their whole lives not knowing they had worked in adjacent huts at Bletchley. They kept their secrets even in the marriage bed.

    • @grrfy
      @grrfy Před 10 měsíci +5

      Wasn'y just Bletchley though either, a few other places running concurrently and also checking Bletchleys work,however very little gets written about those ase more working class folks worked there,not from the right schools or background

    • @skillaxxx
      @skillaxxx Před 9 měsíci

      They did Tommy Flowers wrong too; his work not only not being recognized, but plainly stolen and it made IBM and the thieves billions whilst Tommy got jack ... aka only misery.

    • @iriscollins7583
      @iriscollins7583 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@grrfyApparently one of the Aunts of Catherine, Princess of Wales, worked at Bletchley .😊

  • @TenCapQuesada
    @TenCapQuesada Před 10 měsíci +61

    The movie "U 571" about the capture of an enigma machine caused such a furore in Britain that Tony Blair and Bill Clinton got involved - it said that the Americans captured it when in fact it was the British. Even the writer later said that it was a distortion of the facts.

    • @ianmuir3640
      @ianmuir3640 Před 10 měsíci +13

      It’s always the Americans coming to the rescue

    • @rde4017
      @rde4017 Před 10 měsíci +24

      @@ianmuir3640 Usually 2 years too late...

    • @eamonnsaunders7066
      @eamonnsaunders7066 Před 10 měsíci +25

      Just like in the film Saving private Ryan at the start with the landing craft been seen to be driven by US sailors when in fact it was Royal Navy Sailors that actually did it! It was a deliberate omission by the Director for the purpose of an American domestic audience!

    • @marywood8794
      @marywood8794 Před 10 měsíci

      I'm a dreaded American. It's not surprising that we're trying to rewrite your history. We do it all the time with ours. Now here they don't even bother. They just ban books that tell the truth. We shouldn't be stealing British achievements, particularly as it pertains to WW2, where Britain was key to stopping the spread of fascism. The key reasons that we got into the war so late were the population's fear after WW1 of another world war and rampant anti semitism. So cowards and bigots, who often are one on the same.

    • @adriangoodrich4306
      @adriangoodrich4306 Před 9 měsíci

      Not a distortion - a pack of outright lies! Total lies! HMS Bulldog captured the Enigma machine from U110 in May 1941- which, last time I checked, was over half a year before the US even entered the war. This was a truly disgraceful film, since it convinced many Americans of what was a total lie. It even caused a diplomatic incident between the UK and the US. Unfortunately, it was far from alone in ascribing to the US actions that were actually British.

  • @gabbymcclymont3563
    @gabbymcclymont3563 Před 10 měsíci +58

    What happend to him is criminal, so sad, fora amazing man.

    • @souljar9808
      @souljar9808 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Totally agree with you

    • @Be-Es---___
      @Be-Es---___ Před 10 měsíci

      The proof that female hormones make you dumb
      😅

    • @daisymaisy4877
      @daisymaisy4877 Před 10 měsíci +7

      Yes you're completely right he was a hero and instead of being cherished he was driven mad simply because he was gay, he deserved so much more.

    • @thatsthat2612
      @thatsthat2612 Před 10 měsíci +5

      @@daisymaisy4877 agreed, that man was treated horribly, he's one of the reasons we arent speaking German, he should be honoured

    • @blackcountryme
      @blackcountryme Před 9 měsíci +1

      It was of its time. It wasn't just the UK that treated people like that.

  • @abarratt8869
    @abarratt8869 Před 10 měsíci +68

    It's impossible to understate the impact Turing had. All of modern computing - literally all of it - hinges on his proof that one Turing machine could emulate another. That is what gives us CPUs, compilers, source code, web pages rendering, streaming video, the lot. This proof meant that, if you designed a "Turing complete" CPU, or a "Turing complete" programming language, then any problem could be tackled by any CPU or any programming language. He effectively pre-emptively proved that CPUs and software was able to do anything, given time and memory. And now look. Given that, ultimately, all that AI is is software running on CPUs or GPUs, he's underpinned that too.
    Turing Completeness wasn't essential for his war work; he had some very significant other ideas related to that. So, not only did he help win the war in less time, he then set up the entire computing industry that exists today.

    • @shelley1319
      @shelley1319 Před 10 měsíci +8

      Do you mean "overstate"?

    • @ZenzeroCAM
      @ZenzeroCAM Před 10 měsíci

      And it’s all lead to this… me writing out this comment on a CZcams video whilst I take a massive shit. Beautiful.

