The BIGGEST BROADCASTING CONTROVERSY in Iron Bowl HISTORY
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- At the 1994 Iron Bowl between the Alabama Crimson Tide and the Auburn Tigers, you had two teams who were undefeated and fighting for a shot at the national championship. However, despite all of this, for some reason, ABC decided not to nationally televise the game to the entire country. This is the story behind the controversial broadcasting decision at the Iron Bowl
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Me before 9:45: In fairness to ABC, Auburn was on probation and not eligible for a bowl game.
Me after 9:45: Wait, ABC could have showed both games, but didn’t? I’m sorry, WHAT?!
ABC in 1966: “We can’t show the battle of undefeated teams in the last game of the season between Notre Dame and Michigan State because we used up our allotment of televised games with these two teams.”
ABC in 1994: No restrictions, no excuses.
Ohio state was on probation in 2012 and was Inelgible for bowl games yet the Ohio state Michigan game was shown nationally
@@kennethheady Ethics took a huge nosedive between 94 and 2012. I don't have a dog in this fight btw. Today? The networks would show puppies being slaughtered if it got them a 30 share. OK, maybe not the big 3 networks.
I remember this, in fairness, looking back, ABC made the right call. 1. If Auburn had won, then the game is just for bragging rights and knocking bama out of a chance at the title. 2. Auburn could not play for anything therefore making Alabama the only means of importance for watching the game due to the title chances they had and in losing reduces the point of the 3 or 4 hours spent watching, had they both been in title contention, then yeah this is the game you put on. 3. In the end it mattered not anyway, being that bama didn't play for the title. Besides if you lived in the 2 opposing states which game do you want to see since ABC is in the Ohio/Michigan market? Florida upended Alabama the following week anyway so not seeing this was of no loss, it only delayed bama fans disappointment of not seeing Alabama play for the national championship for a week.
Imagine being a College Football Fan back then at the time. That would be wild. I would be searching for any data. Bama also won 21-14
Also it's not even like you could at least Google the score of the game or anything. You would be totally screwed
Oh, halftime was a must-watch instead of a chance to take a dump or run to the store. That said, the major channels were pretty good at providing score updates during the game.
Worse was growing up in the 1980s when most of the games were not even on tv. Had to sit by the radio to listen to the games or watch the game tv was showing and hope for updates.
The irony of Ohio state beat bama in the citrus bowl 😂
@@garygrassler09 Ohio St. is 1-4 against Bama and obviously that only win was 2014. Alabama beat Ohio St. 24-17 in the Citrus Bowl.
I live in Atlanta. This 1994 game Auburn vs Alabama was televised in the ATL. I remember watching that game. But, I didn't know the Nation wasn't able to watch it.
ABC had other games televised at the same time. THe upper Midwest got the big ten game for example. He fails to mention this.
The 1993 Iron Bowl was played @ Auburn, but because Auburn was on probation; they couldn’t be on tv. So 85,000 watched there & 47,421 (I was one of the attendees) bought tickets to watch a closed Circuit telecast in Bryant Denny Stadium in Tuscaloosa.
Wasn’t that one of the first actually played in Auburn instead of two Home games for Alabama?
@@tigercraft489 yes it was. Good ‘ole Legion Field.
Texas A&M, who was not yet with Alabama and Auburn in the SEC, was similarly kept off TV in 1994 despite going undefeated with one tie.
This forced the annual game with Texas to be played on a Saturday afternoon in early November instead of the traditional Thanksgiving night slot. Texas played Baylor on Thanksgiving instead, nationally televised on ABC in the morning
Soon after, the NCAA stopped issuing TV bans to CFB teams who broke the rules, finally realizing this hurt their opponents as much as it hurt the teams serving bans.
As a matter of fact, SWC schools often served TV bans in addition to postseason bans in their last years of existence as the conference began to be plagued by scandals more often. These factors were major contributors to the SWC's demise, along with the fact that after 1992 there were no teams from outside Texas in the conference.
