THEY SAID IT WAS MODULAR... (a teardown says otherwise)
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- Today we durability test and take apart the new CMF Phone 1. A new budget device from the company Nothing. The CMF Phone 1 has user replaceable backs and a few accessories that can be screwed into the rear frame. So if you want to change the color of your phone on a moments notice - you can. However - thats where the modular ability stops. None of the internal components can be swapped out. The battery replacement and parts replacements still need to be 'done by a professional'.
Removable back cover and no user removable battery is such an awful decision.
Gotta keep being mainstream!
Just ignore the disclaimer and it's magically removable.
Wait till u see the official review of this phone by it's CEO n his buddy, they'll surely rate it 10/10 for innovation n flexibility. As one comment there said "it's like students grading their own paper". 😮😂😂🤭
You don't need to change the battery for the next 2 years... You'll change the battery after the warranty is expired. So you can do it by yourself.
It isn't tho....for them. The removable back is simply for you to buy accessories and back panels. You replacing your battery was never a part of the equation, just for you to buy shit from them. If they could sell you those individual batteries, without any Chinese manufacturers getting in on the action, then they'd do it.
A modular phone with replaceable parts that they refuse sell to you, oof.
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i learned in this video that "warranty void if removed" stickers are illegal. absolutely amazing, made my entire night.
Not illegal, but just decoration in the US.
It falls into that “loophole” of ways corporations are allowed to deceive customers but isn’t actually enforceable. Idk what the effin point is if corporations are still allowed to lie about it being enforceable, it’s better than nothing but why do it half assed
Are you really going to take megacorp to court because they denied warranty because you peeled off their sticker? Nope!
2015: scratches at a level 6, with deeper grooves at a level 7
2024: scratches at a level 6, with deeper grooves at a level 7
2056: scratches at a level 6, with deeper grooves at a level 7
you should watch the samsung s24 ultra review.
glass is glass, and glass scratches at level 6 with deeper grooves at level 7.
😂@@Oppilonus
except for the S24 Ultra
@@GarbanzoBeansFanYESSS
Only nothing could make a phone with a removable back cover and a non removable battery.
True story
Dumb phone
They are nothing for a reason
My dad's old Moto E4 Plus was that. Removable back for SIM and SD card but requires disassembly for the battery.
Nah, i had an old Lenovo just like this
Very happy and surprised that they at least included a micro SD card slot. Though a removals and replaceable battery would have been nice too! What a missed opportunity.
Even if battery was removable you were not going to swap it often.... Backup as well as charging speed is so good nowadays... It's only after 2 or 3 years you will need to replace it which will take only a few minutes as you only have to unscrew a few screws and pull it up not like other glued phone which requires technician ..... So it is better to keep it glued firmly placed... Then why people are disappointed... It's just stupid...
@nothing9220 Why you parroting the same comment everywhere a removable battery gets mentioned
It only makes sense to ask for it, what else you gonna do with a removable back, its basically a shitty way to have a case if the back being removable is so useless
All phones in this price range come with one though
Yeah if the battery is swappable, you can carry around as many spare batteries as you can and you can spend a very long time outside without needing to find a power plug
I think the biggest problem with this phone is it's missing nfc.
Just bought some ear buds from CMF a few weeks ago, they were on sale for like $26 and I needed some cheap replacements for using around the house and out in the garden. So far I'm impressed, they have good battery and range and don't sound like garbage. Excited to see more budget and mid range phones, plenty of room for smaller companies to come in and undercut existing brands.
7:53 HTC phone one , he thought that we would not notice
yes it was definitely intentional
Yeah, loved that, haha!
6:35 Who needs coffee when you have Zack forgetting to test something? I'm not going to sleep anytime soon now.
Bro how 7 hrs ago?
@@yeahronishyt he is a member who can see this earlier
@@ExcuseMeTheAudacity ooh I get it how much does it costs?
@@yeahronishyt 3.99 and 4.99 for teir 2
@@yeahronishyt press on the "Become a member" button and find out. It's next to the subscribe button on PC.
so Taking a backcover off means MODULAR? damn My Nokia 6600 is the best of a MODULAR phone lol
Except every relevant component was modular… so yes, it is
6600 is more modular, you can change the battery.