    • @davidperry7128
      @davidperry7128 Před 8 měsíci

      Turing and the rest of the team.

  • @corringhamdepot4434
    @corringhamdepot4434 Před 10 měsíci +30

    I still remember watching the BBC TV film "Breaking the Code" 1996 starring Derek Jacobi. Based on a play It was heart breaking to watch how Turin was pursued and destroyed by an obsessive police officer. Particularly how the chemical "treatment" destroyed his mental ability to function as a mathematician.

    • @hilarymiseroy
      @hilarymiseroy Před 10 měsíci

      That was a heavily fictionalised version of the truth.

    • @chancerystone4086
      @chancerystone4086 Před 10 měsíci +4

      @@hilarymiseroy In what way? if you are going to refute it, be specific.

    • @hilarymiseroy
      @hilarymiseroy Před 10 měsíci

      @@chancerystone4086Turing put himself into what was, at that time, a seriously compromised position. The young man he was involved with had a lengthy criminal record and was almost certainly a rent boy who set his victims up for blackmail or robbery. There have been unproven rumours that the police/MI5 believed Turing was a regular 'cottager' which would explain why MI5 did nothing to help him although the historian Max Hastings believes that they would have warned him about his behaviour but he ignored the warning. This was a time when Russia was infamous for using sexual blackmail to obtain information and created a paranoid atmosphere within the spook community.

    • @billyhndrsn4542
      @billyhndrsn4542 Před 7 měsíci

      To know that your home country, which was saved from the Nazi war machine, because of your mathematical genius could not love the person they choose was the most mentally damaging to his psyche, then forced chemical warfare upon his male body because of their twisted notions of what is true and correct for Alan, pushed him to a breaking point. This is the ultimate shameful of a hero.

  • @vikingraider1961
    @vikingraider1961 Před 10 měsíci +17

    A side note about how effective the decoding was - on the run up to D-Day, the French resistance were give instructions to cut every telephone line that they could - partly, obviously, to disrupt the German communications but mostly to force the Germans to use encrypted radio transmissions - which Bletchley Park could read!

  • @stevegee7593
    @stevegee7593 Před 10 měsíci +23

    Every body who talks about Colossus always mention that it was smashed up and buried in the park. What they don't mention was take there were six made one as said was smash 2 went to GC H.Q, the others disappeared over night along with 3 US lorries. Tommy Flowers wanted to build an Electronic Telephone Exchange but was refused funding because it was impossible. Unfortunately he could not say that he had already built one.

  • @TheMeerkat2323
    @TheMeerkat2323 Před 10 měsíci +11

    To say that Alan Turing was one of the greatest Brit's who ever lived is a MASSIVE understatement, it was his brain that came up with the forerunners of all modern computers and computing, his team that cracked what was thought to be an uncrackable code(Enigma), and he was the darling of the British government during WWII but as soon as the war ended, the government turned their back on him in the worst way possible. It was only after the war ended that they suddenly remembered that he was gay, and at the time, being gay was illegal, and they treated him like shit and with such utter contempt, the fact that they chemically castrated him after being such a hero just a few short years earlier just showed their contempt of him. The way he was treated by the government is one of the biggest stains in British history, right up there with the slave trade as far as I'm concerned. He helped end the war much earlier than it would have ended without him, computers wouldn't be what they are today without him, meaning the whole world would have been completely different if it wasn't for him and his unimaginably brilliant brain.
    When it came to cracking Enigma, he was helped in a huge way with the help of a very stupid German person, in order for them to keep Enigma "uncrackable" they had to wind the machine on one click per day to the next setting, this German forgot to click it over, and so Turing and his team had 2 days worth of codes with the same setting instead of different ones, and that led to them discovering Enigma's secret quicker, but with how brilliant Alan and his team were, they were sure to break it sooner or later anyway

    • @adriangoodrich4306
      @adriangoodrich4306 Před 9 měsíci +1

      I think you downplay the subsequent vital role of Tommy Flowers, who designed and built the world's first programmable electronic computer ("Colossus"). That made an equally-massive difference to the code-breaking. Around a dozen were built. As usual, because of obsessive British secrecy and the total crazy inability of the British Civil Service to recognise a huge commercial opportunity even if it hit them in the face, all but two of the machines were destroyed immediately after the war. And it was left to Westinghouse and ENIAC to claim and receive all the credit for one of the most significant inventions of the 20the century.

