Why an F1 Tire only last 50 miles

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    Have you ever wondered why Lewis Hamilton complains about tires after 50 miles while your tires can do over 50,000? How can road tires and F1 tires be so different? In this episode we dive into the the high stresses an F1 tire needs to withstand, the difference in the chemical composition of tires, and the incredibly precise engineering that goes into one of Formula 1's most controversial subjects, tire failure. If you like the smell of burnt rubber in the morning, this video is for you!
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  • @rick8048
    @rick8048 Před 3 lety +17409

    This guy knows alot about our moms van.

    • @ESQJordan
      @ESQJordan Před 3 lety +686

      For real bruh I’m getting scared he might know my mom

    • @CPalacios
      @CPalacios Před 3 lety +106

      👀

    • @AGamer075
      @AGamer075 Před 3 lety +110

      My mom doesn't have a van lol.

    • @MaudsValentine
      @MaudsValentine Před 3 lety +444

      @@AGamer075 that's what you think 👀

    • @AGamer075
      @AGamer075 Před 3 lety +35

      @@MaudsValentine Okay

  • @marthinneillapoimichael2495
    @marthinneillapoimichael2495 Před 3 lety +4394

    50 miles: Ok
    51 miles: *"Bono my tyres are gone"*

  • @thesilentsk3471
    @thesilentsk3471 Před 3 lety +1293

    Donut: Why do F1 tires last 50 laps?
    Sergio Perez: Hold my Red Bull

    • @GrimReaper-lo1ut
      @GrimReaper-lo1ut Před 2 lety +15

      Miles*

    • @poyrikkanal
      @poyrikkanal Před rokem +8

      @@GrimReaper-lo1ut when the miles are calculated it gets to around 150 miles as far as I’m aware

  • @Kipzo
    @Kipzo Před 3 lety +1714

    Sergio Perez must be laughing while watching this

    • @kvr_adventure940
      @kvr_adventure940 Před 3 lety +60

      @@everydayalbertan768 have u even seen this video? xD

    • @trigger8152
      @trigger8152 Před 2 lety

      I mean after today he might be 😂

    • @x_skelly_x1275
      @x_skelly_x1275 Před 2 lety +25

      @@everydayalbertan768 it just depends on the tires used he doesn’t mean the tire can’t get past 50 miles. If you watched the video you’d probably be able to notice that there were two processes that affect the tire mainly

    • @fadinqmoonlight5376
      @fadinqmoonlight5376 Před 2 lety +12

      @@everydayalbertan768 They do have knowledge. He was talking about F1 Super Soft Tyres. They don't last more than 50 miles.
      Other compounds like medium and hard tyres are DESIGNED to be more durable, but sacrifice grip. Medium is the balance between hard and super soft so they have the characteristics of both.

    • @Lol-kf4gd
      @Lol-kf4gd Před 2 lety

      @@fadinqmoonlight5376 true , each tyre has many different of chemical compound

  • @zin6749
    @zin6749 Před 3 lety +2000

    Tire: _explodes_
    Engineers: "I believe you have my property"

    • @moniker8391
      @moniker8391 Před 3 lety +32

      Correction: pirelli engineers.

    • @zin6749
      @zin6749 Před 3 lety +14

      @@moniker8391 Did you not watch the video? Other tire companies have worked with F1.

    • @moniker8391
      @moniker8391 Před 3 lety +18

      @@zin6749 Max Verstappen "who's that in front of me there drifting pretty nicely."

    • @moniker8391
      @moniker8391 Před 3 lety +7

      @@zin6749 also 2005 us Grand Prix.

    • @JoshuaPlays99
      @JoshuaPlays99 Před 3 lety +16

      @@zin6749 Do a bit more research, Pirelli keeps there compound VERY secret. They will literally go around the track after a race picking up rubber and collect rubber/tires from the teams. That's what he was referring to.

  • @FinalMix64
    @FinalMix64 Před 3 lety +2287

    Dr. Porsche used to say that "the perfect race car crosses the finish line in first place and then falls to pieces.” Never knew that applied to tires as well.

    • @mtekleel
      @mtekleel Před 3 lety +23

      You mean Ferdinand Porsche?

    • @geemy9675
      @geemy9675 Před 3 lety +64

      well this is the best engineering. makes sense although accounting for inevitable random factor, the car could very well fall to pieces right before the finish line on the next race.
      but here we're not talking about engineering to get the best performance but the opposite. force performance degradation by some rules. sounds like having tires that could last a whole race would not make it much slower and could allow more strategies. plus making engineering work towards improving tires instead of artificially reducing longevity. right now electric racing class sound more exciting regarding to the real-life improvements they could eventually bring

    • @kuebby
      @kuebby Před 3 lety +74

      It all makes sense now! German car companies just look at the warranty as a race!

    • @wowfreaker
      @wowfreaker Před 3 lety +11

      True, wheb porsche used to race their aluminum frame would last one race and they had to replace it because of fatigue and cracks. The spaceframe wighed 60kgs.

    • @wowfreaker
      @wowfreaker Před 3 lety +10

      Also, it was filled with gas so they knew when it was leaking somewhere

  • @zaynsadiq5536
    @zaynsadiq5536 Před 3 lety +2282

    Who's here after Perez done 53 laps on medium tyres at portimao?

    • @NORIN_50
      @NORIN_50 Před 3 lety +309

      Since the track is 2.89 miles long, that means he drove at least 153 miles on those tires

    • @Cubetuber
      @Cubetuber Před 3 lety +81

      @@NORIN_50 oh my god I didn't even think of that

    • @dangerducky9466
      @dangerducky9466 Před 3 lety +19

      @@NORIN_50 jezus cgrist

    • @akshatshxrma
      @akshatshxrma Před 3 lety +11

      did he win?

    • @Cubetuber
      @Cubetuber Před 3 lety +25

      @@akshatshxrma nope

  • @todd2846
    @todd2846 Před 3 lety +766

    When f1 switched to Pireli for tyres, Pireli said that they could make a tyre that lasts a whole season but to make races interesting they make the tyres to only last a short amount of time.