When the SWC dissolved, the four smaller market schools - Baylor, Texas, Texas A&M and Texas Tech - joined the Big 12 (nee Big Eight), Baylor being included because of politics. Houston joined the newly-formed Conference USA, and the three private schools in major markets - Rice, SMU, and TCU - joined the WAC.
Many of the schools that were in the SWC at its dissolution would make further conference changes. In 2001, TCU moved to C-USA, then to the MWC 4 years later. At the same time, Rice and SMU left the WAC for C-USA. In 2012, Texas A&M joined the SEC, and TCU replaced them in the Big 12, becoming the first major market SWC school to join a power conference since its dissolution (TCU's Fort Worth campus is in the same metro area as Big 12 headquarters in Irving). Houston will join the Big 12 in 2023 and will be replaced by Rice in the American, 2 years before Texas joins the SEC (alongside Oklahoma).
The Big 12 will operate as a 14-team league for 2 years, I could see them pursing more expansion in 2025. The schools I'd like to see join are Boise State, Memphis, SMU, South Florida, Temple, and Tulane. SMU joining the Big 12 (and in the process becoming the closest Big 12 school to conference HQ) would leave Rice as the only former SWC school that hasn't joined a Power 5 league.
Nowadays this will never happen with 15 billion TV channels, websites, and Streaming platforms airing every single game.
Now a days somone CBS would. Air it on CBSSN
ABC it get moved to either ESPN espn2 espnews or ESPNU
Fox just move it to Fs1 FS2 or fox business
And NBC would just kick it to USA network or CNBC
One thing that deserves mention. In the South then, at 12noon ET/11am CT, Jefferson-Pilot & Raycom aired live SEC & ACC football in syndication on a variety of network stations, many of which were ABC affiliates. It made it very difficult for "network doubleheaders," because the JP & Raycom games had priority. Often times, ABC would scramble to find alternate clearances on UPN, WB or independent stations in some Southern markets for their noon/11am telecasts.
Here in central Illinois they had Big 10 football and basketball on a syndicated CBS affiliate at 11am CT before the Big 10 Network
It was a different time. Regionally televised games, ESPN Gameplan, and the SEC being treated like a minor conference.
The fallout from this was the main reason why the Iron Bowl permanently moved to CBS beginning in 1995. However since CBS is losing the SEC after next season, the Iron Bowl will return to ABC as part of ESPN's exclusive deal with the SEC.
1996*, and CBS didn't show it every year. It couldn't be broadcast on ABC, but there were years where it was shown on ESPN.
@@pronkb000 it wouldn't be until 2001 that CBS had only the SEC, the five years before that they also had the Big East
Wow--How did that game not get televised everywhere? Unreal. Excellent video. You did an amazing job reporting on it
Ought to try keeping up w/SEC Football while serving overseas. Europe you’d be six to seven hours ahead, Middle East eight hours ahead, & Far East in Korea or Japan 13 to 14 hours ahead.
Because ABC had other games airing at the same time. Of course he fails to mention this and those things were scheduled long before the stakes of the Iron Bowl were known.
The game was televised, just not nationally. ABC showed it in a regional window along with Oregon-Oregon State, USC-UCLA, and Illinois-Wisconsin.
Yes...my thoughts exactly. And the practice of airing most games regionally was something that was pretty common back then. I remember when ABC (and other networks as well) would release a coverage map during game week, and you'd have to cross your fingers and hope that your favorite team's game would be televised in whatever region you were going to be in on game day. For example, back in the '90s I lived 500 miles from where my favorite team was located, and had to hope that I would be in the region where the game would be televised.
Loving your college football videos. Keep up the good work!
It would’ve made more sense to just spike the ball every play.
Facts
Ah, the days when Auburn and Alabama didn’t play cupcakes the week before the Iron Bowl.