    • @TheMeerkat2323
      @TheMeerkat2323 Před 9 měsíci

      @@adriangoodrich4306 I did say Turing and his team, a team which included Tommy Flowers. Every single person who worked at Bletchley Park were very special people in their own right, they all did an amazing job, and I daresay that after the war ended, everyone who worked there right down to the tea lady, cooks and washer uppers were proud to have been linked to that place

    • @adriangoodrich4306
      @adriangoodrich4306 Před 9 měsíci

      @@TheMeerkat2323Fair enough - I guess I just get a bit touchy when I think Turing gets all the credit (not that he himself, one of my personal heroes, did not deserve massive credit, obviously!) and especially how Flowers was often airbrushed out. But, more to the point, it just seems to me that Turing, Flowers, the Poles, everyone involved were treated dreadfully by the establishment and by the history that they wrote. Turing of course worst of all. And how, as with so much else technological during the war, all the spoils and most of the credit unfairly passed to the US. What to me was most amazing was how all those thousands who deserved every accolade our country could bestow upon them never spoke about what they had done or achieved. And what was most upsetting, was how they were never allowed to be recognised for the millions of lives they saved.

    • @TheMeerkat2323
      @TheMeerkat2323 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@adriangoodrich4306 it is absolutely shocking how they were all treated, Turing, Flowers, every single one of them, I cannot comprehend the types of brain these people had, they certainly weren't normal brains like the rest of us have

    • @adriangoodrich4306
      @adriangoodrich4306 Před 9 měsíci

      @@TheMeerkat2323 Quite a few were on the spectrum. And they did more than so many others to save our country, and western civilisation. We owe so much to these heroes, who were never recognised in their lifetimes.

  • @rde4017
    @rde4017 Před 10 měsíci +9

    Alan Turing was a very British kind of superhero and is an LGBTQ+ legend. Re the Apple logo - Steve Jobs told Stephen Fry that the story is not true and said, "...but by God I wish it was."

  • @henriettafinch6057
    @henriettafinch6057 Před 10 měsíci +17

    Bletchley was like the x men school. Some who worked there never revealed it to their family and friends and those who did waited years. Some, especially the men, we’re shunned as cowards for not fighting in the war as they couldn’t reveal the incredibly important roll they were playing.

    • @davidmcintyre998
      @davidmcintyre998 Před 9 měsíci +1

      There are so many ways a modern war is fought and sadly many can never ever get the credit they deserve, i can remember when the Ultra secret came out some years after the landmark World at War was produced and can say never had any inkling that it had happened they really did keep their mouths closed.

  • @dr.zacking2097
    @dr.zacking2097 Před 10 měsíci +10

    Thanks for that guys, same home town as him....clever as fuck, did so much and treated like a scum sucker.....disgrace....he's a proper hero.....everyone who uses any type of computer or smart phone as a fall out from his work owes him.....which is everyone who sees this at least....thanks again, really pleased you picked this up 👏👍

  • @suckered1316
    @suckered1316 Před 9 měsíci +5

    He is not unsung , he is one of the most known names now. The unsung ones are the ones that went down in a hail of bullets on d day beaches, the ones whose names are totally unknown by most people. Sure he was treated badly at the time due to the situation with his sexuality which was not right clearly but a sign of the times. Turing is known by everyone, certainly not forgotten.

  • @johnruddick686
    @johnruddick686 Před 9 měsíci +10

    When I was young my headmaster worked at Bletchley park on the enigma code. She was a section chief. Definitely one of the most intelligent people I have ever met she spoke multiple European languages and was a magnificent mathematician. Educated at Cambridge she was amazing and greatly loved by everyone her funeral was massive hundreds of people attended including many of her Bletchley park alumni. Her dog walked up and down the school driveway for three days before realising she wasn't coming home and a few days later, I truly believe, died of a broken heart. 💔 🐕

  • @janetbrockbank323
    @janetbrockbank323 Před 10 měsíci +36

    What an amazing man and how he suffered is appalling! 😳

    • @janetbrockbank323
      @janetbrockbank323 Před 10 měsíci +12

      Alan Turing should have been knighted and just because he was gay! Terrible behaviour, he should’ve been honoured for all his talent and legacy xx 💕

    • @waynekerrgoodstyle
      @waynekerrgoodstyle Před 9 měsíci +5

      You may like to know that Alan's Great Nephew runs the charity called The Turing Trust.
      I used to do Volunteer work for the trust. The trust takes donated old Laptops & PC's and refurbishes them and sends them to sub saharan african school children.

    • @thedisabledwelshman9266
      @thedisabledwelshman9266 Před 9 měsíci +3

      i totally agree with you, but thats how it was dealt with in those days.

