Using questionable techniques to fix traffic in Mini Motorways!
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- čas přidán 7. 08. 2021
- This time I try some new techniques in Mini Motorways to try and get high scores. First I try using strategically placed roads to block buildings from spawning, then I go all out with UNLIMITED TRAFFIC LIGHTS in Mini Motorways and place them at every junction. From the makers of Mini Metro comes Mini Motorways! A highway engineering puzzle game and in this video I, a highway designer of 10 years, see if my real life engineering skills help me become better at the Mini Motorways puzzle game by segregating different colours to fix bad traffic!
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About Mini Motorways:
Have you ever been stuck in traffic and wished you could do something to fix it?
In Mini Motorways, the city’s traffic problems are in your hands.
From the makers of Mini Metro, Mini Motorways is a game about drawing the roads that drive a growing city. Build a road network, one road at a time, to create a bustling metropolis. Redesign your city to keep the traffic flowing, and carefully manage upgrades to meet the changing demands. How long can you keep the cities of the world moving?
Key Features
- Draw roads in dynamic cities that grow and change - every game is unique!
- Explore stunning maps inspired by cities all around the world.
- Choose from a variety of upgrades to meet the demands of your ever-expanding road network: highways, roundabouts, and more!
- Select different colour palettes on every map including colourblind and night modes.
- Relax to a responsive soundtrack from Disasterpeace that grows along with your city.
- Unlock new maps and achievements as you achieve mastery
- Export GIFs of your city layouts to share with your friends.
- Compete against other players in Daily and Weekly Challenges.
#realcivilengineer #minimotorways #engineering - Hry
As someone from Moscow, I can approve that this is exactly how our engineers constructed the city
First reply
Согласен
lmao
249 lie.. **250 likes and 2 replays let me change that
I don't believe you.
"I tried to be sensible."
+Puts a stop light on another driveway+
😂
@@joanasansano4107
Randomness makes Life Spicey,
so here you have some Random Request of mine:
Can you consider using the reportbutton as it
was once intended to? To help?
I mean, Reality has the Policephonenumber and youtube has
its r-button. Both exist for a reason - duh?
Many like to only report a Racist (f at all) the literal Second they
themselves are under verbal Attack from 1... thats... not very strategic though?
Hope you consider.
People are prone to looking away; and 2020/2021 has only writtled down people's spirit further... I hope you acan bring yourself to report some people, so YT can be without random verbal attacks for someone's S-Colour... or even favorite Cartoon?!? Yes, this last thing literally happens, too...
Sorry, I'm not a big Speechmaker, just some Guy who
had enough success with his idea to now ask people: Why not join?
I can give you a Tutorial!
The traffic lights are not bad if you use the properly! Such as by the entrance of a building if you've had to put in a junction there, but only in the later game.
@@willowtree6487 Indeed; but seen my comment, i wonder?
@@willowtree6487 Ok, but seen my comment?
RCE: Is a real traffic engineer
Also RCE: Makes a gridlock paradise by putting a traffic light on every single square in a densely trafficked area
Actually not a problem if you have the ability to synchronize multiple lights. Get all the east-wests flowing for a while, then the north-souths. But yeah, no sync and spaghetti roads, no.
@@josephcote6120 there is a way to sync by placing them in frozen time, no?
@@josephcote6120 You'd also have to sync the drivers the moment one person takes off late it causes a chain reaction ending in gridlock
Because journeys are determined by the pulls from shops, you can basically guarantee that with true perpendicular traffic flows, the traffic lights will eventually synchronize.
And if they synchronize and there's also leading capacity, one late or early person wouldn't bung it up anyways.
Yea as everyones commenting, traffic lights are actually good if you use them right, such as syncing them by placing them all in pause, but if theyre unsynced you end up with bigger jams
The game doesn't give you tiles wihle:
1. You've just placed a road (5 second buffer)
2. you're holding down the delete button
3. You just pressed the toggle button
It's so the game doesn't interrupt you when you're finessing some ideas
Yeah and if you don't get offered road tiles just click the clock twice, it'll realise that it needs to give you stuff
If this does not look like a game bug I do not know what does.
