The Super Sons Movie Goes Hard! Batman And Superman Battle Of The Super Sons A Review
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Batman And Superman Battle Of The Super Sons was a DC Comics animated film that flew largely under the radar. In it the sons of the Dark Knight and the Man of Steel must take on Starro. Jon Kent and Damian Wayne find themselves on a surprisingly dark (at times) adventure. From having to take on the likes of the Teen Titans, and Martian manhunter and green arrow; to seeking to escape Krypto at the Fortress of Solitude. This movie largely flew under the radar, and feels like it came and went, but how was it? Find out/let's discuss here on Casually Comics!
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Does this movie take place before they turned John Kent into a homosexual because that's the only way I'll watch it because I can't take the character serious after they done that to him and I have nothing against gays it's just they did that just to pander to people and it's just a joke they should have never done that it's one of the reasons I haven't been buying modern comics the last year or two because of all this left-wing nonsense but I love your channel Sasha You're absolutely beautiful on top of all of that I'd marry you if you wasn't already married lol
True: when DC animation is good, it is very good. When it is off - it is truly off.
There's a chance they could de-age John by it's implied that they don't really know for sure what went on when he got aged up I'm thinking that maybe this isn't even actually John that this is John from a different Earth like maybe he's ultraman's son from the new 52 when Superwoman was pregnant I'm thinking maybe that's him here and that the real John from the super sons is still out there somewhere and he's not a homosexual and it's this version of John that's a homosexual That's how you undo it without offending the alleged gay comic book fans that are so offended by everything but yet I've yet to meet one lol
I think my favorite part is that Superman is voiced by Travis Willingham and Lois is Laura Bailey, who are married IRL
So happy to see someone mention this fact, it's honestly so sweet.
Especially knowing that they voiced two characters that despise one another (Roy Mustang and Lust in Fullmetal Alchemist), but when you see Avengers Assemble you can see and feel the chemistry they have together whenever Natasha had somewhat of a moment with Thor.
Roy Mustang and Lust as Superman and Lois? Heck, yeah!
Travis does the same voice that he does for cameron campbell and it is very funny
I love these guys, they're great people all round
While watching this, my brother pointed out that the bucket used to milk the cow had a bat symbol on it, so we had a good laugh about how Batman needed to have a batbucket.
Was that bucket officially licensed merch & produced by Wayne Enterprises? If not, it's just a cheap Chineseium knock-off...
Of course he does, he does have a Batroom as well to go weewee in
Damien's pet cow as a Bat symbol on its face. At least we know why Damien is angry at the world. He has enough beef for everyone. To quote Bart Simpson, "don't have a cow, man."
"You don't understand Robin. Anytime I put the bat symbol on something I can write off on your taxes! It's a business expense!"
The "Bateverything" is a Robin thing.
Dick started it after Batman showed him the bat cave the first time and every Robin since has continued the tradition.
I think Batman does it now just to beat them to the punch...
A nice character detail for Damien is how he deepened his voice for a lot of the movie in order to sound more intimidating but as he gets more comfortable around Jon he starts speaking naturally
Jeje sí, es adorable verlo cambiar por un amigo ✨✨
How Jon tested his Mom to see if she was compromised was hilarious and relatable for anyone who was that age 🤣
If he were much more genre-savvy, the creepy silent'y walking down a dark hallway would have been obvious but I do like him testing his mom. Reminds me of Terminator 2 where the T-800 tested John's(lol) foster parents who were already killed and impersonated by the T-1000.
This movie was surprisingly good. I'm glad they didn't include the accidental pet killing with Jon's emerging powers like they did in the comics
Yikes.
@Will N yeah Damien was also really hard to like in the comics when he made fun of Jon for killing his pet. Like yeah he's a smart mouth brat but he's usually not needlessly cruel
@@AzLolFun yeah and it's so weird considering he is also often fond of animals and vegetarian on top of that
Imagine if Goten and Trunks had this type of effort into their characters
On premiere night, Adams said the team have a story ready for a sequel if it were to be approved. The big hurdle is this film making enough to warrant a sequel. I really hope it makes enough as this is such a gem.
Should Batgirl and Supergirl have their own SEPARATE animated team-up movie?
That would be amazing
YES!
