Why China And The US Are Waging War Over Football

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    00:00 Why Are Americans Buying European Football Clubs?
    00:59 "Football is war"
    03:39 The Weird History of Football in the US
    05:15 One thing is different now...
    07:23 The 3 Reasons why Americans are investing in Football
    08:50 The Big Misunderstanding
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  • @daviddoner7316
    @daviddoner7316 Před rokem +1480

    "sports where one's hands are not used, are commie sports" 🤣😂 yo america was wilding

  • @nazmulahsan4057
    @nazmulahsan4057 Před rokem +653

    Because "football is the biggest sport in the world"-Zlatan Ibrahimovic

    • @dylanparker130
      @dylanparker130 Před rokem +44

      I'm surprised he didn't say "Because Zlatan is the biggest sport in the world" 😅

    • @VivanNotVivian
      @VivanNotVivian Před rokem +22

      @@dylanparker130 football is Zlatan Ibrahimovic

    • @VivanNotVivian
      @VivanNotVivian Před rokem

      @@porbodas2122 😂😂😂😂😂

    • @VivanNotVivian
      @VivanNotVivian Před rokem +3

      @@tumeric6227 Zlatan Ibrahimovic>>>>>>Tommo

    • @matpk
      @matpk Před rokem +1

      @@tumeric6227 Merge CONMEBOL And Concacaf NOW🎉The only way to challenge evil UEFA

  • @isaacmcquown
    @isaacmcquown Před rokem +417

    Football is significantly more popular in the US now then in the 80s. The real problem is that there was no media exposure. It wasn't until European clubs started selling tv contracts in the 90s and 2000s that football took off.

    • @josephcarland
      @josephcarland Před rokem +20

      It was also hosting the 94 world cup. Even though half of the US did'nt even know about it.

    • @za8bchem
      @za8bchem Před rokem +4

      Both countries sucks in football anyway. 😂

    • @user-yj7ve5zv9n
      @user-yj7ve5zv9n Před rokem

      ​@joseph carolan which ones?

    • @shaneg9081
      @shaneg9081 Před 11 měsíci +4

      I think the biggest thing may actually have been 90s parents seeing soccer as a safer sport, so more recent generations grew up with it in their lives. The average age of an MLB fan is like twice that of an MLS fan. And, of course, baseball was the sport that lost out the most as children changed sports.

    • @bigchum3984
      @bigchum3984 Před 10 měsíci

      There’s no way to enjoy higher level football as an adult in Canada. I can go play a Sunday league, but there’s no discussion beyond the basics with others who are into football. So the level of footballing around here is pretty stale.

  • @watchaporia
    @watchaporia Před rokem +565

    I like the chart "American Football", "Baseball", "Basketbal" , and "REAL FOOTBALL"

  • @schnitzelsemmel
    @schnitzelsemmel Před rokem +755

    Don't forget the demographic changes in the US. A lot of Latinos who grew up with football are now watching it in the US. At some games, more people watch the Spanish language broadcast than the English language broadcast

    • @blackamericanswishtheywerebraz
      @blackamericanswishtheywerebraz Před rokem +112

      That's actually why futbol is getting popular. Due to large influx of latinos. Especially mexicans. While they buy up European clubs. Most watch league in usa is liga mx

    • @XavierbTM1221
      @XavierbTM1221 Před rokem +6

      Mexicans dude

    • @dinianita8839
      @dinianita8839 Před rokem

      bruhh, they goverment discredit the latino in U.S, "look in" with smaller scope.
      the racist, weed, homeless, unemployed, and drugs become bigger problem in the U.S. The nation's such as China and U.S never be good as South America or Europe, where people still have their choice for living.
      U.S and China like biggest company as far as we know, they exploit anything from bad to the good things. Eventhough, soccer is for humanity (Free people who love the soccer it self), soccer is not thing that U.S.A and China can exploit.

    • @theshield1613
      @theshield1613 Před rokem +3

      @@blackamericanswishtheywerebraz its been popular for decades

    • @adrielardon186
      @adrielardon186 Před rokem +7

      @@XavierbTM1221 Mexican is not every Latin country Latin countries are from anywhere in South America to Central America and the only north American Latin country Mexico

  • @albertoliverani2937
    @albertoliverani2937 Před rokem +121

    AS Roma fan here. I am loving Friedkin's Roma management. They are mixing their enormous amount of cash and American expertise with Roma traditions. They hired Mourinho and won a trophy immediately. Nowadays Roma is having limitations in the transfers due to FFP. This situation was generated by Pallotta, the previous American chairman. Friedkin put more than half billion of euros in Roma. In July an agreement with Adidas is going to be announced and Friedkins are working with the city mayor in order to have the stadium built in 2027 (Roma 100 years anniversary). All of this shows that they do not want only to make profits, but also to place Roma in the top 10 of European clubs for a very long time.