@@Rextuz I had that a few times and it offered me the tiles a few seconds later. Just wait a few secs.
The reason why it skipped doling out tiles on Moscow at the end of your run was because you were holding down the 'Delete Tiles' button.
If you hold down either the 'Build' or 'Delete' functions through Sunday to Monday, then the game won't stop and give you your tiles.
It will, however, give them to you after you've released them for at least a second; so you can technically postpone your weekly allowance if you want.
If you didn't use them sarcastically, you might notice that traffic lights are better in the game than in real life, and roundabouts are worse than in reality. If a car gets a green light, then it can turn left through a solid line of oncoming traffic ignoring collision. If traffic is bad enough on a roundabout, then cars will stop in the circle to let others in, which should never happen. As far as the game's questionable physics is concerned, traffic lights are helpful because they decrease the stop sign effect of 4-way intersections as long as they aren't placed back to back everywhere.
Came here to write exactly this
There is also the right turn efficiency of traffic lights. Which speeds up the entire interception if cars dont turn left. Specially useful for T junctions
Even though in theory the in-game traffic lights are better than IRL and the roundabouts are worse, in practice the traffic lights just don't do enough in terms of increasing the throughput of traffic compared to the roundabouts. A traffic light (if used correctly) can make things a little smoother in a suburb so people can get in and out of their houses a little more efficiently, but it's never going to be a real difference maker. Not saying you should never pick them (almost always more useful than a 4th bridge), but you should almost never pick a traffic light over a roundabout.
weird how the roundabouts' and traffic lights' spots in the meta have swapped
@@Spookyhoobster lol. I would much rather have traffic lights than a roundabout. They are great for intersections of two separate colours to prevent blocks
Why is this the most satisfying game to watch
Lol so true
It's like kurzgesagt the game
Cause it's pretty
PowerWash Simulator: Am i a joke to you?
This is a weird episode to comment that
I love how he said traffic lights are terrible after putting them in places where they just messed everything up
Yeah, if he replaced that middle mess with a roundabout I think he'd have easily smashed his average
In my experience they're pretty much always worse than nothing for anything but abusing the speed increase they offer with dummy intersections.
@@Celene1312 also just maybe removing a couple traffic lights, not necessarily even needing a roundabout
@@Celene1312 actually not. roundabouts would just get locked the same way. His mistake (or rather what the game made him do) was to let too many paths crossed at the middle and so things got clogged up.
@@Celene1312 except for all of the Arthur Dents in the middle there.
I love how in the beginning RCE kept saying 6 by 6 spots when he wanted to say 3 by 2.
My brain itched so hard every time he said it xD
Was wondering how long it was gonna take before you started managing spawns.... Welcome to the dark side
Your username has me worried
@@aXYZGaming nothing unusual, kids on fire and shit, normal school day
I know its good and efficient but I don’t wanna use it cause it makes less fun bcs its so unrealistic and it is also annoying to always build and delete new stuff
@@monad_tcp let me guess, america?
@@pipitur4581 yep
You have to exit the edit mode (release right click) after you go into the next week to get the upgrades
Ahhh.... Interesting, thanks!
Ah, that makes sense! Thanks!
@@RealCivilEngineerGaming That being said, I think the devs do have a measure implemented to prevent this sort of cheese- I might be wrong, but I think that the demand as the game progresses is divided amongst the existing businesses, so I think if you don't allow enough to spawn, you can never meet the demand required to keep the game running.
@@gloryholetoanotherdimension Just look at top 1 runs, this strat works fine for hundred thousand plus points. edit: ofc you can't fully cheese it out, you gotta have a strat to use this strat... Stratception!!
@@gloryholetoanotherdimension demand is based on the size of the map, so if you force the zoom out by overcheesing for too long, you can end up with more demand than you have population to fill it.
