Are F1 Drivers Really The Best In The World?

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    00:00 Is Verstappen The Best Racing Driver?
    01:01 How much does it cost to get into F1?
    05:04 The Rise of The Paydriver
    07:07 Best Driver vs. Pay Driver
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  • @landey94grocks
    @landey94grocks Pƙed rokem +165

    The success of hamilton, vettel & ocon makes me wonder those families who had sacrificed everything but their children still don’t make it to f1, it must be a devastating feeling đŸ˜©

    • @Adamos321
      @Adamos321 Pƙed rokem +5

      not necessarily.. many of them found multiple sources of income which (in many cases) they not pursue otherwise. When their kid gave up the racing dream, they could enjoy the higher income for their own joy and pleasure. Or to turn it into a passive income, or just the pick the one way of making money they enjoy the most and have a more enjoyable life than they had before. So for some it could have been a sacrifice, but for many it could have been a life-changing and satisfying journey.

    • @attilaosztopanyi9468
      @attilaosztopanyi9468 Pƙed 23 dny

      F1 is the most exclusive sport. Only 20 competitors.

  • @JuanQuinelli
    @JuanQuinelli Pƙed rokem +2183

    In my opinion, getting sponsors is a legit way to climb the motorsport ladder and would not consider it as paydrivers. I think paydrivers from rich parents are the real problem, because they don't even have to impress sponsors or reach a certain level of performance to keep them in the sport.

    • @nickklavdianos5136
      @nickklavdianos5136 Pƙed rokem +122

      They got to get that superlicense first though right? Even Mazepin at was at least good enough to get one. And no one can just buy a superlicense. They have to earn it with good performance in the junior categories. And if they keep not performing in F1 they will be replaced with someone else.

    • @cyan_oxy6734
      @cyan_oxy6734 Pƙed rokem +144

      @@nickklavdianos5136 And after getting booted out of f1, Mazepin competed in a few ralley championships and won all of them. Mazepin is a really good driver but F1 are just the best drivers in the world.

    • @pisderata
      @pisderata Pƙed rokem +1

      😂

    • @madmans1419
      @madmans1419 Pƙed rokem +16

      EVERY f1 driver has rich parents.

    • @Shabec2982
      @Shabec2982 Pƙed rokem +51

      @@madmans1419 Hell no. Did you not just watched the video? Hamilton Ocon Vettle didn’t come from money.

  • @bharatchandra6785
    @bharatchandra6785 Pƙed rokem +1768

    That's why I love Ocon's story! When he was racing in go-karts (against Verstappen and Leclerc), he was living in a caravan with his parents as they had sold their house to fund his racing career. I am still amazed how it's not a movie yet. That's the plot of a fricking anime right there!! 😂

    • @stevenkrenz5026
      @stevenkrenz5026 Pƙed rokem +107

      Ocon is shit ;D
      Thats why

    • @maxverstappen7160
      @maxverstappen7160 Pƙed rokem +58

      Probably because Ocon doesn’t deserve a seat

    • @mobyhuge4346
      @mobyhuge4346 Pƙed rokem +173

      @@maxverstappen7160 nah he deserves a seat, its just that he doesnt have a champions pace and racecraft. hes more akin to a top midfield driver like Hulkenberg and Timo Glock

    • @mvee05
      @mvee05 Pƙed rokem +9

      1 question is ocon being paid good money now? did it pay off ?? money wise

    • @maxverstappen7160
      @maxverstappen7160 Pƙed rokem +63

      @@mobyhuge4346 I’ll happily eat my words if he beats Gasly, I just don’t think he has any abilities that stand out + he’s an absolute asshole to his team mates (in my opinion). Very dislikable guy on track, off track, seems like a standup bloke.

  • @ashooaway
    @ashooaway Pƙed rokem +553

    As an adult who wanted this as a kid.
    I should also say what also limits the driver crop is the amount of parents who are willing to even go ahead with the activities in the first place.
    Travelling Thursdays until every Sunday whilst their kids miss school for some stupid dream isn't something most enjoy

    • @gemparaiso03
      @gemparaiso03 Pƙed rokem +10

      I agree with you, I wish I had got the chance at F1 but I played hockey growing up and chances are small at playing in the NHL and I know F1 is a lot smaller, This took 5 nights every week from me and now at the age of 18 that was all for a very childish dream that now I just play for fun for 2 nights of my week.

    • @larrymats
      @larrymats Pƙed rokem +22

      Not to mention how dangerous it is.

    • @BigPurp9
      @BigPurp9 Pƙed rokem +33

      It’s a sport for rich kids. The next Michael Schumacher could be growing up in a council estate somewhere but would never have the resources or opportunity to ever even get into the sport. That’s one thing I appreciate about football - it has next to no barriers to entry

    • @BenSilver10
      @BenSilver10 Pƙed rokem +3

      Exactly! Also, at 8 years old, usually, one isn't focused and determined enough.
      When I started playing soccer/football, I didn't like to do conditional training every day and just wanted to play ball.
      The commitment required to be a pro is insane.

    • @meowiguess903
      @meowiguess903 Pƙed rokem

      Yeah, I was thinking about this too. I'm afraid that if I began competitively in karting at an early age, I'm not going to know the people I know today who mostly I know from school. If there are one of the few things I enjoyed is schooling, I like studying and having friends.

  • @thimoumii
    @thimoumii Pƙed rokem +1328

    this only shows how talented Latifi is

  • @justgary2471
    @justgary2471 Pƙed rokem +528

    This is why Seb and Lewis are just in a league of their own. Say what you will about Hamilton, but that man his dad dedicated their lives to achieving their a dream. You can't help but feel good for them!

    • @clyde34
      @clyde34 Pƙed rokem +63

      And as Hamilton pointed out recently - the door is now shut for people like that. Karting is ridiculously expensive now, as shown in the video. While previously someone in the top 5% of a wealthier nation could finance their kid's karting career without any sponsors and with modest sacrifice, now you'd need to be one of the top 0.5%, and even then it's sketchy.

