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I'd be happy if it went core if I could set kingsmarch as my base, so annoying having to keep going to Kingsmarch to micro manage everything.

This is my favourite league in a long, long time. I am sat with more divines and chaos than ever at this point in a league I have been able to do pinnacle bosses for the first time as i havnt gotten board of a character before getting it to a point where it could as building characters is more fun for me than pushing them to the high end. I may be biased as most of the rewards that i have gotten have been very good compaired to most of people have said that they have received. Like my mappers running tier one maps and dropping me a Soul Taker and 4 divines in one map. For me it feels like it's a evolution of the hideout. Only think it really needs is a map device and I won't be using mine nearly as much as it just feels better in my opinion.

this is I think the second league I've actually made a second character first being funnily enough also archmage in delirium this time that was a decision made cause I wanted the chest opening caster mastery to make blighted maps suck a little less and the build looked cool probably not the best build to waste a point with but oh well. also interested to see what changes are made to kingsmarch when it goes core cause it is definetely too powerful to go core unchanged

I know this will not happen, as GGG has never done anything remotely close to it but my hope with it going core is to combine it with heist and expedition, to make it all one unified process that can run all in tandum alongside of running maps. make it so you have to heist to get bars out of small chests, run expedition to get crops, and the shipping and disenchanting happen in Kingsmarch. Interact with everyone in Kingsmarch, and upgrade the town as a whole to tier x, instead of each individually since it wont be the main league (I wish this was the case with heist as well instead of each person and each person only had line one item slot, that is the single worst thing about heist for me, not doors. It takes forever for it to feel like it comes online). since the characters are already part of the town, it would be super easy to make it make sense lore wise too. Again, I know this is a pipe dream and won't happen but I think it would all work really well together.

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I would say except for the auction house, the belief for KingsMarch to go core is 100% copium ; proove me wrong 💺💺💺

Gold creates a toxic cycle so that I always feel like I have to go in and farm gold otherwise my Kingsmarch stands still..

I did start this league after taking a (justified) skip of last league, but now I decided to play SSF and I have never played a SSF character this far. Yes I don't even have the AH and this is my favorite league of all time and I have played almost all leagus since 2013 with just 5 skips. I hope Kingsmarch stays, and not just the AH. I hope at least shipments will stay, it feels so good logging in after work or in the morning with 3 loot screens waiting to be opened.

i'm a noob but why would they get rid of an expansion? hiest, mapping, sanctum where all expansions that had a bigger system than usual

I honestly only care about the currency exchange staying. But we will need other gold sinks so some form of Kingsmarch will survive

Talkative Tri is convinced that basically none of it is going core, but I cannot imagine basically it all going core. Ships and map runners increase retention. The currency exchange completely changes the dynamics of getting currency. And gold feels so natural in POE from the first time something dropped gold. It is really more of an expansion but they might risk killing the game if it does not go core it is so compelling.

this league was the first league a mirror of kalandra dropped ever for me ( thx alva)

Harvest is really a bad example here GGG have kind of repeatedly said for years they the biggest mistake they ever made in the game was making Hsrvedt core Now for me Harvest was the best league by far for me in its history and until this session I have never played remotely as much as I did in Harvest but then came this league and this will easily be my best played league ever

The league is dying youtube videos like this are coming pretty quick this league huh

first point is straight up misinformation, be it malice or incompetence im not sure. either way its disgusting. be better

I've been wanting to continue playing this league more than any other one in a long time. I love having my workers do things for me while I'm at work. My only real complaint is that I cant farm enough gold to really run everything like mappers at full capacity due to my time constraints which is ironic since afk running mappers was one of the things I was most looking forwards to this league. I'm hoping to see more interaction between mining ore and delving, like finding gold nodes or double ore nodes. Seems to make sense thematically and would make delve more fun.

26 minutes to discuss an obvious answer? Really? Kingsmarch is a town in PoE 2. We can't very well have a mechanic where we build it up every season if it's a main town in one of the acts, can we? Enjoy it while it lasts because despite how nice it is, it's gone after 3.25. I still don't understand how they decide what to add to core and what to let die, though. Dogwater like Sanctum gets to stay, but the chasiest chase mechanic they ever introduced (crucible) gets axed? Wee Todd Edd.

I think your argument about if they remove kingsmarch they'd have to change currency exchange a lot and is not true at all, they would simply nerf gold to an acceptable level to only use the currency exchange its really not rocket science,

Town is gone for sure no chance they have the whole town shit in the game permanently, gold and auction house stays, But I would of also said the same thing about heist like no way they're gunna leave this whole entire fuckin heist thing in right guys>? so I can be wrong

Honestly I just want the whole league to go core. I have no complaints. Yea sure they should tweak the numbers a bit, but the whole thing is great. And even better, you don't have to interact with it if you don't want to, unlike Necropolis.

I think we can safely say there's no way they can talk the auction house away at this point. I'm sure it was just the test for POE2 might see some tweaks but it's definitely here to say. I like the idea of King's March becoming POE mobile in some capacity but we can still interact with it from the PC or console.

A day or two ago Ghazzy did a little complaint about how you could use gold for the exchange or gold for your town, but not both. He saw that as a negative. I see it as a positive. You have a choice. You can run your town or you can play the stock market in your hideout. It's giving the player choice. If you are doing your town and you want to switch, you just let it run out or sideline all of your workers for a while. I think the game is better by giving us easy choices like that rather than giving us everything all at once.