    • @blaquenguni9249
      @blaquenguni9249 Před rokem +12

      I've always had a soft spot for Roman, should've won that Eurpeoan Cup in mid 80s vs Liverpool and that Cappello 2001 team might be my favorite league team of all time next to Milan.
      Great fans, all Roma kits are basically classic football jerseys

  • @barak-rocky-giles2081
    @barak-rocky-giles2081 Před rokem +483

    Very interesting analysis here. There are 2 aspects of the change in football in the US I think were missed opportunities (one was kind of skipped over and the other wasn't covered at all.)
    1.) The point is right that Beckham has immersed Inter Miami in Miami culture but more importantly, most of the MLS teams are doing the same in their own cities. Atlanta United is VERY Atlanta. Columbus Crew is VERY Columbus. The Sounders fit Seattles culture. Los Angeles has an annual match literally called El Tráfico between the rival clubs there. Nothing more LA than traffic. So while "football" may not be American, the MLS is starting to make "soccer" fit uniquely in each city that host a team.
    2.) The other biggest impact on the rise in soccer was probably AYSO. There are way more people now that have grown up playing the game so they are more familiar, have interest in the game as pro entertainment but MOST importantly, they are teaching their children which builds tradition, something that any growing sports MUST have to be successful.

    • @sebasoler5347
      @sebasoler5347 Před rokem +14

      Your 1st point is exactly why Football works everywhere else. In countries where football is big, almost every neighbourhood or town has its own team, and the identities of the place and the team are very intertwined. Rivalries and alliances are formed over time as teams play each other, and even more if the teams sometimes go up and down the divisions. You even form that "link" with the players that have played in your team (even if they are in Europe or somewhere else now) so when time comes that the national team is assembled, it very much is the representation of the overall identity of the country. So thats why i think a lot of people in the US dont think of football as having anything "American", you still need time to form those "bonds". But if the US keeps going down that path, of forming teams and players people get to know and identify with, it will be inevitable that one day you guys might think of football as something as "American" as Basketball or Baseball too

    • @barak-rocky-giles2081
      @barak-rocky-giles2081 Před rokem +17

      @@sebasoler5347 I agree with you. The most popular sport here in the U.S. is American Football and the culture of each team in each city is VERY different from each other to the point that they have unique personality traits that are common in their fans compared to the other teams in the same league. This makes sense because America is not very unified culturally nation wide. It's more unified by your region < state < city < town. The 2018 MLS Cup was the first time where more fans attended than the NFL Super Bowl (which was held like 4 months later in the same stadium) which is a huge deal here. Hopefully they keep moving in this direction. 🤞

    • @dylanparker130
      @dylanparker130 Před rokem +6

      Great post here: one of the cool things that I have seen in the MLS is that they give an award each year to "the best" fanbase of that season. I think that's a really cool idea as it could galvanise many of the fanbases who sit on their hands as a sign of their disapproval with the team's performance. After all, the "fair play" award probably created a disincentive to play cynically?

    • @kpunk
      @kpunk Před rokem +6

      1.) Beautiful point. I'd like to add that what made the growth of soccer fail in the US was their attempt to "Americanize" the game. But the game never needed to be Americanized. It's the soccer culture that had to be. I love how everyone makes fun of the Seattle supporters but their entire regional culture revolves around being weird and us making fun of their cringe chants will make them double down and I fucking love them for that.
      2.) MLS has a big opportunity to build a soccer culture that doesn't have the baggage of other footballing cultures. Unfortunately, this leads to some of them looking very sterile and domestic but I think it's the right route to make the sport as family friendly as possible

    • @_OscarIvan
      @_OscarIvan Před rokem +4

      NYCFC is pretty dope!

  • @bharatavarsha10k
    @bharatavarsha10k Před rokem +78

    Your videos are a therapy to sports fans❤️. Long way to go man🏋️

    • @AthleticInterest
      @AthleticInterest  Před rokem +15

      Maybe we should start charging like a therapist 😜

    • @domosayain65
      @domosayain65 Před rokem +2

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    • @gustavofernandezdevillanue8621
      @gustavofernandezdevillanue8621 Před rokem

      ​​​@@AthleticInterestpodrías por favor explicarme el tercer punto? 8:16

  • @mithoondas
    @mithoondas Před rokem +34

    This channel's videos have some incredible analysis, but the animations of the videos are even better. Outstanding! I love that 🥰😍.

  • @nerd26373
    @nerd26373 Před rokem +77

    We find videos on this channel very informative. May you continue to inspire others along the way.

  • @rohanchopraa
    @rohanchopraa Před rokem +316

    lol I love how he calls it REAL FOOTBALL 😂

  • @TheCelticFootballClub8541

    Football not popular in China??? Football might not be the main sport in China, BUT it’s still extremely popular. Football is the second most popular and loved sport in China just behind basketball.

    • @gustavofernandezdevillanue8621
      @gustavofernandezdevillanue8621 Před rokem +2

      Quizás se refería al fútbol chino pero si son muy seguidores del fútbol europeo

    • @crystalracing4794
      @crystalracing4794 Před 6 měsíci +1

      A sport being popular in a country doesn't mean they're good at it. Indonesia loves football, but their clubs and national side are wack.

  • @TSierra
    @TSierra Před rokem +5

    Every time you upload, I always click on the video. Your content is amazing and well done. Good job Athletic Interest!

  • @TemiToba
    @TemiToba Před rokem

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  • @neptunite5973
    @neptunite5973 Před rokem +4

    1:57 i know it's a simplified map but you're missing the entirety of Fyn/Funen in Denmark. just something i notice because I'm danish myself. other than that, great vid as always :)

  • @MrEgor31
    @MrEgor31 Před rokem +1

    Great work
    Awesome investigations
    Thank You

  • @kyliemiu
    @kyliemiu Před rokem +72

    Football is very popular in China. We are just not very good at it.

