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WT: A flight in the FW190 A-1 (RB, patch 1.61)
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- čas přidán 17. 08. 2016
- I take to the RB skies in the FW190 A-1, looking to see what this plane's capable of when it achieves an energy advantage. To be honest I didn't expect it to be very good, but I was pleasantly surprised...
0:30 Also makes the experience more enjoyable as a whole c:
3:38 Don't be afraid to use WEP more when climbing
4:50 Closing the throttle in short dive BnZ attacks can allow your target to get a few shots off or pull a reversal. In the Fw, I always just stay at 100% throttle unless I'm already traveling at 600kph or above. Even then I might still maintain 100% throttle in a dive because you don't really have to worry about ripping your wings in the Fw-190A1. All the Fw's have very sturdy wings.
7:30 You tend to use long, strafing bursts. Try to go for more accurate, much shorter bursts. If you only hold down the trigger for 0.25-0.5 seconds at a time, it'll feel like you have a lot more ammo and you'll be achieving the same effects. The only time you should be spraying is if you're attacking a bomber.
8:46 Your machine guns are definitely worth using, they won't do damage nearly as fast but sustained fire with your mg's (sustained fire is something you can afford to do in this case) is pretty effective.
10:00 That's not necessarily the case, while they definitely could go for altitude advantage and that would be the smart play, it's not guaranteed that they will.
10:15 20 minutes is more than enough for most missions, 30 minutes of fuel is the most you should ever need. Any more than 30 minutes will just slow you down.
11:46 You're really lucky here, nobody should ever get this close to an enemy airfield unless supported by their whole team, or unless they have a death wish.
Hello
Great analysis !!
I'am trying to start in planes in AB mode. Using a FW-190 how do you defend of an attack when the other plane has an energy advantage ?
F Igoillo I'm assuming you're talking about the A1? Generally speaking you want to keep an eye out so you don't get into such a situation to begin with, but if you do, then you have to pay attention to how close they are from you. You don't ever want to dogfight in any Fw unless you're very confident in your knowledge of both your plane and the other player's plane. Even then, the strong suit of any Focke Wulf is it's BnZ capabilities.
If the other plane is >5km from you, you can try to turn away from them and keep climbing. Most pilots won't follow you unless you're completely alone or the last player on your team.
If the other plane is 5-3km away, you can try to level out and increase the distance (provided you're at or above 3000m altitude). Run towards allies if they give chase. If you're within this distance, you should have plenty of room to accelerate before they catch up either way.
At ranges of
Muddy Fudger Thank you very much for sharing your knowledge!!!
I'll keep in mind your advice. It seems that I choose a difficult plane to start playing Air battles in WT :/
F Igoillo I wouldn't necessarily call it difficult, I think it's just a lot different from what most people would come to expect if they only played arcade or haven't flown a thoroughbred energy fighter before.
There's also the fact that playing BnZ in RB takes a lot of patience and caution. I think the Fw is a lot more forgiving than some energy fighters since it's almost impossible to tear the wings off, but the area where most pilots fail when it comes to flying this machine is self restraint. Pilots who initiate dogfights or get into situations where their only option is to dogfight are the first to come to mind, but there's a lot more to it. I think what it comes down to in the end is just having good awareness of your surroundings and what's going on in the game. If you don't let planes get above your or get the jump on you, you're gonna have a huge leg up in every fight.
This being said, I'd actually argue that BnZ tactics are significantly easier than dogfighting, at least at higher skill levels. BnZ is a very recursive skill set-you get a energy advantage, you make a pass or dive on your target, and then you use your speed to stay out of their guns and return to a higher altitude. If you fail to kill them at first, you rinse and repeat. It's relatively simple when you compare it to learning the complex maneuvers you'd have to use in a dogfight to be successful, it's much more complicated in my opinion.
Muddy Fudger Your advice has been very helpful. I'm slowly getting the experience and as you say it's more of patience , caution and self awareness.Still learning each type of plane :/
Most of the time I get shot down is for forcing an attack when I should have abort and reset or not paying attention to where my BnZ ends ( like in an area saturated with enemy planes )
I hope that with time I get to be more useful to the team, so far i get many assists and 2 to 4 kills.
Also changed to the FW190-A4
Yeah that was a good match from you mate :) you were very generous about that crash of mine hehe ;) i was too eager and got too close. but was a fun flyout overall! i'll make sure to use this footage in the compilation once we've complete the flyout.
He could use the footage of you crashing into the ground as his new intro. j/k, good flying
this would be JAMMING WITH JENGAR
hehe, crashcompilation of jengar wouldnt say much about long5hot though ;) although it could be funny :)
+Jengar I do realise this but... I did even think I could leave a L WITH LONG5HOT, but the only thing that I could think of was lactating with long5hot
Jengar? More like ginger HÖHÖÖÖÖÖÖ
Great video fella. The sense of satisfaction in winning an RB game is fantastic, especially if you take the last plane out with a carefully timed head on. Good stuff.
