TOP 5 MOST UNDERWHELMING PLAYERS OF THE SEASON RANKED!

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  • čas přidán 15. 05. 2024
  • @RoryJenningsFootball, @TurkishLDN, @sugashaun and Flex @UnitedViewTV rank the Top 5 most underwhelming players in the Premier League this season on the latest episode of The Playlist.
    00:00 Coming up
    01:33 Top 5s revealed
    02:31 Did Arsenal fans overhype Gabriel Martinelli?
    05:14 Does Moises Caicedo have better metrics than Declan Rice?
    08:55 Is Pep Guardiola to blame for Erling Haaland's drop off?
    15:12 Did Mason Mount make a mistake joining Man Utd?
    18:35 Has Rasmus Hojlund been underwhelming?
    24:47 How does Hojlund compare to Nicolas Jackson?
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  • @888sport
    @888sport  Před 19 dny +5

    Who's been the most underwhelming player in the Premier League this season? Tell us in the comments!

  • @famalam1595
    @famalam1595 Před 19 dny +96

    Rory on caicedo “you can’t hold the price tag against him”
    What did he say about arsenal spending 70m on havertz

    • @charliejordan7033
      @charliejordan7033 Před 19 dny +3

      But it’s his 2nd big price tag and has a lot of experience at this stage

    • @dpatel3388
      @dpatel3388 Před 19 dny +12

      @@charliejordan7033 he didnt choose his price tag

    • @charliejordan7033
      @charliejordan7033 Před 19 dny

      @@dpatel3388 oh Jesus Christ nobody does, what’s your point? 🤣

    • @manunited1235
      @manunited1235 Před 19 dny +1

      @@dpatel3388next think think before you speak.

    • @MRBp2024
      @MRBp2024 Před 19 dny +11

      @@charliejordan7033 Havertz cost 60m.
      That's less then Szoboszlai (70m), Caicedo (115m), Hojlund (70m), Doku (65m).
      Havertz has outperformed all of them.
      Szoboszlai has had a disaster season who went off the boil after 5 games.

  • @darwinsantos3446
    @darwinsantos3446 Před 19 dny +123

    “Caicedo got Better metrics than rice “ bro partey made that guy do the splits with that dummy 😂

    • @Mago_7
      @Mago_7 Před 19 dny +20

      I mean do these chelsea fans live here?? On earth?? Like what??

    • @usm4n992
      @usm4n992 Před 19 dny +11

      Ironic how you guys aren't showing any intelligence either, people aren't saying that Caicedo is better than Rice, but with those stats they actually mean something and suggest he's a lot better than people say. Read between the lines people.

    • @Family20202
      @Family20202 Před 19 dny +3

      Lol

    • @melo4931
      @melo4931 Před 19 dny +1

      Thats the last time we see this fella on the show😂

    • @eetuhietanen3848
      @eetuhietanen3848 Před 19 dny +12

      ​@@usm4n992what stats? He just said caiceido's metrics are better than rice's but didnt name them. He could be chatting rubbish and you are falling for it.

  • @maringunner3821
    @maringunner3821 Před 19 dny +114

    Erling Haaland? This Rory guy is still upset because last season his prediction was the most laughable thing itw

    • @Ali-fb5km
      @Ali-fb5km Před 19 dny +16

      Hes right ish

    • @maringunner3821
      @maringunner3821 Před 19 dny +13

      @@Ali-fb5km being a top scorer in the prem is most likely not being underwhelming

    • @hamzaafc06
      @hamzaafc06 Před 19 dny +10

      @@maringunner3821he has been underwhelming by definition though. It’s not crazy to say people expected far more from him than just scoring a bunch of tap ins this season. He has pretty much ghosted every important game, and his performances aside from scoring an unimportant goal in an already comfortable game has been underwhelming. It’s not unfair to hold a world class talent to a different standard

    • @thetruth4654
      @thetruth4654 Před 19 dny +1

      @@hamzaafc06 scoring tap ins are hard, if it was easy every striker in the world would score at the levels that Haaland normally does, but majority of all time great strikers score far less then him.
      By this logic though, Harry Kane isn`t world class either.
      he ghosts in big games for club and country consistently.