That would be repetitive, and dc is terrible at writing female characters
I would LOVE that, BUT.... please get good writers because I want this to be on par with the Super Sons.
Only if it's earth two or just straight up huntress and power girl.
I remember when I saw they were "aging up" Jon Kent I groaned (perhaps even audibly). Young characters skipping their youth is a comics trope I've grown quite unhappy with. Illyana Nikolaievna Rasputina (aka Magik) for example. Now there's a subject I'd like to see more on, comics kids who've been "Aged-up."
As always thank you so very much for the videos.
Yeah, I wanted the middle school years of the Super Sons. Preferably with the other legacy kids that have been killed off or disappeared during reboots. How many kids get aged up, how many don't get to stick around, and who are the lucky ones that get to live their life?
The best writing of Damien is in the Wayne family adventures. I love how they show his struggle to relate to regular people and even the rest of the bat family without making you hate him.
As much as I love WFA, I think he comes across as too soft. He just comes across as a regular kid with social issues. The thing that weirds me out the most is how often he's willing to give full bright smiles. Even in his more personable incarnations, it was pretty rare.
Although it is infinitely preferable to when they swing the opposite way and make him a totally unlikable brat, which is annoyingly common.
@Will N To me it's just a step too far. It comes across less as a lighter take on Damian, and more of another character entirely. At the beginning, Damian was still softer than most canons, but noticeably reticent and standoff-ish in a way that made him feel distinct. Now he feels just like any other child character.
@Will N "The silver age was everyone being more friendly."
*Glances nervously over at Superman and Lois*
I honestly LOVE this movie and I really enjoyed the banter between Jon and Damian and I would pay for something like a Teen Titans (2003) or Young Justice cartoon focusing on Damian and Jon and it would follow them teaming up and eventually becoming best friends. I also loved the fact that Jon was taller despite the fact that Damian is older because that was one of my favorite gags in the Super Sons comics!
I REALLY enjoyed this movie when I watched it the other day. And maybe the toon-shaded cgi look was a lil weird at first (as was Damian's tall hair) but I got used to it and really liked the way most of the characters looked. And also it was a FUN film through and through. It's a total treat for those of us who miss the Super-Sons comic. :)
The end was hilarious too, I hope we get more of the Super Sons, their clashing personalities but overall ability to form a bond and friendship was great.
I once had a nightmare where Starro was invading Earth. I knew I once had a Green Lantern ring, but somehow I lost it. The feeling of being powerless to fight the invasion was heartbreaking! I will have to check this movie out.
I love this movie so much by far my fav animated movie that they released last year the dynamic between damian and Jon is just amazing they have my fav friendship in comics
I was a kid in the 70's, and i always loved the Super Sons, even tho they weren't around long. In later decades, I wondered if it weren't just a dream, but I think I even had a coloring book with them in it. It's cool to see them get revamped every now and then. And I think discovering Dad's outfit and writing it off as cosplay works much better than thinking it's roleplay. (ewww!)
Fun movie and terrific review. DC had a great thing with Jon and Damian as the newest iteration of the Super Sons. Then, they torpedoed it by the ridiculous aging up of Jon. Maybe with the restored multiverse, there's still a world where we can see these two the way they were before.
Fun fact: the voice actors for Superman and Lois are Laura Bailey and Travis Willingham who are married in real life.
I thought I recognized the dude from crit roll. Distinctive voice that was a bit over deep imo for Supes. Works well enough though
This movie perfectly (more or less) displays both the animated series Potential, Dc Rebirth counitinuty, and overall Story Success for Supersons. 😄
I hope eventually DC Comics gets a clue and restores it somehow. 😇
(and banishes that Aged Up Bendis Boy to forgotten-character-phase limbo, Son of Killed Off) 😈
Guy Guardner Warrior, Bloodties, Azrael Batman, Aquaman hand less, etc..
Every couple years DC and Marvel do this.
The make and take bunch of new characters and inflate them to MVP, Superstardom.
And then In a few years, they forget about them, and they're either killed off or forgotten.
And considering Jonathan kent, Superman has nowhere else to go, and all his development skipped over and rushed to make him his dad's equal (except not).
I can't see him doing much more after Tom taylor's done with him.