A wingman makes RB 100% more enjoyable.
Its so true. A good squad does the same for AB, but only if you don't take it seriously & there's lots of joke-telling & beer being consumed ;)
+long5hot The most fun was a full squad of spit mk2b's in RB (you NEED to fly it sometime) we had a total of 11 kills between four people. (I had 4)
That's the only problem with RB though - not enough kills to go around.
+long5hot RB needs an income boost. Not everyone gets 5 kills (sometimes though!). If I have 2-3 kills I am happy but I make a lot more lions in AB
I thought RB had a better kill bonus per kill?
But if you are indeed averaging like 10 kills in AB then yeah I think the ratios more like 1-3 or 1-4 not 1-10 haha
Hi Long5hot. Really good to hear you positive. Likewise that there is further WT material to come :-).
Your insight into RB, as a good pilot in AB, is really interesting.
Thanks for your great work!
Happy you r joining RB. It really makes each plane and each battle feel special and more satisfying
Sim is the same thing all over again
man, I wish I found that channel earlier. By now, I quit playing War Thunder myself... those FW 190 were always my favourites to fly, they are also beautiful planes (especially the Antons) and long5hot makes AB look like a fun gamemode (I know this is RB, but just watch his other videos) - I just got to know it as that hot mess that made him quit eventually...
I like RB. I like the satisfaction of a strategy or plan working out. Most of the time the plan does not survive the action but that is live. Keep up the vids
Its great to see you in Rb, glad you made the choice to give it a try. The adrenaline pumping when you are the last one and you manage to win the match is the Best, for this little things I play Rb. Keep it up!!!
Yep I totally agree - that's the 2nd time I've been in that situation. The first was a year ago, where after RTBing I found myself alone in an F2A-1 vs a Bf109 E-1 and F-1. Came out of it victorious because I had an alt advantage on the E-1, and the F-1 was actually out of ammo with a dying engine having decided not to RTB but instead hang around to try and set me up for his buddy. One of those games that I should have put on youtube, and didn't ;)
@@long5hot thé Buffalo isn’t as much of a turd as people say it is. Bf109s in particular do seem to underestimate it…
glad to see you aren't leaving. I always thought you would do well in RB, your flying style is really well suited to the RB game mode. having enough kills to go around will always be the challenge.
I've began to dabble a bit in RB. however, I only fly with a wingman or squad. I have LOTS to learn about the game mode and am glad that your videos will be here to make the transition easier. I learned a ton from your AB videos.
best of luck in your new adventure.
Bravo Long5hot! This was a wonderfull RB match. Happy to hear you will try realistic. Like I told you in last video's comments, I think you can become a realy good RB player. Cheers mate for a nice video....and also cheers to my squadron leader Jengar ;)
Im glad you have decided to try RB before leaving WT. I think i am going to try it as well
Hell yeah fam, thanks for not quitting, I don't play much, but I'll start to play again, hope to see you online :)
I am loving the preview for next time at the end of the episode. Nice work. I can't wait for the analyze this in rb. In my opinion arcade has become too much rinse and repeat waiting game and lost its adrenaline punch. In realistic battles there are times after a dogfight I feel my heart pounding in my chest and a sense of relief if I get out alive. Great work long shot and I am looking forward to the next one
LongShot i am new to your vids , but they are really great to watch ! thank you for your great work ! Ky
Glad to see your back! It's been a while. I enjoyed this video. I thought it was a nice change of pace.
Heh, it'll probably be the regular pace from now on ;) Are you still flying? Haven't seen you around in a long time, not that I've been on TS very often myself.
+long5hot Nah I haven't been on at all in the last 4-5 months. Been super busy with Uni, plus I broke my computer and haven't had the desire to hope back on much. You never know your videos may just encourage me to get back into it.
Sweet, I too am trying to get into RB once more so it'll be nice to follow along with someone. My ultimate goal is to learn how to fly the P-38 effectively in it (as America's top scoring aces used it, and it is a gorgeous aircraft). Subbed
It’s not bad with the air spawn
A couple of points to make:
*Fuel Choice:*
I would say that 45 minutes a little too much fuel to be bring out with the Fw190 A-1, while the impact of the extra 15 minutes of fuel is marginally on performance. In my experience it is exceedingly rare that 30 minutes of fuel turns out to too little fuel in a typical RB battle.
Alternatively the 20 minute fuel load for when you play aggressively with your limited MG FF/M cannon ammo and look for a reload early in the match can be a legitimate tactic.
This is all personal choice and there is pros and cons to each choice so an RB pilot will have to weight it up and decide what suits them best. A pilot comfortable with their fuel choice is better than some second guessing their choice and distracting them from the combat.
