We were wrong about Life By You and idk what to think...
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- čas přidán 5. 08. 2024
- Life By You new gameplay features (or lack thereof) have been suggested and idk how to feel. I'm talking about what I think of the current state of Life By You Development.
Life By You by Paradox is a life simulation game. What do you think of Life By You gameplay for now?
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We should give critiques to this game by thinking of it as a life simulation game instead of a sims-like game. Also I agree when you said there needs to be more consequences in life simulators
Im kinda already tired of people hating on this game because it doesn’t include specific things that are in the sims 4. It’s still being developed.
death and weight management are part of everyday life things that you would expect in a LIFE simulation game. some of the decisions the devs are making are complete nonsense and you at least have to agree with that
I feel like consumers are so entitled these days. They want everything, and they don't want to pay for it. If something is not perfect, they pour out their torches, and acting like they are forced to buy something they don't want. People need to chill.
AND it includes stuff Sims doesn't have. We're allowed to enjoy both.
@@flies_of_fire You have to remember it’s still in development. It may or may not add those features down the line. It may also do things a bit different than life sims we’re used to. Because of that I’m withholding my judgment until it’s further developed.
@@flies_of_fire meh, weight management is so annoying. I don't want my sims changing. I don't care it's not realistic. This LIFE simulation is still a GAME. Also mods will be a thing.
People forget that this is the first launch of the game. It's not going to be on the Sims 4 level immediately.
This! People just gets too hype for the next Sims Clone that they forget it's not the Sims. It is it's own game
Man, I really hope it's going to be nothing like the Sims 4 😢😂
There are lots of 1st that aren't crap not a good enough excuse
Do we even want it on “sims 4” level tho..????? Maybe sims 3 but definitely not 4
As I understand, the devs said the weight thing won't be on the game duting the first early acess release, no the full game. Bunch of stuff won't be on early access at first because is not finished/polished yet. People need to chill, lol.
The game is still new and developing, just because its gonna be released in early access DOESNT mean its going to be ready/ have EVERY piece of content everyone wants. Idk how were judging aspects of the game when its still in development? This isnt the sims4, its Life By You.
Just like everyone loves to say for paralives, we have to wait.
I completely agree
We've been waiting on paralives for years now, I've completely lost interest.
@@katvsdaedreamz8628 what costs money in game right now??
@@RedRoseSeptember22 same here
@@RedRoseSeptember22 big project, only a few people doing it. It's going to be years still. This is why game companies don't announce new games until same year they will release. Sims 2 development started in 2000, but was not announced until much closer to launch
Everyone is too hyped for the next "The Sims" clones that they forget this isn't an EA game. This is a different company with different devs, different everything, and that's good. We need different life sim games that isn't just EA. This is a game that is new, and not even out yet. Perhaps they will add weight, and muscle change in the future. Look at the Sims 4 babies were objects for the longest longest - too long until recently. Games updates, and it's not going to spit out everything right at the start. It will probably come out in early access, and then later on before or even after full launch it could have weight and muscle features for the gym. Just don't get too hyped over a game, because in the end you will be disappointed by something no matter what. I'm looking forward to the game, but I won't get it straight away. Probably a year or so depending on everyone gameplays.
By then EA will have fifty useless kits, 0 new stuff packs, 2 game packs, and 1 expansions, because they love to make useless kits instead of listening to their community, and customers. I do hope this game becomes way better than The Sims. We do need a change, perhaps it'll be Paralives which I do look forward too as well.
so true!
I agree. We have to be careful of hype. Look at what happened with hello games and the saga of no man's sky or cyberpunk 2077.
paradox is also a scammer
They’ve talked about stress management and building relationships, so I think that’s currently the idea behind sending your human to the gym
They also mentioned career progression so I think it will be like the sims where you need to be a certain level to progress in a career
@@sinkalaj the more I think about it the more I wonder how much I really want to manage weight for my characters. I never let my sims have dessert, how pathetic for them
i didn’t even realize it was broken, time for three meals and dessert!
