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im IK31 now (inter-knot level) and im having a blast. The combat begins to shine around this time cause the battles increase in difficulty. The story finally begins to make sense. Now I wish I didn't skip most story plot lines to get here. The game has become very interesting and really fun to play. I think most people won't make it this far however, as the beginning of the game drags on and unless you are hooked early by the story, its easy to say "bad game has no depth, and the TVS! Please stop! But after lets say IK25, the game starts to really take off. Im glad I toughed it out,cause its been so good since then.

ZZZ is a fine game. I do enjoy it but not enough to take any time from WUWA or HSR (even those I barely have time to play these days). The hate on ZZZ is overblown but its ok for a game to not appeal to you compared to other games. People just need to play what they enjoy and move on instead of hate posting everything

I love how everyone compares them but to me their all just a new fun game to play :)

Some zzz haters are really unhinged tbh. Got called weird and a person who's in the spectrum for actually enjoying both wuwa and zzz LOL. If this is already rock bottom for zzz in their eyes, then it can only go up from here and I can't wait what it has in store in the future.

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Probably another factor that the game is getting a lot of hate is that they honed in into the combat a lot during their release stream, specifically saying that it'll get a lot more difficult the more you progress into the game. What i typed may or not be true, but i suggest watching the stream for yourself to get your own string of opinion.

For anyone complaining about the combat difficulty, please clear until the end of chapter two(the belobog arc). the contents at that point (either endgame stuff and story battle) will give you a glimpse what the ZZZ combat difficulty will be like. If you still dont like it you prob would still hate it onward and you should stop there.

I love Genshin and Starrail, but as ZZZ is a combat focused game and is 60%+ sitting in a UI instead of running around exploring the world feels bad. For me ZZZ feels like the sections in Assassins creed where you get pulled out of the simulation to advance the "story" but all you want to do is play as the assassin. I do like ZZZ story and it makes sense why the world works as it does but I do feel disappointed that its not as open world as Genshin.

as a devil may cry and sekrio player this is a game for me, also the sci-fi fantasy setting which i really dig. even my friends who played wuwa play this game and even reached high level faster than me.

All the hate at least the non constructive and unreasonable ones are from ex genshin players🤣🤣🤣....They have discovered a new religion which is to hate on anything hoyoverse related doesn't matter what it is.....the same thing happened when HSR was released and look at it now, just give it a few months and people will start praising the game...!!!!

I have even seen Wuwa fans claiming that Wuwa is superior than Elden Ring. Sigh 😕

11:00 this is what happens when you farm drama you're community becomes the most festering childish people ever

another thing youll notice is like if you click on a :zzz bad "video you go to there channel every other video is wuwa which is cool but a bit odd that its every single channel

Damn Nut Nation popping off, I started watching Sir Nut when he had like 1k subs, dudes almost at 10k, deserved 🤠🙏🏼 fire HSR and hopefully ZZZ content

It's Combination of Hoyo Hate and WuWa Meat riders.

agree, if ur going out of ur way to be in complete disbelief on why people are liking the game just because u dislike it and see some problems with it, and feel the need to tell on them and saying their coping and a hoyoshill is more about ur talking about what kind of character u r rather than u thinking u r smarter than everyone posting ur shitty take on it

thank u for not saying anything about tv, im literally so exhausted listening to people always bring up that inside to why they hate the game or call the game mid arguement, like they r for sure just more boring than the tv mechanics at this point

