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Almir Colan
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Assalamu alaykum! Welcome to our channel, where we're exploring Islamic finance and economic principles to help us make more informed decisions in our lives. đ
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How to Identify Riba (interest): Buying a Car Example
In this video, we talk about Riba (interest/usury) and how to spot it in everyday transactions. Using a common example of buying a car, we illustrate how one transaction can be done as permissible trade, while another can entail Riba from a loan or money-for-money arrangement. This can be hard to spot if you're not familiar with it, but by the end of this video, you'll be able to recognise Riba confidently, insha'Allah.
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what about savings account? our money in the bank is being eaten up by inflation. Even with a savings account, the rate offered is at 4.5% while inflation is lets say 9% you are losing money either way when you have the savings account or just by simply leaving it there in your bank
Invest your money. This example is nonsense. Today you can have a million tomorrow you have nothing that is the Dunya.
Is adding interest to the principal of the car okay?
Is there a cost to money? How do you reconcile inflation with interest when fiat currency and modern economics means that the value of money is eroded over time. Also, if we are in Darul Haram then could the economic system be considered anti Islam and of so is the prohibition on interest more nuanced. For example if I have $1000 and leave in the bank and come back in a years time and do not take interest the value of my money has gone down by inflation. If I was to take interest at the same rate as inflation I have effectively preserved my money. Is this RIBA or a Muslim having to operate in an economic system that is not governed by Islam?
To learn more about RIBA, its types, rules of trade vs. riba, and similar topics, please watch this longer video: czcams.com/video/18FJgXjqW0w/video.htmlsi=Q1ms2rf7Ace_M9aQ
How about modern Islamic banking system? Isnât that based on Riba? i.e. Libor, Discounting Factor, TVM etc.
I know the people who give lectures on it itself involved in it or enough rich they did no need riba...but they even don't help poor middle class...stay away from Thier problems.. So just they keep u where u r....đ
How about if the 0% interest free offer is only for a limited time period, meaning for example for 4 years, does this make the contract Harram, because it will be based on interest after all?
you know that you don't really own the car till you pay in full? the dealer keeps the title with him all the time, this might add more complications
You missing a payment adds complications, not who holds the title
Riba is not interest. Riba is Usery. Interest is the cost of money while usery is the excessive charging of interest to take advantage of people in need interest reflects that the value of money changesover time i.e inflation. The value of $1000 now is not the value of $1000 50 years ago. Money is just a piece of paper and the number printed on that paper is not what is important. What is important is the value of the goods and services it grants you in exchange for that paper. If you borrow $1000 and give it back in 50 years, then you must give back equal value and simply giving the same number would not be equal value. You can do so by calculating the value in monetary terms of a similar good. What would the thousand dollars have bought you 50 years ago and how much money is necessary to buy the same good today. Or you can use interest, which is the mathematical calculation of that change in value. At the end of the day money has no inherent value. It is a representation to reflect the value of the goods exchanged. Interest is therefore not Haram as is the mathematical expression of the value of money and allows for the exchange of equal value instead of the exchange of arbitrary numbers printed on paper. What is Haran is charging excessive interest to take advantage of those in need. That is Usery, and it is Haram. Anyone that does not have the understanding of the economic principles of interest and the difference between interest and Usery, but rather equating the two should not be giving advice and making Haram what is allowed as that self is a sin
This is very valuable, i hope you upload more videos like this. jazak allah khayran.
What about car insurance?or any kind of insurance?
Walikumussalam
No music please.
Give us a break, did the music make you dance? What next? No video recording? đ€
@@farahmo4519 It's an Islamic video. Give you a break from what exactly? You're not the one recording and posting this. It took you more effort in posting this reply. You could've given yourself a break.
@@tashrifapon6519 no it's not an islamic video. He's talking about finance. Neither are you recording the video to tell him what to do đ
@@farahmo4519 he literally talks about riba. He's talking about something that pertains to Islamic finance. I am not telling him what to do; I am requesting to not put music.
@@tashrifapon6519 Prohibition of riba isn't exclusive to Islam though. If he was talking about Allah, the Prophets or Ahlulbayt then we can allow your request since those are exclusive to Islam
Every U.S. dollar is built and created by Usury! Unfortunately every time you transact in U.S. dollars or any other currency issued and backed by a central bank from any country of the world then you are propagating and using and benefiting from Usury. The major problem is not when you buy some money for more money "which is still Usury". The major issue is transacting using their instruments of Usury which are all the currencies issued by the world's central banks and backed by the world's mega Central Banks: The FRB, The IMF and The BIS. Because of this mega evil Usury banking system, we no longer have money. We only have "promissory notes" which is classified as "currency" and not money, real money is gold and silver. The only solution is to revamp the entire world financial system which is just about to collapse on its own and bring forward a money system that is created an equity and justice backed by gold and silver. Until such time we are drowning in Usury every minute and every second of our lives.