@@joyfulgirl91 Yeah the weight thing isn't so great but a general fitness and stress management would be good, but the weight control is a big problem in Sims 4 cause for some stupid reason, when you play different households and you visit one of your other ones, they always make a white cake to eat, I always have to make my visiting sim throw away the cakes or take the entire cake so my other sims don't gain a bunch of weight, otherwise I'm always having to use Full edit mode in CAS to set their weight to the right level, especially when I have a household of models that have to maintain a certain weight limit for their photographer to earn money for their household and business, EA made it stupidly over challenging, also does working out even lose weight in Sims 4, cause it seems like gaining weight is really easy, but losing the weight on the workout equipment is almost impossible, also, if you have mods for child fitness, you can make the treadmill one step smaller for children, and it will fit them perfectly at standard child size if you haven't changed their size with sliders or mods.
@@onidaaitsubasa4177 But if the weight isn't impacted, what's the point?
They answered this by saying that initially the weight loss/gain feature will not be available in early release but i am sure they will include it before the official release..
It's world based verses household based. I expect it to be much more like Sims 2/3 than Sims 4. Honestly I expect both games will exist just fine, though it will force Sims 4 to up its game which is a good thing.
"We don't really know what we want" is 100% the best way to say it. It worties me when i see so much of the life sim community judging everything through the lense of Sims. It will suffocate the development of new titles trying to innovate the genre or push for something different. I believe that's also true when we're talking about these games running requirements. We're used to Sims being able to run on laptops, and assume that's the way it should be, but realistically, most modern games need a PC or console to run for the most part. Games are becoming more demanding b/c of their graphics and depth of systems. The lifesim genre is eventually going to have to move beyond needing to contain themselves for low spec laptops. Especially with how many features it's clear the community dreams about being in these games.
The fact that the bodies don't change by working out in the gym really doesn't bother me that much. If they can become more skilled or gain a higher tolerance for strenuous activities and be able to socialize and meet other people, that's what I think counts. I think LBY is going to have a lot of flexibility to match different people's playstyles. If you want to stick to one family and play generationally, you can, or if you want to play rotationally, you can, or if you want to start with an empty world and build a town, you can. I do hope the "humans'" facial features come into better focus as it seems like they all have pantyhose on their heads, but I can adjust if the gameplay is there. I'm really looking forward to dabbling with it when the early access comes out.
yeah it doesn’t bother me that much like… there could be skill gains instead or something idk
I literally asked the devs the same thing - what's the point of going to the gym if your character doesn't physically change. They were nice to reply and say that you can work on your fitness skill and by upping your fitness skill, you unlock new exercises, promotions in the fitness career path, and fitness skill quests. So it's ot totally a waste of time.
Honestly it's really excited that the producers are taking feed back so many game companies especially do not listen to their fans at all so it's just nice to see that they are listening and actually care about the people that are going to be playing their game
Each household having its own unique back story and quests is a wonderful idea! Submit it to them!
I'm really hoping for quests!
With the Foundation looking like it's Solid, this can only get BETTER as time goes on. As they introduce new things to the game and as modders create their magic ..our imagination is the only thing holding us back.
Although it is early in development I am hoping that once the foundation has been solidified (and unlike Sims 4 it looks like the foundation for LBY will be solid) I am going to need the CONSEQUENCES for every choice that is made in game. I need spice, drama and even mundane gameplay.
I have a feeling Life By You will be everything I've been waiting for in simulation games. I want rich gameplay with adult situations I can get lost in playing for hours and never being bored. I don't want a "pretty" game I want gritty.
I 100% agree with you. I got bored of sims 4 because it's too pretty. I love more gritty looking worlds. Sims 3 was amazing for this as you could edit the world or even create your own. I live in a city in the UK, in an area that's being gentrified and I really want to create something like that. I just can't do that in the Sims 4. It looks like this will have a mature rating, it's a PEGI 16 here in the UK (so 16 years+), the highest rating is an 18 which is rare as this is reserved for extreme violence and graphic adult content.
@@sinkalaj oh yes that would be wonderful playing in a town based in UK. I want true homeless people, handicap people, extremes of underweight and overweight, teen pregnancy etc. Maybe one day 😔
With all the customization options already revealed, would love a toggle for the weight management system tbh. Because sometimes I play the Sims like a real life / slice of life thing, sometimes I create my own world with characters from books, movies etc. and want them to look exactly like their faceclaim forever. Life by You? Life by Me? Please give me all the toggles.