The fact of the matter is that they advertised ZZZ as a combat focus. The first 10-20 hours the combat is very boring and tutorial-ish (even challenge mode). You spend the entire time wading thru a bunch of garbage that isn't what they advertised. I don't know who designed the "early game flow" but it's TERRIBLE. There are plenty of games that do this so much better. They give you all the basics at the beginning (how to play/what your character does), then introduce a new game system every once in a while. This allows you to not be bombarded by non-gameplay related stuff, so it's less annoying and more fun for most players. It feels like ZZZ packs too much of that shit into the first 10 hours. Other games will give you entire 20-minute levels worth of gameplay and at the end, unlock a new feature or upgrade or whatever. ZZZ is like here's 5 minutes of wading thru the TV system puzzle, then a 30-second fight, then 2-3 minutes of TV puzzle, then another 30-second fight, then 3 minutes of a random mini-game, then 5 minutes of fetch questing, then 2-3 minutes of reading the new game system they introduced to you, then 3 more minutes of dialogue. Ok now repeat the process during your next quest, except this time it's a main story quest so there's more dialogue and a bunch of cutscenes. Sure I enjoy a lot of this bloated nonsense, but the ratios need to change for a COMBAT FOCUS game. Or they need to stop baiting players by lying...

"how dare people actually enjoying the game that i dislike, unacceptable"

CBT players: "We don't like the TV 'gameplay'." Hoyo: "Ok, but here's some TV gameplay." Players: "This game sucks." Hoyo shills: "You're not giving it a chance. You're just hating on it." SMH

I really don't care about people's opinions about this game. Played Genshin, Honkai Star Rail and WuWa since they came out. Some of my favourite video game franchises are Persona, Bayonetta and Fire Emblem, and this game really blends it all for me. I may already have 30h-ish hours, I'm Inter-knot level 27 and I can really feel where the game wants to lead me on. The combats are starting to be tougher (mostly in Shiyu Defense and Hollow Zero) and I really like how the story focuses more on the "slice of life" side of the siblings' life (taking care of the videoclub, earning money from commissions, having a real day/night cycle that impacts what's happening in Sixth Street). I love the characters' designs (which don't need to be that complex as some people like to say, since this game is more grounded looking) and the combats feel veryyy smooth imo. The TV system reminds me of how Fire Emblem uses his grid system to show what is happening in the battlefield and it adds a sense of dynamism with how the story can be put in picture (that time where we get to a 4-squared monster appearing in front of us, Genshin and Honkai could never make it visually speaking). Reminder that even though it's a gacha, this game is FREE. You can enjoy the story and even clear the most difficult content without spending any money. People are complaining when they didn't even finished the game's prologue or unlocked the endgame content (I have yet to unlock the Drive Disks shop). Of course, the game is not perfect in my eyes, there are still lots of problems that need to be improved and mostly QoL stuff, but I am very pleased to start my 4th gacha game addiction (please help me i'm starting to be mentally ill)

100% agree with your take. You're one of the few gacha content creators that I actively watch. I really enjoy playing ZZZ so far. The VHS tapes and CRT TVs are quite a nostalgia trip for me. I look forward to playing more after coming home from work.

You sound quite emotional here ngl. To me the biggest disappointment with zenless is that Genshin ended up being a pretty but mid game, then HSR has been a big step up and now it seems zenless took a turn for the worst and overall is a downgrade from both of them. Was hoping they'd continue their upwards trajectory. I don't want to support a company that has a shoddy track record

i've run : bailu/ Gallagher/ March 7 + asta or pela . I should upgrade some damage dealers because the combat are 20-30 min and it's time consuming

I'm just mad at the ZZZ dev livestream or video VS the actual game. I hadn't watched other dev videos **BUT** for the final promotion thing before the game's release and it should have said exactly what the game was to hype the game, I don't think I did wrong or incorrect by judging the game based on what the devs said and presented *there.* And yeah. 27 mins of maximum hype for combat just to get into ZZZ and its the most minimum amount of combat (not bad, I like it and want more, just minimum amount) is so infuriating. I'm personally peeved off bc Hoyoverse kinda outright promoted something completely different than what ZZZ actually is. If I'm a Hoyo hater for that, fine. I still think Hoyo was extremely shady there to get downloads.

