Are Life By You And Paralives Going To Kill Off The Sims?
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- čas přidán 23. 03. 2023
- The Future Of The Sims May Be Threatened By New And Upcoming Life SImulation Games And I'd Like To Talk About It!
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I think The Sims will remain the more popular game-for a while. But EA is like that abusive boyfriend that keeps you in that sad gas-lighting cycle because you have nowhere else to go. If these future games really step up and offer complete games and true transparency the simming community could really find themselves migrating to games without years-long unfixed bugs, rich and deep content, and a respectful friendship between player and dev. This latest pack Growing Together has finally made me quit the Sims with its milestone-disappearing bug. I’ve pitched over a thousand bucks into this game and I’m so sick of them putting out packs for sale that are broken.
Omg gurl I hope you’re ok that’s a really intense comparison): I hope no one did that to you, but you’re right !!
I totally expect Life By You to have DLC. But I feel like it will all be Gamepack size, no near-compulsory Expansions or tatty Stuff/Kit packs. And it won't be bullshit like My Wedding Pack. So maybe you'll get pets in a pack, but not everybody wants Pets. Maybe occults will be in packs, but not everybody wants occults.
What really funny is sims 4 has been around since 2014 it’s been 9 years and they still have issues and bugs if ea does not come out with sims 5 they will be beat by life by you
The sims are also like your boyfriend's ex-girlfriend, which you should be worried about because no matter how much he slanders her, you know he still loves her.
@@hyenaholicproductions9033 That's how Paradox generally put out DLC. Paradox DLC add depth of gameplay to existing gameplay, and there is MUCH, MUCH more quality to Paradox DLC. A lot of people are saying stupid, blanket statements like "all DLC is bad". Those people have obviously only played The Sims. DLC with Paradox is generally quite good, and if you talk to people who actually play games outside of the Sims, you'll find that people generally have a very different view of DLC from Paradox. I certainly have a lot of it. Not all of it, but a lot. DLC is kind of made essential with The Sims to get any gameplay, but it's not with Paradox. With Paradox you can pick and choose to suit your gameplay, and that's how DLC SHOULD be.
I'd like to see the basegame have a bit of everything, and DLC take some of that and expand on that. For example.
For shopping, perhaps the base game can have a basic shop where people can go and buy anything, and some people who aren't into grindy shopping might be satisfied with that. Then a DLC could come out to expand on that, with varieties of shops, where shoppers can browse and choose, with careers associated with shops. Grocery shopping for those who want it. It could add the ability to build a shop and run it in depth. I loved Open for Business in The Sims 2 - one of my favourite packs.
The base game should definitely have cars with automatic driving from place to place like The Sims 3, but a DLC could introduce player first person driving, teens going for a driver's license, a mechanic career, the ability to fix and service cars, minor car accidents, a shitload of different kinds of cars, car sales yards, even car racing tracks. Not everyone will be into that.
Cooking: The base game could have basic cooking, including recipes and ingredients etc. The Sims 2 did this well (The Sims 4 did this rather badly - they made the graphics so generic that every recipe had the same graphics - The Sims 2 had varied graphics depending upon what they were making and what equipment they used). An expansion could expand on this hugely - making cooking a major thing, where players have to find recipes and actually specify procedures in recipe making, even perhaps include mini-games. And this pack could work very well with the shopping pack and a grocery store.
The base game could have a generic holiday destination with a hotel and a beach with various entertainments. A DLC could have a variety of worlds attached with a lot more, similar to The Sims 3 (loved that pack!). This would work wonderfully for Life by You, because people would put out all sorts of mods to flesh these 'worlds' (I don't get why people call them 'worlds' - they're not different worlds in my view - just different places within the same world) out even further, and make their own holiday destinations too. Some people might not be interested in varieties of holiday destinations.
Parks and Beaches: The base game should of course have these with swings and general playgrounds and park benches and bbqs, which would possibly satisfy a lot of players, but an expansion pack could have the ability to build your own very cool playgrounds and waterparks and parks in general, make events like festivals and carnivals with food and rides. It could expand on pathing and nature walks and add botanic gardens.
And of course, there's parenting and families with endless possibilities. The ideas that could be expanded from an already rich base game are endless! THIS is how DLC should be! Not the additions of everyday things that are suddenly introduced that should have been in the base game to begin with. If you make a basegame with most gameplay missing, the base game should be free from the outset, then it's pay to play - a VERY different Model. EA have been burning the candle at both ends for years, making people pay twice - once for a featureless base game, then pay again to get the features they have already really paid for! If I pay 40% of the cost of the game in an expansion, I expect to get 40% expansion to my game! Expansions are meant to EXPAND, not complete!
"Paralives is a game, and The Sims is a base game. There's a big difference."
I felt that in my soul.
Imagine spending thousands on a game to then have to imagine your own gameplay 😂
That's the unfortunate truth bout the sims 4
Yeah, like imagine two people are hungry
Person 1: Hey, person 2, I'll order a pizza is that good?
Person 2: Yeah, sure, I'm starving
P1: Me too, one moment *Ordering Pizza*
Delivery: hey I got the pizza!
P2: But... There's nothing in the box..?
Delivery: Well just PRETEND there's pizza 🤩🤩🤩
Imagine person 1 and 2 is the sims community, delivery is ea and the pizza is the sims 4
That's why I get them for free lol
@@frosinicapandispan5534 same :)
@@frosinicapandispan5534 could you tell me how to get them for free?? 😭 I want some packs too!
Good essay. One correction: Will Wright didn’t create the Sims 4, he’s the creator of the original Sims. The Sims 4 was created by completely different people (and it shows!)
