Only reason why I remember the karaoke household is cause Akira is there and he makes cute babies. You’re right tho, these sims look like those premade sims you get in CAS when you start a new save.
I only have base game and I will 100% back you up on the Roomies being forgettable. I have over 30 save files and I have never interacted with Gavin Richards. 😅
Yes, this video is literally the first I've heard of them. Interesting that this happens in base game too, as I'd have assumed it was all the expansions on mine swamping them.
I mainly find them memorable casue they all wear bright yellow outfits lmao. Baako also tends to pop up in my game pretty often, Anaya I actually see much less for whatever reason.
Try this. Go into CAS and swap their gender. I do this with Mila Munch and Penny Pizzaz in all my saves. They might become more memorable if you remake them.
I don’t recognize most of the Sims you called recognizable, but know all of the ones you mentioned as forgettable 😅 The BFFs are icons, they’re always there to meet me when I play in their world. I recognize the Free Spirits household because I had to break them up when my Sim found out the one with dark hair wasn’t single 🤣 and Cecilia was my first wife in Cottage Living because she’s just so pretty for a premade Sim, I love her
Fun fact about Ulrike and how forgettable she is, she has the same three traits as Holly Alto from Get Famous. Creative, Perfectionist and Art lover. That's how blend she is, everything about her revolves around painting, I once had a legacy founder marry her so I at least got some money. I always try to give more variety in the townies I interact with in each save so I did encounter some of the other families you mentioned. It's kinda sad but for me the most forgettable townies (based on my gameplay) were pretty much everyone from Tomarang. I don't know how to explain, but because of the residential rentals, the game generates random townie families (single mom with teen and a child) and most of them look way more pretty and interesting than the official ones. So my sims always end up interacting with the random ones instead of the official families. I remember after finishing a tomarang savefile and loving playing on the world and the community that my sims formed and going to a tierlist of all townies and bring like "Who are this people???" Probably the only one I interacted with was Cam Sadya but only cause I was needing a extra kid for a friend group.
Yeah, I think Ulrike needed like Mean or something instead of Perfectionist to give her a bit more spice. The only interesting thing about her is that she’s a part of the Renegades and her design I think is actually pretty solid. Otherwise, she doesn’t have a lot going on. I’d have to disagree with you on the Tomarang families, I find all of them to be quite memorable personally. Large part of it is probably that they all have queer narratives within them and the Tomarang Truth feature adds more depth to them. I also like that two of them are multi-generational, those families always stick out more in my mind. Btw most of the tenant options are actually not randomly generated, there are pre-made options available for the players. The household you mentioned f.e. is I think the Brock household composed of single mom Nancy Brock and her two kids Julie and Johnny. There’s quite a bit of pre-made tenant household, one of the rare instances where the devs put in some extra effort (if only they could put that effort into gameplay performance as well).
@@grippnosimsOh no I didn't mean the Brock family I mean the actual randomly generated ones that only exist in that savefile. The game keeps spawning them and my child sims had a whole family group (and yes Tomarang is pretty queer, most of the ones that spawn were all lesbians or bisexual), from the rental premade the ones that really caught my attention were the Lee family and I even married him in that savefil. But I've been giving Tomarang a chance in a different savefile and I kinda agree that they can be unique specially with the Tomarang Truth and dialogues talking about the past.
@@WesleiOliveira628 Oh okay, I actually didn’t know the game would spawn in randomly generated households with more than one Sim, I thought it was only single Sim households. Maybe the exception is Residential Rentals so you don’t only have single Sim options if you run out of the Pre-made Tenants. If so, that’s pretty cool that they thought of that. I love the Lees, Minsung is a certified cutie. I’d definitely encourage you to explore the Tomarang households more because I think they’re quite well fleshed out. Arturo Linh is one of my fave Pre-mades as he has that dumb Sims energy that I love (he’s this gay astronaut that’s convinced there’s bears on the moon and made it his life mission to find them to prove it, to his husband’s dismay). I also have a personal bias towards Kasem Bun Ma due to his history here on my channel haha.
@@grippnosims Fun fact, Selvadorada Tomarang and Mt Komorebi are the only worlds that spawn actual families. Tomarang spawns three people household (a mother, a teen and a child), Selvadorada is sometimes is a single parent and a kid (except for Skeletons, they normally will have five sims families but are all hidden from your game so you don't have Skeletons walking around in Willow Creek when you're back home) and in Mt Komorebi during the Festival of Snow and depending how populate is your world it can spawn a five people household (two parents, a teen, a kid and a toddler). I always pay attention to those because I like to give them makeovers and add them to the world as extra households. Sometime I save them to my library so they show up in different saves. But Tomarang was having so many new families that I barely paid attention to the official premades. Right now I have a new save with my sim married to Thi Lihn so I'll probably try to check out more of her parents before they die (but they have like only a week left I think)
As someone who only plays with the pre-made households this list is crazy to me, but only because of the storylines they had in my save file! J Huntington III (Roomies) had a friends with benefits situation with Zoe Patel (Roomies) until he meets Dina Caliente and accidentally got her pregnant. They got married and cheated on each other throughout most of their marriage. Zoe got married to Johnny Zest and they have twin girls, something that brought Johnny closer to his family (The Landgraabs), after he became a successful comedian. Mitchell is an asexual gay sim in my game and Gavin got married to Nina Caliente, who lied to him about her daughter being Gavin's child instead of Don Lothario's. Maaike and Ulrike got engaged in my save, but Ulrike ended up cheating on her with Candy Behr and left Maaike at the altar for Candy. That was crazy! Akira and Miko were also friends with benefits, also resulting in an accidental pregnancy and got married because of their daughter. Darling transitioned (ftm) and became Devin. Cecilia Kang (New Start) had an affair with Thomas Watson from Cottage Living and they had a son, but Thomas refused to claim him as his child, because of his marriage to Rahmi. Rahmi eventually found out though, resulting in a divorce, her moving out and taking the kids with her. Thomas asked Cecilia to move in afterwards because the man cannot do household chores on his own lmao The Electic Arts household happily lived in a polyamorous relationship, Christie (Jess' daughter) moved out as a teenager, because she couldn't handle her parents' secrets anymore, and I went full rags to riches. Kaori got pregnant as a teenager by Kiyoshi Ito, Shigeru kicked her out and both Sachiko and Shigeru died before they ever made peace with Kaori and met their grandchildren. With the Elderberry's Rohan went to university, lived in the dorms, and fell in love with a man, despite having a long-term girlfriend he met as a teen and thinking he was straight. When he came back and told Ekram and Eleanore Ekram and him got in a huge fight and Ekram died of rage. Rohan and his boyfriend moved in to support Eleanore and they all lived a happy life together. Insane storylines, I'm well aware! But it was so fun and gave them all so much personality
This is how you play with townies! Now I’m tempted to start a save where all I do is play with the premade sims and sims that maxis made then make them more interesting through gameplay
I've actually interacted with more of these premades after giving them a refresh and adding some depth to them. Ive placed majority of sims in clubs so i always see them around. For example, i have a woohoo club with don lothario, j huntington and other non commital sims. Or a gardening club with some of the elderly sims. I even have a solving strangerville club with dylan sigworth, erwin pieres and the eclectic arts household and their hangout spot is at the local library.
