Circle lines are overpowered in Mini Metro!
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- čas přidán 3. 06. 2024
- This time I'm back in the train traffic management game Mini Metro, and this time I try to make the most of circular lines. I discover circle lines are overpowered in Mini Metro and the best way to get high scores in Mini Metro!
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There are twi things that are guaranteed to happen: The sun rising every morning and RCE finding a way to create the strongest shape in the world in EVERY game he plays.
🤷♂️
How do you define morning? Cus in the polar caps there 3-6 month long periods where the sun doesn't rise.
Nothing in this world can be said to be certain, except death and testes.
@@ghostderazgriz Morning is when it's going from dark to bright. So basically, there are still mornings, but not as many as let's say here in Germany.
He is an Engineer strongest shape is his job
6:24 I think that circle (the most common one) is residential area, triangle is shopping area and rare squares are industrial zones. Crosses are major hospitals, diamonds jewelry stores as you told, pentagons might be government buildings and rhombus are major rail stations. Rare rugby balls are stadiums. I have no idea for other shapes tho
Edit: official trailer shows that squares are actually offices
The star is a theater! They also all have their own specific notes for the soundtrack
I think the upside down drop could be a Museum
Circles generate a lot of passengers but don't receive many. Squares receive many but don't generate a lot. Triangles are balanced. The rest are unique: only one of each can appear.
The square represents a central buisness district.
it would make sense then if circles are housing and squares are employment centers
It is better to have trains in both directions on a circle line.
If all trains run in the same direction and a unique shape passangers spawns after the specific sation this pasanger has to travel the whole loop and therefor blocks a space in a train for a whole tour
This so much. I don't understand the logic behind him thinking sending them all the same direction was a good idea. Then again, if this is how highway engineers normally think, it would explain a lot about the highway and transit networks in my city.
@@AbsalomIndustries normally metros always go two ways in real life, mate
@@AbsalomIndustries I don't think he thought about it very long, the time pressure in this game can really get to you sometimes. One of the big tricks in my experience is not being afraid to completely rebuild the infrastructure after a certain point. The early game layouts rarely continue well into the later game, especially once you have several lines and a larger map and a few unique shapes. I think that's what really got him here. At the end when he got the orange line I could see him thinking about it some but at that point the congestion was so bad it would have been really difficult.
But will the passengers let a train pass by if it would be faster to get the next one in the opposite direction? If not then I think all trains going one way is better
@@graham1034 when I played the game they did let the long-way train pass to wait for the short-way train, but I don‘t know what the coding behind the game is
I'm pretty sure the insane top scores are the result of extreme micro managing. I've tried it myself a few times and it really improved my scores, but completely ruined the flow of the game, and made me feel that I was cheating.
The idea is, that you always keep a spare locomotive in stock, run the game for 5 seconds, pause, place the spare loco so that it arrives at whatever station is the most crowded, wait for it to pick up pax and unload them, then remove the loco, pause, check the map and find the new top-crowded station, place loco there and repeat over and over. Of course, you also build lines the normal way, but the main key is that spare loco and constant pausing.
After doing this for a few games, I decided that it completely removed the fun and created some personal high scores that I'd never be able to beat later, unless playing the same way, much like the unbeatable, still standing world records in athletics set in the 1980s and 1990s set with heavy use of doping, so I decided to stop playing that way.
I haven't watched the top scores yet but for example on google play the top scores are cheating, it's fairly easy to fake a score on there.
Yea I hate how you have to micromanage to a point where the game isn’t fun to get a highscore. That’s why I’ve been taking a liking to extreme mode because it’s pure skill, no fidgeting with lines and locos.
Yes it ruins the fun of the game, but conceptually, it can makes sense. Imagine it's just a taxi service the city can deploy on top of their normal metro lines.
The ending of your commemt made me think you were r/shittymorph but i aint even on reddit.
Online scoring systems for games like this are always packed at the top by cheaters. At the very least, I'd say the huge jumps between number 3 and 2 imply that the top two players cheated.
Loop lines should probably have at least have 2 trains on them, both facing opposite ways. It'd be weird to only be able to go one way around a loop.
