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WT - How to fly the N1K1 floatplane
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- čas přidán 9. 01. 2017
- This was the first N1K1, designed to support frontline troops as Japan expanded during its island-hopping days. But by the time the plane went into production in 1943 Japan was on the defensive, so not many of these were built & they concentrated instead on the land-based J series.
This tutorial compares the plane to the A6M2 and A6M2-N, showing its strengths and weaknesses, and demonstrates how to use the plane to best effect as well as showing examples of how a mistake will lead to a quick and fiery death :)
I have sooooo been wasting my time watching other CZcamsrs. Inspirational but you are much more instructional. And you are flying the big bro of a plane I've had lots of fun in - the F1M2. Big thumbs up.
Good to see you back m8! :) Have learnt alot from your demonstrations of flying techniques and strategy. :)
Glad to see more WT videos, you taught me how to fight. I'm getting better than 7:1 with the soviet p-47 now. I agree that large calibers are nerfed. My ki-102 used to be able to obliterate anything in the sky, now just explosions without hits. The .50's seem different. The tracers are now more likely to set fires, but I still use stealth because of the element of surprise. You just can't depend on a fire anymore unless you get more than one going. When I see oil tank damage and fuel tank damage _and_ a fire, I usually pull off.
I'm so glad you're back, my teacher :)
So glad to see you back making videos. A lot of people including myself appreciate them very much. Thank you
It's nice to see the return of your detailed and thoughtful analyses.
Good to see you fly again. We missed you badly.
Nobody is able to analyze Arcade Gameplay as you can. Regardless how hard Gaijin tries to ruin it. ;)
Excellent review and absolutely reflects my experience with this particular Japanese plane.
Very well flown.
i fairly enjoyed the plane despite its weaknesses. it is pretty useful in airfield domination as a "panic capper" to stave off a defeat or snatch a win but due to the fuel tank in the float it typically catches fire after "landing". and is functionally fine, but still burns up.
I tested landing it & got a fuel leak, doesn't surprise me if you caught alight though :)
Note that the A6M2-N also has a float fuel tank now, and it too leaks if you cap with it.
long5hot doh, shows you I haven't flown the canoe of destiny in a bit. yes, the fuel leaks are nearly 100% I'd say the fires were around 30-40% ...granted they were full panic mode caps to try and win. WEP dive and hitting a bit harder than one should. definitely a crash in a non-float plane. I'm a sucker for playing the OBJ in airfield Dom.
Yeah its a pity the A6M2-N has this now, as that plane was brilliant in airfield Dom. You could establish a low-altitude presence over an airfield, dodging all the interceptors and dropping anyone who tried to dogfight or cap, and if the field was lost you could slam it down for a cheeky cap much quicker than a plane with wheels.
You may use BV 238 as a panic capper :)
There is defenitely some panic in red team when this thing lands on airfield and converts itself into massive AAA battery, capable to shot down two or three enemy planes almost instantly :)
It's awesome to have you back, I missed your vids
Tnx for your video longshot! I wanted to let you know that planes that used to have meh fire power like the BF109 F1 and F2 are complete ufo death monsters in arcade now. The F2 has 200 Canon shells that are deadly accurate and can kill medium tanks on a few passes. if you take out 1 or 2 fighters in the beginning you can start strafing a furball or defend an airfield or attack ground units. Its very versatile and as long as you keep flying fast in crowded places your chasee's will bite the dust. slow turning planes like migs typhoons and P38's can be easily out turned. The F2 is a bit different because you have to accept that a few hits are all you will get sometimes. only to find out later you've killed them because their engine has turned black fast. use the 7.7's to spray and the canon for some engine or pilot damage. I engaged 3 P38's at low altitude and they were all toast in seconds. I've seen your toturial on these planes but don't think they got the rating that they deserve now. 20MM the American M2 are all nerfed and that early 151 and FF/M with a fast reloading crew are awesome. Forget about bombers or strafe them just ones to try and destroy their engines to enable your team to pick them off al lower altitude. Its a high impact arcade plane that F2. I just have not figured out how to use the damn rockets XD. oh btw thier them down to 2.7 for maximum seal clubbing.
Cool to see that you are active again!!!
missed your analysis
Hey mate, agree with you on many of your conclusions, i've found the same, but i have to disagree on the guns. they are doing fine, at least in rb, where i took it out :) good video!
