Martin Keown CLASHES AGAIN With Simon Jordan As Fans DISAGREE That Saka Needs MORE Protection 😬
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- TalkSPORT's Martin Keown and Simon Jordan clash again over Arsenal's Bukayo Saka as fans disagree with Martin's comments.
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Martin Keown saying Saka isn't the type of player who draws fouls but Ayew is🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Someone needs to stand him up to proper scrutiny.
keown was one of the dirtiest player during his time and he talking about player protection? 😂😂😂😂
He's vacuous and uninformed, what do you expect.
Martin Keown 100% has a train set
Yeah, a vacuous, uninformed train set.
Will anyone talk about Saka diving every time inside the box?
No
You mean like in last Liverpool game when the keeper grabbed his leg? Oh please!!
They won't, as you can tell by the responses.
Every player litersly dives in the box
@@scottking869not every player cry’s about getting fouled tho 🤷♂️
Hazard was the most fouled player in the league consistently for 3 years. Never once heard him or Chelsea moaning like Arsenal now.
And look what happened to him. If you don't want players careers to fade out early they need proper protection. What a terrible analogy
@theblackswordsman9951 he got a move off of it to the galaticos, costing over 100 million and a bump wage increase
@@antonyallen8025 Then his career died due to injury
The majority of the 18 injuries he suffered were muscle related, likely due to him playing 100s of games at the highest of levels since the age of 16
He showed up to madrid looking like a telly tubby and you want to blame his downfall on injuries
This clarifies not getting over the line. That soft underbelly and weak mindset remains... and under Arteta.
This is exactly it, when it gets tough the first thing Arteta and Arsenal do is look for someone or something to blame rather than looking with in which is EXACTLY how you fix things. He's a decent coach but not an elite manager and frankly don't see him winning much, he could get lucky and win a league like Klopp did and he is 50× the manager Arteta is
"he should be first on this list for fouls" (even though he isnt) tells you how biased and deluded arsenal fans are
For the love of football can someone please stand Martin up to proper scrutiny.
Your comment nailed it!! Arsenal fans not worth speaking to.
I think it went over your head that comment. Try and engage brain and see if you can figure out why Keown thinks he should be top of the list (putting bias aside for one minute).
@@MrKeefy1967Think it actually might of went over your head. I’ve took on your advice to engage my brain and try and figure out why Martin thinks what he thinks and guess what? It’s really doesn’t matter because factually based on statistics saka is third for fouls on that list.
@@yelladean2598 OK, for the hard of thinking I'll explain. Martin thinks he doesn't get awarded fouls by the refs as much as he should. If the refs gave a foul every time Martin thinks Saka's fouled, then Saka would actually be top of that list. That was what was behind Keown's statement. It's an opinion and you have a different opinion. He's biased but so are you. And it's 'might HAVE GONE over your head' and not 'might OF WENT over your head'. Happy to educate.
After Martin gave us his Tottenham and Arsenal combined xi, containing 11 Gunners... Now arguing against *FACTS* ... how on earth can he be a neutral pundit?!
It is what it is
Don't think he's ever claimed to be unbiased
@badcampa2641
Everything is what it is my guy 😂
I see keown I turn off.
He's extremely Bias
If it wasn't an Arsenal player this wouldn't be a discussion..
Yeah because Arsenal are the only team who are actively launching formal complaints and acting as if they are owed something trying to push blame for their bad form onto anyone and anything other than themselves.
Alachma boolokha folaka destitute and weak . Rassceloka Halla of people . Shitus on the shoelookala
@@codywatson770I have to agree and it’s geting really stupid now and it’s only going to affect arteta and arsenal literally everything and everyone else apart from them selfs not scoring enough and aren’t actually as world class as everyone says they are they had there chance last season and still blew it you watch arsenal games every single arsenal player goes down for anything and saka is one of the best players isn’t that expected
@@Sinbad-cd6ohneither would you be
If you don't like the HEAT get out of the Kitchen- Salah gets fowled and KICKED all the time- He just get on with it!
Martin wants Saka to be protected so he can be free to injure Tsimikas etc with impunity.
Was that even given as a foul? No, it was shoulder to shoulder and a fair challenge, just bad luck that he got injured.
Martin is vacuous and uninformed and it shows.
@@hfwwf He's an ex-pro who played at the highest level for many years. That makes him more informed than you, me and for sure that windbag Simon Jordan. Silly comment.
@@MrKeefy1967 Regardless, someone needs to stand him up to PROPER scrutiny.