    • @postman2758
      @postman2758 Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@thedisabledwelshman9266I agree, that the treatment of anyone caught in a gay ‘encounter, relationship cruising’ chemical castration was barbaric, and the U.K. government haven’t done enough to compensate families who had loved ones forced into this by the law of the land.
      Alan Turing should have been posthumously given a knighthood or maybe a public holiday given on Alan’s birthday for his services to this country, and the Allied countries.

    • @iriscollins7583
      @iriscollins7583 Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@thedisabledwelshman9266Unfortunately.

  • @willrichardson1809
    @willrichardson1809 Před 10 měsíci +10

    My father worked with him when he moved down to Manchester and he never told any of us until the Imitation Game movie came out.

  • @gritnix
    @gritnix Před 10 měsíci +12

    I got to visit the museum at Bletchly a few months ago. It really was moving. As is said below, imagine what humanity might have had if we hadn't persecuted the man and driven him to taking his own life.

  • @michaelnolan6951
    @michaelnolan6951 Před 10 měsíci +6

    It's fitting (and quietly hilarious) that a statue of Turing sitting on a park bench looks out over Manchester's Gay Village.Specifically, Ground Zero of the village, Canal Street, (often with. street signs edited to Anal Treet)

  • @Paul-hl8yg
    @Paul-hl8yg Před 10 měsíci +15

    Turin was ahead of most of the rest of Humanity & they proved that quite clearly with how they treated him.. Backwards minds murdering a genius. It makes you ponder, how alike at that time we were to the enemy we were fighting, in the ideas of the era about anyone different. 🇬🇧🇺🇸

  • @chrisharris5497
    @chrisharris5497 Před 10 měsíci +8

    The way the British Government treated was both equally disgraceful and heartbreaking. I know times have changed since those days but how anyone during those days could have hold their hands up and say his treatment was just and humane astounds me. The Imitation Game was one of the most tragic films I have ever watched. The fact he received a royal pardon posthumously in 2013 means nothing in my book, yes it must men something to his family but the ideal thing would have been to treat a man who saved so many lives by ending the war early with the respect he deserved.

    • @gyver8448
      @gyver8448 Před 9 měsíci +2

      On that last part, it's worth noting that no one involved with his conviction knew about his service during the war. It wouldn't make it right even if he hadn't been a war hero, but just worth pointing out.

  • @davidmcintyre998
    @davidmcintyre998 Před 9 měsíci +7

    I have often wondered how many of those who persecuted him maybe even murdered him he had saved their lives.

  • @Mike-rw2nh
    @Mike-rw2nh Před 10 měsíci +9

    23:48 I can’t help but reflect that the people who worked at Bletchley would have been incarcerated in death camps by the Nazis. Thank you for this upload.

  • @philiprowney
    @philiprowney Před 10 měsíci +7

    I am waiting for the Churchill quote 'give them what they want!'

  • @alieffauzanrizky7202
    @alieffauzanrizky7202 Před 10 měsíci +15

    Props to him to made the first theoretical computer, that ended up making a lot of our digital device exist

  • @mrfrye18
    @mrfrye18 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Alan turing... what a guy! The imitation game is my favourite movie!

  • @carolinestirland3126
    @carolinestirland3126 Před 10 měsíci +5

    Excellent documentary gents

  • @lindylou7853
    @lindylou7853 Před 9 měsíci +5

    One lady in the hospital rehab ward kept on asking every member of staff and patients if they knew Bletchley. Most hadn’t heard of it at all. One day, someone asked her to tell him all about Bletchley as he’d never heard of it. “Oh, no! I don’t know anything. I mustn’t talk about it.” Obviously, she’d worked at Bletchley at some point. … She was fond of doing crosswords. … Later that week, she struck up a conversation with the young, male orderly. Rather, she said, “You’re rather nice, aren’t you? Have you got a spare 20 minutes? We can be quite private in here if you draw the curtains. Then we can have some fun. But I’ll finish my cup of tea and custard creams first. Hope to see you later, lovely.” She then winked at me and told me she’d been married five times and missed most of her husbands. I was somewhat taken aback. She was 93.
    … at 46.31 the girl typing on the video looks remarkably like her!!!

  • @ericjackson9496
    @ericjackson9496 Před 10 měsíci +6

    Alan turing and gorden welch. Who set up intelligence in the CIA. Basically came up with the idea of the cloud. Two very brilliant minds

  • @angelaauger169
    @angelaauger169 Před 10 měsíci +9

    I really believe if Turing could see how we live now - how his ideas have been put into production - he would be thrilled. But what gets me, is how much further these ideas could have progressed if he had lived😢

    • @waynekerrgoodstyle
      @waynekerrgoodstyle Před 9 měsíci +3

      You may like to know that Alan's Great Nephew runs the charity called The Turing Trust
      I used to do Volunteer work for the trust. The trust takes donated old Laptops & PC's and refurbishes them and sends them to sub saharan african school children.