    • @tekajikuyalkrul5111
      @tekajikuyalkrul5111 Před rokem

      Ooofff

    • @leroiarouf1142
      @leroiarouf1142 Před rokem

      Cchina banned foreign player that why china league is weak

    • @LoveMyPeople04
      @LoveMyPeople04 Před rokem +16

      Lol at least you’re honest

    • @---ce7gq
      @---ce7gq Před rokem +12

      Nah, more likely a matter of the sport not being traditional in the country, which significantly affects the capacity of clubs to form good players.

    • @FBI.capturo.gente.rara.
      @FBI.capturo.gente.rara. Před rokem

      especially for the fanaticism of Messi and Cristiano

  • @marihove
    @marihove Před rokem

    Always a pleasure to see you have uploaded!

  • @TheAmasonic
    @TheAmasonic Před rokem +93

    One reason that football is globally popular is precisely because it's not an American sport. That way, the barriers to participation are very low. No such thing as buying franchises, which allows a club to start from a low league and grow: e.g Brentford most recently. It has also meant that there are efforts made to have other countries adopt the sport so a tournament like the World Cup is truly global. If it were an American sport, being the world's biggest market will mean there is no need to increase the sport's popularity even in Mexico.

    • @joee5109
      @joee5109 Před rokem +14

      this makes absolutely no sense

    • @TheAmasonic
      @TheAmasonic Před rokem +1

      @@joee5109 lol okay

    • @ohhah1255
      @ohhah1255 Před rokem +8

      @@joee5109 That actually makes a lot of sense, you just have no idea what you're talking about. America is about money, that's all it cares about.

    • @joee5109
      @joee5109 Před rokem

      @@ohhah1255 ok commie

    • @joee5109
      @joee5109 Před rokem +8

      @@ohhah1255 How does something not being American make it more accessible? magic?
      No such thing as buying franchises? Didn't both Chinese and American investors buy up clubs like real Madrid? 😂
      Apparently only non American sports can start up local clubs didn't realize that was a missing law of physics
      Somehow only a sport started outside of america can spread according to OP. nevermind the large basketball audience in China or the attempts to bring American football to England.
      So because America is the biggest market even though it isn't (see china and India) there is no incentive to capitalize on foreign markets????
      must be why we only have McDonald's and Hollywood movies in America only
      oh wait both those things are sold globally

  • @AsparagusAutist
    @AsparagusAutist Před rokem +14

    lol that "real football" on chart 😂

  • @shaikaftab1199
    @shaikaftab1199 Před rokem +1

    Brillant video once again Atletic Interest.

  • @ApocalypticFart
    @ApocalypticFart Před rokem +8

    Great content as always

  • @bill_achman67
    @bill_achman67 Před rokem

    bro you're editing skill 🔥🔥

  • @babsbarry7042
    @babsbarry7042 Před rokem +1

    This is a really good video. Story and art style is on check!

  • @Loliver8254
    @Loliver8254 Před rokem +61

    Every time he uploads it’s a good day

    • @AthleticInterest
      @AthleticInterest  Před rokem +9

      😄 Very glad you feel that way

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      @matpk Před rokem +1

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  • @brandonbohr.7301
    @brandonbohr.7301 Před rokem +15

    I really appreciate the high quality of your videos.

    • @AthleticInterest
      @AthleticInterest  Před rokem +1

      Thanks, Brandon!

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  • @davidvalencia129
    @davidvalencia129 Před rokem +20

    The big hit would be if anyone of them manages to buy Real Madrid and or barcelona (they still grab the most views out of any clubs)

    • @andrecarvalho1339
      @andrecarvalho1339 Před rokem +10

      These clubs are fan owned, really doubt the fans would give up the club, the best shot would be if Barcelona crashed financially but fans might prefer being relegated to being sold

    • @thelinedrive
      @thelinedrive Před rokem +2

      With the way Barca is spending money an American Venture capital firm is going to swoop in a buy it because of how debt leveraged it is.

  • @madeezo
    @madeezo Před rokem +9

    I think mentioning Project 2010 would be worthwhile for the development of soccer in the US

  • @regular3233
    @regular3233 Před rokem

    Good job as always and what is this?
    What a cold thumbnail 🥶

  • @kpunk
    @kpunk Před rokem +19

    What you did not mention in the video is that UEFA lobbied FIFA to intervene with the ASL because of them buying Europe based footballers to play in the US. This led to the sport being labeled as "foreign" due to outside interference. Also, American soccer will take time to grow because less than 1 generation of Americans have access to local professional teams. Tradition is essential in football culture and it will take time for such soccer traditions to form for Americans. There are no shortcuts to football and China has been proof that just throwing billions of dollars can get you nowhere

    • @gustavofernandezdevillanue8621
      @gustavofernandezdevillanue8621 Před rokem +2

      Tienen que ver a los clubes como eso "clubes" y no franquicias. Porque el fútbol tiene toda una historia en si.

  • @triviennguyen6204
    @triviennguyen6204 Před rokem +17

    Well if USA and China war with football instead of military, that's a W.

