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Oooo, I don't need much pushing to go kitty, I really love the playstyle. Feels like SV Hunter, without all the dying.

God damn you fucking nailed it zuco....Sin has been my favorite spec for years but I just dont even play it anymore.

wildstalker it is boring especialy resto

Did I had some fever dream or they were really five players with arcane shield in that tyrna dungeon

If you run DA, I think spike>flay, as mind flay counts as periodic damage and spike does not.

Just don't get cat ear headphones Zuco.. I know we all wanna be cats :P

I get the whole thing about Stealth and buffing damage/abilities when you unstealth, I mean you're a rogue. Stealth is an essential part of the kit. Both outlaw and sub have ways around this, assa does not. I would love to see something that cools down Vanish, like bake it into Dashing Scoundrel for every weapon poison crit it lowers the cd by 1s. That way you can use Vanish as an offensive cd but also when you fail to get back into stealth for the next pack. Also completely agree on Garrote needing to be added to Deathstalkers for assa, seems like a massive oversight.

I HATE SWARM !!!

I mean, darkest night reapplies your 3 stacks of mark over and over again, or it should based on the description. so in theory you would not run out of marks while fighting one boss, even without vanish. but this falls apart on council fights, on any fights with phases and so on. they should make blindside ambushes also apply the mark if the enemy has none.

I know you try to be positive on your reviews but come on... Feral is terrible. The Hero talent is one of the worst. You cant even see it. Like you said, the energy regen is terrible. Why play a class taken back into the Vanilla days of slow energy regen? One dungeon you might have thought it was cool/fun, but weeks of playing the tab target game and hunting for your Vine target is going to wear off very fast.

The vine healing is pitiful btw

Great video

Playing deathstalker in M+ is a bit of a meme right now. Which is unfortunate because deathstalker seemed the coolest of the 3. Fatebound is better, only because its so passive, its like its not even there.

Calling feral defensive's good is a nice joke. Compared to the actual good classes feral and druid as a whole is at the bottom defensively and that doesn't really change in TWW. Having the lowest hp pool of pretty much all classes is what hurts them the most. The defensive's just don't make up for it.

Stormelementalist no1. I LOVE this Shit

So happy to hear someone talk about how awesome Convoke the Spirits is. I take that on every druid spec if possible.

Hero Talents as a concept are supposed to actually *be* heroic feeling: maybe referencing old Warcraft heroes, or using lore that's broader scale and interesting. You got your Riders of the Apocalypse, your Keepers of the Grove, Dark Rangers, Sunfury Mages, Templars, Archons, etc. that have far-reaching lore to pull from, are "big and flashy," have references to old Warcraft history, etc. There's motivation when statting those out to make them cool, bombastic, functionally useful, because there's a lot riding on the reputations of these concepts. Blizz can't just make a BAD Dark Ranger (or at least, shouldn't) because that spits in the face of Sylvannas, the OG WC3 Hero, Drow Ranger, and all that derivative lore over the years, so they're motivated to actually TRY when designing it. But Rogue? You just have generic Coin-Flip guy, generic Hidden-Blade guy, and generic Marked-For-Death guy. These aren't 'big and flashy,' they reference essentially nothing in old lore, and frankly they don't *DO* anything, and that's just okay by Blizzard, because they're made up nonsense that reflects nothing significant of the past lore, and so has no standard to meet in terms of design philosophy. They've actively chosen to not pursue cool Rogue ideas along the lines of these other classes, like some kind of Guildmaster that summons helpful adds that could directly reference Gallywix, or some kind of Alchemist Savant that makes Bombs and better Poisons that could reference the Alchemist from WC3/DotA, or even new, but actually striking and exciting ideas like some kind of Illusionist Shadow-Magic user with Shadow Clones and Darkness clouds or a 'Serial Killer' type guy influenced by movies that like stalks his prey and leaves calling cards, takes trophies, or displays his gory kills to grant buffs/debuffs or something. SOMETHING, ANYTHING that's actually exciting, and interesting that could motivate a design team to actually say to themselves, "Oh wait, that's COOL, let's do something COOL," instead of sitting around just tweaking a number here a number there until an entire Hero Talent tree just ends up amounting to a passive 10% damage buff with no interest, no interaction, and no FUN. Worst thing is that it's so late in development that asking for giant overarching concept changes such as these to actually make Rogue feel COOL is useless. All they can do now is tweak a number here or there until people can squeeze blood from the stone, and then they'll move on, leaving Rogue bland and boring, but at least "functional."

6:43 if we dont press primal wrath then how do we spread rip ?

Those buffs to ambush and mut are hilariously painful 😖

Cannot wait to play the same exact talents again with 3 entirely passive hero trees that I'll barely notice if they are even active and literally 0 new visuals. Pog Get ready for another 2 years of the Outlaw stealth 400apm athritis build...

Claw druid could be very good for Delves, soloing elites and some types of pvp.