I think we always have a differing experience with gun effectiveness these days :)
that will change again once you get back into it full time ;) you were a bit all over the place, but thats just rust i think, which you will have cleaned up in no time im sure :)
I did find that the instructor wants to yank on the rudder too much with this plane, in AB anyway. Notice several times I've got a nice deflection shot lined up, only to see it spray both high and low while my mouse was fairly stable.
Okay, i'll have to fly it out into ab then, as it didnt do that for me in rb. But as we know, sometimes there's glitches reserved for only one mode.
Looking back through my footage, it happened most when I was trying to track a target moving at a diagonal angle across my guns - high to low or low to high & from one side to the other. I guess those are rather opportunistic shots that usually can't be expected to work, and that you generally wouldn't take in RB.
Glad to see you're back doing videos Long5hot! Hopefully the current state of the game doesn't affect your passion to make more great videos.
Sorry to be offtopic but does anyone know of a method to get back into an Instagram account..?
I was dumb forgot my password. I would appreciate any assistance you can give me
@Carter Andy Instablaster :)
@Tyler Darren I really appreciate your reply. I got to the site through google and Im waiting for the hacking stuff atm.
Looks like it's gonna take quite some time so I will get back to you later with my results.
@Tyler Darren it did the trick and I actually got access to my account again. Im so happy!
Thank you so much, you saved my account !
@Carter Andy glad I could help :D
I really like your comparison window in window shots. Really telling. #productionvalue :)
oh, also, look at the patch notes. Merry Christmass!
"Bug where after battle, preselected ammunition loadouts were reset has been fixed Bug where after battle, preselected ammunition loadouts were reset has been fixed "
About time!
Jayne Cobbb I'm still having belt resets across all aircraft... 😲
Ugggg. That sucks. Mine have been stable since the patch. Go to heal default!
If only they would make convergence distance tied to crew slot...
Even though I fly in Sim mode I always check your vids, interesting to see how the modes compare
I do want to fly Sim someday, I just haven't had the time to practice with my joystick & pedals. I can take off & land, but that's about it. In any kind of dogfight I end up in a stall spin, and I can't hit the broadside of a barn. Even the target truck on the test flight maps laugh at me as I spray bullets everywhere & never at the truck itself ;) I'm amazed at what you guys are capable of using those controls.
This is such a good video. I really hope Gaijin are paying attention. I love playing this game, but the matches are so lame right now.
HE'S BACK
I can see this being a good in naval forces for its speed and handling and ability to land on the water it can pick on low tier pt boats at its br and bomb a few as well like the american biplane
Hopefully the flight model will be added on later to make it more versatile. Seems like a dud filler plane. Thanks for another great video.
Great to see you back! Think you could take out the new cannon-cat? (F6F-5N)
I need to unlock it first - though I don't have great expectations of that plane...
long5hot , I don't think it's a bad plane, just overtiered... The cannon corsair has a superior flightmodel, especially at high speed, two cannons more and the same BR. I think 4.0-4.3 would be more suited for the kitty.
Yes that was my thought as well when I saw where they'd introduced it - way too high for what its FM can do. I'll give it a try once unlocked though :)
Aside from being fun in the "Floats" event, I guess I keep hoping there will be some advantage to flying a float plane. Maybe someday when they roll out boats the float planes will suddenly become an advantage to use? IDK
Yay!
I was hoping to see you cover this one, especially considering your love for the a6n2 float. I was thinking of you when I heard about this.
I also recently came back and have been playing a bit of arcade for a change. I had been dabbling with sim. You ever play it recently? The EC mode is actually quite nice because you can stay just as much as you want, and while it does take a bit to get engaged, usually, there is plenty of targets and no limits so you could potentially see any amount of anything.
I been watching a lot of Captain Toastman.
But I decided I needed to brush up on arcade to get a feel for things again before jumping in, and also unlock modules on new planes before I take them out in this.
I have to wonder, whenever I see you take these out, what are your crew skills like? Or at least for the crew slot it is in atm. And are you flying it spaded at the time?
You know, I actually won a talisman for the A6 float and really do well with it, but barely fly it, or much else in my Jap tech tree. My crews are way better in my Germans or Americans, so my grinds are considerably worse considering the spray spread and tendency to lock up sooner because of low skill.