I do play all of the game mentioned, Hi3 Genshin HSR WUWA PGR and now ZZZ, and yeah most of these comment are what seem to be gacha gamer that grow up with Genshin most of the time. I kinda understand where they coming from "Genshit" stuff which is kinda true. Genshin have been in their slowest and lowest period, literally only picking up when there is a new hot char. This kinda show the importance of good fanbase and the importance of taking care of those fanbase. imo Genshin die after they push away Hi3 player that enjoy their actual good combat. Wuwa give what us Hi3 player that enjoy combat wants, which is a good combat and gameplay to actually use it. I really hope ZZZ can have a good endgame cuz really the only people that actually will stay playing these game are waifu collector that daily log in and do bare minimum. and people that actually enjoy the combat. (sry for bad engrish). Amedayoo.

Great video. As someone who's not a big fan of hoyo's previous games, I really enjoy ZZZ. Sure the combat may not be super great right now, but the game needs time and there are plenty of other good things going for it. This game is probably one of the most, if not the most, polished gacha games right now. Not only that, I personally feel its a nice breath of fresh air, character designs are more interesting and unique, the world feels alive, and the art all around just looks so good, especially the animations. People are just hating to hate, either play the game or dont.

Everyone's opinion is valid.

Hoyo is the top dog, so the hate will flow towards them (but also the fanboys will come out). Expecting maturity on the internet is a tough game to play though. Personally I'm playing and will continue playing the game cause I really dig the overall vibe. The music, visuals, animations...etc. Even though I'm a bit bored by different parts like the tv and the moment to moment combat, the vibes are carrying me through for now. I don't know how long that can last, but as f2p that isn't a big deal. I'm not spending so if I become bored it's not a loss to stop playing really

Yeah, and the general anger and aggressivity on comments scare more neutral or favorable opinions away, which skews the way we perceive public opinion on the game. I'm commenting here but I def never engage with the online discussions, I'm too old and tired for that. I just wish to enjoy my tv puzzles and cute characters in peace.

I failed 50/50 good start smh

Guys, you should probably keep in mind that lowering your world level is generally only good when you currently have a good dps but bad echoes, or you're just that far off into the end game and is still loaded enough to not care. Because other than that you generally could use the extra materials from those drops. You should only do it if echoes are the only necessities left to farm.

God damn my favorite like, ZZZ Story has tooo much STORY in it..... hahahhahaha... well personally i don't give a shit about what others think about stuff i like, i play ZZZ cuz i love it, after being a long term Genshin player, Wuwa for me, was just an extension of that experience, Open world(which i prefer genshin's more) and really cool combat, but it didn't hook me as much, cuz I've already experienced it, ZZZ is like a breath of a new fresh air, its different, it unique, and its hella funnnnn..... LOVE YOUR CONTENT BTW...

I used to always +15 every good relic only to be met with 5 rolls into flat defense. Now, I +3 a good relic to try and get the sub stats I want and it feels so much better

I still believe ZZZ is a great Game. maybe a bit Story heavy for some people. only reason i could give why it's below WuWa on my Priority list is because the Gacha. 90 hard pity 50/50 chance to lose for charas, 80 hard pity 75/25 chance to win for W- Engines (banger name) meanwhile I get guaranteed Weapon in WuWa as well as 80 hard pity characters. The difffence for me is just very noticable so yeah. Would still support ZZZ tho insane nice art style. btw nice rant video xD jkjk

Really good video on the topic. Keep cooking Nutty!

started zzz a few days ago, because of a friend who plays hsr (more casually then me) and we chat about it sometimes. ZZZ has been giga fun tho, love the aesthetics, love the music, love the UI (weird I know, but wuwas is so... trash) and I like *ALL* 6 of the standard S-Ranks(5stars) which is a huge plus because if I pull and miss and get one I wont be as sad. Super fun so far, obv not in lategame of it, but love it so far. Got a bit of vibes from a lot of fun stuff I love (a bit of persona in there, as an example) 100% can understand if people dont like its differences, but eh, appreciate you nutty

Meanwhile Im enjoying the hell out of the game. Its nice to have a brawler/beat em up that you can hop into and play for a few hours and hop out of, and it's story is pretty fun so far. My only real complaint outside of some of the designs of the characters, is the music not hitting me as much as in the previous titles, both complaints being pretty subjective anyways. Actually, if I had any complaint is that Mihoyo is stuck doing gacha games, when they clearly have so much potential to make a proper knock out adventure action rpg game without all the crappy live service/gacha junk.