Agree with you about the town simulator label! I’m here for them setting themselves apart from the sims.
hope you feel better satch
I miss sims 2 where the consequences in the game felt balanced. For example the sim would get fat if you kept eating pizza or chips/snacks ect. So it makes more sense. Where in sims 4 its a complicated mess where you eat totally normal food and you just get fat no matter what you do so you feel forced to exercise although there is no excessive or fatty/sugary eating
Only garden salad is marked as healthy food for whatever reason. If you eat garden salad for every single meal, they won't get fat. Eating a different salad? Bad for you, here comes the weight
IMAGINE ALL THE CRAZY STUFF YOU CAN CREATE AND CHALLENGES WHICH IN THE SIMS U GONNA NEED TONS OF MODS AND CHEATS TO DO, IT'S SO CRAZY I WANT THIS GAME I WANT IT NOW
I love your point about we dont always know that we want something until we get it. I didnt know I would like a town simulator but now its suggested it sounds exciting. I do want something diifferent so I can enjoy different games depending on how I feel.
The weight system in the Sims 4 is so broken, I have a very active Sim who takes care of her cows & chickens, gardens, paints, does her laundry by hand, never sits around watching tv or computer, eats once a day and she still ends up fat at the end of the week if I don’t make her go to a gym all the time. In the Sims 3 I had the opposite problem, my Sims kept getting too skinny if I didn’t make them eat dessert. So honestly I’m fine if they don’t have a weight system, because I’d rather have none than annoying ones, just give us good sliders & leave it at that.
praying the graphics are improved
Absolutely 🙏🏼
Honestly I think that we should be waiting until the game FULLY launches to make any judgements. Even when we get access to it this fall, it's still going to be a pre- release. I think at this point Simmers are just way to used to being far to judgy far to quickly. Give it a chance.
I still dont know how i feel about this game
ok
@@SimlikeitHot totally agree with you
In Sims 4 I don't really like that all my sims who gets into yoga (wellness) gets super ripped...
Hope you feel better asap! I personally am so excited for this simulation game!
As much as I love Paradox games and want to see some competition in this space, I doubt this will be a Sims killer. Its scope is much larger so it's a necessity there will be sacrifices made on the microscale.
Its doubtful this will ever come to console, and Paradox is nearly on the level of EA when it comes to numerous paid DLCs. Base game Cities:Skylines or Stellaris feels *alot* like base Sims 4.
I bet there will be some tie-in with Skylines much as you could make Sims 2 worlds in SimCity 4, which is pretty exciting. I'm looking forward to it but I've tempered my expectations.
If you remember in the trailer, there was a beach bathroom that opened - they have lots that take the entire space for a building and blends into the non-lot spaces. So it's a public bathroom, for homeless characters or if you have to pee in the middle of exploring.
I get the impression that LBY is more of a macro life simulator game whereas sims 4 is more micro
I like to just manage and deal with one household so I’m nervous for LBY in that it will be more to manage and do. But I’m also excited because it’s not something you can do as much in the sims 4.
It’ll be interesting to see what Paralives does in comparison too and what project Renee will become
I won't know for sure until I play it, but I'm up to everything they showed us for now. But I advise anyone to wait till it's actually out, before deciding on how they feel about this game
When I first heard of Life By You, I thought: "This is going to be Simsville!" Now that more and more info is coming out, this seems to be truer. I think they're going more world-based.
I still can’t get into sims so I hope these new games like life by you and paralives.,are much better
This is basically my mind set as well.. Im tired of the emptiness of TS4 and ready for a different simulation game
@@quinlemons474 i mean I literally can’t get in. I didn’t realise what I wrote could be taken another way until I read your comment. I keep getting the message that something is wrong on their end and I need to try again later.
@@SunShine-qk4rb LOL, you definitely could have been more clear
@@SunShine-qk4rbWOW - that's a darn shame that you cant get in.. Something needs to be done about that EA app
@@quinlemons474 yeah,I love it for storytelling
This is what I’ve been saying all along! Everyone is doing this with Paralives too and all it’s going to do is disappoint you all on these games release days that they’re not a continuation of the sims but better. Both of them shoulder some of the blame, they’ve each been very careful to show you all features that the sims 4 doesn’t have in order to hook you in. Just go in with an empty slate, don’t expect it to be the sims 4 2.0.
