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“Open up the brain, where’s the thoughts” is like taking apart my hard drive and asking where’s my vacation photos.
Great example imo.
“It’s IN the computer” - Zoolander
@@minersparks8959 I'm so glad you said this😂
I love when people can read my mind and know more about what I believe than I do.
You don't mean that.😁
Smells suspiciously like witchcraft to me.
@@dinkaliciousWhich according to the bible is not only real, but serious enough to warrant death. Weird how no one today has successfully practiced witchcraft then.
@@dinkalicious As you know we should suffer no witch to live.
It is annoying (but IMO, it usually indicates that some part of their brain is struggling with their faith bc it knows better)
I truly believe the caller doesn’t believe in gods he just suppressing his disbelief because he has so much invested in the premise. 🙄
"Deep in his brain of brains, he knows that he worships a mythological being, but he suppresses it in his self-righteousness.
These two clash as hosts.
Lol just like watching Tracie clash with John on The Atheist Experience. Seems a little more subtle though so I get if others don’t see it.
Probably the most tragically entertaining thing about the claim that "atheists believe in `God`" is the notion that we think pretending not to believe something we actually do, would somehow absolve us of the consequences of whatever it is. Like if I just pretend not to believe in tornados, I will never be hit by one. It's absurd, but you can't help see the reasoning from people who think simply believing something is true, makes it true.
Good analogy. John’s spiel fits with the apologist’s idea of the angry atheist, one of the dumbest interpretations of human psychology I’ve ever heard.
I believe that my hand won't get burned when I put it on a hot stove. (Or, at least I thought so...until I burned my hand. I was 4 years old, so give me a break.)
So much for faith.
Yeah, obviously if i believed in god and was scared of hell I'd not just act like it isn't real, I'd go full devotion to dodge it
People like to fronde.
And if you are scared pissless about death and the "afterlife", you will believe anything to ensure the eternal life balloon never pops. Sure, and you're going to live forever.......
God is not an explanation but a lazy mental assumption.
I find one of the best arguments against God's existence is raising the fact about early humans hunter gatherers who pre-date all religions by almost a million years, and although they would have been superstitious due to ignorance (understandably) it shows how religions we know today arose by people holding other superstitious beliefs in an attempt to understand the world.
@@nickydaviesnsdpharms3084 Actually this is not a good argument against god. It just shows people make up stuff when you let them. Doesn't mean there is no god. You need to think a bit broader. Don't worry, I am an atheist myself, just pointing out the flaw in your logic. You (in your mind) limit your idea of god to the Christian one. But the fact that people make up gods doesn't mean there is no "real" one. Still haha, highly unlikely.
If I may rephrase what I think your point is : the god hypothesis is a thought stopper to push away incertitudes.
And yeah seems to be the case.
its an explantion if your level of evidence or critical thinking is extremely low, like most christians
If you are an atheist, is it 'wrong' to be mentally lazy? That is, atheism is a religious belief where people make their own rules, so why is it 'wrong' to be lazy? Yet, if you claim that atheism is not religious, why are there so many atheist preachers? Atheists have their own theories about the origin, purpose, morality, and destiny of the human race. Atheism does not seem like a religious belief because it is so absurd to think that everything came from nothing. Of course, if it waddles and quacks, why not call it a duck? Atheism is religion.
Do not be deceived. God will soon judge the world in righteousness and all liars will find their place in the lake of fire. Yet, Christ died on a Cross so that we may know Him.
Jesus Christ is the light of the world.
So he believes the rainbow coloured fairies and pixies at the end of my garden created everything.
Only if it's in a really old book that man couldn't write despite the fact men wrote it.
Yes
They really can't conceive of anything outside of their cosy little bubble of fantasy, can they?
Which end of your garden? I think we are having a schism coming up here!
