Arsenal & Spurs Fans DEBATE Ultimate 23/24 Team | The Eleven

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  • Who would make a combined starting eleven from Arsenal and Tottenham's current squad?
    Arsenal fan Turkish and Spurs fan Flav argue it out, working their way through each position on the pitch and deciding which of their players should be on the team sheet. Whilst they might agree on Declan Rice, things start to hot up when it gets to James Maddison or Martin Ødegaard..
    The Eleven brings a classic pub debate to life. Two rival football fans go head-to-head, to debate which players would make it into a combined team from their clubs. The Judge - a neutral fan - has the final say on each position on the pitch.
    Thanks to James, Turkish and Flav of The Fighting Cock for taking part.
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  • @HarryHinch23
    @HarryHinch23 Před 5 měsíci +380

    Arguing that Romero is a liability & then putting Zinchenko forward is jokes, geeza is a shambles defensively

    • @waynesworld1088
      @waynesworld1088 Před 5 měsíci +10

      Romero is a Liability. and so is Udogie, bro literally has 7 yellows and a red in 16 games. that's a card every 2 games. horrendous

    • @HarryHinch23
      @HarryHinch23 Před 5 měsíci +10

      @@waynesworld1088 I agree he is a liability, but you can’t argue it for Romero then also want Zinchenko, he’s actually so bad at defending but folk just ignore cos he can invert & play a few nice passes

    • @gumby624
      @gumby624 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@waynesworld1088Udogie has a higher ceiling than all of those players. Change my mind.

    • @waynesworld1088
      @waynesworld1088 Před 5 měsíci +5

      they are both liabilities I agree, but I would 100% prefer zinchenkos liabilities cause if you have a good enough defender beside him i.e saliba or Gabriel they can clean up most of his mistakes, but Romero has 22 cards in 64 prem games!! that's actually insane for a CB, you surely can't pick Romeros liabilities over zinnys cause his would 9/10 times end in a pen or red card. its basically picking the lesser of the two evils@@HarryHinch23

    • @edenholt4394
      @edenholt4394 Před 5 měsíci +9

      I’m a City fan and I rate zinchenko but Udogie is much better at most the things you’d want from a fullback. Zinchenko would make a better midfielder but why should that matter when we’re rating left-backs

  • @ryanmcburney8224
    @ryanmcburney8224 Před 5 měsíci +233

    How can you create a team based on this season but then discount Spurs players because they have only played for Spurs this season?

  • @yvindstrand2356
    @yvindstrand2356 Před 5 měsíci +80

    This season.
    Spurs WITH Romero: 11 W, 2 D and 1 L. (Conceded 1 goal per game)
    Spurts WITHOUT 0 W, 1 D and 4 L. (Conceded 2.8 goals per game)

    • @Dean-vn8tn
      @Dean-vn8tn Před 5 měsíci

      romero shoulde've had 2 reds and has 1 and 4 yellows gabriel has 1 yellow

    • @donegal7
      @donegal7 Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@Dean-vn8tn so you're essentially saying that cos romero has less yellows hes a worse defender? this is a classic example of rival fans 'clutching at straws'. Why is Ramos held in such a high regard when he arguably has the worst discipline record for a defender in history? Cos his quality overrided his discipline. That's the same as Romero.

    • @Dean-vn8tn
      @Dean-vn8tn Před 5 měsíci

      @@donegal7 romero has more yellows and reds and that means his tackles weren't clean enough just like ramos if he can't do it according to the rules he foules

    • @Dean-vn8tn
      @Dean-vn8tn Před 5 měsíci

      @@donegal7 and ramos is probably on a higher regard cause he won trophies with his club not country

    • @robbpatterson6796
      @robbpatterson6796 Před 5 měsíci

      Bro, try watching football. Yeah he has a lot of cards; but in comparison, I'll take a booking over a goal. He is the perfect defender and I'd take him over any other CB in the prem. He puts everything into every tackle, or do you want an Eric Dier or Harry Maguire? Besides; when was your last major trophy? People piss on us, but you're at 2 decades now too. Joke of a club, more than Spurs as at least we know what we are. You guys are living off a piss poor league where no one could beat you...This seasons Everton would smash that Woolwich team@@Dean-vn8tn

  • @brendanconnellan
    @brendanconnellan Před 5 měsíci +64

    I normally agree with James but the ben white shout from him was poor, he knows how good Porro has been. Also if Romero is a liability, what the heck is Zinchenko?

    • @sebastiano728
      @sebastiano728 Před 5 měsíci +1

      I agree that Porro should be in over White, White's been poor this season. Zinchenko is something of a defensive liability, but sort of like Trent, his main job is his work in the midfield. Plus, Premier League champion. Having a liability as a centre-back is not great, and up until this bad run of form Arsenal have had in December, they were the best defence in the league, thanks to Saliba and Gabriel.

    • @eriknovotny3404
      @eriknovotny3404 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@sebastiano728well then Zinchenko should learn from Porro And Udogie. Cause their offensive output Is pretty similar (Porro' s Stats Are even better) And yet they can defend

  • @user-ke5hr
    @user-ke5hr Před 5 měsíci +525

    no way they've put ben white over porro

    • @achungtagru499
      @achungtagru499 Před 5 měsíci +70

      Yes they did and it is the right thing.