I only remember the one dude with the Mohawk because, when I first started testing out island living, he was the main partner of my sim. She cheated a lot but he never caught her
I’ve played a lot in Sulani so that’s probably why they stick in my mind a bit more. The Hoapili household though is definitely a little forgettable imo.
@@itsmattq there's a male mermaid too, who I ended up playing because he was dating one of my Sims, and the mermaid girl immediately found him and she moved in the next day.
Love Darling ngl, she sticks in my mind infinitely more than Akira and Miko for sure. Also, who are her parents? Why is she rooming with two random adults? She’s an enigma.
@@pinkdiamond1847 I agree, Darling just radiates non-binary energy. I'm convinced the only reason they aren't classed as non-binary by default is because they/them pronouns simply weren't in the game until HSY.
Yeah I was super wrong about that one lmao. Even Ash Harjo predates Jay. I was going off the fanwiki which states them to be the first non-binary Sim, though I now see that they meant explicitly non-binary since they’re the first to use the term non-binary in-game through their Sequoia Secrets while Morgyn and Ash are just implied through outside information and their pronoun preferences. Though I guess that just strengthens my point of them being forgettable since they don’t even have the distinction of being the first non-binary Sim haha
Thank you so much! Yeah, the ever elusive algorithm hasn’t been especially kind to me so far lmao, but this video somehow made its way onto people’s feed so I hope I’ll get more eyeballs on my future (and past) videos.
This was awesome! Half these sims I really had no idea existed lol. Honestly the ONLY reason I remember Koari is bc she’s always getting in the way of my relationship with Kiyoshi lol
Whrn you said the roomies household, I was going to objrct thrn realised i was thinking of the BBF house instead. Though I do always remember onr of them looks like JonTron.
There’s probably many of these sims that I’ve evicted to make way for my own characters without giving them a second thought. But, one of my sims recently went to uni twice and kept bumping into Eleanor Elderberry. I think she was a professor or student and part of one of my characters’ societies. And ‘cause she a pretty lady with pretty hair and has such a strong name, of course he befriended her. She might’ve even been his BFF at uni. She seemed to just be everywhere. Every social night at the pub. Every society gathering (though, not the secret society). But, pretty much nowhere outside of uni. And she stuck around for two whole degrees! Had no idea she had a husband or grandson, though
I remember the Nishidake and Elderberry household often bc I always pair the teens together in my games. It makes sense to me they’d at the very least be friends since they’re the only teens being raised by their grandparents
I agreed with most of them. But all 3 Nishidake's especially Kaori are everywhere in my game's (I dont play with lifespans) and Elenore Elderberry always ends up as a food stall vendor in all my games. The families i do forget about: The Rasoya's I forget about both fairly easily. The wolf family in Moonwood Mill (The Volkovs i think?) Always moves out of their home. The Hoapilis: The younger adult one easily fades into the background. And the elder is more likely spotted in San Myshuno than Sulani Bess Sterling's (husband, boyfriend, Roommate or whatever) specifically: I swear neither of them leave their home and the only reason I know Bess is because she constantly calls for donations.
Playing with aging off definitely allows for the elder Sims more time to shine, maybe I’ll try that at some point. Agree with your list, most of them don’t stick out too much, aside from the Volkov’s imo. I run into them a lot and Kristopher is an absolute icon in my eyes. I think that’s another difference with playing with aging on vs off, the occults will stick out more for players that play with aging on since they don’t die and will pop up periodically throughout multiple generations of your played family. I’m on Gen 6 of my Legacy Challenge and the Volkov’s are still hanging out in my save, as are Vlad and Lilith (Caleb died randomly two generations ago rip).
Had no clue so many of these sims outside of BG existed much less had families until a youtuber I watched interacted with them. Some of them I had no clue which packs they were from until this video.
I honestly never understood why the Sims they made for marketing never made it into the game proper. I feel like they should just add them as Townies in the base game, it’s kinda weird that Alex Moyer is the only base game Pre-made Townie.
I absolutely loved this video, I have memorised every single townie from Sims 4 worlds and I'm happy that someone is making content with them :D I definetely stay here for longer! You've got a new subscriber ^^
Cecilia Kang is memorable to me because she's one of the few non-randomly generated townie NPCs that are single. Yeah she's dating the creature guy but he's even more forgettable. Last time I played my Sim dated her briefly, got her pregnant with twins, then autonomously cheated on her in front of her.
I don’t think I’ve ever encountered him in Copperdale personally, usually I just get the HSY and Base Game teens. Also Aurelio Robles, he’s like always my classmate lmao.
NGL, I did not recognize Sachiko in the thumbnail at all. I thought she was a townie. 😂 You are so right. She and Shigeru died in my save before I got a chance to play them. Poor Kaori was all alone.
i agree with this list aside from the karaoke legends. akiro is a dealer in my save file 😭 i used to have miko as my sims best friend when the pack was new and darling is like one of the only teens in this game so she’s invited to all the teen functions lol
Maybe the newer packs, especially HSY, has reduced Darling’s memorability a bit since we’ve gotten so many more teen Pre-mades. I feel like I never see her, not even when I go to high school with my teens.
I agree on most of these and I'm treating this as a suggestion list for Sims to play with in my saves. The one exception would be the Karaoke family who always seem to turn up in my saves, particularly Darling, who has different genders across my games. Also, with Strangetown, I tend to bring in the Sims 2 Strangetown families from the gallery, so haven't paid much attention to the ones that come with the pack. The exception would probably be the guy who lives in the plane (Cavill?) The thing with elders is a good reason to turn off auto-aging non-played houses. I know it's less realistic, but then you can get to know these pre-made Sims and even play them at some later date as they were meant to be. Hey, I'm an OG Sims player who is used to my Sims either not aging or being frozen in time when I'm not playing them!