@@TiKallisti The North end of course, where the good witch Glinda presides
I *knew* I recognized this guy's voice. He was on a more recent clip that had been posted a month or so ago, and was doing the same constant "Uh huh" and "Hmmm" and constant ignoring of objections.
He's been calling for years doing the same things.
I noticed that too
Time to.get a new profession mental matt/ atheists the holy bible and dean odles biblical flat earth presentation destroys mental matts nonsense he spits out! Jesus saves sinners! That means YOU!!
@@gregsimmons694 Don't reply to stuff on CZcams while you are tripping balls.
@@gregsimmons694 why do you believe the earth is flat? when you can do tests yourself that conclusively show it is a spherical shape? Do you disregard what your eyes see, for what the party tells you to believe? Only way I can see that happening.
@@gregsimmons694do all sinners who do not repent go to hell?
I ate spicy Indian curry last night and prophesied that I’d have a big steaming dump in the morning. And once again,I have proven myself to be the prognosticator of prognosticators. A true virtuoso prophet if you will…
The proctological prognosticator.
And that it burn slightly?
I don't know about your big words but I'm ambimasturbatory (bi-dextro-masturbationist)
I can switch hands without missing a stroke.
You should do a comedy with the 3 stooges , mental matt ,demented dave and tricky ricky the atheist comedy tour for fools like you! Jesus saves sinners like YOU!
A reasonable forecast of the future
This callers conversation with Forrest and Jimmy is really really good too. Because they call them out on all of his bull crap
What's the title of that video?
@@michaelmerriott2155seconded, Id love to see it
@@michaelmerriott2155 I'd like to know that too.
Anytime I don’t need to listen to jimmys annoying ass is a good day
Is it the Abel call? The Sunday Show 12.03.23 1:57:30
When John can’t prove something he goes to another claim he can’t prove.
Christian husband: “Do you feel oppressed?”
Christian wife: “No sir.”
I look at the trees and I love the world, my heart swells and I am overcome with gratitude. None of this requires a "god." Gratitude is not a transitive property, but more a feeling of joy when you feel lucky. I am lucky to be as well adapted to this world as I am.
This is the only christian ive ever heard actually admit that he's stumped on any of these athiest talk shows. Good on him.
I'm always amazed at how theists seem so comfortable telling you what you are thinking and feeling as if they are mind readers.
They just assume that, since I think this way, everyone else must also think this way. If this is how I feel, everyone else feels just like I do.
The absurdity of that idea seems to be completely lost on them.
It's a variation on the fallacious Argument from Incredulity, a general-purpose favorite among theists anyway.
The basic form is "I personally can't imagine how X could be true. Therefore X is not true."
The variation is "I can't personally imagine that I could be wrong in telling you what you're thinking. Therefore I'm right."
Of course, fallacious arguments constitute a fascinating study in their own right.
But it's equally fascinating, to me, that any part of the population is committed to the idea that cultivating a sufficiently strong belief in something will make it true.
We can call that a Peter Pan fallacy. Against all reason and evidence, these people successfully believe that something is true. They believe it when Peter Pan tells them they can fly. And if, one by one, they fall to their deaths, oh well. They weren't sincere believers.
😊❤😊❤😊😊😊❤😊❤😊
Also "You can't know the mind of God". Proceeds to "explain" the thinking and reasoning of their god 🙄
"An ancient book told me that deep down, everyone believes in this one particular god. And I know it's true, because I believe in that god."
"Really? I don't believe."
"You're lying. It says so in the book."
being able to accept that other people aren’t you requires empathy.
The "you are suppressing your belief" is such a bullshit line of reasoning.
It's another example of a cop out. It's a typical tactic of a theist who presents an opinion as a fact when it's an opinion.
i just dunno why theists think it acceptable to use the bible to prove the bible. it defies logic. it makes no sense.
Haha
Indoctrination is a hell of a drug
Some will say that not all circular logic is a bad thing. I say that's bullshit, but apologists and their special pleading. Amirite?