    • @niels9203
      @niels9203 Pƙed rokem +20

      Yes, though I would argue that if Ocon would get a spot with a top team and win a WDC, he would join that league. Also, this may sound crazy but Verstappen isn't far behind in this regard. I'm not a big fan of him, maybe I would if he joined Ferrari (he and our strategy team killed us this season), but his history is not as straightforward as many assume.
      As a Dutchman, it's almost impossible to escape the story of Max and how he got to F1. Yes, his dad is a former F1 driver, but given that Jos wasn't always, let's say wise with how he spent his money, all of the family's money still had to go to Max's dream. (And there is that story of Max effing up one race and his dad made him walk home for like 15 km in the middle of Italy before coming back and picking him up again. Insane. I guess that partly explains the obsessive winning mentality.) I think what made it easier for Max is his last name. He had more financial means than Seb and Lewis (e.g. his parents didn't have to sell their house), though not much more, but he was the son of a former F1 driver. That helps with sponsors. The same goes for Mick Schumacher I suppose, though because of Michael's success in F1, the Schumacher family is way richer than the Verstappen family was.

    • @huguesjouffrai9618
      @huguesjouffrai9618 Pƙed rokem +5

      You don't understand the video.
      The video is saying that overall there's just a few thousand kids who F1 champions had to beat (vs tens of millions for footballers).
      And that's still true for the few exceptions like Ocon and Hamilton who were not super rich: they were still only competing with a very small pool of people.
      Probably the only thing that could change that is if teams start spotting talent from sim racing.

    • @davefred
      @davefred Pƙed rokem +5

      Oh please, their families weren't anywhere near as poor as they like to claim.

    • @erwinlommer197
      @erwinlommer197 Pƙed rokem +8

      Hamilton was never poor. He even raced rc cars as a kid. Those things are EXPENSIVE. His father wasn't a millionaire but they were well off.

  • @Ilkeryiit
    @Ilkeryiit Pƙed rokem +273

    I started in competitive karting back in 2005 as a 11 year old until 2017. I even raced against Verstappen, Norris, Guan Yu Zhou between 2012-2014. Then got Finally picked up by Porsche Carrera Junior Program despite the scolarship of 80k that I had, I had to stop as I needed 250.000€ for 2 seasons. It’s not only about Talent !!!

    • @j2jwhatsapp
      @j2jwhatsapp Pƙed rokem +2

      Did you beat any of them ?

    • @Ilkeryiit
      @Ilkeryiit Pƙed rokem +72

      Yes I’ve beaten, Latifi, Mazepin, Mick and even some other GT drivers

    • @j2jwhatsapp
      @j2jwhatsapp Pƙed rokem +17

      That's genuinely impressive

    • @elmasmelih
      @elmasmelih Pƙed rokem +4

      sallamiyorsan helal knk

    • @patelaakash267
      @patelaakash267 Pƙed rokem +1

      Sorry brother!

  • @haissake
    @haissake Pƙed rokem +120

    You completely forgot Alonso! His parents were working class and had to put a lot of work and money to support his carreer. His father was a karting fan and even made a DIY "kart" for Alonso's older sister, who rejected it. Alonso liked that homemade kart, the rest is history.

    • @1lyxbollyvykn714
      @1lyxbollyvykn714 Pƙed rokem +4

      alonso at some point was sponsored by telefonica and santander

    • @carlosgaleotegandara7812
      @carlosgaleotegandara7812 Pƙed rokem +11

      ​@@1lyxbollyvykn714 lmao yes,when he already was in Renault and Ferrari . Gtfo

    • @coin5207
      @coin5207 Pƙed rokem +2

      Well he forgot a lot of people, Bottas, Russell and Tsunoda also didn't have that much money

    • @spinyslasher6586
      @spinyslasher6586 Pƙed 11 měsĂ­ci +3

      That's the problem though. If you don't have money, your parents have to pretty much restructure their whole lives and careers just to support your motorsport dreams. And that's a massive risk most people aren't willing to take. Compare that to football, where most kids start off by simply playing with their school mates while going to school.

    • @rafafernandezvargas554
      @rafafernandezvargas554 Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci

      ​​@@coin5207 well I think tsunoda have the supported of Honda since early age... In fact I think he is right now in F1 because the union Red bull- Honda. And I like Tsunoda but is it...

  • @NavF1
    @NavF1 Pƙed rokem +842

    Short answer is no. The grid is never composed of the 20 best drivers, but at least 75% of them usually are in F1. There's no way you could suggest that Sebastien Loeb for example wasn't one of the 10 best drivers in the world at some point. F1 also usually discounts older drivers who might have improved with experience - for instance, I'd say Kobayashi in the late 2010s was better than he was in the early 2010s, etc.

    • @Koziolrh
      @Koziolrh Pƙed rokem +31

      Loeb is a good example because he probably was (is?) top 10 in the world at a certain time and he very nearly raced in F1. Was this close.

    • @areebsiddiqui758
      @areebsiddiqui758 Pƙed rokem +66

      Being a great driver in another racing category doesn't necessarily mean your talent will translate over to F1. The skillsets are varied. There have been plenty of drivers who were successful in other racing categories but average or even poor in F1.

    • @Koziolrh
      @Koziolrh Pƙed rokem +15

      @@areebsiddiqui758 also a very good point hence Loeb being a great example as he seemingly had pace to get a Toro Rosso seat. If I remember correctly it was contracts/scheduling that prevented it in the end

    • @formularguments7335
      @formularguments7335 Pƙed rokem +12

      Sebastian Loeb is a rally driver tho. why bring him into this. f1 in general has the best single seater/open wheel racing drivers in the world. rally drivers are not included in the equation

    • @formularguments7335
      @formularguments7335 Pƙed rokem +3

      rally is a completely different form of racing

  • @TheOfficialZhya
    @TheOfficialZhya Pƙed rokem +243

    You guys forgot to include Kimi Raikkonen, guys. Man had humble beginnings, a controversial entry, and then Suzuka 2005 happened.

