Ryzen 9000 Is Here! But Should Gamers Wait for X3D?
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- čas přidán 4. 06. 2024
- AMD announced their new Zen 5 Ryzen 9000 chips at Computer this week, but with the absence of the X3D chips being announced, should jump in on what's been announced or hold for the Zen 5 X3D chips?
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Me with my 5800X3D and no plans to upgrade to the 9000 series
Right there with you 🤜
If it weren’t for flight sim I’d be right there with you both!
yea this CPU is a champ but i would like to go AM5 next year just for funsies after I save up some cash
I have a 5800X3D with my RX 7700XT. It's been a dream come true for gaming. The only game that gave me hiccups was Cyberpunk because it seems to love Nvidia/Intel
I’ll stick with my Ryzen 7 7800X3D.
I am waiting for the 512bus version of the 5090 + 9800X3D + X870e MB. Mic drop
That'd be epic!
THE ANSWER IS YES. For those without 5 minutes.
Is it worth it to upgrade from 9700k 5ghz rn I wonder, for 4090 or 5090 if it comes out? I don't feel slowed down with this cpu at all.
The Zen 5 efficiency improvements are very interesting this gen. Could the new 3D chips keep the same TDP as Zen 4, but go 5.6ish?
Ive been running my 6900K for coming up on 8 years. I think I'll wait for x3D just so I can feel better about running my new build just as long.
Might take a while to secure that 5080/5090 anyway.
Does it come with a npu or not? I need desktop npus....
is Ryzen 7 7800x3d will outweigh ryzen 7 9700x ? in gaming
Current owner of Ryzen 7 5800X3D and will wait to see how the new motherboards and a shiny Ryzen 9 series or the next gen 3D variant will perform before I pull the trigger. Just a couple months away from finding out. Thanks for the video, Cheers!
Your couple of months will be over half an year. They will be launched CES 2025, so january next year.
@@Ricqu Probably right, I'm in no hurry to see Zen 5 in action.
@@Ricqu With AMD"s increase of their front end instruction pipeline with a possible full Cache twin CCX's X3D!? That would be interesting to see. So, I will wait and see what these new 9000 series CPU's bring us. Peace!
I’m waiting for Ryzen 10000
My question is whether a 7800X3D in a next-gen X870/E-based motherboard will limit anything/too much? I've been looking to upgrade for a while, but didn't like the look of the AM5 motherboards so far...
Why is that, instability?
@@davidnott_ I'd like to run at least 3 (possibly 4) NVME drives, (already have a couple to transfer and would like more), and I've read that a number of X670E motherboards seem to run into issues with that - not sure if the next gen boards will be as bad?
@@phillippatryndal4255 I doubt it will be much different with the new X870/X870E boards. They're not even new to be fair. It's just an additional standardization of features. This time making USB 4 a standard requirement, which will cannibalize some of the available PCIe lanes. I'm expecting to see these boards launching with fewer lanes for storage or for additional PCIe slots.
I'm torn, I want to wait but my 8600k is really not cutting it anymore and the release date of 9000 series coincides perfectly with when I can buy new parts
Rumour has it X3D might not be so long of a wait this gen. Time will tell I guess!
First, in my case, I don't need an upgrade right now. However, since I cannot frequently upgrade, I wait for something truly worth my money. I will skip the 9000 series and only upgrade my Ryzen 9 5950X when RDNA 3.5 is available on an APU. By that time, DDR6 or PCIe 6 might be available. Depending on the timing, I may wait for an APU with RDNA 4, which could be equivalent to a 4070 TI today. At that point, it would be worth making a significant upgrade to a completely new system, allowing me to avoid buying a GPU for a while until prices drop.
For those already on the AM5 socket, the upgrade might be worth it. For me, it looks more or less the same without significant differences in features or new technology, just IPC and multicore improvements, and future X3D. I am more interested in new tech and features beyond the processor. New technology for motherboards is just as important to me.
In 2027 or later, I will reassess my situation. For those like me who don't need or cannot afford frequent upgrades, I think waiting is the right move.
9950x3D with BOTH Chiplets having the 3D-V-Cache would be a buying argument for me! Otherwise I think I'll keep my 7950x.