Things that are almost certain to go core, unless something goes horribly wrong (90+%): - the currency exchange (it was made to solve part of the trade problem after all) - gold (to fuel the currency exchange in a non-tradeable way). Things that have a good chance (75%) of going core: - Faustus's black market gamba (as a way to dump excess gold and/or give gold some utility in SSF). As an aside, that might prompt a rework of Gwen's expedition shop, since the black market fulfills the same niche. Things that may or may not go core (50%): - recombinating device. If it goes core, expect it to require outrageous amounts of gold to use, plus some other currency (chaos/exalts/divines). Alternatively, GGG just reenables recombinators to drop and makes them rarer (since they're already much worse anyway, according to people using them in Standard). Things that probably won't go core (25%): - Kingsmarch itself. If it goes core, it probably replaces the current area as the end game player hub, since it has been a while since it was changed from Oriath anyway. Things that definitely won't go core (as much chance as Chris Wilson's hair growing back): - shipments, map devices, ores, disenchant, farms (lol of course no) - kalguuran rune enchantments (no way another craft bench is added to the game, even if they nerfed it into uselessness)

excellent video!

I'm loving kingsmarch for 1 league, I really hope it does not go core tho

The two main factors that I think tells us that GGG will make SOK go core is, that the mechanic is so different from all other content in the game and they love content diversity, and the fact that it's Kings March and not any other city name makes the perfect connection to PoE 2.

the league mechanic is meh , boring , nothing to it except gold collection stress , the idea is good but poorly implemented , i dnt see it going core as it is , also its not fair to sell perimim tabs for people to trade , then give free exchange house for every one , , i dnt see that a fair deal to people who paid real money and have 10s of stash tabs , but who knows , ggg did worse things in the past ,so we just have to wait and see

GGG have said the currency exchange exists as a test to see if it can be done permamently. they have even laid the groundwork for it being permament with Faustus in hideout. All they need is to keep gold dropping [perhaps less often without the sinks in Kingsmarch] As for Kingsmarch itself going core; some things would have to be tweaked. Worker management will be a lot less of a thing if resources are only popping up 1/x maps. I doubt Kingsmarch is the sort of thing that could really get atlas support or scarabs. If the resources are not spawning every map; you're going to need to increase the yield per resource. Rebalances aside; I see no real issue with it going core; as a source of Tattoos especially.

Its a game changer for poor efficiency casual players like me. Thats why it is well received. I got 10 divines from ships. That is more than I get in a whole league usually. Plus im still playing.

While I like the currency exchange it feels better to sell something to get chaos than use chaos to buy something price wise with gold mainly. Another thing feeling is that during the acts I was like yeah I am getting enough gold to keep my town going but mainly from the moment I hit half way maps I feel like I cant keep up with my gold to keep the town running. I scrambled my gold around from a few play sessions and got to nearly 200k gold and I know if I just let it in the town I get like 1,5 to 2 days worth out it and it is gone while it took a lot longer than that to get it which makes me feel a bit bombed out by. Ingeneral I think the league is good but I still feel like there should be some tweaks more people who dont spent 16 hours per day playing to enjoy the mechanic more than in current balance state.

While I really enjoy the city and think it is generally a fun side mini game and enjoy the progression path I think it would likely get very old over time if they treated this anything like they do other league mechanics and didn't mess with it every league. Then factor in how basically nothing lately has gone core or when it does it really feels or looks nothing like it was on release I don't think this would go core.

Faustus is the goat, the rest of the mechanic is underwhelming, I really dont understand why this league has such better reception then necropolis

transmission received! cant stop playing! have big plans! right now, after the mid-league patch, i would miss recombinators most if they were removed again

Honestly, the majority of the league content is mid as far as content, its very underwhelming for rewards. Map runners and shipping are basically bubble gum machine vendors. Have an occasional valdo puzzle box, divine, or memory. I have a full set of tier 10 map runners and im running 8 mod maps, and the rewards are underwhelming. There is only one good thing of the league, and thats the currency market. The city building and hiring the settlers is engaging. But when u complete your city, the rewards arent worth the effort. I even had 3 sets of map runners, and the rewards never scaled up. I think the happy reactions feels like Metamorph league. Everyone rated it as a good league, but it wasnt the league mechanic that made everyone happy. It was the expansion of the conquerors. I think when people will look back at this league, the currency market is the only relevant thing introduced, the only thing that made this league highly popular. I dont believe Kingsmarch will go core. This was a beta for POE 2 for the currency market and gold into the economy.

Currency exchange is the GOAT, but i doubt kingsmarch will stay since it produces too much divines to be left in the base game.

So far I have made a two-hander sweep, glad lacerate but my favorite had been a hollow palm gladiator just finished my t16s and am pushing lvl97 for the first time. This is my favorite league since the expedition one.

I'm starting to not even be able to pickup loot I can see on the ground.

I mean having easier access to uniques is nice….. but it reminds me of MHR. Theirs a very large gap between the actual gameplay and the drop of the rare stuff you want. And you still have to wade through the swamp that is this games trading system. Maybe I’m just bad and I’m blaming the devs…. But maybe in a looter I should be getting loot from playing the encounters and not from an idle farm running in the background.

First time i quit poe after 2 weeks abd probably will not go back since they fix the loot

On top it feels like they're forcing you to use that recombinator. The mods on items are way worse than the "not dropping currency". +6 Armour, +2 Evasion and +4 Life on a Ilvl 86 item... are you kidding me?

T16 low Quant vs high with (+130% Quant) feels mostly the same, base drops are horrible, even boosted with 80% deli.