    • @MrPreachingCarrot
      @MrPreachingCarrot Před 5 měsíci +18

      He was fucking shite yesterday, Milner had him on strings

    • @Iam_andredan
      @Iam_andredan Před 5 měsíci +4

      I was surprise really. Romero makes the team also

    • @kevinatm3913
      @kevinatm3913 Před 5 měsíci +6

      I couldn’t finish the video after that

    • @comeon1503
      @comeon1503 Před 5 měsíci +30

      @@achungtagru499🤡🤡🤡 Porro has been like the best RB in the prem except trent

  • @babycarrot7256
    @babycarrot7256 Před 5 měsíci +73

    Amazing what 1 month can do since time of filming (Nov. 27). Spurs and Arsenal only separated by 1 point and the injury difference between the 2 squads is insane. Ange has got Spurs cooking.

    • @shimontanuki152
      @shimontanuki152 Před měsícem +8

      And 6 months later. the gaps between Arsenal and Spurs is 11 points. Ange cook absolute nothing.

    • @paulokello5981
      @paulokello5981 Před měsícem +7

      Difference currently 17 points 😮

    • @ashuwastaken
      @ashuwastaken Před měsícem

      cooking absolute cereal

    • @Chris-tc6ws
      @Chris-tc6ws Před 29 dny +2

      23 points. Hold that.

  • @joeh.7882
    @joeh.7882 Před 5 měsíci +86

    Zinchenko over Udogie?!?!
    No Kulu?!?!?
    No Porro!?!??
    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @shaun2463
      @shaun2463 Před 4 měsíci

      They couldn't pay me enough to sit down with an Arsenal fan and do something like this seriously. They're all thick as shit

    • @DogsterrKane
      @DogsterrKane Před 4 měsíci +2

      Udogie should be there and so should Porto but Kulusevski over Saka come on 😂

    • @Foos3yOW
      @Foos3yOW Před měsícem

      Saka is better than Kulu with his eyes closed, and Porro isn’t better than Ben White in any universe

  • @HailKaylin-zk6kr
    @HailKaylin-zk6kr Před 5 měsíci +78

    This is hilarious!!!! The disrespect to Tottenham is shambolic

    • @janil198611
      @janil198611 Před 5 měsíci

      They’re shit

    • @Foos3yOW
      @Foos3yOW Před měsícem +2

      Arsenal are simply better than Spurs in every regard. The disrespect is warranted

  • @kpstaner6463
    @kpstaner6463 Před 5 měsíci +26

    Did they forget that it was based on this season

  • @Jynz0
    @Jynz0 Před 5 měsíci +165

    This was a phenomenal episode 🤣 by far the best one of these
    But Flav was hard done by, for me Porro & Udogie both go in

    • @Dean-vn8tn
      @Dean-vn8tn Před 5 měsíci

      white and tomiyasu are better then porro and flav should've just said zinny can't defend as well as udogie

    • @robbpatterson6796
      @robbpatterson6796 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Yeah because Woolwich had more players, but player for player, there is no comparison. you'd have to be an idiot to think a fully fit woolwich team could beat a fully fit Spurs team. Just look at your shambolic keeper situation and the fact that you haven't got a consistent striker

    • @eriknovotny3404
      @eriknovotny3404 Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@@Dean-vn8tnhow Are they better?🤣 Pedro has 6 assists, 9 key chances created And 1,8 key passes per 90'. White And Tomiyasu couldnt get those numbers over the season combined.🤣 And Porro Is this season absolute unit in defense, he shows that you can be offensive inverted wing back And yet can defend (this cannot be said about Zinchenko🤣)

    • @Dean-vn8tn
      @Dean-vn8tn Před 4 měsíci

      @eriknovotny3404 assists aren't good arguments for a defender plus last couple matches tomiyasu was insane assist wise

    • @Dean-vn8tn
      @Dean-vn8tn Před 4 měsíci

      @eriknovotny3404 the problem with tomiyasu was he was very good defensively but not very good inverting and it's just a 2 g/a difference

  • @Liimmee
    @Liimmee Před 5 měsíci +75

    bro tried saying Bentancur is better Ødegaard. MAD.

    • @cfcbbrr9830
      @cfcbbrr9830 Před 5 měsíci +11

      Odegaard isn’t even all that…been around for 10 years and only had one good season in his whole career. No competitive international games or trophies either 😂😂

    • @richiecharger3423
      @richiecharger3423 Před 5 měsíci +8

      What has Ødegaard even achieve in football

    • @achungtagru499
      @achungtagru499 Před 5 měsíci +13

      @@cfcbbrr9830one good season? He has been consistently good throughout his career, He was the player of the season for Real Sociedad during his loan spell. Just because Modric and Kroos were in their prime Real Madrid had to sell him to Arsenal as no playing time was promised. Bentancur is no where near Odegaard. Stop hating and start appreciating even if you are rival fan. I am an Arsenal fan and I love Son and VDV.