    • @SacristanRacing
      @SacristanRacing Pƙed rokem +24

      I think they only focused on drivers currently on the grid 😼

    • @barathrajkumar7244
      @barathrajkumar7244 Pƙed rokem +19

      I think his first season solidified his presence in formula1
      He was in hot demand before suzuka 2005. He was extremely close to winning the 2003 title

    • @sidhantomukerji7659
      @sidhantomukerji7659 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@SacristanRacing msc sr is on the grid 😼

    • @gherbo1609
      @gherbo1609 Pƙed rokem +1

      and alonso too, his father was an olympic shooter but he never would of made it to f1 without being picked up by Flavio Briatore

    • @jonomurphy1117
      @jonomurphy1117 Pƙed rokem +9

      @@gherbo1609 Michael who was broke as fuck like broke broke until Mercedes sponsored his entry to Jordan in 1991,

  • @TheFiki14
    @TheFiki14 Pƙed rokem +61

    When you hear of stories like Hamiltons, Ocons, Vettels, etc
 it just goes to show how their parents must’ve really seen something special to put everything behind their kids

  • @innoc3ntbystndr
    @innoc3ntbystndr Pƙed rokem +236

    You should do a story about Ocon. He’s literally Driving to Survive. Kudos to his parents, really inspiring story!

    • @cameronmckelvie81
      @cameronmckelvie81 Pƙed rokem

      How so? I saw him in the most recent series

    • @anameyoucantremember
      @anameyoucantremember Pƙed rokem +26

      @@cameronmckelvie81 He's trying to sell the narrative that Ocon's family didn't have anything to eat before Ocon made it into F1, which is pure bullshit

    • @elijahwilkey8036
      @elijahwilkey8036 Pƙed rokem +2

      @@anameyoucantremember Loool absolutely.

    • @cameronmckelvie81
      @cameronmckelvie81 Pƙed rokem

      @@anameyoucantremember thanks!

    • @felipereyna1955
      @felipereyna1955 Pƙed rokem

      that story doesn't inspire intelligent people, just fouls. Not mentioning is fake.

  • @devanshtiwari2067
    @devanshtiwari2067 Pƙed rokem +133

    I have seen this channel grow from start to here and proudly watched every video within a day of release

  • @JJTheNight
    @JJTheNight Pƙed rokem +74

    Don't forget there are many sports that requires large investments. Tennis in example is also very expensive if you want to reach the top, as you have to do a lot of international tourneys to get to the top.

    • @muhammadfarhan581
      @muhammadfarhan581 Pƙed rokem +28

      But we still see few middle class ppl who play tennis in atp wta gs and world tour 1000 level thanks to winning some 250 tourney and sponsorship. In formula racing its impossible, even formula 4 is like "club for millionaire kid". Lets face it, f1 driver can never claim to be the best, they simply the best among millionaire kids

    • @consti1873
      @consti1873 Pƙed rokem +27

      @@muhammadfarhan581 The problem isn't Formula 1, the problem starts at karting. Neither the Vettels nor the Hamiltons were millionaires to put their kid in formula 1, they worked their ass off to let them go racing and make that dream possible. But if you think about it, how many families took the same path and got stopped because their kid simply wasn't as skilled as others. If he had known where it would lead to, Hamilton's father would've probably worked even more jobs to give Lewis even more opportunities. But how many fathers and mothers sacrifice everything and invest every last penny they got to make that dream work for their kid only to realize later that he/she doesn't have the talent to compete at the top. So the concern should be how to facilitate access to the sport with a lower budget cause that would solve the problem "Are they really the best?" by itself.
      Talking about F1, it's safe to say that the likes of Hamilton, Verstappen, Leclerc and so on are among the best racing drivers you can find on the planet. If you are that good then in let's say 8/10 cases you will get recognized by an academy or some sort of youth programm.

    • @utkarshtyagi10
      @utkarshtyagi10 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@consti1873 to show how good you are you need to access the right facilities. Which unfortunately is not present in many countries. Only places where F1 is more popular and these youth programs exist is mostly Europe.

    • @rickyricardo2006
      @rickyricardo2006 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@muhammadfarhan581 What are you talking about? Sergio perez for instance, had a very humble upbringing. He literally had to drive his gokart in a way that his tires lasted longer then the norm.
      He was talented from the beginning and got sponsored as a result.

    • @Wheeliethai
      @Wheeliethai Pƙed rokem +3

      Yes, sports like tennis and golf are expensive. But more importantly beyond the cost comparison is exposure. Tennis and Golf are sports where most schools will have a team at a relatively young age. I was introduced to tennis when I was in grade school during gym class and my middle and high school had tennis and golf teams. This goes for all forms of motor sports in any country but usually unless either the parent loves motor sports you aren’t going to get the needed exposure as you will like in other sports to find out whether or not you have the talent for it. You will never find out truly who the fastest driver in the world is.

  • @TripleAlfafa
    @TripleAlfafa Pƙed rokem +21

    If one looks at F1 during it's earliest years, it was predominantly a sport of rich gentlemen with a few early professionals who then also raced in a lot of other categories just to make ends meet.

  • @tarcisiocolaresnogueirajun6916

    Excellent video once more. I'd suggest as a theme an analysis of the access to elite sports between athletes from wealthy countries vs athletes from poorer continents or countries.

  • @The_G.O.A.T__
    @The_G.O.A.T__ Pƙed rokem +30

    Another quality content Athletic Interest ❀

  • @rhyswilliams4893
    @rhyswilliams4893 Pƙed rokem +22

    Another reason to love Seb. He did it the hard way and knows he is in a position to push for change now.

    • @TheBatmobeale
      @TheBatmobeale Pƙed rokem

      Here's a reason
      Multi 21 Seb....