*Climbing:*
The initial climb is usually pretty decisive in deciding the match, so using your WEP to maximise your climb is quite beneficial and managing your engine temperature carefully can be worth a couple of hundred metres, for the more hardcore a dive into Manuel Engine Control (MEC) can be very rewarding, but it is an overhead that you have to deal with as well and it is more effective in certain planes.
*Ammo:*
This really comes down to the individual pilot however I prefer to use stealth for my BnZ planes to give me the largest window of attack as the target can not response to my tracer, especially on planes with low primary weapon loads outs like the Fw190 A-1.
This again has draw backs as you have to be extremely confident in your knowledge of the gun and drop rate so once more it is balancing the pros and cons to what you feel comfortable with in game.
A comfortable pilot in a plane with a sub optimum loadout is better than a pilot distracted by the load out choices he has made.
*Overall:*
Solid video, I am happy to see a pilot that fully acknowledges that he makes mistakes because we all do and you not only benefit yourself by highlighting them but other watching as well. I look forward to more video and maybe I will run into you in the sky.
Excellent comments, thanks :)
I'll certainly use more stealth ammo in the future, I've just got to improve my aim first. You can see that my initial bursts are off target more often than not, and the tracers allow me to correct whereas with stealth I'd simply miss.
Yes, the switch to stealth is quite a shift and it took me awhile to be able to perform reliably with stealth belts, however what I find now when I use tracer is that I spend so much time focused on the tracer, I find myself distracted from leading. It sort of counter intuitive as the tracer is meant to be helping you lead but I find it to be a little blinding now.
Overall I consider the switch to stealth to be extremely beneficial but it is hard work and there are certain guns that I hopeless with regardless of the belts.
Great guide! Certainly useful for anyone who are new to RB.
The only thing I can add is the gun convergence. While what range you pick will depend on preferences, I would recommend using 500m first to get used to leading, then you can adjust the range when you are more familiar with it.
love the a-1. great little boom and zoomer
Nice vid Long5hot. Very glad to see you finding some enjoyment left in War Thunder. I too have been getting fed up with a lot of the changes to AB. So I am very exited to see what you have to bring to the table in RB. Good on ya, and keep it up man. Thanks for all your hard work in producing these high quality vids.
AB is nothing but bomber SPAM sadly. It's killing AB for me.
I had a match this morning 4 mins and 9 secs, I had 31 secs combat time. By the time i got to alt and started an engagement the match was over.
That was a 6.0 BR match. BTW
Greaaaaat, I had to semi-scold InfiniteTeeBag when he rolled out his He111 and basically won first place and the game by pressing SPACEBAR. I was so tempted to shoot him out of the sky, LOL. (he's a squadmate)
you are still better than most rb players fresh from arcade
Great vid *long5hot* m8!!! i actually just learned how to use the Fw-190 A-1 and i've spaded it :). I really *LOVE* your collabs with Jengar and tx141 etc... I wish you guys would come over to =NmY= Unrivaled, or combine NmY and DMH so we could all fly together!!!
great to watch your vids again! please play more RB.
Ok you have me close to RB now...Nice Job!
Happy to see you in RB! Please try out the Fw190A4. More ammo and guns, and houses incredible potential. When you see a P51D above you and you smile, then you mastered the Fw.
I'll certainly try it, not sure when though. But in AB I'm used to seeing P-51Ds and smiling - I know they're probably better in RB, but I doubt the improvement is significant seeing that most combat is still well below their preferred altitude.
It's way better in RB. The D30 even climbs like the Fw's. And the 50cals can actually damage something. Big weakness: The rollrate. Utilising the rollrate in the Fw can make you able outmaneuver even yak3ps
Thank you for your excellent work!
More RB videos from you would be great!
As have played too much RB in warthunder ive got to say, you are still better then 80% of players in RB. I still see players in tier 4 matches who don't climb, dive down on first thing they see and try to turn fight zeros in p47s. The more you play RB the more you come to enjoy it, i have found anyways.
You should try using the Bf 109 F4. I found it very easy to fly in RB and i've achieved most of my achievements in this plane. This plane has helped me to unlock most of the Tier 4 planes in the nation Germany and I hope you find this plane as helpful as i did :)
Great plane to take out in RB. it's a nice balance of firepower and maneuverability/climb-rate. I also recommend the turncoat USBF-109 F4 because you get placed in matchups where your plane can climb fast and surprise your opponents who are not expecting that capability from the US planes. The A7M3 (is that the standard one?) is also fantastic in RB. I also know my squadmates, Korgeth and Slipstream, like the Ki-100 in RB as well. A couple of tips, the fuel amount is not necessary and you should go with the minimum IMHO. Also, get used to using your takeoff flaps more. This will come in handy should you ever take a carrier plane out for a spin and forget to use them only to splash like a newb into the drink ; )
Oh, and the AAA is much more accurate than it used to be. The current FOBs are probably like the old version's main airfields.