Big 10 teams play cupcakes every game
@@matthewdaley746 michigan is a pretender they built their reputation back before ww2
Don't be so hard on ABC. Everyone got to see one of John Cooper's two wins vs. Michigan!
Not saying I agree with their decision, but it sounds to me that ABC’s thinking was yeah both Alabama and Auburn are undefeated, but Auburn is on probation and can’t compete for a national title, which only dampers the magnitude of this rivalry game and they tied once. Plus, the only question regarding Auburn was can they end Alabama’s dream of a national title? If Auburn wasn’t on probation, I’m assuming that game gets broadcast.
So Alabama doesn't matter? Not to mention the rivalry. Dumb.
My thoughts exactly, as the game the year before wasn't broadcast nationally because of Auburn's probation
If I remember there was no formal tv bans but there was a gentleman's agreement about not showing teams on probation nationally
Plus the big ten was their priority for decades
Not all CFB programs that were placed on probation throughout the years also served postseason bans. Probation and postseason bans are separate punishments handed out by the NCAA, but they can be handed out in tandem. Teams who get put on probation for lesser violations usually still get to compete in bowl games if they qualify.
If CBS had had its SEC package then as it does now, there's no that game would not have been shown, and the whole nation would have enjoyed a real nail biter.
And maybe even in prime-time!
There may be another reason why ABC wasn't all that gung-ho about showing the Iron Bowl nationally: CBS and the Big East had announced their new TV deals with CBS (effective for the 1996 season) in February of '94. This would actually be the final Iron Bowl broadcast by ABC (until 2024, at least), as the '95 game (with both teams good but Auburn out of the SEC East race and 'bama now being the ones on probation) was shown on ESPN. It's possible ABC decided, without saying so publicly, "Well, we may as well focus on the schools that will be sticking around long-term."
Why did Mandel and ABC feel like they HAD to choose between the two games?
Power play. They were putting the SEC "in its place" with this decision. You can tell just by what Mandel said.
The SEC, as it usually does, got the last laugh.
@@johncate9541 So you’re saying they didn’t HAVE to choose, they WANTED to choose.
college football fan (UGA) that really enjoys your content.
I watch this game in 94, but I didn't know it wasn't national. Auburn was probation. Probably why
Usually, a team on probation doesn't get TV time. It's kinda interesting Auburn was able to be seen, unless their probation was pretty light.
@@nicoleknight9412 Auburn had the bowl ban in 1993 and 1994, but the TV ban only in 1993.
That was way back when we still had to “host” the Iron Bowl in Birmingham. Thank God we got to move our home games in the series to Tuscaloosa a few years later
Am I mistaken or correct that the 1971 Iron Bowl between undefeated Alabama and undefeated Auburn was only regionally televised? I think most of the nation got Army-Navy.
I love how part of the reasoning is "Hey SEC fans. Stop assuming that your rivalry games are as important to the rest of the country as they are to you." Then they make a decision to show a good but largely meaningless match-up based largely on the fact that the national sports media which typically has an overrepresentation of people from midwest/east cost schools believe that everyone across the country is always chomping at the bit to watch Ohio State-Michigan regardless if their records.
As for that NFL analogy. Bears vs Packers would have been on FOX and Steelers vs Ravens would have been on CBS.
Did ABC ask Ohio State to reschedule to Thanksgiving Day?
Great video as always. When I learned the game time of the Padres Braves game I knew something smelled. I compared it to a game I went to in 1994 Tigers/Brewers just before the strike. The tigers won 4-0 and the game time was 2:20. This was bc the ump called everything a strike. Kirk Gibson was at first mad but realized what was going on. This led to players to swing at everything. There weren’t a lot of strike outs and fewer walks but 210 pitches which sped up the game. Lots of ground balls. The Braves and Padres had 249 pitches total with 9 walks and 7 Strike outs. This may seem normal but an average MLB game has 290 pitches and there were way more pitching changes back then. It is pretty clear the home plate umpire Harvey was incentivized to speed up the game. The fact it was just over 2 hours with 10 runs scored is a statistical absurdity. Where there is smoke there is fire…. However, considering how pointless the 1/162 was compared to the big football game …. I totally get it. I don’t think the 10,000 fans in SD cared the padres game was a rush job.