I genuinely can’t believe the sims 4 team made that beautiful world and was like YES let’s not make any of this playable! I bet they were like well , the modders got this.
Yeah, I bet they have the same idea they had when people ask why they stop giving Sims background stories.
“ let’s let you guys create your own stories” I feel like that’s so lazy and I’m pretty sure they do the same thing with the worlds.
@@Alysaah Or they do add stories, but don’t use game features to support them. The grandfather in the GT trailer is missing. The family with a deceased dad? He’s not even in the family tree. His widow has a milestone for climbing Mt Komerobi, but has no rock climbing skill
Thats the one thing I have to give EA credit on with TS4 was writing the source code with python to make it more mod-friendly than TS2 or TS3.
TwistedMexi's back must've hurt so bad from singlehandedly carrying ts4 off-lot gameplay
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3:20 Paralives has confirmed that seasons/weather and pets (cats, dogs and horses) will be included in the base game! However, according to their development roadmap, both weather and animals will be added during early access. The devs plan for there to be free content updates, and maybe some DLC, but not much.
I still remember reading about the Sims in a PC magazine in 1998. Kids today, just don't realize how ground breaking and original the sims was.
And its all been torn apart because of ea, really truly upsetting
Your content is amazing and Sims4 is just a shell, a shadow of what the previous Sims game were. Difference is ALL the games had potential. The Sims4 does not.
The Sims 4 at one point had good potential. It's just EA took it and stomped it all the way down to hell
TS4 is a different game. I wouldn't say it is a shell or shadow. It is just different. And Buggy
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What do you mean you don't want to play pretend? Isn't it fun tho to take your sims to willow creek with the beautiful scenery and the beach right in front of your house and get to the beach, change into swimwear and stare at the screen and pretend your sims is swimming. Yea, really fun
Hahaha.
Honestly I think that the Sims have run its course thanks to EA. While the build mode is fantastic, the Sims are a life simulation game and even with mods, I struggle to keep myself entertained with the gameplay. I never had this issue with the Sims 3. I am very doubtful that the fifth instalment will be any better than the fourth, so I am very happy to see that alternatives are made. Everything can be replaced; one has to take only one look on what happened to Sim City and unfortunately the Sims will most probably share the same fate.
The franchise would've lasted longer if Will Wright kept it 😢
I think that, at this point, instead of something like Paralives or LBY, we need a Sims fangame. Paralives and Life By You are gonna be great, but they lack the lore and gameplay features (occults, ghosts, grim reaper, etc) that are iconic to the Sims. Paralives and LBY can’t do a carbon copy obviously since they’d get in trouble with EA for monetizing it, but a Sims fangame made by the community could, as long as it’s free.
If you went back to play a previous sim version. Do you think you would find it easier to stay entertained? :) Or do you think it may have more to do with you getting older, and therefore not finding joy in the same things you did as a child?
Don't get me wrong, I have the same 'issue'. But I don't think it is because of the game. If anything, it is an improvement, since I only had the (often crashing) base game in sims 3, and very little dlc in sims 1 and 2. But even if I had all the dlc of the previous ones, I don't think it would be that different. A few aspects maybe; but nothing noteworthy to be honest. :)
@@HereIAm247 There is definitely a nostalgia factor involved with the previous Sims games. Anything related to childhood is always better than the new thing in a way. I actually go back to the Sims 3 on a regular basis for over a decade, and I do not do it for purely nostalgic reasons but simply because I do have more fun playing it than the Sims 4. I am lucky that I never had many issues with the Sims 3 running (occasional crash did still happen from time to time) and I understand why a lot of people are put off by previous games because of these technical issues which do become more frequent the bigger the save is. What I would love to see is maybe a refresh for the previous games, so they could run better on all kinds of PCs, so everyone could enjoy them more. The Sims 4 are in that department definitely a step up from the previous games.
@@HereIAm247 Yes, I regularly play TS2 and TS3 and they're way more content-packed and fun than ts4 lol, the only thing i'd give TS4 over them is the dragging system in CAS and build/buy mode.
As a avid Sims 3 player still.... I'm so happy Life by you is a thing. It looks exactly like what I've been looking for in a life simulator, and I'm beyond excited for it to come out. I've been following any and everything I can regarding it. I still love the Sims 3, but I'm tired of it. It's been almost 20 years of playing it, and I can't see myself buying Sims 4 packs and starting all over again, especially since it's not open world, to childish and cartoony, and flat. I know it won't hold my attention for too long.
i don't think sims 4 will just disappear, but hopefully something similar will happen with SimCity and Cities Skylines. yes, you CAN go play simcity if you want, but would you really want to, when cities skylines exists?
I play both. Simcity has a better gameplay and better graphics. Cities skylines is a good city builder and perfect for creative people
@@karinasnooodles_ what type of gameplay does a city builder game have? I thought it was just building
I hope so. They fooled and disappointed us for so many years now. At this point the whole game got so expansive with so many bugs and huge lack of gameplay. How can it be that some packs have bugs which make the pack unplayable?
I stopped playing months ago and I can’t wait for new games killing it off.
Honestly… if Life By You steps up their art design, I think it will be the beginning of the end. Paralives has beautiful art direction, which makes a huge difference. It’s has a unique look. Sadly I think a lot of their ideas will be poached before it launches.
My only critique of LBY is it doesn’t have a “look” that is identifiable yet. But game play wise it’s what most life sim players have been asking for.
Not that I think this would happen , but if LBY absorbed paralives and there was a hybrid of the two games looks-wise, I don’t think the sims could compete at all operating under their current model.
