The 4070 Ti SUPER Looks AWESOME!
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- čas přidán 22. 07. 2024
- In this video we break down the Nvidia 40 series super refresh and discuss why the 4070 Ti Super may be the card to watch out for (despite it’s potentially silly sounding name). We look back on the original 4070 and 4070 Ti and take a look to see how the Nvidia 40 series super refresh, if the rumours are true, could go a long way to making a far superior card.
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00:00 - Introduction
00:24 - A Look Back on the 4070 and 4070 Ti
02:03 - 40 Series Super Refresh
02:25 - 4070 Super
02:49 - 4080 Super
03:41 - 4070 Ti Super - The One To Watch!
05:00 - Closing Thoughts
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So the 4070TI Super will be just as fast as an 4080 for a lower price.. making the 4080 more useless then it already was
lol, yeah it’s going to be close. That 4080 stunk!
4080 may be replaced by the 4080 super. We have to wait a bit more, to get all Infos.
Bro, you forgot there is RTX 4080 Super
not true. it has significantly fewer cores
@@davidnott_does the 4070ti super use 2x8 pin or 3x8 pin. My power supply only has dual 6 plus 2.
+15% performance means +30% price. Sincerelly, your nGreedia
lol I sincerely hope not! 😅
@@davidnott_ Me too, i have GTX 1080 ti, to be honest it is still beast and will probably run "fine" for at least next 2 years, but lowering quality in new games to medium is just not my cup of coffee. Also i am wondering how low it can be undervolted. 1080 ti is running at 140W when performance lowered by 5% aproximatelly (in most of games it means 130 vs 125 FPS, or 65 vs 62 FPS so hardly noticeable). 4080 can run as low as 220W so when i do "hard math" (320 - 285 = 35; 220 - 35) then it should go down to 185W when hitting sweet spot of 4070 ti Super. What do you think about that?
incorrect, they lowered the price, u pleb
Currently running a 1080, needed the upgrade for a while and a 4080 is just too much for what it gives.
Yep, you’re right about that! Interested to see what they do with pricing for the 4080 Super, but I wouldn’t expect miracles. The 4070ti Super rumoured to be sharing the same memory bus config as the 4080 is music to my ears!
I am in the same boat, have a new i7-14700k config, had to put temporarily my old trustworthy 1080 in it. Wanted to get an used 4090, but with the recent price hike it is not worth it - they are priced the same as their original retail price, but used, so I will wait for the refresh series and see from there. Most probably I will get temporarily an used 3090 if their prices drop after the refresh reveal until the used 4090 prices stabilize OR I might get a used 4070ti after the refresh releases or if the 4070ti Super prices are good (which I doubt), I might just buy a new one, but tbh In my 20 yrs of PC experience I have bought a new GPU only once, because the prices drop so quickly. This will be especially the case now, if the rumors of NVIDIA 50 series release later in 2024 turn out to be true.
@@vanda477 I brought a RTX 3090 for $600 dollars last year. Hopefully you'll find a better deal than that soon. Crazy how well the 1080 still holds today.
thanks for the video and the explanation David. Can I ask what cpu/gpu combo you are running at the minute?
Good point! I should have mentioned that! I’m currently running a 5600x/3070. The next question for me is, what cpu do I pair with a 4070 Ti Super…
@@davidnott_ i7-12700kf. Close to same performance as 13 and 14th with WAY LESS power draw and heat
The big question mark for me is how much the memory bandwidth actually influences real world gaming performance and not data crunching applications. derbau8er tried overclocking the 4070 Ti's VRAM to increase bandwidth and got very little returns. Ti Super has 10% more cores, which means
my thoughts exactly. I was contemplating a 4070ti but since it was slightly slower than a 3090ti which already had difficulty holding 60 with cyberpunk path tracing i held off. good thing too. If the perf bump is true that its almost as good as a 4080 then this card should be able to do what i need. Planning on upgrading from 3060ti to 4070ti super to play cbpk2077 at ultrawide 1440p path traced. hopefully it hits 60fps consistently. then plannjng on using dlss fg to get that nice hrr experience, and also wanting to get a 3M hdmi2.1 to plug my LG C1 into my pc to play 4k vrr hrr from the comfort of my bed
@@zarozabuno but most models would launch at the same time if not a few days apart. sometimes high end water cooled ones come later but most models would launch at the same time.
