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What about simulation speed in SC2, Victoria 3 &etc. Action games don't the best test for CPU

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YO! I play doom eternal on 1440p with 12700k and 3080 rog strix, I play on 250 fps cuz that game basically allows you to do things u normally could not do on 144/165 fps or less. My gpu stays on 70-80 percent cuz I play with dlss ON (performance mode) but my cpu stays on 65-70 % sometimes, it is normally on 40-50% but I play with tons of mods and there are so many demons and action on the screen that my cpu reaches 70% usage sometimes, would you say this is a cpu bottleneck?

I did the same upgrade last year and it was totally worth it, especially if u do some occasional streaming like I do.

Yeah but can you run crysis?

I'm torn, I want to wait but my 8600k is really not cutting it anymore and the release date of 9000 series coincides perfectly with when I can buy new parts

Raytracing in Most games is just shadows and SOME Extra Reflections and lighting. and it's minor. Also, Modern Game's Fidelity does NOT justify the GPU Requirements. Starfield Looks like TOTAL ASS. 1440P RTX 4080 SUPER $1000 Card 90fps and ghetto Fidelity.

Such a massive nostalgia trip. My dad was always a bit of a tech geek but we weren't minted. I remember persuading him to buy me a 6800 GT in the end, after trying and failing to negotiate a 6800 Ultra out of him. Also remember spending hours and hours on the Nalu, Timbury, and Clear Sailing demos. The Nalu demo was especially insane, couldn't believe it was running on my PC! Ah... those were the days.... I could go on for hours.

If you're getting more or less the same performance for significantly less power then I'd call that a win, no? Also as you say, the 0.1% lows were much better in a lot of your tests, which is arguably more important than getting an extra 10-20fps (especially when you're already well over 100fps!). That translates to fewer "stutters" and thus a smoother gameplay experience overall.

My 5600X3D/6700XT build beats a 5600X/4090 build in some games at the same settings. It's 4-5 fps slower than a 5800X/4090 build in Shadow of the Tomb Raider at 1080p medium, 222 vs 218 fps. No regrets at all.

I needed to see this video. Now I can sleep in peace knowing I can save money on the 5800x3D even when the price on the secondhand market is reasonable.

this guy is perfect on time, im a lil late

Bionik?

I have a 4090 paired with the 5800x3d. I think it is fantastic combo. I can play anything at max settings native resolution of 1440p on an 34 inch ultra wide monitor, with zero upscaling. I capped my FPS at the monitor’s max refresh rate of 144hz. The only game I have to use upscaling is Cyberpunk. With that game, and full path tracing enabled, I peg the 144hz cap all day long. The 5800x3d is a very capable CPU, paired with the 4090.

I switched from 5600 to 5800X3D only after purchasing the 7900 XTX. I'm playing in 4K and I can see that the CPU change was not as necessary as I thought

I really want to upgrade but game at 4k, I dont think Ill notice a difference based on what i've seen / read :(

The 5800x3dcis bottlenecking too in 1080p and 1440p with a 4080s

while I don't have the 4080 super, I do have the cpu ryzen 5 5600x with gpu being rx 7800 XT and just trying to wrap my head around if I want to upgrade just because of the gpu to get more fps

I went from a 5600x w/ a 6700XT to a 5900x and noticed next to no improvement in the FPS drops I would get in BF4. I then bought a 6900XT better but still these dips. Wasn't till I found a open box 5800X3D that I noticed a good improvement in my 1% lows. I then sold it a few weeks later for an excellent combo price and bought a 7600X/X670 combo for the same price.

Thx for competitive settings. Include please valorant in next videos.

This guy does not know that his graphics card is bottlenecked in most of the games

I am cursed (blessed?) with framerate, resolution, and ray tracing blindness. I have a 2k 144hz monitor, a 4k 60hz monitor, and a system powerful enough to max out both. But if I'm honest I can't tell the difference between 2k, 4k, 60, or 144 fps or raytracing either for that matter. I can tell the difference between 1080p and 1440 but that's about it. Or maybe I just need glasses.

EA WRC 1440p max settings = 65fps. 80fps with "car reflections" set to low. 150 fps with absolute minimum settings and DLSS ultra performance. Even WRC 10 i have to turn down graphics to get 200 fps (which seems to be the cap in this game). I got something like 380 fps average in Assetto Corsa benchmark (max settings), and in Assetto Corsa Competizione i get between 200 and 240 fps without DLSS and otherwise pretty good (not ultra) settings.

It’s not pointless. Why would it be pointless when it takes advantage of a 1440p 240hz display. Plus there are ppl out there that want to play with ray tracing at 1440p over 100fps in triple a games.

My friend build my PC 3 Months ago 5800X3D & 7800 XT HellHound so happy with it on Warzone 200-250 fps on 1440p : )

i have an i7-9770k and a 2070 so it runs okay and i like playing. 40-60 frames.

Just try to play flawless BF2042 or COD MW3 at 2k high preset with DLSS😂 with 5600X and 4070 Super,let alone 4070 Ti/4080 Super cards... You will get mostly 70-75 % GPU usage,so if that's not cpu bottleneck...😅 5700X undervolted at 4800-4900 mhz core will do wonders in comparison with only hexacord 5600X that becomes obsolete in heavy cpu multiplayer games.