The fourth Saturday of November?
Wasn't Auburn still on probation in 1994? I know they were on a bowl and TV ban the previous year when they went undefeated.
Yes, but there was no TV ban anymore in 1994 like there was in 1993
I know I’ve commented this already but please do 2004!
Oh I agree. LSU won a NC the year before and then the SEC went on a dominant run starting in ‘06 where they would’ve never left an undefeated SEC team outta the NC game….. only auburn! 🤣
It appears that ABC already had a Big Ten game (Illinois/Wisconsin in this case) in its regional 3:30 p.m. EST window. I guess that could be why Michigan/Ohio State was slated for a noon EST kickoff. Also in that 3:30 p.m. EST timeslot were 2 games from the then-Pac-10 (Oregon/Oregon State and USC/UCLA). I hope that the Iron Bowl got the whole East Coast.
Michigan-OSU is almost always a noon kickoff (sometimes 1 pm in the '70s and '80s). The only 3:30 game that I can recall was 1 vs. 2 in 2006, and that was not without some pushback from locals and alums. I don't see that game ever being played at night.
@@pronkb000 It should be played at night though; the fact that it wasn't in 2006 was a huge insult to the game given how important it was to the national title race.
I bet ABC regrets not being more aggressive in getting the game played at night.
In the last 11 years UM-OSU was on ABC, it never aired on Saturday Night Football; and there were times where the ABC night game that day was not nearly as attractive as UM-OSU.
Daytime football is overrated, the night is where it's at.
Besides, we see UM and OSU play each other at night in other sports (like basketball).
@@LogoAttitude It's almost always the most-watched regular season game of the year in its noon timeslot. It doesn't need to go anywhere. Big Ten football was made for fall afternoons. Prime time is overrated.
@@pronkb000 If primetime is so overrated, how come NBC Sunday Night Football has been the #1 show in the country for years?
@@LogoAttitude Because the NFL and college are different. NBC gets one of the top games as their one and only game every week, and has the power to flex out bad games. College broadcasting is a mishmash of competing networks and conferences all trying to stake out a claim, whereas NFL TV contracts are more uniform even if they're across different networks. You don't have FOX and CBS directly competing with each other. Also, staying in to watch TV is an easier sell on Sunday night than Saturday night.
Who's The Boss would've been more fun to watch
To be clear, Auburn was not playing for a national title. Had they beaten Alabama, they still wouldn't have gotten any 1st place votes since Nebraska and Penn State both finished 11-0 and won their bowl games. It's also unlikely that an undefeated Alabama would have gotten more votes in either the AP or Coach's Polls over Nebraska, which was regarded as the best team in the country by a mile.
Nebraska and Penn State now compete together in the Big Ten. The fact that neither Penn State in 1994 nor Michigan in 1997 could play Nebraska for the national title helped lead to the creation of the BCS.
At least Alabama beat Ohio State in the Citrus Bowl that year.
My last post was a combination of humorous and strident. Having just thought about this some more I’ve got a more nuanced take.
1. At that point in the season ABC had two time slots in which to show games, Noon and 3:30 ET.
2. Michigan-Ohio State has traditionally been in that Noon time slot.
3. As you said in this video ABC did well with the regional concept, and this was the perfect week to execute the concept.
HST, ABC had poor contingency planning if their only alternative was to move the game to Thanksgiving.
Iron Bowl > Michigan vs Ohio State all day every day…
A year later on the Saturday after Thanksgiving ABC only aired a noon regional game with some of the country getting Ohio State at Michigan and some getting Florida State at Florida, then televised golf at 3:30. I'm sure there were a lot of disappointed people on both sides.