    • @rb0042
      @rb0042 Pƙed rokem

      @@TheBatmobeale I was faster, I passed him, I won

    • @TheBatmobeale
      @TheBatmobeale Pƙed rokem

      @@rb0042 Translation: "I'm a petulant child"

  • @Definitely_Melnyx
    @Definitely_Melnyx Pƙed rokem +17

    I wish we could see talented driver in a bad car vs pay driver in a good car.

    • @ekosusetyo217
      @ekosusetyo217 Pƙed rokem +8

      And then the pay driver will be the winner, coz car is esensial in this sport. And the way money talk in this competititon make the range quality of "bad" and "talented driver" is not that far (almost all would came with same path and experience).

    • @sanjay_swain
      @sanjay_swain Pƙed rokem +7

      @@ekosusetyo217 That's a really underestimating how freaking hard driving a F1 car is. F1 drivers are fucking good athletes. Driving a F1 car is not like just pressing a key on keyboard as hard as possible and expecting everything to go smoothly. Pretty sure 99.9% of drivers will be unconscious even before they finish half the GP race due to exhaustion.
      If what you are saying was the case then why the hell companies are even spending millions of dollar on drivers academy and then hundreds of millions on according to you "talented" drivers when their are hundreds of billionares kids itching to get into the sport? After all there are only 20 seats so nothing should be wrong with that right?. A good car with "bad" drivers will not win championship. It will win new DNFs records.

    • @formularguments7335
      @formularguments7335 Pƙed rokem +1

      ​@@ekosusetyo217 depends on the pay driver and how much worse or better the cars are. the pay driver would probably win because it's not like they are actually terrible drivers

    • @ekosusetyo217
      @ekosusetyo217 Pƙed rokem

      @@sanjay_swain i never said that F1 driver not a talented or bad driver. I just emphasize that the range of skill that paydriver and the super talented driver in F1 arena is not that far, so car is super esensial at that gap.

    • @Slimmeyy
      @Slimmeyy Pƙed rokem

      @@ekosusetyo217 As with everything, the skill and talent required to save those final few hundredths off, to get that one more overtake, to break those few feet later, grows exponentially.

  • @S-SATYAPRATAPSINGH
    @S-SATYAPRATAPSINGH Pƙed rokem +4

    I feel proud to watch every video from day one and I felt this channel is best about the content

  • @GeHeum
    @GeHeum Pƙed rokem +13

    I feel that one this is just a given for F1.
    Even karting has such high maintenance costs to just run that it will always be impossible to compete in the sport for a reasonably low price.

  • @thatonemouse3016
    @thatonemouse3016 Pƙed rokem +56

    Reminded me of Raikkonen's humble beginnings, shows how things are different today.

    • @nickklavdianos5136
      @nickklavdianos5136 Pƙed rokem +23

      How are things different today? Pay drivers and rich kids always existed in F1. Things are actually somewhat better now.

  • @bencook9989
    @bencook9989 Pƙed rokem +8

    Love the channel, I’m excited for the newsletter

  • @sireric41
    @sireric41 Pƙed rokem +12

    Personally, I'd disagree that Wimbledon is as representative as you'd suggest

    • @sadiporter2966
      @sadiporter2966 Pƙed rokem +1

      Indeed. Some players are fairly bad on grass. Also, it depends if you are fully fit or not.

    • @utkarshtyagi10
      @utkarshtyagi10 Pƙed rokem

      It’s not personal, everyone who knows about tennis knows that Grand Slams count matters the most not the lone grand slam title ie- Wimbledon.😂😂 You mean to say if Berretini or Alcaraz win it then they would be considered best player in tennis? Even if Rafa or novak won 3 G.S other than Wimbledon that year. What a joke. Lol

  • @UZR28
    @UZR28 Pƙed rokem +7

    A great video for a F1 fans
    And amazing video, way to go mate 👍

  • @larrymats
    @larrymats Pƙed rokem +14

    - sacrifice education
    - very dangerous
    - little chance of success
    It doesn't make any sense at all if you think of how much they have spent. Even with pay drivers they still need immense dedication. Pure Passion!! huge respect to their parents.

  • @nestordanielsequeramunoz2337

    Muy bueno este video! Recién descubro este canal, estå genial todo su contenido. Sería muy interesante uno de motoGP. Me imagino que pasa algo parecido a la fórmula 1, aunque lo que mås me intriga es la abrumadora cantidad de pilotos españoles que hay. También hay muchos italianos pero mås españoles.

  • @LordWay
    @LordWay Pƙed rokem +13

    it's the grind to get here which makes lewis's career all the more special not having money or racing name to open the door for him at mclaren.

    • @lordsabre66
      @lordsabre66 Pƙed rokem +6

      Did it the long and hard way and became the greatest to ever do it. There's no better story to write tbh.

    • @malikazeez3743
      @malikazeez3743 Pƙed rokem

      @@lordsabre66 greatest 😂😂😂

    • @sobversion3
      @sobversion3 Pƙed rokem +2

      @@malikazeez3743 you laugh but Lewis is genuinely fantastic and easily top 5 all time.

  • @Colby_0-3_IRL_and_title_fights

    They're not the most talented but they are the best.
    The amount of investment it takes to build this level of skill far outweighs the super talent in Africa who has never driven a go kart

    • @jamesc.2907
      @jamesc.2907 Pƙed rokem +8

      I don't understand your reasoning

    • @blabloubloubla1313
      @blabloubloubla1313 Pƙed rokem +6

      @@jamesc.2907 There isnt any

    • @sebastiaangase8536
      @sebastiaangase8536 Pƙed rokem

      I do understand ur reasoning.

    • @jamesc.2907
      @jamesc.2907 Pƙed rokem

      @@sebastiaangase8536 What does he mean then ?

    • @mathewjahshan6175
      @mathewjahshan6175 Pƙed rokem +3

      @@jamesc.2907 He's saying that the most naturally talented racing driver in the world is probably someone who has never raced a car but the drivers of F1 are better than the most naturally talented person because of the time that they have invested in perfecting their skills.