  • @MnM008
    @MnM008 Před rokem +9

    If cashing out is a reason then the famous footballer like Beckham should invest in Kerala/west bengal clubs from India... It will change the game here since he is famous and also brings more investors into Indian football which means more money

  • @cescfabregas4377
    @cescfabregas4377 Před rokem

    Great video!

  • @mohamedswaleh668
    @mohamedswaleh668 Před rokem +13

    Bro just had to mention F1😂🤝...great content though

  • @gunawanghulam7639
    @gunawanghulam7639 Před rokem

    I always waiting every new video from athletic interest.....

  • @bayokoebi9351
    @bayokoebi9351 Před rokem +33

    No sports can get to football level no matter how hard any country try

    • @realtalk6195
      @realtalk6195 Před rokem +3

      In 19th and early 20th century, Rugby football was the biggest sport and Association football was pretty small. It took a century for soccer to get as big as it has and most of it happened in the 90s alone. It can be overtaken by the end of this century, so you can never be so sure.

    • @qilimercurial5116
      @qilimercurial5116 Před rokem +9

      @@realtalk6195 sorry.. football will continue to grow and grow…

    • @KingshukMonsur
      @KingshukMonsur Před rokem +1

      @David Montgomery you just need any field to play football .playing basketball will be more luxury or complicated

    • @yahirtrinidadgarcia2003
      @yahirtrinidadgarcia2003 Před rokem

      @@KingshukMonsuryes you can play football anywhere in basketball you need to built a hoop which is expensive in many countries

    • @MedoViciante
      @MedoViciante Před rokem +1

      @David Montgomery Baseball sucks, it's boring asf. At least here in South America Baseball is not popular nor American Football despite the fact some people try to push it to people.

  • @nick6014cool
    @nick6014cool Před rokem +3

    In US it’s always been an immigrant and rich people sport. Some games of abunch of kids from the hood and the wealthiest in the state were always hilarious while growing up and also had the most interesting dynamic

  • @christianroelferreira1889

    Some of those "American investors" are English people who made money in America e..g. at Plymouth argyle where the owner was born in and grew up in Plymouth. I feel like there should be a distinction. Like is Juventus American-owned cause Elkann in American? Love the video as always!!

  • @ranzroffel2692
    @ranzroffel2692 Před rokem +3

    Thanks for using Aston Villa in a more positive context 🥰

  • @eggfriedrice566
    @eggfriedrice566 Před rokem +18

    As a Chinese living in the US, I think the 26 World Cup will be the real trigger for American soccer (football) to become a superpower. As for our national team, it is just as bad as our political system - I cannot see the dawn for these two things in China to be better.

    • @ch0mp733
      @ch0mp733 Před rokem +1

      Everyone can tell your chineese bro. Doesn’t give you a higher opinion. The us national team isn’t bad they made it to round of 16 in World Cup and while they can improve a ton they aren’t bad

    • @tobitt_6028
      @tobitt_6028 Před rokem +8

      @@ch0mp733 ?? he’s not even saying it’s bad 💀 you even read the comment dawg. tf you talking bout 😂

    • @Superpooper-2020
      @Superpooper-2020 Před rokem

      As an Indian living in America I have a dream my country will be a football powerhouse one day but sadly that won't come true atleast not in this century because my c0untry is very p0or and 99% 0f us Inddians can't even aff0rd 2 times meal

    • @joshhagan1905
      @joshhagan1905 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@ch0mp733 He's talking about the Chinese National team not the US one, mate.

    • @hugochen8513
      @hugochen8513 Před 7 měsíci +1

      说啥都要拉上政治,老兄你是魔障了吧?作为一位生活在加拿大的中国人,我并不认为中国的政治制度不好。

  • @The_G.O.A.T__
    @The_G.O.A.T__ Před rokem +10

    Another quality content I assume 😁

    • @AthleticInterest
      @AthleticInterest  Před rokem +1

      Hopefully you assumed correctly 😅

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      @matpk Před rokem

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  • @williamhines1235
    @williamhines1235 Před rokem

    great video!

  • @fouadbenrezzak8398
    @fouadbenrezzak8398 Před rokem +47

    Football is not just a game
    Its more then that
    Its a way of peaceful war

    • @KingshukMonsur
      @KingshukMonsur Před rokem +6

      @PORBO DAS bro is talking about football not American rugby

    • @---ce7gq
      @---ce7gq Před rokem

      @@porbodas2122
      Mate, he is talking about football not american -hand- football

  • @astdhg3063
    @astdhg3063 Před rokem +13

    I wish someday you'll make a video on why cricket is only popular in India

    • @ratedpending
      @ratedpending Před rokem +8

      It's not only popular in India so idk why he'd do that

    • @dinamosflams
      @dinamosflams Před rokem +4

      tbh they are india. Sometimes it seems that the smallest competition of cricket can surpass some football world cup audiences

    • @iameverywhere8551
      @iameverywhere8551 Před rokem

      Lmao it's more famous in England!!
      They support teams which are 200 years ol

    • @wesleyhunt7599
      @wesleyhunt7599 Před rokem +1

      England and Australia would like a word

    • @arturobustinza6265
      @arturobustinza6265 Před 10 měsíci

      @@dinamosflams hahaha good joke

  • @GTM9164
    @GTM9164 Před rokem +3

    Honestly if you made an hr long video on this topic and others I'd watch it

  • @LaowaiDaveJCP
    @LaowaiDaveJCP Před rokem +9

    As i was Livin there as a coach I've seen the huge transitions brought by big investors, big Chinese companies pumpin money into the domestic Leagues, building huge stadiums but it sorta like failed(or stagnated) especially after 2019. I think first a nation need to love a sport, feel the sport, embrace it and only then by proper investment you can bring out a dream team. China is still far way away. There are hundreds of millions of Chinese worship Lebron James or Fan Zhendong not Messi.