Hello, I have a 5600X + 1070. I want to upgrade to the 7900XT. Will I find a bottleneck with the 5600X? At a display resolution of 1440

Hello, I have a 5600X + 1070. I want to upgrade to the 7900XT. Will I find a bottleneck with the 5600X? At a display resolution of 1440

I have the RTX 4060 How would it fare with the 5600x? Also would you recommend the 5700x3d with 4060 or the 5600x is just fine?

Just building a new system got two 32gb sticks for this new PC 👍

How about 24GB RAM configurations for gaming, editing, and streaming with a bunch of apps/software/stuff in the background running in the same time?

can someone explain to me how you're getting 156 average FPS on Warzone 3 with the extreme preset at 1440p but I'm dropping to like 30-40 fps

It’s not just the cpu unreal 5 engine puts a big load on gpu now.

does a 5600x bottleneck a 3080?

you need at least an RTX 3080, 4070 or RX6800XT to get the advantage from the X3D chip

Danke, genau mein System und mein Gedanke. 3070OC mit 5600x. Aus meiner Sicht lohnt sich der Umstieg nicht.

Star field needs to be taken off benchmarks since it’s such a poor engine to allocate power to either cpu or gpu; its the engine being the bottleneck or limiter when it has poor utilization all around

It's funny that Nvidia change the name of their lineup from GTX to RTX because of "hardware RT" support, and yet you still need beefy CPU for "playable" RT rendering (without DLSS). This tells me that RTX cards or the built in hardware for RT functionality, is really of a RT "assist" because if it was full RT processing, you shouldn't need a decent CPU. Remember the MPEG 2 days, when you needed an addon card to play DVD, and you only needed a Pentium 200mmx to play DVD with the addon card. That's true hardware add on right there.

I decided to go with 64 GB :-)

no it cant.....get a real fucking job and stop posting useless content

Hey man, I’m really confused whether to get one of two different laptops. I will list the specs below and I’d really appreciate it if you can give me your opinion on which I should get: Zephyrus g14: 14” display. OLED 3K 120 Hz Ryzen 9 8945HS 32 GB RAM GeForce RTX 4070 1 TB SSD Zephyrus G16: 16” display. OLED 2.5K 240 Hz Intel Core Ultra 9 16 GB RAM GeForce RTX 4070 1 TB SSD Please keep in mind that the ram in these laptops is soldered in so I don’t have the option to upgrade it later on. What I really want is the G16. I really want the larger display (since it’ll be the only display I’ll have) and the dark grey color it comes in (unlike the g14 which only comes in a white color). It also has a higher refresh rate, and a better CPU. Everything about it is better…except for the ram. I’m worried that I’ll face problems with the RAM in the long run since I’m planning on keeping this laptop for atleast 5 years. I’m getting this for some gaming (mainly games such as COD, GTA, and some others) in addition to school work (which won’t be demanding). I like everything about the G16 more except for obviously the ram. Do you think this difference in ram is worth me choosing the g14 instead?

I don't buy top end GPU's, haven't since the 980Ti. That cost me £580 (trade price, I got a deal) and just five months later, Nvidias website said that they no longer optmize for my card beyond "critical fixes and updates". So I gave up on Nvidia AND on buying top end GPU's. I currently have a Ryzen 2600 and a 5700XT. After a lot of benchmark reading etc, settled on an upgrade path of a 7800XT and a 5600X3D or 5700X3D. I play at 1440p on a 42" LG OLED TV and I mostly play older games. Newer games I can drop to 1080p on the 5700XT, but I don't see a problem there with a 7800XT. I upgrade economically, best value I can find for what I need.

In theory, and in numbers, it doesnt make a lot of diference, but in real world feeling it does make a diference going 8 cores with a lot of cache (5700x3d, 5800x3d). I can say this because i've upgraded from a 5600 to a 5700x3d due to a second-hand deal, and i'm realy happy. Cyberpunk is night and day, the last of us aswell. Not sure if it's the extra 2cores/4threads or the extra cache, but i'm realy happy with my € 70 extra investment (from selling one and buying other second hand).

RAM is not just quantity. It's a mix between the CPU cache quantity, the quantity of ram, the type of memory (DDR3, DDR4, DDR5) and platform, and speed timmings of it. I've noticed a few games that were having some slight micro stutterings with 16GB DDR4 3600mhz CL18, and my 5600x, but when i got my 5700x3d with more cache (and my memory finaly works at CL16-16-16), that stuttering is all gone in all games i've tested. So it's not just quantity... for example if you go from a 16gb 3600CL16-16-16 to a 32gb 18-19-19 with a 5600x, you are probably having less performance, not an upgrade...

Msi afterburner?

currently using it at 1080p, saving to get a great 4k monitor

I upgraded to latest and greatest for years!!.now i dont care online gaming which i loved met friends ect over the years.now its kids cheating using china cheats.doesnt make me care anymore.its sad

Now the question is, does the cache provide more FPS or the 2 cores?

Good to know I probably don't need to upgrade my CPU. Did you use the same CPU cooler for both tests?