  • @HappyGrower
    @HappyGrower Pƙed rokem

    I love your content. I hope you can cover e-sports one day. Cheers!

  • @lennixgriffiths
    @lennixgriffiths Pƙed rokem +1

    I remember Pedro Diniz back in the 90s. Bought a team (was it arrows?) and drive for the team. Now that's a hobbyđŸ‘đŸ»

  • @JosephGamer20
    @JosephGamer20 Pƙed rokem +24

    This is the unfortunate reality of this sport I love racing I love Formula 1 it gets me so excited watching something extraordinary happening on track like in the 2021 season between Lewis & Max but this sport is so expensive that even if you want to do it for fun at a young level is so out of reach

    • @gold9994
      @gold9994 Pƙed rokem +5

      There might be someone better than Max Verstappen. But the guy is probably too poor to drive a car.

    • @knowledgeinc2039
      @knowledgeinc2039 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@gold9994 yes

    • @tamezzodiac2862
      @tamezzodiac2862 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@gold9994 I mean I've said that forever. The next senna for example is out there but he probably won't ever get a chance. Just like Micheal Schumacher was kinda almost never even in F1, but then got lucky, and look how well he did, but even though he was that good he almost never had a shot to make it.

  • @gavalant366
    @gavalant366 Pƙed rokem +15

    It's amazing Hamilton, Ocon and Vettel managed to go the f2p grind route in a p2w environment and now all 3 have won an F1 race.

    • @toomuchdebt5669
      @toomuchdebt5669 Pƙed rokem +1

      Also Kimi.

    • @mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168
      @mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168 Pƙed rokem +3

      Alonso and Schumacher also weren't rich if I'm correct

    • @gigaturok
      @gigaturok Pƙed rokem +4

      @@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168 Michael & Ralf's parents were decently wealthy, not millionares, but still wealthy. And the fact that they co-owned the legendary Erftlandring karting track also helped.

    • @Asp1re8
      @Asp1re8 Pƙed rokem +4

      Can you already stop with this Ocon BS? Even monkey could win that race in Hungary, when all top drivers crashed in first corner and 2 time world champion is blocking 7 time world champion behind you. Ocon is and always will be noob, was just lucky one time.
      How can you even put him in same sentence with Vettel and Hamilton?

    • @mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168
      @mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168 Pƙed rokem +1

      @@Asp1re8 100%, Gasly's win had some credibility to it. Ocon is famous for blocking his own teammates and still being overall slower. Maybe Gasly can make him look mediocre enough to get someone deserving in that seat

  • @k.i187
    @k.i187 Pƙed rokem

    How are you making the graphics so good? Im really curious. What software you use :D any recommendations on Skillshare?

  • @Power2K12
    @Power2K12 Pƙed rokem +6

    I see an Athletic Interest notification, I click

  • @vintyprod
    @vintyprod Pƙed rokem

    Wow that was a really good video

  • @shubhojitghosh69
    @shubhojitghosh69 Pƙed rokem +1

    Nice video Athletic Interest.

  • @Shabec2982
    @Shabec2982 Pƙed rokem +20

    Hamilton Vettle Ocon. These guys had to be great and earned their place. It baffles me when I hear people talk crap about them.

  • @michahurter1768
    @michahurter1768 Pƙed rokem +8

    to be fair, when kids have had huge amounts of money at their disposal, it allows for better coaching and more practise etc, which inevitably leads them to becoming better drivers, they may not be the most talented, but they are definitely better than 'more talented' but untrained drivers, this is true for any sport.

  • @laurolucas6274
    @laurolucas6274 Pƙed rokem +2

    Hey, guys long time I don't show up here, as a Brazilian when we talk about F1 we just say one thing, Ayrton Senna big salute from Brazil

  • @cptbaloo
    @cptbaloo Pƙed rokem +3

    I really enjoy watching F1 but that's a fact that can't be argued with. It's an almost impossible path for most people (regardless of talent), but it's an expensive sport. So there will always be higher barriers to entry than in athletics or football

  • @estafianjose6138
    @estafianjose6138 Pƙed rokem +3

    For me Alonso is the best driver on the grid based on pure talent. 1 win away from the triple crown, still class at 41 and is a 2 time WC. Cannot imagine what he would do in a more competitive car.

    • @KillaSin515
      @KillaSin515 Pƙed rokem

      I say Juan Pablo Montoya is a more talented and better driver than Alonso.

    • @bullymaguire14
      @bullymaguire14 Pƙed 7 měsĂ­ci

      arguable but i will go with alonso@@KillaSin515

  • @NihinduAngana
    @NihinduAngana Pƙed rokem +2

    wow very detailed video as usual my friend.. i guess this is the bitter truth about motorsport

  • @mayurarun
    @mayurarun Pƙed rokem +27

    People instantly hate rich and privileged kids, but fail to understand that their parents have the money to afford it for them.. there's nothing wrong in it. But the problem starts when competition gets killed behind all this. But there'll still be compitition. I am not rich, ut I get it why people could hate them.

    • @KillaSin515
      @KillaSin515 Pƙed rokem +1

      Claiming to be the best drivers in the world is where problems is.

  • @harrysadler4622
    @harrysadler4622 Pƙed rokem +2

    Great video. It's crazy to think that the most naturally gifted driver on earth has likely never driven a kart, let alone an entry level formula car.

    • @twillis449
      @twillis449 Pƙed rokem

      You are quite correct. A certain Jim Clark never drove a kart and entered formula 1 as a lotus driver - you just have to be naturally gifted. Most people would consider him the most naturally gifted racing driver of all time. However, it's highly unlikely he could follow that particular route today.