Im personally not buying anymore sims 4 content based on principle. There is literally nothing to do in any of these worlds that all look the same. Even more frustrating, is that if they rolled out a completely empty world it would be better received lol then 5 buildable lots and useless shells.
Every expansion is beating a dead horse at this point.
Apparently at the preorder of 'Life By You' was so that player can test the game and send feed back to the company so become part of the process of the game development. Also Arnie the modder is also working on a life simulator game too. Also one of the creators of Life by you was help create Sims 2 & Sims 3 and he came to greet you in Sims 2.
you mean rod humble he was the one that greeted you in the sims 2 freetime and left a gift
My favorite part about videos like these is reading all the comments from EA and Maxis defenders who don't realize that other companies producing games in the same genre means EA being forced to make the Sims games better to earn your dollar. Or you know, playing both or all three games cause that's also an option lol. I hope EA is humbled cause they are a terrible anti consumer company.
Great video Satch!
Its already good how it is. Is it so hard to imagne people can actually be satistied how things are?
(Okay besides some issues and bugs, but no game is perfect. But I get what you mean and agree/recognize)
@@saartjeh7901 If you enjoy the game in the state that it is in than I am thrilled for you. But there are a sizable number of us that are not happy with the Sims 4 today, and ultimately more options is good for the community as a whole. It's a wonderful change of pace!
@@saartjeh7901 no, but then why would you be bothered by an alternative product at all? If you're happy shopping at a certain store, and another opens up selling similar things, you can still keep shopping at the same place. You might even benefit from them lowering their prices. I struggle to think of any monopoly that has been a good thing (other than the board game!)
Grateful that there are upcoming alternatives. Many days i really feel traumatised by the Sims 4, especially when I excitedly buy a new pack only to find that it’s broken or shallow with nothing much to do. The trauma is real
I believe if The Sims 5 doesnt step up its base game, and Life by You delivers everything it appears to be, it could easily steal EA's thunder.
Doubt it.
You're so right as always. EA needs competition, and I can't wait to play Paralives and Life by you, which I hope is, as you say, more mature and less catered to younger audiences.
I support your comments in this video. I am an adult wanting to play out scenarios without pretending. Unfortunately like many other Simmers I have invested a lot of money and time into this franchise. I have jumped ship from Sims 2 and 3 because I hoped for something better without fully diving into many added contents I purchased. I do imagine I may jump ship again for Life by You.
Im glad to see other life simulations games, its about time tbh. I agree with you...
I'm excited to try "Paralives" and "Life By You" when they are out. I prefer the character graphics in Paralives, but then again Life by You might change their graphics later on.
I actually hope they can return to grace. Sims always had a special place in my heart and if they really manage to get it together and improve I’d be willing to give Sims 5 a chance. But since they have competition now they can’t afford to release a half assed base game
Also another note on paradox DLC policy and why it was much better than EA, Crusader Kings 2 ended their game with a very beloved DLC which was said to be the best DLC in paradox ever, and Crusader Kings 3 that later released as ck2 successor included one of the best feature in the said DLC in the base game. For this reason alone, i have such a huge trust over the ck3 Dev team that even after like months(?) Of dryspell by the Dev team (which is very unlikely for a paradox game mind you) i still have huge hopes and patient for them
I am actually excited for all the upcoming titles! I might even be playing all of them, for different purposes. Either way, I agree with you that it's positive for everyone that EA won't have monopoly on life sim games anymore.
That sandwich illustration is quite accurate. Life by you graphics look like placeholder models so I am hoping the graphics get a huge overhaul. BD is high graphics and it was optimized really well with NPC's traveling around the open world. I understand that life by you isn't like the BD devs who literally built their own engine so their game could run well, but I do hope life by you tries to make the graphics look a bit pretty while keeping it well optimized for our computers. I look forward to seeing how paralives and life by you will handle their games.
You perfectly summarised how I feel about the sims 4. I played it again recently because I wanted to try "growing together" and the infants, but I got bored before my sims get the chance to have a baby. It never happened to me with any other sims game. I'm so looking forward to playing paralives and life by you ☺️
I watched a trailer of Life By You and what’s coming out this fall. I have already preordered the game, because of ALL THE FEATURES it offers that Sims doesn’t. Some of the BIG attractions to LBY, is it’s an OPEN WORLD, SWITCHING of CHARACTERS (at a click, with no loading time) Super MOD friendly and ENCOURAGED. NARRATING your conversations IN ENGLISH… (or your own language) And that’s just to name a few. Sims needs to kick it up or become “yesterdays fashion.” In general, I love the Sims, but competition is GOOD FOR THEM and great for US! I have spent so much money on this game… and I literally get very little benefit from all that spending… someone said “EA needs to come out with Sims5 or they will be lost.” I personally, don’t need MORE EMPTY/BROKEN PROMISES from EA. Super excited about LBY coming out this Fall!❤❤❤
EA really broke my heart. They are so abusive to their customers releasing broken but expensive packs and berating their customers when they beg for better changes. I hate EA so much that I'd rather buy all the other life sim games first. I'm waiting several years after they release The Sims 5 to see if it will be any good. That's how much I don't trust EA anymore.
I don't think the sims will die completely. There will always be die hard fans. However, I do think that EA will lose a lot of revenue from those of us who are absolutely done with them and will be migrating over. It will hopefully be the wakeup call they need to provide people who want to stick with the sims with the value for money they should have always been getting.