    • @mortisCZ
      @mortisCZ Před 3 lety +118

      I'm not sure about a whole season for softies but I wouldn't doubt 300-400 miles with very similar grip.

    • @todd2846
      @todd2846 Před 3 lety +78

      @@mortisCZ I was just quoting what Pireli said, they didn’t specify what type of tyre.

    • @sashingopaul3111
      @sashingopaul3111 Před 3 lety +9

      @BajofBull probably takes too long to get up to temp and could not be very fast in race pace.

    • @murderdoggg
      @murderdoggg Před 3 lety +21

      Tires that last the whole season. F1 would make them carry a spare, and rotate it in twice a race.

    • @draggy6544
      @draggy6544 Před 2 lety +55

      I mean it was never a secret that f1 tire are made to degrade on purpose

  • @Josmersuero
    @Josmersuero Před 3 lety +2409

    ''F1 Tires only last 50 Miles''
    Checo Perez: **They what?**

    • @user-ov2fc5sd1e
      @user-ov2fc5sd1e Před 3 lety +13

      They last only 50 Miles.

    • @fujisan5781
      @fujisan5781 Před 3 lety +102

      @@user-ov2fc5sd1e The top 6 drivers in Abu Dhabi all were capable of racing 45 laps on hard tires. Way more than 50 miles.

    • @KudosK42
      @KudosK42 Před 3 lety +10

      Bro why "They What" meme on a sentence that doesn't have a speaker.

    • @The4syyth
      @The4syyth Před 3 lety +12

      @@user-ov2fc5sd1e *sigh* noob, i only last 3 minutes.

    • @matthewmorgan582
      @matthewmorgan582 Před 3 lety +10

      @@fujisan5781 Depends on the hardness. Endurance tires are less built for 5-6 laps and more built for 50-60.

  • @whatincarnation95
    @whatincarnation95 Před 3 lety +3154

    Alternative Title: "Bono, why are my tires gone"

  • @Tommy-zl6yj
    @Tommy-zl6yj Před 3 lety +665

    Sergio Perez: “Challenge Accepted”

  • @Diego-md3ve
    @Diego-md3ve Před 3 lety +91

    And Checo Pérez took that personally by doing 53 laps on medium tyres on Portimão

  • @liquid74
    @liquid74 Před 3 lety +824

    "If the FIA just let them race"
    words as old as F1

    • @justmatto3940
      @justmatto3940 Před 3 lety +7

      Underrated

    • @Executor009
      @Executor009 Před 3 lety +5

      In the Nordschleife plz.

    • @aslamnurfikri7640
      @aslamnurfikri7640 Před 3 lety +13

      In other words, 2005 regulations

    • @terminhaider9695
      @terminhaider9695 Před 3 lety +19

      I'm somewhat new to F1 so at first hearing some of the things FiA does to "keep races exciting" makes sense to me, but I'm also sure how stupid difficult it makes it for Pirelli to predetermine how quickly a tire should wear depending on its compound compared to other compounds, but to me the fact that they pull that off to begin with astounds me even if it costs billions of dollars. It feels as impressive to me as the first moon landing was back then lmao

    • @zachlee7945
      @zachlee7945 Před 3 lety +4

      @@Executor009 the racing would be garbage 😂

  • @MsPaganini10
    @MsPaganini10 Před 3 lety +2570

    49 miles: we are alright
    50 miles: *we are entering the danger zone*

    • @mknightb698
      @mknightb698 Před 3 lety +88

      51 miles
      Tires: * coughs*
      Lewis: Bono, I think my tires are gone

    • @thedogethatgames
      @thedogethatgames Před 3 lety +27

      51 miles: F*** go back GO BACK!

    • @unexpectedgouf5225
      @unexpectedgouf5225 Před 3 lety +14

      52 Miles: *I said GO BACK!*

    • @liynne
      @liynne Před 2 lety +16

      @@unexpectedgouf5225 53 miles: *checo giggling intensifies*

    • @RblxFighter69420
      @RblxFighter69420 Před 2 lety +13

      54 miles: Mr Bono, I don’t feel so good

  • @oliverslater3111
    @oliverslater3111 Před 3 lety +153

    "F1 Tires only last 50 Miles''
    F1 drivers: do 50 laps on one set of tires around a 4-mile track

    • @robertobarrera5758
      @robertobarrera5758 Před 3 lety +4

      👁👅👁

    • @kokowic9494
      @kokowic9494 Před 3 lety +14

      Can't be. A F1 race is about 190miles long and if you drive 50 laps on a 4mile track that would be 200miles and they pit at least once at a race. But I also think they last longer than 50miles:D

    • @highoctanegames
      @highoctanegames Před 3 lety +1

      @@kokowic9494 Maybe around 75-100 miles but idk

    • @SadMarinersFan
      @SadMarinersFan Před 3 lety +1

      @@kokowic9494 they can last about 195 miles if you use the hardest available compound and don't push hard during the race, which is enough to last the entire race distance.

    • @blist8329
      @blist8329 Před 3 lety +2

      @@kokowic9494 there's literally FIA guidelines you can read You're very wrong The rules for a class one track which means F1 could ride on it Is anything in between 7 mi and 3 mi A 4 mile long track is 100% conceivable it's literally on the FIA rules

  • @NunyaBiznez17
    @NunyaBiznez17 Před 2 lety +78

    I literally know nothing about F1 racing or the tech that goes into it….but here I am at 3:00am listening to Jeremiah learn me up on the subject. A true testament to the quality of videos DonutMedia produces.
    Cheers, guys 🍻

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 Před rokem

      why only 50 miles cause if they were thicker that would make em heavier simple🤣

    • @hjuki1858
      @hjuki1858 Před měsícem

      3:40am

  • @billyrayvalentine7972
    @billyrayvalentine7972 Před 3 lety +231

    My tires just exploded.
    Ferrari... " Yes we are checking. Keep driving "

  • @ninexf
    @ninexf Před 3 lety +2985

    "as the only thing between the car and the road"
    stance boys: pathetic

    • @Ezekiel903
      @Ezekiel903 Před 3 lety +53

      it seems incredible all the criteria Pirelli or every other F1 Tyre manufacturer has to follow, Soft tire Baseline, medium has to be 1.2 sec. quicker then a hard tire, the soft has to be 2.2 sec. quicker then the hard tire!?!?! foolish or not?? and this 2 sec. of degradation after 10% of the total race distance!! I mean it sounds like space technology 🙄🙄

