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GUYS I asked chat gpt on the the trinitarian teaching between the east and west which would it pick criteria on consistency and this is what i got and i quote: " If forced to pick one based on personal preference for a balanced approach to theology, I might lean towards the Eastern tradition. This preference stems from the Eastern emphasis on the relational and experiential aspects of the Trinity, which can provide a more holistic and less abstracted understanding of God that is deeply rooted in the early ecumenical councils and the church fathers' teachings. However, it's important to note that both traditions offer profound insights and are more complementary than contradictory."🥲😏😆😮

Didn’t know this was actually an opinion that existed

Roman catholics worship political power. They like the ideal of a central power structure.

Wow, the essence-energy described in such as way, (6:25) from Synodal Tome Paragraph 27, makes so much sense to me! It makes the essence-energy distiction even more neccessary and really does show that the patristic saints did teach the distinction. I don't know why Thomists/Catholics are so determined to make God's Essence and Energies identical: - The Son comes from the Father, the Father is that from which the Son comes from, they cannot be identical (modalism). Yet, they are one as they are unified and not seperable. - Likewise, the Energies come from the Essence, and the Essence is that from which the Energies come, they are not identical. Yet, they are one as they are unified and not seperable. Thus, we say the Son is distinct from the Father, not seperate and not identical. Why can't the Catholics/Thomists similarly just accept that the Energies are distinct from the Essence, not seperate and not identical. It makes sense to me. Why don't they get it?

I'd like to be a Christian, but I can't quite get there. I've watched a lot of videos, read a lot of books, and I can't find any answers to the core questions beyond...it doesn't make sense because it is a mystery and you just have to accept that. (Which I'm sure you can appreciate is unsatisfactory to an outsider looking for answers.) Anyhow, thanks for your work. I'll keep watching.

Study the Bible, it’s its own best commentary!! You cannot out psychologize the Bible for God not to throw you into hell for all eternity. In other words, you cannot come up with a good enough excuse here and now, so you will not be able to on judgment day. If you say you did not want to be born, God is going to say you should’ve been born again, that means become a Christian so that’s not gonna work. And there are no other excuses try to think of one. So now you know for the first time in your life, that the Bible is smarter than you and it is a steel trap, smarter than all of mankind, What should you do then? So at least investigate and look to see that these things are true, because right now you just learned the Bible is smarter than you, and you will be accountable for your life on judgment day before God! Prophecy, the Bible is 27% prophecy, that’s future history written in advance. God‘s really sticking his neck out to get it cut off if he’s wrong, but he hasn’t been wrong about the thousands of prophecies that were fulfilled, so he’ll be right about the end of the world prophecies as well and you’ll have no excuse on judgment day for not looking for truth! Caveat: you cannot look for God in times of chaos says Isaiah 45:19, so you better do it now. In other words,You’ll be too worried about your own survival when chaos hits, than your eternal destiny! Statistic probability of 40 writers writing the Bible with zero margin of deviation, proves God wrote the Bible through the 40 writers! God authored the Bible! DNA does not auto encrypt, the code writer is outside of the code of the 3300000,000,000 lines of computer code in the human genome of our DNA! So who wrote the code to such sophistication? 1,000,000 seconds is 12 days, 1,000,000,000 seconds is 32 years! That’s the difference between 1 million and 1 billion! One person’s DNA could fill the Grand Canyon up to 50 times full of books. John 21:25 “I suppose everything Jesus did, the world wouldn’t have enough room for the books telling of it.“ this verse would be fulfilled! Psalm 139:16 “in my members you have written many books“! Psalm 139 is about the human body!

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4th Palamite synod of 1368 condemns the Thomist position explicitly.

It’s strange how badly thomist want to reconcile palamas. I honestly believe it’s because thomism provides no spiritual life or experience at all.

The Arian heresy has been around a long time. But it denies the basic revelation that God has made of himself in scripture. The words we use >>Father, Word (Son), Breath (Spirit)>>have been given as sufficient for us human beings, but the reality is divine mystery, far beyond what our limited minds are capable of understanding. The simple revelation is straightforward. The Creator spun the universes into existence out of nothing by Word and Breath. He sustains the created realms moment by moment through the same. He communicates with his creatures through the same. And at the appropriate time, the Word became flesh and dwelt among us. Today, the divine Breath dwells with power inside those who will receive him and initiates a new creation.

It's crazy how blatantly some people just lie so I'll comment on some of the commentors that I've blocked. 1) "Pino admits there's a notional distinction": He clearly does not throughout the whole book, as I've quoted the "notional distinction" is just a notional separation of things that are distinct yet united in reality. This guy either was fed this script by some online discord guy or is actually really stupid. 2) "Dr. Bradshaw denies real distinction": The quote is actually him denying thomistic real distinction because it entails separation, in other words he denies applying thomistic metaphysics to St. Gregory Palamas' theology, since they have completely different presuppositions. Ofc once again either a quote from some guy or the guy is flat out stupid, or just an incredibly dishonest person. Moreover, Dr. Bradshaw is quite adamant on the essence energy distinction being a real distinction to the point where he himself like St. Gregory is hesitant to even use the term "conceptual distinction" precisely because of the current misunderstanding some people have. The video itself already sufficiently addresses all of these arguments. And I honestly don't believe that most of the people who refers to these books etc. have actually read or understood what they've read. No wonder when most students in college struggle to read and understand even a 10-15 page text and have to spend an entire lecture just trying to understand one or two pages of text.

if God, the greatest being, is constrained by logic, then that makes logic the greatest being. the most elementary metaphysical analysis yields separate beings for all of God's characteristics. to claim that the characteristics of God somehow count as non-beings is impossible because non-beings don't exist. i suggest all Christians focus on the merely very powerful God of the Bible rather than the problematic omnipotent God of theology.