@@hfwwf Of course, that's what Jordan's there for, and he does a good job of it. And, of course, Keown does have a certain amount of bias towards Arsenal - it would be weird and very hard for him not to. Jordan's more articulate and smarter but to postulate that he's better informed than Keown, or any ex-pro of his experience, is nonsense. Football's all about opinions at the end of the day, some well-informed, other's not so much.
That first caller didn't understand the question he was being asked did he 😂
Thought that too - but it came out a bit second time around - was saying this is just an excuse for not addressing their football that has become obvious and that needs to change rather than Sakha being given more protection
Saka needs to toughen up, and he ain't the only one. I remember the days when Maradona literally had people trying to break his legs, legally, and my dad told me all about what Georgie Best suffered.
And you thought what happened to Maradona and Best was alright?
@Rayunicorn1 stop crying in all these comments, it's embarrassing but typical for arsenal fans
@@solidsnake3446 What do you have against crying?
But you cry if your players are fouled over and over? 😂
What about Saka tackle on Tsimkas few weeks ago that broken Tsimkas collarbone now is rule out for months now.
You mean Klopp flopping on top of him? Ironic, if Klopp was in his technical area he would have managed to jump out the way......... oh wait that is only Arteta........
@@LuE87ignorant/poor comment. Ultimately saka made a bad tackle on Tsimkas hence why he fell down in the very first place.
"He goes over like an old lady on ice skates"... hahaha.
Keown is making himself look silly here, Simon loves it! 😆
Nothing new
"I was only paid a tenner a game"
What has Saka's wages got to do with anything?
Arsenal are just embarrassing themselves at this point. How about focusing on putting the bloody ball in the back of the net
Every player will now think Saka is a wimp and they’ll go out to kick him and take him out his game. Salah gets doubled up on and fouled all the time. Often doesn’t get blatant fouls. But he cracks on and becomes one of the world’s best players.
Saka the BIGGEST DIVER in the league man, Keown needs to shut tf up, embarrassing 🤐🤐
yes, you're the one to talk after that Jota "penalty" against Newcastle LOL
@@LukasMatejka-du5hbit was an open net, he would have scored if he stayed on his feet, Saka dives when the angle is tight or he's lost control of the ball
The only Liverpool attacker who does not dive is Diaz lol, and you want to talk
No he isn’t, you weapon.
Biggest diver if you mean he does it everytime, muppet! 😂
Emerson didn’t need to foul Saka to insert him firmly into his pocket…
Goes over like an old lady on ice skates 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 Simon
Now everyone knows Saka is soft.
I am a newcastle fan its a contact sport bruno has be fouled more you don't see him spitting his dummy out saka needs to grow a pair
Bruno he just cowardly elbows people from behind like a big boy. Big pair he has got. I think they must shrink the further north you go, must be the cold air.
Imagine keown going on about saka needing protection when he used to poleaxe players 😂 . Hypocrisy of the highest order , shut up Martin 🤡
So you should speak but he shouldn’t?
Fact: Saka goes down easy.
No the fact is that is your opinion
Last season at Stamford Bridge, after winning a penalty for Arsenal, (and scoring) Saka said after the game..."I FELT a touch on my back so i HAD TO GO DOWN"...
Saka ISN'T being fouled (all the time) hes BUYING fouls (most the time)
Firstly that was 2 seasons ago, secondly he said he was "dragging my shirt so I had to go down" which Azpilicueta was you can even check back stop twisting words to force a point
@@lewisrichards5494 nope. YOU go listen to the interview again. He wasn't grabbing any shirt. He touched him. Face facts... Saka isn't no victim. He gets fouled and WINS fouls like most prem players.
@@Law-n-Lyrics go check that highlights again he was being dragged I remember it clear as day
He's been tackled 80 times by the rules. Saka should go and play in womon football
By highlighting concerns over Saka, Arsenal have achieved what they set out to do and are already in the heads of Referees. It will be interesting to see how much 'protection' he is afforded in the games ahead. It could of course always backfire on the Club.
Keown's headed too many balls in his life
Arteta should have been punished earlier. The saying of "take an inch and they take a mile"
Arteta, thinking he can get away with it, is asking for more again.
Just ask Arsenal Football Club to STFU. Every clubs' best players are always targeted.
if Saka is 'fouled' the 3rd most... THAT MEANS HE IS BEING PROTECTED
He gets the 3rd most free kicks - surely the being not being protected are the likes of Salah who gets booted and DOESN'T get the free kicks
You also don't get the point, Saka is fouled more times than those above him, but the refree doesn't give the fouls meaning it will not be recorded as a foul.
No, you clearly dont get it - the statistic is 'Saka is fouled the 3rd most in the league'
That means he gets the 3rd most free kicks... Typical Arsenal moaning about absolutely everything... pressure of a title race got to them last year and it has already this year, you lot just cant handle it @@eversonpukayi9654
@@eversonpukayi9654 The numbers don't show he is fouled more than them😂
@eversonpukayi9654 those stats are for foules GIVEN!