    • @CowboyBluffBand
      @CowboyBluffBand Před 3 lety +17

      Top tier comment 👌🏻😂

    • @dionshtraza6907
      @dionshtraza6907 Před 3 lety +37

      @@Ezekiel903 pretty off topic but yea

    • @Natd0gsef
      @Natd0gsef Před 3 lety

      That's so true though

    • @ryanborax7851
      @ryanborax7851 Před 3 lety +3

      @Dank wise lol, yeah

  • @sylvesterwolfs8032
    @sylvesterwolfs8032 Před 3 lety +85

    You could easily drive to Disneyland and back with one set of tires, they don’t wear that much when you just drive in a straight line

  • @therandomguy2441
    @therandomguy2441 Před 2 lety +74

    16:26 YES it does. Undercut and overcut strategies go a long way in determining who wins the race. Pitstop timing will also come into play. When safety cars pull up, that's an opportunity for the racers and teams to change their strategy to get the optimum tire for the rest of the race. Weather changes like rain and dry also play a huge role in determining what tire strategy they are willing to choose.
    This opens up the grid and allows even the slower cars to race with the faster ones if they have proper strategy. They could do an undercut and get a harder compound to last the entire race, and in that way then can try and fend off the faster cars behind them at the end of the race, and if they can do that, that will be an amazing result and an amazing showcase of racing skills. And if you're in a faster car, you can do an overcut and pit in a bit later than others so that you can get into a softer compound for the rest of the race and chase every one up the field. And if you win the race doing that, it would also be an amazing result and showcase of racing skills. All these factors create opportunities for the entire grid to race with each other, and allows for unusual results, which makes it exciting.

    • @mattiananni242
      @mattiananni242 Před 2 lety +3

      True

    • @fenris4045
      @fenris4045 Před 2 lety +3

      agreed!

    • @pedrogentil5243
      @pedrogentil5243 Před rokem +1

      im not a super fan of F1 but i play online racing games, and winning bc i made a better tyre strategy even if my car wanst the best is HELLA FUN

  • @TBrady
    @TBrady Před 3 lety +576

    "Tire degradation happens in two ways. First slowly, then, immediately"

  • @gammaraider
    @gammaraider Před 3 lety +497

    FIA: You can have only 2 mm of tread on your tires
    Also FIA: Y'all gotta reduce downforce cause tires wear out too quick

    • @xeakpress2718
      @xeakpress2718 Před 3 lety +2

      Its callled covid 19 have you heard of it?

    • @Lyuze
      @Lyuze Před 3 lety +20

      Pretty sure the aero change is for dirty air, but 👌

    • @spiffytuber7515
      @spiffytuber7515 Před 3 lety +46

      @@xeakpress2718 COVID has nothing to do with reducing downforce, they restricted the INCREASE of downforce to restrict the teams from spending more money. The Reduction in downforce was due to tire concerns for next year.

    • @pepperjackchese7374
      @pepperjackchese7374 Před 3 lety +19

      @@xeakpress2718 the fuck does covid have to do with downforce and tread thickness

    • @gnad69
      @gnad69 Před 3 lety +10

      @@pepperjackchese7374 ur tires are about to catch covid and lose all of its pressure due to the symptoms. Covid will also infiltrate the storage area, and make all of the other tires deflate to.

  • @lucaguarnieri8807
    @lucaguarnieri8807 Před 3 lety +8

    It's great to hear someone talking about Pirelli drawing the shortest draw. When other companies had the monopoly on tyres, like Goodyear in the '90s, they just put out the best tyres they could. Or, at the very least, a good tyre (like when they were forced to make grooved tyres). When Pirelli got the contract, they were forced to accept absurd rules, created by the FIA with no real need. Like "make the tire last only X laps! it will be more fun!" or "hey, next year we are increasing downforce and power, so you have to provide a new tire, that will degrade in X laps. But with no testing at all! It would be costly. And we want this to be a surprise for everyone! This will surely increase the spectacle with no risk at all!" (Silverstone 2013). Frankly, i'm surprised Pirelli is still in F1. Being in F1 has only damaged their reputation, and (largely) not by their fault.

  • @dat1elite981
    @dat1elite981 Před 3 lety +125

    I almost thought the your mom jokes were intentional, but when he kept doing I realized it actually was just a comparison.

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      @stinkymart3173 Před 3 lety +7

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    • @edgy_username
      @edgy_username Před 2 lety

      It can be both lol

  • @ashishpradhan636
    @ashishpradhan636 Před 3 lety +1346

    F1: **Has a 50 Mile limit**
    Lewis Hamilton: I'm gonna pretend I
    didn't see that

  • @alexandercotman2553
    @alexandercotman2553 Před 3 lety +726

    Lewis going Lightning McQueen mode at Silverstone crossing the line on three wheels lol

    • @wotwott2319
      @wotwott2319 Před 3 lety +33

      There was even a possibility that he'd cross the line on 2 wheels too because his other front wheel was about to burst on the last corner.

    • @alexandercotman2553
      @alexandercotman2553 Před 3 lety +21

      @@wotwott2319 really would’ve been like Cars at that point

    • @anandpushkar7510
      @anandpushkar7510 Před 3 lety +7

      Off course he somehow wins that and every other race ,I really hope someone challenges Mercedes for title next year, Even if merc wins atleast they actually fought for it and there was susupense unlike 2015,16,17,19,20

    • @angryyoungman4389
      @angryyoungman4389 Před 3 lety +8

      I can't imagine how Lightining McQueen and his GF managed to do Baby Cars... Is there a Hospital or a Showroom!

    • @lukestreet8473
      @lukestreet8473 Před 3 lety +2

      Ain't no pit stops for you big boi

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    @trigger8152 Před 2 lety +40

    I like how this showed up after the race in Baku 😂

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    WOW..... Still relevant today (after two blowouts at the Baku grand prix 2021.) Keep up the good work!