    • @BestInTheWorld13x
      @BestInTheWorld13x Před 5 měsíci

      @@cfcbbrr9830 ur so uneducated💀

    • @ygty_cr2670
      @ygty_cr2670 Před 5 měsíci +4

      @@cfcbbrr983010 years? So ur comparing him when he was 16 years old… sort ur head out mate no one knows who bentencur is mate 🤣🤣

  • @yeonlee5
    @yeonlee5 Před 4 měsíci +4

    Current form + somewhat overall, but who I would take rn:
    GK: Vicario. No debate
    RB: Ben White. Porro is currently better this season, but I think White is honestly underrated. He's a better defender and can get up front and put in decent work. Porro is not slouch in defending, but I think White edges it on that department by some good distance (attacking-wise it's Porro, but I'm taking White)
    CB: Saliba. Right sided centerback is Saliba. No debate, as much as I love Romero, Saliba is a lot better on the ball and especially with composure
    CB: Van De Ven. In a short space of time, VDV has been top 3 defenders this season. I'm genuinely surprised on how well he settled.
    LB: Udogie. Zivchenko at City was great. Zivchenko at Arsenal is patchy and is honestly more of a defensive liability. Udogie is the best leftback in the league rn.
    CDM: Rice. He gets in. No debate
    CDM: Sarr. Bissouma was great until he got that red and then he started to be somewhat patchy. Bentancur just came back. Partey did his hamstring but he was great last season, but there's no gurantee that in-form Partey will be back. Havertz is not getting in. Sarr has been so under the radar. His work rate is one of the highest at Spurs, both defensively and offensively
    CAM: Maddison. Odegaard last season was phenomenal. But somehow Maddison when he was playing before the Chelsea injury surpassed the performance of last season Odegaard. Odegaard this season seems indecisive at the final third at times, but no doubt these two have quality on the ball. But if it wasn't the injury, Maddison would've been player of the season. Taking Madders on this one, but it's up for debate
    RW: Saka. As good as Kulu is, Saka last season and even this season at times is ridiculous. His stats aren't as great this season vs last season, but he still gets a lot done to create chances for others.
    ST: Son. Jesus has technique, but he and Nketiah have one thing in common and it's that they cannot finish off their chances. Son is probably the best finisher (I'm not saying striker cuz that's Henry, Suarez, Shearer, Kane etc.) in the history of EPL if you see his Xg vs goal tallies he has, it's ridiculous. No debate here.
    LW: Martinelli. Because Saka is so good, I think opponents sometimes forget how good Martinelli is. I honestly like him better because he seems more direct on the ball. Even when other Arsenal players aren't performing, he seems to just say screw this, I'll create chances myself and more often than not, he does create a lot of good chances.

  • @fifty-five6929
    @fifty-five6929 Před 5 měsíci +35

    Zinchenko in this team is hilarious 😂

    • @Dean-vn8tn
      @Dean-vn8tn Před 5 měsíci

      and its Flav his own fault🤣

    • @fifty-five6929
      @fifty-five6929 Před 5 měsíci

      @@Dean-vn8tn ik but come on man it shouldn't have even been a conversation 😂

    • @Dean-vn8tn
      @Dean-vn8tn Před 5 měsíci

      @@fifty-five6929 but it is so a win is a win

  • @adityalfc
    @adityalfc Před 5 měsíci +33

    Udogie and porro get in. Im not a spurs or an arsenal fan as an outsider I can see that Ben white is anonymous in crucial games. Porro can also score goals and is faster a better passer. Udogie Im sorry but this kid is better defensively than Zinbloodychenco The midfield is fair odegaard has to be in here. also van de ven has been transformational for spurs. He is a good player But Saliba and gabriel are a great defensive pairing and so i can agree on that but Porro is better than white and Udogie at 21 is still better than Zinchenko

    • @SJMacca
      @SJMacca Před 5 měsíci

      LMFAO, never read so much shite in my life! stick to cricket kid

    • @Ciilow24
      @Ciilow24 Před 5 měsíci

      Arsenal fan here. I don’t watch Spurs playing to be honest because they’re not threat to us, but I agree with you any fullbacks are better than white and Ziny also agree with you Odegaard is better player than any spurs player another than Son

    • @kurtsudheim825
      @kurtsudheim825 Před 5 měsíci

      He's not anonymous, his rile is just very simple, idk if he could, but he's there to support ska & Martin Ø, so he isn't going to get to shine

    • @kurtsudheim825
      @kurtsudheim825 Před 5 měsíci

      It's about the argument, & flav didn't argue well for them. Udigie yes, Ben vs pp is a tougher call

    • @marcus8030
      @marcus8030 Před 5 měsíci

      @@kurtsudheim825It’s not even close. What Porro is doing this season is actually crazy. Defensively especially he’s taking.

  • @JamesLawrenceAllcott
    @JamesLawrenceAllcott Před 5 měsíci +29

    Flav still hasn’t forgiven me 😮

    • @ntandomagida8836
      @ntandomagida8836 Před 5 měsíci +17

      You had an absolute stinker...porro...udogie and Ven de Van have to be in it

    • @simplychaff1875
      @simplychaff1875 Před 5 měsíci +6

      Good. Bullshit

    • @magik410
      @magik410 Před 5 měsíci

      I hope you quit making footy content u pander to arsenal fans. I said it last time and you even responded under my comment trying to deny it and low and behold he's right back at it. Full time clown.

    • @rishivaja9288
      @rishivaja9288 Před 5 měsíci +5

      Rightly so! Ask Arsenal fans who they want to replace in their team and they will all point to the blond rat at LB. Udogie has been a revelation in his first season aged 21. I don't know how this was even a discussion.
      Porro has the same number of assists as Saka this season. And you want to put Arsenal's RB, who plays for a team who have been struggling to score, over Porro?! Madness

    • @jackl1964
      @jackl1964 Před 5 měsíci +4

      Honestly one of the worst things I’ve seen 😂 taking a page from that Tory Rory’s book with being controversial for clicks. Shameful

  • @johncole4021
    @johncole4021 Před měsícem +4

    These ben white disses really didnt go well 😂

  • @utopia9606
    @utopia9606 Před 5 měsíci +67

    Other than putting Zinchenko instead of Udogie, I’m pretty on board with that combined 11 squad.
    Zinchenko has been poor defensively this season.