I think the problem is, like you mentioned, Paralives and LBY are not the sims and people are going to be expecting almost like for like. I think this will be a sticking point for sims players. With literally only one life sim at the moment, there is tons of room within the genre to cater to everyone. Look at the explosion of farming and cosy games in the last 2 years. There are sooo many and a lot of them are getting equal traction while Stardew and AC are still the dominating games.
100% this I think Life Sims are going though the same evolution farming sims went through a few years back. The main content on offer was lackluster and either stagnating or rapidly decreasing in quality (Harvest Moon is garbage since Natsume took the name, Story of Seasons is pretty good but I think most people agreed that the original SoS and Trio of Towns weren't really doing enough to keep the genre fresh. Rune Factory was basically dead after 4 despite strong sales due to the company's bankruptcy. That was basically the bulk of the genre right there).
Then Stardew Valley came out and knocked the pants off of literally every Farming Sim to date even before it got it's myriad of completely FREE updates, companies realized there was a huge market (I mean SDV has sold 20 million copies, up there with titles like Modern Warfare 2, Red Dead Redemption, some Pokemon titles, etc.) and started trying to get a piece of the pie. Some of that was just plain farm sims, but there's been plenty of iteration on the genre too.
Basically, a developer stagnated, leaving plenty of room for a competitor to come in and run away with the ball. It's definitely not a coincidence that we're getting a lot of ambitious Life Sims now that Sims 4 has left the genre very stagnant for nearly a decade.
@@suicune95 you put it far better than I could 😅 though maybe SDV was a poor example for me to bring up because ConcernedApe really did create something special.
At the end of the day, if every genre was like how the life sim genre is now we'd have about 10 games to choose from. Imagine if the only shooter was COD or the only JRPG was final fantasy? It would be so boring! So many stories would go untold.
More life sim options doesn't mean that the sims has to die or that you can either play LBY or the sims or paralives and not all 3. I have all but moved away from the sims at the this point anyway in favour of things like farming sims and for more creativity, things like house flipper and animal crossing so I need a life sim to fill that bit of gameplay I'm missing.
@@RykerJones28 Oh yeah make no mistake, Stardew Valley absolutely would not be where it is if ConcernedApe didn't make an absolutely stellar game. I don't think that's up for debate (the creators of Story of Seasons even flew him out and modeled their most recent mainline entry to be heavily Stardew inspired! He literally redefined the genre!) Players bought Stardew first and foremost because it was an amazing game. Thing is, he got a MASSIVE leg up thanks to the genre stagnating, and there would have been no need for ConcernedApe to make such an amazing game if the genre staples hadn't been so lackluster for so long.
Sims 1, 2, and 3 were THE life sims, and they remained that way because of a combination of being expensive and difficult to replicate, genuine talent and passion on the part of the people at every level of the operation, and just being absolutely amazing games. TS4 lost a lot of the talent that made the earlier games great and it wasn't a very good game in general, and eventually someone else is going to put work into figuring out how to tackle the complexity hurdle.
I think EA got too comfortable (and greedy) with their lack of competition and figured they could just do whatever they wanted with The Sims and we'd all be forced to buy it. Now they're learning what happens when you get complacent. New games move in to be better than you and steal your audience away.
paralives looks great gameplay wise but i'm so picky with art styles and i genuinely hate the one they chose for the characters 😭💔
See I’m opposite. I love the cartoony cosy look, but life by you not so much
Paralives showed any gameplay features ? I only saw videos of them walking or talking with each others.
I do too. I want to like it, but it’s still not sticking for me yet
I hope they improve the look of the humans or sims in life by you, then it will be a serious competitor.
I’m just happy to see more games in this genre so ea can not get away with $1000 of dlc
I’m definitely buying both para and life by you. Not giving any money to ea.
I'm always so sad when I see building that looks so good and I can't use it! That building you showed by the water looks like an ice cream place to me, the walk up window, and the seating with the umbrellas at 01:38 It's maddening.
It's the reason why I didn't buy Growing together. It will only trigger bakskskksla 😂
I have sank over 5000 hours into The Sims 4, and have been playing it since the day it came out. Over the years, I have bought every single pack (including kits) but as of the latest expansion pack, I am done. Not just with buying dlc, but with The Sims 4 entirely. I exclusively played The Sims 4 for nearly a decade until I decided to branch out and try a few other games. After genuinely finding myself enjoying these other games, I literally cannot play The Sims 4 anymore. Like, it does not even sound fun. I open up the game now and immediately close it because I just cannot be bothered to wait through loading screen after loading screen for an event or lot that is messed up by bugs (one of which destroyed a 7-year save file beyond repair--no mods or cc). The Sims 4 is an incredibly fun game, if it is all you play. But once you experience a game that shows you the high level of detail and love that the developers poured into it, you can't go back.
I hope the competition will actually happen in a live mode.
I mean LBY is testing waters and will most likely have to adapt and change in years. Also, it won't do on low end and average PCs. Seems like not everyone quite gets it now. It's actually a huge thing to have in mind.
Then Paralives. I'm waiting for this game, I really want it to release and be successful, but.. The release date is nowhere to be seen. Maybe even in years. Yeah, I know, I know, small team, development process, etc. Still, it takes a huge amount of time, while others are already out there. Will it be out in 2, 3 or 5 years? Or more? Will it ever be out, especially considering LBY will take a place of a major competitor of TS and NOT Paralives in the nearest future? It's all highly questionable.
I want LBY to be a solid and rule changing life simulator, although my PC as it is now won't handle it. It handles TS3 and TS4 perfectly, but LBY is another level. I also want Paralives badly. Idc, it feels so chill and cozy, and colorful, and warm. I wanna play it so damn much.