I got 3060ti too, ya ima get 4070 ti super too
@@nttinvis3060ti just wasnt it. I built my pc this summer and when buying a gpu i initially wanted a 3070 vision for my white build but couldn't find one in stock due to shortages but i found the 3060ti. reviews said it performed close to a 3070 when OC'd which would make it almost as good as a 2080ti. But it feels like my gpu became obsolete so quickly. Things like cyberpunk run at 40fps with rt and thats with using dlls balanced. mainly i think its because i built my pc right before the wave of new UE5 games which are all really demanding. so now i gotta upgrade my pc already. was hoping to wait for 50 series but rumors say thats either late 2024 or Q1 2025 and i just cant wait that long so imma just wait a few weeks for the 4070ti super and cop and aero version of it for my white build
@@zarozabu well nvidia said theyre ready to drop it as early as q4 2024. when they actually decide to do so is anyones guess
@@zarozabu pretty sure there were rumours they had the blackwell chips ready to release not as 50 but 40 series probably 4090ti incase the xtx was faster. as like a last resort kinda thing
Just bought a white Taichi 7900 XTX for $600 AUD less than a 4080 and couldn't be happier!
Nice! Hope you enjoy 😊
Im currently using i7-11700F with 3060 ti and planning to upgrade to 4070 ti super do you think there will be bottleneck for 4k and will psu 650 work fine?
You’re more likely to be GPU bottlenecked at 4K, though it may vary by game. I do a lot of flight simming (I have a whole other channel dedicated to it) and it is notoriously CPU limited, even at 4K. I suspect Nvidia will recommend a 750w PSU.
I agree with you. do you think that it would be a good upgrade over a 7800 xt which has the same amount of vram (and of course I am talking about rasterisation only)
Depends what your goal is. If the 7800xt achieves your goal, save your pennies.
@@davidnott_ Thats why I want to know if there will be a big gap in performance between the 7800 xt and the coming 4070 ti super (in qhd+ resolutions -> 4k or ultrawide qhd or standard qhd)
I'm currently on a Ryzen 2600 and a RTX 2060, I've been waiting for a good release and maybe this card will be my next upgrade along a 7800x3d, which would require a whole update from my RAM and the motherboard, yet i hope this configuration will last me at least 4-5 years playing in my 2k monitor, the other option is the 7800XT, which offers a great performance for the price, will see the prices first before making a decision
7800XT is a good choice, if you prefer to play native, without heavy RT/path tracing or upscaling.
i want to upgrade from a 2070 super should i wait 10 months or so for the 50 series or upgrade now? please help lol
The age old question! I guess I would ask yourself: whats the goal? And then ask, does the current gen stuff achieve that goal?
Fall 2025 for RTX 50. You got 30months at least
need help from everyone if possible this is my first pc i already bought a 7800xt, my question now is would it be worth it to return the 7800xt and go for the 4070ti super, i do want 16gb+ and i do want my pc to be used for productivity, such as graphic design, 3d modeling and coding, as well as gaming. I know this is a lot but i need help lol❤
Your 7800xt will last you a long time. Ray tracing is a niche and realistically, isn't ready for prime time. Your card will last you just fine till the RTX 60 series. 4k gaming is overrated on monitors
For 4070 ti super shall i go for 4k or stay with 1440p?
If you want frames, I’d stick with 1440p. The 4070ti super will be awesome at 1440p
I sold my Gigabyte Gaming OC RTX 4070 on eBay just before the 40 Series Super announcement for $600, I paid $650 for it on launch day. I had also sold my Gigabyte Gaming OC RTX 3080 12gb 2 weeks before the 4070 launched for $850. I had only paid $730 for that. I plan to buy the 4070ti Super on launch day. I will stick with that for a few years though. I wasn't happy with my 3080 12gb because it turned my PC into a space heater and my 4070 is nice but the vram limitation is a turn off.
Anyone know when they will announce these cards?
Tuesday 8th
they already did
If the super version of the 4070ti stays the same price (being 799$) or lower, I’m definitely snagging it with the new build I’m working on, especially with those rumored specs and Nvidia features
If not, well AMD all the way i guess
@datamato
yup confirmed 799$
Which processor would you recommend to pair with The 4070ti super?
@@pablopedrerogarcia1755 7800X3D, 7700x if you dont care about V-cache
Intel i would go for a 13600k or 13700k, or a 12th gen I7
I'm upgrading from an i7 3770 with 16 GB ram and a GeForce 8800 GTS to a Pentium 2 slot socket with 198 amB ram and ati Rago Pro 128
If the 4080S is about 999 is should be upgrading my 2060 so i can get the full benefit of my 1440p 144HZ monitor.