  • @davidcrisp5805
    @davidcrisp5805 Před 10 měsíci +8

    What this film doesn't say is that the entire logical structure of Tunny was worked out from a *single* message that was accidentally transmitted twice on 31 August 1941. Turing himself wasn't directly involved with this - it was John Tiltman and Bill Tutte - but it probably qualifies as the single greatest feat of cryptanalysis ever.

    • @bloozee
      @bloozee Před 10 měsíci +3

      It amuses me when voice-overs say things about how long a computer would take to decode a single message.... but we know the more messages the easier it gets.

  • @ned_1963
    @ned_1963 Před 9 měsíci +6

    A uniquely brilliant mind that helped the war effort so much, together with his team of men & women using a unique, pioneering computer & gallons of tea!
    How he was treated was inhuman & cut short inventions we can only dream of!
    I'm English & there are no words I could use to express my horror of what we did as a society then.
    His proud portait adorned our £50 notes recently. Please look it up. 🙏

  • @pjmoseley243
    @pjmoseley243 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Alan Turin was treated as a criminal by the police and others of the time. He was a genius as a boy when he developed his IA theories. you can learn about him from his records at boarding school in Dorset England.

  • @marywood8794
    @marywood8794 Před 10 měsíci +9

    I've watched lots of the documentary history from this source that they're watching. All have been great! Glad to see them reacting to one.

  • @nellieknifton
    @nellieknifton Před 10 měsíci +6

    The history of Alan Turing is so wonderful and so sad at he same time. His brilliance, and those who worked with him, shorten the war and yet the government repaid him in such a way due to the bigoted view of the time. Whilst same sex relationships were honoured by various culture groups such as Romans, Greeks and Native Americans, the church made it illegal. Each to their own, it would be a very boring world if we were all the same, and no one should be persecuted for their sexual orientation.

  • @martinbynion1589
    @martinbynion1589 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Great to see a distinguished Academic from my alma mater explaining the massive role that Turing played in so many fields that have made, and continue to make such a massive impact on the lives of virtually everybody on this planet. 🙂

  • @Smoshy16
    @Smoshy16 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Turing and those around him were geniuses in every sense of the word. What's insane is that our current phones have more computing power than these early machines!

  • @gar6446
    @gar6446 Před 10 měsíci +7

    Post-war, all that happened at Bletchley was kept secret. All the staff had signed the official secrets act and generally it was all kept secret until the '70's.
    Alan Turing, a known homosexual ( still illegal ) must have been considered a security threat due to possible blackmail, and in certain circles his premature death would have been considered a tidy end to a possibly embarrassing situation in the future.
    Given his background Special Branch could easily have nipped his prosecution in the bud had they wanted to.

  • @martinbobfrank
    @martinbobfrank Před 10 měsíci +9

    I attended a work meeting about LBTABCDEF+ stuff and mentioned Alan Turing but nobody, including the guy delivering it, knew who he was. So sad!

  • @mosthaunted2
    @mosthaunted2 Před 10 měsíci +2

    There's a video of Steve Jobs denying the Apple logo is based on Alan Turing, but he says he wishes it was.

  • @brianpoole4369
    @brianpoole4369 Před 10 měsíci +2

    alan turing, was born and raised in MANCHESTER......just to tie in...your favourite manchester band oasis...with noel, and liam gallagher...and their love for manchester city, football club....did you know, the main arterial road, leading into the stadium...is now called THE ALAN TURING WAY!!....all mancunians...alan, noel, and liam...but light years apart from each other..lol

  • @kaylucas51
    @kaylucas51 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Oh how proud I am of our ancestors of their achievements and sacrifices how I love these British isles

  • @geoff1201
    @geoff1201 Před 4 měsíci +1

    A big shout for Tommy Flowers, an incredible engineer for his time, and yet almost no-one knows of him.

  • @Steve-ys1ig
    @Steve-ys1ig Před 10 měsíci +9

    Sadly the attitudes at the time were different. No other country would have treated him any better as the beliefs of the time were pretty universal. It is why both sides in the cold war were able to blackmail and threaten people because homosexuality or other indiscretions that would just not be a thing in modern times were considered weaknesses to be exploited.

    • @karstenstormiversen4837
      @karstenstormiversen4837 Před 9 měsíci +1

      Well you have the current situation in the US and some other extreemist countries in the world today!
      So it seems to me that the situation has not changed all that much in very middle age religious countries!

