The Atheist Experience 769 with Russell Glasser and Jeff Dee
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- The Atheist Experience 769 for July 8, 2012 with Russell Glasser and Jeff Dee.
SHOW TIME-STAMPS
00:46- Intro & Announcements - Russell Glasser
02:11- Jeff Dee on his mohawk
03:09- Matt (theist from the previous episode): if young-earth creationism is true, then humans and dinosaurs should have coexisted, stone etchings of humans with dinosaurs on CreationWiki.org
10:14- Corey: doesn't care about Jeff Dee's opinion
10:44- Jacob: (theist, supposedly the first caller's brother) the Earth's roundness proves the Bible is true
15:56- Danny: fictional religions created for movies, revisiting the 'Hell House'
21:57- Anna: Valerie Hodges dropping support for vouchers for religious schools
25:45- Emmanuel (theist): faith in scientific claims, numerous holy books support religious claims, it is not unreasonable that the supernatural events in religious texts are true, evidence for the natural beginning of the universe
48:38- Dan (atheist): debated Sye Ten Bruggencate, presuppositionalist sleight of hand
55:34- Bobby (theist from episode 757, 758 and 760): scientists having faith they would find the God Particle
You can read more about this episode on the Atheist Experience blog:
► freethoughtblogs.com/axp/2012/...
The post-show segment with the rest of Bobby's call is available on Ustream.tv:
► www.ustream.tv/recorded/238643...
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"You're going to hell."--Classic response when their arguments fizzle.
Jeff Dee is so ridiculously entertaining, my sides can't take it!
Really wish he'd be on more often..
Jeff is such a trooper for offering to cut his hair for an event no-one had ever heard of. I was one of the hosts of the original TWL charity drive, and I gotta hand it to you Jeff, mad kudos...and balls for that matter. Also, shout-out to zulufightrunner for managing the event.
"Got anything else?"
Jacob from Oslo: "You're going to hell"
I lol'd
You all prolly dont give a shit but does anybody know a tool to get back into an Instagram account?
I was stupid forgot my login password. I appreciate any tricks you can give me!
@Coen Kaden instablaster :)
From my experience Norway is massively polarized between the utterly brilliant and the utterly insane.
Its amazing how often those traits intertwine
They're not even Norwegians. I am Norwegian myself and I can hear their Swedish accents from miles away.
jeff has a mohawk and russell has an inverted mohawk XD
lol!
+sabin97 Russell's inverted mohawk: a NoHawk? LowHawk? FauxHawk?
It is called the culdasac
Gotta love the last caller. Disses couple of guys for making him look stupid, and then says something incredibly stupid.
I love the giggles and laughter in the back ground...HAHA
Damn I had to wait 48 minutes for Jeff to start losing his shit lol.
this is the best atheist channel (show?!) i have ever seen! i have deep respect that you manage to remain calm and keep giving proper responses. it both entertains and educates me, all i have to say now is : thanks xD
"It's better than no evidence."
Nope, it's still no evidence. :p
Jeff provides a great response to the, "Since you don't know everything, you should give up on knowing anything" argument.
Kudos!
"I'm reading this off a site,"
"Ok. What site is it?"
"Why is that relevant?"
BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE YOU ARE GETTING THIS INFORMATION! (facepalm) Also, this after whining about information from Wikipedia, when HE sent them a link from Wikipedia; a link to a page that he didn't even read the entire contents of!
I can understand why Dillahunty just doesn't believe some of these people are serious, but I also think he underestimates just how stupid members of our race really are.
If it's an argument then it can stand or fall on its own merit, independent of the source...
@@Edwin-wn7wd If the premises of the argument contain information form a source, and the source is how you determine the reliability of the information, then the source matters...
@@cloudoftime I agree, It's just that relevancy can't be assumed in all cases. Although, as it relates to this video, it does. I replied before getting to it tho so I was speaking generally.
@@cloudoftime You're right & I'm not wrong
@@Edwin-wn7wd Ok...
Two of the best hosts, ever.
It's amazing how all logic just bounces off.
It's fascinating.
"do you have anything else?" - "yeah youre going to hell.." xDDDD lmao
You are not alone my friend!
Matt of Oslo is one crazy man
For what it is worth, Dan at 48:38 is Dan Courtney, an atheist who has a channel on here with some of his debates. It is worth subscribing to him.
Emmanuel's understanding of how old texts are evaluated made my historian heart sad.
What a perfect combination, and even the hair is oddly balanced! Jeff with his Mohawk and Russell with his balding head. I love both of these guys, Jeff Dee for his total imperturbableness and Russell for his well known tendency to eat children:D
BEST SHOW EVER!!!
The caller Jacob does not understand that Eratosthenes, a Greek, discovered that the world was a sphere and that he calculated its circumference to within 70km, more than 200 years before Jesus was born - so his claims about Christianity announcing that the world was "round" are nonsense - why would Russell and Jeff "burn in hell" for simply believing the truth of known science, proclaimed more than 200 years before Jesus was born? Read a book, Jacob , please
That tends to happen when the arguments cease to be new and you've heard them defeated again and again, and yet they still keep going.