The new Sterling.. so annoying to watch.
He belongs on a diving team, end of story 😂
How do you protect him, tell the opposition they can't tackle him?
Surely it also needs some context of minutes played per player, touches, possession of the team etc.
It's getting to the stage where any tackle is a foul
1:37 Anyone thought it was gonna be KSI for a second? 😂
I wonder if Keown believes Ruud VN should have had more protection when he smacked him round the back of the head?
If Saka was a UTD forward playing against martin back in the day, he'd have kicked lumps out of him.
Embarrassing pundit, at least attempt to give a subject opinion ....
TBH Saka was going down easier than Katie Price`s knickers against West Ham. Was looking to buy free kicks and a penalty all game
Yeah it was frustrating to watch they started playing for a pen when they went behind.
They are cheaters and now they want special treatment from the refs.
Antonio gets roughed up far worse but the refs never give him the fouls because he's a unit, so he doesn't appear high up on the fouls list.
@@DigitalNomad.1 spot on mate
saka needs some diving googles
Excuse after excuse for Saka. In reality he is massively overrated by Arsenal Fans and The Media. His stats show this.
To put this into context -
Riyad Mahrez 284 games, 82 goal, 61 assists - G/A every 1.98 games.
Bukayo Saka 154 games, 37 goals, 32 assists - G/A every 2.23 games.
Thats not even comparing Saka to the best wingers, Mane, Salah etc…
Wasn’t he one of a handful of players to get double figures in goals and assists last year? He’s on his way to doing it again this year as well
@@GIBBO4182 Really helped them win the league didn’t he… Didn’t turn up in the majority of big games. Top players do it regularly in big games. Saka doesn’t. Nowhere near, Salah, Son, Mane, Mahrez in the recent prem era.
@@FelixGallardo1946 They are all much older than Saka. He isn't in his prime yet
@@FelixGallardo1946 your comment was about stats, now you’re moving the goalposts and changing your argument!
I've never seen opposition teams doubling/tripling up on Mahrez which makes your analysis extremely shallow.
why is martin always writing a novel.
You can’t even touch a player without it being a foul, normal tackles are yellows. Saka dives no question about that. All players dive these days
Keown has got the blinkers on!
It seems no one read the actual article. It was not a letter to but part of a regular discussion.
Simon was 100% spot on I think everyone can agree
We need data on Saka's fouls. How many of them were bought ie. He dived.
True but there have also been some crunchers that have gone unpunished. I think both extremes are true and valid arguments
Martin Keown has to be the most blinkered, biased 'pundit' talk sport have! And that's saying something! Simon Jordan has him on toast here!
Fully agree with Simon that Saka is a terrible diver, and also with the Liverpool fan in that Keown is always ridiculously subjective for any Arsenal matters.
saka wouldn't last 5 minutes in the 80s and 90s he need to grow a pair just as well he aint playing rugby a man's sport not a pansy game
What about Grealish ? , was fouled so many times last season and Man City never came out with statements like this 😅
Bottlers will always complain 😂
@@michaelelah8106hhaaa well said
Instead of seeing how often Saka is fouled, the refs will be forced now to see how often he dives and gets away with it…
You guys are missing the MAJOR POINT, the issue is not that Saka is most fouled player but He needs protection like the first and second guys and others in the list, Ref. blows and issued cards more on other fouled players than on Saka's incidents..... be wise and guided STOP HATING ✋️
Arteta denied speaking to PGMOL about saka 😅
Maybe Saka should start playing tennis
Wonder how Saka feels?? Because lets face it! If you are a MAN, and get paid millions of pounds for playing football...surely, you would find this embarrassing?? Or maybe not in this day and age!!
Quite funny Keown talking about someone being fouled to much 😂
All these players needing protection??? What’s all that about
I’m sorry Hazard has had an earlier retirement partially because of the way he used to get kicked; Saka doesn’t get kicked anywhere near Hazard used to.
He had to retire cos he wasn’t In shape and didn’t look after himself. He was known as a terrible trainer
@@tevildo45 you’ve missed the word partially; you are right that caught up with him but he had a 10+ year career and still performed in the “best league” with the constant kicks
@@tevildo45 You don't have any idea what you are talking about. During his first season at Madrid he had a terrible injury. He was kicked by Meunier. He had a metal plate in his ankle that broke into pieces, damaging surrounding bones. It was followed by at least two surgeries (maybe more). He lost his pace, agility, acceleration and he had to play with pain. Next time inform yourself and don't spread this anti-Hazard propaganda. Yeah, he didn't train well but that wasn't the reason why he had to retire.