The cheesing strat can work if you deliberately allow some areas to spawn.
Placing traffic lights at every intersection: "Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could, they didn’t stop to think if they should."
"I swear I did try to be sensible"
"This house needs traffic lights coming out of the garage"
Safety first!
as much as this is fun to watch...i kinda enjoy it more watching you play it legitimately....that just could be me but thats what i feel
Yeah, seeing him make efficient roads with random spawns is much more fun than seeing him constanly manage spawns.
Absolutely agree
I think the game needs two modes. One with whatever spawn system there is now, and one that follows stricter rules and sort of spawns a little more realistically to let nerds build actual satisfying networksn
@@BD-yl5mh I think there just needs to be a sequel with more expanded features. I imagine it would be pretty hard to actually balance "truly random" spawns that could overwrite roads.
tbh, this is still a legitimate way of playing the game. Controlling spawns has been in the game almost from the very beginning and is still in the game. There is nothing cheaty about it but to each their own.
I think they should add *right of way" routes where the main lane can always go before the crossing smaller lane. Like this you could also handle houses very well and they wouldn't be blocking main roads
Those are called "motorways"
@@CaTastrophy427 not really. You at least here in Germany there is a large difference between an "Autobahn" (Motorway) and a "Vorfahrtsstraße" (A street in which you have right of way, meaning that all incoming Traffic has to wait till they don't block any traffic on the main route) I would just like the possibility that the homes don't work like right before left because thag blocks the whole main route if you connect homes to it while Motorways (at least in the Game since, you can't build secondary connections to it ate just fast travel from a to b)
@@xNumbercrunsher In Britain we just have main roads and side roads. Looking at any T-Junction will tell you which is which. The "arms" of the T are always along the main road and they have right of way.
As an actual citizen of Moscow - can confirm, this 'questionable' road design lines up with reality
I've used roads to block the shops from spawning, and from what I've figured the game will always grow the number of trips required regardless of how many shops you have. So if you have 1 shop but the game wants 10 trips, that 1 shop is going to have to support the 10 trips; if you let a new shop spawn then both those shops will divide the load and only want 5 each.
In effect, blocking shops from spawning is a sort of 'hard-mode' for the game in where you're using your roads to block new shops while what few shops you do allow have incredibly high demands for trips to them.
Getting a Let's game it out vibes here
"Is there a limit?"
I would love to see him play this
Let's game it out would completely wreck this game until it submits to him. :D
Plot twist: This game is actually a huge ploy for a learning AI to factor in all incoming road construction ideas to later plot out real life roadways. The AI has decided from this gameplay that traffic lights should be placed outside of everyone’s doorstep
RCE: I'm gonna put traffic lights at every intersection
Me: Welcome to America
There's volume traffic lights, and there's timed traffic lights.
But it's in the whole continent of America, we love traffic lights here.
Hey! A good way to ease congestion within the same colour is to have a few houses going into each building, so if you have 6 houses and 2 supermarkets, you'll have smoother car flow if you have 3 houses for each supermarket instead of all 6 connected to both supermarkets
Yep. This game is the opposite of real life: segregate everyone and don't give them any choices.
_...but, but... the budget..._
Says the IRL traffic designer.
Damn it, the "You WHAT" made me laugh so loud. Thank you.
You ever had that experience where something amusing, but not THAT funny just catches you clean and you crack up for a solid ten minutes? The "Hello There" at 2:04 just made my day.
That "questionable technique" is pretty close to real Moscow tho lol
"Ah, how prettier Moscow has become under Sobyanin!", am I right?
Matt, someone had already tried to stop other houses and shops from spawning. It actually breaks the game and the one shop ends up getting more travel requests then available cars.
YOU MADE ME BUY THE GAME
…after I returned it
Found your channel through this game, bloody hell you're growing fast
I started watching at 20 k subs less then a year ago and it’s been insane growth
Seeing a real engineer playing a engineering game is oddly satisfying
Randomness makes Life Spicey,
so here you have some Random Request of mine:
Can you consider using the reportbutton as it
was once intended to? To help?