@@HearMeLearn so? all components are modular in a random vivo or a samsung a55 or such, actually most random phones - they come apart the same way with same sort of connectors you pop off
Lmfaoo
they never advertised it as modular, it was always "interchangable". dont know who started the modular thing
the fact that it has a plastic back makes my ears feel so happy.
Reflect on how meaning less your comment is. Makes no sense.
@@SpunkyGo0se same with yours
I love how you were on their marketing bulletproof video and then proceed to shoot holes in the product in yours.
7:53 'this htc phone 1 seems to be quite the catch'
Scrolling through the comments I read this just as he said it. 😄
Mee too 😂😂@@cbnewham5633
Yep
Yeah 😂
same
I really do wonder if it would have been that much more expensive to make the battery replaceable. That would have been an actual statement that would resonate throughout the industry.
The thing is… it’s not a matter of price. Companies could make all damn phones have a replaceable battery. But that means less profit in the future by making you buy a new phone when your battery stops lasting as long as before, so they hit two birds with one stone. Sell you a new device so then they can keep up with planned obsolescence.
It would've. Removable batteries require a protective casing to avoid puncture, beffier connectors, identifier and communication circuitry. It's easier to put a dumb battery you can control from the phone that make a battery that can protect itself from user misuse and explode or combust to flames (plus it protects you from lawsuits)
Ignore the stickers and it’s suddenly magically replaceable. I mean: ok, it’s not as replaceable as the old nokias. But it’s easy enough that I wouldn’t mind replacing it myself. Compared to apple, SAMSUNG and others the biggest hurdle (glass back) isn’t even present here…
@@gabriel_14179um, up until 2015 all phones and electronics had removable batteries just fine? heck, the Nokia 105 (a 20$ phone) has a removable battery no problem. don't tell me batteries you can remove are an unachievable feat of engineering.
Even if battery was removable you were not going to swap it often.... Backup as well as charging speed is so good nowadays... It's only after 2 or 3 years you will need to replace it which will take only a few minutes as you only have to unscrew a few screws and pull it up..... So it is better to keep it glued firmly placed... Then why people are disappointed... It's just stupid...
I'm so glad you are doing teardowns of Nothing phones more than iFixit has done. So much better than them already because you would at least give Nothing a chance to show their stuff to a large audience than iFixit would do.
0:38 bro said "rizz up your phone" im done 🤣
"Rizz up your phone"
5:36 goofed up
😂😊
i wish i didn't hear that
😭😭😭🙏🙏🙏
$199 with a 120hz OLED screen is pretty good going
No it’s not, it’s standard by now (2024).
@@TSS-nq2ul except apple with their 60 hz display in non pro versions
@@md.samarkhan9732😂 lol
Vapor chamber is also normally a feature you see advertised on higher end phones too iirc. Kinda shocked to see one here.
@@md.samarkhan9732yep I will never forget that. But it should be changing in the next few years
I miss the days when smartphone brands used to make devices with a removable battery and back cover. Now, they just want to make more profits from repairs.
Even if battery was removable you were not going to swap it often.... Backup as well as charging speed is so good nowadays... It's only after 2 or 3 years you will need to replace it which will take only a few minutes as you only have to unscrew a few screws and pull it up..... So it is better to keep it glued firmly placed... Then why people are disappointed... It's just stupid...
Technically it's removable. Just take the tape out and shove it back in.
@@nothing9220 cringe bot, stop copy pasting your nomsesical response
Something glued is cheaper than screws etc.
I dunno man, people always say this, but I don’t think people really want to go back to those days. Even when we could replace batteries, did you? Some people probably did, but most didn’t. I never did. They just charged them anyways. And I think everyone was getting really tired of phones falling apart every time it fell off a table. Not to mention you lose the waterproofing. I feel pretty neutral about the loss of the replaceable battery
Can't wait for the Z Fold/Flip 6 durability test.