Yeah, I think making this video made me realize I should probably try doing an aging off let’s play at some point. I usually don’t as I find Sims aging to feel like I’m progressing in my gameplay and I often use in-game age as kind of a time limit or barrier. The trade off, of course, elder pre-mades die really early on lmao.
Justice for Mary tbh, even the family bio says she and Blossom adopted Knox together. I think it’s kinda cute for Olive to be Tina’s stepdaughter though, there’s not nearly enough step relationships in the game imo. Basically just the Harjo household from what I can remember.
I was kinda surprised to see Karaoke Legends but I think I remember them just because I used to play in the apartment next to theirs a lot and I saw their Welcome Wagon a ton of times Miko's haircut helps a little ngl
I don’t think I’ve played much in their neighborhood, I usually default to the Arts Quarter or the Spice Market when I live in San Myshuno so that could definitely factor in their inclusion on this list
I loved playing with the Eclectic Arts household! Leslie and Mark married had a child, so did Alice and that Erwin guy, and the two children ended up together too xD
when i redo my worlds and townies before i play, i usually delete the roomies because i hate the fact that theyre a reference and not a real household lol
I personally think that any household that came after Discover University is very forgettable (with a few exceptions). A lot of times before sims looked intentional (probably because quite a few of them were in the franchise for a long time), but the new packs seems like they just pressed ‘randomize’ button few times and then added the clothes from the new pack. I literally could not name any of the people from San Sequoia, Tomarang or even Copperdale, I have no idea who lives there
I’d have to disagree, I find most of the more recent Pre-made Sim to be a lot more fleshed out than the earlier ones actually but I respect your opinion
I only remember the free spirits household bc one of them died when i first bought get together and it was like the first time i saw neighborhood stories lol
I've been playing the Sims 4 for years and I don't think I've ever even seen a single member of the Roomies household out and about 😅 I honestly forgot they existed
I love the girl sim with the short blonde hair from strangerville. I had my sim marry her but they had to divorce due to her very frequent possession that would happen every other hour 😭🙄
Who's the most forgettable? Well, I'll tell you one thing, I have a long list of pre-made sims I hate; for one reason or another. There are two kinds of sims I hate: 1. The kind I wish bad things for. I play out them failing at life. 2. The kind I hate so much that I kill them with violent mods every time I start a new save file.
bruh I had discover university for a good while and I have never seen the elderberry family in any of my saves, I didn't even know they existed 💀💀 but tbf, ig i haven't played the pack much... or at all-
Oh yeah, I totally forgot about Ash Harjo lmaoo. Morgyn Ember from Realm of Magic would also predate Jay, but I believe they weren’t officially updated to be non-binary until after Growing Together had come out. I was just going by the fanwiki description, they say that Jay is the first non-binary Sim and I guess they probably mean first explicitly non-binary Sim since Jay actually uses the term non-binary in one of their San Sequoia Secrets fluff texts. My b on that one.
Mila pops up like everywhere in my game for some reason so i think that’s why she’s so iconic to me lmao, Wolfgang I also find to be among the more memorable Pre-made Sims in the game. Gunther and Lucas are somewhat forgettable though.
I know you clearly stated that this is just your subjective list, and I am totally on board with hearing your opinion, but I really wanna put my subjective experience with each household you mention as I watch: Roomies - These guys, especially Mitchell, show up all the time when I play, though I'm almost certain it's because I really like the Parch Prospect neighborhood due to my obsession with Mid-Century Modern houses. I especially like renovating the premade houses Raffia Quinta and Springscape, so very often my sims will meet them all right away thanks to the Welcome Wagon. I also often actively seek out Mitchell to date because I think he's cute. That said, I 100% agree their house is unsalvageable levels of ugly. Free Spirits - The only reason this family is lodged in my memory is because when I first got the sims 4 it was the xbox version and I used Ulrike to cheese the legacy and alphabet legacy achievements through a series of adoptions, manual aging, and sending sims out in the snow naked to make room for the "next generation. I can't remember what I did with Maaike during that, but her name always reminds me of M'aiq the liar from Elder Scrolls. Karaoke Legends - I can't escape Akira, it seems like he's always everywhere I go, but he has good fashion sense imo so it's not too bad. Darling Walsh is my beloved non-binary child, they just fill me with a paternal affection even though I've never actually played out that of plotline, come to think about it I probably should. I can never remember Anime Beret's name, like I recognize her because she's got a distinct look, and it is a good look, but I just don't care. It's like there's some sort of perception filter around her. New Start - I like stealing Celia's house, and that's all I have to say about that. Well, I thought it's all I had to say until I continued the video and you informed me her name is actually Cecilia, so I guess we're on the same page with this one. Maybe I should pause after you've said your piece lol Robles-Ruano - No difference of opinion here, I never think about them. I didn't even know Jay was non-binary, I don't think I've ever even interacted with them. Tinker - I know them because they are lesbians, I also couldn't name anyone in this house but Tina though so I have to agree they are forgettable beyond being lesbians. I didn't even consider the possibility that the kid was a step-child, I think I just automatically assumed she was Tina and her wife's biological daughter because the sims lets you do that sort of thing and I do it all the time. Eclectic Arts - I only know Leslie by virtue of her being infected and often showing up with the Strangerville Welcome Wagon, I couldn't have even told you her name before watching this video. I didn't even realize she was in this household and assumed she was a townie. Sigworth - Dylan is my middle name and I have had Christie and Alexander Goth start dating in their teens many times so those two are firmly in the memorable category for me. Jess is definitely way more prominent though, really hard to disagree there. Nishidake - No notes here, I straight up didn't know Shigeru and Sachiko existed. Elderberry - These grandparents got the full brunt of Lilith Pleasant's switch to the Public Enemy aspiration in one of my playthroughs by vitue of living next-door to her. She stole half their house and fought Ekram and Eleanore countless times. I tried forcing them into a woohoo club with her to try and make them enemies with benefits and woohoo them to death, but they hated her so much they immediately kicked her out of the club. This was fun :)
I live for the chaos in your gameplay lmao In terms of Olive not being Tina’s daughter, I think it might be from a bygone era where they couldn’t make same-sex relationships have a child together when they were creating the Pre-made Sims, maybe. Idk, I just assume so because it’s the same deal with the Greenburg’s where Mary is considered Knox’ step-mom even though the family bio says she’s also his adopted mother. That’s my theory at least, not sure if it’s true or not.