But in reality LBY is yet to find its way and Paralives is nowhere to be seen in the horizon.
I’m not really feeling paralived but life by u looks really cool and they show u way more stuff that u can do already.
I agree the Sims community is toxic AND entitled. I have never seen such a spoiled group of people who feel like everything is for them and should only be a certain way and if you disagree they come after you like a pack of wild dogs.
I'd probably feel pretty entitled too if I spent over $1000 for a buggy boring game like the Sims 4 💀
I remember being so excited when I first purchased the sims 4 laundry pack, only to be disappointed when i found out it was kinda bugged and would make my sims stuck and staring blankly at nothing when interacting with the washing machine or hamper. now i only use the pack for the cas and objects and I avoid putting a washing machine down like the plague lol
I totally agree with that description of simmers. “There are starving children in Africa,” lol, so accurate.
I don’t think “life by you” will overtake the sims. But only because there are those simmers who simp over EA. The “don’t abandon the sims 4. I’ve already put so much money into it! It needs to be fixed” crowd ain’t going anywhere.
I’m sure this sounds elitist but I’m happy to lose them. If “life by you” is mostly a community of disgruntled sims players it’ll probably make the game better because they’ll have higher standards. I don’t want my interests to directly compete with the “wow! They gave us pretty dogs” faction.
Honestly, for a long time I thought I had a lot of fun with TS3 just because I was a bit younger and had different interests back at the time. And I thought that my disinterest in TS4 was just me, getting older (and I only play with mods because without it, I wouldn't even play at all). But one of your videos made me wanted to re-install TS3 just by curiosity... aaaand I drowned myself in the gameplay for hours >.> TS4 is beautiful, CAS and building are pleasing. But yeah... the gameplay is shallow and apparently, the boring bugs are not necessarily because of my mods since even players who played vanilla, experience issues too.
Can't wait to see Paralives and Life by You, to discover new simulation gameplay without EA somewhere in the loop.
While not confirmed yet, we do see a character trying out clothes in the outerwear category. So I think that’s a hint that we will have weather in the base game
i absolutely can not wait to try out other simulation games
I hope instead of dying, The Sims gets its shit together.
Same. They’ll have no choice honestly. Because right now they’re the most popular, they think they can get away with making overpriced content with the very little content. If they want to stay ahead, they’ll need to stop their BS. Losing money will probably be what makes EA step up and make a good game (because clearly negative reviews from the players aren’t enough).
I think the upcoming simulation games from Paralives and Paradox are going to evaporate EAs Sims franchise. Since I am completely unable to access my games through the EA app, I've decided to support Paralives and wait for the release of both new games. I'm back to playing my Sims 2 games that I've owned since their release. Replaying that game is quite enjoyable and refreshing. I just hope the Community of either of the new games remain POSITIVE and non abusive. It's sad what's happening in the active community.
Totally agree about the vibe of these games. I believe the "uncanny valley" graphics of Life by You is an attempt to make the game look more realistic and less cartoonish. The style may need work, but I think they wanted to send a message that this is targeting the grown-up audience. People who can handle realism, complexity, and challenges.
Personally, I can't understand why so many are upset about the graphics of Life by You.
Sure, the character models still look a bit "rough". But I actually like the rest. Besides, it's not all set in stone yet.
@@SimlikeitHot Maybe we think about different complexities. I am thinking of how in Sims 4, you go to a community lot and the game just teleports in random townies. Regardless of whether they have any reason to be there, or even reasons not to be there (being at work or having unattended infants at home). If you go skiing in Japan, Eliza Pancakes is there. If go to the lounge for a drink, she is there. If you water your dirt piles in the garden, she is jogging past. We accept this because it is cartoon logic. By choosing a non-cartoon graphic design, the game makes us expect a more realistic approach. Will it keep its promise? We'll see in September.
I don’t necessarily think either will kill off the Sims but will push the competition. With Life by You possible being only a PC game, that automatically killed off a lot of console players that were interested. As far as Paralives, I’m honestly not sold. Idc where it comes from, but I just want a good next gen simulation game.
I remember with The Sims 2 and 3, they would work on the PC version first and once that is completed and released, they work on the Mac, console and handheld versions. Life by You (lots of which worked on TS2&3) will probably do the same.
For what it's worth, I love Snowfall lol. Trams + snowy maps are things I use often in Cities.
I don't think Paralives will kill the Sims, it will carve out its niche in the market and do well. I do think Life By You has a good chance of taking a good chunk of the market away from Sims.
Paradox didn't _make_ Cities Skylines. They published it. Cities is made by Colossal Order.
Well, TS Team got scared about Paralives, because Paralives lets you build a house with much more detail than TS has ever had and so they showed "Hey...! TS5 has some color wheel and... you can do furniture ypur way...!"
I do think those games could potentially kill TS and I'm excited to know there's more life sims coming and that they do look fun as well. I do hope Life by You change their art style a bit, since the models do look ugly
I don’t want the sims to die off! I want EA to see that they have competition in this market (life simulation) and be inspired by them. Being the monopoly has left them complacent and hopefully these new games will light the fire underneath their tails
I agree! I've been playing The Sims for a LONG time! I would stay with them in a heartbeat if they would just step up!
Honestly what an example of how much EA screws its players that we're impressed by seasons in different games
"Are Life By You And Paralives Going To Kill Off The Sims?" At this point, I kind of want them to.
all it takes to beat the sims is a engine that actually works and modding after that why even return
i mean 10 years and a sims cant slide across the bed
I saw somewhere that when games have to compete for players, the players win. And that is so true.
making a lot of DLCs is one thing but the fact that some of them are so bugged that they are unplayable and do nothing about it is another. I don't know which company would have the audacity to sell DLCs that don't work and are still on the game market.