I mean, Reality has the Policephonenumber and youtube has
its r-button. Both exist for a reason - duh?
Many like to only report a Racist (f at all) the literal Second they
themselves are under verbal Attack from 1... thats... not very strategic though?
Hope you consider.
@@loturzelrestaurant what
Me hearing "Hello fellow engineers":
This, does put a smile on my face
Randomness makes Life Spicey,
so here you have some Random Request of mine:
Can you consider using the reportbutton as it
was once intended to? To help?
I mean, Reality has the Policephonenumber and youtube has
its r-button. Both exist for a reason - duh?
Many like to only report a Racist (f at all) the literal Second they
themselves are under verbal Attack from 1... thats... not very strategic though?
Hope you consider.
People are prone to looking away; and 2020/2021 has only writtled down people's spirit further... I hope you acan bring yourself to report some people, so YT can be without random verbal attacks for someone's S-Colour... or even favorite Cartoon?!? Yes, this last thing literally happens, too...
Sorry, I'm not a big Speechmaker, just some Guy who
had enough success with his idea to now ask people: Why not join?
I can give you a Tutorial!
@@loturzelrestaurant uh, what is this
In game traffic lights can help speed main routes at junctions with a quiet road. They create gaps by bunching local traffic, so they can move a little quicker after.
But roundabouts are simply better early game, using space helps then, while later on you often have no room
HydroPhil showed ultimate blocking in a video 😁
If your games went similarly, you score slowly but when the dam bursts, you cannot keep up due to massive demand.
I’ve been looking forward to this for days!
I watch your videos, becasue they ease my anxiety and help me sleep better, so I watch them before bed with a cuppa. Thank you for what you have done for me! Keep it up!
As a Mexican that lives on Mexico City, the weekly challenge is pretty accurate. Nice video!
Faltan más cines imax en la real tho
Yes cant wait to watch you play this game, Its like my stress reliever.
When he says 6x6, he means the 3x2 right?
engineer gamnig
@@dylanjackson7325 Everyone knows every number rounds when you're an engineer. It's why pi = 3.
@@raptorofwar4415 ahh makes sense; I dropped out of college for civil engineering...
@@raptorofwar4415 and π=e
I don’t play any of the games you have in the channel but I love to watch you playing and the narrative behind each choice lol
You can improve that a bit because malls don't directly spawn next to each other.
Where you need to have crossroads, try and stagger them, because cars slow down for 4-ways, but not for 3-ways unless their path is blocked.
"Peace, Love, and Bridges" First Mumbo and now you!
One of his older videos of him playing this game got recommended and now here I am. Addicted.
3:43
RCE: „Bridges won’t help a tool“
Thanks for clearing that up for me :)
I've tried this and I swear the game gets revenge by putting buildings and houses on opposite ends of the map so you have to pick up all the blocking roads to use them for regular roads. i do use the blocking when things start getting crowded.
I think you often avoid major restructuring on all your mini motorway videos, which is lovely from an engineering perspective.
I've watched way more of your videos than I'm willing to admit! Great channel
You're videos genuinely help me fall asleep. I can't sleep without something in the Background and these videos are always nice.
These videos made me try this and when it gets difficult I delete all the roads and try to configure it differently. But still pretty low on the leaderboards.
"People haven't done this before" ... this is exactly what people do to control spawns in this game and get scores in the 100 thousands XD
I don't know why but I am addicted to this series please keep uploading don't stop
That Mexico was actually kinda accurate we do have unnecesary trafic lights and love leaving trees in the middle of the road instead of removing them
8:49 Oh no, you didn't get any upgrades, because you kept the mouse button pressed. Afaik that is done to not interrupt you, when you are actually building roads. But the "missed" upgrade should pop up as soon as you release the button.