Was Ronald McDonald a vegan?

What a great work, as usual, and I remember your debate with a thomist in which you put things in their right place

thanks for putting this together David

The Amazonian people thought our Drones were aliens when we flew into the untouched world so I can see them thinking that!

Thank you very much for your work, David. God Bless

TD Jakes is a modalist who also denies the Trinity.

It's kinda funny, in a dark way, you talking about "Father" Schooping since he had Apostated.

72nd 👍❕️ It makes me feel so complete!

Dr. Bradshaw doesn't agree that this is a real distinction either though. He actually says in the same paper you sited "I would agree with Spencer that the Scotistic formal distinction is the nearest correlative among the scholastics to Palamas’ distinction between the divine essence and what Palamas calls God’s natural energies, such as goodness, being, life, wisdom, and power." - Dr. David Bradshaw Essence and energy what kind of distinction? Page 35 He also says in a video Jiub has "The distinction between is fundamentally, the distinction between a agent, and the act of expression of that agent. And I don't think that's a real distinction, at least the way Aquinas defines the term." -What is a real distinction? Are E/E really distinct? [ft. Dr. Bradshaw] 3:29-3:44

E-Catholics are massive pseudointellectuals, and the saddest thing is their followers don't know any better. They just clap along, rooting for their team. Totally alien to Christianity.

Just got the Pino book pdf online. David, how can you say that the whole of the Latin west believed error on the filioque and "Augustinian theology" for so long and not be called out earlier? How much of the Latin west confessed the Greek patristic understanding and for how long?

Dwong has been real quiet since this dropped

St Athanasius was an arian guys!!!!!! 🤯

For a more in depth yet quick analysis of the idea of "conceptual distinction", this is a MUST see video relevant to this topic: Conceptual Distinction in Orthodox Christian Theology: czcams.com/video/alJLc6iQOH4/video.html

This is so lame, before Photius filioque was never an issue. Maximus the confessor made it clear that the west was not expressing a double procession. It really boils down to Orthodox acting like spoiled, self-centered, child. If a Catholic was to say "we have a beautiful blue sky today" the Orthodox would say the sky is green. Get over it, you broke communion by going against the councils. Orthodox always have an excuse. The early eastern church was a heresy factory! Without Rome the east would be Arian!! That is the truth. No Arianism no filioque issue. Take responsibility for your involvement in the issue.

This place should've been Orthodox

How do you think can we call such people Christians? AntiTrinitarians are like another religion

So a no-name is spewing heresies online ignoring the Bible entirely and trying to look smart while making an idiot out of himself? Why do we need to respond to these fools when they can simply open the Bible ?

SDA aren’t even Trinitarian Christian much less Protestants.

Trinitarianism is a pagan cult

You can kick this can around and around and think you’re making ground. You’re not. The King created the Office of Peter (Matthew 16) to keep unity in the Kingdom. He created the Office of the Prime Minister. Surrender. Be obedient. Pride will continue to divide and cause heresies. Peter, the Bishop of Rome, and he alone has the Keys of the Kingdom. When you can get past this biblical truth, I’ll listen to your arguments. Peter has spoken.

Good video. Never heard of this Jesse Lee Peterson fellow. Seems like one of those Neo-Arians today who say Christ was just a man or a lesser deity. They've been appearing everywhere for some reason.

Miaphysitism is the Oriental Orthodox belief

As soon as you can get around the Catholic and Biblical evidence that Jesus started the Office of Peter and the holder of the Keys (Matthew 16), I’ll listen to your secondary argument about this controversy. You can’t, so I won’t. Case closed.

Meh

My dear christian jesus is not God .is father God name??whats jews God name??

The “heat of the fire is the fire itself?” - Really? This is an illogical and incoherent claim. Heat is produced by fire, and metaphysical causation or priority suggests that the Father actually causes the Son, irrespective of whether this is atemporal or not. This means that the Son lacks aseity though possessing eternality. Then, using “God” in equivocal ways in reference to the Trinity is philosophically plausible but biblically irreconcilable. If the essence is called “God”, and all three distinct divine persons possess the essence of ”fully”, this results in blatant tritheism, doesn’t it?

How is the average Protestant pastor like this :/

It seems people can be deistic, theistic can understand psychological benefits or uses of religion. But the modern mind struggles to have a nuanced theology of God and struggles to see why that is so important for everything

Greg Stafford on his channel CW Jah tube totally destroys the false teachings of the Trinity!!

In 2009 I was an atheist and I bought God Delusion with enthusiasm. I had previously read Dawkins' books on evolution and they were very good. Reading God Delusion I felt a huge sense of awkwardness because of my previous philosophical training. And rather than criticize something from a position of ignorance, I prefer to keep quiet. Now, thank God, I am an Orthodox Christian and I experience similar feelings of embarrassment when some Orthodox criticize evolutionary theory from the position of creationism 😀 .

JLP is a damnable heretic. He teaches several damable heresies. 1) Denial of the Eternal Son Jesus Christ. 2) The new birth is in control of the sinner. 3) Sinless perfection.

Irony is that by being misogonistic towards women, they are probably re- inforcing it, only towards women.