Fingers crossed i've been waiting for a while to upgrade. It should be my xmas and birthday present of 2023 !
Mine broke the 1st day I used it, the seller gave me a 4080Ti Super instead and I only paid $50 extra.
I can now play Minesweeper @ 480P 20 FPS.
Thank you nVidia, you did it!!
I'll take "Stories that were fake" for $100, Alex
@@micahroberts3564 yoar fase is fake.
I am on a 2070, gaming and content creating. 4060ti 16 GB lacks computing power. 4070 12 GB for 550$ would be ok, but not perfect, as I need as much VRam as possible. 4080 is above my limit. 4070 ti super would indeed be a sweat spot here. I'll wait for the pricing. If the 4070 ti super is around the same price as the 4070 ti, its a deal. If not, I'll wait for the 5070. I am sure, the 5070 base models will have 16 GB Vram.
It’s like you’re living in my head!
It would be a shame if Nvidia failed (again) to place a must-buy value GPU. Right now I don't really feel excited for these cards. I hope Intel will price Battlemage very agressive to mix up the whole market. I'd seriously consider switching to Intel at this point. The A750 offers great value, but is slightly below the total power I'm looking for. Too bad they never released the A780. That might have been the sweet spot for me last year. ;)
Drivers would be my only concern with Intel. But I’d welcome any competition to help shake up the market
I'm in the same boat, strongly considering getting an Arc card to try out. More competition in the gpu space is needed badly.
Really looking forward to get more information on the upcoming Battlemage.
Agreed on Intel, as a newcomer theyve had a pretty solid start. Definitely excited to see what they bring in the future as they evolve.
That looks like a very nice card, to draw in all the people who refused to buy the 4080. I've been waiting for the announcements before pulling the trigger
I heard different rumours a while ago saying it was still 12gb, I'm hoping this video is correct!
Madness that they ever tried to sell the 4070 Ti as a 4080 12gb
As a 3060 ti owner, I refused to upgrade simply because there's been nothing from Nvidia that's worth buying. What's on offer either sucks (4070/ti) or is too expensive (4080/4090). 4070 Ti Super would it fill that gap, if it comes with 16GB VRAM.
am in the ecxact same spot. recently upgraded my cpu to a 7800x 3d but thr 4070/ti wasnt really where i hoped they would be and 4080 was way to expensive in norway, at about 1700 dollars. so i hope the 4070 ti super will fit th gap or maybe a cheaper 4080
@@user-eu5ol7mx8y
im going from a 1060 6GB to hopefully a 4070 TI Super
I hope the next generation rtx 5070 ti super boost comes out
i hope the 6070 and 7070 comes out after that too
will they release white ones?
Yea I’m pretty sure there will be white ones. Luckily the cards come out on the 24th & I have until the 31st of this month to return so I’ll just be paying the difference. but let’s see what happens. I hope gigabyte makes another aero oc for the 4070 ti super.
Yep, most likely, but not nvidia founders cards, gigabyte usually do a white one, other AIBs may also do the same. You’ll likely pay a premium for this though
@@davidnott_ hopefully they are available and not out of stock my like june or july
@@davidnott_ hey man i forgot to ask but would the corsair premium pcie 5.0 12vhpwr 12+4 pin cable work for the 4070 ti super?
hope the 4070 ti super wont be pricy since im useing a 1660 ti
i were gonna buy the 4070 ti but the vram were keeping me form buying it
the 16gb + upgraded bus make the 4070 ti super the one to get
who needs them now when 5000 are around the corner. Should have been 16 gbs right from the start, but the Jacket is too greedy.
I agree. This might be the first 4000 series card actually worth buying.
In retrospect, maybe even since the 3000 series launch. Because let's be honest, 3070 / ti with 8GB VRAM was a stupid card. Even the 3080 with 10GB was dumb, less dumb than the 3070 but still..
ASUS TUF 4070 Ti Super @ 800 Euro .. hoping from Serbia
Fingers crossed!
Will be uphrading from a gtx 1080 to a 4070 ti super as long as the mem bus and vram are as advertised
lol im ps4 still wait
both upgrades u requested, happened. ya bought it!
