CHRIS BROWN disses QUAVO for BEATING WOMEN?
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Ep 219 | The boys discuss the latest in Rap Game WW3
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0:52 lightskin creole vampires
5:56 whats taking KENDRICK so long?
14:41 BREEZY disses QUAVO over DOMESTIC ABUSE??
26:41 Is it a RED FLAG if they have the same number of bodies as you??
37:39 he fell asleep before my "got home safe" text - Komedie
I always look forward to your podcast. It's the best non-toxic brocast. Y'all have the perfect amount of degeneracy mixed with intellectual conversation. I always laugh and learn.
This is why I’m such a huge fan
Tbh Megan the Stallion had to best diss of the year so far , kinda kicked off this wave of folks coming at each other. Remember that record went #1.
Yeah I thought it was weird how they didn't mention Hiss at all. I hope Kendrick and Meg make a song together.
Hiss has definitely been my favorite one released this year. She cleared the whole deck and did it with style. It's still in my playlist
Talk about it!!! Kinda crazy how folks are Still sleeping on 'female rappers' (and the fact that it is its own qualifier is the point).
Megan's Law!!!
Honestly, I like all three diss tracks but Hiss is still kinda top dawg for me. From the fact that she made the first one of the year, to the opponents she chose to address (Drake AND Nicki?? And more ppl? On a single song?? That’s so bold you gotta just respect it off rip), to her delivery being scathing af. The way she says “Megan’s law!” and “posted in another nigga hood like a bad bitch!” is the most aggressive she’s been on a beat. She’s got the crown for it for me. I expect that when Kendrick responds to Drake he’ll be on that same type of time with the delivery and take the crown. But we’ll see.
I'm with Alvin on women's friendships. I was raised as a cis woman and I am AFAB, now identifying as NB, but I'm also neurodivergent and visibility racialized as black in an elitist, extremely conservative white area, so I didn't have ANY friends growing up. Now as an adult NB woman, a lot of friendships with women completely baffle me. It's not always like this, I do have some pretty low maintenance cis women friends, but there are some women who have this unspoken expectation for you to be their confidant, pseudo therapist, ride or die, brunch buddy, hobby-friend, down for anything bestie when they need you, but don't be overbearing when they don't need you because theyre also an adult and theyre also busy....It's so confusing, especially since they'll rarely come out and specify their expectations, they will just assume and then start acting funny when you don't perform to their unspoken requests. I don't know how much of it is my neurodivergency and how much of it is the strange, subtle machinations of women's friendships, but it definitely gives me headaches and I've had to just cut some people off. I overall vibe better with equally low maintenance people who are more similar to Alvin in general because at the bare minimum they will state what they want or dont want bluntly and take the super stressful guesswork out of it and put me out of misery. I can't read between the lines! I didn't even know there were lines to read between! 🫠
Hey, so I think part of this may be your discomfort with other people's discomfort. Lots of women wear their emotional reactivity on their sleeve, so will frequently make big emotional asks of their female friends and have big emotions when those asks are not met. But that's all ok. It's ok for them to have big feelings, and it's ok for you to not always show up for their big feelings. And it's also ok for them to say they are disappointed sometimes. We will all disappoint loved ones a LOT, that's part of life, and it doesn't need to be the end of things. So I think part of this for you is realizing someone pointing big negative feelings at you is often not a reflection of your worth or you doing anything wrong. Don't internalize it as a failing. Apologize to the extent you feel you want, take space! when you need, and accept close female friendships will often have a lot of big feelings followed by repair. Compared to male friendships, where often 'I feel hurt' is basically only said once and it's the end. I turned the corner to healthy friendships with women when I started saying, 'being mad at me is fine! You can tell me, I can listen, and stay friends. I want you to let me know when you're mad at me and trust me I can handle it and still like you.' So yeah, my female friends get pissed at me sometimes, I don't take it personally, and then they get over it. I've just learned to see the emotions of people with big emotions as less anxiety provoking. Hope that helps!
Did you steal this page from my journal??? If so, you will do time. lol
Creole is an ethnicity, like Hispanic, so Creole people can be of any race or mixture. Originally, the French used the term to describe anybody born in the New World. They eventually formed their own unique culture and customs. New Orleans in particular always had a large Black and biracial Creole population who proudly identified with their Creole heritage, as a result, by the 20th century many (not all) white Creoles began to distance themselves from the term. Cajuns (Acadians) were a separate group of French immigrants that initially went to Canada and later came to Louisiana to escape English persecution.