The economic term for âmoney for moneyâ would be cost of financing. An intriguing aspect of interest rate is that if a central bank sets the interest rate to zero, this would lead to huge money supply in the economy (because of zero cost loans available, people will borrow more) and will lead to massive inflation. Because of zero cost financing, people will borrow more to cover their expenses. This in turn will drive the prices of goods up. So in the end, people will have to shell out more money to buy stuff. It is kind of a self regulated system.
Zero cost loans doesn't entirely lead to inflation on its own. It's over supply of money that does
@@farahmo4519 that is true. It is one of the contributing factors to increased money supply.
Brother, companies like mercedes will sell you a car at 0% but charge account keeping fees, etc
Slm. As questioned by Sheikh Imran Hosein, why should i buy car from bank which is so expensive compared to market price? Becoz bank sell at credit price, not market price. In Islam, market price and credit price should be the same or else Riba.
I enquired about the first type of transaction you mentioned when I was buying a car and I was told by a knowledgeable person, we do not make halal what Allah has made haram , we do not ask the dealership to change price of car to accommodate interest. Allah has not permitted anyone to change haram to halal in what ever way, thatâs what Jews did in history
the tiny hat people love interest
ۧÙŰłÙŰ§Ù ŰčÙÙÙÙ Ù۱ŰÙ Ù Ű§ÙÙÙ Ùۚ۱ÙۧŰȘÙ. So if I want to buy a house is it the same as you explained for car? Because I have heard them say it's a home loan or a car loan. Please clarify
Nothing wrong with taking out loans. The main thing is that you should not be punished with losing your asset entirely when you miss payment
Don't talk without knowledge
There is a saying...If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck Same too with riba, disguised by many muslims and islamic finance with fancy names such as profits or rents. Take so-called islamic mortgages as an example. Rent part of it goes up and down, when interest rates go up and down. If it is genuinely riba-free mortgage then this should not happen But it behaves the same as interest based mortgages. So it is riba based no matter how you justify it Same as some muslim car dealers offering interest free credit. But the prices of their cars are considerably more than market value. Their markup, accounts for the interest as the price overall is the same as getting a car at market value and paying the extra in interest over the years. This is nothing but deception. Using fancy names to show sales and transactions are riba free, when they are disguised This caused the downfall of Christians. We muslims are following suit.
You are entirely wrong. Rents and property prices do go up based on demand on supply and not directly from interest rates. I assume you are not a landlord or a tenant to know this! An Islamic bank becomes your part landlord when you takeout a house loan and they have the right to increase rent just like any other landlord
@@farahmo4519 Im afraid, it is you who are wrong. When you buy a property using Islamic finance, you don't own the property outright. But the bank does. So the bank is kind of the landlord or property owner, until you've repaid him in full. So, while it appears, you are justified to pay the finance company the rent, you forget 2 things This rent goes up and down, as interest rates go up and down. More to the point, and the tell-tale sign and the give away that this is a disguised western mortgage, is that when you take out an islamic mortgage and the finance company owns the property, then explain why the buyer is 100% responsible for the difference between the loan and the property price if the house price drops. The buyer doesnt own it, but he is expected to cough up the difference when selling the house when house prices have dropped. It should be the landlord who swallows this. But the buyer suddenly becomes 100% responsible. What happened to the landlord in this case ?. Don't give this nonsense that it is to be competitive with ribs based contracts. There is no difference in behavior between a so called islamic mortgage and a conventional western mortgage. Both operate in the same way, as far as end user and contracts are concerned, except one has nice Islamic words. And that's the deception. Don't believe me ?, even western financers who have done degrees will agree. I know, i spoke to them and they say there is no underlining difference The islamic mortgage is taking a riba based mortgage and adding islamic terms. Bit like taking haram meat, adding bits of halal meat and selling whole product as 100% halal meat. Sorry, its still haram. No such thing as a halal swine.
before I give you a proper reply, answer me this; since when has rent gone down because interest rates went down? đ€
@@farahmo4519 They have, where i live. In a Western country. And there are plenty of scholars and muslims who share the same views as me, and have discussed this so called islamic finance. Some muslims, with practical experience who took out islamic finance, say its the same to the end user as a western finance. Even student loans, if you go with islamic alternatives, you end up paying the same If you choose to listen to others, that's your decision. But i see disguised riba even if you dont
@@SultanOxford in Islamic finance you and the bank are both owners of the house proportionate to your shareholding. Say a house is 100k and rent on the market is 1k. If you have 20k share, bank has 80k. You pay the bank rent of 800 as you also pay the bank out of their portion. Simple as that. If at all you get into financial difficulty, the bank works with you to offload the house and you get your proportion back after costs. If you are against this arrangement, which one do you propose??