@Jelan Critic He's time traveled gone to space, the multi verse, handled the crisis, was Superman for earth, had his first relationship, What's left?
Shot they're load too quickly with him, if you ask me.
possibly the main thing i would change if this was a special for an animated series would be the titans mixed with young justice
Daneon pushing Jon off things never gets old
An indestructible playmate is really perfect. Jon’s a good sport.
This movie was really good. I’m one of those who can’t get past Bendis’s aging-up damage to Jon.
Oh, and Adams run on The Flash has been great!
The only thing I thought about the Superman "Truth, Justice, and the American Way" phrase that was said in the movie was I thought they changed to "Truth, Justice, and A Better Tomorrow."
I think their regulating the "A better tomorrow" phase to Jon as a way to show the passing of generations. Clark the old fashion values ( American way) and Jon's new generation ( A better tomorrow).
I enjoyed the movie a lot. It hit all the right buttons and actually made Starro scary.
Your daughrer was right, it's closer to Staryu, as for yourself, back to the Pokedex I think
Lol it's been years, it's fun to rediscover it with her
I'm so upset that this movie didn't get more attention. I'd love a sequel, or maybe even a series with these versions of the characters.
I loved this movie (the Super Sons was one of my favorite comics, right up there with Impulse) and would love if they made a whole bunch of sequels to it. That being said, it's a real shame I don't feel comfortable showing this to my 4 and 7 year olds. My 4 year old especially loves Robin, and with a few little edits this would've been great for him. Really wish they'd made this PG instead of PG13
The battle of the Supersons is a great DC film and great introduction to the friendship between Jonathan Kent's Superboy and Damian Wayne's Robin.
I loved batman and Superman battle of super sons its personally my all time favorite movie of 2022 and seeing it at New York Comic con was so worth it and even cooler meeting the cast and crew who made that movie on that big screen was so awesome and tons of fun that when I finally got to meet Jeremy Adams the actual writer of this movie I was so happy and congratulated him on doing a great job on my all time favorite team the Super sons in the comics and brought them to life in this animated movie made me so happy, that I am hoping really hoping that this movie actually gets a sequel because that would be really awesome to see more of the super sons in more adventures in animation especially with this amazing team who brought them to life in the first place would be a gold mine of so many possibilities and open the door for a lot of people not just myself who loved this team in the comics but to experience this amazing journey with these characters would be freaking fantastic and badass to watch these two grow with each other as a team would be amazing at least in my opinion. :)
Sounds like an awesome experience!
@@CasuallyComics indeed it was a awesome experience! also a bonus wearing my cosplay as Jonathan Samuel Kent superboy and watching this movie at New York comic con with this big crowd was really awesome and such a amazing experience that when i got to see Jeremy Adams he actually recognize me and liked my cosplay which was really awesome oh also a another bonus he actually really like my videos on his amazing flash run which makes me so happy. :)
I really liked this movie, I'm glad I happened to stumble across it on HBO max. I'd been reading the Supersons comics at the time so it was good timing!
The animation style put me off a bit at first, but I quickly got used to it and while it still seemed a bit awkward in places for the most part the characters' expressions worked really well
I dropped out of regularly reading comics around the time Leviathan Rising started. I was one of the fans who were not happy about the decision to age up Jon, and am honestly kind of surprised they haven't de-aged him. I was expecting that to happen as soon as a new writer got on the book. I have not read his solo series, so I can't comment on its quality or depiction of him. I am sure it has its good parts and its fans. But I loved the dynamic of Super Sons and the Superman run right before that focused on Clark and Jon's father-son relationship, and I think there was still a lot more that could have been done with it. I know comics has its sliding timescale, but they could have shown him growing up more gradually. How did they explain Jon's age up to all their non-superhero friends?
*sasha talking about how blood is super impactful in animation and the clip of super boy punching Batman comes up”
Me, a 20 year old: oh wow that’s a lot of blood.
I really liked the movie. The opening with Clark and Lois being good parents was a wholesome way to start off. I figured they never told John about his dad so he could have a normal childhood. Plus he wouldn't feel ashamed if he never developed powers.
Evil Staryu - nice to know you're raising them with Pokémon
I really hope Martian Manhunters gets the treatment he deserves in a DC adaptation some day... I get it though - hard to write a character with an alien mindset & that many insanely strong powers. I suppose Young Justice treated the Martians, overall, quite well at least - really got a sense of their power.