It takes a brain to understand logic to begin with.
If they had a decent capacity for logical reasoning they wouldn't be theists in the first place
The arrogance required to insist that you know what's in my head better than I do is unreal.
It comes from the bible verse Psalms 14:1 - A fool says in his heart 'There is no God'. And so theists take this to believe that everyone actually knows that their god exists and just deny reality. It was the way I was thinking back in the day when I was a Southern Baptist.
It also comes across as kind of creepy, too. Like someone saying "You KNOW you love me, you're just suppressing it". Real awful stuff.
These two hosts are so similar yet have differing tactics so that they clash
I KNOW theists don't really believe, all religions are just big grifts everyone is in on. See how that's a ridiculous thing to claim?
Actually, you are spot on, because reality dictates that theists deep down inside don't really believe in their fatuous BS. That's why they're called 'apologists,' because they have to apologize for their religion's shortcomings.
Indeed, religions are big grifts. But grifts can only work if there is a credulous population to exploit.
The credulous may also advance in the religious hierarchy, participating in the grift while still at least partially endorsing it themselves. So they become both credulous and grifters.
I think you don't really appreciate how commonplace this kind of self deception is. It's how people stay in abusive marriages. It's how the traditional crime families of Italy entrenched themselves in society over generations. It's how slavery could operate with only minimal threat of enforcement.
It is the very nature of duplicity to only think enough to be compliant, not enough to protest. And it is how all authoritarian systems operate. Whether they think themselves benign or malignant is almost irrelevant.
@starfishsystems And if someone escapes or diverts from (insert religion), shaming, Lexington, and other discrimination tactics to keep the system (more of a government) from critics. AKA Atheist and Skeptics.
John assumes that no one could ever write a new story that fulfills the predictions made in an older story.
The New Testament says that prophecy told in The Old Testament came true...
The fact that someone writing NT read OT and therefore crafted a narrative to match.... I mean, any good sequel gotta line up!
Yeah, and they even massaged the actual prophecy that the messiah's "name shall be called Emmanuel" to be "well actually Emmanuel means 'one with god'... the *real* messiah's name shall be called Jesus!"
He initially was quoting Ray Cumfort.... about murder.
It’s Ray CumFart.
I mean Comfort
I knew this was going to get stupid the moment they said "Florida."
As someone who lives in Florida, I agree with this statement.
My sis, bro-in-law and my nieces live there (near Orlando) and I believe they too would agree with this comment! 😂😂😂 They once live in SoCal near me but left due to the cost of living....... Oh, and they're Disney-heads so that could have persuaded their choice of state/location. Sorta like gamblers moving to Las Vegas, NV. 😉
Presups are the worst of apologists
_"We'd both get a lot more out of this dialogue if you'd just concede that I'm right before a word is uttered. Can ya dig _*_that?"_*
Presup allows for justification of ANY god claim, as long as they define the god in a way that maintains the "god works in mysterious ways" concept
You guys are VERY patient. You will not change this guys mind.
Exactly!
This guy didn't use any kind of logic or reasoning to come to the conclusions that he believes, so it would be virtually impossible to try and reason him out of his nonsense.
It's not about changing the callers mind
@@carlwheezer1030 Disagree - the show is about demonstrating that religious beliefs cannot be backed up by reason with the hope the caller would recognize their logical inconsistencies and re-think their acceptance of those beliefs.
@@LagasaurusRex-vm1kmYou’re wrong. A caller rethinking their position is a possible bonus, but the show is for the listeners. It reaches a wider audience, possibly helping other people out there while simultaneously giving other atheists tools of logic to debate/educate with.
I liked Matt’s patience. The other guy seemed emotional. I think Matt reached out to the caller better and got him to being a skeptic.
This guy keeps interrupting with words of agreement. “Right, yep, absolutely, yessir…” I can’t tell if it’s attitude, dealing with the rhythm of the delay or a mix of both
That means "I understand you're done speaking, allow me to continue without addressing what you said."