Great insight. Great vid.
Learning the 190 A-1 right now, in fact. This is helpful for me, in spite of any mistakes you make. Glad to see you back in RB!
Been wondering, would you be willing to do an instructional video on the Bf-109B-1?
Wow there's a plane I haven't touched since I spaded it, and back then it was a brick with wings. I believe its flight model has changed since then, so I'll give it another try. I do think it'll be a difficult challenge to be effective with it in RB, considering some of the opposition it faces - F2As, P-40s, Hurricanes & Spit 1a's etc.
long5hot Flying and spading this plane taught me the fundamentals of energy fighting and trigger discipline; knowledge that I've carried over into my use of the Emil series.
Thank god you're back.
The annihilation of Arcade really made tha game a pain but at least RB is still an option, i actually spent most of my time in RB on arcade maps when i was still playing.
I have really come to enjoy jets in realistic but constantly being matched against F-86's in my Mig-9 and Stock Mig-9L is a bit of a problem.
Though to be honest the Mig-9 does not really care about the airframe boosts because N-37
That's not possible anymore since MiG 9's are 7.0 BR. I just shaded the MiG 9 Late and let me tell you... it is *glorious* when you get the hang of it's ballistics.
+wiz4rd spaded, not shaded haha
+wiz4rd did they change that in 1.61? Because i remember mig-9's always had 8.0 rb battle rating.
+wiz4rd i am away right now so i can't play, and have only spent little time in rb with my migs lately, because they were so much more enjoyable being among the few planes capable of effectively taking out other planes thanks to mah N-37.
Imagine seeing Jengar and Long5hot BOTH on the enemy team...
I would literally be quivering in a pool of my self.
Funnily enough on the Deck turning landing flaps on and off you can out turn spitfires in the 109 E4
Good to see you in RB
Good to see you flying RB too ;)
leave arcade behind and come to the dark side..... air RB.... it may not be as fast paced as arcade but the intensity that can be experienced from even one good kill or dogfight is worth the 5 - 10 minutes of climbing and positioning at the start of the match, in fact i enjoy the climb phase immensely. setting your self up for victory before you even spot the first enemy plane is satisfying in itself. having better discipline and more patience than the enemy is the key to victory in RB as well as skill but i find the former to be the number one insurance against a repair bill....... ive always wondered why you haven't done RB more often as you have an incredibly vast knowledge of energy and ACM. glad to see you giving it a go.
It's nice to see your progress in RB, although the general judgement and aiming could still use some work! :) Keep it up!
you shot me down the other day ;) glad to see you put up great videos aswell. Cheers!
I did? Sorry about that - I'm sure it could just as easily have gone the other way. Glad you enjoy the vids, thanks :)
Someone else put it very rudely, but something you might wish to try and which shouldn't be too hard to adjust to is to put your machine guns on spacebar, and your cannons (or both) on left mouse button. Since I know you play with space as default for all guns, you will already be used to shooting with that and by using short click bursts with the cannons only when you are certain of a nice lined up shot you will conserve more shells. In addition, flying in my 109 F-4 (great plane for this mode) I use the mg's to harass anyone I am chasing with short bursts, and sometimes you can force them to turn to evade the bullets...often in these cases, exposing their profile for a short cannon burst to the wing. Keep making videos I have learned a lot from watching them.
I do indeed have mappings defined for cannons/machineguns, I'm just not in the habit of using them yet. Old dog, new tricks etc :)In saying that, each occasion in this video where I fired cannon I was at close range & closing fast, usually with a deflection shot - the low altitude P-40 was the only exception as I approached on his six. There wasn't an instance where I was chasing someone & trying to ping them with a more low-percentage firing solution due to distance, and thereby do damage and/or force them to maneuver, but I admit I do need to get used to those keystrokes such that when that situation arises I'm not blasting away with my main guns. I also need to work on shortening the length of my firing bursts when using cannon.
realy nice, i was waiting for some rb. subbed
nice flying as always. I have no idea how you survived that AAA as long as you did, and the tail gunner on the a-20. I've only ever flown the 109s in realistic. I'll have to try out the 190s. For a while the 190s were super buff in arcade but not so much anymore.
Can I recommend flying the cobras in arcade, as they are now seal clubbers once more. The P-39N at br 3.3 is a monster.
He was flying over the front line airfield, the AA there aren't as savage as those in the main airfield. Not that I would recommend stay near there for long. As for the A-20 tail gunner, he is indeed lucky to get out alive, or with a working engine.
Heh, note the state of my engine after I set the A-20 alight? I reckon I had a couple of minutes max before overheating. I probably should have RTBed to reload with cannon, but where's the fun in that?
long5hot Oh just a red module, it'll be fine (no, it won't)
And talking about engine, I awaits the day you upload a video of trying to survive with a dying/dead engine.