But like….they’re both gonna be better than whatever EA gives us lmao
You basically manage a life, you can try and play it with a single household but it's built to change and play around with multiple people and create stories with all of them and basically manage life. NGL I actually LOVE THIS! It's so unique and seems fun I'll still be playing the Sims 4 of course but this one too.
I completely agree. I tried so hard to play the Sims 4 like this. I would build up a business with one family, then switch to another and when I visited the 1st family's business, the staff would all be different and sometimes the uniforms would be different.
I hate the weight thing in the Sims. A lot of my Sims only eat salads to avoid gaining weight because I don't want to have them take up fitness. What's the point of all the recipes if you can't eat them?
Sick Satch still sounds 🧂 🌲🤭 get well soon friend! ♥️
I agree, having infinite access to cas and build/buy… kind of stinks. I get all these packs “to take my sims places” and literally no reason to do it.
An example off the top of my head, I’d really like to have go to Selvadorada to get clothes from that pack. Like, definitely give cheats for unlimited access, but I’d actually go there! I’d go to an appliance store to get a new fridge.
I think it’s wild people care so much about cars when it’s like, where are you even going with them? It’s essentially just wanting an extremely expensive decor item.
This is the most on-point explanation of how people think they know what they want, but really don't. You nailed it with how people shouldn't look at it through Sim tinted glasses. Although the cheeky feature drops by.. crap I forgot his name.. the ex-sims dev.. anyway, that doesn't help :)
Love you Satch!❤ Get well very soon.
I might be the only one who doesn't mind it not being in the game. If anything, I'd actually like it to be an optional thing to turn off. Weight management is annoying as hell. I do agree with what you said when it comes to comparisons as well. I think it's going to be natural for s lot of people to compare it to the Sims because of it's reputation, but people also need to remember that the game is in development.
It’s kinda hard to critique a game that literally none of us has played yet outside of the creators. I think another issue is people keep comparing this game to the sims franchise, which I get in a way, but clearly LBY is creating their own lane in the simulation genre.
Maybe it’s because I’ve been playing other games created by Paradox, a lot of these complaints are petty. Whatever paradox comes with is going to be like a breath of fresh air for me.
To be fair the project director of Life by You used to work on Sims 2 and 3 and used to be Executive Vice President of EA so comparing it to Sims is not just because it's another life simulator. It could very well have some influences from Sims 2 and 3 with that history.
But i still agree. We shouldn't look at it thru a Sims lense. Also it's still in development so have some patience guys, we'll see
I'm crazy to do a whole town worth of people so a town sim is much more exciting than a individual life
Even with the issues the Sims has set the bar for life simulation games. The best thing EA can do for the Sims is to fix the game and learn from Paralives and Life By You.
I think being able to skip over to any character is super cool! That way you can find where your characters friends are doing, check up on them, "spontaneously" meet up out on the town etcetera
I have a sinus problem too because of a cold, hope you feel better soon!
Im actually looking forward to this! It looks so much more mature really.
That moment, when SatchOnSims does the magical girl transformation into SatchOnLifeByYou
I hope you feel better soon!
My friend hates how the people look but idk, I mean I don't love them but I'm not looking at them through a sims lens but a new game lens and I'm liking it
This looks so fun I’m still excited
will the graphics improve?
Isn't one of the big things about Paradox games is their modability? So presumably the idea is that if there is something you think you would like to see in the game, you will just be able to create it, add it and share it yourself.
They are giving us all the tools they are using to build the game, so it becomes what ever we want it to be within the bounds of being able to build it obviously.
So I'm saying it seems a bit weird to be saying "oh they don't have x y or z option" - *we* will make x y and z and a, b and c too.
You want there to be a system where the characters can gain or lose weight? Build it and share it with everyone.
@@LucidiaRisingIt shouldn’t be the modders job to add in basic features and finish making the game for the devs. This is one of the major criticisms Sims 4 has faced over the years. The game should feel fleshed out and complete on it’s own before mods ever come into the equation. If going in it feels like the game wasn’t properly put together and fully developed then why are we paying them if we then have to wait on other players to finish doing their job for them.