I get the feeling he's not listening at all, or that they're talking past each other.
Matt: "Somebody wrote Genesis".
Me: "Yea, I think it was Phil Collins." 😆
In a 1990 TV special Phil Collins, Mike Rutherford, and Peter Gabriel each claimed (in quick succession) that they did all the writing.
@@wizardsuth thanks for that. it doesn't surprise me a bit lol.
In that case, I’m going with Steve Hackett.
Arkacark was their best album.
Or was it Gabriel ? Ooh spooky !
I hate it when people say everything is so complex that there has to be a god. As if the idea of a god isn't complex af
Every time a Christain claims that they know we believe in god because their religion tells them so, they only succeed in proving their religion false.
I think this guy took a quick course on mind reading from Prager U.
I knew you were going to say that.
If god is outside of reality then She´s not real buddy
Prove your assertion (by the way, you can’t). We’re in the realm of things unprovable, yet you claim certainty. Is life too complex for you, necessitating over-simplification?
I’m not sure John is a good representation of theism in general, but he’s definitely the poster boy for Florida.
I really enjoy Eric's positive energy...
"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."-Lucius Annaeus Seneca.
As soon as I hear that Southern Drawl, I know something stupid's about to be said. Every one a cigar!!! But by the end of this call, I got the feeling he might come to his senses; he seems reasonable to some degree.
I am hungry, therefore I want a sandwich.
Descartes would have been proud.
@@diogeneslamp8004 I eat therefore I am
@@david2869 😂👍
Some theists simply cannot handle or feel their own faiths are threatened
when finding out more and more people are no longer buying the god fantasy and delusions Religion has been pushing.
"Anyone can be big on claims, but ya gotta have evidence to back it up." Couldn't agree more John!
The "thoughts" exist in the same way that "data" exists on a computer drive.
If the computer stops running, the "data" goes away, because it takes either constant power to maintain the storage, or a physical record like a disk.
Either the neurology contains a hard physical representation of the "thoughts" which would be consistent with some parts of the brain that we don't have conscious awareness of. Much of the autonomous nervous system has a very basic stimulus-response physical reaction; the "consciousness" of Being is more like the flexible/digital memory of a computer that only exists within the programs that require constant electricity to maintain.
When the power stops flowing, those ideas/mental constructs stimply stop; they don't "GO" anywhere, they just aren't there anymore.
Whats most interesting about this call is the tension between the hosts
I remember this call. Another classic case of shifting the goal posts and just presuming.
You cannot logic someone out of a position that they have not logiced themselves into that position. It's (blind) faith vs. Logic.
Reasoned!
You know i have MANY issues with my catholic upbringing but three things I'm grateful for.
1. My parents have never been or encouraged me to be homopbobic
2. My church and parents largely ignored the Satanic panic even though I grew up im the thick of it
3
My biology teachers only concession to religion was encouraging us not to reject evolution just because we were Christian, he was to but he wanted us ti understand the science and judge it on the overwhelming evidence not belief
I disagree with Matt. The world doesn't look like there is a mind behind it to me. I think many of us that are familiar with the processes that exist think this way.
His position was more like that he understand how it can look like it, rather than it does look like it. Of course with the point that just because something looks like something doesn't mean it actually is.
John is right! I busted open an old pc and voila, bunch of old games, pictures and videos spilled out all over the floor! 🤪👍
Man I love Matt I just can't 😂😂😂😂
Re: putting you in an MRI and seeing what you see. Actually, there has been some fantastic research recently that can do just this. It looks at the MRI reading and compares it to a massive database of MRI signals of people observing certain scenes and objects and builds a picture based on this. It takes massive processing power and huge amounts of data but the images produced are quite accurate.
Remember, with the poorly educated (=religious), every accusation is actually a confession. So this caller actually realizes that he DOESN’T believe in a god, so he needs to project that doubt onto those he doesn’t understand.