Really enjoyable, much less manic action, much more thinking.
In a year you'll be attempting full on sim mode and then your world will REALLY change :P
That was cool mate, I'll have to give RB a go. Great Video
Good show Long5hot!
Conserve cannon ammo by utilizing short bursts against fighters and configuring the keys for large and smaller caliber rounds. Use machine guns when limited on small ammo load on cannons on the fighters such as Fw190A1 and P38 variants. Don't be afraid to WEP even if the engine is getting close to red or if you're going for a Boom on an enemy aircraft. The wings of a Fw are strong enough to keep a sustained dive. Finally, along with using WEP more often, 30 minutes of fuel is a safe bet than 20 minutes of fuel. Long enough for average battles, enough for sustained engagements without having to land to early. Your fuel tank might get hit as well, so 20 minutes is really pushing one's luck.
shame he dosent upload much now he's such a good pilot
WOW. When I last checked several months back, you had a few hundred subs. Now on your way to 10K? Wow. Gimme your secret fam
I think you're confusing this channel with a different one, as its been over 8000 subs for most of this year, and my 5000 subs special video was back in August 2015.
Maybe I confused the sub count then. But I remember watching quite a few of your videos :))
I luv the fw 190
me and a friend played the FW190A1 and I was chasing an enemy fighter and also being perused by one do my friend decided to help
but I decided to roll out if the way but he missed the enemy and shot me!!!
I quit WT for a while, but I still log for the gifts at the login, the "trophies"
So I start flying FSX with payware airplanes.
No aerial gunfire but relaxing most of the time.
My advice for RB would be to find a plane you enjoy flying and just fly that a ton until you're comfortable in the mode.
I'll be watching closely. I'm also hating the 1.61 arcade battles. I was ready to quit WT, and have played some realistic battles, but RB sometimes seems daunting. There's nothing like spending 10 minutes climbing and immediately dying once fighting commences. That, and learning how to lead your flying target.
Just a general comment to no one in particular: If you're new to RB and want to learn it, IMO it's best to find an experienced RB pilot (that also plays the style you are looking for... bomber... fighter... BnZ'er or turn fighter) and fly with them for a while.
The other thing i'd suggest is to stick around the 2.0 - 3.3 RB battle rating. Also, pick a plane and stick with it for a while until you get the hang of it.
and how does one find an experienced RB pilot?
I would like to see you run the Ki 100 in RB. I'm having a blast with it! :)
It’s a monster plane is a fact.
I LOVE THIS PLANE! This was my first ace in RB
I'm glad you haven't totally disappeared. One question: how well do you find optimum climb rates from AB translates to the same in RB?
Good question - in short, they don't. RB surprised me a little in that I'd expect it would require faster indicated airspeeds than Arcade, but the opposite is the case. I listed some climbrates in this video - czcams.com/video/1Rak4hVGYXA/video.html - for BR 2.0 to 2.7, along with other flight comparisons, but I haven't done that for higher BRs yet.
Just like you I am getting a little bit burned out with the arcade and seriously thinking about flying more RB myself.
I have noticed that jet arcade battles are still pretty good as long as you have a
30mm guns or better.
I don't play WT anymore and have no intention to ever play it again, but I still enjoyed Longshot's videos and think it is a bummer that he apparently stopped making them.
I hope he is alright.
Hey Trangle, all good here. I haven't made videos for a while because I too have stopped playing WT, though I can't say I've given up hope of ever getting back into it.
long5hot
Good to hear (read). I was a bit worried there because in your last few videos, you sounded as if you had some more fun with the game again.
So when you stopped, I was afraid it might have external, serious reasons.
So getting more into RB didn't revitalize your enjoyment of the game?
(Last time I tried to get into it, I did it the other way around. Have always been a RB player and then I tried getting into Arcade and I had some initial success and fun, but then things went really sour, hehe.
The main reason for me to not play anymore is that I have a new job now and don't have enough free time anymore.
I had played "Armored Warfare" for a while, but don't have the time for that anymore either.)
Well, "real life" did get in the way, in the form of a few short-term jobs that kept me away from gaming of any sort from July through October. Got to keep that roof over my head, etc.
I did meet up with Jengar for another try at RB, his version of which was posted months ago on his channel. My experience though wasn't great. RB simply cannot be played casually, not when you're new to the mode. I realized that I'd need to devote significant time to RB if I was going to get any enjoyment out of it (and material worth showing in videos) and I just didn't have that kind of time available. I still don't.
And Arcade has been driven into the ground by the developers. That leaves me, and this channel, on the sidelines.
long5hot
I see.
I always did play RB casually, but I didn't care about the resulting horrible stats, hehe.
If I would have cared, I would have rage quit way earlier.
I just found RB less chaotic, more immersive and generally more interesting than Arcade, even in the better days of Arcade.