@@CeliriaRose that's a really great point that I completely agree with, I'm just saying the game is releasing in early access, it's not finished, so why are people fussing about it not being finished? Seems a wasted effort to complain about that this early
@@LucidiaRising Because it’s worrying. If some obvious aspects aren’t in the game then what else might get left out as well? Plus if people don’t complain about it now how will the devs now what needs to be changed or fixed. Complaining and criticizing is how devs get feedback and learn and improve the game which is a large part of why they show stuff and are going to have the early access period to begin with.
@@CeliriaRose again I agree with you honestly
But if it really is as moddable as they promise, it will be funfunfun
3:09 lmao look at this woman, her neck cracked
Why did this video help me study so well wtf
Slay??
Honestly if LBY is more of a town simulator than a life simulator then I'm still all for it. It will give creators an opportunity to create something similar to the Sims Medieval or some console Sims games like Urbz or the Strangetown ones. I really miss those kinds of games since I am not that much creative and a quest/storyline is much appreciated.
You don't need a physique management system for there to be gameplay consequences for going to the gym or otherwise working out - Impacting life expectancy, impacting various fitness skills which can then interface with career or quest systems, and so forth.
I have concerns about the game, but they're more macro scale "I'm not sure what the general gameplay will look like for this?" due to how I play The Sims doesn't feel like it's going to work in LBY. But while concerning for me, personally, since it means I don't have a sense on if this game's going to be 'for me' that's a good thing for the genre since it means it's going to have to have a fundamentally different sense of what we do in the game since the lifespans are just far too long for the sort of stories a lot of people play out in The Sims to work - Generational gameplay only makes sense when you can reasonably play through the lifetime of several generations of characters. Even the stories that would equate to 20-40 years of IRL life I tend to play out would take around 120-240 days of non-stop gameplay to play out. My concerns are that there's currently a bunch of question marks covering that, but I'm sure by the time early access comes they'll have replaced those question marks with information. Whether to my liking or not.
tbh, i like that the gym didn't change their bodies 'cause i'm VERY ocd in my sims' appearances 💀but they could add a fitness scaling slider if needed?
What I really like about Life by you is that the developers seem to be very open and responsive to questions from the community and make these little videos about it.
I think this is going to be more Cities Skylines meets Sims. More world-building and social systems-based than individual Sim based. But considering how rich and detailed Cities Skylines mechanics are, I’m excited. I think it won’t be as immediately glossy and glitzy as The Sims. But the gameplay will be vastly more complex, dynamic, and unpredictable.
I can't help myself, but everytime I see footage of Life By You, all I can think about is GTA roleplaying. 🤷♀😅
Has anyone played Second Life? you can tell one of their developers are working on this. I used to play many years ago and this game looks a lot like it. Even the menu has the same lay out and colours. I loved it but mostly because I talked to people from all over the world.
I'm hoping people realize that the publisher of this game, Paradox also has a tendency with their new games that at launch, they're kind of bland. Crusader Kings, Stellaris, Cities Skylines, Hearts of Iron, Europa Universalis. All great games but at launch, they were a little bland. But they improved over the years with patches, free updates, and (dreaded) Paid DLC. Plus this game is still in heavy development, so of course things won't look super polished and some mechanics may be missing. But that's okay, because I think what's really going to help them is the transparency they're having with the community and willing to listen and take into account the feedback from their fans.
Also lets be real, every sims game was bland at launch too with the base game, I don't think its fair to compare the all of the Life Sims coming out against each other. Sure they're all life sims, but they're trying to do something unique with their games, and that's great! The best thing us fans can do right now is give supportive feedback.
Man early EU4 compared to now is just . . .
was gonna say! Get well soon :)
It's safe to ALWAYS be skeptical of all games coming out, regardless who is making them.
Is it just me or does the humans in the game look super strange? Like graphics and environment look pretty good but idk the humans look just like not great like could be better
The shadows are strong and dark for my taste. It's not comfortable for my migraine.
I don't think they should be joking about exercising in heels, we are all traumatized by random townie outfits. Feels a bit insensitive /s
I’m definitely going to pick it up when it fully releases because it looks interesting. I don’t think it will ever compare to sims 2 for me and I’m okay with it. I’m excited for something new.
horses confirmed in sims4 by Satch
I've said this before but I'm glad the LBY devs are going to require beefier specs for this game. The Sims 4 is held back partly by their reluctance to exclude those with low spec PCs. It would be nice to see a life sim that actually takes advantage of the technology we have now.
Feel better!