Whenever I see this game, it reminds me of watching ants crawl about just going about their day.
word of advice: it doesn't register the end of the week in terms of granting upgrades until you exit draw/erase/edit mode. this is why it didn't offer you an upgrade: you were holding right click the entire time so you could see the grid
9:15 The game will not give you any new tiles until you stopped right-clicking
This game made me realize, that Sunday is considered the first day of the week in parts of the english speaking world
what? but it's the last day of the week in-game.
@@empirecrumbles615 I just checked to verify. You always start on a sunday and get new tiles when it's turning from saturday to sunday. So that means, that the first day of the in-game week is a sunday and the last day of the in-game week is a saturday, but correct me if I'm wrong or I overlooked something.
edit: I first checked it on the Los Angelos map, but I just checked it on some other maps aswell.
A trick that I use is that I try and prevent a 4 way cross from happening by preventing spawns in certain locations and only putting traffic stops on a congested arterial that leads to a low traffic distributor road whilst also trying to make sure the traffic from the distributor road only wants to make right hand turns on to the arterial road. Its a headache but I can easily hit 3k without much effort and restructuring.
Can you make a video of this 👀
I just got my first 5k score and it was a headache
@@AllieHanichak I would love to but my computer is specs are very abysmal. My computer struggles to play games like terraria and starbound on minimal settings. The basic idea though is to block storefront spawns that are in non ideal locations and leave a space where you want it. Statistically if there is only one place to fit a store, it will put it there first instead of blocking it with a house. then its just a matter of not making 4 way stops. This will require a bit of knowledge about how big the map is when fully zoomed so you can try and get roads pre placed to make the arterial and the distributor roads. sorry if not well explained its currently 1am and I'm sleep deprived. xD
I've been binge watching these videos of yours and I've played this game before but I really suck at it! 😂 But watching you play makes me wanna get it on the Switch and just play it casually
I’m not even an engineer but I LOVE your content and this game
Title could also be “using Massachusetts roadways in mini motorways” 😆
Am I the only one who is OBSESSED with this series???
You`re probably not!
That part with Mexico City and the unbelievable traffic is the most accurate representation of reality
I love your videos. Keep up the good work💪🏻
Small tip for this strat: "markets" can't spawn right next to each other. :)
Not only markets. Houses don't spawn next to markets either. There's a default 1 square gap.
Traffic lights are there to moderate the road use to make it safe in terms of car accidents and pedestrians, two things not modeled in the game. So the only thing you actually get from them is the side effect - traffic jams.
So basically you get all of the downsides of traffic lights with none of the upsides.
They look neat though.
2:05 General Kenobi you are a bold one!
2:03 the "hello" made me turn around lol
As a Russian, I can say you would`ve absolutely loved Moscow, it´s literally a giant roundabout of pain
Hi dear Russian Bashnya.
Randomness makes Life Spicy,
so here you have some Random Request of mine:
Can you consider using the reportbutton as it
was once intended to? To help?
I mean, Reality has the Policephonenumber and youtube has
its r-button. Both exist for a reason - duh?
Many like to only report a Racist (f at all) the literal Second they
themselves are under verbal Attack from 1... thats... not very strategic though?
Hope you consider.
Honestly... People are prone to looking away; and 2020/2021 has only writtled down people's spirit further... I hope you acan bring yourself to report some people, so YT can be without random verbal attacks for someone's S-Colour... or even favorite Cartoon?!? Yes, this last thing literally happens, too...
Sorry, I'm not a big Speechmaker, just some Guy who
had enough success with his idea to now ask people: Why not join?
I can give you a Tutorial!
@@loturzelrestaurant yeah of course, I'll do it if I see anything :> I don't scroll through comments enough to come across anyone bieng hateful, or a creator, so I don't normally get to report anyone, but I will be happy to spread the idea
@@formerly_human Well,
with the help of the searchbar, they are easy to find, even if you dont have someone like me telling you Expert-Advice or such.
@@formerly_human Try it out.