John spent the entire conversation just waiting for his turn to talk. He never heard any deeper meaning beyond keywords that triggered predetermined responses. When he couldn't latch onto a keyword he'd say "okay, you have a point there. I'll have to look into that."
The good old days with Matt at the ACA.
This guy sniffs glue.
also his sister's panties....definitely homeschooled by mouth-breathing siblings. he calls Auntie Mom and Uncle Dad
John: The capital of Texas is Amarillo. The bible says so.
The hosts: No. Its Austin.
John: Right, right.
Matt ate up the host the whole time lmfaooooo
The mind isn't physical. The mind is mental.
I could have sworn that I have a physical thing called a brain, which generates my thoughts.
John comes across as a nice guy who is monumentally ignorant for his age, and it's not entirely his fault.
He's been brought up in tradition that doesn't value learning about science, or even looking up information for yourself.
And now wants to ban books 😵💫
Poor John.
God is not a good explanation for the universe.
The Aenor defeating the frost giants, and shaping the universe from the skulls of the dead giants, is a getter explanation.
I don't have faith in faith
I don't believe in belief
You can call me faithless
You can call me faithless
And I still cling to hope
And I believe in love
And that's faith enough for me
And that's faith enough for me
N.Peart, RUSH :-)
RIP ❤
Literally faith only makes sense if it’s used as a positive affirmation. In my case,it’s for this apartment I hope to move in to by early June. I get anxiety from things like that no matter how much I prepare for it. So telling myself I have faith I’m gonna get it,helps alleviate that anxiety. I think it gets crazy when you’re using faith to determine your world view and how you treat others and live your life. And for what happens in the afterlife when you die. That’s where I think it’s not as useful and even detrimental.
If I was a fiction writer, I could write a novel that ended with unresolved issues and even predictions, and that would be a kind of a cliff-hanger. Then suppose I wrote a sequel novel in which all those predictions I made up somehow get resolved. That’s exactly how I view the Old and New Testaments of the Bible. One man-made book with “prophesies” and a follow-up man-made book with resolutions of those prophesies. Two man-made books of pure fiction.
It's pretty insulting to tell someone what they believe, especially when you don't even know that person.
Coming Soon John from Florida starring in What Atheists Want THE MOVIE!
Thoughts are electrical signals your brain uses to view them lmfao and this dude be like there for god
I'm pretty sure Matt and Eric had a lot of friction offline. This video showed so much conflict. Both men are so certain of their psychological understandings that they're bumping heads.
Stincker is projecting... ;)
John thinking of a red moon in MRI doesn't necessarily mean that's the case for everyone. That is John's brain only. Not to mention the MRI lighting could be refractive light in parts of the brain also. So no way of really identifying the origin of what you're looking for and why it light up. You can only observe what you have based on the screening. That's all you can do with that really
The purpose of religion, is to keep the masses in check.
When he was talking about thoughts "existing" I had just watched a very old clip of Matt and Tracy talking about the difference in meaning between the existence of something like a coffee mug and the existence of abstract concepts like love. They both may be said to exist but the word applies very differently to one category of thing than the other.
At least this guy might actually consider looking at some other information-good on him.
did they make lariat function? :(
Brains require the specific pattern of electrical connections between nerve cells through dendrites to manifest as certain thoughts - everything involved is matter and energy doing its thing. Once its matter and/or energy is disrupted, the thought is disrupted, much like if a memory microchip containing an image is disrupted via the electrical circuitry or its material - its image is disrupted.
What about this is not simply natural matter and energy?
Does Romans 14:5 and 14:6 agree with the 4th commandment?