    • @---ce7gq
      @---ce7gq Před rokem +3

      The day football becomes the most popular and traditional sport in China, the world will shudder.
      I mean, a country with 1,4 billion people eager for football, with an economy capable of providing all the necessary investment and support...

    • @LeGoat-23
      @LeGoat-23 Před rokem +3

      @@---ce7gq China loves basketball but they haven't even produce a good nba player since Yao Ming. US is more likely to become a global football powerhouse if football becomes their 2nd or 3rd most popular sport than China ever will be. A lot of Americans considers sports as a profession they also have a lot of good athletes just playing in NFL or NBA. Chinese people don't consider sports as a profession and prefer to make their kids study.

    • @guangzhouguide
      @guangzhouguide Před rokem

      you're right, CHinese is far behind the football fever, I don't think we love football, though I am a 30 yrs football fans

    • @guangzhouguide
      @guangzhouguide Před rokem

      @@---ce7gq when Chinese parents think of their kids have no hope to be rich by study hard, maybe this is the day football become REAL popular in CN

  • @Lakshmi1118
    @Lakshmi1118 Před rokem +1

    “…so far, neither country seems to be a threat on the pitch.”
    Shady boots!!! 😂😅😂

  • @HerreDePerre
    @HerreDePerre Před rokem +2

    One of the best channels on CZcams

  • @entropicnic6892
    @entropicnic6892 Před rokem +6

    "the MLS failed to build on the momentum." I would argue American soccer, namely the domestic leagues MLS, NWSL, USLC etc, are at all time highs right now. That graph shows a very eurocentric bias

    • @buck7352
      @buck7352 Před rokem +1

      Na MLS sucks. Changes need to be made

    • @KanyeTheGayFish69
      @KanyeTheGayFish69 Před rokem

      Dude no one in the us watches the mls. Literally no one. I’ve never heard people talk about the mls like they talk about other American sports leagues or even the World Cup.

    • @entropicnic6892
      @entropicnic6892 Před rokem

      @@KanyeTheGayFish69 pull your head out of your ass and talk to people bruh I know many avid mls fans

    • @KanyeTheGayFish69
      @KanyeTheGayFish69 Před rokem

      The only time that most people care about soccer in the us is during the World Cup. Most people probably don’t even know their local mls team.

  • @MrReese
    @MrReese Před rokem +4

    I would argue that it has not been happening "in recent years" that clubs like Arsenal and Liverpool were majority-owned by US businesses or businessmen. I would say that "recent years" means roughly 5 years; however, Kroenke got majority ownership of Arsenal in 2011 and Liverpool has been owned by Fenway Sports Group since 2010. There are even talks about Fenway selling Liverpool at the moment, so they may want to get rid of European club ownership like the Chinese have been doing recently.
    Also, both the Arsenal supporters and the ManUtd supporters want the US investors to sell their respective clubs because what they have been doing is taking money out of the club into their own pockets while the clubs have been deteriorating. So it seems like either you get US investors who use the club to fill their own pockets even more or you get owners from the Near East who invest heavily into the club with their blood money. This is why I love Germany's 50+1 rule and hope that they will never get rid of it.
    Regarding "undervalued assets", I think it was a bad choice to use Chelsea as one of these clubs in the table at 8:20 . Chelsea cost Boehly 3.5 Bn, so just as much as those NFL teams are apparently worth according to the table. Saying that European football clubs cost "way less" is kind of wrong. Yes, they cost less when you buy a club that is struggling financially and/or on the pitch, like Newcastle United for example, but Newcastle wasn't bought by an US investor, it was bought by the Saudis for almost nothing in comparison.
    Inestments like the ones into ManUtd by the Glazers, Arsenal by the Kroenke, or Liverpool by FSG are the ones that really make a lot of money now that the value of these clubs has shot up. Buying Chelsea for 3.5 Bn was hardly a bargain or something that Boehly will get a proper net income from. But who knows, maybe the top Premier League clubs will be worth 6 Bn in 10 years - and if that will be the case I am sure AI will make a video about it :).

    • @DerAustor01
      @DerAustor01 Před rokem

      You have made me read the long comment of yours

  • @freebornjohn2687
    @freebornjohn2687 Před 10 měsíci +3

    Football is a global sport because the Brits took it round the world over a hundred years ago. The US developed its own sports, China was caught up with its own traditions as well as a lot of political chaos.

  • @shubhojitghosh69
    @shubhojitghosh69 Před rokem +2

    I think u have to give credit to Klinssman for the representation of the sports in US television.