Thank you for breaking this down! My French uncle is from Martinique originally and dark skinned, it always confused me that he was the same ethnicity as Amber Rose and Beyoncé's mum. His dad was a Creole jazz musician, but it sounded different to the New Orleans style, more distinctive to Martinique, Guadeloupe etc. Assumed colonialism had something to do with it, as it always does, but thanks for spelling it out!
@@EzraSproutsamber rose is Cape Verdean not creole. And do people from Martinique consider themselves creole? I’d lived in France a have friends from there and I’d never heard that. That’s interesting! Creole in the US is what they were describing in the video and seemingly in the comment. People speak various versions of creole in many countries and the people don’t necessarily identify as creole so I don’t know that the people you named would all be the same ethnicity….from the info you shared in your comment.
@smarti1144 thank you for the correction about Amber Rose, google is saying both but to be fair I'd never double checked - so thank you for the reminder to do so! Antillean Creole is the umbrella term for languages spoken in former French colonies in the Caribbean, with localised variants. The official language is French but that's just used in formal contexts. And you totally have a point distinguishing between ethnicity and language here - in fact that's probably what I was confused over! Thank you :)
When you wrote Black Creoles are you referring to the ones who appear to be Black? I guess I'm a bit confused as to why white Creoles are mentioned unless y'meant how they appear visibly.
13:12 just for context:
Fredo Santana died of kidney failure at 27 in 2018. Non-beef related.
RIP 🕊️
I really wanna hear you guys take on the new Jerrod Carmichael reality show. Sooo much going on there that I haven’t seen anyone talk about. Also that breakfast club interview was something else
I think we all like a coming out story..its a struggle we all identify with on some level. But once you're out and all super gay and shit... Naah, aint nobody wanna see that!!😂
Now your problems are Goin to the Emmys??!! N, What?!!
Also I always knew he was gay, he had no chemistry with Maxine!!
I'm shocked y'all not talking about the drill scene when talking about Rap Beef
Yeahhhh the Chicago/Jacksonville drill scene when it comes to dissing specifically is pure demon time
Wait till he find out bout the dude who got burned alive or the numerous drill rappers getting shot in the face numerous times
same but i think they’re mostly talking about main stream rap. i feel like unless you’re from those places or nyc even if you wanna include that drill, people don’t know that much drill let alone the beef/context behind it all. whether they themselves don’t know or just understand that the large majority probably won’t i think they decided to still go why everyone’s talking about to reach a larger audience. im more offended they didn’t mention megan….
Ok I admit I laughed out loud when Josh called Eddie a psychopath; he really did just argue with himself 😂 I agree with his larger point about framing responsiveness in checking in as high care vs high maintenance; as a woman, I do think I have a tribe of primarily other women I could depend on in case of car accidents, etc., but I also think my expectation of high care/responsiveness is dependent on the closeness of the relationship, not gender. There are friends I’d drive across the city at 9pm for, and there are friends I’d get on a plane at 2am for, regardless of gender; and I guess there is something to Alvin’s point about women being conditioned to think of relationships in terms of labor, but I think I would rather err on the side of neuroticism and too much in my close relationships than not 😂 Hard agree with Alvin’s point that OP was super valid in using the not texting as a criteria to weed dudes out tho, if sis wants different for herself than I support her, that is indeed where Eddie lost me a little 🤣 I do like his larger point tho, even if it took Piccolo v Piccolo style gymnastics to arrive at!!! 😂💜
Statistically and factually "Its a red flag" *Chefs kiss*
As a guy, I agree with what eddy said in the end. That the lady in the video is being a bit od. But the larger point about men being somewhat true.
In my experience men's friendships arent just low maintenance. They are sometimes devoid of real substance. There is no checking in, I don't feel like I could open up to them, I don't feel like they truly care about me. And when I try I get looked at like I'm weird. Like Josh said men arent socialized for that. I've only ever had 1 guy friend that I feel like I could really depend on. Maybe 2.
This isn't to say women's friendships are perfect. I agree with Alvin saying they can be way more laborious and lack boundaries. But being able to show affection without couching it in 10 layers of jokes (if at all) would be nice lol.
Now my experiences are anecdotal. But, I also think there is data to back this up. Especially studies surrounding male socializing and loneliness.