Oh, yeah. I remember that one. Since, I lived in Atlanta at the time. And, still do. We got Florida State vs Florida game.
I think I remember that. I think that’s when ABC was starting up something like a Pay Per View for College Football.
@@CTubeMan they were also working with NBC on the horrible Baseball Network concept at the same time. This basically regionallized nationally televised MLB games & screwed over baseball fans big time especially during the postseason.
@@chrisguardiano6143 That was when both the ALCS and NLCS were play at the same time on the same network. You only got to watch one of the games, and if your game ended first, they didn't switch you to the other game.
if I were in charge I would have put one of the games in primetime. At that point, the battle of Florida had multiple primetime meetings in the past, while UM-OSU still had yet to be in primetime. Therefore, I would have put the UM-OSU game at night.
Alabama was trying to maintain its unfair advantage over Florida, which had to play in Tallahassee the week before the SEC championship. It wasn't until 1997 that Florida was able to get FSU to move the rivalry to the Saturday before Thanksgiving, but it went back to after Thanksgiving in 2002 and has stayed there (except 2004). The Iron Bowl continued to be played the week before Thanksgiving through 2007, giving Alabama and Auburn an extra week.
South Carolina-Clemson was the Saturday before Thanksgiving through 2007, but the Gamecocks didn't win the East until 2010, so it was moot.
Alabama had the rest advantage in 1993, '94 and '96, although the Tide lost each time to Florida. Auburn had it in 1997 and 2004, but it only worked in the latter (played Tennessee in each instance). In 2000, Auburn and Florida each had an open date before the championship. In 1995, Arkansas had extra rest Florida didn't have (Gators 34, Hogs 3).
In 2008, the SEC put in a rule that everyone had to play the week before the championship.
Yes but if Alabama or Auburn failed to win the SEC West then they wasted a bye week. It wasn't just an advantage, it was a gamble, and it often didn't work out. In part because bye weeks don't always help a team perform better. In fact it can take them out of sync.
Personally I've wanted the iron bowl to go to Black Friday permanently. But nowadays TV execs set the schedule
Cry more
I remember when I started watching college football as a Bama fan (‘05) I couldn’t stand Florida. Now mehh.
Was it that late that the SEC conference schedule became mandated until Saturday after Thanksgiving? I don't remember teams playing their final game the week before Thanksgiving very often in the South. The Big Ten only started doing that in the early 2010s, I want to say.
today, almost all CFB programs in a conference play on Thanksgiving week, heavily decreasing, if not eliminating, the chances that a participant in a conference championship game will have that week off
I've been watching college football for years.Growing up in the northeast,The Iron Bowl has been a big thing.
Being born in Mobile Alabama, I had no idea.
It happen last year in LA. CBS had the Cowboys & Patriots as the Game of The Week and instead they aired the Raiders and the last place Broncos
I remember ABC having the regional games at 3:30 Eastern back in the day and forgot that they didn't air the Iron Bowl nationally. Sucks for the rest of the nation, because they miss a good hard hitting game that thankfully Bama held on to win. BTW what did Auburn and William Shatner have in common in 1994? 9-1-1. I couldn't resist posting that old joke.
@@matthewdaley746 That Sugar Bowl would've likely been a moot if Arizona State, who were 11-0, had held on to win the Rose Bowl. However knowing how the pollsters are, there is a good chance that one of the polls would've screwed the Sun Devils.
It took me a moment, but I got it . For those who totally didn't get it, Shatner hosted a documentary show on CBS, called "Rescue 9-1-1" in 1994.
That…was…funny.
I mean Ohio State and Michigan are two of the biggest viewing draws in the country. Auburn and Alabama are two of the biggest viewing draws in the South. True then, true now. Follow the money.
All you have to do is look at the ratings
I remember when this happened my dad was so mad
So, if the Iron Bowl was broadcast regionally at Noon ET, and Michigan-Ohio St. was a national game at 3:30, what other games did ABC air at Noon?