I'm so excited for the new games, I've been needing something new for a long time!
So I wonder how long EA have known about LBY. I believe that we only got the latest pack because they knew LBY was coming. The pandemic did not affect them apart from workers having to work from home. People were still buying the packs and probably playing even more. The dramatic reduction in EP and GP, and the death of SP, could have been because they started frantically working on making the sims think better and have infants. How long have we been asking for generations and EA ignored us? Suddenly we get something close just before LBY announcement. I don't think it is a coincidence.
It's not a coincidence, any more than The Sims 4 adding curved walls (badly) is a coincidence after Paralives put it in their game. Company execs keep a rabid eye on the competition. They would have known about Life by You not long after it started. That's what companies do. This is, after all, why they announced The Sims 5 so unusually (for EA) early. This is why they're a little more transparent about The Sims 5 when they've never been before. This is why they put out infants, and this is why this latest pack has a little more value than previous packs. This is ALSO why they moved into that mod app recently. They are working at keeping their modders from jumping ship - modders are very important to keeping their players.
As soon as EA got their grubby little hands on Maxis, The Sims turned into a cashcow and it shows. EA won't loose sleep over these two new games and honestly, it needs competition as seen from the latest pack's and the infant update with dlc locked changing table, it still makes me sick and I cant justify $60 (Australia) just for that one thing. It's actually insane. As a console player, dlc costs as much as a base game can absolutely jump into an abyss because of how empty it is.
Ive played the sims since I was 12 (Im 34 now) and the absolute state of the games has promise everytime yet its so bland and boring to play but the guilt that I bought it sends me back. Its toxic. lmfao the guilt tripping was something my mother tried to do with me, people in general have absolutely no chill and need to be humbled.
I really love your videos I only found your channel a month ago but I love your opinions, your spot on with a lot of the things you say and its refreshing to see someone who is honest about just how shallow and cash grabby the sims 4 is
Life by you is for the win with me they just need better avatars cause baby what I see so far just ain’t it 😐🥴
Wishing death to the entire Sims franchise would be very silly. Besides, that won't happen anyway. The Sims name is much too big for that. It's just good that EA finally has someone to light a fire under their butt. We as players finally get long-awaited alternatives. The nice thing is that Paralives and Life by you take 2 different approaches. We can only hope that EA now draws the right conclusions for the future and that in a few years we might have 3 good life simulation games that each have their own individual strengths.
"Play pretend" YESSS, that's one of my biggest critiques
I’ll spend my $$ on life by you. Instead of getting growing together. I don’t even want to get sims5 because I hate the EA app.
Also if I've learned anything from playing stardew valley, indie games are becoming far superior to bigger flagship games.
They have been for years now. Indie games are much less buggy, much more innovative and have much better gameplay, and are MUCH, MUCH cheaper. The only thing they have less of is money to advertise to the blind sheep. I think people are FINALLY, very slowly, seeing the light.
Why shouldn't we jump ship after The Sims 4? It has failed consistently to live up to its' predecessors on every level from the base game up and reached the point it became unplayable. We wouldn't buy a faulty car, we wouldn't buy a static-riddled TV, so why waste more and more money on this? That's plain stupidity, and it's rewarding EA for their negligence and disrespect for their colleagues AND the Sims community. I simply can't think of a single reason why we should stay loyal to them anymore. The Sims 4 will NEVER be The Sims 3 or 2, and neither will The Sims 5 be anything but a rip-off of EA's competitors.
Unless Sims 5 has sims that actually behave normally then I'm done with it. These games have been out for years but sims still behave so irrationally and there are still so many bugs. If EA can't fix what they already made, I don't have very high hopes for the new game to be any better than the same old buggy lunatic asylum.
tbh i think i won’t stop bc i’m so used to playing ts4 and since i’ve played it for a while i just prefer the look and i don’t think i could move
Yes! I am very excited for the competition to finally show up! I loved Sims 2 and 3, but hated how sims 3 started to have a lot of those tiny DLC items and kept pushing it while you were in game. Sims 4 was a big disappointment all around, and just felt like they were taking steps backwards and not many steps forwards. Competition is good for everyone!
A lot of people in the simmer community are acting like entitled demanding spoiled brats. A lot of TS4 Discord servers had to temporarily close their support channels due to their VOLUNTEERS being harassed and even threatened and there are several CC and mod creators either on hiatus or no longer updating their mods due to anxiety from all the harassment they've been getting. People should be more appreciative of all the hard work that these creators are putting into the game as a hobby.
Thank you. The Sims (EA) community can be very toxic. It’s almost like people forget it’s just a game. It’s not real life and just because they like it doesn’t mean someone else has to. I suppose it’s hard to admit after dropping 100s of dollars to play a game that they’ve been ripped off. I have bought every Sims game and dlc but I know damn well Sims 4 has been a buggy rip off. I like playing simulation games. Cities Skylines, SimCity, damn near every “tycoon” game, and every variant of Stardew Valley farming games. They are games. Each different and offering many different things.
It’s unfair for EA Sims community to even compare LbY or paralives to Sims whatever version number. They are completely different games and at the end of the day no one cares whether someone likes it or not. Those that play it will play it and toxicity isn’t going to change that.
Paralives has a harder role because they actually have to try to convert toxic people to their side and therefore their production gets held up trying to cater to their wants. A dumb strategy because even if you made the perfect game, you’ll never please the simps.