The first caller from Norway (Matt) was referring to the Ica stones, supposedly found in the Ica Valley of Peru in the 1960s. Dr. Javier Cabrera began collecting the stones ‘found’ by a farmer named Basilio Uschuya, who claimed they were real ancient artifacts but later admitted to creating them himself.
Matt has got to be an undercover atheist calling in to make theists look bad. The sighing is fucking hilarious btw.
You deserved applause for that episode.
The Oslo dues were trolling, Jacob's reaction to hearing Matt had just been on tells it all.
you're right, thanks for pointing that out to me :), it changes the whole meaning of the paragraph, I got confused cuz of the seperation between the lines.
wow. I thought NOrway had mostly smart people. that basking shark example must be like 10 years old by now.
Almost 20 years now😅
7:33 "ooooh Wikipedia, man, cmon!", few minutes later quotes CreationWiki....
Awesome episode.
Clicked just for Jeff;s hair. not even how much I like his and Russells chemistry although it is great how perfect they compliment each other
Holy crap. Why did I not know about tv tropes before this?
I had a friend in college that was Norwegian. I love how blunt and honest they are. He was confused at first why people thought he was so funny when he wasn't trying. It's just their demeanor. If there are any fellow F1 fans out there, you know what I mean. It's exactly why we love Kimi and Mika.
Also, awesome episode.
At least he was honest. He sounded so defeated.
Jeff with his Mohawk....... ah, THOSE were the days.
Jeff, the haircut makes you look younger. It is wild! You are a good sport.
One nut after another. Pure comedy!
Haven't noticed that, will pay attention next time.
haha, great show!
To the dude that thinks a circle is a sphere in the Bible. The Bible painstaking describes a flat earth cosmology through and through.
“When he prepared the heavens, I was there: when he set a compass upon the face of the depth:” (Proverbs 8:27)
When I was in grade school we made circles on flat paper with compasses. Not spheres.
I’m very brief here but read the surrounding context and compare it with Genesis 1. The Bible wasn’t inspired by an omnipotent creator god. It was written by dudes that thought the earth was a flat disc etched out of “the deep” and submerged with a dome holding back the waters, much how one might do with an upside down cup in a bathtub.
Laters.
Nice Moehawk, Jeff! I am a big fan of the show and was wondering...do you guys have a live chat room during your show? When do you guys film the live show?
Jeff wields "the swords of a thousand men" for his great haircut - prize of deep reverence for an explanation of the reference
If you saw a report about a guy who had kidnapped and tortured 10 people in his basement--and you're gleeful about it, and you root for the guy, and you laugh at his victims--what would that make you? A psychopath, devoid of humanity, right?
Think of the millions of Christians in the world who gleefully relish the thought that TWO-THIRDS of their fellow human beings are being tortured by Jesus. They love and root for this guy, while hating his victims. Think about that.
The creepy thing is that it's billion of christians, not millions.
The look on Jeff's face, priceless..haha
Shannon Russo he has the best expressions
Jeff looks like a gremlin here.
The mohawk is actually pretty awesome :O
Emmanuel's segment became far more complicated than it should have.
That's nice to hear, I was at a checkout recently and this woman started telling me completely out of the blue about how her 16 year old daughter would be competely unable to cook for herself. I mean, I don't think the average 16 year old is necessarily a genius but I do think ( as long as they weren't in the wilderness ) they could manage to feed themselves.
I love how bad Jeff beat the crap out of Emmanuel every time he tried to get away with saying "we don't know anything about the universe." I hate that crap so damn much. The argument from ignorance is the worst.
"Never interrupt your enemy when he is making a mistake." - said Napoleon Bonaparte. They are doing exactly that with Emanuel, while he wants to say loudly: "cause we don't know what the universe exactly is, therefore our invisible friend here made it".
Jeff looks great with a mohawk!
I figure he goes full spike egg-white 1981 sometimes. I know I do.
Angus Davies 😂😂😂 he would look great in a black trench coat.
You should upload the calls that happen after the credits on youtube... Is there anyway to watch the after calls?
Great riddle here (for theists to ponder and atheists to challenge theists with):
CAN GOD CREATE A ROCK THAT IS TOO HEAVY FOR HIM TO LIFT?
If the answer is "YES" then he is not all powerful because he cannot lift it.
If the answer is "NO" then he is not all powerful because he cannot create it.
It is an old riddle... and my response is Who Cares. How many angels can dance on the head of a pin? Same answer.. who cares
Suzey Non Theist Hee he!
Is someting wrong with this...
Love Jeff's crazy hair!
Love the hair :D
The Bible said the Earth was a circle, because if it said the Earth was square, then it'd be just ridiculous...
Square? Maybe not, but certainly a quadrilateral!
Revelations 7;1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on the four corners of the earth,
Then the ridiculousness of the Bible is now official!