@@grippnosims True, I just made frequent use of the ability to change whether a given sim could get pregnant or get other sims pregnant before we got science babies. Still do really, just gotta have my MPreg sometimes lol
Nope, you’re right, I was wrong lmao. Both Morgyn and Ash Harjo came out before Jay, and I believe Ash is considered the first official one since Morgyn’s pronouns were changed after HSY came out.
Yup! Though as another commenter pointed out, Jay is actually not the first one lmao, just the first one to use the term non-binary for themselves. Morgyn Ember from Realm of Magic was changed to be non-binary as well and there’s a bunch of pre-made tenants from For Rent who use they/them pronouns, like Aqua Song, Kennith Houston and Yena Azad.
Grest video but im prett sure that the " first non-binary character " thing is wrong. Morgyn Ember from Realm Of Magic was said to be made to be non-binary/genderfluid by the devs and had their pronouns changed to they/them as soon as the update for it came out
Yeah you’re right, I was wrong about that one, my b. Ash Harjo is actually the first official non-binary Sim as pointed out by another commenter, I believe the Morgyn update was after High School Years came out, or at least after Ash was revealed in the HSY trailer.
@@grippnosims true, but Morgyn DOES have custom gender settings + was made with being non-binary in mind, so even without the pronoun update they were clearly meant to be non-binary, so it is still technically Morgyn. Unless high school years came before ROM cuz I honestly forgot lol
The Kealoha family are mostly forgettable outside of Makota. He appears on the island living cover art and is one of those sims players get the hots for but the rest of the family just blends into the woodwork. I didn't even know till fairly recently but Duane isnt actually related to anyone in that house.
I’ve played in Sulani a fair bit so that’s probably why I remember them more then the average player. I’m also obsessed with the enigma that is Duane Talla, like where the hell did he come from? Why is he living with this random family? Who is he? I need to know! (but also kinda don’t wanna know, the mystery of it makes it more fun lmao)
Only reason why I remember the karaoke household is cause Akira is there and he makes cute babies. You’re right tho, these sims look like those premade sims you get in CAS when you start a new save.
Akira is a cutie but just so so boring, sorry to this man. He needs some style tips from Izzy Fabulous.
@@grippnosimsmost of my sim’s spouses are housewives/husbands so I don’t mind them not having a personality 😅 they’re just there to carry the legacy!
@@grippnosimsI think he’s actually pretty interesting. I find his jealousy quite endearing.
I often forgot Spencer-Kim-Lewis exist.
Omg same. The only way Ik that the daughter exists is bc one of my sims married her
i’ll never forget em, the wife was the first one i tried to romance and then i found out she wasn’t single 😀
I created a drama with the husband that I was having so much fun with but sadly I lost the save when I changed computer😢
Same
They're always a pain in the ass when I start a redesign save
I remember Gavin because he was the first sim to give one of my sims crabs after I installed Wonderful Whims 😅
lmaooo
What a skunk 😂
I only have base game and I will 100% back you up on the Roomies being forgettable. I have over 30 save files and I have never interacted with Gavin Richards. 😅
literally where is he? never seen him in my life
Yes, this video is literally the first I've heard of them. Interesting that this happens in base game too, as I'd have assumed it was all the expansions on mine swamping them.
I don't think I've ever seen him til I watched this and I've had the Sims 4 since release LOL
he is the first husband in my legacy challenge ive been playing for 6 years so I have a soft spot for him 🤭
So many sims I encounter in a save I'm like "oh, you're a neat-looking townie" and then they show up in a different save and I feel silly
If Tina Tinker has a wife and child why does she spend 95% of her life time standing at my front door? I was convinced she's a loner 😂
tina get ur shit together lmao
@@grippnosims i think I even romanced her in one of my save files and never noticed she was married 🤣
I forget the Jangs honestly. I've never seen them in game and the only reason I know Baako is because I'm obsessed with SimsTube.
I mainly find them memorable casue they all wear bright yellow outfits lmao. Baako also tends to pop up in my game pretty often, Anaya I actually see much less for whatever reason.
@@grippnosims that tracks. I don't know why I never see them. I think I'd remember them. Heck, I barely remember Anaya's name.
Try this. Go into CAS and swap their gender. I do this with Mila Munch and Penny Pizzaz in all my saves. They might become more memorable if you remake them.
Fun idea! Gotta try that next time I start a save.
dont do my girl penny like that😭😭
penny is lowkey so iconic though
Those two are litterally the supporting cast in my legacy rn
I don’t recognize most of the Sims you called recognizable, but know all of the ones you mentioned as forgettable 😅 The BFFs are icons, they’re always there to meet me when I play in their world. I recognize the Free Spirits household because I had to break them up when my Sim found out the one with dark hair wasn’t single 🤣 and Cecilia was my first wife in Cottage Living because she’s just so pretty for a premade Sim, I love her
Just goes to show how different each person’s game is. I never run into certain households when another person sees them literally everywhere lmaoo
Fun fact about Ulrike and how forgettable she is, she has the same three traits as Holly Alto from Get Famous. Creative, Perfectionist and Art lover. That's how blend she is, everything about her revolves around painting, I once had a legacy founder marry her so I at least got some money.
I always try to give more variety in the townies I interact with in each save so I did encounter some of the other families you mentioned.
It's kinda sad but for me the most forgettable townies (based on my gameplay) were pretty much everyone from Tomarang. I don't know how to explain, but because of the residential rentals, the game generates random townie families (single mom with teen and a child) and most of them look way more pretty and interesting than the official ones. So my sims always end up interacting with the random ones instead of the official families.
I remember after finishing a tomarang savefile and loving playing on the world and the community that my sims formed and going to a tierlist of all townies and bring like "Who are this people???" Probably the only one I interacted with was Cam Sadya but only cause I was needing a extra kid for a friend group.
Yeah, I think Ulrike needed like Mean or something instead of Perfectionist to give her a bit more spice. The only interesting thing about her is that she’s a part of the Renegades and her design I think is actually pretty solid. Otherwise, she doesn’t have a lot going on.