  • @olliehowarth3343
    @olliehowarth3343 Před rokem +2

    I am so happy to see Toulouse fc on the thumb nail ❤❤

  • @tobbi11
    @tobbi11 Před rokem

    I don't know about the rest of you but I'm loving this

  • @diegoboella3920
    @diegoboella3920 Před rokem

    How did I miss that one ?!!

  • @typicalnewyorker5993
    @typicalnewyorker5993 Před rokem +2

    I’ve always known soccer made more money then all the sports in America but it’s hard to find this kind of info around on google. So many ppl talk smack and soccer is just way bigger. Do you mind sending a link to read up on that please ?

    • @KanyeTheGayFish69
      @KanyeTheGayFish69 Před rokem

      The nfl and nba make more money than any one league. He combined all the top leagues together and probably uefa champions league as well to get that info.

  • @SALVADORANFIRE
    @SALVADORANFIRE Před rokem +10

    Real football is rising up in the US. 🔥

  • @bobbymax9510
    @bobbymax9510 Před rokem

    6:01 "real footbal" i love it

  • @wapka761
    @wapka761 Před rokem +18

    Please stop to forget about Hainan island (the quite round island near Vietnam) when you highlight the whole territory of China. They are barely 10 millions inhabitants but they still deserve to be counted 🤣. They recently build there a gorgeous stadium for 1B.RMB (Wuyuanhe Stadium), that is not used much. I guess they are waiting to create a good football there.

    • @huykim4663
      @huykim4663 Před rokem

      It’s OK, man. Alaska isn’t American according to the video, anyway.

  • @criticaloptimist
    @criticaloptimist Před 8 měsíci +1

    The omission of the USWNT in this video about soccer in America is so frustrating. They’ve been the brightest light in our soccer culture.

  • @alexfrancis9625
    @alexfrancis9625 Před rokem

    I like your videos, but the music doesn’t match. Its a really weird beat and hard to follow along. The music you used for the messi video is intriguing on its own., making it extra interesting.
    Just a thought

  • @SeriousBartYT
    @SeriousBartYT Před rokem +16

    In 4 years time Pulisic, Reyna, Sargent, Dest, Adams and Weah would all either be in their prime or nearing their prime (a good core).. with a good coach, they may well be a potential dark horse. The US gave it their all but made 4 errors (conceded 3 goals) to a far more experienced, wily and clinical Dutch side (with LVG in-charge, who is the best Dutch manager since Cruyff).
    Also, watchout for Cade Cowell of San Jose Earthquakes fame...this boy can dribble.

    • @blackamericanswishtheywerebraz
      @blackamericanswishtheywerebraz Před rokem

      USA HYPING UP LIKE THEIR NATIONAL TEAM. AS ALWAYS

    • @daniellazo888
      @daniellazo888 Před rokem

      In 4 years time the US might just reach the quarterfinals, and that's it. It's not like the other countries are not going to continue to develop. The US might not even be the top football country in concacaf in 4 years, that will probably be Canada, who are currently better that the US despite their lackluster performance at the world cup (they had a harder group, too).

    • @adriantsien1867
      @adriantsien1867 Před rokem

      @@daniellazo888 Canada is not better than the US in recent performance or rankings. And US soccer is developing faster than most other countries.

    • @KanyeTheGayFish69
      @KanyeTheGayFish69 Před rokem

      @@daniellazo888 Canada is not better than the us in any way shape or form. They obviously were in over their head at the World Cup. Not to mention Canada has less than 1/10th the us population, and lower than California.

    • @KanyeTheGayFish69
      @KanyeTheGayFish69 Před rokem

      @@daniellazo888 I guarantee you us and Mexico will be better than Canada is 4 years.

  • @damianpollack5699
    @damianpollack5699 Před rokem +1

    I live in the US and from even just 4 years ago to now and football is very popular here. The games are available to watch and kids play a lot. In school everyone watches the world cup during class and after weekends kids talk about premier league games in particular but also the other leagues in europe. Nobody cares about MLS though.

  • @ancientadrian514
    @ancientadrian514 Před rokem +2

    USA is clearing winning the soccer (football) war over China as of now. The CSL is in financial trouble and their national team didn’t qualify this past World Cup. For the USA, we have loads of young players playing in Europe along with american billionaires buying European clubs. But most importantly, the 2026 WC is coming to North America, which will give MLS and USMNT a huge boost while China remains the same.

  • @r.a.5086
    @r.a.5086 Před rokem +3

    "Still not interested."
    --Everyday Americans who would rather follow American football.

  • @NihinduAngana
    @NihinduAngana Před rokem +4

    Its really weird when the owner has no connection to the football.. a place in which its not a business first.. its something more than that!!
    but as always great video mate!!

  • @_nitin_69
    @_nitin_69 Před rokem +47

    i get why americans call it a communist sport, fans are very much involved and attached to their clubs, the money is less for owners, but this is what makes it the best sport in the world. i don't care if america doesn't likes it. big investment recently from america and middle east is already causing imbalance between the teams so I'd very much like it if they can keep their money to themselves and let the fans have this sport

    • @thorazine8402
      @thorazine8402 Před rokem +10

      Are you American? I ask, because I am, and the communist take is way overblown. I’ve NEVER heard anyone here call it communist, and I’m almost 60. Maybe a Trumpanzee might say that, but I’ve never heard it. There was alot of bias against it as a game of foreigners when I was growing up, but it’s really hard to believe that Americans would call something communist when Germans, English, Italians and Latin Americans play it.