  • @abergreg
    @abergreg Před 9 měsíci +1

    Archimedes, Galileo, Da Vinci, Tesla, Einstein, Turing. Incomparable intellects. Its superhuman to conceive this, never mind building it too. America declared in 1944 that they had the worlds first functioning computer, we had to tell them that we'd had two since 1942.

  • @theblackwidowchronicles
    @theblackwidowchronicles Před 10 měsíci +4

    The Imitation Game is well worth watching. The way this genius was treated after he effectively won the Battle of The Atlantic on his own is sickening. Fine, it was overturned posthumously years later but that changes nothing.

  • @sh4969
    @sh4969 Před 10 měsíci +4

    Before Alan Turing worked on the first computer code breaker he was in American doing the maths for Project Rainbow the USS Eldridge.

    • @grrfy
      @grrfy Před 10 měsíci

      hahaha

  • @lizardthetongue
    @lizardthetongue Před 10 měsíci +1

    I watch u alot, by far this is the best, more like this please

  • @judywelch1044
    @judywelch1044 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I appreciate the content you choose AND you dont talk over the video. Great job.

  • @scottelev896
    @scottelev896 Před 9 měsíci +1

    The best American review you have done yet!

  • @markdavids2511
    @markdavids2511 Před 9 měsíci +1

    This man was a genius & his treatment by the British government upsets me to this day. RIP Mr Turing.

  • @timsimpson9367
    @timsimpson9367 Před 10 měsíci +3

    It was Tommy Flowers, who built the computer. He worked for the Post Office. Turing worked out the code. This was the breakthrough. We gave all the transmissions to the Russians for the battle of Kursk. and everything else. From there the Germans were lost. Information wins wars.

  • @BogusOp
    @BogusOp Před 10 měsíci +1

    the stadium where Manchester City play their home games is called "Allan Turing Way"

  • @jamesalderson3685
    @jamesalderson3685 Před 9 měsíci

    Thanks guys that was a good video

  • @pauljmorrow509
    @pauljmorrow509 Před 10 měsíci

    Thanks for educating me.

  • @jonathangoll2918
    @jonathangoll2918 Před 10 měsíci +4

    One good thing came out of Turing's death. There was some dismay among some top people - including I believe Winston Churchill - and the result was the Wolfenden Report of 1957, which recommended legalisation of homosexuality. Ten years later (1967?) homosexual acts between those over 21 in private were permitted.
    Bletchley Park ( now in Milton Keynes, Buckinghamshire) is well worth a visit. All the huts have been preserved, although it is a separate charity that runs it, and this makes it a bit expensive to go in. There is a working model of Colossus. Many computer giants ( e.g. Bill Gates) have contributed to its preservation.

  • @shellieeyre8758
    @shellieeyre8758 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Turing as the inventor of the computer - Ada Lovelace says hello.

  • @SRPM-yk9xw
    @SRPM-yk9xw Před 10 měsíci +3

    Great to see you find out more about Alan Turing. It's a shame the pacing of the documentary itself was so slow, though.

  • @Gomorragh
    @Gomorragh Před 10 měsíci +6

    Between Turing and the other people who did the misinformation mission in the mediterranean, that basically ended the war in europe through not only decrypting everything, but also being better at the misinformation game than anyone else, unfortunately, because of shortsightedness the future electronics industry that could have been based in the uk was shot down by those who didnt take Turin seriously and had no proof of what he could do.

  • @pauldear6660
    @pauldear6660 Před 8 měsíci +1

    There is a 2014 film starring Benediction Cumberbatch playing the part of Alan Turing called, "The Imitation Game". It's well worth a watch. It was also found that Cumberbatch and Turing are distantly related. They are 17th cousins.

    • @colonyofrats4193
      @colonyofrats4193 Před 6 měsíci

      He’s related to Richard the third not Alan Turing

  • @zee2012
    @zee2012 Před 10 měsíci +1

    What went on at Bletchley park was only declassified from 1975 onwards

  • @mnomadvfx
    @mnomadvfx Před 9 měsíci +2

    The problem is that Turing was just one of many unsung heroes of the code breaking efforts at Bletchley Park.
    People love to pile on the Turing train because of what happenned after - but many others go on nameless in the shadow of his myth.