    • @user-bb6hg2rz5b
      @user-bb6hg2rz5b Před 5 měsíci +2

      True, but he made Arsenal tick for a large part of last season. If Udogie was putting in similair game-changing performances either defensively/offensively, it would be up for greater debate. Issue is that Udogie is not sound enough either way to put him ahead of Zinchenko.
      That said, Zinny has been dead as this season. lmao.

    • @kurtsudheim825
      @kurtsudheim825 Před 5 měsíci

      Ya, but its based in the argument & flav didn't give a real one

    • @ACE360x
      @ACE360x Před 5 měsíci

      Zinny has dropped off massively, we'd be playing so much better with timber or tomi. Martinelli dropping super deep and Gabriel having to cover so much space...
      Big up Gabriel

    • @Dean-vn8tn
      @Dean-vn8tn Před 5 měsíci

      and keeping possession

    • @mumrouykcus3547
      @mumrouykcus3547 Před 5 měsíci +5

      @@user-bb6hg2rz5byou’re waffling i can tell you haven’t actually watched any tottenham games, udogie has been great on both ends

  • @lloyd.7003
    @lloyd.7003 Před 5 měsíci +22

    from an arsenal fan perspective, udogie and porro definitely get in ahead of white and zinchenko easily,even kulusevski has been putting up decent no's

    • @ACE360x
      @ACE360x Před 5 měsíci

      This season maybe but zinny has history. Also, I think Kulu is class but when you're against martinelli and saka it's a long day

    • @marcus8030
      @marcus8030 Před 5 měsíci +3

      @@ACE360xZinny has history of being a bum. He might be the guy that ensures you don’t win the league

    • @joeygb6657
      @joeygb6657 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@ACE360x2G 2A for martinelli in what 18/19 games isn’t really a long day

    • @eriknovotny3404
      @eriknovotny3404 Před 4 měsíci +1

      ​@@ACE360xbut its this season, And you mean The Martinelli with 2+2?🤣 Richi And Kulu Are better than him...

  • @csstimy
    @csstimy Před 5 měsíci +21

    maddison > ødegård
    porro > ben white
    romero > gabriel
    udogie > zinchenko
    and at the end of the season we'll have
    deki > saka
    and van de ven > saliba too

    • @ianmakupe6826
      @ianmakupe6826 Před 5 měsíci

      Interesting

    • @Piero_678
      @Piero_678 Před 4 měsíci

      For the end of the season, in your dreams maybe.

  • @kylegill4932
    @kylegill4932 Před 5 měsíci +20

    Mixing both teams just makes the bottling twice as certain 🤭

  • @Balec18
    @Balec18 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Vicario, Porro, Saliba, Gabriel, Udogie, Rice, Odegaard, Maddison, Saka, Son, Martinelli

  • @matttompkin2873
    @matttompkin2873 Před 5 měsíci +5

    Arsenal fan and here - My combined XI
    Vicario
    White Saliba Garbriel Udogie
    Rice
    Maddison Odergard
    Saka Jesus Son

    • @buckladd
      @buckladd Před 5 měsíci +1

      You'd put Jesus in the middle over Martinelli on the left? That's a bit outrageous mate, I can't believe I'm doing this as a Spurs fan but Martinelli gets in and Jesus doesn't, Martinelli is pure quality and Jesus literally said that his strength isn't scoring goes when he literally plays in a N9 position!

    • @Brillurinn
      @Brillurinn Před 5 měsíci

      @@buckladdwould be so much fun to put together a combined XI of Arsenal and Spurs if both teams had fully fit squads, wish I’d been able to see Timber play this season. As an Arsenal fan, Zinchenko doesn’t get in the starting XI whether Timber is fit or not, such a liability at the back. Udogie would be clear… but makes me wonder how easy it would be to put Timber in there if he’d been playing all season

    • @Brillurinn
      @Brillurinn Před 5 měsíci +1

      And I honestly don’t know why James was so shocked when Tomiyasu was brought up. Tomi is so underrated and disrespected. For me, I’d put Tomi ahead of Zinny and White, whether it’s LB or RB. He’s a 🧱 brick. Had Salah in his pocket last season at Emirates and I haven’t seen a winger take him on 1 v 1

    • @Brillurinn
      @Brillurinn Před 5 měsíci

      Well aside from last season when he came on and wasn’t fully fit yet, he was rushed back into the team. Was easy to see that he wasn’t quite himself

    • @comeon1503
      @comeon1503 Před 5 měsíci

      Porro instead of white and Richarlison over Jesus

  • @kriissyy09ify
    @kriissyy09ify Před 5 měsíci +12

    Vicario
    White-Saliba-Gabriel-Udogie
    Rice
    Maddison-Odegaard
    Saka-Son-Martinelli
    4 Spurs players is generous as well. Spurs will celebrate losing 4-2, while Arsenal are competing for a title.