All trains usually go both directions.
@@Adrsdzws Well, in mini metro, it doesn't do that automatically for you if you have a loop line.
A one-way loop at the end of a line would be even worse because if the trains went right, you'd have to go all the way down the line and back up to go left.
Highlight of my day. RCE being happy he inadvertently made a knob
Knob like in your pants?
Same bro
"inadvertently"
I love the level of detail in the game, where the lines are colored in the same order as they are irl in Barcelona.
Never played this game but it would probably be smart to rethink the specialty districts.
All of those unique districts put a strain on your system. Unidirectional lines mean that any passenger that enters after the district has to sit in the train for an entire round and having those districts only reachable through a single line puts strain on that line.
Basically you'd either want to connect all the neighboring lines to those districts or create a shuttle line with the sole purpose of increasing connectivity between distant lines and those specialty districts.
When I play I usually like to have a couple bi-directional loops with as many of the special shapes as (reasonably) possible, and a couple dedicated interchanges that all the other lines can use to get special passengers there, (usually 1 interchange 4-6 stops on the loop, and I try to put them on triangles or squares.)
You want those special stations to become the crosspoints of two lines, because if one line has special shapes, they wouldn’t have to transfer them to another line that way
Heyyy advice for this game:
It's okay to have 2 or 3 circles in a row.
There is only one or very few squares, but lots of square passengers. That needs to be your interchange and all of your lines should be connected to it.
Circles lines are not that good, so don't sacrifice tunnels just to make it a circle
yep. also make sure that every line has a station of each shape. the main reason why RCE died was because lines like the red, pink, and purple did not have any connection to the star station. so slowly star passengers start piling up, causing a station's capacity to permanently decrease
@@normalchannel2185 you don't have to have every line directly connected to every shape. They will change lines to get to where they need to go, but it does increase congestion at stations, especially the ones they use as an interchange. They'll also prioritize the shortest route I believe, which can mean skipping some trains or stations that would otherwise eventually get them there. But sometimes it's really not feasible to connect every line to every shape.
@@Red-Tower maybe
The unique shapes require two strategies.
First, they should become transit centers, fed by three or more lines. This way, passengers do not have to transfer, which means your stations do not trigger the timer as often.
Second, create a small circle line without any duplication which includes as many unique stations as possible, and which crosses as many other lines. Passengers will transfer, but this short speedy circle will clear more passengers.
6:40 yellow: strongest shape green: dog purple: mountain range red: a gun from splitgate
the osaka map is nice because of the bullet train. creates a different dynamic that other maps don't have
Near the end, you didn't need to connect every station to the line like the circle and triangles. You can skip them since they already have a line through them.
True, but that's not a bad thing: having more than one line going through one station also means that it will be visited by trains more often, thus reducing the chance of getting too crowded. Usually the stations that lose you the game are those on the edge of the map that are only visited by a single train once in a lifetime or those that you've ignored for too long and forgot to properly connect to the rest of your network
"I'm quite a fan of going all out on lines" Finally I know how this guy keeps motivation for videos
Wow, after so long. I still remember that my first video that I watched on your channel was Mini Motorways, and have followed every night at 9:45 since then. Love the content, just keep it going❤️
Hey if 9:45 , then you are also indian.
Nice to meet you bro. Love to see you here.
@@WelcomeToCJWorld That's correct, nice to meet you too... He really puts up great content, and he's one of the most sincerest youtubers when it comes to uploading content at time, every day. Love it ❤️
I'm Western European so for me it is at 6:00
Until today when I change my upload time 😅
@@RealCivilEngineerGaming dun dun dunnn
I think that it’s better to have trains going in opposite directions on a circle line because then, passengers can choose which route to take and can avoid going all the way around the line to go one stop backwards
What i like to do when i play mini metro is to make some lines radiating out from the square, it being the main hub of the system, and have outer ring lines providing connectivity so passengers don't have to go all the way into the city center (the square) to change trains
Challenge for RCE: No circle lines, no straight lines ... only knob shaped lines (once you get to around 5-6 stations ie enough to create a knob line)
I think 4 would do, one at the tip, one at the bottom of the balls, one where they meet and one at the other end of the shaft at the top. Obvs require lucky spawns but it should be possible!