    • @stefannils2032
      @stefannils2032 Před 9 měsíci

      You're right there were others as well but he was the main man and a genius who was eventually brought down by sad little men and their hatred and bigotry my dad a big Afrikaans guy and soldier said never give power to the weak., because they have a score to settle for all their past abuses and will abuse power that's why I.pray the weak shall never inherit the earth

  • @Georgeolddrones
    @Georgeolddrones Před 10 měsíci +2

    Hi guys, watch your videos but don’t comment much but this one is brilliant. Thanks again from one of you old pensions in England 👍😂🍺🍺

  • @martinconnors5195
    @martinconnors5195 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Turing was a radical, a trailblazer, pioneer, an extraordinary historical figure. But he was a British WWII hero and a genius

  • @grahamstubbs4962
    @grahamstubbs4962 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Bletchley was chosen because it was half way between Oxford and Cambridge (the two premier universities in the UK).
    At the time there was a railway between the two.
    Usual thing. War on. Best get the brightest on the job.

  • @philiprowney
    @philiprowney Před 10 měsíci +1

    19:00 - so mad, my brother worked for Nixdorf Computer in the late 80's. I never knew!

  • @iankinver1170
    @iankinver1170 Před 10 měsíci +2

    although some people have always disliked the unconventional, one has to bear in mind that until the introduction of the transistor some years later, none of his ideas could have been fulfilled. the people he was dealing with knew only valves, therefore could not see how his machines could be built. i like your stuff by the way. you're prepared to watch the longer stuff and actually learn something.

  • @petermizon4344
    @petermizon4344 Před 10 měsíci +5

    WHAT THE BRITISH GOV DID TO HIM IS UNDESCRIBIBLE, I AM ASHAMED TO BE ENGLISH, HE STOPPED A LOT WORSE THAT COULD HAVE HAPPENED

    • @ColmPadraig
      @ColmPadraig Před 10 měsíci +1

      Then leave. A lot worse? What like? A homogenous Britain?

    • @petermizon4344
      @petermizon4344 Před 10 měsíci

      @@ColmPadraig TAKE YOU ARE A NAZI THEN,

    • @rde4017
      @rde4017 Před 10 měsíci +3

      Never be ashamed to be English, we have learnt the lessons from the mistakes made in the past. I'm sure our beloved Alan Turing would agree with me. x

  • @gyver8448
    @gyver8448 Před 9 měsíci +2

    To be clear: Apple has denied the idea that their logo was inspired by Alan. Although Stve Jobs did say he wished he had thought of that after it was suggested.

  • @adriennewalker1715
    @adriennewalker1715 Před 8 měsíci

    My dad was in the Royal Navy and served in many theatres, including the Atlantic Convoys. Without Alan Turing, my dad may not have come through - it was harrowing enough despite the codes being broken - I, and my brother and sisters have a lot to thank Alan Turing for. … dad didn’t marry his sweetheart until well after the war was over! That he was driven to take his own life after all he had done for his country is despicable.

  • @lordgandalf22
    @lordgandalf22 Před 9 měsíci

    Been to bletchley park and its impressive.

  • @tagKnife
    @tagKnife Před 10 měsíci +2

    You should watch the Movie crated from Turings biography.
    Its a great reenactment of his thoughts, actions, difficuties and life.

  • @beadsy-dl5up
    @beadsy-dl5up Před 10 měsíci +2

    This is where the Apple in the Apple logo came from as a shout out to Turing

  • @johnchristmas7522
    @johnchristmas7522 Před 9 měsíci +2

    I dont know whether you know, but the UK gave the USA its knowledge on Radar, the type that used to spot the luftwaffe Aircraft during the Battle of Britain, they even set up a radar station at Pearl Harbour for the Americans. The Americans given the task of watching it got disterested and joked about it disparagingly and later watched the Japanese destroy Pearl Harbour.

  • @ct5625
    @ct5625 Před 10 měsíci +4

    It's such an incredible waste of human potential. He was so unfathomably intelligent, conceiving ideas decades before their time, and who knows what he could have done had he lived and been respected and listened to. We are probably more than a century behind because of this loss. Not only were his own ideas decades ahead of their time, their development would have led to a hastening of technological progress from peers and industry. Who knows where we might be had he lived.

  • @peterireland4344
    @peterireland4344 Před 3 měsíci

    I've sat next to him on his bench in Manchester. I cherish that experience.

  • @dawncarver5277
    @dawncarver5277 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Have u seen the imitation game movie with benedict cumberbatch?

  • @arwelp
    @arwelp Před 8 měsíci +1

    At least in 2021 they got round to putting Turing on the back of the Bank of England £50 note - the highest denomination.