I want to build a farm to be self-sufficient and to feed as many people as possible Jazzakallahkhayr
Algo
The challenge is, when you say it's a sale contract, we need to remember that someone else is putting down money for you and it's not the car dealer for sure! That someone in most cases is the bank. Here's where it gets interesting... 1- That bank is using someone else's borrowed money (with promise of interest) that you have just used to pay for your car purchase. 2- The APR% you have agreed to is not going to the seller of the car. It's gone to the lender instead. Hence how can you claim it's halal? Dealers don't absorb the APR and are bound by the retail price. Increasing the retail price is subject to additional taxes like VAT and almost none of the dealers would do that. E.g, check what amount the dealer is using for the VAT next time you are at a dealership. Lastly, perhaps the biggest point most in this Ummah have failed to grasp. Let's zoom out a bit and realise that every industry is hinged on the balance between the demand and supply. When we borrow with riba associated in any shape or form (Direct or indirect financing with promised appreciation), it fundamentally helps the interest based industry to flourish. Less money in circulation and money held to a few privileged while rest of the population struggle to make ends meet. Sounds familiar eh!
To learn more about RIBA, the different types of it, and how to judge business and financial transactions, watch this video I recorded earlier: czcams.com/video/18FJgXjqW0w/video.htmlsi=GxYSZvCMX9DRfLxL
Any advice on how to correct the situation where someone bought a car from dealership with interest?
Pay it off straight away
Thank you for the work
Assalamu alaikum brother Almir. Scholars should come out and speak about all the things you spoke about to instill the idea of taking initiatives. You'll find that their main focus is ibadat, which are still important, but specialists in your field and other fields have to come out and make the point. We need to make all these ideas a culture amongst the people.
Walaykumu salam - thatâs the idea đ
Thank you for the work
JazakAllah Khairanđ
Waiyakum
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A word of caution for those who might think that the two examples mentioned are the same. It is tempting to say that sale and loan contracts are similar or the same, and that both are riba if the financial outcome is the same. We have to understand that riba, where money is exchanged for money, is not permissible, while a sale contract, where money is exchanged for a non-monetary item, is permissible. Those who fail to grasp this concept are very similar to those mentioned in this verse: "Those who take ribÄ (usury or interest) will not stand but as stands the one whom the demon has driven crazy by his touch. That is because they have said: 'Sale is but like ribÄ,' while Allah has permitted sale and prohibited ribÄ." (Qur'an 2:275). So be careful not to be like these people who looked at the financial outcome in terms of the costs of the arrangement but ignored the fundamental nature of the transactions. I have covered rules of RIBA in more details in this video - czcams.com/video/18FJgXjqW0w/video.htmlsi=Q1ms2rf7Ace_M9aQ
@@AlmirColan This verse is for people like you.Who themselves dont know why usury is prohibited and what is definition of interest.Interest is the rent for the money why buyer goes for higher price??beacuse he does not have the full money to pay so basically supplier is renting its money.which is haram in Islam.
Why can't we sell money for profit? Suppose, I want to buy a lot of trinkets from different shops which are priced around 2-4 dollars. I have a 1000 dollar note and a 5 dollar note. My neighbor has 500 pieces of 2 dollar notes. If I want to buy this stack of 2 dollars by giving him the extra 5 dollar as incentive should it be considered as Riba? Here isn't I am just buying transactionability for 5 dollars? For making the situation simpler let's also consider that it's a spot transaction.
Selam alejkum Brate, Dali bi mogao samo odgovoriti dali je Day trading halal ili haram, moĆŸda i prijedlog za novi video đ Maksuz selam
Pakistan had an agricultural economy? Now, it's more like an agricultural museum. May Allah SWT guide us all.
JazakAllah khairan
Could you please explain more about the difference between the two scenarios? Why is one halal while the other is not even though they are both technically the same in terms of the amont of money involved?
You can profit from the sale of goods, but not from the sale of money. If you open any book of hadith and look at the transactions, you will find a hadith about exchanging gold for gold in equal amounts and hand to hand. (Next video will talk bit about that insha'Allah)
AOA brother, I am following your riba videos since 2017 but I beg to differ here . Lets say novated lease triparty agreement b/w you, your company and bank, in this case company cuts salary and pay bank as lease payments. However, this scenerio you thinks as a car subject matter but in reality it is a loan b/w bank and you where bank pay initial upfront to buy car and you pay back lease payment (plus riba) to bank. Please reply brother if this is correct understanding?