    • @BestInTheWorld13x
      @BestInTheWorld13x Před 5 měsíci +1

      Sm1 with a brain 👏🏾

    • @gregorybogdanski3550
      @gregorybogdanski3550 Před 5 měsíci

      White doesn’t get a sniff

    • @Therealgaz619
      @Therealgaz619 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Facts

    • @joshhayden9108
      @joshhayden9108 Před 5 měsíci

      Spurs are bad yet only 1 point behind title contenders? Make it make sense

    • @eldante4139
      @eldante4139 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Only one point behind and yet have been hit massively by injuries last 2 months. And celebrate losing 4-2?! When?

  • @Winshallah
    @Winshallah Před 5 měsíci +35

    If you can't tell that Flav is shamelessly trolling. you're beyond help.

  • @hifyn
    @hifyn Před 5 měsíci +1

    im curious when exactly this was filmed

  • @EdwinTStanley
    @EdwinTStanley Před 5 měsíci +2

    Can't believe he didn't stand up to welcome them.

  • @ndkn3471
    @ndkn3471 Před 5 měsíci +5

    He can run in a straight line…. 😂😂😂

  • @user-fn9dk3cw8e
    @user-fn9dk3cw8e Před 5 měsíci

    Can we do this at the end of the season and see which team to have more players in the 11

  • @vixthunderboy6481
    @vixthunderboy6481 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Based on this season, as a Tottenham supporter:
    GK : Vicario
    LB : Udogie
    CBs : Vandeven and Saliba
    RB : Porro
    DM : Rice
    CMs : Odegaard and Madders
    LW : Sonny
    RW : Saka
    ST : Eddie Nketiah

    • @jovanvranes8038
      @jovanvranes8038 Před 4 měsíci

      nketiah 😂😂😂 twerking for the opposition

  • @monty9740
    @monty9740 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Man said bentancur ahahahaha

  • @joshrogers1
    @joshrogers1 Před 5 měsíci +17

    james and flav are the best duo on youtube, any excuse to see them on screen more.

    • @kurtsudheim825
      @kurtsudheim825 Před 5 měsíci

      Jes is the best football ut out there. Flav is a tossed, can necer not be biased & just moans like a baby, & recently learnt hea quite old (nearly 40)

    • @ACE360x
      @ACE360x Před 5 měsíci +3

      ​@kurtsudheim825 oh, so he's entertaining and has said many times that he's a wind up merchant. Guess you're not getting a nosh this year mate

  • @AbdulBari-tx4qt
    @AbdulBari-tx4qt Před 5 měsíci +2

    dont support either but thats pathetic spurs got unfairly violated here....

  • @mestersvend1210
    @mestersvend1210 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Flav you need to step up your debate game, this was tough to watch

  • @haydnnorton679
    @haydnnorton679 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I like Flav; He seems a likeable guy, has enough ball knowledge to enjoy a few pints up the pub and watch Spurs with. But I don't think I've EVER seen him win a debate on here or on Saturday Social. For the love of god, Zinchenko over Udogie and Gabriel over Romero OR VDV is horrendous!! Don't even get me started on Pedro Porro or even Richarlison not getting into this team.....The man cannot debate.

  • @garyrobertson9534
    @garyrobertson9534 Před 5 měsíci +9

    Ben white last season I would’ve said yes 💯. He’s nowhere near the same form. Porro all day for me

  • @BohemianRaichu
    @BohemianRaichu Před 5 měsíci +1

    No Udogie is outrageous.

  • @OvO.edddy14
    @OvO.edddy14 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Based on this season i would even shouted out tomiyasu for either flank of the fullback positions. Suck a brick in defence

  • @swiftlyph1358
    @swiftlyph1358 Před 5 měsíci

    Is it just me or didn’t they upload this video couple weeks back

  • @dylanmulroe9978
    @dylanmulroe9978 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Vicario White Gabriel Saliba Udogie Rice Maddison Odegaard Martinelli Son Saka

  • @user-ql4hz9wu5l
    @user-ql4hz9wu5l Před 5 měsíci +1

    Man said Kane was better Henry

  • @EightiesDoubtProductions
    @EightiesDoubtProductions Před 5 měsíci +4

    Flav is on fire here 😂🙌

  • @jesseandrew4242
    @jesseandrew4242 Před 4 měsíci

    As a Liverpool supporter and based off of this season i'd much prefer to have Udogie and Porro over White and Zinchenko with a midfield 3 of Rice, Maddison and Bentancur(most balanced 3/best in their respective positions)

  • @shurikenzfrenzy3651
    @shurikenzfrenzy3651 Před 5 měsíci +1

    lol good vid

  • @umair5940
    @umair5940 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I like Turkish but he constantly brought up 12 games argument which was really reductive. The technical quality of a player can be seen in 12 games plus if you're just going by games then why have an argument at all.

  • @kurtsudheim825
    @kurtsudheim825 Před 5 měsíci

    To clear this up because im tired of hearing it, Ben white didn't "HATE" soccer, he just doesn't watch a lot of games at home, doesnt play fifa etc, he diesnt live fir the game like some of our heroes did. He comes from a rugby family, he ended up playing & was good, trained hard. He still likes playing, hes just not a super fan. Bae only played for money, he wanted to quite, he had absolutely no love for the game, bit if a difference.

  • @stuartmcmillan9004
    @stuartmcmillan9004 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Sorry Flav, at the end of the 2022/23 season Arsenal finished 24 points above Spurs, scored 18 more goals and conceded 20 fewer goals and Arsenal are probably going to finish above Spurs this season. No way should 8 Spurs players be in this team. There should be 5 at most.