A justification I could see working for some people, in the climactic heros vs sons fight, is the classic "brainwashed characters aren't at their full potential" - maybe Starro can't think as fast as Kid Flash or its weird telepathy conflicts with Martians 🤷♂️
That's kinda why I thought the heroes were so weak too. Starro may have their powers and abilities and know how to use them on a surface level but he doesn't have all the experience that the actual wielder of those powers have
Loved it I'm sure some people enjoyed it because Damian got the slapped around. This and Catwoman hunted were fun rides.
Aw, that was fun! I didn't know this existed. I did like the animation very much, and I agree with you that the voice acting, characterizations, and the dynamic between the Super Sons in general all seem very well done. Sorry you're sick, I hope you feel better soon!
Yeah I put this on as noise to have in the background and ended up with my eyes fixed on the screen. It’s a really fun movie.
“Even short movies can feel incredibly long if they are poorly paced.” That’s how I felt about Super Mario Bros.
This film resparked my interest in superheroes. The last time I was this excited about them I was... 4 or 5. While I have watched the occasional thing since then, it was never with much interest in really getting into the world. This film changed that and made me want to see what I'd missed in 30 years since Lois and Clark (which my parents had watched and I watched along with them) had originally sparked my interest. As a young kid who'd been a fan of Lois and Clark, this film felt very much in tune with that universe and introduced a lot of stuff about Superman and Batman I didn't really know nor had cared about. The dynamic between Jonathan and Damian really works and is personally what drew me in as the two play off each other rather well.
I still say Brian Michael Bendis is a lot like Rob Liefeld in that when it comes to characters and stories he created, they're liked when they're handled by someone else.
I had never thought of that, but you're so right
I honestly give Liefeld a break compared to the damage Bendis done
I am uncomfortably early
They're not evil Staryu, they're Team Rocket Staryu
Hmmm. Who's the closest DC cognate to Pikachu? Lightning Lad? Probably Lightning Lad.
I think the issue with this 2D/3D rendering style is that the animation style they go for doesn't match. They could exaggerate it more to make it look and feel hand animated. Not to beat a dead horse, but a bit like Spiderverse and Puss in Boots.
I literally just finished watching this movie a couple nights ago and really enjoyed it honestly.
well now Im certainly gonna start calling Starro evil Starmie lol
also I did really enjoy this movie!! I miss the supersons as I have also never gotten over what they did to John and dont think I ever will....
also that talk about blood and curse words was funny to me cause like I had parents that let me watch anything, Im pretty sure my father showed me predator when I was a kid lol
It's Staryu
What a massive coincidence I just watched this movie last night!
@7:59 No Sasha, your daughter is right, she IS referring to Staryu. Never underestimate kids when it comes to Pokemon...LOL
Better to have simple but well told story of Super Sons than a complicated mess that was Green Lantern Beware My Power. Execution, that what matters, not the the intended demogarphic of the film.
I will always take a good movie over high art.
First Nice to see you doing an adaptation video, I know you can take them, or leave them …I’ve never read the SS comics, but agree this is a solid addition to the mostly strong DC Animation department ( much stronger than Marvel’s) …the voice acting was on point, maybe Jon sounded a bit to mature, but you would think Damian would sound that way because who he was raised by ( Ra’s & Talia) …& I’m sorry Truth, Justice, & The American way is Classic…in a Tarzan movie don’t you still expect the natives he is either friendly, or at odds with to be Black 🤷🏾♂️…I can understand the race swap argument…more Super Sons movies would be welcomed…Keep Up The Outstanding Work Sasha 🖖🏾
This was a fantastic stand alone movie that never had any advertising. I love that you are covering it!
I came across your channel by looking this movie up. Thank you very much for the review and I am now a subscriber. I look forward to future videos and checking out your back catalog of videos. FYI I look forward to my mug arriving 😁
Fun review of a very fun film - also, that whole discussion about the use of swearing in the movie reminded me of a particularly dramatic scene in one of the best animated movies of my own childhood, namely the 1986 'Transformers: The Movie'; wherein one of the human characters used (by modern standards) a mild cuss word in what turned out to be a deliberate attempt to expand the film's audience by ensuring that it got a 'PG' rating, and therefore got shown later and more often in cinemas than would otherwise be the case back in the day...(on a side note, it would be great if Sasha could review some Transformers comics some day, yes...?).