    • @ranelgallardo7031
      @ranelgallardo7031 Před rokem

      @@thorazine8402 Your hardcore far right American thinks Canada is a Communist country so if they think that then they’ll think of those as Communist.

    • @sports2624
      @sports2624 Před rokem

      @@thorazine8402 I hadn't heard it until Ann Coulter.

    • @sports2624
      @sports2624 Před rokem

      @David Montgomery Ann "Coulter: Any growing interest in soccer a sign of nation's moral decay"

    • @JorgeM270
      @JorgeM270 Před rokem

      I've literally never heard anyone call it a communist sport. They just call it boring, but people get excited for the World Cup

  • @hotmechanic222
    @hotmechanic222 Před rokem +2

    7:05 when did Coventry City (AKA pride of the midlands) get bought by the Americans???????

  • @Kodunkion
    @Kodunkion Před rokem +15

    There's definitely a shift coming soon for football in the US, considering iShowSpeed's popularity and his infatuation with football, as well as Ronaldo of course, we may see attitude towards football change as older people there whom simply consider football to be communist stop existing.

  • @gareth6956
    @gareth6956 Před rokem

    8:29 you're wrong about villa being an asset flip becuase the owners cant get into closed leagues, villas owners have a MLS franchise approved and one of the owners already owns the MLB side Milwaukee bucks

  • @adrienlgd6402
    @adrienlgd6402 Před 10 měsíci

    One of the main issues if not the most important one, is that you can't put ads during a game of football (except at half-time of course). It's 45 min twice straight with no cuts or break. In baseball, basketball and american football, it is the opposite. The cultural approach of sports is also not the same in the US than in Europe (spectacle vs sport for instance). For a breakthrough, the US sport culture needs to change or it will never break really into the market.

  • @2brave1
    @2brave1 Před rokem +41

    It’s about time American Football should be called what it really is, American Rugby.

    • @nabhannbn
      @nabhannbn Před rokem +7

      Rugby also a football , the first football to have the written rules - rugby football

    • @Bentley7Cruize
      @Bentley7Cruize Před rokem +3

      No, throwball is the best name for it really

    • @agrid2608
      @agrid2608 Před rokem +5

      HANDEGG!!

    • @ratedpending
      @ratedpending Před rokem

      Rugby is in England why would we call it that, rather call it Ohio or something

    • @2brave1
      @2brave1 Před rokem +1

      Rugby 🏉 is played in many, many countries. That’s why there’s a Rugby World Cup. The similarities between rugby and American football 🏈 are many and obvious.

  • @joshuaraminha8339
    @joshuaraminha8339 Před rokem +4

    Barely mentioned mls in the video the league is growing more popular every year also seemed to put the usmt on the same scale as China when the usmnt is regularly making it past the group stages in many of our world cups this video also did not talk about us talent either I felt this was very disingenuous towards us soccer considering they are ranked 16th in the world lol

  • @zhongyuan2563
    @zhongyuan2563 Před rokem

    l live in china but i think the war of football between CN and US are just in commerical fator.But now football amosphere are getting more and more rare in china.I mean there are still many people watch football game but fewer kid play football on the pitch .

  • @fifaplayer-ve2zb
    @fifaplayer-ve2zb Před rokem +1

    05:56 I like how you guys used “real football” instead of “soccer” 😂

  • @rockysage7760
    @rockysage7760 Před rokem +15

    Japan for world Cup

  • @shanicestella2226
    @shanicestella2226 Před 6 měsíci

    I know this both countries simply seeing a football as money making machine
    This Both Country required an importance of young talent scouting , grassroot method and an effective football youth training program not simply an instant way by budget overspend to establishing a club

  • @dabootvv
    @dabootvv Před rokem

    why no mention of NHL? I know its smaller but it give it some love!

  • @giodhuha6771
    @giodhuha6771 Před rokem

    I thought you were sponsored by Spotify 😂

  • @stephenrobinson8244
    @stephenrobinson8244 Před rokem

    My local team Wycombe Wanderers owned by us investment and my main team arsenal. Nice

  • @lfavaro
    @lfavaro Před rokem +3

    As a Brazilian, I laught at their both.

  • @sochonik1139
    @sochonik1139 Před rokem +1

    Is there still an english Club with english owners or is it all american and middle east?

  • @112steinway
    @112steinway Před rokem +4

    Speaking as an ugly American I think this video did a great job of talking about why football didn't catch on in the States, but I think it misses some other points that go beyond Americans simply thinking football is just for communists.
    A lot of kids play football in the United States, myself included, but for the men's game it's usually made up of kids who couldn't hit a baseball, weren't big enough for basketball, or had parents that refused to let their kids risk a concussion in armored rugby. If a kid possesses god tier athletic abilities in the States, they usually get sent off to one of our homegrown sports, which means the quality of play for football in youth leagues is pretty bad, which has a negative impact on interest and audience engagement.
    What's interesting is that while the talent pool for the men's game is somewhat lacking it's not the case for women. Football enjoys a healthy interest in US women's sports and as a result we get good athletes playing, which fosters better competition, which means better teams, which translates into the US women's team being one of the best in the world.
    So I tend to agree with the video and the comments that American men's soccer is getting better through a combination of increased interest, more money, and changing demographics.