Soon
Same
Both seem a bit bendier than their 5 version
have since today my new flip 6. hope the best and for a better hinge.. greeting from germany
Honestly, I am baffled by the fact plastic was nearly abandoned as the material for the externals of phones, and when it is it just tries to imitate glass, becoming just a more scratchable version of it...
I think more phones should embrace the polycarbonate with finishes like these!
Glass and metal might look and feel good, yeah... but they end up being liabilities in the long run.
Main issue with plastic is scratches, glass is generally much harder to scratch compared to plastic or metal. That's why there are a fair amount of plastic backs when it comes to budget or midrange
yup, plastic is really a theme on pixel "a" phone@@jasonls221
same here considering how much lighter plastic is compared to metal or glass back.
@@fabiosarrica379 pixel 5 proved to us that polyacarbonate can be used in Flagship phone
@@fabiosarrica379 and plastic can make a phone so impossibly light (the sharp zero series)
$199 for a OLED, 120Hz monitor, and here are apple users paying $799 and not getting 120Hz, and not even 3 years ago they weren’t getting OLED either.
Superior software
@@choiswimmer No
@@AurasV no software is superior software
Did you not watch the video? He said Nothing most likely LOSES money by people buying this phone so that they have a chance at gaining market share. It would be such a great move by Apple to copy that, suddenly start losing money when they’re the single company with the largest market share😂
@@GustavNilsson_lol no. Don't get fooled by apple. Oled screens of decent enought quality are not THAT expensive. The tech is not new, indeed just shows how out of touch are creators when they compliment those stuff. Here in Europe you can easily find phones sub 200 with oled+high refresh rate. 60hz oleds are at least 15 years old tech(I'm sure Samsung galaxy S4 already had an oled since I had one). This phone uses a subpar camera for the price range, a subpar chip for the price range, but has really good design and software so nothing for sure doesn't have the same margin as a 200 dollars Xiaomi/Samsung/Motorola/Oppo group phone just because they have for sure a smaller line and they clearly invested in design+ecosystem but no they are not losing money they build a pretty average phone for the price with some compromises to allow the fun gimmick.
0:40 "Rizz up your phone at a moment's notice" I didn't know my phone needed to be rizzed.
Well between the phone and me, someone needed rizzing.... so
I can imagine how any phone starts screaming when it's unwrapped... and realized it's in the JerryRigEverything lab and about to get tortured and abused.
A battery repair here is still significantly easier than most phone from the last 5 years, if you exclude the fairphones which cost multiple times as much. People will shit on it because that's what the internet is for, but I think this is a cool device with a lot of possibilities for 3D printed mods and at home repair.
I agree, having to remove a glass panel by heating it up and carefully cutting glue is the main thing keeping me from replacing my phones old battery
It doesn’t excuse the use of Illegal scare tactics by putting a label on it that says you can’t replace it.
Yeah I guess it is a pretty good, albeit small, step towards repairability. People probably at the potential it could have at having actual user removable battery at ~$200
@@quantuminfinity4260 nothing is a UK company and i believe there its allowed to have the warranty void sticker
@@quantuminfinity4260 - It's not an illegal scare tactic dude, it's the company just making sure they're covered if a customer fucks up when exchanging their battery, puncturing it and causing an explosion...
Strange Parts did a video on how a Chinese manufacturer makes aftermarket LiPo batteries for iPhones about 4 years back incase Nothing does nothing and doesn't allow you to tour their battery plant, like they totally should.
LiPo is now outdated battery tech... do better innovative tours..
@@dertythegrower Not sure why you're being so hostile, I did say the video was 4 years old now. Not to mention I did say that it was something to watch if anyone was curious enough to want to watch something now and incase Nothing doesn't allow for a tour. I'm sure there are other videos out there to watch of new battery chemistry tours, but it was the first video that came to mind and Scotty is a really cool and nice guy that I thought deserves more recognition regardless.
not beating the BBK allegations 😂
another front for getting more snapdragon/mediatek chips to reverse engineer
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@@dertythegrower A lot of phones use LiPo batteries. For example Sony, OnePlus, Xiaomi use LiPo batteries in their phones, even the Galaxy Z Fold6 has a LiPo battery
7:17 "and as we know, happy thermal paste ist the best thermal paste" had me rolling XD
Ngl the lightning on the back was clean ⚡️
7:53 HTC phone 1?