We cant play 100 games at the same time and tbh zzz is not very special. so i prefer a lot of other games over it.

The videos are reasonable, but it's a bit sad when you go into any ZZZ videos and all you read is hate and how Wuwa does something better. Personally, I don't even know why we're comparing the games as they feel so different. Hopefully, people will give up, and those who don't like ZZZ will lose interest.

My honest opinion about the hate on zzz.. "hardcore players are not majority in a community but are the loudest for shure"

I'd be very impressed if some no-name came out with zzz levels of art, animation, music, voice acting, hitting multiple platforms on day 1

As an avid player of games like Persona and enjoyer of turn-based and open-world fighting, I really enjoy the way the game is presented and how the game's mechanics take inspiration from many games that I personally have enjoyed, for example Persona's life-cycle which is the day-night cycle in ZZZ, or the similar fighting mechanics which is similar to HI3, although I do see some problems with ZZZ, especially the TV sections because of the clunky mechanics and it being a little boring. All in all, I really do enjoy ZZZ and its characters and its mechanics, and as an avid gamer, not all games have to be perfect, and this game is definitely not perfect and it honestly embraces that, which is what I love about this game.

I'm genuinely enjoying ZZZ, the combat is great and my only complain is the TV mode. I expect that aspect of the game to get better since its a very common point of contention. I appreciate that you let your voice be heard. The hate for ZZZ is crazy overblown. I'd probably rate it like a 7/10, no means an amazing game of the year, but a decent game that will most likely only get better over time.

So many good game coming out rn from gacha game to AAA game, im just overwhelmed with all the new game and update . . . . (Elden ring stream and video when? ddx)

As i consider my self very down bad for stories (I'm a constellation in orv), I'm very much invested in zzz after they drop the lore bomb video. In stories, character personality has a very big influence but damn all the characters have great personality. Just to add the graphics is top notch P.s. I'm also one that dislike the tv, but that alone didn't encourage me stop stop playing or hating the game

All Y'all who've become jaded over Genshin's lack of endgame. All I'm gonna say is, "You're all missing out." I too was disappointed at one point, but i took a step back and reevaluated my main reasons for playing it. And the endgame wasn't it, neither were the rewards. I don't regret sticking with Genshin, it's only gotten better. I'm really enjoying ZZZ as well, the story and cast of characters are great so far. The only disappointment is the surprising lack of voice acting, even in progressive quests. It's too early to tell how the combat will develop, but it's fast, flashy and fun for me... 🤷

I've been on the Internet longer than most, and I've learned that when you discuss anime or videogames you're almost always going to end up interacting with either children or adults with the emotional reactions of children, who need the thing they don't like to be the devil. There's obviously a lot of reasonable adults too, but the obnoxious people tend to drown them out. They're just not worth listening to.

As someone coming from Star Rail, who never played Genshin or WuWa. ZZZ so far feels mid. There is nothing majorly wrong with it but it consistently misses out on the margines. E.g. Pulling a character for their looks but can’t use them in the overworld and you can’t turn them around and zoom in on them to admire the details even in the character screen or in missions. There are different roles but combat rotation is the same except some character wants a bit more field time. Why not increase enemy damage and let supports heal? Why not add bosses that do weird shit unless you break them with stun characters? Why not add big damage mechanics you can cheese with a defense unit? The TVs is what it is but if you want to make every fight to begin at the computer and with the TVs at least add more computers in the overword, integrate them into the story and make some unique background and maps.

Great video. I'm glad someone is actually covering the crazy ahh overblown amount of online hate I've seen on a game that is nowhere near as bad as some people wish to make it out to be.