Ohio State vs Michigan was at Noon. Bama vs Auburn was at 3:30. The other regional games were Illinois vs Wisconsin, Oregon vs Oregon State, and USC vs UCLA
I also missed the Colorado.Michigan hail mary game for Washington/Miami because I was in a Big East market. And the Florida/Auburn shootout. But weren't these games available on Pay Per View? I know at some point in the 90's they were.
I think the reason why this wasn’t televised was because Auburn was on a Bowl Ban, and Alabama still had to win the SEC title game to have a chance at a Natty
So ohio state and Michigan were irrelevant like always
@@elvangulley3210 Yeah
The Iron Bowl should’ve been televised, but if there’s any reason why it wasn’t, it’s cuz Pat Dye was a fucking hack who cost them a Natty
IT was televised, just not nationally. The reason it was not televised nationally because they had other games being televised regionally at the same time.
@@chriskay1449 Nah they could’ve done OSU-Michigan and then Bama-Auburn as a doubleheader but decided not to nationally
@@sawyertuide7636 Wrong. As I said before, they had game scheduled in the same time slot with other conferences and these were made before hand. Do you want to piss off 4 schools and their respective conferences by pulling the games they agreed to air? Get a clue here.
before espn was around there was only 1 college football shown each week. you never knew which game it was going to be . i wonder if this had happened in the past
Have you ever done a video on Texas vs.Arkansas 1969?
Are you filtering to combat copyright?
Seems like he was, given he had to put up a disclaimer because of it.
This would not fly at all today! lol
No disrespect to the others. But, the Iron Bowl is the biggest rivalry in college football period. Possibly the biggest rivalry game in all of sports.
Imagine not even knowing this happened and to not even care because it's the SEC....oh wait, that's me.
Oregon going to get rekt by an SEC team next Saturday
I thought being on probation at the time limited or banned nationally televised games.
Are we sure that ABC's Big Ten contract (seperate from the CFA/SEC deal they had at the time) didn't mandate that the Ohio State/Michigan game be on national television? There were some average OSU matchups (from a rankings perspective) in the late '80s and early '90s. Yet from when ABC got the Big Ten deal in 1987, every Ohio State/Michigan game went to a national audience. I'm guessing it was in the deal.
Similar to what MLB on FOX did in 2004 while 95% were watching the Yankees and Red Sox which was the ARod/Varitek wrestling match for some reason Los Angeles ended up with the Giants/Cardinals
Of course the Iron Bowl is going to nationally televised every year, the SEC is, now, on CBS.
Judgment call my foot. I'm from the Northeast but I think at any level many of our southern folks would love to devote their time on football more than anything else.
At least now the iron bowl is shown after the Big Game.
28 Years Ago
It definitely was televised in Alabama lol. I was 8 years old watching it at home which was rare for an iron bowl. 9/10 years I would always be at my dad's over Iron Bowl weekend. Saved by less than a yard
I remember that yeah back then they only had regional broadcasting if you want to watch a game Outside of your region they had Pay per view so it was the networks way of scamming people to force you to get pay per view I live here in Chicago area they had a game between unranked Notre Dame and unranked Stanford and that was the game they forced us to watch over over undefeated Ohio state playing underfeated Iowa in the heart of big 10 country and it was a big controversy at the time so the only way we were able to watch that game was we had to buy pay per view so it wasn't just against Alabama Auburn it was all over the country that the networks were doing this
Chicago is pretty much Notre Dame territory, they are more popular than Northwestern who is based in the suburb of Evanston.
I didn't think Auburn games would be allowed to be aired on TV because of their probation. I know they weren't allowed during their 1993 season. They rules around probation gets tricky because of tv contracts with the teams not on probation.
This game deserved to be shown nationally. I don't care if Auburn was on probation, it's still the truth.
Alabama and Auburn are in the SEC. Wouldn’t that game have been on CBS?