I’d have to disagree with you on the Tomarang families, I find all of them to be quite memorable personally. Large part of it is probably that they all have queer narratives within them and the Tomarang Truth feature adds more depth to them. I also like that two of them are multi-generational, those families always stick out more in my mind.
Btw most of the tenant options are actually not randomly generated, there are pre-made options available for the players. The household you mentioned f.e. is I think the Brock household composed of single mom Nancy Brock and her two kids Julie and Johnny. There’s quite a bit of pre-made tenant household, one of the rare instances where the devs put in some extra effort (if only they could put that effort into gameplay performance as well).
@@grippnosimsOh no I didn't mean the Brock family I mean the actual randomly generated ones that only exist in that savefile. The game keeps spawning them and my child sims had a whole family group (and yes Tomarang is pretty queer, most of the ones that spawn were all lesbians or bisexual), from the rental premade the ones that really caught my attention were the Lee family and I even married him in that savefil. But I've been giving Tomarang a chance in a different savefile and I kinda agree that they can be unique specially with the Tomarang Truth and dialogues talking about the past.
@@WesleiOliveira628 Oh okay, I actually didn’t know the game would spawn in randomly generated households with more than one Sim, I thought it was only single Sim households. Maybe the exception is Residential Rentals so you don’t only have single Sim options if you run out of the Pre-made Tenants. If so, that’s pretty cool that they thought of that.
I love the Lees, Minsung is a certified cutie. I’d definitely encourage you to explore the Tomarang households more because I think they’re quite well fleshed out. Arturo Linh is one of my fave Pre-mades as he has that dumb Sims energy that I love (he’s this gay astronaut that’s convinced there’s bears on the moon and made it his life mission to find them to prove it, to his husband’s dismay). I also have a personal bias towards Kasem Bun Ma due to his history here on my channel haha.
@@grippnosims Fun fact, Selvadorada Tomarang and Mt Komorebi are the only worlds that spawn actual families. Tomarang spawns three people household (a mother, a teen and a child), Selvadorada is sometimes is a single parent and a kid (except for Skeletons, they normally will have five sims families but are all hidden from your game so you don't have Skeletons walking around in Willow Creek when you're back home) and in Mt Komorebi during the Festival of Snow and depending how populate is your world it can spawn a five people household (two parents, a teen, a kid and a toddler). I always pay attention to those because I like to give them makeovers and add them to the world as extra households. Sometime I save them to my library so they show up in different saves. But Tomarang was having so many new families that I barely paid attention to the official premades. Right now I have a new save with my sim married to Thi Lihn so I'll probably try to check out more of her parents before they die (but they have like only a week left I think)
@@WesleiOliveira628 Oh wow that’s cool, definitely didn’t know any of that lmao. Thanks for the info!
As someone who only plays with the pre-made households this list is crazy to me, but only because of the storylines they had in my save file!
J Huntington III (Roomies) had a friends with benefits situation with Zoe Patel (Roomies) until he meets Dina Caliente and accidentally got her pregnant. They got married and cheated on each other throughout most of their marriage.
Zoe got married to Johnny Zest and they have twin girls, something that brought Johnny closer to his family (The Landgraabs), after he became a successful comedian.
Mitchell is an asexual gay sim in my game and Gavin got married to Nina Caliente, who lied to him about her daughter being Gavin's child instead of Don Lothario's.
Maaike and Ulrike got engaged in my save, but Ulrike ended up cheating on her with Candy Behr and left Maaike at the altar for Candy. That was crazy!
Akira and Miko were also friends with benefits, also resulting in an accidental pregnancy and got married because of their daughter. Darling transitioned (ftm) and became Devin.
Cecilia Kang (New Start) had an affair with Thomas Watson from Cottage Living and they had a son, but Thomas refused to claim him as his child, because of his marriage to Rahmi. Rahmi eventually found out though, resulting in a divorce, her moving out and taking the kids with her. Thomas asked Cecilia to move in afterwards because the man cannot do household chores on his own lmao
The Electic Arts household happily lived in a polyamorous relationship, Christie (Jess' daughter) moved out as a teenager, because she couldn't handle her parents' secrets anymore, and I went full rags to riches.
Kaori got pregnant as a teenager by Kiyoshi Ito, Shigeru kicked her out and both Sachiko and Shigeru died before they ever made peace with Kaori and met their grandchildren.
With the Elderberry's Rohan went to university, lived in the dorms, and fell in love with a man, despite having a long-term girlfriend he met as a teen and thinking he was straight. When he came back and told Ekram and Eleanore Ekram and him got in a huge fight and Ekram died of rage. Rohan and his boyfriend moved in to support Eleanore and they all lived a happy life together.
Insane storylines, I'm well aware! But it was so fun and gave them all so much personality
Iconic ngl, I live for the drama of your gameplay
This is how you play with townies! Now I’m tempted to start a save where all I do is play with the premade sims and sims that maxis made then make them more interesting through gameplay
@@iamsongforsomeone994I love this idea! I think I’m gonna join you
ok bc why is the roomies' house SO ugly
literally, did they even try with the base game builds?
I've actually interacted with more of these premades after giving them a refresh and adding some depth to them. Ive placed majority of sims in clubs so i always see them around. For example, i have a woohoo club with don lothario, j huntington and other non commital sims. Or a gardening club with some of the elderly sims. I even have a solving strangerville club with dylan sigworth, erwin pieres and the eclectic arts household and their hangout spot is at the local library.
Oo, that sounds like a lot of fun, I definitely have to use the Club feature more
for me the most forgettable households are the ones in sulani
no cuz same I could not even tell you a single sims name. except for that mermaid girl that’s in all of the promos but she’s not even in a household 😭
I only remember the one dude with the Mohawk because, when I first started testing out island living, he was the main partner of my sim. She cheated a lot but he never caught her
I’ve played a lot in Sulani so that’s probably why they stick in my mind a bit more. The Hoapili household though is definitely a little forgettable imo.
@@itsmattq there's a male mermaid too, who I ended up playing because he was dating one of my Sims, and the mermaid girl immediately found him and she moved in the next day.
the only reason I care about the karaoke legends is because I always confuse Darling with a boy whenever she appears in community lots
Love Darling ngl, she sticks in my mind infinitely more than Akira and Miko for sure. Also, who are her parents? Why is she rooming with two random adults? She’s an enigma.