I don't know how the balancing has developed in the last years, but back in my day the biggest problem with RB was just that the "nation vs nation" gameplay aggravated the balancing problems.
Nobody liked playing against Russians, but because they were so OP and so popular among those who didn't care about balancing, everybody constantly had to play against Russians.
If it is worry about ruining your stats that keeps you from playing RB, I could offer you the use of my account. As I said, I don't use it anymore and you could use it to get comfortable with RB without damaging the stats on your main account and without the need to unlock everything again.
I'm far from having unlocked everything, especially since there has been a lot of new stuff since I stopped playing, but I think I was up to tier 4 in all nations (had tier 5 planes unlocked in the German tree) and had at least one or two well trained crews in every nation.
Also had a bunch of Premium planes, I think at least 1 in every nation.
If you are interested, tell me and I'll give the account to you.
long5hot
I understand.
Single "flavor of the month" planes never bothered me all that much, personally. I made the experience that those are often flown by careless or inexperienced pilots.
For example the last really good RB battle I had was during the time when the F2A with 50cals was new and was totally dominating low tier matches.
I was flying a Bf-110 and my whole team pretty much got killed by F2As before I even had the time to set up my first attack run. I was alone against 6 of them and I managed to win the match by doing careful hit and run attacks and picking them off one by one.
What really frustrated me was the dominance of Russian fighters in tier 3 back in my days (patch 1.3 to 1.4). It just happened every single time that my whole team died and I was alone too, but unlike in that low tier game against those F2As, I had no chance because those Yak-3s, Yak-9s and I-185 would just do things they shouldn't have been able to do.
I remember being alone against a team of Russians in a FW-190 A-5 and making a strafing run against 4 of them while they were reloading on the runway. 2 were still on the ground and 2 had just taken off. I killed one of those on the ground and tried to speed away, at full speed after making a diving attack from 3000 meters and it took only seconds till the two who just had taken off when I started the attack were actually gaining on me.
It was totally ridiculous, but stuff like that happened all the time back then.
And I'm not just whining from the loser's perspective. When I finally had enough and started grinding Russian planes myself, I too did stuff I shouldn't have been able to do in them.
For example I was in a Yak-3 and faked a headon against a P-47. The P-47 wisely kept flying straight after I evaded his fire, while I turned after him to chase him and when he only was 1.6 km away, I already started gaining on him and caught up to him.
There was no indication and no reason that something should have been wrong with his engine.
Granted, were were at very low altitude and Russians are supposed to do well there, but that was just ridiculous.
I felt really dirty after that kill and stopped playing Russians again.
My point being that pretty much for the duration of my time playing this game, pretty much all Russian tier 3 fighters were "flavor of the month" planes and stayed that for something like 24 months or so, hehe.
It doesn't really matter all that much whether the flight models were unrealistic or not or whether their guns were overperforming. The meta game in RB was skewed so heavily in their favor that that alone fucked up the balancing.
With that I mean Russians are good at mid to low altitudes and the game was set up so pretty much all the fighting happened at those altitudes. Also their "Jack Of All Trades" character was a huge advantage. They could outturn everybody who was faster than them (Americans and Germans) and outrun everybody who was more maneuverable than them (Japanese and some British fighters).
Also I noticed back then (and I took the time to make notes and not just rely on subjective perception) that the weather tended to favor the Russians too.
On those maps where Russians would meet Germans and Americans and usually be attacked from above, you pretty much always had clouds for the Russians to hide below and on those maps where Russians would meet the Japanese and the Russians would be the ones who do the attacking from above, the weather was almost always clear and without clouds.
That is what I meant when I said that the nation vs nation gameplay was aggravating problems with the balancing.
Single "flavor of the month" planes aren't really that much of a problem in RB, I'd say.
Quick thanks again cobber
Wow, I need to fly that A-1 more often.
Any chance you'll be doing any RB jets long5hot? You and Jengar should get together =D
Give a try to the fw190 A5 longshot, it's really nice to handle; And check your convergence, 300m it's way to close! ;)
For the A4/A5 etc I agree, a longer convergence would be preferable. The A-1 just has the two wing-mounted cannons though with limited ammo, which lends itself to close-range shots hence the choice of 300m.
.50s and even the 7.7mms are actually fairly ok vs bombers as long as you're accurate with them and a fat and slow bomber makes that easy. I've even take .50s over a couple 20mms for that job a lot of the time.
I never play arcade anymore. As for RB the big thing to remember is: KNOW YOUR PLANE!!!!!! I cannot emprise that enough. Watch videos. memorise the planes pros and cons. Stay within the planes limits. This is something you rarely see in the class of pilots today.