@@srobeck77 tried to preorder on NVidia website can't in the states idkw
if the 4080 SUPER will be 999$ as rumoured then I'll buy that, if it stays 1199$ then I'll probably follow this video and get either a 4070 Ti SUPER or a used 4080
I can't wait for 32 and 48 GB cards I know we won't get that this generation I was kind of hoping we would but here's to hoping the 1590 will have something more than 24
cards are starting to max usage at 12gb in games, so i dont understand this fantasy with 32 or 48, but not 64? U gotta reach for the stars bruh
@@srobeck77 cuz i do more than game and i can easily draw more than that when working in blender if im not careful. And why not 64? cuz GDDR7 which will be on the new cards wont have the bandwidth to handle 64 that would only be applicable to machine learning tasks which im not doing. And furthermore higher grade cards with more memory always encourages developers to exploit that to the best of their ability look at cyberpunk, or crysis remastered (during its hayday). Devs want to push existing hardware to the max and to do that they need better hardware
@@unmortal8672 i wanna use the mixing blender with 128. think of the margaritas u cud make
@@srobeck77 ah I'm talking to a idiot TYSM for clearing that up
@@unmortal8672 well stop talking to yourself so much from now on
I have my eyes on the 4070 ti Super... but now speculation is that the 4080 is going to sell for $999.. Might not be bad to go that way too.
The thought has crossed my mind once or twice too!
Still running a 1080ti on 1440 UW, its still humming along but getting long in the tooth, clearly I like to hold onto my cards as long as possible. 😅 Waiting for the 5k series, they will undoubtedly be a similar gong show but Nvidia has really left a sour taste with their BS over these 4k cards, they just arent desirable whatsoever.
I went for a 4070 because I got feed up waiting for the 7800xt. 4070 purely because 4070ti didn’t seem like good value.
I’ll be selling my 4070 and switching to 4070 ti super if it performs as well as it looks on paper
I had a 4070 briefly, though I run a flight sim YT channel as well, and at the time there was a massive driver issue with Nvidia and the sim devs said to roll back to an older driver.l, but it was so old, it didn’t recognise the 4070 and wouldn’t install so it had to go back.
That's stupid. Rock the 4070 till next Gen. Never upgrade one card for another in the same generation. That's financially irresponsible
going from 3070 to 4070ti super. the boost clock is better than the 4080 super as well.
As far as we know Nvidia, the 4070ti super could very well cost more or the same as the 4080 now.
It ended up being option 3: it was lower @ $799
Im on board for the 4070ti super if its around 800 usd. My 3070ti while a decent card for what it was just doesnt have the zing. The 4080 and 90 are just cash grabs no way is 12 to 1600 for a gpu acceptable.
What do you mean by the zing??
@@asc2276 That wow factor of a new gpu.
@@chrissteele196 ahh. I mean if you get a 4070 ti you will lose the zing after another year when the rtx 5000 series releases my guy. I know what you mean as I have a 3070 ti as well and it's lost its wow factor
with the 4070 ti being worth 800 dollars right now I am really scared to see that price on the 4070 ti super
It’s looking quite probable that the 4070 Ti Super will take the place of the 4070 Ti in terms of price and the original 4070 Ti will get discontinued. That’d be a good result
It ended up being $799. Did that still scare you?
@@srobeck77 If it's the same price as the 4070 ti was why bother even asking me if I'm scared of it, of course it's good
@@Stn-qx6kl that what I was telling you so you dont have the nightmares now
@@srobeck77 I'm going to have nightmares about your hating ass soon if you keep replying
4070TiSuper will be the sweet spot. But 4090Ti launch will crush the whole lineup.
ya theres zero chance im paying over $2,000 for a 4090 gpu. so it might as well not exist for my dollar
I’d be surprised if they launch a 90ti. Maybe if AMD proved to be a threat, but that seems unlikely for the time being
I’m skipping this generation entirely as I don’t see value in any of the cards apart from the 4090. Fortunately I have a 3080 which is perfectly good for now.
Every GPU could be great if the price is rightly linked to it... which is not the case for years especially for Nvidia...
i was expecting something of a 4060super pcie4×16 12gb for $300..... not this
I’m thinking of returning my 4070ti for this 🤔
imma probably replace my 4070 for it
@@strfush yea man, that extra vram plus a bigger memory bus & more cuda cores will definitely help in demanding games.
I play 1080p & I go for all the frames I can get.
Reguardless I’m still buying a 4090 in 2 years
Good card, sadly I can't get around buy any card from Nvidia in the foreseeable future after there price fixing and professional scaming of the gaming community under the last couple of years.
No matter of how good the gpu, it's a no go.
Upgrading from GTX 1070😂
Me too 😂
sounding off with a 1060 over here