Tbh in some of my save files I’ve made darling trans
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I make Darling non binary.
In my games Darling uses They/Them pronouns.
Actually now that I think about it, so do most of my Sims.
Darling is definitely genderqueer-coded to me ngl
@@pinkdiamond1847 I agree, Darling just radiates non-binary energy. I'm convinced the only reason they aren't classed as non-binary by default is because they/them pronouns simply weren't in the game until HSY.
Jay isn’t the first canonical non-binary character. Morgyn from realm of magic was confirmed as NB before being NB was even an option in the sims
Yeah I was super wrong about that one lmao. Even Ash Harjo predates Jay. I was going off the fanwiki which states them to be the first non-binary Sim, though I now see that they meant explicitly non-binary since they’re the first to use the term non-binary in-game through their Sequoia Secrets while Morgyn and Ash are just implied through outside information and their pronoun preferences. Though I guess that just strengthens my point of them being forgettable since they don’t even have the distinction of being the first non-binary Sim haha
Morgyn mention!! ✨•°☆°~
Whoa. I thought this video was like from a year ago from a channel with a few thousand subscribers. Keep this up! You’re going to pop off soon
Thank you so much! Yeah, the ever elusive algorithm hasn’t been especially kind to me so far lmao, but this video somehow made its way onto people’s feed so I hope I’ll get more eyeballs on my future (and past) videos.
This was awesome! Half these sims I really had no idea existed lol. Honestly the ONLY reason I remember Koari is bc she’s always getting in the way of my relationship with Kiyoshi lol
lmao Kiyoshi is definitely one of the most attractive Sims in The Sims 4 ngl, Kaori doesn’t deserve him
After seeing so many horrifying townies I just appreciate the household units because at least they are coherent lol
I only know the tinker household because of the child, she‘s friends with a child from one of my households and constantly comes over
Olive Tinker deserves the world
Whrn you said the roomies household, I was going to objrct thrn realised i was thinking of the BBF house instead.
Though I do always remember onr of them looks like JonTron.
don’t do Mitchell dirty like that lmaooo
There’s probably many of these sims that I’ve evicted to make way for my own characters without giving them a second thought. But, one of my sims recently went to uni twice and kept bumping into Eleanor Elderberry. I think she was a professor or student and part of one of my characters’ societies. And ‘cause she a pretty lady with pretty hair and has such a strong name, of course he befriended her. She might’ve even been his BFF at uni. She seemed to just be everywhere. Every social night at the pub. Every society gathering (though, not the secret society). But, pretty much nowhere outside of uni. And she stuck around for two whole degrees! Had no idea she had a husband or grandson, though
I remember the Nishidake and Elderberry household often bc I always pair the teens together in my games. It makes sense to me they’d at the very least be friends since they’re the only teens being raised by their grandparents
That’s a cute pairing, tho rip Kiyoshi since he’s supposed to be Kaori’s canonical boyfriend lmao
I really appreciate those footage that you recorded for the commentary, it’s really add quite a lot to the video!
Thank you! Took me hours to record but it was worth it for the result lmao
I agreed with most of them.
But all 3 Nishidake's especially Kaori are everywhere in my game's (I dont play with lifespans) and Elenore Elderberry always ends up as a food stall vendor in all my games.
The families i do forget about:
The Rasoya's I forget about both fairly easily.
The wolf family in Moonwood Mill (The Volkovs i think?) Always moves out of their home.
The Hoapilis: The younger adult one easily fades into the background. And the elder is more likely spotted in San Myshuno than Sulani
Bess Sterling's (husband, boyfriend, Roommate or whatever) specifically: I swear neither of them leave their home and the only reason I know Bess is because she constantly calls for donations.
Playing with aging off definitely allows for the elder Sims more time to shine, maybe I’ll try that at some point. Agree with your list, most of them don’t stick out too much, aside from the Volkov’s imo. I run into them a lot and Kristopher is an absolute icon in my eyes. I think that’s another difference with playing with aging on vs off, the occults will stick out more for players that play with aging on since they don’t die and will pop up periodically throughout multiple generations of your played family. I’m on Gen 6 of my Legacy Challenge and the Volkov’s are still hanging out in my save, as are Vlad and Lilith (Caleb died randomly two generations ago rip).
Had no clue so many of these sims outside of BG existed much less had families until a youtuber I watched interacted with them. Some of them I had no clue which packs they were from until this video.
Y all remember Ned Whalen exist from ads The Sims 4 2014 or 2015 ?
I honestly never understood why the Sims they made for marketing never made it into the game proper. I feel like they should just add them as Townies in the base game, it’s kinda weird that Alex Moyer is the only base game Pre-made Townie.
I was convinced the robles-ruano family was from high school years, they're so forgettable that I thought they were from a different pack
Literally same. I had no clue they were from growing together until this video
Rohan Elderberry had a handful of children in my game, but his mean son Jason fathered two evil sons. The Elderberrys are bad news!
Maybe it’s for the best that I tend to forget about them lmaoo
I absolutely loved this video, I have memorised every single townie from Sims 4 worlds and I'm happy that someone is making content with them :D I definetely stay here for longer! You've got a new subscriber ^^
And I have to catch up on previous videos :D
Glad to have you on board! I’ve definitely got plans to make more videos about the pre-mades so stay tuned I guess lmao
Cecilia Kang is memorable to me because she's one of the few non-randomly generated townie NPCs that are single. Yeah she's dating the creature guy but he's even more forgettable. Last time I played my Sim dated her briefly, got her pregnant with twins, then autonomously cheated on her in front of her.
I believe they actually jut went on a date that went poorly (in Cecilia’s eyes, for Michael it went great lmaoo)
I remember every single townie (with houses) until Growing Together, then I stopped paying attention a little.
Growing Together is definitely where the quality of the Expansion Packs took a bit of a nosedive (*cough* For Rent *cough*)
Kaori Nishidake is from SSX Tricky! She's an EA reference :D (She might be in other SSX games but I remember Tricky most).
To be fair about Rohan, he’s usually easily found a the high school, and he’s great for if I’m trying to pair up my teen sims.
I don’t think I’ve ever encountered him in Copperdale personally, usually I just get the HSY and Base Game teens. Also Aurelio Robles, he’s like always my classmate lmao.
NGL, I did not recognize Sachiko in the thumbnail at all. I thought she was a townie. 😂 You are so right. She and Shigeru died in my save before I got a chance to play them. Poor Kaori was all alone.