Michael R. Foreman, in the beginning yeah, but using the entire spectrum of tactics available (even if your plane is "bad" at it) can be very beneficial. The best example of this is the fw 190A1 outstanding dogfighting abilities, or that feeling of invincibility you get when boom and zooming low energy american planes with a zero! ;)
+lon5hot nice flying like always :)
I'm a new comer to RB myself and honestly you got real lucky that the AAA didn't get you. I've got sniped by the AAA like 1.5+ km away so many times.
Welcome back, awaiting for more content.
It's the trucks on Korea that will get ya... :)
Hey I liked your Ki-102 video in 1.41. Can you review the Ki-102 again? After the rebalance its stats got really good.
Hi Longshot, can you please make a video reviewing Japanese Fighter Ki-87? :D
I had one, but it seems difficult to get a kill using it. thanks!
How to play RB no matter what plane you're in: Maintain speed superiority, No matter the altitude. Just be faster. Survive-ability is key to landing additional shots on target. The secret to that is...dun dun dunnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn. Superior speed.
Really glad to know you took the RB as an option, one tip though take it slow. Don't try to fly all the planes at once, pick a few which suit your play style..I preferred energy fighting so I picked up the LA5s...later switched 2 BNZ using the 190A4.
BTW the A1 aint the 'Butcher Bird', the A4 & A5s are.
Also here is a youtuber VanSinn who has similar commentary styles to you...bit.ly/2b3lsAM. His videos have helped me learn quite some RB stuff.
And finally may be useful (or may be not) my tips/tricks for RB BNZ (forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/291674-dealing-with-much-lower-enemies/#comment-5679129).
May be this as well: forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/320848-ta-152-h-video-tips-needed-please/#comment-6298730
I'm a very new player so I might be wrong, but would it have been a safer choice to simply return to base and rearm after you shot down that P-40 near the end? I'd imagine even if the A-20 had landed, your 190 could still climb faster than it and you would have had a better chance of shooting him down with cannon shells.
Theoretically it could have been safer (though not as much fun), but there's no guarantees my 20mm would have damaged him. Also he could have flown at low altitude, where he'd be difficult to spot, strafing ground targets & getting ahead on the tickets. I've seen more than one RB game end that way.
Air RB is the best mode in my opinion
Holy shit thats a lot of fuel you brought in dude
Yeah way too much :)
I really only have one criticism of your play style. I don't try to hit multiple targets in a BnZ run. I dive hit my target and climb immediately. I find you bleed too much energy trying to turn onto the next target. If I ever hit another target its if there's another plane right there. Otherwise I conserve energy and get back up to altitude. As far as the Bf 109s go. Try the F4 it's my current favorite. You really don't have to worry about convergence cause the cannon is in the nose. I roll with air belts. They tend to rip wings easily. But in general just be patient. The first people to die in RB are generally the first to dive. I try to account for as many planes as possible before I start attacking. I had too many time where I was zoom climbing and a P-51 I hadn't accounted for swoops in and gets me.
🍹Here's to the memories, and good health to everyone. - Safe Sky's
You too Reezy!
@@long5hot Thank you sir, good to hear from you after all these years glad you're ok. All the best in your future endeavors my brother. Till next time...tc
You couldn't have flown out with a better guy then Jengar!Now, having watched to minute 9 so far, "Of course you return to base, and repair and reload. What are you going to do spit at them? It was only logical you return to base so you can become 100%.
Good video, Just ran across your channel! ^_^ (I just started plane overviews/tutorials myself recently.)
Good flying as always. Please...never apologize for saying what needed to be said. We all need to get that "What the hell are they doing at Gaijin!!!!" off our collective chests. It's all good. Are you going to check out the boats? Seems like fish in the barrel on any map. Yes, pun intended. Later
Somehow managed to headon this in a spitfire and win but not evade his corpse because i had a red engine
Good Gameplay
11 Später laichen Trucks von Karte Ruhr. 3500 Runden 7,92mm für viel Tickets gogo zerstören ^^.
Jengar and long5hot its a RIP 🙏
Sad thing about the 109's roll rate at high speed is that it should be so much worse than it is IG. D:
I'm not qualified to comment on that one, I only play what the game gives me. One thing I do know though is that when the 190 As were introduced they wiped the floor with Spit Mk IIs and Vs, prompting a fast-tracking of the Mk IX. Without their roll rate, I don't see any way that could be replicated in WT, as the Spits would be better in nearly every respect.
+long5hot 190A1 is rolling alright I think. 109 is not. The 190 also has superior speed, dive and zoom characteristics over a Spitfire IX. :)
Ah I misread your first comment, seeing 190 where you typed 109. I think I need new glasses ...
Yeah the 109 Es are strange in RB. They roll quite well when flying in a straight line, but try to roll midway through any kind of maneuver and they sometimes seem to get stuck. I'm sure I could get used to working around it, but it really does feel odd to me. The Friedrichs didn't seem to have this problem last time I flew them.
I think RB is the more 'skill based' game mode apart from sim obviously. RB just has that mentality of if you make a mistake you'll pay for it and therefore teaches you to always try to force your opponent to make the first mistake and capitalise on it.