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  • @jony1710
    @jony1710 Před 2 lety +46

    I like the pit strats introduced by the high degradation. It makes it rather exciting when two race leader is on different strategy and you have 2nd place on the fresh soft tyres setting fastest laps trying to close the gap to the guy in front.

    • @raven4k998
      @raven4k998 Před rokem

      and yes that lack of groovy treads is why when f1 cars hit any water on the road they slide out of control without fail

  • @codypieper728
    @codypieper728 Před 2 lety +2

    This was a brilliant video. Complex stuff made simple, a few jokes, good audio and great host. Glad I subscribed!

  • @IndyF1FanMarquis
    @IndyF1FanMarquis Před 3 lety +620

    The FIA tried "just letting them race" in 2005 when tire changes were banned, and the show was horrible. Passing was affected because the tires had to be made harder to last through qualifying, plus the entire race the next day. This led to less passing and risk taking, as drivers would be more worried about looking after their tires than going for opportunities.

    • @misdemeanor61
      @misdemeanor61 Před 3 lety +58

      And led the the dumpster fire that was the 2005 US Grand Prix where only 6 cars started because they were using Firestone tires that could last the whole race and the others were using Michelin tires that couldn't handle the high speed banked turn at the Indianapolis Speedway.
      It's a really big blemish on f1 especially here in the states.

    • @ViolentMLG
      @ViolentMLG Před 3 lety +58

      Not an F1 watcher, but tire changes being banned isn't the same as allowing people to build better tires from what I understand.
      Nobody said F1 should ban tires, simply just allow them to engineer better tires for races without stops. It seems the technology exist, without the compromises you listed. IE, engineer a good tire but instead of it being 50 miles, let it be 100 or 200. If they can do it, then I seen no issue.
      Also, if they allow tire changes, if someone blows out, they can simply replace it. Obviously I'm not sure how that would impact race times, but you wouldn't have to be 'conservative' out of fear of blowing out.
      Now obviously with any change comes a shift in how the game is played, but I don't think it sounds like there is a downside that would result like the one you're listing.
      Seems like you're comparing 2 different scenarios.
      1; Where racers had to make a tire last the entire race and drove fearfully.
      and,
      2; Where people are asking them to allow for tires to be engineered to last longer, since there is 0 compromises and 50 miles is more dangerous than 100 for example.

    • @lokeychomusuke
      @lokeychomusuke Před 3 lety +13

      @@ViolentMLG the way the the current cars are built do not allow for easy passing as a trailing car loses massive amounts of downforce as they are trailing the leading car due to the way the aero in the cars work. This means that pit stops can deal a huge blow as other cars pass you while you are in the pits and now you have to drive harder to be able to pass and regain the positions lost. If tires are made to last an entire race, the drivers are just going to babysit their tires and simply defend their track position rather than try to overtake

    • @jkljkl218
      @jkljkl218 Před 3 lety +9

      @@lokeychomusuke But if the tires were made to last the entire race, or even just a bit longer, wouldn't thay allow for a fight to the finish with every single car going all out? It seems like it'd be entertaining to watch.
      Same tyres/tires = no more babysitting and mainly focus on being first? If a tyre lasts the whole race, why babysit it? Go all out and keep as much distance as possible and race as best you can and try to keep P1.
      Like Violent said, 2 different scenarios.

    • @ImReverseGiraffe
      @ImReverseGiraffe Před 3 lety +12

      @@misdemeanor61 that's only because the surface on Indy went through a process called "diamond grinding" where they grind off the top uneven layer of asphalt and put in little grooves that run parallel to the track to help with rain water and oil and stuff. Bridgestone had data on the track after its resurfacing through their Firestone branch that ran in IndyCar series at Indy unlike Michelin. F1 had a rule at the time that didn't allow testing for the tyres so Michelin was completely in the dark about how their tyres would react to the new surface while Bridgestone knew exactly how to build their tyres.

  • @ehyme56
    @ehyme56 Před 3 lety +103

    I'm glad Donut finally acknowledged that most of their fan-base still drives their Mom's minivan.

    • @mr.randomgamer888
      @mr.randomgamer888 Před 3 lety +3

      It may be my mom's but it's a sedan so HAH, I AM ON THE TOP OF THIS LADDER

    • @FlatBunny360
      @FlatBunny360 Před 3 lety

      Or when I turned 20 I got a minivan to turn into a sleeper

    • @Edelhif
      @Edelhif Před 3 lety +1

      I'm a dad myself and it's a wagon, but man, I still feel like it applies to me as well....

    • @ehyme56
      @ehyme56 Před 3 lety

      @@Edelhif I'm in the exact same boat

  • @zakeller
    @zakeller Před 3 lety +11

    You guys have the absolute best sponsor-segment game. Not only is it usually entertaining; but your editors are decent enough to give the little progress bar at the bottom so I can know how much to skip if I’m just super not into it. THANK YOU!!

  • @goravatreya
    @goravatreya Před 2 lety +7

    This video hits different after Baku 2021😬 Pirelli whatcha doin?

  • @johnsonboy
    @johnsonboy Před 3 lety +804

    This new sponsor suspicously sounds a lot like "Better call Saul!"

    • @SurajBHegde
      @SurajBHegde Před 3 lety +6

      Right???

    • @santeriairaksinen398
      @santeriairaksinen398 Před 3 lety +2

      And the effect might be same resulting in more dui:s and all that

    • @novai6554
      @novai6554 Před 3 lety +17

      Did you know that you have rights? The constitution says you do, and so do I

    • @maxxsteele11
      @maxxsteele11 Před 3 lety +6

      It's all good man!

    • @johnsonboy
      @johnsonboy Před 3 lety +2

      @@maxxsteele11 I Saul(saw) what you did there

  • @EmanHowells
    @EmanHowells Před 3 lety +177

    Also Lewis: "I have no grip"
    Bono: "ahhh Lewis you just got fastest lap"

  • @zeng7718
    @zeng7718 Před 3 lety +21

    this was the only time I’ve havent skipped through an add in a video

  • @PraiseJesusChrist2024
    @PraiseJesusChrist2024 Před 3 lety +14

    The paid promotion bit felt like I was watching interdimensional cable or some shit I loved it

  • @oscars665
    @oscars665 Před 3 lety +1249

    As a tire guy, Pirelli employee and F1 fan I must say this is a very well done video, well researched and very well explained. Good job. If interested, I could facilitate a plan visit to one of our production plants in NA or the EU, congrats!