I have belts unocked on the n1k1 float and was thinking it would only get better but most are saying its meh... 3.0 is just too high for that kind of performance.
Thanks man
Yes crew skills are an issue, and mine are all getting fairly high now. For planes in the low tiers I generally demonstrate them spaded (or close enough to spaded) as the grind really isn't that long. Even for this plane, diving into battle & getting a quick 1 or 2 kills before dying, you'll spade it very quickly and that's with no premium.
For higher tier planes its a different story ... hence the stock survival guides that I started making.
Well, at least for me, especially with it stock, and trying to air fight and not take the easier path of ground attacking to gain rp, I have been lucky to average about 1 module a game since I came back. Just to get the belts with this took 3 games, and then after I made this comment, I had a 4 kill and 3 assist game and finished out 7.7 belts and put 90% of fuselage.
That is something to consider, that many of the people that come looking for ideas on how to do better on an aircraft aren't going to be proficient at it, and most likely won't even have belts, because most don't even know that is one of the main problems with stock aircraft and just skip planes often because of that.
But I like to spade my low tiers for practice as I get back into the game, well, at least that is the pattern I have held.
I am 5 games 5 kills 5 deaths, and in stock configuration, especially when you get up tiered it feels like ground strike for quick rp is a solid bet when you can't even get anything but assists.
I generally don't even fly out a plane after I have it spaded. lol
Though when its in a tier that has a new plane that comes out I just might. But like with that a6n2 as it is 2.7 it isn't my first choice after the niki dies, the ki 45 hei is because it is close to being spaded.
Who knows, maybe that would change, but for me the game is about the grind. I don't know that I enjoy the plane in post unless I have a historical love for the thing, or that I plan to take it out in rb or sim later and certainly shouldn't if it is stock.
Maybe I should more.
Ok man, thanks for the answer and the content!
Maybe I will see you in the skies out there today!
An interesting contrast with Jengar's review of the same aircraft.
Yes, Jengar mentioned wing ripping due to G-forces, but I was unable to replicate that as you saw. I'm thinking that he may have flown it in RB before it was spaded, as this plane is certainly a lot more fragile in stock condition. Or perhaps I just didn't try hard enough in my efforts to break it :)
probably negative Gforces
Ok I just went into a custom battle and ran some more tests. With down elevator it barely pulls 3 Gs and the wings are safe. However, I tried a snap roll at 420km/h and both wings popped. A break turn (elevator and full rudder) also snapped the wings at 450km/h.
Hence its a combination of rudder & elevators that stresses the airframe in this plane, which means not using it in hard maneuvers and also being careful not to drag the mouse suddenly to the side at high speed as the instructor will break the wings for you as well.
I've added an annotation to that part of the vid, and filed this away as something to test with future aircraft.
Perfect example why I am struggling to find the motivation to switch to RB...
Yes its games like that, which seem to be the vast majority in my experience, that keep me away as well. I still have a lot of footage from August when I last flew out with Jengar in RB, I've made a few half-heated efforts edit it into a video but I'm afraid it'd only turn into a diatribe on the mode's shortcomings (and my own).
I did of course mean "half-hearted" :)
I queue up for RB first when I have more patience, get my drink in the early stages. After an RB or two I slide into Arcade. RB has those moments where 2-5 planes will engage in a single dogfight for minutes and break off to re-arm. RB can be worth it, and it is at least fighter focused.
To me this plane isn't that bad, with those cannons I use vertical convergence, (400m) and tracer rounds, that do the trick. Btw welcome back sensei, I would lend you my account if u want to do premium reviews :D
That's very kind of you, but I'm very wary of borrowing accounts - not sure if its really compatible with the game's ToS. Even if it is, its not the kind of thing I feel comfortable doing...
I have many premiums actually (not all though) - for a while I produced a series of vids on them and had people asking me to get back to the regular tree ;)
Use stealth/universal on the Japanese cannons, the HEFI-T deals about half the damage of the non-tracer rounds. Otherwise it's really the Japanese version of the MG FF (not mine-shell version)
Usually I go with universal for type 99s, but in patch 1.65 none of the belts seem to be much good, not in my experience anyway.