I think in the Sims they should make it if your sim doesn’t eat then they lose weight. Currently their metabolism is set to simply go up as default 🤷♀
I personally dislike it but i'm excited for the sims 4 to finally have some competition
Not feeling them graphics
@@jamescoleman3103 yeah i don't like them either. i've been spoiled by red dead redemption 2 level graphics so now if it's not at minimum sims 4 level, I just can't enjoy it as much :(
it annoys me sometimes because a game may have a really good story and i'll try it out but i just can't get into it because of the look :(( but i know i would've loved it had it looked just a little bit better
Im not surprised they cant do all of that. Maybe if a lot of people buy the gam, they can add all of that.
It is impossible not to look into Life by You and think about The Sims. The Sims dominates this industry for more than 20 years... We will compare both games all the time, but it can be good. Because we can do a pro and cons list.
Yes, exactly. I think this is going to be a very different game to The Sims. People compare it to The Sims because that's all they know. And it seems that most people who play The Sims ONLY play The Sims, so they can't conceive of a life sim that is very different. And those who do play other games play only a few select games like Stardew Valley and a few farming Sims, so they see these two as similar because their breadth of gameplay experience is minimal. That's not much variety!! People very much need to stop comparing and stop judging them side-by-side. They are going to be very different, but people also need to suspend their judgement. How can you know whether you'll like this game or not if you haven't played a game like it? I play a lot of different kinds of games and I don't know whether I will love this game or not, and I don't think anyone does. Sure, judge the graphics (I for example, like the surroundings, but not the people - no facial expression or body language makes them look creepy - I hope an improvement for that is in the works), but I can't judge the gameplay because we really haven't seen any yet - we've only really seen game MANAGEMENT, and that's not gameplay. I have a lot of hope for this game, but I'll decide whether I like the game as a whole or not later when I've seen more, and the more I see, the less reason I see for comparing it to The Sims. They are both life sims, yes, and that's where the similarity ends.
One thing's for sure, if the sims 4 can put some kind of fitness system, then Life By You can put one and make it correct as to where it would impact lifelong health issues. After all their should be some kind of functional use to the gym equipment, my guess is the creators of Life by You would put aerobic and strength values which depending what equipment you use would increase either muscle mass or calorie maintenance or a combination of both, as to whether it would be in the early release or added later, well that depends on what they can accomplish in the time they have, but Life By You sounds like they would the type to make a fitness system correctly even if they have to have it available at a later time.
i feel like they should have different modes: one where you can change everything you want, and another that's way more restricted. personally, i don't really want to be able to delete anyone and anything at will. it makes things matter less when they're so disposable
I've always found the Sims' weight management system to be overly stylized, allowing for characters to pretty much effortlessly shed all sorts of weight and get shredded in just a few Sim days, and then maintaining that physique forever.
There's so many heavy people in the world that are physically-active that stay heavy, regardless of how much they work out. There's so many skinny people in the world that fail to gain muscle definition regardless of how much they work out.
I definitely don't like how robotic the characters look...
The agame looks nice to me it feels like it's a lot tbh
Annnd as a person with chronic sinus and tonsil issues, poor Satch, get better soon!
I definitely don't mind it being different from The Sims, but I don't think it's unreasonable to want actions in the game to have relevant consequences. Not only the working out thing, but also they showed off the real time conversation editor where you can change what your human replies in a conversation they're having, but it doesn't change what the other human will say at all. So to me, that's kind of pointless. I'm withholding judgment until we actually see the game, but being able to customize things or do activities in the game is useless if it doesn't actually change anything in the gameplay. That combined with the graphics/anatomy of the humans in this game make me worried I won't be able to get into it.
I can see working out at the gym only being, like, an athletic skill that helps in other activities without a weight loss or gain system. I say this because how many people just go back into CAS in full edit mode and just change their sim back to the body type they want the sim to have? Some want their sim to have the skill but not actually lose weight so go back and change them back to the way they want their sim to look. Let's be serious, happens all the time. That being the case, is there any actual point in having the sim's appearance change?
have you heard about alterlife for steam?
Get well soon, hun!