    • @pc_screen5478
      @pc_screen5478 Pƙed rokem

      That's true for most sports I feel, except maybe football since it's so popular. I actually hold the belief that most people would probably be considered geniuses in a given area (not necessarily sports) but most fail to find it during their lifetimes

  • @ltdswimmer
    @ltdswimmer Pƙed rokem +2

    You went straight for the jugular 😝 - 100% Accurate!
    As an F1 fan, you accept the nonsense when you follow the sport.

  • @ATEC101
    @ATEC101 Pƙed rokem +1

    To paraphrase the actor playing Enzo in the movie Grand Prix way back then, 'There are only half a dozen drivers capable of winning a Grand Prix and right now I don't think you are one of them.' Also, Carroll Smith, in his book Drive to Win: Sell your mother, wife and kids. Can't find my copy of his book right now, but that is accurate enough.

  • @juliank.19
    @juliank.19 Pƙed rokem

    sehr geiles Thema!!

  • @gnanakumar8406
    @gnanakumar8406 Pƙed rokem +1

    Again, one of the best content creators in CZcams. 👌Atheletic Interest. But we need more frequent videos guys.

  • @niccanavan1028
    @niccanavan1028 Pƙed rokem +16

    A video on the world of showjumping would be very interesting, the top level is somewhat similar to F1 with money and privilege playing a huge role in an individual’s success

    • @awijaya2116
      @awijaya2116 Pƙed rokem +6

      One of the drivers showcased here (Norris) has a sister who's a show-jumper (or equestrian, at least), so it really is more similar than most realize

    • @niccanavan1028
      @niccanavan1028 Pƙed rokem +2

      The Schumacher family also have big connections to the equestrian world too

  • @oussamahanin5886
    @oussamahanin5886 Pƙed rokem

    hello there, you're videos are an inspiration source for me, I just have one notice on this video, is that on 1:51 the Moroccan map isn't complete so please take attention on the next videos

  • @Dalesi
    @Dalesi Pƙed rokem +1

    Great video as always. However it would have been worth mentioning the bad taste the piastri saga left the teams with driver academy’s pushing the whole strcture further towards a rich kids club

  • @alsa4real
    @alsa4real Pƙed rokem +2

    But what's interesting is that SOME of the F1 drivers that switch to other motorsports are killing it

  • @sillychimera943
    @sillychimera943 Pƙed rokem +4

    0:22 Max casually taking away Hamilton's rear left tire. 😅

  • @alejandrogil2208
    @alejandrogil2208 Pƙed rokem

    I have to say... Well done. Really well done on your research. It's not always you see non-specialised channels or newspapers talk sense about our sport, but this was genuinely a great watch and a very accurate analysis. Keep it up guys👍

  • @vatsaldvora
    @vatsaldvora Pƙed rokem +6

    Formula One is termed the “piranha club” because of the money involved

  • @Yoergoo
    @Yoergoo Pƙed rokem +1

    I think in the future with the low cost of simracing in comperison we will see a lot more talented kids get noticed

  • @TheEmolano
    @TheEmolano Pƙed rokem +6

    It's hard to argue that Max, Lewis or Charles aren't one of the best drivers in the world. But it's sad to imagine how many talented people never got to discovery their talents because of how inacessible karting is. At least simulation racing games will start to reveal more and more talents in the years to come, and some people will be lucky to get noticed in their teenager years.

  • @felix1974
    @felix1974 Pƙed rokem

    Effort , dedication, skill (and in many sports PEDS)

  • @mo-v03
    @mo-v03 Pƙed rokem +1

    I think the term "rise of the Pay drivers" is wrong because nowadays there are fewer pay-drivers than ever before. And those that we still have are very good, unlike those 20 or more years ago, which often were 3-5 seconds slower

  • @cyan_oxy6734
    @cyan_oxy6734 Pƙed rokem +1

    This is somewhat of a misrepresentation as pay drivers in the original sense are becoming less common in F1.
    While it is true that junior formulas are prohibitively expensive. We don't have as much billionaires coming to drive for a weekend for the fun of it.
    The average skill of the whole grid is now probably even higher than it was in the past.

  • @cartelligunzafc1351
    @cartelligunzafc1351 Pƙed rokem

    love this channel Athletic Interest 👏🏿. Can we as viewers give opinions of videos you can make?
    I do enjoy your collaboration videos too powered by athletic interest

    • @AthleticInterest
      @AthleticInterest  Pƙed rokem +1

      Thanks very much! All opinions welcome in the comments 😊

  • @tandraarisandi6680
    @tandraarisandi6680 Pƙed rokem

    This is remind me of my junior high school years. At that time everyone is obsessed with moto GP. And a lot of people try to race. But from everyone that i know managed to actually race ia only the rich kid. Because when you started to race you basically had to pay for everything. My cousin try to race and spent a lot of money for it. But his family not that rich, basically his father invest in him and when he race he actually lose and the whole race is stopped because there no money to actually be spent for him any more. But in his racing days, he becomes so popular he can bring different girls every week and managed to gain a lot friends. But now he just some dude

  • @xxyanlixx
    @xxyanlixx Pƙed rokem

    If only, there was a league and/or competition, where anybody can bring any car onto the track, and race. If run properly that league may attract enough audience to the stands plus revenue from streaming, that it can open up the barrier of entry to drivers around the world.

  • @SwedishStud1
    @SwedishStud1 Pƙed rokem +1

    I agree to an extent. Money gets you into the sport, however if you can't hang with the best of the best then you see a Latifi-type falloff. He's a pay driver, but still not good enough to stay in the highest echelon of the sport, as Williams let him go for next year.. Mick may also be gone next season, another pay driver. I'm sure if Mazepin was still driving in F1, this would have been his last season too. Teams need money, but if the talent just isn't there, then its not in their best interest to keep the driver around for maybe more than a season or two

  • @guidoguido2245
    @guidoguido2245 Pƙed rokem +1

    7:43 that’s a chilling thought


  • @mako4874
    @mako4874 Pƙed rokem +3

    It would be great if one day sim racing becomes so realistic that it becomes the pathway to giving young drivers a shot at the next level

    • @Slimmeyy
      @Slimmeyy Pƙed rokem +3

      That's already happening.
      - James Baldwin was given a drive in the British GT Championship after winning season 2 of World's Fastest Gamer.
      - Cem Bolukbasi is in his first season of F2, competing in multiple different racing series after two seasons of F1 Esports.
      There's likely more cases that I don't know of yet.