The SEC was on CBS from 1987-90 as part of the CFA (sharing space with basically all the non-Big Ten/Pac-10 teams and conferences). Then from 1991-95 ABC got CFA rights in addition to its Big Ten and Pac-10 packages and had a monopoly on all OTA college football (except for Notre Dame and some of the bowl games). The SEC and Big East broke away from the CFA to sign with CBS in 1996.
6 at 3 isn’t that weird
They should have just shown Heidi instead!
9-0-1 is not 10 and 0 😩😩😩
Next year CBS will broadcast both Big 10 and SEC games
With West Virginia/Penn State (9/2) and UNLV/Michigan (9/9) probably leading off before the final SEC campaign
@@mgb4692 Hoping also Iowa vs Nebraska in November of 2023 and 2024 Alabama vs Wisconsin at Geen Bay if it happens
The game is absolutely not bigger than the iron bowl. The iron bowl has had more games with national championship implications and it’s a more heated rivalry
The game is the biggest game in college football
@@jupitervideos7702 the reply of a true college football casual
Well in 2022 6-11 might win you the NFC Least.
Thank goodness Fox has Big 10 right so this can hopefully never happen again.
Only ABC would do regional coverage these days, but only in a reverse mirror format and even then, ABC rarely does it.
I don't think ABC/ESPN have done a reverse mirror in several years. The last Big Ten contract prohibited it for B1G games which basically rendered it meaningless. Plus ABC had less inventory with half of the Big Ten going to FOX so there wasn't even as much need for it.
@@pronkb000 The last few times I remember ABC/ESPN doing reverse mirrors was when they had American-controlled games.
Freaking Florida beat us by a point. Missed a chance at a possible NC cause a point. Was this the year Nebraska and Florida played in the Fiesta?
No. This was the year both PSU and Neb went undefeated and the gave Neb the title despite playing one of the weakest schedules ever.
Roll Tide
Bama vs Auburn is nowhere close to Ohio State vs Michigan’s hatred and bloodshed. Texas A&M vs Bama is the real Iron Bowl these days 😂.
A&M-Bama is in its infancy in the rivalry. But it will never be Auburn-Alabama.
You would be incorrect. Bama auburn is pure hate 24/7 365. It is as big or bigger than OSU UM.
The Iron Bowl has been played at night, but UM-OSU has not. I want that to change in 2023.
Alabama would lose against Steve Spurrier's Florida Gators and Heisman winner Danny Wuerfful's pass to Chris Doering to win the SEC, and ruin Bama's chance at a national championship. But Bama did beat that Ohio St team in this seasons Citrus Bowl 21-14, the same score they beat Auburn by in this game. I remember Gene Stallings, in that Citrus Bowl vs Ohio St, and him getting pissed because a dog was loose on the field and no one was trying to get the dog off the field. So Stallings said "Watch this!" Lol.
OSU's first non-vacated bowl win over an SEC team came 20 years later against the same school, and it was a huge one.
It was the first Sugar Bowl to serve as a College Football Playoff semifinal. Because Oregon beat Florida State in the Rose Bowl earlier in the day, this meant that for the first time in the then-23-season history of national championship games, neither participant was from the Southern United States, the region that has dominated top-level college football since the 1950s.
2014 has proven to be an outlier. Every subsequent CFP title game was won by a Southern school, with Alabama, Clemson, Georgia, and LSU claiming at least one title in this span, and Clemson being the only one of the four not in the SEC (they are in the ACC).
#HeartOfDixieYalHyukHyukHyuk!
Alabama-Auburn is a bigger rivalry than OSU-Michigan.
It’s all a matter of perception. I’ve lived in two states in my life, Alabama and Georgia, and can say that, down here, the Iron Bowl is eons more important than Ohio State-Michigan. I’m sure to people up there, though, OSU-UM is eons ahead of the Iron Bowl.