  • @SheldyxSheld
    @SheldyxSheld Před 3 lety +437

    The CEO of pirelli said that they could even make tires that would last a whole season but they dont bc of the FIA

    • @Ihaveanamenowtaken
      @Ihaveanamenowtaken Před 3 lety +5

      Yeah, I remember Paul Hembery say that.

    • @joeyknight8272
      @joeyknight8272 Před 3 lety +2

      Wow

    • @charlieguzman5509
      @charlieguzman5509 Před 3 lety +31

      The compound would probably be as hard as a commuter car tire if it were to last that long

    • @Groesbeek1994
      @Groesbeek1994 Před 3 lety +20

      @@charlieguzman5509 nope. just more mm of tread

    • @rice5827
      @rice5827 Před 3 lety +30

      @@Groesbeek1994 EXTRA THICC tread

  • @chaselettvenuk9051
    @chaselettvenuk9051 Před 3 lety +1

    Hey Finn, awesome content. Thanks for keeping it up!

  • @ammarD
    @ammarD Před 2 lety +4

    who's here after albon drove 57 laps on hards in melbourne?

  • @nerosavageful
    @nerosavageful Před 3 lety +926

    I should be offended for how much he talked about my mom.

  • @TechDove
    @TechDove Před 3 lety +256

    The tires on my Camaro when I was 17 only lasted 50 minutes 💨💨💨

    • @Not_A_Cat
      @Not_A_Cat Před 3 lety +68

      Smoke tyres, not meth.
      Just as expensive it turns out.

    • @treebeard9461
      @treebeard9461 Před 3 lety +7

      What year Camaro 😂

    • @TechDove
      @TechDove Před 3 lety +4

      @@treebeard9461 1995

    • @Natd0gsef
      @Natd0gsef Před 3 lety +2

      That's probably going to be the same story foe me when I get a mustang and like 2 years

    • @Natd0gsef
      @Natd0gsef Před 3 lety +4

      @@TechDove catfish Camaro nice taste

  • @DaOneAndOnlyKDubb
    @DaOneAndOnlyKDubb Před 3 lety +1

    Dude...I have to admit. That was the most intuitive post I’ve seen on Dounut. Good job!!!

  • @watema3381
    @watema3381 Před 3 lety +57

    49 miles: saef
    50 miles: dangr
    51 miles: deaf

  • @yvan2218
    @yvan2218 Před 3 lety +350

    Can you please add metric measurements even as subtitles next time, i cant estimate how much these values mean without pausing the video and converting it on a calculator

    • @matthewdorricott4514
      @matthewdorricott4514 Před 3 lety +23

      I agree.
      Even just say tonnes instead of pounds is so much easier to convert on the fly.

    • @ChannelZeroOne
      @ChannelZeroOne Před 3 lety +10

      @@matthewdorricott4514 2200 pounds is a ton

    • @lignesdefuite
      @lignesdefuite Před 3 lety +18

      In Canada, people use a mix, and we're next to the US, so I got used to doing half-assed conversions like these:
      Miles to kilometers conversion: divide by 3, multiply by two. (Gets you 1.5 km, add a tenth if that matters)
      Pounds to kilograms: divide by 2 (and subtract a tenth.)
      Gallons to Litres: Divide by 4

    • @jebesinsane9986
      @jebesinsane9986 Před 3 lety +7

      be American we unfortunately know both. but that would be a good idea for our car boys on the out side actually

    • @juan_valdez117
      @juan_valdez117 Před 3 lety +3

      @@lignesdefuite a liter is a quart? huh i didnt know imperial system is retarded though

  • @chomin3025
    @chomin3025 Před 3 lety +456

    "Why an F1 tire only last 50 miles"
    me: 50 treadwear

    • @WorstPaperCut
      @WorstPaperCut Před 3 lety +4

      well that depends. if you put those slicks on a mini can thats stock. I can guarantee it will last longer. If you just drive with that thing slow then the power wont make it wear out. XDDXDX

    • @abstract0407
      @abstract0407 Před 3 lety

      Just let me race

    • @insomniacbritgaming1632
      @insomniacbritgaming1632 Před 3 lety +4

      @@WorstPaperCut a mini wouldn't get them hot enough so you'd have no grip anyway

    • @JamesBond-yp2hl
      @JamesBond-yp2hl Před 3 lety

      @@insomniacbritgaming1632
      ONLY 1 WAY TO FIND OUT!
      Donut should put F1 slicks and tireshine on a mini and see how it handles! 🤣😂😅
      I ONCE had a "friend" put tireshine on my FC turbo II Rear tires!
      Too much fun!
      *-James Bond*

  • @christales2788
    @christales2788 Před 3 lety

    Beautiful and super informative piece - cheers!

  • @reptileita
    @reptileita Před 3 lety +3

    6:35 imperial units overload

  • @emilwinbo1882
    @emilwinbo1882 Před 3 lety +221

    100% honestly never heard of the term "giving up"

    • @promethbastard
      @promethbastard Před 3 lety +26

      Commonly termed as "falling off the cliff"

    • @OriginalAustinOblivion
      @OriginalAustinOblivion Před 3 lety +8

      Linkin park "given up," Heard it millions of times. It's great.

    • @brianbethea3069
      @brianbethea3069 Před 3 lety +6

      When it comes to giving up, I'm your guy. What do you need to know? I got info on cutting yourself off from all of your social contacts because you embarassed yourself, dropping out of college, losing interest when things get hard, the whole kit and caboodle.

    • @GoldenDragoon
      @GoldenDragoon Před 3 lety

      @@brianbethea3069 I doubt you have the commitment to properly answer the question lol

    • @harry_balz-inall
      @harry_balz-inall Před 3 lety

      Common term used in racing. Only time I've heard the term when it comes to a tyre anyways.