  • @williamunsworth933
    @williamunsworth933 Před 8 měsíci

    I saw the movie the imitation game, a real hero, who was treated like a criminal,he won the war for the allies,I am from uk,think he was a great man and a genius.❤

  • @paulwright9749
    @paulwright9749 Před 10 měsíci +4

    I think recently the Apple Corporation confirmed that the Apple logo was not a homage to Alan Turning. The homage was to Sir Issac Newton, the greatest genius of them all.

  • @ChubbBates-mh5xp
    @ChubbBates-mh5xp Před 3 měsíci +1

    Another British legend to go with Fred Dibnah

  • @mikemines2931
    @mikemines2931 Před 9 měsíci

    Like picking six winners at an afternoons race meeting...every message. That's the key.

  • @grahamboffey457
    @grahamboffey457 Před 8 měsíci +1

    The Polish secret service gave the UK a version of Enigma that gave the UK a massive insight into its workings. This seems to be forgotten.

  • @LoneRanger100
    @LoneRanger100 Před 10 měsíci +2

    And we still have Americans, very recently, asking us if we ‘have computers in England’, as one asked a relative on a flight to Heathrow. Yeah, we only invented them, and the internet. You’re welcome. Have you got electric kettles yet?

  • @charlesmarshall8046
    @charlesmarshall8046 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Your thumbnail is mistaken. There’s nothing “unsung” about Turing, he’s the father of modern computing.

  • @bernarddegrasse8753
    @bernarddegrasse8753 Před 9 měsíci +1

    A friend of mine only found out his mother worked at Bletchley park during WW11 not long before she died.

  • @DruncanUK
    @DruncanUK Před 10 měsíci +2

    The suggestion that the Apple logo was a reference to Turing is an urban legend. It was debunked by Apple themselves. (If I remember right. it actually referred to Sir Isaac Newton - but I'm not 100% on that)

  • @csiredbourn
    @csiredbourn Před 8 měsíci

    I recommend anyone who can visits Bletchley Park, it’s a phenomenal working museum and the enigma is unbelievable

  • @canvashut815
    @canvashut815 Před 9 měsíci

    Thanks for this video it was of interest to me as I had no idea and I live on a housing estate which has roads named Bletchley , Fasson , Brown, petard and Grazier there’s a plaque on the local green recognising these men’s heroic capture of Enigma machines who died doing so.. this location because of being the birthplace of Colin Grazier, and local ex-service men campaigned to have it erected in 2002 having been shrouded in secrecy for many years ..

  • @Aloh-od3ef
    @Aloh-od3ef Před 10 měsíci +4

    The enigma machine was originally used in the banking industry to keep communications between banks secure 😉

    • @davidmcintyre998
      @davidmcintyre998 Před 9 měsíci

      A German anti Nazi gave the secrets of the enigma machine to shall we say interested parties before the war, Putin has taken a tired people to war Hitler took a unsure people to war but was bolstered by early victories even so some Germans never lost focus of just where this evil man was taking them.

  • @gtaylor331
    @gtaylor331 Před 10 měsíci +5

    I know it makes no sense and shouldn't matter, when I hear someone say 'Math.....' it makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand on end. I am with Jimmy Carr on that.....................

    • @philiprowney
      @philiprowney Před 10 měsíci

      🤣

    • @davidmcintyre998
      @davidmcintyre998 Před 9 měsíci

      I dont dislike the United States at all a great and generous people but yes i say Maths i dont call sea buoys booies and watch films not movies but thats because i am British and accept they are entitled to speak as they please.

  • @meganjb10
    @meganjb10 Před měsícem

    The bunker is on display as it was in liverpool it is called western approaches , after the war they closed the doors , when opened it was exactly the same ,

  • @4321woodsy
    @4321woodsy Před 8 měsíci

    The description of Bletchley Park makes me think when I first got posted to GCHQ.
    I arrived thinking it would be the same old military base but boy was I wrong.
    The first person I met was a guy who couldn’t walk down the hall without touching each wall. It turns out he knew every single different rocket system every country had ever made and got tapped up by NASA. He had acting rank of Colonel.
    Another person who was in my team used to come up with sudoku’s in her head and we used to have competitions who could beat it first.

  • @alana8863
    @alana8863 Před 8 měsíci +1

    Did he save my father's life? Or did he save my mother's? I don't know, but if he did then I owe him my life. So many of us do.
    As a Brit I'm ashamed that he was treated in such a way.

  • @robinaldred312
    @robinaldred312 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Perhaps his biggest legacy is actually what gave the film "The Immitation Game" it's title. He devised "The Turin Test" the first and so far most effective way to determine if a computer really has artificial intelligence or is just a machine immitating human thought.