I've unlocked this plane like 3 or 4 days ago and during the first match I've managed to tear off both my wings with a full elevator turn at ~550 kph IAS so you are definitely not that safe.
My friends also did, so it wasn't me just being unlucky. The extra structural integrity from upgrades might make it harder, but I'm pretty sure you can lose your wings to high G turns.
Yes, I added an annotation to that part of the video, but unfortunately not everyone sees annotations :\
I've since performed more RB tests, and found that if there's even a small amount of rudder involved you can lose wings in maneuvers over 500km/h. Even down to the low 400km/h range you can lose them if you perform a violent maneuver such as a snap roll, and that's with a spaded plane. I'll make sure to be more comprehensive in future tests :)
I have annotations turned off, so I didn't see it. My bad.
Anyways, thanks for the reply, and keep up the good work!
No worries - annotations don't work at all for videos shown on mobiles & tablets.
So, what's the next airplane?
I really like to see a F82 or P61 guide
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Well, I guess it depends on what I feel like flying. I haven't made a vid on the Ki-100 yet, so there's that ... there's the new cannoncat which I first need to unlock. I own the F82, have rarely flown it though, and haven't gotten a P61 yet.
longshot,
While it's great to see you back - even though the game is in a worse shape than it used to be... - I have one remark.
15:30 - you did not take out his tail control :)
The message on the right means this plane had already lost the tail control.
If you were the one who made his plane that cripplied you'd get massive "CRITICAL HIT" on the centre of your screen.
Only that combined with the message on the right hand means that it was you who actually dealt the damage.
As you hit him a couple of times - not inflicting critical damange - you were only given an Assist with the info on the right that the plane had already been crippled.
I know it's a bit confusing but that's what it is :)
Yep you're correct. That's the problem with unscripted narration, I make mistakes :)
Like everybody does from time to time Chief :)
Keep up with the great content ! :)
I feel the same way about RB. Frankly, I don´t even get why they call it that way. I´d rather call it Team Deathmatch...
I hope they deliver at least EC soon to RB. Since almost all battles and with one team cleaning the floor with the other one and all boils down to eliminating all enemy players, the goals are almost useless and all none fighter planes more like a burden.
good video .
you're suppose to get rid of the float landing gears before you fly.
don't know that that was a thing at the time of making this vid ;)
@@long5hot 👌 no gear outclasses all planes in 2.3 arcade
I bet it would!!
Low altitude feedimg frenzy
What changed within the game that made you want to play again? I'm glad you're back :)
Very good question. I guess I got the itch to fly with my squadron for the first time in many months, and that led to the itch to make videos again. The game is unfortunately in a worse state than when I left it due to the nerfing of most cannon & machineguns.
hey, I know you probably mentioned it in one of your vids, but what is a deflection shot? (at 13:07)
Its where you're shooting at a target that's travelling at an angle to your plane. As distinct from sitting on someone's tail or a head on.
Nice!
Longshot--I may be a perfectionist, but plz, if you have got a completed battle task, click on it! I keep trying to, forgetting I'm only watching on CZcams, and it will give me Parkinson's disease. :D
N1K has unique flap design. Try using them.
This plane does not, it only has landing flaps.
long5hot but those are Fowler flaps?
Hmm. I don't have any technical info on this plane, but looking at a screenshot - i.imgur.com/9d9QDuX.jpg - they just look like plain flaps to me, or maybe some hybrid of plain & slotted.
So I just ran some performance tests. In RB without flaps, horizontal elevator turn at 2500m, it holds around 300km/h and takes 17 seconds for a 360 degree turn, or 21 deg/sec. With flaps, its 225km/h and takes 18.5 seconds for a 360 degree turn, or 19.5 deg/sec. So no gain there at all, and its a similar story in AB.
Given the problems it has accelerating from low speed, I'd want to see a huge turning improvement from the flaps to justify their use, and unfortunately that's not the case.
Bummer. I haven't touched n1k's in a very long time but last time I did, flaps did a huge impact
I'm sure they still do for non-float plane N1Ks, as those do indeed have highly effective flaps. Its just that this plane, which was designed much earlier, wasn't given them. Its a similar story with the float zero, which only has landing flaps whereas the other zeros have combat flaps.
a lot of the lower level realistic matches are almost like arcade where few players climb. if you want more competitive RB games you should look at 5.0-5.7 B.r.