I have a Ryzen 7 5700x and I plan on keeping it for at least 2 more years. Also I'm keeping my graphics card 4 more years. No more mindless upgrading and not really feeling the boost.
I have a5700X and a 6800, I see no reason to replace either for at least 4 years. My previous system was an intel 4770 and a 1660 super, I only replaced that in 2022, and there was no real reason to do so, aside from latest gen products looking a bit dodgy.
sell ur old system and u need only 400 bux plus and u have 7800x3d and it beats 14900k. i had 5000 ryzen cpu the difference in fps is from 200 to 500 % depends on game you play.
I wait for the next generation of built-in GPU since the price of the GPU alone is Unaffordable right now.
I swap out my computer every 5 years; I am old so that's been a lot of changes over the years. The one thing I have learned is it's not worth waiting for the next "latest and greatest" thing around the corner. By the time you buy "the newest" it will no longer be 3 months down the road. Not to mention the money you save by not buying the new "shiny" right at launch.
My current 5 year old setup is a Ryzen 3700X with a RTX 2070 Super. It has served me well and can still play games like Cyberpunk without issue (granted not on ultra). That being said my upcoming upgrade is going to be with the 7800X3D and a 7900XTX or maybe a 4080. Eitherway I am sure this new rig will serve me well for another 5 years. Buying new tech at release generally isn't worth it due to the price and the fact that within a year it will drop down and be cheaper.
We are not even getting 870 motherboards until September so I'm going to wait for 3d
X3D chips are launching CES 2025.
As far as I know companies don't announce pricing at Computex. It's not a launch.
i will wait for ryzen 120.000x until i get 100 years old than i buy cpu... who do not have 7800x3d he do not know what is missing.
Zen5 supports fclk of 2400MHz. That's 20% higher than Zen4 and will allow 7200MT DDR5 speeds. That should translate to better gaming. AMD sand-bagging? We'll see.
Definitely waiting for the X3D. Currently on a 7950X3D and came from a 7950X. It made a HUGE difference for MSFS.
Oh I bet! Hopefully it’ll launch soon, but I fear it could be into next year
@@davidnott_ Yeah it will probably be around February next year just like how they did with 7950X3D
I am planning to build a 9950X system this year. I am on a 3950X and I think it is time. I use this for work not gaming.
Sounds like a solid upgrade in that case!
4:05 ~ the question of price. I understand AMD are making these chips, for le$$ than one would expect. Meaning, they have some wiggle-room. They're holding off the pricing, because Intel have a new generation of CPUs coming as well, and AMD want to play pussy-foot with Intel price and marketing and availability. The TLDR news, is Zen-5 costs less to make (relative, allowing for inflation and supply chain issues and stuff) than Zen-4 did. It notably doesn't use the most cutting edge process available, it stays at least one step behind that, because of price and capacity / volume.
The smallest & newest process, was bought out / booked out, by nVidia. Now whether nVidia was trying to do AMD a huge favour, I doubt, but it may end up working out that way.
I’ll stick with my Ryzen 7 7800X3D.
IPC = instructions per clock cycle.. number of cores is irrelevant, same as clock speed... it's PER CLOCK CYCLE not per frequency nor per cores ! i suggest to study or think a bit before you make any conclusion or make video about stuff ... :) peace for everyone ! ;)
Yep, am well aware, but I still find it odd that they chose to put an eight core vs a 16 core in their tests. Why not do a 16 vs 16? Especially as the 16 core 7950X can boost a bit higher than the 7700X, that's what made me suspicious.
So it snot 16% ipc uplift but more like 10% hahahahah
u do not know how fast cpu is in gaming vs top end 7800x3d we need to wait.
x3d have only point if you combine it with highest end gpus on lower resolutions while for anything else its more waste of money and even base r5 9600x will perform better then now are 14900k in games and that will be enough for 90% of peoples
kinda what i'm doing, buying the 9600X and selling my Ryzen 7600 to a friend so he can build an AM5 platform cheap(er). I'm in no need for a cpu upgrade since I play at 4K, but I kinda want to help out when I can for my friends :)
@@_TrueDesire_ that is good decision because you will get exceptional good gaming cpu on 7800x3d level or slightly better and in productivity it will be better then 7800x3d definitelly just like 7600x was better then 5800x3d