idk if this happens in every city with a metro system, but being from Barcelona i love the fact the color of the lines follow the same order of the lines in the real life metro in here :D
I think they do mostly respect the real life colours, sometimes skipping some minor lines (for instance, for Paris, the 3 bis and 7 bis lines are not counted)
What I learned after living in Barcelona for 3 months now: they say Barna as a short form instead of Barça. Don't know why though (someone once told me that it might be because of the football club...?). That aside I really love the levels of cities that I actually know the metro lines of, it's kinda fun because it's always different. :D
Challenge idea : No consecutives symbols. So no "Circle-Circle" or "Triangle-Triangle" back to back
Have you ever played this game or watched other rce's videos on this?
@@xcalixus Yes I have, it's certainly not easy, but it would be fun to watch. There could be an easier option by having no more than 2 or the same symbols following
@Gullzarr the no 2 option is near impossible because you would run out of lines and not get to the next round quickly enough very soon.
@@Gullzarr nope. circles spawn WAY too much to make this a feasible challenge.
That sounds more like strategy than challenge.
Not surprised the final level is Auckland... Having lived there, all the harbours and estuaries must make that city a right pain to rail in a game like this.
Barcelona *REALLY* needs a refreshement of its metro system!!
Great video! It’s nice to see you playing mini metro again. As I was watching the video I thought of a few ideas that you could try. Keeping in mind that I’ve never actually played this game I came up with these ideas just from what I’ve learned about the game watching you play.
1) Maybe you could try making as many intersections as you can. That way the game can come up with the best route on its own?
2) What if you tried making a grid of sorts? Grids seem to work in city skylines so maybe it will work for mini metro?
3) Maybe you could prioritize making sure you have no repeating shapes, even if it forces you to take a longer route?
4) This one could also work with any other strategies, and I think I’ve occasionally seen you do this in other mini metro videos. But what if you periodically wipe the map so that you can basically remap the lines once it gets too hectic?
I've been waiting for this! I've been getting back into mini motorways again lately, I'd love to see you try out the challenges again or something! Also not sure if you've ever played Wellington but that could be fun too
Good sir, afaik, you can also pick up any train at any time and put then in any line over any station in any direction, only thing is it needs to stop at a station before repositioning.
10:37 the entire left side is just circles. RCE, I think the circles are the architect firms, since they seem to always be a pain in the arse
Also at 12:41 I heard "we sold to Craigslist" and for a moment I thought you had sold the passengers on Craigslist...
Very happy to see this series again!!!! Your mini metro and mini motorway series got me through covid!
Probably they're industrial, commercial and residential. Although you'd be going to any random person's house and going to work wherever you like. The rest I assumed were tourist attractions but hospital and high end shopping works.
hit that thumbnail like the target it is
U know it
Yep
Don't make me shoot my phone from 100 meters
@@hashimina_ This got a good chuckle from me, thank you.
I think a general idea is to locate which shapes are the rarest, and make every line pass through that rare shape, start with many small loops in multiple directions, with the rare shape as the center an expand from there. Once the rare shape has a twin, then the lines closest to it will reroute to the new rare duplicate. I think that will generally be a good strategy. Anyways, I miss Timberborners, when we getting back to Shameville AKA Happyville
At the start of the game you want your lines to all pass through at least one square, as that is the most common passenger shape while being one of the least common stations. In the late game, you'll want them to all pass through any and all of the unique shapes (star, teardrop, football etc) of which there is only ever one station for.
That means it seems like it's often beneficial to have a midgame reshuffle once most of the map is revealed, so you can design your lines around these rarest shapes.
It's also OK to have multiple circle stations in a line, as long as the train servicing them is large enough or frequent enough, as circle stations spawn the most passengers. This also means it's a bad idea to have a circle station as an interchange, as their capacity is already reduced compared to other shapes due to them spawning more passengers.