No, no,I needed Jon Kent to be in space with his psychotic grandfather and get aged up when he gets stuck in earth-3. I don't want him to have an organic growth and have him deal with regular stuff!!-Brian 'I cannot write a comic without needless quips and dialogues' Bendis.
I’m SO glad you covered this! I wrote it off because of the animation… but man! I just watched it only after finishing half your video and man! was pleasantly surprised. It’s defiantly going on my collection now :) was a good fun ride with surprising badass moments. Came back to watch the rest of the video now 😎. Thanks so much again for showing me the light of this movie!
I adore your channel, I run an after school program at a movie theater and you've one hundred percent convinced me I need to show this to people
So glad to see a review on this! I also really enjoyed the movie and it got me to read the Super-Sons comics. After reading the comics, I found that the movie perfectly encapsulated how this dynamic duo is. I would love to see more of Jon and Damian in this format! Depending on the writing, adaptions of the Super-Sons like more movies could appeal to a wide mainstream audience.
In general, there needs to be more marketing/a bigger spotlight for these straight-to-video/straight-to-streaming DC animated movies. Not every one of them has been good but that ones that are, deserve as much positive attention as the movies that get theatrical releases. Ever since the DCAU, animated stories has been one of DC's best strengths. You can tell that the people making these shows and movies are people who truly love and care about the material.
As a kid, I didn't get to a chance to read superhero comics so much of my own DC knowledge and love is thanks to animated shows and movies like Batman: The Animated Series and Static Shock. Although it's much easier for me to find comics to read now, I still love DC's animated works and sometimes prefer them over comics.
DC's strength in animation also sadly keeps being underestimated. I hope they continue to make these movies and that there's an understanding that these sort of stories can be just as appealing as the big budget live-action movies.
Evil starmie the size of a starro is a terrifying thought
I love the fast your little daughter knows Staryu.
Super Sons is the series that finally made me like Damian.
0:08 biblically accurate Starro
"still slightly likeable son Damien", ha ha good one n so true. Its good to see the super sons back, though i still prefer the old stuff; when they were older and one a hippie. I love Starro too; just because I associate him with my first JLA collection.
Great review! I totally recommended this film to my non-comic book friends when it came out on HBO Max and they enjoyed it almost as much as I did!
What is up with Damian’s hair? Fonzie called, he wants his gel back.
Not sure how I missed this. Thanks Sasha
This is one of those things I meant to watch, set on my calendar the date it was coming out, and then forgot about. So thanks for the reminder to go watch it
Love your hair! ❤❤❤
Love your channel 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
🤔...The movie was fun, but...really, the one thing I did not like was that it feels like Damian is the only Robin in that universe.
It also kinda feels like there was a Superheroes can only have one living biological child if they are not twins trope going on in DC...you would think Lois and Clark would have more than just John (unless they did something that explained Lois can't have more kids) even going back to earth two...at least in that one it makes more sense with batman and Catwoman as they get married after batman has been batman for 15 years (brave and the bold # 197) as bruce is 41 by the time he and Selina get married and is 43 when they have Helena and assuming Bruce and Selina are about the same age or close to it Selina is close to her change.(I do not know how to spell the word for it). so that makes some sense...interestingly enough, if its still canon Damian was conceived early in Batman's carrier (i kinda think it's going to be retconned to Damian was cloned the same way Respawn was). Damian is 14 years old...meaning Bruce has likely been Batman for 15-17 years. (i really want Helena to be brought into the main canon.) meaning Helena could be actually coming with all the teases in New Golden Age and JSA. I am fascinated by DC's timeline and trying to figure it out in the Batman books...0_0 (BEEP) i think i just figured out why non of the old new sidekicks in Stargirl the lost children cant go back in time to their propper time.
I actually just rewatched the Super son's a few days ago so the timing of this is kinda funny to me 😄
Randomly watched it on a plane a little bit ago. I enjoyed it. Glad to see it covered.
I'm noticing that people seem to like the Super Sons, but DC seems to hate it and want to bury it
I don't get why they felt the need to rapid age Jon. Was he not good at getting younger audiences into comics?