    • @aayamshrestha
      @aayamshrestha Před 5 měsíci

      Read the title of the video.

    • @stuartmcmillan9004
      @stuartmcmillan9004 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@aayamshrestha Yes I read the title of the video but the squads of 22/23 to 23/24 are not massive wholesale changes for both clubs so it is natural to look at players and how they performed in the 22/23 season. However, going by the title of the video, given that after 19 games, I know the video was filmed in late November, Spurs have conceded 10 more goals than Arsenal. For Flav to think that the back 4 should have 3 Spurs players is laughable. His argument about Strikers and goals scored must apply to defenders and goals conceded.

  • @granth1238
    @granth1238 Před 5 měsíci +7

    The correct answer:
    Martinelli | Son | Saka
    Rice | Maddison
    Bissouma
    Udogie | Van de Ven | Saliba | Porro
    Vicario

    • @timiokuboyejo2580
      @timiokuboyejo2580 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Why are spurs 5th if they have 6 better players in their starting 11???

    • @granth1238
      @granth1238 Před 5 měsíci

      @@timiokuboyejo2580 because its a team sport, thats made up of 11 players, not 6.

    • @sagacity7819
      @sagacity7819 Před 5 měsíci +1

      There’s no way you believe 7 spurs players get into the Arsenal starting 11 😂😂😂

    • @granth1238
      @granth1238 Před 5 měsíci

      @@sagacity7819 well maybe Odegaard instead of Maddison and Gabriel due to their injuries. But Odegaard not been as good this season. But Vicario had better season than Raya. Porro been better than White, although White was better last season. Udogie been better than Zinchenko, who's been so poor defensively this season. Rice not really playing as a 6, more of an 8, and with Partey injured, it has to be Bissouma at the base. Then Son has like 16 goal contributions, been far better than Jesus or Nketiah. So where's your problems?

    • @sagacity7819
      @sagacity7819 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@granth1238 i just don’t see the logic as to why 7 spurs players would get into the Arsenal team.. Arsenal have a superior defensive record this season yet apparently only Saliba gets into a combined 11 😅. Son, Vicario, udogie are the only spurs players who get into the arsenal team

  • @LiamJM10
    @LiamJM10 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Quite sensational how badly this has aged in just 6 weeks. Rare Alcott L.

  • @stantonlloyd6383
    @stantonlloyd6383 Před 5 měsíci

    Held on to this video for over a month??

  • @LusoTrapo
    @LusoTrapo Před 5 měsíci +1

    Pretty accurate shame about the keeper

  • @Foreverfooty7
    @Foreverfooty7 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Turkish said gabriel was English 😂😂

  • @silverbale9473
    @silverbale9473 Před 5 měsíci +8

    Van den ven, porro, udogie, vicario,son and maddison makes this team if you're judging based on this season..

    • @zzzjjj8774
      @zzzjjj8774 Před 5 měsíci

      Wow so many good player 😂 still can't make top 4? Overrated shits except son.

    • @zzzjjj8774
      @zzzjjj8774 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Vicario and son I may agree but the rest of them😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @zzzjjj8774
      @zzzjjj8774 Před 5 měsíci

      If so many good players, why below arsenal?😂

    • @silverbale9473
      @silverbale9473 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Are you blind or you don't see that we have injury crisis take out Rice, Saliba, odegaard , Gabriel and let's see where arsenal will be...

    • @eldante4139
      @eldante4139 Před 5 měsíci

      Spurs have been massively hit by injuries for 2 months. During which time neither VDV nor Maddidon have been available and yet Spurs are only ONE point below Arsenal. Had the injury crisis not occurred then Spurs would NOT be below Arsenal.

  • @ThatGuyAlly
    @ThatGuyAlly Před 6 dny

    The receipts are crazy

  • @1234monne
    @1234monne Před 5 měsíci

    Flav forgot to bring up stats after this dude used it as an argument for Oodegard. Son, Richy, Pedro should all be fielded based off of stats.

  • @billywillis1358
    @billywillis1358 Před měsícem +2

    Ben White isnt mobile enough seriously flav spurs biased mate don't get me wrong porro is gd defender but nowhere near better than Ben White I'd give Spurs Maddison Udogie Son and Vicario that is it

  • @BestInTheWorld13x
    @BestInTheWorld13x Před 5 měsíci +1

    With all due respect, I expect Turkish to settle this starting 11 debate lmao

  • @tevin_maestrolive
    @tevin_maestrolive Před 5 měsíci +1

    The host clearly has zero ball knowledge!

  • @Iam_andredan
    @Iam_andredan Před 5 měsíci +2

    How is white better than Porro as a right back. What is this???

  • @Jimbobiscuit
    @Jimbobiscuit Před 5 měsíci

    I will always love Flav but my word does he make it difficult to.

  • @mikebeast8582
    @mikebeast8582 Před 5 měsíci

    Why do u upload videos a month later...

  • @christtofari3331
    @christtofari3331 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Being a spurs fan is actually an illness, my friend is adamant that skipp and Ben Davies are great players 😂

    • @joshhayden9108
      @joshhayden9108 Před 5 měsíci +3

      Eh davies is a good squad player. Been our best defender this season due to injuries and suspensions and we are still 5th. Not saying he is a starter but a good rotation player

  • @bashmandown2246
    @bashmandown2246 Před 5 měsíci

    Someone get flav a pair of trousers that fit him please!