JC Darwin Where did the phrase "four corners of the earth" originate from anyway?
The bible also said that the earth has 4 corners. It also said a snake talked and other retarded things. And it also leaves out things such as atoms and cells. It's a book of bullshit. you are right.
See you in facebook? What was that? hahahah
PanikOne10 must bother him on there
its worth it Jeff
lmao at the first caller - -"Wikipedia? Cmon ...man" , "What is your source?" "Its Wikipedia"...
Wikipedia is good for finding sources in the references section, not as a source itself.
I just sum it up as "I don't know, therefore I know"
Oslo sounds like a fun place to live!
seems like the wacky creatards were out in force this week! XD
Thanks Emmanuel, you gave me a headache.
Aside your wheels spinning all the rubber into smoke, you made a perfect circle with nothing but thin air.
Jeff sorta reminds me of Glenn Danzig and any other og MISFITS members whom cultivated the "devil lock" hairdo.
I thought Norway had a great educational system . Clearly it passed right over Matt from Oslo , poor guy .
Jeff's hair is awesome! I would have expected someone to give money to have it.
Scientists agree less than 5% of stars are made out of cream cheese.
If we found a book about Nero today with new information we would say "New information has come to light that Nero MAY HAVE....."
That bit on the Nero thing reminds me of the stories about the way Edward II died. Only one guy wrote firsthand about the poker thing. No-one else who was actually around at that time wrote about it and it's so weird. They failed at suffocation first and then tried the poker and all the people who lived nearby heard the screams but no-one else wrote about that. Seems unlikely.
Currently sporting a similar haircut to Jeff, I approve.
You guys should make your screen graphics a little more vibrant, I'd help the videos.
hahahah xD Jeg Tenkte først at det var trivelig at noen fra Norge ringte inn. Etter et minutt inn i samtalen banka jeg hodet i veggen... facepalm.
I hope that request applies to all of his relatives.
hahahahahah that guy from norway sank his own battleship hard.10:00 is a fucking riot
haha whoa nice to meet you dude. you didn't do a bad job. keep trying, call in again
I usually immediately skip videos that have comments and/or rating sections disabled.
Love the mohawk Jeff!!!!
As I understand it, it was part of some public access policy instituted. This stated in episode 760, where Russel mentions that they can no longer namedrop their sponsor. I assume the reminders of their after-show eat and meet got truncated as part of the same policy.
Emanuel's rant was the longest and broadest argument from ignorance I've ever heard.
Awesome comment
If Jeff gets the bit in the middle sorted out he'll have the "regulation" haircut.
I have a core issue with debating theist claims in a formal setting. What do they bring to the discussion that I need to address with anything besides, "go ahead and demonstrate that"?
Presups are the worst. Doubletalk, their stock in trade, is nothing but a piss-off.
Let me quote the great CZcams philosophist ThePositiveAussie: "the first mammals evolving from Therapsids"
Fair enough. I retract my previous statement.
Jeff' haircut made me laugh ^^ I love this guy :D
Why did you guys disable the comments on your more recent uploads? o.O
Because CZcams comments are cancer.
One of the best episodes, they destroyed the phone caller's arguments and even anticipated a few. I love how they knew the caller was using the creation wikipedia. Was someone with a new hair cut? didn't notice anything different! Was it Russell?
Love the new hair style for Jeff. Let alone, the sarcasm & logic he gives to the guy over the pond. Dinos & humans living together...again. Betcha his favorite bible story is Noah's eh.
I still can't stop laughing at the Oslo Brothers.
Everyone remembers the story of Kane, Abel and Steve
'And Lo, Steve was eaten by a 20 foot high reptile with teeth as long as your arm'
Once when I was in KY I was approached at a public event by a preacher trying to give me some religious pamphlet. I just looked him in the eye and said I reject the holy ghost. I figured that he would realize I was irredeemable and leave me alone. Instead, his shock and anger made me fear for my safety. I realized then that you can always depends on those with faith to be christian but not christ-like
Jeff is a hero for sacrificing his hair xD
You guys are good sports, Love the hair, lol
I can't believe how old a troll Corey is
The Wizard in OZ is god. Toto is Dorothy's skeptical subconscious realizing that OZ is created by a frightened little priest, projecting a fearful figure to control the masses. Also, following the yellow brick road is a religious pilgrimage seeking things that the travelers believe they can get from OZ, only to find that they don't need this god, and that they have the power to do it themselves. I laughed when I heard a xtain show praising the Wizard of OZ as a family friendly movie.
Jeff's hair is awesome! Lol it suits him.
Noticed how Jacob and Matt both have Swedish accents? Jacob's accent is more pronounced than Matt's, but they are clearly Swedish.
According to classic taxonomy, yes, hawk is a bird, and dinosaur is a reptile. But I personally don't consider changes between dinosaurs and birds essential enough to consider them to be a different taxon. That might have made classification confusing, if it weren't for cladistics.