Also, I wanted the middle school years of the Super Sons. Preferably with the other legacy kids that have been killed off or disappeared during reboots. Lian and Damian butting heads would have been fantastic.
Wow, the second film to make Starro scary.
I was hesitant when I saw the trailer because of the animation but I ended up not minding by the end - as you said the voice acting and the attention to source material made it more enjoyable
Watched this movie last night and I was wondering if anyone online had done a good review on it. Today I see this. Canadian hive-mind??? Lol.
This movie was fun and light-hearted. You can tell the people working on it were fans of comics and wanted to tell a good and cohesive story (there seems to be struggles with that recently for some comic book movies). I’m so happy to see you review this movie!
Wonderful review. You definitely piqued my interest in watching this animated movie.
I enjoyed the tone of this movie, and wish they used it more in the comics
jimmy actually wasnt gender swapped in the snyderverse, he was killes in a cut scene from batman v superman. it was re integrated into the ultimate cut version.... for money
I miss the super sons so much. Why did they have to ruin Jon with that age up? I'm not mad the he's gay, I'm mad that he's suddenly a grown ass man with Daddy issues.
I wish they'd reset them. Jon can still be queer, that's fine. Queer kids need representation. I just want my wholesome adventures back
I saw some clips on YT. Then I saw the trailer and it was epic to see. Star is a great villain in my opinion. I going to watch this when I get home later ✊🏼
Thanks!
Well, you've convinced me. Can't wait to add it to my shelf right beside my Dick Durock Swamp Thing collection.
I am more than a causal comic fan but far from a hard-core fan who is near 60. I thoroughly enjoyed the movie.
Sasha could become a spy with her wig collection 😂
Glad to see you watched this. Its another reason i am still annoyed how it got messed up with DC aging up Jon :/
was the universe and youtubers waiting for me to watch this movie so to make content ? , finally watched it last tuesday and videos about this movie have been flooding my recommendations
Watched this as soon as it hit HBO Max and thought it was great! The animation and story and Starro himself made an all altogether great movie that worked for adults. And the artwork was alot better than some of the past movies lately. Shame there was no Kevin Conroy...anyway 5 stars! Would it be better to support the channel here on CZcams or Ko-Fi?
I enjoyed this movie, as well as your review. I look forward to watching you review all the upcoming animated DC movies, especially Justice League x RWBY: Super Heroes and Huntsmen Part One Digital.
"I don't need a farm boy to teach me how to take care of a cow"
Uhm...
Jon: Mom, why is there a Superman costume in the closet?
Lois: Well, your dad is really super, if you get what I mean
Jon, embarrassed and retreating: Never-mind, forget that I asked
Love that it included Bat Cow
Great review. Are you going to dig into Batman: The Doom That Came to Gotham?
Saw it and loved it. Was a little mad I didn’t know it was coming out!
I thought the guy who died at the beginning of BvS was Jimmy.
I was hoping Jarro would also make an appearance.😊
I saw this movie the week it came out. I thought it was very well done, I agree with your points. However, I feel like this DC universe is looking to get back to basics. Meaning, doing these tropes hopes to establish that everything is back to the status quo. Which is similar to the Comics right now. We had the new52, now this is rebirth. Sometimes in order to bring everything back to normal you need to serve a little bit of cheese. This movie does it very well. It’s engaging, fun, and it’s meant for a wide audience. It checks a lot of boxes and does so with flying colors. I have been enjoying, the new animated movies and I look forward to more to come
Could you do a video on Secret Hero Society? It was a graphic novel series where all the DC characters are middle schoolers, written by Derek Fidolfs and art by Dustin Nguyen. It's really easy to find, but for some reason it seems to have completely fallen through the cracks when it comes to DC themselves. It's not on the wiki, the official DC website, or any pirating site I've ever heard of, despite being an official DC publication. I've always wondered why that is, and it'd be amazing if you talked about it, cause it was such a significant part of my comic book childhood.
It was a good movie, and it made me miss having Super Sons in the DC Comics. The relationship between Damian and Jon Kent as two children doing superhero stuff is a great dynamic we need back desperately. Thank you, Bendis and DC! 🤬
Did not even know this existed!