LbY on the other hand is a Paradox game and Paradox already has millions of game fans because of their great games. LbY isn’t being designed for Sims 4 Simps. It looks more rpg like and more in-depth as far as gameplay and customization. The biggest complaint you hear from simmpers is the graphics. Really? The most played and sold game in the world is Minecraft. You’d hardly say they have state of the art graphics. Stardew Valley isn’t using cartoony 3d graphics either and yet is a much loved game. If you like the look of Sims 4 then play it. One’s enjoyment of a game has nothing to do with me. You don’t even register as a thought in my life and I surely don’t fret about what game someone likes when I go to bed at night.
These are all different games, they act look and feel differently. If they were the same then there would be no point to them. You can actually still play Simps 4 and the other games lol. I have dozens of games I play according to how I feel at the time. And as pointed out, competition is always a good thing. You have to wonder though at the large number of posts lately that having a choice is overwhelming. I seriously feel sorry for people today when choice is a concern. I guess that’s how we get companies like EA to begin with.
Yea I actually enjoy playing the sims 4, I never have had the sims 3 and I just can't understand how people like that way more. Maybe the sims 4 just also fits my gamestyle.
I don't feel ripped 😊off lol
I think Live by you with its realistic graphics like Second Life, its custom dialogs and with the modding community will be great to tell or record adult content (3x), so yeah it is a different market, I can imagine adult sites with videos from Life By You for different tastes and fetishes. While the Sims will be more family friendly.
At the moment I can't even go into the new world without my whole sims crashing and I've done all recommended
I don't think new life sim games will kill off TS4, or TS in general.
1)Brand recognition
2) All this new Life Sim games coming out want to carve out a new niche in the market, they don't want to be just TS but better, they want to be their own game giveing their players a new experince diffrent from TS franchise in general
For example I don't think Life by You it's the game for me, it seems like it involves a lot of collecting and micromanageing, but that might be the biggest selling point for other peopole.
Yeah, LBY seems to be more "technical" and like.. not so artsy or 'comfy'? somehow? idk words.
Paralives seems more like my kind of game. It seems very cozy and the theme (both in the visuals/graphics and the animations) is very sweet and simple. Life By You seems very intricate, if you get what I'm trying to say.
Paralives is hitting most of my checkboxes so far, but I'll probably try LBY as well because a little technical complicated fun can be a good time too.
To be honest, I think LBY and Paralives almost compliment eachother because of the differences between them already. If someone isn't into Paralives, but likes life-sim games, they'd probably like LBY, and vice-versa. I have hope that these two games will build a completely seperate community from the TS one(s), and like you said, carve out new niches in the market.
It will kill TS4 for sure but not the franchise
@@karinasnooodles_ I think than by the time this new games come out, TS4 will be nearing the end of it's run time. It has already entered the end of it's life cycle, and TS5 it's already in the work so by the time Paralives and Life by You come out TS5 will also be nearly finished.
@@ihavenodesiretocreateahandle i complete agree with u and they both excite me in different aspects, i honestly spend more time in the menus or files of the sims 3 bc idk i love customizing every little thing nd never get around to actually playing my sims cuz i spend so much time tinkering w my game lol, i jus love that both games are gonna b moddable i did the same thing w stardew i modded the crap out of it till it was basically unplayable xd i hope my sims 3 survives till these new games come out 🤞
@@ihavenodesiretocreateahandle I think than since the Life simulation community game there will definatly be a lot of crossing over in betwin the fandoms. Since the life simaultion genere it's a niche of an already niche game style. Kinda like in the Magical Girl community most peopole have watch all the big ones (Sailor Moon, Winx, Cardcaptur Sakura, exe...) since it's not a very big genre comapred to others, this shows still have their own fandoms but there is a lot of crossing over.
i cant wait for the other games to come out!!
Other life simulators will definitely do that. Rabbit holes and loading constant screen is not great. They cut so many corners, they took advantage and in the end is karma for ea.
Are you going to do another Coral Island playthrough? Literally love them 😂
I gasped for air when you said "building a brand for 20 years must account for something" and then directly after you show footage of a sims 4 house burning to the ground 👌👌👌 amazing editing
I think and i had spent enough Buying DLC hoping it will add some interesting gameplay but no,(still same arrogant EA) the game is virtually collecting dust in my pc now. Even with so many dlc there is no reason to play it just like what you said. Stuck in my home lot and nothing to do. Always spent hours building new home but when i put my sims in it, 5 mins and I’m bored.
Well done, Satch. I reckon you're echoing the thoughts of most people here. You're certainly echoing mine.
You should know that Rod Humble were a part of Maxis in the sims 2 era. When you play sims 2 and start in a new house, you will be given a computer as a packet at the door. This is Rod Humble that does that delivery in the game! 😉
When I first started I thought my game was broken because of the loading screens. 😂 I really thought it was like in the Sims 3. 🙈 Now I am used to it. 😊
so i like them both. paralives and life by you and i'm excited to be playing both.
i personally think it's high time that sims got its rivals and competition bc they can basically do what they want bc there is no real alternative for us.
like the only alternative is, will i play the sims 3 oder sims 4 let's be honest. i love the sims 3 and i think the sims 4 has made a lot of good things but tbh it's also very clear that the modders and the cc creator are the ones keeping the sims 4 alive.
do i think both of the upcoming game will actually pose a threat for the sims as in that they actually will lose ppl to these games? with paralives i personally don't think so.
i think we all will love it and will probably say it's better than the sims 4 but it doesn't have enough of a base to go off on it with cc and mods. and since they are an indie team they simply - even if they have the skills and the potential to beat the sims - don't have the resources.
with life by you though i actually see a possible chance. maybe it's bc i genuinely got excited about the possibilies they introduced with writing your own quests, dialogue and all the customization options they talked about. it will also be able to be modded and stuff? so i honestly think in terms of storytelling and stuff that ppl could actually switch to that game. and if also the graphics and looks are as good as they admittedly are in the sims 4 then i really think the sims will have a serious threat with life by you.