Actual question: Is a knowledge of good and evil required to understand right and wrong? Or correct and incorrect. Doing as you are instructed and not doing as you are instructed and why doing something you were told not to do is wrong? Is that actually evil? Imprecice language and all that. I agree with Matt in that you can't expect true innocents to understand why wrong = bad, but I wonder about the usage of the terms 'good' and 'evil' in this context. Maybe I need to dig into pre-translations and similar and see if there isn't some subtext or subtlety of meaning in the words used there. Heck, for all I know, the words used may literally mean good is good/yes/okay/sure/affirm/right/correct and evil might be synonymous with wrong/bad/nuhuh/incorrect/inaccurate and so on. I personally think of evil as the choice to do the wrong thing. As in chosing to cause harm when you know harm is being caused and that the harm outweighs the good, etc. But evil isn't the same as wrong. You can write up a math formula and get an incorrect answer without growing horns, a tail and trim goatee.
Lots of things are floating around in human brains. If you were brainwashed in childhood to believe religious twaddle, then that stays in your head forever. If you can remember it, it's still there. Even if you can't remember it, if it happened it's still there. Part of you -- the child that's still in there -- will always believe in little Jesus, meek and mild; he loves all the little children; all the children of the world red and yellow black and white they are precious ... etc
Show me the Christian who BEHAVES as though they REALLY believe there's some god to hold them accountable in some after-life.
I believ there is a Easter Bunny and Santa but not your superhero goD.
Now that’s chutzpah!
I'm about ten minutes in, and the hosts have taken the callers argument into the weeds, and I think it would have been more productive to let the caller make his argument, which I assume was going to be that "You do not murder, because you are subconsciously following God's law, and you know on a intrinsic level that it is wrong according to God." And that I think would be a far more interesting conversation to have with the caller rather than whether or not thoughts are things or not.
The argument from Christians is that if atheists TRULY didn't believe in God then there would be nothing stopping them from just constantly killing and doing horrible things, because after all it's not "wrong" to do so. For me, the truly sad thing is that Christians seem to have no concept of people not doing bad things because 1) we have empathy and for most of us we wouldn't dream of killing another because we can understand the grief it would bring to that person's friends and loved ones, nor would we want to cause another to suffer pain, fear, suffering etc because we are capable of understanding how horrible it is to feel those things ourselves., and also 2) humans are evolved social animals and we understand on a deep level that we do not kill, steal, etc because we do not want to be killed or stolen from in return. Also, we have hundreds of thousands of years of evolution as social animals giving us the understanding that if we commit horrible acts we will not be welcome to continue living among our fellow humans. All this is to say there is 100% an evolutionary answer to why we know right from wrong without needing to believe in a hidden belief and following of "god's law."
How did the caller know he is not subconsciously an atheist?
I believe in the triple goddess story. I believe it sounds like a good story
His epistemology is pre school level.
What a great call. This is what happens when the caller doesn’t act like an ass.
I do not believe for a second that he's an open minded guy.
Science means knowledge
What are your thoughts on Titus being JC?
John’s understanding of free will is without a doubt completely one-sided. He can choose to believe in God, yet find it impossible for someone to choose not to believe!🤨
Matt steamrolling at about 6:30 is frustrating - we have enough data now to show that thoughts ARE 'a physical thing' and that it's not just a 'correlation'. In just the last few years, technology scanning the brain has been able to construct images that a person isn't actually seeing (just thinking) and music that the person isn't actually hearing (just thinking).
We might still be a little fuzzy on all the details, and the science still has a long way to go - but we have compelling evidence that a 'thought' is a 'thing'.
Pissed me off too, but he was explaining that thoughts are concepts, just like ideas and emotions. 2+2 is a concept but doesn't physically exist
How you would define a "thing"? Serious question. As Matt did later say they are brain states. I'm not sure if that counts as a thing. For example consider magnetic computer hard drive a HDD. Inside are disks that store information by areas either being magnetized or not, telling if the datum is 1 or 0. Now that disk is a thing, we likely agree on that. But is the magnetic state a thing? Because the magnetization is just orientation of the atoms, it doesn't add anything to the disk itself. It is a state of that thing, without there being anything extra. I could see how this state isn't a thing by itself, because it's just orientation in structure. So if we say that data in HDD isn't things, then thoughts are not things either. The data itself doesn't exists as a thing, the thing that exists is the disk.