  • @andyhart4703
    @andyhart4703 Před 3 lety +255

    Everytime you said “your mom” my subconscious was expecting a joke

  • @corpsecoder_nw6746
    @corpsecoder_nw6746 Před rokem +1

    Almost fully agree. 2005: no tire changes in pit stops, tires were grippy (very much so considering the straight grooves) and lasted the whole race. The only downside was Indy 2005, otherwise we had races like Japan, Canada, San Marino, Hungary where other strategy events and pure racing made it exciting.

  • @DeltaDS
    @DeltaDS Před 3 lety +1

    pit strategy makes races massively exciting. especially when it comes to circuits like monaco, where passing is almost impossible, without pitstops the racing would be dull

  • @lapharge64
    @lapharge64 Před 3 lety +502

    A game: take a shot every time he says “your mom’s minivan”

    • @joeyknight8272
      @joeyknight8272 Před 3 lety +19

      Are you like trying to kill people?

    • @nolongerusing7430
      @nolongerusing7430 Před 3 lety +3

      Take it further and play this while driving. Everytime he says "your mom's minivan," use a shot of NOS if you have any installed.

    • @user-ov2fc5sd1e
      @user-ov2fc5sd1e Před 3 lety +4

      @@nolongerusing7430 I prefer inhaling it.

    • @bossilays_i
      @bossilays_i Před 3 lety

      @@user-ov2fc5sd1e speed: 180++

    • @thecoolguy9364
      @thecoolguy9364 Před 3 lety

      @@user-ov2fc5sd1e +250% speed

  • @martinriesco_
    @martinriesco_ Před 3 lety +445

    50 miles? * laughs in hamilton’s hard tyres *

  • @peachbunns
    @peachbunns Před 3 lety +30

    Did you just call it "Corpse Corner"? :O

    • @tombystander
      @tombystander Před 2 lety

      I had to scroll way too far to find this comment.

  • @azteco
    @azteco Před 11 měsíci

    so much info!!!! loved it!

  • @julianlieb929
    @julianlieb929 Před 3 lety +260

    For the international viewers (like me) you guys should definitely add metric measurements like meters, and °C for temperature. Thanks in advance!

    • @CountersteerGarage
      @CountersteerGarage Před 3 lety +45

      We only speak in Bud Lights per Bald Eagle over here, pal. Ask Siri to convert it for you pshhhhhh

    • @fatbadboy329
      @fatbadboy329 Před 3 lety +14

      Also, so much for 'fighting their independence' when they are the only country left using a monarch's body part for daily measurement. Should have named it the King's Foot, that would make all yanks ditch imperial in a heartbeat. Lmao.

    • @OriginalAustinOblivion
      @OriginalAustinOblivion Před 3 lety +4

      @@fatbadboy329 I, a Texan, only measure in time and fucks I give! 🤣 I convert both units thanks to cross country and their conversion rates are natural to me. Am I insane? Maybe???? But is it really that hard to know 3 conversion rates, you can slap into a calculator. I genuinely know the difference and think in terms of both units :D

    • @lukecowell7516
      @lukecowell7516 Před 3 lety +2

      @@CountersteerGarage you really drink that piss water

    • @SFSC
      @SFSC Před 3 lety +11

      But they use 9mm for school gatherings

  • @f1funnymoments397
    @f1funnymoments397 Před 3 lety +268

    Plankton: GIMEE THAT SECRET FORMULA.... i mean tire...

  • @bayunugraha5095
    @bayunugraha5095 Před 2 lety +4

    Can you guys do the analysis of Perez tyre management? Also, would be appreciated if we could see the conversion on your videos from MPH to KMH , cheers boys keep it up!

  • @ShanMichaelEscasio
    @ShanMichaelEscasio Před rokem

    Learned something new today. Thanks!

  • @nomaanhusain
    @nomaanhusain Před 3 lety +700

    all these American units bamboozled me.

    • @antshodgy434
      @antshodgy434 Před 3 lety +26

      Us>anyone else

    • @goose9246
      @goose9246 Před 3 lety +24

      @@antshodgy434 American supremacy 💪💪

    • @PU8698
      @PU8698 Před 3 lety +160

      Ikr? Why can't Americans adapt to use what basically the rest of the world uses, instead of the bullet velocity of an AR-15 in football fields per fahrenheit.

    • @recipoldinasty
      @recipoldinasty Před 3 lety +35

      @@antshodgy434 us= lnbreeding and debt

    • @recipoldinasty
      @recipoldinasty Před 3 lety +18

      @@goose9246 cringy chauvinism

  • @leosaffron222
    @leosaffron222 Před 3 lety +79

    Well dressed lawyer Jerry stumbling through his lines is the best shit

  • @dopeytripod
    @dopeytripod Před 2 lety +5

    thats TODAY'S question in the F1 world

  • @micahbuchheit1283
    @micahbuchheit1283 Před 3 lety

    Mom said you left your jacket in her van. My little brother is wearing it now. Thanks Bro !!
    Love the content of ALL THE DONUT VIDEOS!!

  • @ximarre5121
    @ximarre5121 Před 3 lety +78

    When the sponsor segment is so well done, that you don't even consider skipping it

  • @vik5435
    @vik5435 Před 3 lety +52

    Y’all should do a low rider as a next project car after the Miata, it would fit really well to get people back in the old school scene and understand the mechanics of what it takes to build one.

    • @binkleyme
      @binkleyme Před 3 lety +6

      No. Lol. A classic car, maybe. But ruining it woth hydraulics? Fuuuuuuuuuuuck no

    • @gavinearls2935
      @gavinearls2935 Před 3 lety +9

      @@binkleyme ruining? Nah just style, might not be yours but hardly ruining a car, only way to ruin a car is wrapping it around a tree

    • @jacksondevine3870
      @jacksondevine3870 Před 3 lety +3

      Yessssssss pleaseeeeew

    • @vik5435
      @vik5435 Před 3 lety +3

      @@binkleyme it’s popular where I’m from (LA) it would fit right in, hop in one and you’ll get the full experience and understand why people build them. they’re fun.

    • @merwyn.carrillos5224
      @merwyn.carrillos5224 Před 3 lety

      would be easy too as they are local to LA and the scene is huge. Miata was great because it was accessible to anyone. lowriders may be too niche. Cool spinoff idea though, like visit popular car scenes around the states/world.