I couldn’t have put it anymore better
I’m glad there’s a new video on this game! :)
having just gotten back from barcelona, looks like camp nou is in on the blue line which may be related to the intense crowding on that line 🤔 and red and purple both go to big tourist areas. but this was super fun and makes me want to play this game again :)
The feeling of a two-carriage train pulling up to a station with a timer is so satisfying :-)
Interesting that you didn't draw any line that crosses both rivers (IRL the red line, L1 and the orange one, L9, do that)
Also, I was thinking about which station represents what: the cross one could be Hospital Clínic (which is nowhere as crowded as in here), the star one is probably Plaça Catalunya (really crowded one) and the circle one that almost gets you in the end (with the yellow and purple lines) could be Sants, the main train station of the city.
Anyway, pretty cool to finally see BCN in Mini Metro!
Greetings from Barcelona!
13:50
RCE: Stadium
Me: Lemon Store!!
This is amazing, never seen anything like it!
"Is it better to have circle lines all going the same direction?"
That's always my question. I usually have one going each direction, if I can. I don't think it makes much of a difference for the simple stops, the squares, circles, and triangles - but when you start getting the rarer shapes, the diamonds, crosses... I *_feel_* like it's helped. But I haven't done any hard maths on it, though.
Other comments already explained it, but yes it does help!
Cause if say you have a star passenger spawn right after the star station it has to do an entire tour through the metro before arriving, adding strain to the train, whereas with both directions it'd be a single stop
@@Pichi-lv6yx That was part of my reasoning, yeah. Or, if not a specific station, then a connecting line might be closer in the other direction.
And also if you have for example 3 circles in a row, then the 3rd one hardly gets served because the train is already full by the time it gets to it, opposite directions counteract this
There are alternative maps for London, Paris and NYC in this game. Just click on the upper right corner of the respective levels.
I found circle lines are significantly powerful with the assistance of the bullet train in the Osaka map. Maybe you can try that next time.
how can a simple game like this feel like so mutch carnage
I went from watching a man talk about radioactive products to a man being chased by police to a man drawing phallic objects in a video game. CZcams is a wonderful place
Mqn, I was just thinking today it's been a while since you uploaded a mini motorways video, this is just as good!
It's best to not use circles as your line connections; very few passengers want to go to a circle and those that do will find one on their main route. At 4:20 when you add the green line to cross the red on a circle thats bad; passengers will get off at the circle and wait for the different line just because their destination shape is closer. Best to let them only get off where they want to be
I love watching this fella while eating, anyone else?
Wouldn't be a RCE Vid without a knob
I Only Just Saw Your Mini Metro Series. And Now Coincidently... You Have Another Mini Metro Video
Love this game, been playing periodically for years, i allways come back to this game
When making circle lines, try to keep each line as short as possible. So, grab as many lines as you can, as fast as you can, and try to keep them all the same length.
This doesn't make any sense. You want some lines to have higher capacity then others.
Imagine you have a rail network with 3 lines, and across all of them you need 4 train carts worth of capacity.
If each of them requires 1.3 carts, you have to use 6 carts/trains in order to stop them all slowly filling up.
If instead you had 2 smaller lines and 1 bigger one. 2+1+1 capacity required, you can meet the needs of the system with only 4 carts/trains
I love mini motorway videos please keep making them!
i love your videos.. honestly, after work ill watch new one before passing out and i let your videos play on auto play. you help me sleep lol
So... just a nitpick: "Barça" is not the short name of the city, just the football club. For the city it's "Barna".
I don’t know if you could do this. Do something like the one line challenge but use all the lines overlapping each other. And then set the trains and intervals all around the line and just start adding extra carriages.
I think you should delete all lines after every week, and make new routes. That way you can observe better and engineer better. And making circles are compulsory in this game, as they rotate all the items. Lines are full after 5th week. So, after that you can add more carriages to locomotives.
I don't know whether it's just due to British summer time, but I miss your 5pm uploads. Now rather than watching during my last 1/2 hour at work, I have to watch in installments every time I go to the loo.
cant wait for the singapore one
would like to see how rce butchers the train system of my country
6:20 THE YELLOW NOB HAS ARIVED!