@@ShadowManceri graphite is a thing, paper is a thing, a book is a thing. I would say that the graphite applied to the paper to make the book is also a thing - that writing can be deciphered, it's not just a concept. An electron is a thing, a molecule used for chemically storing a memory is a thing, the current moving via the elections is a thing. I would say that the fact that we can measure electrical charges in various parts of the brain and use them to decide what the brain is thinking or seeing or hearing, means that those patterns in the brain are a thing. They're not just conceptual, something measurable is happening, and we can decipher it just like we do with the graphite in the book.
@@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg I would mostly agree with your list of things to be things. The writing in a book isn't a third thing, it's still just two things. The writing itself is a concept. This is because the graphite and book just happen to be at same place at same place arranged by a human. We then call this arrangement as writing, but I can't see the writing to be a thing by itself.
An electron is a thing, but its position/spin is not. That position is what gives it a state. By making electrons to be in certain positions forms a thought. So while electrons are things, the thoughts caused by them would not be as it's just result of their positions. You can observe and measure both the electrons and their positions.
You can measure concepts. For example a forest is a concept of many trees. You can count the trees in a forest. But forest itself isn't a thing, the trees are.
I just realized that god can’t hold a pen. All thumbs.
😂
24:00 you know Matt is making a great point when the caller listens for an entire minute straight without interrupting 😂
Mental matt the fool! Mental matt probably thinks a stork put the first humans on earth! Lmao The holy bible and dean odles biblical flat earth presentation destroys mental matts nonsense he spits out! Time to get a new profession atheists/mental matt! Jesus saves sinners
The typical fundy lack of enpathy: they are simply unable to understand people who do not share their beliefs...
And you better believe or else...
@@franciscosustek7249shiver me timbers.
I presuppose all presuppositionalists are wrong under my core presuppositions
“What’s the foundation for God?”
it takes light along time to get here? its 8 minutes
Good host, but not the best dynamic.
Ha ha ha, John - Florida, an open minded guy, who believes in Magic and Fairies
Don’t be an asshile. You certainly believe in some stupid shit too😊
At least John did he was willing to go to Matt's other pages and read up on what we know so far about earth's origins. Agood start!
Too much sun in Florida?
The fact that the author of Matthew constantly references “prophecy”, is a problem in and of itself. It demonstrates that he was familiar with these “prophecies” prior to his sitting down (most likely with a copy of Mark in front of him),and writing his own version of Mark. So it brings up the question of what is more likely to of happened, all of these events occurring as historical realities or he simply made his story fit a narrative he was already aware of? A story by the way, that he did not originate, but was simply improving upon an already existing story. Get out your Ocams Razor and start trimming away
Thoughts, consciousness, and qualia are most likely emergent properties of neurological structures and actions. Asking "where are the thoughts," is like going to a baseball stadium, seeing the field, the balls, the bats, the gloves, the players, and all of their actions, and then asking, "but where is the GAME?" The GAME is simply an emergent property of all those other things. When those players, bats, balls, gloves, and field come together in a certain way, THAT is when the game emerges. Thoughts, most likely, are the same. You've got a brain that contains neurons, synapses, hormones, transmitters, etc. And when those things come together in a certain way, THAT is when a thought emerges.
We don't (yet) have any real proof of this, but it is a plausible explanation that coheres with our best science, and therefore, at present, the one most likely to be true. And no god is required to make it true.
Wants come from instincts: food, sex, socializing, staying healthy, etc. We have an instinct to be selfish (greed, survival) and an instinct to work towards goals benefitting our social group (cooperation, self sacrifice.)
Because as a social species that too helped/helps us survive