  • @user-pq6up8pu7z
    @user-pq6up8pu7z Před 4 měsíci

    I haven't finished watching yet (im at 13 min) and there's no way they discuss the full backs for 9 OF THE 21 minutes of the vid

  • @Llo834
    @Llo834 Před 5 měsíci +3

    Romero is leagues better than Gabriel

  • @benji7782
    @benji7782 Před 5 měsíci

    Is that Flav???!!!

  • @kyledawson1657
    @kyledawson1657 Před 5 měsíci

    Why is it labeled a 23/24 team, but the current season isn't being taken into account. Maddison has been much better than Odegaard and he's been injured for months. Romero and Van De Ven have been better than Gabriel this season. Pedro Porro and Udogie have to be in. Come on. There's a reason Spurs were top when healthy.

  • @Foos3yOW
    @Foos3yOW Před 5 měsíci +12

    Romero is not better than Gabriel. He is a liability to Spurs a lot of the time. In terms of ability, it’s close, but Gabriel is way more reliable

    • @tali_1253
      @tali_1253 Před 5 měsíci +18

      yes we saw that yesterday getting beaten to a header Gabriel is a liability and arsenal won't win anything with him so hopefully he stays still he retires

    • @coasters4life388
      @coasters4life388 Před 5 měsíci +10

      @@tali_1253zero ball knowledge

    • @BestInTheWorld13x
      @BestInTheWorld13x Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@coasters4life388 don't bother with rival fans like him. Just laugh at their stupid comments

    • @Iam_andredan
      @Iam_andredan Před 5 měsíci

      What’s his liability?

    • @coasters4life388
      @coasters4life388 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@Iam_andredan uhhhhh have you seen the number of yellow cards and red cards he gets

  • @martinfoss3788
    @martinfoss3788 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I cant believe this guy is representing us as spurs fans

    • @mzwash8933
      @mzwash8933 Před 5 měsíci +1

      We need strong guys to represent the fanbase

  • @TP-pq9xx
    @TP-pq9xx Před 5 měsíci +8

    Son - Jesus - Saka
    Bissouma - Rice - Maddison
    Udogie - VDV - Saliba - Porro
    Vicario

  • @timhansejordet9056
    @timhansejordet9056 Před 5 měsíci +1

    The Spurs fan sucks at explaining himself unfortunately.

  • @DylanChe19
    @DylanChe19 Před 5 měsíci

    This is going to be a painful watch. Why am I doing this to myself?

  • @xXTHEPHILLIPXx
    @xXTHEPHILLIPXx Před 4 měsíci

    In January, the correct starting 11:
    Vicario
    Porro
    VDV or Romero (debatable)
    Saliba
    Udogue
    Rice
    Maddison
    Bentancur
    Son
    Richarlison (on form)
    Kulusevski (on this season, otherwise Saka)

  • @dannyhodorowski5847
    @dannyhodorowski5847 Před 4 měsíci

    This is stupid. It should be from the start of 2023-2024 season. Turkish is talking about last campaign where they capitulated whereas half of Spurs current starters weren't even on the pitch.

  • @vballtrojan8
    @vballtrojan8 Před 5 měsíci +5

    It would be interesting to do this at the end of the season based on season body of work. Guaranteed more Tottenham players than Arsenal.

  • @rishivaja9288
    @rishivaja9288 Před 5 měsíci

    A years time? Wait till the end of 2023. Imagine where Arsenal would be if they lost the players Spurs have lost. No Gabriel, no Saliba, no Rice, no Odegaard. Would they be only 1 point above this Spurs team? I dont think so...

  • @MelanctonYates
    @MelanctonYates Před 5 měsíci

    Some of these picks were SO bad that they had to edit in the date of recording. Zinchenko over Udogie, White over Porro, and Gabriel over Romero. YIKES.

  • @oneilblake8400
    @oneilblake8400 Před 4 měsíci

    Gabriel over Romero is ridiculous. This video hasn't aged too well for Turkish.

  • @matthewjohnson4402
    @matthewjohnson4402 Před 5 měsíci

    Perisic did not get 11 prem assists last year 😂😂😂

  • @Iam_andredan
    @Iam_andredan Před 5 měsíci +3

    It’s Romero over Gabriel everyday of the week

  • @jamiethwaites4729
    @jamiethwaites4729 Před 4 měsíci

    Why even do this, people are so biased
    We should do it based on this season
    Vicario, Porro, Udogie, Saliba, Gabriel (only because VDV got injured), Rice, Bissouma, Maddison, Martinelli, Son...argument for Kulu v Saka based on this season but I'd pick Saka

  • @sambren429
    @sambren429 Před měsícem

    bro 3 spurs players out of 11 thats crazy. JUST MAD what were they thinking with ben white over porro

    • @TTGvision
      @TTGvision Před měsícem +1

      try to win some games first

  • @jackcampion3838
    @jackcampion3838 Před 2 měsíci

    With hindsight spurs only get udogie,Maddison,son and maybe the goalkeeper

  • @JJJackson777
    @JJJackson777 Před 4 měsíci

    Zinchenko's sleep paralysis demon is just Destiny Udogie

  • @younglampost1058
    @younglampost1058 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Spurs fans are a different breed man, they become somewhat decent again and lose all composure

    • @EdwinTStanley
      @EdwinTStanley Před 5 měsíci +5

      No way man.
      Spurs has been extremely good.
      There's no way that many Arsenal defenders get in.
      Actually I'll only play Saliba

    • @eldante4139
      @eldante4139 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Arsenal have finished in the top 4 ONCE since 2016. Wouldn’t shock me if they didn’t get top four this season the way that they are playing. And yet suddenly they’re massively overrated for doing what?!