    • @123marijn321
      @123marijn321 Pƙed rokem +4

      The Gran Turismo academy has already got multiple talented sim racers a drive in real cars

    • @tamezzodiac2862
      @tamezzodiac2862 Pƙed rokem +2

      @@Slimmeyy but James already had a racing career I'm pre sure before that. These are drivers that already race. It's not like you can sit in your room and then get a real life car from being good at a sim. Almost always they were already racing.

    • @bkak2245
      @bkak2245 Pƙed rokem

      @@tamezzodiac2862 not to mention u still have to pay insane amounts once u join a team

    • @tamezzodiac2862
      @tamezzodiac2862 Pƙed rokem

      @@bkak2245 yes

  • @CarimboHanky
    @CarimboHanky Pƙed rokem

    0:22 greatest f1 soundbite ever 😂

  • @jasperli
    @jasperli Pƙed rokem +1

    Your Motorsport ladder is missing Formula Regional which is between national F4 and FIA F3. Secondly, the amount of Pay Drivers that fit the description of “Pay Driver” has decreased over the years thanks to the decrease in teams on the grid. In the past almost all backmarkers would have at least 1 pay driver in order to keep the lights on. As the costs of running an F1 team rose many backmarker teams folded or were purchased corporations and didn’t require the services of a pay driver. Fans have a misconception of the amount of pay drivers on the grid thanks in part by the percentage of the grid being occupied by pay drivers is relatively the same but the availability of seats being more scarce. On the other hand many people don’t remember any pay drivers of the past because they’re meant to be forgettable, which also reinforces the notion that there’re more pay drivers than in the past.

  • @jgagnier
    @jgagnier Pƙed rokem

    Interesting piece!
    The defining feature of F1 drivers is that they matter less than their equipment. They matter, of course, but Latifi at Red Bull would have a better shot at winning than Verstappen in a Williams.
    A quality driver + $0 is worth less to most teams than a competent driver + $20mil. If you're fighting for the title, that's another can of worms, but the point is that the margin between a quality non-pay driver (a Bottas or an Ocon) and a competent pay driver (a Stroll or a Schumacher) is worth far less than the money the latter bring.
    It does not follow the Drive to Survive, personality-based narrative that has made F1 gain in popularity, but F1 is a competition of cars being driven by people, not of people driving cars.

  • @monikacamile7283
    @monikacamile7283 Pƙed rokem +1

    Good video but like most English media completely ignored PĂ©rez career

  • @Wizzkidwas
    @Wizzkidwas Pƙed rokem

    This is the first video on this channel where I knew EVERYTHING that was said here, such is F1

  • @cjezinne
    @cjezinne Pƙed rokem +38

    This why I love Hamilton’s story so much

    • @j4genius961
      @j4genius961 Pƙed rokem +12

      And he dominated all these rich kids

    • @dylanburston7453
      @dylanburston7453 Pƙed rokem +10

      @@j4genius961 He wasnt on the poverty line mate. His parents were middle class with a well paying job, and all he was ron dennis personal plaything who fast tracked him into a winning car from the age of 13.

    • @nickfury8973
      @nickfury8973 Pƙed rokem +11

      He was signed by Mclaren at a very young age to be an academy driver. His racing career was kickstarted by Mclaren

    • @dylanburston7453
      @dylanburston7453 Pƙed rokem +3

      @@nickfury8973 Yeah, dont know where this narrative of this poverty stricken kid who gets to f1 by pure determination and talent comes from. Its not like schumi who got into f1 from a similar background but had to have freak circumstances to get in with a mid team, Lewis future was secure for all but the early part of his career

    • @quierover4locas
      @quierover4locas Pƙed rokem +7

      @@dylanburston7453 still impressive for a middle class family though.

  • @ililililili9726
    @ililililili9726 Pƙed rokem

    Thank you for exposing this.

  • @M1tZk1
    @M1tZk1 Pƙed rokem +7

    0:30 Funny how Max is competing against Verstappen.

    • @Zachary_McLaren
      @Zachary_McLaren Pƙed rokem +4

      Say what you want but Verstappen will never be on Max's level. Yeah he had a good season but max has consistency.

  • @eld7476
    @eld7476 Pƙed dnem

    Motorsports, especially f1, is a business/money competition.
    Im not trying to put it in a bad light. Its a different competition on its own.
    From logistics, investments, allocation of resources, spendings on innovation, not to mention spending millions of dollars every race/year.
    Props to the drivers, yes, but you can’t ignore how significant money and budget is to motorsports.

  • @fid29801
    @fid29801 Pƙed rokem +1

    I get the point of this video and is kind of sad that a sport so popular as F1 is not so fair for people without lots of money, but a we have to respect the drivers no matter what. They are training every day and the do super human efforts every time they go into the cars. Just keep that in mind.

  • @frankphillips5533
    @frankphillips5533 Pƙed rokem +1

    AT LAST ! The TRUTH ! Thank You !

  • @andresil8330
    @andresil8330 Pƙed rokem +2

    The thing is: Pay drivers don’t last unless they are the real deal. So the drivers that are 3 or more years there are really good. Also worth mentioning that if they paying kid isn’t really driven and hard working, they’ll never get a seat.