I’m SURE they’re going to add that weight management in. Hopefully it’ll also be an option if you want weight gain and loss to happen naturally or not. Remember this is going to be the most mod-able life sim on the market! 🎉
I feed my sims once a day and they get huge in like a week it does my head in
First you say to not look on the life buy you through the sims lens and then you compare it to the sims again several times 😂 I understand tho, we have nothing else to compare so far as other simulation games are also in the process, but we have a lot of experience and gameplay done with the sims. I'm unsure about life by you, looks too alpha for me, but I'm happy to see where it goes. I'm so far more excited to see paralives although it will take much longer to wait. It just looks so peacuful, aesthetic and cozy.
It's all so chaotic. Development is so early, even before Early Access, and everyone is talking everywhere and either excited or horrified about every detail, and so many groups of players, some who want this, others who want something else, all those Sims 4 Fans who request the most stupid things for their puppet house simulation 🤮So the thing I'm worried about is that it will be too sandbox. I want gameplay. Hard, deep, juicy gameplay. Challenges set by the game, strokes of fate to deal with, if I play rich I want rich-problems, if I play poor I want poor-problems. I want miscarriages, autism, unemployment, homelessness, diseases like cancer, divorces, depression. I want everything that is bad, I want to get suprised and deal with problems, so that every success feels honestly earned and truly joyful. I don't care about whirlpools and if you can recolor the eyelashes of a Sim. Right now it looks to me like the game will be sandbox, but players will be able to create their own scenarios. It's also not clear to me where Life By You is really going. It's just clear to me that I don't need a 2nd animation player with progress bars as fake "gameplay" and a building planner, especially when it has worse graphics than the other one ... I want a game. But I'm confused they ask us for feedback and didn't even told us their vision.
I agree...
I think the base game put out by Paradox will be a little sandboxy, but they are giving us the tools to create the chaos to the degree we want it. Some people want an easy, family-friendly game which is probably what the base game will be, and others want tragedy, challenges, whimsy, drama, silliness, scandal, violence, etc., which will be created by modders and novice creative players who will make their creations available to those who are interested, and those who aren't can still play the game their way. At least that's what I'm hoping, because my personal taste lies somewhere in the middle of the extremes.
I appreciate you want those nitty-gritty things, but many people don't just because they already have to deal with that irl and don't want to in what is essentially supposed to be an escape from reality.
Stuff like cancer and miscarriage can be super triggering or upsetting to some people, and devs know that, which is generally why they avoid things like that. Life sim games so far have always been fairly lighthearted for the most part, because games are supposed to be a fun escape. I know that if I wanted to deal with homelessness and cancer and depression, all I'd have to do is stop playing games and take a walk.
I do like the details in sim games, but I definitely think there are things that are best left out. I know they're called life sims, but emulate life too much, and it stops being fun for many people.
@@avanguline But.. then play Sims 4?? It's woke and won't trigger you. You can play mermaids! Personally, I don't think we need two Sims 4. And I mean there are games out which are based on killing others, like Battlefield. People who could get triggered by violence don't play it. Should we really only have games which don't will "trigger" 0,001% of the world population? People who are getting triggered need therapy or should use alternatives. Like Sims 4.
I personally hate the body changes when they workout becauae jts my playstyle and i hate them to change unless i want them to, but i agree they definitely need to make it an option for peopke who want it
Listening to feedback is always a good thing. Game creators decide about whether they act literally on the feedback, or look at the deeper themes about why people are asking for these things. I don't think you need to worry about simmers giving feedback based on the expectation of it being like the sims. These game developers already know that's where they're coming from, and already know how they're different, and will want to stay true to the game's vision and values in order to be marketably different.
Trust that the developers know how to do research, and only act on what feels right to them. That is part of their profession.
IMO we're way too early into Life by You to critique it for having "missing" feautures- it's not even in Beta stage yet. Comparing a still developing game to 2023 Sims 4 is super unfair. When Sims4 came out it didn't even have toddlers or pools. If they release LBY with that level of glaring omissions then by all means we should critique but i'm not going to be mad if I have to adjust my characters body weight manually rather than it being done automatically as a game mechanic. If they're following the Paradox model of lots of small DLCs (using Cities Skylines as my comparison) then they will probably put out a gym/health DLC later on anyway.
I bet you could make your own badads with this game which isnt a bad thing its just fun idea
They really need to work on the body proportions, tho.
It seems more like a God Simulator.
I'll be honest. I freeze my Sims' physiques with MCCC lol.