(Completely irrelevant but I would be interested to squad with you once or twice in RB if you were ever feeling lonely haha)
Sure, if you see me online please say hello - I'm always looking for RB wingmen, and given the odd & sporadic times that I play its not easy for me to arrange things in advance.
+long5hot Alright I'll say hi if you're on. In game name is 'Quaterpounder' for reference.
hi, i am a new player to war thunder and I would like to get better.
I saw many of your videos and I found out you do more aviation than army.
Would it be still all right if I send my Tank RB videos for you to tell my how I am doing?
Unfortunately I can't help with tanks at all, as I've never flown one. Not even once.
hey i find my mouse to sensitive but on options it says mouse aim are both 25% should i lower it ?? thanks
nice game :)
i wanted to ask i want to unlock the mig but i have researched in bf 109 tree, do i need to reserached the fw 109 tree to get the mig?
Ok, I have an idea for another RB video. Control setup, Mouse and Keyboard or Jolly. What you use and why. I having been giving RB a go, and rudder turns are just flipping me around and a climbing spiral is impossible so far with Mouse and Keyboard. Any help re: this would be good. Cheers. Anthony
Take the plane into a test flight first. Some planes can still respond ok to rudder in RB, but others will indeed flip over on you. But unlike AB, rudder bleeds speed quickly in RB (as it should) so its use should be strictly limited anyway.
Thanks for the tip, appreciate it. The beast in question was the Mustang Mk1, so pretty I can't not fly it.
I think you should earn way more subs
I used to fly RB every night with my squad of 3, but after a certain BR rating you get the same 3-4 maps which feels like as if they were 1-2 sometimes. Also, as someone mentioned below the silver and xp is just not worth your time... Often you climb 10-15 minutes (looking at you, stock FW A-8) only to be shot down by vastly superior climbers. Don't think I need to mention that without premium you get less than a 100 XP on those occasions and you have nothing left but to feel cheated.
Yep, every word you say is true. Its a pity about the maps, though I believe that would be one of the easier aspects of RB for Gaijin to improve. The gameplay though, can be extremely brutal if you're not flying one of the FOTM planes and/or you're just going through a bad run of luck - and yes from a rewards perspective you can gain absolutely nothing (and go backwards in SL) after a couple of hours of flying.
Indeed, I'm still waiting on new maps to be added, yet unfortunately all I see is the ground forces improved, maps included. Hence the reason why I haven't touched WT for months now, which is a real shame, hate to see such a good game going to waste.
Is Enduring Battle still just a work in progress or have they finally implement it in RB?
The moment it's an official game mode I'm going back to WT.
Enduring Conflict was available for a few weekends in a row for RB, not sure if its still happening, but I was unable to get a game in it as I can rarely play on weekends. Its not an official mode for RB yet, and I agree their progress with it has been positively glacial. I expect it'll get worse now they're introducing the hyped-up "river boat" mode.
Oh well, that both both sounds interesting and disappointing, let's just hope eventually Gaijin will take care of their game and take it in the right direction again. :]
I prefer stealth because you opponent can see what your firing and can avoid it.
Try to never get dragged into the AAA of the enemy main base... there are enough videos out there how the last enemy camps there and let's AAA take out up to 7 players trying to attack him.
Then again you can use this yourself if you are at a complete numerical disadvantage. Once it is two vs. five or so you're usually out of luck, esp. in the higher tier games.
Best regards,
Phil
When you release the "C" View button. Does your screen goes automatically to your aim? How do I configure that on controls? Thanks!
What's the reason of taking 45 min fuel? The more you weight, the worse you climb and flight
Well, it wasn't a plane I expected to win a battle of altitude in anyway, and sometimes taking more fuel can let you engage planes retreating to the airfield, or when they try to take off again. That was the idea anyway - just me being an RB n00b really.
great job, glad to see you in rb ! are you goin to continue in rb? pls let me know i will subscribe i dont care one whit what happens in arcade lol. anyway great game :)
Yep absolutely, I'll be focusing on RB from now on.
hope to see more rb battles from you. You are very informative but a lot of your AB stuff dident translate super well for RB battles
Hi mate have you tried sim and if you want a second wing I play a bit
Awww you should have flown the a4. :(
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Try flying realistic with an entirely new plane (or one that you don't remember how it flys). You will not have any expectations of its performance in AB and taking it out in RB will be much easier (at least this helped me).
Heh, you know me - I'd be more likely to spend half an hour in flight tests before daring a live battle ;) With the 190 I had a clear idea of what to expect handling-wise, I just need to watch my energy more closely before performing certain maneuvers.
+long5hot The e-4 is a great plane, but the bf-110 is amazing! My current favorite plans to fly in RB is the p-47. This is a squad only plane to be consistently effective.