I too took a double take!!! I had to rewind that back to make sure that's what he said, haha!! I think Zack is dreaming of his older HTC phones... I do miss them as I had one also... :/
Thought it was I who misheard it... Glad I'm not alone 😂
Right?
Shout out to the HTC 10
wait, it was the HTC 10 that had front camera OIS? i had no clue, i still have that phone in my stack!
(its the stack of shame though, dead or unusably slow phones)
Still have mine to remember just how durable phones used to be 👌
@@ShoulinCSS dude the htc one was my favorite phone of all time. right next to the nexus 6p and the oneplus 7 pro
I had an HTC 10, it was a pretty cool phone and wish I didn’t trade it in.
0:41 😭😭 jerry Brainrot is something i never expected
2024 full of surprises
It's obviously tongue in cheek lol
0:40
$199 for a phone, is indeed a game changer.
I get the feeling in my gut its a scam tho.
@dewaldsteyn1306 hmm 😒 🤔 let's wait for the version 2 and 👀
0:38 "allowing you to rizz up your phone"
this generation is cooked😭😭
Fax homie
the way i frowned.
Even google’s automatic subtitle didn’t get it.
no cap
Nah, the subtitle is being edited by a person unless you are using automatized subs @@ihummingbird
Seems like this is a perfect platform for learning phone disassembly. Easy access and all the components are easy to trace and identify.
Besides the battery
@@redgamer821 nah the battery is easy to remove
@@backwardshalos6036 Easy but you need to unscrew lots of screws and mess with pull tabs. If they are going to make a modular phone it should be a modular battery as well, not glued in
@@redgamer821 the marketing material describes it as a "interchangable" phone not modular, jerryrig is just misconstruing nothings marketing to make some point about right to repair
besides this design is still way more repair friendly than most other brands on the market (no hard to remove adhesives or potential to break a glass panel)
@@backwardshalos6036 That makes it somehow even worse, because this battery is most definitely not interchangeable, not at least in a timely manner. I've cheapo Samsung phones several years ago that had actually interchangeable batteries, you just took the back off and put the battery in, no extra BS and I didn't need to be a "certified technician"
Everything is modular with the right tools.
I attempted repairs and battery replacements to my phone by myself, and i kid you not, seeing this CMF 1 here, i believe it is by far one of the easiest, i mean it's just sticker, peel it off a bit and unscrew the screws and battery with its connector is exposed.. it is far far easier than any of the glass-back smartphones..
I miss having a charging brick with the phones
at least this one comes with a cable though, most newer phones seem to not include that as well
@@readers3895No I guess most recent phones have cables but not any charging brick .
HTC Phone 1? 😁7:53
I had the htc one, was great phone
I was looking for this comment.
All that technology for $200 is mind-blowing
Is this phone good or bad??
100% chance it has built in Spyware or somesshit
@@Lynx0__0-- its great
@@Lynx0__0-- It is good for the price yes.
@@-timosflight already bought it 2 weeks ago
😄
It's actually good
But the battery it's still removable. The advice to no remove it are only a legal thing I think
Even if battery was removable you were not going to swap it often.... Backup as well as charging speed is so good nowadays... It's only after 2 or 3 years you will need to replace it which will take only a few minutes as you only have to unscrew a few screws and pull it up..... So it is better to keep it glued firmly placed... Then why people are disappointed... It's just stupid...
@@nothing9220 shut up
When I saw this phone on mrwhosetheboss, all I could think was what’ll happens when Zack gets it. Now I’ve got my answer!❤️
100% right about lightning... most people dont know that lightning strikes upwards either.
Usually down first, then the big flash back up once one of the “feelers” hits ground.
He said Kilowatt hours of energy, is that correct?