Feral vs Boomy? Is feral doing more dmg?

Been a feral main since before Burning Crusade. Stop hyping me like this, historically when we get good we get un-good'ed pretty quickly so shhhh don't tell Blizzard how you feel right now.

Not so fun fact: If a boss phases it looses the Deathstalker Mark, effectively shutting the entire hero tree down till your able to vanish to re-apply. There's 2 in raid where this is the case.

I'd love to give this a proper try but maintaining all the bleeds and stuff on aoe seems so so so so difficult that it'd take months to get used to

Guess no one remembers the Claws of shirvallah talent that made Feral half cat/half human during WoD. It was fun and I wished they brought the appearance back maybe the talent as well. If you think about it, that was the prelude to what we have starting in legion: Guardian Druid's werebear form. however, Claws of Shirvallah was a half cheetah looking skin and it looked really nice

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Again thanks for the consistent uploads

Because blizzard based the hero talents off of abilities that both specs tied to then have in common like ambush or stealth. Assassin rogue relies heavy on dots while the other 2 specs not so much so kinda hard to combine a dot spec with a bursty spec

Deathstalker...i completely agree, the Mark should be applied via Garrote and needs Tuning. Also whats about all thats Bilder damage in the tree. Most nodes are boring. Fatebound needs some Form of netter visual and Feedback and Numbers Tuning. Also the kapstone Mode needs a Bit of rethinking. What If you have more than 30 Seconds mandatory downtime?

A rare critical Zuco makes an appearance! I love it! Feel the exact same as you, the over reliance on stealth for Assa and Outlaw has caused me to put my rogue aside. Both specs already have a good identity and all the stealth stuff just ruins it for me. Great points with the hero talents too.

Spouting spirits was an azerite trait from BFA

finally someone noticed it

Do a Demo lock please <3

Garotte applying deathstalkers isnt a bad thought. i think the initial idea behind it is so that you can get the priority target marked then bleeds up on prio, with the carnage talent (which was nerfed i believe targets wise as i remember garroting and silencing 5x mobs at once) you are able to spread the inital bleeds about but as you said 6 seconds makes that a very tight window and should you have to react to something and be out of position it will mess up the rotation and output. I personally run a sudden demise, carnage, arterial and kingsbane in m+ & tend to do the dragon tempered on tyrannical / raids. Love all the guides so far though especially with the latest few being builds i like to run :D

That ethereal raid set may be the best tier set this season tho

It's sad to say that it feels like too many hero talent trees are simply missing the mark. Like the idea soundeded cool on paper for a handful of iconic class archetypes, but the reality is that most seem to be disappointing. The biggest wins from beta that I've seen are the base class and spec changes (like Survival Hunter). But too many Hero Talent trees are either at odds with their base class, pigeon-holing you into a very specific playstyle, or quite simply don't add anything of fun or substance. Being a Dark Ranger, a Deathstalker or a Druid of the Claw should be an absolute blast of a class fantasy to play, but instead they're aggressively 'meh'. And what makes it all worse is that, for the billionth time, Blizzard have added an extra layer of balancing complexity on top of everything else that will inevitably cause problems down the line for them. Don't get me wrong: I'd really love this concept to work. But it all smacks of another idea that hasn't been thought through in the long-term and is going to end up disappointing more people than it excites because it's trying to achieve something that it quite simply can't. And that's a real shame.

I always felt good when playing feral because i have to use more than 3 buttons and track a couple of cds , but i do not appreciate other classes out dpsing me with 2 buttons

The ambush part ist very shitty. Think fatebound ist better. A passive in the Background and you do your standart Rotation.

Love your content. Would love to see warlock.

I'm so excited for an all lightning build. I'm so ready to move on from primordial wave AND lava burst.

you are not using the special ability of your storm elemental

Wouldnt it be lovely if the ascendance node was actually a choice node for elemental? So could be a fire or a lightning version??

the line is actually "jesus christ, it is jason bourne!"

Is that jhon wick in a blood party

So yeah, as an enhancement main I hate you for these procs xD

It's ok if you're a resto shaman, but water doesn't really double as an offensive element, which many shamans prefer.

Ele blast is bugged too right now, not giving 2 charges when you have Lava Burst

I feel like there is a bug with pw and lightning bolt with storm bringer I was playing around with my own variation where I had all 3 capstones (technically) and when I had 6 flame shocks out every other pw lightning bolt was not procing right my damage was super weak and but still had splintered elements buff but when I looked at the damage meter my lightning bolts did little to no damage and sometimes it showed it only hit 2 targets when there was 6 flame shocks out but when it proc'd right I busted 2 mil burst lightning bolt 6 targets and then tempest but can't seem to pin point where or why the bug is happening or what's triggering it. Seems you had the same bug happen in the first gameplay clip, it you look you had splinter elements buff so it went off but no big boost in damage