I just imagine baby jesus playin with his trains and humans in trains just getting picked up to another place
I wish you all a great day!
“Did that spawn on my shaft!?“ lmao
Not official but my guess, O = residential stop, square = commercial, triangle = industrial, cross hosptial, other shapes various other unique stops like airports, train stations, event centers
Ooo, make a flower. Like one main loop with carriages, and loops off that loop connecting the outer stops to the main loop.
I don't know if anybody noticed, but the line colour matches the one in real life, I mean, the colours you received were red, purple, green, yellow and blue. In Barcelona, the Line 1 is red, 2 is purple, 3 green, 4 yellow and 5 blue and that is a wonderful detail😍😍😍😍
Yay, I've been waiting for this
I am now addicted to this game thanks to this channel! 😂
I've always thought of circles as residential. Squares are business districts. Triangles are shopping areas.
I’ve been waiting for this for ages
6:24 the green line looks like a dog's head, the yellow thing (the balls i guess) being the dogs's ear!
Btw, Barça is the short version for the football team, the short for the city is Barna.
I love your videos, man! You never fail to make me laugh some way, ya big goofball. I always thought, and I know you won't because it's not really your type of content, that it would be hilarious to watch you attempt to play ARK: Survival Evolved.
I've missed mini metro videos. And mini motorways.
5:37 local bridge boy finds Square interesting
10:46 I was screaming "just extend the yellow line to include the triangle"
I'm truly surprised that you didn't notice drawing the strongest shape at 15:10
RCE's acting was so good when he pretended to be surprised about making the knob
RCE: let's add another line over here
My mum: is he taking drugs or something?
Me: MUM NO HES MAKING TRAIN LINES
Amazing vid
Question: have you ever met an uncivil engineer?
Yes, we call them aerospace engineers.
it's also better than old-school CBD centric design
0:06 oh my Matt, but we only barely know eachother :o
Every time Matt says "purple train" i can't help but think of Geoff Marshall.
fun fact: the points he says are actually his passengers per daily count
You have inspired me to become an Engineer - cheers for being a being a legend 🫡
Game: exists
RCE: makes a strongest shape
They should add the Channel Tunnel in London. It would make for interesting gameplay. My fellow Brits will understand.
We want more infraspace like so he can see
Waiting for next ep with baited breath wish he did it every week rather than every 2 weeks
The way to make massive highscores is to micro every thing to the brink of madness.
So you see how you link up everything ? Don't do that.
What you need to do, is to have multiple lines available. And then you link the shapes required from the passengers at the stations with your lines. Once he delivered the passengers. Unlink the line from the now empty stations. And link it to the other ones.
And you rinse and repeat for 10 hours straight. Then boom. You've got yourself a crazy highscore.
And you're probably clinically insane
Hi bro :)
Absolutely love your videos...
Les go for 5 mil subs!!!!!!!
I'm not sure why the trains slow down when there's a sharp angle in this game. It's a MAP, in the HARRY BECK style.
Might i give a suggestion for this game: making horizontal lines in a section of the map and then making one vertical line maybe two to connect to all the horizontal lines
of course!
concentric circles, the aliens were like 40 years ahead of us!
I hate how some empty trains simply refuse to take passengers from overcrowded stations
15:16 orange track is the strongest shape
it would have been interesting if you went into creative or endless after you lost and wiped all the lines and rebuilt into more ideal circle lines
"Has that star just spawned on my shaft" yes, yes it has
The shape of the orange line 😆
how does youtube recommended know i've been playing mini metro :o
Yellow line doesn't contain triangle station, so transitional stations are overwhelmed. On red line is only one train.
The RCE dictionary:
Carnidge-A word used in situations where cars are not in an ideal situation.
Trainidge-A word used in situations where trains are not in an ideal situation.
Knob-A name of a shape
Strongest shape-Knob
Idiots-A word to describe architects
Arsey-eeee-Real Civil Engineering in short terms
Bridge review-Matt reviews a bridge.
Comment additional words in a reply.