@@quantuminfinity4260 👍 Seems backwards doest it. 😁
@@carlwest859 It can be in the order of megawatts, but capturing even a fraction of it is extremely difficult. Logistics and economics aside. You can charge capacitors fast, but even a truly massive bank has its limits and you start to run into all sorts of problems.
3 types of strike...
Cloud to ground
Ground to cloud
Cloud to cloud (mostly refered to as "heat lightning"
Next, the visible part is not the actual strike but the return. The "strike" happens when the pathway is created (there's the static feeling/tingling people get when about to be lit up). The visible bolt is the discharge through that pathway.
Electricity is a fickle beast !
I have missed your phone disassemblies recently. it's good to hear the little Lego line again.
this phone basically prooves that phones dont need to be $1000+ to be good
im seriously considering buying one of these
Well Done HTC 👏🏻
what is HTC?
The expandable storage is kinda cool to have these days.
every phone in the price range still has it.
@@easygoing4964 just started to gain traction in midrange
i didnt know i wanted visible screws but i love this kind of industrial design
I like this phone so far. It’s definitely a breath of fresh air
5:17 "The CMF Phone 1 is no Fairphone 5"
Is this a reason to not sell replacement batteries? Or to make the battery connector a bit hard to access
@@0815dude nope, they could've made the battery easily replaceable without any screws or prying but they chose to screw over the consumer
7:53 Ah yes, my favourite phone the HTC phone 1
The milled pattern on the rear panel is from the surface finish of the metal mold during manufacturing.
For smartphone awards, you should do a segment on ‘most misleading advertising’
They never said that it's modular. People just started using that term.
Am I tripping or did a Jerry say HTC phone at about @7:58 or so? 😂
I get it that the battery is not easy to replace, but still it's something, it makes replacing 10x easier
They made the right thing.... It is necessary to place the battery firmly bacause battery connectors can loosen up if phone is dropped... The Phone is not glued down like every other smartphone nowadays.. Which makes it super easy to reach battery
Kind of crazy how we are just going in circles with technology. I miss the old days where you drop you phone and it completely explodes. Back cover flies off, Battery sliding across the room and your phone is just bouncing around on corners. I'm sure that will happen soon enough seeing now "Removable Backs" are now returning. lol. Fulll 360.
Can't wait to see how the under screen fingerprint sensor holds up ^-^
Before you said “It’s a sub-company of the Nothing Company” I was gonna yell “ITS A KNOCKOFF OF THE NOTHING PHONE!”
Womp womp
It's the same company 🤦♂️
@@G0o0se I didn’t fuckin know
The fact that it survived all durability tests is noteworthy. It's a shame about the lack of modularity for repair and upgrade but the low price tag still makes it an attractive choice for some users.
Sad reality of tech that skip basics like expandable memory, charger in the box, the higher & more expensive it gets. We just pay more for lesser features. 🤷♂️
I was waiting this.. Thanks for the video. really appreciate it. 👍👍👍👍
It's a real shame they didn't make the battery easily replaceable. Sure it's way easier than on most phones but they should have done that at least. I will never pick a phone because I can change the color of it although it's a nice feature.
It is easily replaceable even if you are an idiot
@@nothing9220 An iphone battery is "easily replaceable" if you're not an idiot. What easily replaceable actually means is no hassle.
@@nothing9220look at this parrot
@3:16 The rear panel is molded, but the milling marks are from the mold itself, quite common to leave machining marks on molds where they "wont be seen" They will often even feel like tool-marks as the geometry is transferred to the plastic part.
Am I the only one hearing HTC Phone One? Good old days of HTC comes back in my head
I want more videos just like this
7:53 HTC Phone 1?!
I caught that also, not sure if it was a simple mistake or one of Zack's jokes since HTC had a phone called "One"
@@flipclone probably joking 😂😂
"Lets make a good phone with decent enough specs, and the thing that sets it apart from its rivals is a removable cover and modular accessories."
"Shall we make the internal parts replaceable like the battery?"
"Nah"
I'm a phone repairer, and on Nothing's defense, they have kept replacing the battery VERY easy to be honest.
they probably just don't encourage it for everyone, because phone batteries have gotten wayyy better over the years, and people don't need to hot-swap a spare battery in like for cameras; and also for warranty issues.