The unfortunate case of Elder Sims, they just die so quickly if you’re not playing on long lifespan or with aging off
i agree with this list aside from the karaoke legends. akiro is a dealer in my save file 😭 i used to have miko as my sims best friend when the pack was new and darling is like one of the only teens in this game so she’s invited to all the teen functions lol
Maybe the newer packs, especially HSY, has reduced Darling’s memorability a bit since we’ve gotten so many more teen Pre-mades. I feel like I never see her, not even when I go to high school with my teens.
I agree on most of these and I'm treating this as a suggestion list for Sims to play with in my saves.
The one exception would be the Karaoke family who always seem to turn up in my saves, particularly Darling, who has different genders across my games.
Also, with Strangetown, I tend to bring in the Sims 2 Strangetown families from the gallery, so haven't paid much attention to the ones that come with the pack. The exception would probably be the guy who lives in the plane (Cavill?)
The thing with elders is a good reason to turn off auto-aging non-played houses. I know it's less realistic, but then you can get to know these pre-made Sims and even play them at some later date as they were meant to be. Hey, I'm an OG Sims player who is used to my Sims either not aging or being frozen in time when I'm not playing them!
Yeah, I think making this video made me realize I should probably try doing an aging off let’s play at some point. I usually don’t as I find Sims aging to feel like I’m progressing in my gameplay and I often use in-game age as kind of a time limit or barrier. The trade off, of course, elder pre-mades die really early on lmao.
I always make both Tina and Yasmin mothers of Olive. Same goes with the Greenburg family.
Justice for Mary tbh, even the family bio says she and Blossom adopted Knox together. I think it’s kinda cute for Olive to be Tina’s stepdaughter though, there’s not nearly enough step relationships in the game imo. Basically just the Harjo household from what I can remember.
I was kinda surprised to see Karaoke Legends but I think I remember them just because I used to play in the apartment next to theirs a lot and I saw their Welcome Wagon a ton of times
Miko's haircut helps a little ngl
I don’t think I’ve played much in their neighborhood, I usually default to the Arts Quarter or the Spice Market when I live in San Myshuno so that could definitely factor in their inclusion on this list
Holy moly, no lies told
I loved playing with the Eclectic Arts household! Leslie and Mark married had a child, so did Alice and that Erwin guy, and the two children ended up together too xD
Their house is just so ugly that I haven’t really wanted to play them lmaooo
when i redo my worlds and townies before i play, i usually delete the roomies because i hate the fact that theyre a reference and not a real household lol
They seriously need a refresh, their storyline is just nonexistent
Akira had all my sims babies
He’s got those good genes, can’t argue with that
I personally think that any household that came after Discover University is very forgettable (with a few exceptions). A lot of times before sims looked intentional (probably because quite a few of them were in the franchise for a long time), but the new packs seems like they just pressed ‘randomize’ button few times and then added the clothes from the new pack. I literally could not name any of the people from San Sequoia, Tomarang or even Copperdale, I have no idea who lives there
I’d have to disagree, I find most of the more recent Pre-made Sim to be a lot more fleshed out than the earlier ones actually but I respect your opinion
I literally stole Rohan and have been using there family as a supernatural story line along with Becca Clarke 8:50
Agree with most, but I love the Sigworth household. Dylan and Christie balance nutty, possessed Jess! Give them another chance!
Next time I play in StrangerVille I’ll try to make the effort to interact with them!
"Also, their house is ugly"😂
I meannnnn am I wrong?
@@grippnosims 🤣🤣🤣
I only remember the free spirits household bc one of them died when i first bought get together and it was like the first time i saw neighborhood stories lol
How and who?
@@fakevyond I think it was Ulrike idk their names and she like burnt or smth
@@szastan0980 sad. 😓
Only reason I know all these is cause of the countless hours I’ve spend redesigning every single household lol.
doing the lord’s work, we all know Maxis aint doing it at least
I've been playing the Sims 4 for years and I don't think I've ever even seen a single member of the Roomies household out and about 😅
I honestly forgot they existed
Literally never see them aside from J who occasionally pops up here and there
I love the girl sim with the short blonde hair from strangerville. I had my sim marry her but they had to divorce due to her very frequent possession that would happen every other hour 😭🙄
Gotta go defeat that mother plant lmaooo
alice, rohan, kaori, and travis scott have married one of my sims kids lol
Who's the most forgettable? Well, I'll tell you one thing, I have a long list of pre-made sims I hate; for one reason or another. There are two kinds of sims I hate: 1. The kind I wish bad things for. I play out them failing at life. 2. The kind I hate so much that I kill them with violent mods every time I start a new save file.
just discovered ur channel im watching every video now
Hope you like the content!
bruh I had discover university for a good while and I have never seen the elderberry family in any of my saves, I didn't even know they existed 💀💀 but tbf, ig i haven't played the pack much... or at all-
Discover University is my least fave EP so same lmao
1:14 Don't disrespect Mitchell it's the bro
I only know about Tina's family because my sim got her to break up with her wife and olive comes over to see her now and again.
Poor Yasemin lmaoo
karaoke legends are kinda iconic to me, because I love miko ojo and i headcanon darling as trans which made him stick out to me
I like their designs, it’s just their story that’s kinda weak imo. I feel they deserve more than just karaoke.
its so hilarious that we know all these people's full government names this comment section just feels like scrolling through nextdoor
government names lmaooooo
I didn’t know that was the Scott’s story! In my games, Simon is just the sim my sims always ended up hooking up with (sorry Sarah)
Simon is a cutie so very valid, step aside Sara
All of them.
I never forget about the roomies because all my sims romance Zoe
4:50 what about that teenage from highschool years? I am pretty sure their pre-set pronouces are "they/them"
exactly, Ash Harjo is non-binary
Oh yeah, I totally forgot about Ash Harjo lmaoo. Morgyn Ember from Realm of Magic would also predate Jay, but I believe they weren’t officially updated to be non-binary until after Growing Together had come out. I was just going by the fanwiki description, they say that Jay is the first non-binary Sim and I guess they probably mean first explicitly non-binary Sim since Jay actually uses the term non-binary in one of their San Sequoia Secrets fluff texts. My b on that one.