  • @ppipinping
    @ppipinping Před rokem +4

    Football grew to what this is without USA, so we can just let them be... football can be football without USA

    • @ganjabobby
      @ganjabobby Před rokem +2

      100% - they could ruin it forever

  • @SirSayakaMikiThe3rd
    @SirSayakaMikiThe3rd Před 6 měsíci

    This video is almost a year old, so now its more clear than ever that the US is on the upturn. Our starting 11 are essentially all in top European leagues, Messi and other high profile players are in MLS(while not the first time, but Messi is a whole other level), the MLS is growing exponentially, Apple has invested a lot in streaming rights for MLS, etc. Seeing Juventus vs AC Milan with four americans starting really says a lot about our growth.

    • @fbifbi9528
      @fbifbi9528 Před 3 měsíci

      Now we have ballers like Johny C in real Betis and a GK in Barça’s youth team we are so far ahead of china it’s insane

    • @SirSayakaMikiThe3rd
      @SirSayakaMikiThe3rd Před 3 měsíci +1

      @@fbifbi9528
      It's not a contest anymore. The USMNT is full of players in the top leagues in Europe and MLS is growing in popularity without having to rely on massively popular players, though obviously it has helped haha.

  • @alejandromorales786
    @alejandromorales786 Před rokem +2

    All of European soccer makes more than NFL,NBA,and MLB. Isn't that kind of unfair to say? Europe has probably 20+ leuages and its being compared to just 3. Can someone clarify?

    • @walker261
      @walker261 Před rokem +1

      Coz NFL, NBA don't have relegation system, all of the money go to certain club or team, while in Europe, big to small club, every club can relegated, more easy to bankrupt. 1990s big club are now small club. And most importantly, USA is huge and population, it is fair to compare to whole Europe

  • @isaacgogna9856
    @isaacgogna9856 Před rokem +1

    Mls never capitalizes on the World Cup. I’ve seen zero advertisements for MLS during the World Cup. And then it complains it isn’t growing enough. They just hope people look up their local team after watching the World Cup but most Americans don’t even realize MLS exists so why would they look up their nearest teams. Especially when the biggest players are all going to Europe. Americans are more familiar with Barcelona than LA Galaxy

  • @thegoat5587
    @thegoat5587 Před rokem +2

    You need to have a football culture ,e.g, kids playing on the street barefoot or students playing during their lunch break and eating during class. Its something natural, and should not be forced!

  • @rf7814
    @rf7814 Před rokem +4

    Not one serious person here in America thinks that football is communist, I thought you were joking but you just kept saying it. It's unserious

  • @heyah1447
    @heyah1447 Před rokem +5

    Make British and Italian clubs, British and Italian again.

  • @swaggertbruce
    @swaggertbruce Před rokem

    I love the voice of yours🥰🥰🥰🥰

  • @leafrika6520
    @leafrika6520 Před rokem +3

    America needs to make football interesting in America just like everywhere else

  • @kuroazrem5376
    @kuroazrem5376 Před rokem +13

    I think it's best that the USA and China keep their dirty hands out of football.

  • @tstevenshstevens372
    @tstevenshstevens372 Před rokem +2

    This is the half truth MLS soccer in 2022 was number 2 for ticket sales of any major league soccer league in the World. Seattle and Atlanta get about 30,000-50,000 tickets a game. Portland sales out every game. Soccer is not number one, but it is growing in the USA. The women World Cup soccer team have won it 4 times. It has very high T.V. ratings!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @obsidianstatue
    @obsidianstatue Před rokem +1

    American sports are literally the opposite of Football
    American sports is a constant affair of stop and start, American football especially has set pieces
    Whereas football is all about the flow and momentum, a team can collapse like what Brazil did against Germany in the 2014 world cup

  • @S-SATYAPRATAPSINGH
    @S-SATYAPRATAPSINGH Před rokem

    Can u make a video on cr7 and messi after football life

  • @chaznightlord8664
    @chaznightlord8664 Před rokem +3

    Not a threat on the pitch? The USMNT is ranked 16th in the world and the USWNT is back-to-back world champs. The USMNT is not the quality of France or Brazil, but it's miles and miles from the anemic Chinese team. This is also true of the domestic leagues! MLS is a slowly growing power that is not middle ranked, the Chinese super league is mostly a joke outside of a few big name players who got fat contracts from a few years ago when China was trying to buy relevancy instead of develop it. You should at least mention all these things when trying to make a video comparing how the US and China are impacting the development of soccer/football

  • @darthimperius8057
    @darthimperius8057 Před rokem +2

    USA and China: throw money to win world cup
    Croatia: driven by patriotic fever only

  • @amyhartman6786
    @amyhartman6786 Před rokem +3

    Well I would rather have the 2 countries barging at who is better "between the 2" at kicking a ball back and forth at each other on some random stadium field, then having the 2 countries launching some missiles at each other while destroying all the farmer's fields and infrastructure in the processes.

  • @fernandoalvarez9613
    @fernandoalvarez9613 Před rokem

    A European Super league is the endgame of American investment. The US mode of New York Vs Los Angeles can generate more in Europe with London Vs Paris or Madrid Vs Berlin.