Maybe in basketball. In football, there in no rivalry better than OSU v. TTUN
I have to push back on this video. Auburn was on probation. They tied their game the prior week. ABC had the SEC back then and they often did regional games at 330pm. Nebraska was undefeated and number 1. Miami had one loss and they played in the orange bowl 6 weeks later. Also Penn State was undefeated too. Ranked 2nd. Other than 2006 , the OSU-Michigan game was always played at noon. I got the iron bowl game in the East. Auburn-Alabama did play on Thanksgiving afternoon in 1992. Through 1991 this game was often played the first week in December. ABC rarely did two national games back then, if ever.
Doesn't matter ohio vs michigan represents all things big 10 vastly overrated and boring those two irrelevant teams didn't deserve a national game
@@elvangulley3210 excuse me that argument about the big 10 is weak
valid point
@@rewing84 what has the big 10 done besides get dominated by the sec and what big 10 team not named ohio state has done anything of note the media kisses the big 10s ass because of the wins they got before ww2
That game will be national until doomsday.
I would have put the Iron Bowl at noon and UM-OSU in primetime.
The Iron Bowl: *is a game people would actually want to see*
ABC: "y'all ready to see Ohio State and Michigan?
Want me to breakfast for Alabama? No one with all their teeth cares about the iron bowl.
Wow. Another idiot who bases his thoughts on stereotypes.
Your NFL analogy is laughable because you don't know how NFL TV works. Those two game you mention would have had their timeslots decided before the season and not only that, you had one NFC game and AFC game which meant the game would be ON DIFFERENT NETWORKS. You NEVER would have had that issue come up in the NFL to begin with.
Also, you completely ignore the main reason they could NOT show the game nationally. They were also airing OTHER games at the SAME TIME. The had a Big 10 game and a Pac 12 game. So, you really think it is a good idea to piss off fans of FOUR schools so you can show a game nationally? That would also be pissing off their respective conferences.
A very disingenous video and sloppily researched.
College football was definitely more regional than the NFL, especially back then (and even moreso back in the '70s and '80s). Winning your conference, if you were in one, was more important than a national title. Or maybe not "more important," but had more emphasis because that's the one thing that you could control--the national title was in the hands of bowl game selections and pollsters, not really on-field results. So it led to goofy-in-retrospect stuff like this, but it's quite possible that most people in Oregon, which got the Civil War in this timeslot, didn't really care about the results of the Iron Bowl (especially in '94, with the Ducks playing for a then-rare Rose Bowl berth).
On the plus side, TV time slots and bowl slots being so precious meant that there was a greater emphasis on getting your team exposure and a rare (pre-1984) chance at television and less emphasis on getting to 6 easy wins. This meant that non-conference schedules were more packed and teams would play multiple "power" opponents instead of maybe 1 good opponent, 2 MAC schools, and a 1-AA/FCS team. Ohio State went about 25 years without playing any team equivalent to a "Group of 5."
Just going by Ohio State, their OOC schedules from 1994 back a few years:
1994: Fresno State (Pigskin Classic in Anaheim), @ Washington, Pitt, Houston
1993: Rice, Washington, @ Pitt
1992: Louisville, Bowling Green, @ Syracuse
1991: Arizona, Louisville, Washington State
1990: Texas Tech, @ BC, USC
1989: Oklahoma State, @ USC, BC
1988: Syracuse, @ Pitt, LSU
1987: West Virginia, Oregon, @ LSU
1986: vs. Alabama (Kickoff Classic in NJ), @ Washington, Colorado, Utah
1985: Pitt, @ Colorado, Washington State
A lot more Power opponents than non-Power ones. Keep in mind that Rice was a Power Conference team in 1993 (albeit a bad one) and Louisville, independent in 1991-92, wasn't really (despite a Fiesta Bowl berth in 1990). IIRC Utah was an an emergency fill-in after Army and Kansas State both backed out of games, and BGSU was a late sub for attempted games with Wake Forest and Temple. To me, this run of non-conference schedules is way more interesting and exciting than Ohio State's more recent ones, despite some great opponents.