'He'll never get rid of that stain', sir, he has enthusiastically doubled down. He stay beating people up, including recent girlfriends, bouncers, fans, whomever. It's a lifestyle for him
24:42 Mmmmmmm I’m gonna have to go w/ Hiss on this one y’all
Don’t forget Chris brown has done more than assault Rihanna. Karrueche, Usher, Frank ocean, various other women, threw a chair through a window at GMA, tried to fight drake in a club, hit and run charges and more
So, he's not just a women beater. He's an equal opportunity ass whooper. #NoDiddy
4:06 Interview with a Vampire is a fantastic movie!!! Its one of my favourite as well
Personally, I'm here for eddie talking through relationship agurments from both angles. I think about things in a similar way. As someone like that I feel like it comes from a sense of empathy that goes a bit into overdrive in that I start to put myself in everyones shoes and get locked into a cycle of feeling like everyone is super valid but not having a way forward until i suddenly get to my main point when can disagree with all the perspectives I just intrenched myself in.
i dont think female friendships are high maintenance if a girl is high maintenance in general her friendships with men women and others alike will be high maintenance. if you don’t want a high maintenance friendship don’t be friends with someone high maintenance. but i also don’t think male friendships are low maintenance i think it’s just a different kind of maintenance. but also i think typically female friendships are deeper than male friendships. like if your average male friendship is like only text you the occasional meme or to hang out yall link three times a month have a great time then go home mind your business until next time but your average female friendship is text all the time random 5 hour long calls seeing each other less than twice a week must be a punishment from the universe then ofc to a man that’s ode and to a woman men don’t do enough. but in reality all genders have both kinds of friendships (and more in between and outside of those ofc) men who have been socialized to be alone are certainly going to be more inclined to that more shallow kinda of friendship and women that have been socialized to be over dependent will be inclined to the way closer kind. those who heal will have a healthy amount of both and a balance that best suits themselves.
Anybody 25+ shouldn’t be having body conversations… that’s weird
INTERVIEW WITH A VAMPIRE MENTION?!?! I KNEW I LIKED HIM FOR A REASON❤
My problem with the text situation is that she jumped on social media the next day to make a video instead of of call him up or asking him.
But i think she is right. Gotta stay up, make sure she got home safe. I know I did that when I was in a relationship. And maybe that's the difference, they just met and he doesn't care.
Actual shootouts happened in the TIP flip battle.
39:17 that text me when you get back shit is so fake IMO. If she don’t reply what you gone do? Call Liam Neeson and go find her? 😂
the editing so underrated! I didn’t realize that conversation was cut up in the teaser at the beginning
5:50 Alvin never told us how he was.
I may be jumping the gun with this comment, but I hope that these guys come to the conclusion that is pretty obvious to me which is Kendrick is simply trying to out rap people. This isn’t real beef, it’s competition for him. It isn’t street beef. just rap. everything else is beef, real beef. And the disses should be judged from those contexts
Right, that's how it comes across to me. Like he's bored of being the best with no serious challengers. A diss from Kendrick is just him saying "step that pussy up, girls"
So Josh MADE the point, you’re not conditioned and WOMEN figure this out in a rude awakening way in their 20s that’s literally it
29:34 Josh was talking like when raditz warned them about vegeta and Nappa
Only Brocast I watch/listen to.🙌🏾
My brother dated one of Chris Brown's dancers, he had a very unpleasant experience with Mr Brown.
I disagree so much on the friendships part. The friendships I have with other women/ppl are the most incredible beautiful fulfilling and safe relationships I’ve ever had. They literally keep me sane i think i would do as much as I possibly could for them. But I also understand it depends on the level and depth of the friendship. I’m just so obsessed with my friends honestly lol. The give & take is a real thing and I think it’s looks differently depending on the season, proximity, and commitment you have to keeping that person close to you.
It's not unusual for me to go for weeks or even months without getting a text back from my friends...
My favs 🥰
Text the next day because I fell asleep isn’t crazy. I would if texted the next day and apologized for not saying anything back instantly but it’s not that deep.
I think body count is useful to know only in so far as how they explain it. It helps me know how they conceptualize their sex life. Someone saying, 'it's this, and I think that's because I stayed in bad relationships too long and honestly I wish it was higher' (so maybe now they just want fun) or 'it's this, because I had fun in my twenties, and I think I got a lot out of my system' (so maybe looking for marriage now) is useful context. But making assumptions just off the number I think is usually silly.
Eddie’s comment about the body count unit of measurement took me out😂
Regarding the text message thing, her feelings are valid but her conclusions are inaccurate.
I honestly think she should have left the expectation at the door after the fuxx. There are biases. Most men will not take you seriously after a night of scx that was low effort and or no love involved.
It was a “nicety” that he asked her to call him when she got home. I could say so much more. I feel that expectations need to be set internally and individually before any secxal interaction
The getting home safe text thing, in my opinion, depends. Dating as I do it, is a formed exclusive relationship. So the man I’m exclusive with, I expect certain things out off and least of it, getting home safe text. However, dating people do these days is just going out and getting to know one another and I feel I have less expectations when it comes to just getting to know someone. People may have a sexual relationship but not necessarily exclusive relationship and may expect certain things that do come with exclusivity. All in all not too serious if there was no exclusivity but I can see how she may feel used and not looked after.