For example, theres still dumb but not 'intense' s-ual entertainment in the form of that weird Russian Guy who became famous some Years ago for groping 1000 B-0-0-b-s.
He's easy to find on CZcams.
@@loturzelrestaurant Thanks! I'll try it. Wish you luck :]
I would love to see more of you properly playing Mini Motorways! I love your strategies and how you go about playing the game, so i hope you'll do more of those, although there are many "hacks" to prevent certain spawns, its just way more fun to watch a proper game, for me at least! :)
THANK YOU!!!!!! This is the strategy I was waiting for. Monocolour
Someone did it a bit ago and their conclusion is the unspawned businesses demands is added up to the existing ones. Which prevents this game of roadblocks 😂
I mean he got timers on week 2 so this is definitely whats going on
We MADE this game and this video is giving us anxiety.......
Hey! Can you please do a video on Frostpunk. I think it would be perfect for you.
I WAS HOPING SOMEONE WAS GOING TO TRY THIS THANK YOU!!!!!
The traffic lights straight out of the garages got me 😂😂
In my opinion, managing spawns may be the way to get high highscores, but it ruins the game for me. It becomes less about making efficient roads and more about constantly making sure nothing spawns, which isnt fun in my opinion.
I don’t really enjoy watching people cheese the game cause they always mess up at some point
Its a mechanic and it is technically not exploiting. The games been out for ages and the devs see it like that.
Glad to see a new video of this game!
Your on to the right idea. Block some locations to guide the spawns into your favor.
Fun fact: nobody has watched the full video yet
Shmichael probably has.
That was a fun fact alright 😁
True
I put the video on 2x speed
Yeah true
first
edit: third
No
yeah yeah whatever i was close
congratulations, you made an accurate simulation of mexico city's terrible traffic
thank you i have been waiting for this
Love all your vids! Glad I found your channel a few weeks ago.
I do have 1 request. When you play this game, can you leave your upgrade/parts bar locked Open at the bottom? I love these vids but knowing what extra parts (bridges/tunnels/etc) you have allows us (or maybe just me) to follow along a bit better.
That was very entertaining. Loving the content!
stopping spawning helps for a little while but eventually demand goes so crazy that the 1 supermarket can't process enough traffic and you lose, the demand is based on the amount of total houses from what I can tell, and so the more houses you have compared to supermarkets the more demand there is. So eventually you spawn so many houses that the 1 supermarket cant handle all that demand.
I have become addicted to mini metro and mini motorways.
Because of you.
I blame you.
For all the fun.
I’ve never been this early lmao. It’s 1:40am here in Australia and I should definitely sleep so I’m not dead for zoom classes BUT... real civil engineer uploads mini motorways therefore I stay awake. The obsession with these videos is real😅
8:39 not me looking at that exact spot thinking "MATT YOU'VE MISSED A SPOT" lmao
Damn your channel’s growing fast good for you man
You're smart, seen people doing much nastier Designs but overall occupying the space with diagonals (more efficient) is great!
Your voice is like a high energy Noel Fielding. I can’t explain it, but it makes me happy 🤷♂️
I've been doing the tile claim technique and I'm glad others are doing it too, just wish I made a video first lol
I saw a behind the scenes of sorts for this game, I think it was a TED talk, and in it, they mentioned that businesses have a 1-tile border around where no other business can spawn, to ensure that no business is ever made inaccessible by another, I don't know if that knowledge helps MUCH for this technique, but it might save a road tile here or there since you don't need to cover right next to an existing business
I feel awesome watching these as I'm not an engineer, i just like this game, and I've never played it
You made me buy this game and make me a addict to the game also
I bought the game in steam just because I've been binge-watching your channel for a week now.
You are so good at these videos
This is my favorite series
Love this series
I love how by the end the motorways form what looks like an anarchism A
I like the traffic light challenge. Your intersections have intersections.
The week wont end while holding the right mouse button. Gotta let that go after Sunday ticks over.