Oh for sure, and that happens to be the BR level at which bomber spam takes over AB. I can, however, only comment on what the RB battles look like for the plane I'm reviewing at the time.
Please make a video about low tier American planes. The nerf with .50 cals are hurting low tier American planes a lot.
Well, my video would probably be about 2 minutes long, showing lengthy bursts into stalled targets creating pretty spark shows & little else, followed by me saying "low tier Americans? Don't fly 'em right now".
long5hot can you please make a video on the p47 m and how to fly it in arcade?
Unfortunately I don't own that plane.
Where do you land in these typee of planes?
Hey Longshot, since 50 cals are nerfed what don't you make a video about the F6F or P47.... you get the point
Right now I'm struggling to find ammo that isn't nerfed. I flew a P-47 a few days ago, got twice the number of assists as I did kills :\
long5hot yeah me too the only american plane that i get kills with is the hispano p51
long5hot so i've been really playing all the nations and i haven't decided which country to stick with yet, what do you propose?
Indeed, that plane is excellent. Early Hispanos seem to be the best 20mm cannon in my experience at the moment. The Mk V spark a lot though.
I haven't yet stuck with one nation, so I'm probably the wrong person to ask - I like variety :)
I guess just go with whichever nation suits your playing style the best.
Well, you can turn it into a Shiden
By finding a way to rip the floats off? That's hilarious if possible :)
Well, I know that's hilarious but Juno TakaLeon made it possible
Wings snap at 666kmh...
yeah its evil >:)
So a lot of players that play warthunder watch your vids right? here is the plan longshot. Plz do a very in depth series on how to use the most powerful bombers to end matches as quick as possible 4 bombers from 4 tiers from every nation. The idea behind this being that when people start flying the most powerful bombers matches will be so short that Gaijin will have to rebalance the game! Explain how you can kill 20 Armored targets with the PE-8 while being un vulnerable to enemy fighters with its defensive armament. The only balance that would make sense to me is that battles last about three times as long and the balance system will be changed through different ticket rates that count enemy planes as enemy targets that will have to be dealt with seperately only then fighters will climb and bombers will climb. so lets make some ultimate bomber spam happen over the next months!!!!. I heard you complain about silver lions. Well! grind a nice bomber and enjoy your well deserved rapefest!
I haven't complained about silver lions - I have millions of the things ;)
Anyway, I seriously doubt Gaijin care one iota about the length of Arcade battles. If they did, they would have fixed it already. There's been a pinned thread on the forum about it for years now with voting heavily in favor of longer battles. There's been a plethora of suggestions on how to improve Ground Strike. There was even a situation once where a bug crept in, and the destruction of airfields no longer ended the battle. They fixed THAT problem within 24 hours - heaven forbid that people actually enjoy longer games in Arcade!
So no, the game is how they like it, and it'll stay that way I guess as long as people are spending gold eagles for premium and buying upgrades to skip the grind.
I cant get anything going with this plane in SB. Worthless. You are wrong about the guns though. These are decent in this BR especially at low altitude.
Gave up on the Japanese line. Too slow, too poorly armored, overtiered, easy to blow up, can't energy fight, terrible DMs, and when you try to turn and burn with someone, another guy snipes you with 30 CALS from 700m :(
This plane is even worse than A6m2-N on AB battles - I spaded and put him out in to the dark corner of my garage..Compared to the premium Japanese BF-109 E-3(E-7) 2.7 (AB) is a pure crap. Greetings from _Hegemon_
I hated this plane. Got it spaded but did not enjoy.
Yeah its hard work.
Effectively useless, then. I won't bother with it.
Heh, I fly the crappy planes so you won't have to :)
I should also mention that even if you don't want to fly it, if you ever have an N1K1 floatplane bothering you in a battle and you're in a decent fighter, take it up into the vertical with a spiral climb or climbing scissors. The N1K1 will quickly drop to stall speed & present an easy kill.
Thanks, mate!
This plane is just useless...
Pretty much.
long5hot wow you have still 22/08 at your place don't you? Amazing!
It's already 23th of August here in Poland!
Um, no... its 9.45pm here on the 23rd. Australia's ahead of you, timezone-wise.
long5hot aah right of course!
XD