It’s funny you say the Munch family iconic cause to me they’re are 100 in the “who?????” Category
Mila pops up like everywhere in my game for some reason so i think that’s why she’s so iconic to me lmao, Wolfgang I also find to be among the more memorable Pre-made Sims in the game. Gunther and Lucas are somewhat forgettable though.
the most forgettable household is definitely Gupold family
Wait, which one is that one?
Ikr! Also in many of my saves Jay Robles dies instantly so how can I remember that family... xD
But I remember Miko Ojo because I like her a lot.
Same, I definitely will be keeping more of an eye out for them now that I’ve made this video lmao
I know you clearly stated that this is just your subjective list, and I am totally on board with hearing your opinion, but I really wanna put my subjective experience with each household you mention as I watch:
Roomies - These guys, especially Mitchell, show up all the time when I play, though I'm almost certain it's because I really like the Parch Prospect neighborhood due to my obsession with Mid-Century Modern houses. I especially like renovating the premade houses Raffia Quinta and Springscape, so very often my sims will meet them all right away thanks to the Welcome Wagon. I also often actively seek out Mitchell to date because I think he's cute. That said, I 100% agree their house is unsalvageable levels of ugly.
Free Spirits - The only reason this family is lodged in my memory is because when I first got the sims 4 it was the xbox version and I used Ulrike to cheese the legacy and alphabet legacy achievements through a series of adoptions, manual aging, and sending sims out in the snow naked to make room for the "next generation. I can't remember what I did with Maaike during that, but her name always reminds me of M'aiq the liar from Elder Scrolls.
Karaoke Legends - I can't escape Akira, it seems like he's always everywhere I go, but he has good fashion sense imo so it's not too bad. Darling Walsh is my beloved non-binary child, they just fill me with a paternal affection even though I've never actually played out that of plotline, come to think about it I probably should. I can never remember Anime Beret's name, like I recognize her because she's got a distinct look, and it is a good look, but I just don't care. It's like there's some sort of perception filter around her.
New Start - I like stealing Celia's house, and that's all I have to say about that. Well, I thought it's all I had to say until I continued the video and you informed me her name is actually Cecilia, so I guess we're on the same page with this one. Maybe I should pause after you've said your piece lol
Robles-Ruano - No difference of opinion here, I never think about them. I didn't even know Jay was non-binary, I don't think I've ever even interacted with them.
Tinker - I know them because they are lesbians, I also couldn't name anyone in this house but Tina though so I have to agree they are forgettable beyond being lesbians. I didn't even consider the possibility that the kid was a step-child, I think I just automatically assumed she was Tina and her wife's biological daughter because the sims lets you do that sort of thing and I do it all the time.
Eclectic Arts - I only know Leslie by virtue of her being infected and often showing up with the Strangerville Welcome Wagon, I couldn't have even told you her name before watching this video. I didn't even realize she was in this household and assumed she was a townie.
Sigworth - Dylan is my middle name and I have had Christie and Alexander Goth start dating in their teens many times so those two are firmly in the memorable category for me. Jess is definitely way more prominent though, really hard to disagree there.
Nishidake - No notes here, I straight up didn't know Shigeru and Sachiko existed.
Elderberry - These grandparents got the full brunt of Lilith Pleasant's switch to the Public Enemy aspiration in one of my playthroughs by vitue of living next-door to her. She stole half their house and fought Ekram and Eleanore countless times. I tried forcing them into a woohoo club with her to try and make them enemies with benefits and woohoo them to death, but they hated her so much they immediately kicked her out of the club.
This was fun :)
I live for the chaos in your gameplay lmao
In terms of Olive not being Tina’s daughter, I think it might be from a bygone era where they couldn’t make same-sex relationships have a child together when they were creating the Pre-made Sims, maybe. Idk, I just assume so because it’s the same deal with the Greenburg’s where Mary is considered Knox’ step-mom even though the family bio says she’s also his adopted mother. That’s my theory at least, not sure if it’s true or not.
@@grippnosims True, I just made frequent use of the ability to change whether a given sim could get pregnant or get other sims pregnant before we got science babies. Still do really, just gotta have my MPreg sometimes lol
@@CliffCutterActual mpreg and genderqueer rep is the main reason I prefer The Sims 4 over the other games in the series lmao
Wasn't the first nonbinary Sim Morgyn from Realm of Magic? I could totally be wrong, so feel free to correct me. Amazing video, though!
Nope, you’re right, I was wrong lmao. Both Morgyn and Ash Harjo came out before Jay, and I believe Ash is considered the first official one since Morgyn’s pronouns were changed after HSY came out.
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New Girl 😭😭
THE SIMS HAVE LORE?!
always have babes
also there was a canon nonbinary sim??!?!! and i'm just NOW finding out????? 😭
Yup! Though as another commenter pointed out, Jay is actually not the first one lmao, just the first one to use the term non-binary for themselves. Morgyn Ember from Realm of Magic was changed to be non-binary as well and there’s a bunch of pre-made tenants from For Rent who use they/them pronouns, like Aqua Song, Kennith Houston and Yena Azad.
Grest video but im prett sure that the " first non-binary character " thing is wrong. Morgyn Ember from Realm Of Magic was said to be made to be non-binary/genderfluid by the devs and had their pronouns changed to they/them as soon as the update for it came out
Yeah you’re right, I was wrong about that one, my b. Ash Harjo is actually the first official non-binary Sim as pointed out by another commenter, I believe the Morgyn update was after High School Years came out, or at least after Ash was revealed in the HSY trailer.
@@grippnosims true, but Morgyn DOES have custom gender settings + was made with being non-binary in mind, so even without the pronoun update they were clearly meant to be non-binary, so it is still technically Morgyn. Unless high school years came before ROM cuz I honestly forgot lol
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The Kealoha family are mostly forgettable outside of Makota. He appears on the island living cover art and is one of those sims players get the hots for but the rest of the family just blends into the woodwork. I didn't even know till fairly recently but Duane isnt actually related to anyone in that house.
I’ve played in Sulani a fair bit so that’s probably why I remember them more then the average player. I’m also obsessed with the enigma that is Duane Talla, like where the hell did he come from? Why is he living with this random family? Who is he? I need to know! (but also kinda don’t wanna know, the mystery of it makes it more fun lmao)
Why do I really love Maaike Haas? ❤🧡💛💚💙💜🤎🖤
She’s got a cool design but jut not much lore which makes her forgettable imo
@@grippnosims I like her name!
I have a fun game! Lets pretend to be the Free Spirts!