That sticky doesn't do anything with the warranty.
0:40 Man down, I Repeat, MAAAAANNN DOOOOOWWWNNN!!!!!!!!!
I clogged the toilet today
Nothing: "THIS BATTERY IS NON-REMOVABLE"
The battery: *is very clearly removable*
His videos can simply be described as asmr and reverse asmr at the same time
0:38 please never say that again
We are waiting for z fold 6
Why. No change once again from last 2 years.. sounds like fun waiting for nothing! 😂😂😂
Well, z fold 6 will survive the bend test...... to a certain point.
Despite it doesnt have a swappable battery it is so easy to service and change battery
I've been looking at this phone in the 8gb/256gb version for a while now, at least since I saw people reviewing them.
On Amazon it's about $260 and packs a ton of power with it's dimensity 7300 (I'm pretty sure that's the ones it comes with). It seems like a real great deal for a budget phone in that price range.
I'm really glad you took a look at one. It makes me feel a bit better taking the leap for one, if I ever decide I can afford it.
2:09 that sound horrible even on low volume
Waiting for your review man ❤
Even though the battery is not replaceable by consumers, the fact that it is easily accessible and can be removed fairly easily means that a battery repair even from a local shop would physically look and feel OEM, compared to other phones where, say, there will be gaps or glue is coming out of the gaps, or screen got damaged in the process etc. This phone isn't perfect but it is better than most phones imo. This phone is more repairable than most phones despite not being a repairable phone.
This phone is cool. You can scratch it up and just replace the screen protector and back cover. No ugly case. I like it.
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Agent 47 on the CMF matter 😂😂😂😂😂😂👌👌
people pay 2000$ to buy a phone and don't complain about the non removable battery. But when you pay just 200$ you must get a user removable battery!
Remember that this phone is still easier to repair, or swap/change battery, while it is also easy to mod by adding a powerbank case or some kind of 3d printed backplate, which is cool.
most irritating part 1:40 🙉🙉
Great video, HOWEVER, I’d love to hear if you’ll give the iPhone another chance after the iOS 18 updates are all released?
uh.. they are overpriced.. always.. since day 1. undeniable to any techy
You have buyers remorse.. how will a software update help phone quality? Makes no sense.. they have always been secondary for operations and value spent
6:02 as a former repair tech, I literally flinched here. I was always super paranoid of stabbing my eye out with a black stick while removing batteries with tabs like this.
It's disappointing to learn about the lack of repairability despite the "modularity" claim. Interesting to see where the corners were cut to such an affordable price. Nonetheless, with its survival to the durability test and a host of decent features for its price, it's a thumbs up from me.
Is that iPhone 11 or is that iAndroid 11 😂😂😆
Oneplus nord ce 4 durability test🤜🏻🤜🏻🤜🏻
It doesn't feature NFC, which in the current days of contactless payments and such is a must. :)
Nothing: Please dont remove the battery
Also Nothing: *Puts plastic strips to remove the battery easy*
HTC phone 1 7:53 🐐🐐🐐
Garbage phone garbage company
Yeah i get the feeling in my gut this company is a scam company.
@@dewaldsteyn1306 it’s owned by the one plus guy who claimed to be a startup but was actually a oppo subbrand
We have almost gone full circle. Removable back, just need removable battery like the galaxy note etc had.
So kind of them to name their brand after the amount of actual replaceable parts their phone has!
To be fair removing that battery is still super easy. Warranty void stickers are just decoration anyway, if there will be replacement part this will be an easily serviceable phone. And it's pretty cheap for what it can do even without caring for the design aspects. Just don't want to use it for mobile payments as it doesn't have NFC.
Yeah..... Not like other glued phone... It can be replaced easily... It's just a few screws.... Nobody going to swap battery daily like they used to because backup and charging speed have become so good...
With deeper grooves at a level 7
Shout out to Jerry for being the only tech reviewers not being a paid shill for this company.
Man if it was actually modular and/or smaller I would be very interested in this device.