In novated leases, the subject matter is the car, and the companyâs payments from your salary are simply a payment arrangement on your behalf, often done for tax purposes. It is not a loan but a lease. The method of calculating the rental rate does not make the lease an interest-bearing mechanism.
This man supports riba but in sugar coated halal profitsđ
I also support having sex but in a sugar-coated halal way.
That's your own understanding. If you don't know, you should just ask.
That's your own understanding. If you don't know, you should just ask. Higher profit is not equal to riba, per the Shari'ah of IslÄm.
@@Victorylooms No need to ask You.
Don't embarrass yourself and chat shit
Islamic banking is backdoor Riba. Let me explain. Why would someone buy somethig at higher price when market price is lower for any product from institutions like islamic banking even tho money from money isn't involved just like he said? They are giving us time. Time is money. Making money from time is the classical definition of Riba. If you are paying now for this product pay X.. if not...pay Y at later date for the same product. Its clear Riba
So what should we do?
@@menaa5978 make sure the transaction is based on market price not made up price.
You have mixed up Profit taking, inflation consideration with Riba!
I recently went to a dealership to buy a used car with cash only. To my surprise, they weren't even willing to accept it because the norm has now become to take a loan and get into monthly payments. And of course that includes interest. That's unfortunate. I didn't buy the car, alhamdulillah.
Crazy how a lot of people even among our ummah doesn't consider that knowing riba is haram. Either that or they just don't care consuming it as long as they get rich. Astaghfirullah...
Stay away from dealerships Akhi they rip you off with all their overhead. Buy from a private seller instead, especially if you have cash.
May Allah replace it with something better
đI recall walking into many dealerships a few years ago to buy a used car in cash. Everyone kept looking at me as being crazy for wanting to pay cash when I could have easily gotten the car on loan. Alhamdulillaah, for the guidance of Allah.
Riba is Riba my brother, there is no excuse for it...
Unfortunately many of our ummah still consumed them yet when it comes to pork and alcohol they immediately went nuts. Not knowing riba is just as same with those both.
Unfortunately, many people don't understand the difference between sale and riba. They think that sale is riba and riba is sale. Look at this verse from the Quran where Allah speaks about people who say these two are similar: "Those who take ribÄ (usury or interest) will not stand but as stands the one whom the demon has driven crazy by his touch. That is because they have said: âSale is but like ribÄ.ââ, while Allah has permitted sale, and prohibited ribÄ." (Qur'an 2:275)
@@AlmirColan Exactly, brother. Having business and sales is obligatory because its part of akidah to earned rizq in halal way including contribution to society and Allah dislike lollygagging(lazy) people who don't work. Even the Prophet PBUH have his own trading and business during his(PBUH) lifetime. But the fact that today our ummah and non muslims alike, don't consider riba is an exploitation, much like cheating, to earn wealth is just absurd. Then they complain why rich people keeps getting rich and poor getting poorer. If only they knew...but arrogance and ignorance is too bliss for them.
Great explaination! Assalamu alaikum from Bosnia! - VatreĆĄi
Alejkumu selam paĆĄa moj dobri
Lets consider a simple scenario where a shop/ online shop giving discount price if we pay in cash and in full, they will give a discount on the labeled price, but they also have EMI with 0% riba, where they are selling the product, but as labeled price, will that be also going to be riba? please let me know, thanks in advance.
To have different prices for spot or deferred payment of goods in a sale transaction is fine, as long as you pick one arrangement and thus one price at the start, and it does not change later with time.
@@AlmirColan Jajakallah khairan
@@AlmirColan I implore you to make in depth research on this answer! Because most sheikh agree that different prices is an evidence of RIBA
@@abushnuffread carefully what I said and you will find that it matches exactly what scholars are saying - you are missing the point. Scholars are talking about scenario where price changes after sale transaction is concluded.
u.s treasuries bond gives riba to muslim majority countries
Is that in your control?
@@user-fm4db6cq7g not in mine yet we pay for it
@@user-fm4db6cq7g not in mine yet we pay for it, must give the truth, whether u like it or not
@@user-fm4db6cq7g stating the obvious, whether u like it or not
@@user-fm4db6cq7g just stating the obvious
I am not Muslim, but I really enjoy the principles of money from all cultures. Thank you for the content đ
Thank you for simple and clear explanation.