Poor old Martin. He’s a sensitive soul
saka is a diver, he has been for years, noone seems to mention it
You’re a highlight merchant
You.need new glasses fast 😅
Saka, like a lot of Arsenal players, dive.I agree with Simon.
Martin Keown is so biased about anything to do with Arsenal, he makes me sick, Saka is probably in the top few divers ( cheats), Simon is 100% right
And.....at number 1 we have.....Harry Kane !
Keown is a Clown. Saka is a part timer Diver part time soccer player.
“P p p p p p please can you look after our boy a little bit better” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Legendary Martin Keon wins this argument 👏 as a professional footballer
In terms of making complaint to PGMOL it was a pointless exercise.
What was the expectation or outcome sought?
Why Saka gets more media attention?? He hasn’t won any major trophy and nowhere near he is elite player.
First caller is also 0% Mo playing another character 😅
Simon = Top LAD Proper Clobber 💯 Facts
Many clubs probably complain the same about their star players but it happens quietly lol, not just a one club thing
The real context for me here is how much booking opponents get from fouling him compared to those other offensive players in the same most fouled bracket
Ayew, at this stage of his career, originates all of his attacking actions via initiating contact. I'm shocked that he is #1. A lot of refereeing decisions involving him are very suspect. Equally shocked that Guimaraes is #2 considering I only ever see him being the aggressor in challenges. The problem for Saka is that every player on the opposition team is given 4 or 5 swipes at him before anyone gets booked. The left backs in particular go in VERY strongly on Saka, who himself is very strong (recent examples: Cucurella, Emerson Palmieri, Tsimikas, Doughty). If any of these left back got booked in the 20th minute like they should have been, then we wouldn't see this discourse.
So what the heck does that have to do with Saka them playing the same thing over and over? 😮
Arsenal are only complaining because they know they’re running him into the ground, the kid never gets a break just plays every game and has done from a young age. They just need to rest him and stop relying on him
Saka buys fouls and falls all the time it’s a part of his game. Our style of play is awful team has so little fight or tenacity
So they want to be allowed to dribble like basketball players and get special ref protection as well?
Hasn't Saka injured a few players this season? 🙄
Protect him how? No players allowed within 5 yards of him? 🤦🏻♂️
Arsenal (its always someone else’s fault) FC
Noone who knows football can seriously claim that Saka goes down easily......
Case in point vs Liverpool when he SHOULD have gone over under the challenge from Alisson but didnt.
Exception was vs Fulham the other day when he did dive but generally speaking he does not go down easily- foolish to suggest he does compared to others
Why does martin always look like he's filling an application form in?? What's he writing down??
Coming from the dirtiest defender
Hang on, not fouled, free kicks awarded to, there’s a massive difference
P,p,p, please😂😂😂
Change the game DONT TACKLE ... change the game by putting tags on the players shorts.. if the defender pulls the tag off the shorts then the opposition can have the ball
So Saka is creative and unfairly fouled but every other player isnt creative and looks for fouls. Give yiur head a wobble Martin😅
"Its a nonsense"
-mario
Arsenal want him to be fouled more! The argument is HE ISNT GETTING ENOUGH FOULS!!!! Can't believe pundits haven't picked this up. The only reason the club give this a narrative is so refs see more fouls. Therefore give more free kicks. Therefore gain set pieces. Then get more goals! Noting to do with protection! The team aren't scoring. They want more set pieces so there tall centre halves get more chances. Takes pressure of their failing strikers end of.
Its simply excuses for not winning - its the old Klopp excuse machine - its not our fault we didnt win its because ...............................
Saka goes down easy a lot more than he gets fouled - maybe defenders should be protected more from Saka diving??
Jesus christ! Eusebio was crippled...and George Best.
A winger who tries loads of take ons gets fouled more than the premier league average!! I’m shocked just shocked
Why do you think he gets fouled? All his cheeky goal celebrations of opponents. He invites the tackles.
Footballers should toughen up
Its what footballers are taught in general, slightest touch, go down
You could be right
Ayew usually shield the ball to draw in fouls… He is so good at that.
The number of fouls actually called isn’t the point here….
Keown is short sighted.
Arsenal is complaining?? Nahhhhh
It’s a disgraaaaaceeeeee😂
If Saka is buying fouls, what is Grealish doing then. You can't even look at him and he will go down straight away. If Saka started doing that everyone would start calling him a diver, so you can't win no matter what.
Keown using his red spade again
Constantly seeking to achieve tough football is irritating.
Physically is all well and good but this is not an absolute or unconditional.
For instance should studs up challenges not be allowed?