  • @idkok5806
    @idkok5806 Pƙed rokem

    Can you make a video on cricket something like economics of IPL it's bigger than EPL NBA AND MLB

  • @guliosh
    @guliosh Pƙed rokem +1

    Allthough the ability to acquire sponsors as a prerequisite skill seems a little bit odd, this skill is present in many other sports just the same. F1 is different in the sense that as a sporting category it allows for very few athletes to compete, but if you view it as just another field in the greater sport that is motorsports, it becomes less odd when you look at how top teams in football also consider the marketability of a player as a key reason to sign them or not. Marketability should perhaps be considered as one of the integral skills an athlete should have nowadays, and at least skill or talent still remains as the main driver of marketability.

  • @g3tt1ngth3mv4cc
    @g3tt1ngth3mv4cc Pƙed rokem

    The national football team winner of the World Cup shown on the video is France, nevertheless we all know who won. Great video đŸ€™

  • @stevesv7941
    @stevesv7941 Pƙed rokem

    To be fair the best drivers were Senna, Bruce McLaren, Alonso, Vettel, Schumi, Lauda, Lewis, Alonso, Kimi, Max and must be a few more.
    But these drivers stand out from the rest and could actually be considered the best drivers at some point in their career.
    Many drivers didn't get to showcase their actual potential due to not getting the best cars therefore could not achieve good results. It is also true most of the drivers who participate have funding behind them.

  • @suchasreallife
    @suchasreallife Pƙed rokem

    A good drive coming with a lot of money will be chosen over and very good driver with no money all day when it comes to smaller teams bc they need the money to keep racing

  • @kswag
    @kswag Pƙed rokem

    I think it's really common that the most talented/gifted people are hiding in plain sight. If kids are equally and equitably exposed to something at a young age, then there's no denying that the talent pool will be larger. This ins't possible however because of living situations, responsibilities, or other issues that might prevent them from getting the opportunity. This is an unrealistic and extreme case, but if you make karting a mandatory sport in school right now, there will be drivers much better than Lewis, Schumacher, and Verstappen. This will also bring the field in all racing series much closer skill wise.

  • @zachemorgan
    @zachemorgan Pƙed rokem

    damn according to your chart skateboarding is a highly exclusive sport.

  • @BLITZKRIEG1
    @BLITZKRIEG1 Pƙed rokem +3

    no they're not. Most kids that follow the sport have no idea how drivers actually progress into it.

  • @DabDabGoose
    @DabDabGoose Pƙed 6 dny

    for me Max proves his place by how competitive he is in the online space given the lack of time he has to do it yet still is, same can not be said about most of the grid though, Norris is another one but he has given it up since Covid, but his pace was close to max.

  • @kevinschmidt3768
    @kevinschmidt3768 Pƙed rokem +2

    I usually don’t write comments but I just wanted to take a minute to thank you for your amazing Content, I watch all your videos and all are exceptional amazing
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  • @GallactusF1
    @GallactusF1 Pƙed rokem +8

    How does this effect Goatifi's Legacy?

  • @tiutubanana7506
    @tiutubanana7506 Pƙed rokem +1

    Some of the prices are exagerated, F4 doesnt 450k euros, it cost around 200-300k. Then you forgot about Formula Regional which would be around 500k, F3 around 850k and F2 2M.

  • @davialves8463
    @davialves8463 Pƙed rokem

    could you make a video about Ayrton Senna

  • @TommoOnYoutube
    @TommoOnYoutube Pƙed rokem +4

    Money money money

  • @sailor_seller
    @sailor_seller Pƙed rokem +2

    love how it opens up with a poke at Team L that won't shut up about 2021 Abu Dhabi for all eternity

    • @sagittated
      @sagittated Pƙed rokem +2

      Why would people be quiet about it?

    • @Slimmeyy
      @Slimmeyy Pƙed rokem

      @@sagittated because the result isn't gonna change, even with RBR breaching the cost cap in 2021. Hell, Ferrari used an illegal engine in 2019 and got to keep all their points.

    • @no1washerezz
      @no1washerezz Pƙed rokem

      @@Slimmeyy actually, whether or not the ferrari engine was actually illegal is behind closed doors because noone can confirm what actually made that engine so much quicker than the others. the suspected reason of course is the fuel flow sensor but the way that ferrari worked around this whether it was either outsmarting the sensor or straight up manipulating it is a secret between FIA and ferrari. therefore you cannot really conclude that ferrari cheated when we dont have the information about how they were so quick. red bull however, going over a cost cap is definitely cheating.

    • @Slimmeyy
      @Slimmeyy Pƙed rokem

      @@no1washerezz former F1 driver and F1 stewart Mika Salo spilled the beans. Every team running a Ferrari engine in 2020 had to use less fuel.

    • @no1washerezz
      @no1washerezz Pƙed rokem

      @@Slimmeyy that is the punishment. it does not entail why their engine was so quick and whether or not it was a grey area, or outright cheating

  • @mpmtembu
    @mpmtembu Pƙed rokem

    Nice to see South Africa counted as an F1 country. đŸ‘đŸŸ

  • @davidmanning1474
    @davidmanning1474 Pƙed rokem

    It's called elite sport for a reason

  • @6.0charleston843
    @6.0charleston843 Pƙed rokem

    Lance stroll changing the game . He's bringing the whole team !

  • @EmilFitness
    @EmilFitness Pƙed rokem +1

    They are the best among a pool of around 1.000 people between karts, indy, formula, nascar and such.
    Being the best among 1000 people is like being the best of a village
    They are good but if Formula 1 could have the same competition as football, none of the actual driver would be driving.

  • @Maxim89Il
    @Maxim89Il Pƙed rokem

    I think the winner of Formula 1 is the best open-wheel racer in the world, however, that's only one kind of racing.
    Rallying is a whole different sport, for example, and even that's divided between different categories.
    It's like with Moto GP and enduro racing with motorcycles.

  • @absurdname5492
    @absurdname5492 Pƙed rokem +1

    Generational talents can be spotted in this video. Lewis and Vettel both came from far poor family and yet they are the ones with the most championships in the current grid. As + Hamilton is the only black driver on the grid which must be given praise since at the time the joined f1 world was much more darker respect to current era that we live in.