  • @mlindelithaboncube7344

    Dude, I really like ur content... I'm usually lazy to comment or like, but u hv a way of making me hv the energy to at least do 1of those... Keep feeding me that dope content....

  • @abirahmed1465
    @abirahmed1465 Před 2 lety

    This a great channel, I am gnna stick to it for the next few days. I play f1 2020 with a console

  • @ryanoptekar7654
    @ryanoptekar7654 Před 3 lety +233

    Day 118 of asking James to do an uptospeed on himself
    Day 3 of asking James to do an uptospeed on top gear

  • @gamergod9182
    @gamergod9182 Před 3 lety +11

    I've seen enough 1-stint F2 sprint races to say, yes, tyre changes make things more exciting. It also emphazises the team aspect.

  • @CharlesBordy
    @CharlesBordy Před 7 měsíci +4

    Also, look man, last thing we need this season is Max not having to pit at least once.

  • @fridaycaliforniaa236
    @fridaycaliforniaa236 Před 3 lety +5

    In French, for "giving up" we use "cooking your tires" ^^ But it's pretty easy to understand why.

  • @ThatBeTheQuestion
    @ThatBeTheQuestion Před 3 lety +146

    Did Jeremiah really just pronounce "Copse" as corpse....? XD

  • @kiminodrinccc8905
    @kiminodrinccc8905 Před 3 lety +54

    As a F1 fan, this is the kind of content I wait for and aspire to see from one of my favourite channel

    • @TheCorington
      @TheCorington Před 3 lety +1

      as a f1 fan you should definitely know that the current spec tires are engineered to fail for entertainment
      Pirelli even said that themselves back in early 2010 when they wanted to make races more interesting and have more tire strategy rather than just fueling and sprinting to the end which was extremely popular in the 2000s and no overtaking. Tires back then lasted much longer
      There also is no more tire war so its not necessarily the best tech,
      The 2000s era tires were faster despite being grooved than todays tires.
      After 2005 us gp, having two tire manufacturers became such an issue that they went with one.

    • @umarraymond8499
      @umarraymond8499 Před 3 lety +1

      @@TheCorington Hello 👏 trust you're doing well and staying safe?

    • @kiminodrinccc8905
      @kiminodrinccc8905 Před 3 lety

      @@TheCorington yes, even though i got into watching f1 this season, i know this kinda stuff....

    • @AlejandroLZuvic
      @AlejandroLZuvic Před 3 lety

      I love when Donut acknowledges the existence of F1, but then they say things like "it'd be better without pit stops"... Sorry what? Take out the pit stops and races would be even more boring LOL.
      They may understand the technical stuff but sure they still don't get the sport.

    • @odyseuszkoskiniotis6266
      @odyseuszkoskiniotis6266 Před 3 lety

      @@AlejandroLZuvicYou didn't understand what he said

  • @Rxbelson
    @Rxbelson Před 3 lety +94

    When you pay more attention to a lesson about f1 tire then school

    • @madzee8139
      @madzee8139 Před 3 lety +6

      *than

    • @JusMG559
      @JusMG559 Před 3 lety +16

      @@madzee8139 Didn’t you read his comment? He doesn’t pay much attention at school.

    • @brubrulani
      @brubrulani Před 3 lety +1

      tyre*

    • @prateekpanwar646
      @prateekpanwar646 Před 2 lety

      @@brubrulani Both are correct

    • @brubrulani
      @brubrulani Před 2 lety

      @@prateekpanwar646 no. American spelling is not right

  • @Aloyz3n
    @Aloyz3n Před rokem

    tire strategy is what firsy brought me to the sport, and races with higher degradation happen to be my favourite because leader will drop back a few places every time they pit, and the win contenders will try to outsmart each other, that's what gives us fun radio drama and mixes the grid during the race

  • @bcdgolf5681
    @bcdgolf5681 Před 3 lety +63

    The intern messed up and spelled "tread" as "thread" when it overlays on your face.

    • @minipineapple45
      @minipineapple45 Před 3 lety

      I didn’t even notice 😂

    • @kylewagoner
      @kylewagoner Před 3 lety +10

      Also repeatedly spelled 'braking" wrong.

    • @pieorion883
      @pieorion883 Před 3 lety +8

      And secconds

    • @rhynhardtk
      @rhynhardtk Před 3 lety +5

      And 'degradation'. Someone needs a copy editor.

    • @TNSign
      @TNSign Před 3 lety +6

      Pretty sure 'resistence' isn't a thing either.

  • @themarauder6108
    @themarauder6108 Před 3 lety +50

    High deg tyres were introduced to improve "the show" and mix up the grid.

    • @insomniacbritgaming1632
      @insomniacbritgaming1632 Před 3 lety +12

      Similar to the additives that some car manufacturers add to their steel to induce rust

    • @oliv3iraDan
      @oliv3iraDan Před 3 lety +3

      @@insomniacbritgaming1632 improving the show of life 👍

    • @Chiefmucka
      @Chiefmucka Před 3 lety +1

      @@insomniacbritgaming1632 lol

    • @Real28
      @Real28 Před 3 lety

      Yup. Us fans know how that worked out. It didn't.

  • @jakechimiak9626
    @jakechimiak9626 Před 3 lety

    I actually watched the ad I need this 🙌🏻

  • @justgrayyy105
    @justgrayyy105 Před 3 lety +5

    Little does this guy know that my
    Moms Expedition had Perellis...until the *tread* was almost bald 😎

  • @exa-roli3954
    @exa-roli3954 Před 3 lety +30

    There is a 305 km minimum race distance+they use the same set for 3 laps in quali and another warmup lap which are another 15-20km on the tire. 50 miles is easy for them as races are usually 1 stop.