After the latest trailer I think LBY looks awesome even if i'm not a big fan of the graphics.
One thing I really want is the ability to frame screenshots for walls.
I'm honestly ok if Life By You has DLC ngl. I know some simmers will be the kind to collect 'em all, but at least in the first three sim games you weren't really expected to get them all (or even most of them). You were expected to get a few to customize your experience and leave the rest. Like occults but hate family gameplay? You can get Supernatural and skip Generations and not really lose anything. The reason why Sims 4 sucks is because the packs have been chopped into a thousand pieces and now you need like four combined packs to get what used to get you one. If you're a family/legacy player then you need, minimum, High School Years, Growing Together, Parenthood, and My Wedding Stories and you STILL don't have all of the features you got in Sims 3 Generations for 4x the cost.
DLC gets a bad rap, but honestly I don't think players have a problem with DLC. They have a problem with scummy, exploitative DLC. Sims 2 and 3, while having a ton of DLC and being very expensive games to experience fully, were really not hugely scummy because again, you were expected to buy maybe a few EPs and call it good, and the base games were so good that you didn't absolutely need DLC to make them fun.
EA DLC is exploitive, which is why Simmers hate it. Paradox DLC isn't - it's completely different - it's actually worth the money - it's DLC as it's meant to be - it expands the existing game.
I have a feeling that ts5 will be subscription based…
The only way I would consider a subscription is if it included all the DLC as it was released. Otherwise it's not worth it. To be honest they'd probably make more money sticking to what they got now. Most sims players only pick up the game for a week then don't play for a year. Unless it's a yearly subscription only. F that. :/
Even with weather in the base game in LBY, I want to see a Disasters DLC. I love the idea of having your sims end up dealing with tornadoes, earthquakes, hurricanes, blizzards and other disasters.
One thing that is so off from the Sims 4 trailers to the game is that the background characters do nothing vs do everything.
For example, you never see couples flirting in the background, exploring their hobbies, or actually interact with you in a meaningful way. .
They aren’t a lot different than the “cars” that pass by.
Paralives is vaporware. Life By You looks too serious. I think the Sims will live.
"I'm not 5 years old" 😆 i know right. XD
For me, I'm wishing for Rockstar to make a GTA Life version or another time period becos currently if I'm not building homes &/or families in the Sims franchise, I'm certainly destroying it &/or causing havoc in the other. Though, knowingly this reads glorifying violence, it's just a game to blow off stress and NOT to do it irl.
I have seen many negative comments in the sims community about Life by You, I saw a few comments like nothing will beat The Sims 😅 But I am getting tired of EAs cashgrab Packs....and the most annoying are getting the Kits
I loved the sims 3 for their gameplay and LOADED packs. The producers of the sims 4 really messed up with pack and play content. Packs now come with much smaller details and content then ever before and they make you pay up the bum hole for this small amount of content… they’ve really screwed a lot of us over these past 14 years… so Im really hoping they either step it back up or a lot of us are going to say “sul sul” to the Sims. Im so thankful for some new sim games!
To answer your question: YES! Yes, they will kill off The Sims. So many youtubers and sim influencers are on their delusional marketing mode (again!) and keep saying that Life By You is going to be a competition. Lol. Who are they kidding? The Sims 4 or 5 will not be a competition to the life simulation genre. It's going to die, just like how SimCity 4 died, after Cities: Skylines launched. And honestly? Thank God! EA deserved this.
I really hope so.
Cities skylines buried simcity. If i was the sims franchise I'd be very scared. No more lazy cash grab game packs.
I'm look forward to being able to play "Paralives" and "Life By You" to decide whether I like one of them or Sims more. I'm open to giving the proverbial new kids a fair chance to gain my interest. Hands on play will tell me than more than the ads and reviews.
What i hate about the sims 4 that it's too cartoony kiddie look.
Im gona wait until life by you i have pretty much given up on sims4
Nah I think EA will just have to pull up their socks and won’t be able to get away coasting while ripping us off. The Sims 5 footage remain the best LOOKING from all of them. They can still lead if they want to.
However Life by You is a very promising contender. I’m not holding my breath for Paralives simply because they’re going to need to either partner up or get acquired to have enough cash flow to actually takeoff
Paralives has the cash flow, it's community driven. But they're a small team, so mostly they need time - a few years yet, and they risk people giving up on them, losing interest and moving on, sadly. But I think they'll end up with a niche market when they do come out because they're very different. And their first priority is gameplay, which is very encouraging since we've been starved of gameplay in a life sim for almost a decade now, and they seem to have some wonderful ideas about good gameplay. I have no doubt that the gameplay will be good in Paralives. Life by You has shown us some remarkable customisation that looks amazing, but they've shown us literally zero gameplay as yet. It's a Paradox game, so it's bound to have good gameplay (Paradox is specifically known for providing depth of gameplay), but is it in the right direction to make it a game instead of a dolls house like The Sims and Second Life? Only time will tell, because Paradox really hasn't given us anything about actual gameplay - only customisation. I'm crossing my fingers.