Body count- first off I'm not asking. But if I was, I think the timeframe could be relevant. Like instead of the total, the # within the last year or the last 5 years says a lot more about how one is moving. Lol as I'm listening they're saying this, so I guess I'm just supporting their stance
He only brought up the hitting women bc Quavo brought it up about up him in Tender when Quavo had an incident himself. Of course not as severe as Rihanna.
I know when y'all say "everyone", you're probably talking about the US, but Chris Brown used to be huge here in 🇧🇷Brazil, and I feel that here, there are more people that know him than know he hit Rihanna. I'm talking from my point of view, so I could be wrong, tho.
BTW, I love the podcast, shout out from Brazil🇧🇷
I feel like female friendships are less platonic than male friendship in general, just because as a society, women have been able to be more fluid with their sexuality. That's why they seem more high maintenance, because low key they're dating their friends. In my opinion its why when their friendships end, it looks like a couple breaking up rather than friends having a disagreement. It's also why I think women love saying men are "gay" for their homeboys.
I check on whether she’s home or not because she was with me and if something happens to her after she’s with me I will need something to prove that she was a felt safe in my company. Has nothing to do with me caring about her 😅
Creole is like if you're Cajun as fuck but your heritage is like gumbo you put all the shit in there. Everyone's poor and related to one another in Louisiana so you know it is what it is.
So with the “text when you make it home” thing. Maybe he read it but didn’t respond until the next morning because that’s what I typically do.
Rihanna is not Chris browns only victim
Yeah, but the point apparently is a vulnerable target of attack in a diss song. Kinda goofy to clown Chris for beating up dudes.
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Nah ya’ll should’ve got into the nuance of Chris’s situation.
Didn’t frank ocean and Chris brown fight and ocean won LOL
My take on the whole "he didn't check in that night" thing: I find the initial video unobjectionable. She does a good job of expressing and acknowledging her emotions without being consumed by them. The only mistake I think she makes is in asking random strangers on the Internet what they think. There's naught but pain and more confusion down that road...
As for the Twitter response...I think the user has had a lot of very painful and traumatic experiences with men, and that is coloring her perception of this event. I'd point out that she said it's an example of men not caring about women when he literally did show that he cared, just later than he person making the video would have liked.
Eddie - “Chris Brown disrespected a dead man”
Also Eddie listening to Drake use dead Tupac ai “that was fire”
This was kinda my thing 😂. Imo it is kinda lame and heavily disrespectful.
It just doesn't sit right in my spirit to use a dead artist voice to say whatever you want. Hell even him using snoops voice rubs me wrong.
I remember there were rumors about Pac being raped in jail. Which, Pac put to rest. But, I don't remember any rappers dissing him over the rape thing.
The toung ain't supposed be that color chris
Women have every right too assume men to give a shit about their well being, but this is not a valid thing to use to say men at large or a specific man doesn't care about you. I can't call the police and say "hey they didnt text me after i got home can you find them for me? It's been 5 hours and it's currently 7 am" like no if i don't hear from you at all the next day I'm hitting you with the "you alive?" And if not I'm checking to see if you're actually alive and then calling the police. I care about my wife but if she's driving away from me for the night jesus take the wheel I'll check your pulse tomorrow because its out of my hands
This episode didn't age well. lol.
Drake's track is the most invalid shit ever in hip hop
She is being unreasonable. Maybe just ask buddy for context without being accusatory or implying intention to the natural phenomenon of going to sleep, especially after sex. It only happened once right? Ask for context and let that shit go, lady 😂.
I don't have the energy to really bug people with courtesy texts/calls after a long day in which we shared an outing experience. If I do that a precedent was already established. I consider it pestering though. In a scenario where I'm dating someone and we just did the deed, I have no problem with her staying over after the workout.
She got emotional it seems cause they smashed...
Chris beat the shit out of Rihanna and several other women since.
You guys are being silly. A good rap battle, should be about out-rapping one another. Not about digging personal shit.
nah… the winner is chosen by the audience. Drake learned this in the Pusha beef. Pusha made him take care of his own son.
No rap battle has come down who's "outrapping" the other guy...in a while. Personal jabs and jokes have been the reason rappers "win" battles...
@@idolgray that why I said *should, be about out-rapping. Drake and Kendrick are doing that.. and these nggas is complaining.
@@idolgray it’s why I said *should be… and these guys are complaining that Kendrick and drake are doing it right.
That's the point rap battle and beef aren't interchangeable and this is being treated as beef with personal disses