    • @maceocapietto4090
      @maceocapietto4090 Před 3 lety

      Even one stop so they talk bullshit

    • @macsays2834
      @macsays2834 Před 3 lety

      So that’s 180 miles and let’s be honest there’s usually 2 stops if going full tilt on softs, if managing tyres to 1 stop they’re limiting performance and it’s track dependant, so 2 stops let’s say 60-70miles for arguments sake? 🤷‍♂️

    • @maceocapietto4090
      @maceocapietto4090 Před 3 lety +2

      @@macsays2834 70% of the time Hamilton wins on a 1 stop from medium to hard. The rest is pr soft medium to the end or medium hard soft for fastest lap. Maybe sometime a Soft hard if he didn’t manage to qualify with the mediums

    • @maceocapietto4090
      @maceocapietto4090 Před 3 lety

      @@macsays2834 F1 tires are made to wear fast but if you manage them well you can end up doing long stints belive me

    • @macsays2834
      @macsays2834 Před 3 lety +2

      @@maceocapietto4090 Hamilton is a different piece of the equation though let’s be fair, he pretty much runs in entirely clean air, has a superior chassis for most tracks, and is a demi-god at managing tyres..

  • @infusedj9498
    @infusedj9498 Před 3 lety +46

    off the record reminds me of the time i saw a guy get laughed out of a car group desperately trying to find a lawyer to take his case
    he was going 180kph in a school zone and nobody would dare touch that!!

  • @guybreakey1799
    @guybreakey1799 Před 3 lety +5

    Y is my man out here explaining long chain polymers better than my chemistry teacher?

  • @stanislavkolev5491
    @stanislavkolev5491 Před 2 lety +4

    Alex Albon doesn't agree

  • @anthxny3925
    @anthxny3925 Před 3 lety +78

    “tires can last 90k miles” me: owns a scatpack and has gone through 5 sets in 25k miles ):

    • @Hanibul_Lecktor
      @Hanibul_Lecktor Před 3 lety +6

      When the tread wear is more accurate how many miles you get lol

    • @uBetterRunFast
      @uBetterRunFast Před 3 lety +1

      @Captain MufDyven 😂

    • @lolsloppy
      @lolsloppy Před 3 lety +11

      Stop doing burnouts then lmao idk why dodge boys are so extra💀

    • @umarraymond8499
      @umarraymond8499 Před 3 lety

      @Captain MufDyven Hello 👏 How're you doing?

    • @user-ec6kt2fg7m
      @user-ec6kt2fg7m Před 3 lety

      Worse if you drive a dodge, you spend 85k miles coming out of the dealership.

  • @MistaSkilla692
    @MistaSkilla692 Před 3 lety +45

    "corpse corner"

    • @paulwallin5311
      @paulwallin5311 Před 3 lety +4

      Ah then it wasn’t only me that heard that. Had to go back and listen again 😂

    • @SlenderSmurf
      @SlenderSmurf Před 3 lety +3

      that line hurted me

  • @juniorfromthebando5907
    @juniorfromthebando5907 Před 3 lety +1

    6:14 felt that😔

  • @Destrixz
    @Destrixz Před rokem

    the only ad i would watch gladly every time i click on a different video
    so good

  • @plasma6593
    @plasma6593 Před 3 lety +143

    Lewis after one mile: ‘Bono my tires are gone i need to box’

    • @mauriciopekelis84
      @mauriciopekelis84 Před 3 lety +7

      New track record: Lewis Hamilton 10 seconds faster than everyone else

    • @ubirter
      @ubirter Před 3 lety +2

      Box box box

    • @rijuchakraborty5906
      @rijuchakraborty5906 Před 3 lety +1

      @@ubirter in in in in in in

    • @T0UGE.B0
      @T0UGE.B0 Před 3 lety

      Do you steal that from carnation🤦‍♂️

    • @davidjudd564
      @davidjudd564 Před 3 lety +3

      @@T0UGE.B0 ah yes, the most used phrase from the man himself, Lewis Hamilton is a stolen comment from Carnation. If you just listen to every team radio from Hamilton himself you'd hear him use the same line in every race

  • @dominickbergeron797
    @dominickbergeron797 Před 3 lety +161

    4.5g of lateral force. *Lewis laughing while pulling 5.9 lateral g’s in Mugello*

    • @lewisgilbertson7506
      @lewisgilbertson7506 Před 3 lety +4

      i didnt laugh

    • @lmao7439
      @lmao7439 Před 3 lety

      It's because car itself produces down force and it was tyres own down force

    • @Kasmuller
      @Kasmuller Před 3 lety +8

      @@lmao7439 the tyres produce minimal downforce.
      That's called mechanical grip.
      But tyres don't habe 4.5G's of mechanical grip

    • @lmao7439
      @lmao7439 Před 3 lety

      @@Kasmuller k man my bad

    • @Kasmuller
      @Kasmuller Před 3 lety

      @@lmao7439 well to be fair the video didn't make that very clear

  • @therealjoshuacaleb4873

    Learn something new everyday. Thanks Donut.

  • @luquwee5044
    @luquwee5044 Před 3 lety +5

    idk I think pit stops are a good thing, it helps keep low/mid field teams somewhat in the running if they gamble on the right strategy.

    • @Bigheadguyfromsmolmovie
      @Bigheadguyfromsmolmovie Před 2 lety

      Yea. Remember Germany 2019 where toro rosso and racing point gambled and ended up in 2nd and 4th

  • @camhoff5333
    @camhoff5333 Před 3 lety +20

    Pls keep going, more F1 content!!!

  • @juic3box312
    @juic3box312 Před 3 lety +38

    Unrelated, I just got an ad, during an ad. We're reaching the levels of ads we never thought possible.

    • @Ezekiel903
      @Ezekiel903 Před 3 lety

      install an AD Blocker, they are for free!! I have never any ad's when i watch youtube

    • @thepearsonfinest
      @thepearsonfinest Před 3 lety

      Adception

    • @furyofgungnir
      @furyofgungnir Před 3 lety +1

      On mobile I got an ad, then their in video ad, and then an ad right away after their in video ad. Must be Christmas.

    • @umarraymond8499
      @umarraymond8499 Před 3 lety

      @@furyofgungnir Hello 👏 trust you're doing well and staying safe?

  • @MurasakiToshiko
    @MurasakiToshiko Před 3 lety +12

    Every time he mentions "MY MOM" it feels like an insult...

  • @ohskunt_g3713
    @ohskunt_g3713 Před 3 lety

    Who knew I needed this information at 6 in the morning