    • @EdwinTStanley
      @EdwinTStanley Před 5 měsíci

      @@eldante4139 😅

  • @andrewking563
    @andrewking563 Před 5 měsíci

    The first choice back 4 is Udogie, Saliba, Romero, Porro
    Arsenal have way more depth at the back but it just picks itself

    • @jovanvranes8038
      @jovanvranes8038 Před 4 měsíci

      do they? davies and royal as CBs have kept up with arsenal, arsenal without saliba fall off a cliff

  • @ZPSBestProfileName
    @ZPSBestProfileName Před 5 měsíci

    8:10. Henry has more goals per game than Kane in the PL, let alone assists where he has double Kane's.

    • @jovanvranes8038
      @jovanvranes8038 Před 4 měsíci

      what a carefully written comment 😂 kane has 38 more goals, henry has 28 more assists. kane is better

  • @stuartmcmillan9004
    @stuartmcmillan9004 Před 3 měsíci

    Now approximately two thirds into the season (25 games)and I bet there are still Spurs fans who think this combined 11 should have more Spurs players. Sorry, Arsenal have conceded 16 goals less than Spurs and have scored 6 more and are 8 points clear at time of writing. There is a reason there are more Arsenal players because Arsenal are a better team than Spurs. Well done Spurs for finishing above Arsenal for 6 seasons despite Arsenal having more success in that 6 years than Spurs have had since the Premier League started in August 1992. I can't see Spurs finishing above Arsenal now for the rest of this decade 16 seasons without a trophy and counting.

  • @fault.
    @fault. Před 5 měsíci +1

    Martinelli Son Saka
    Rice Maddison Odegaard
    Udogie Saliba Gabriel Porro
    Easy ✅

  • @seancronin11
    @seancronin11 Před 2 měsíci

    stats this season?
    MO 9G 7A
    JM 4G 7A
    … and odegaard sits in first place

  • @BORDERSSAFARISTRAVEL
    @BORDERSSAFARISTRAVEL Před 5 měsíci

    WATCHING LIVE FROM 🇰🇪🇰🇪🎄🇰🇪🎄🇰🇪🎄 KENYA 🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪🇰🇪

  • @joshuajones6931
    @joshuajones6931 Před 4 měsíci

    Correct answer: Vicario, Porro, Romero, Saliba, Udogie, Rice, Madders, Odegaard, Kulu, Son, Saka

  • @alberlusconi1
    @alberlusconi1 Před 5 měsíci

    Vicario, Saliba, Romero, Udogie, Porro, rice, Maddison, Odergaard, Son, Jesus, Saka

  • @Dean-vn8tn
    @Dean-vn8tn Před 5 měsíci

    gabriel maghalaes 1 yellow romero 4 yellows and 1 red card but should be 2

  • @bhavaneshcb4205
    @bhavaneshcb4205 Před 5 měsíci

    Ben white over porro - you are blind
    Udogie is better than zinchenko as ' left back'
    Bissouma, Rice, maddison is the correct midfield
    Forward line is the only corrct thing that you guys have done in this combined x1

  • @vineetposani97
    @vineetposani97 Před 5 měsíci +1

    This is the problem with Spurs fans. They think they are bigger than they actually are lol

    • @PyroMiniYak
      @PyroMiniYak Před 5 měsíci

      It’s because rival fans can’t stand how Tottenham sneaked their way into being a big club with a large fanbase without having the silverware that other clubs NEED to keep their fickle fanbase.

    • @thf3038
      @thf3038 Před 5 měsíci +2

      That's rich coming from arsenal. They go on like they are bayern or real or barca when they have never won a european cup, have a pitiful record in europe (worse than tottenham's) and most of their league titles came in the 30s and 40s.

    • @eldante4139
      @eldante4139 Před 5 měsíci

      More of an Arsenal problem. They think they’re great in spite of only finishing top 4 ONCE since 2016. Last season was the first season since 2016 that Arsenal finished above Spurs. One season in seven. And yet suddenly Arsenal supporters talk like they’ve always been the better team during that time.

  • @simonjames772
    @simonjames772 Před 5 měsíci

    i think you have to use 3-1-4-2

  • @chrismiller6317
    @chrismiller6317 Před měsícem

    I’m a life long GOONER but no way can you put Zinny over Odogie at left back

  • @nato9057
    @nato9057 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Could you have at least tried to get an Arsenal fan who watches spurs games. this guy clearly has no idea of any of the spurs players abilities. only siding with Arsenal players because its his team. do better next time please

  • @eriknovotny3404
    @eriknovotny3404 Před 4 měsíci

    Its funny how Partey is the best, but isnt picked over Havertz🤣🤣. Also Martinelli with 2+2... Richi should be up top and Son at right wing...
    And the defence... Ben White is closer to Emerson, than to Porro. Porro is better forward than Zinchenko and can defend, what more do you want...

  • @robbpatterson6796
    @robbpatterson6796 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Don't worry guys. According to this, Woolwich have already won the league and Spurs are getting relegated. Absolute delusion. Let's just say that Jesus is a better striker than Son right now XD