    • @Ali-fb5km
      @Ali-fb5km Před 19 dny

      @@maringunner3821 watch him with your EYES

  • @FootballMatters836
    @FootballMatters836 Před 19 dny +48

    Turkish's handwriting is clean!!

    • @40yearoldvirgil15
      @40yearoldvirgil15 Před 18 dny +6

      I was about to say this. Looks like a font on Word 😂

    • @yessi1585
      @yessi1585 Před 18 dny +2

      Was thinking that, my goat

  • @denzz2778
    @denzz2778 Před 19 dny +68

    People say halaand like he isn’t the top scorer and been out through injury for months😂

    • @kieranj1332
      @kieranj1332 Před 19 dny +4

      Still been absolute trash, he has the best front 3 and 2 behind in the world. Any striker city have will 9/10 be top scorer

    • @kattphatt
      @kattphatt Před 19 dny +1

      @@kieranj1332 Absolute trash and top score means everyone who isn't on more goals has been worse.

    • @kieranj1332
      @kieranj1332 Před 19 dny

      @@kattphatt well that’s bullocks, Cole palmer and Watkins are below him and far better than him. Haaland having the same season as salah, bar the goals completely average

    • @dasurmel1424
      @dasurmel1424 Před 18 dny +1

      @@kieranj1332 you can say the same about most strikers. cr7 never created shit f.e. still nobody cares.

    • @Dasni12
      @Dasni12 Před 18 dny

      Haaland can't even dribble or kick a ball properly

  • @Adetk
    @Adetk Před 19 dny +11

    Notice that the only person on there that did not defend his player is the Arsenal fan who even has more reason to. Every single one of them defended their players (who happen to be worse players by the way), except the Arsenal fan who as usual is either too honest or is just used to being the beta fan. I have never understood how these fans even with the disgraceful state of their clubs are still more confident to defend the most ridiculous situations while Arsenal fans just accept everything and even when they defend, make a mess of the defence. Imagine a Chelsea fan putting Martinelli top of his list of underwhelming players. A flipping Chelsea fan. Gaslighting us into not judging his player off price tags but will never afford the same grace if the shoes were on the other foot. Farcical

    • @AyaGumede
      @AyaGumede Před 17 dny +4

      What's more surprising is how other opposition fans ignore this and pile on Arsenal, and they defend the nonArsenal player. I mean, how are we sitting here talking about Martinelli (who they've never rated) be more underwhelming than the most expensive football player signing? Or that same player, Caicedo having better stats than Rice? But the comment section is inundated with Suga Shaun praises? It's ridiculous 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @Joe-bo
    @Joe-bo Před 19 dny +14

    Where the hell is Rashford? Best season of his life last season, and now hes no where to be seen. Top of the list easily!

    • @usm4n992
      @usm4n992 Před 19 dny +1

      We always knew Rashford was inconsistent

  • @bluemoon1716
    @bluemoon1716 Před 19 dny +50

    Haaland won the treble, the whole team is exhausted. And he's still the league's top scorer despite being out for months. Rory will never let his bias go. Blaming pep is a lazy take when haaland literally broke every goal scoring record and was the CL and prem golden boot

    • @mrhussain9008
      @mrhussain9008 Před 19 dny +5

      This season his performances against Liverpool, Arsenal and Real Madrid was a disgrace. He genuinely looked like Eddie Nketiah out there

    • @thetruth4654
      @thetruth4654 Před 19 dny +8

      @@mrhussain9008 Okey and? This is Haaland`s first season and only season in his career so far where he hasn`t been completely insane.
      and he also has suffered an injury. come on apply some context atleast it isn`t difficult.

    • @kieranj1332
      @kieranj1332 Před 19 dny

      @@thetruth4654 he’s looked trash this season stop going off stats and how long he’s had off, he been trash. Pep will ruin him. He was 100 times better at dortmund.

    • @roykeane1922
      @roykeane1922 Před 19 dny

      He’s missed more big chances than Darwin nunez

    • @kattphatt
      @kattphatt Před 19 dny +2

      @@kieranj1332 Stop going off goals for a striker? Are you high?

  • @kop23982
    @kop23982 Před 16 dny +4

    Dominik Szoboszlai by a mile. Inherited the iconic number 8 Gerrard shirt and played well when there was no pressure but crumbled in the run-in. He has literally been ghosting games.

  • @mariokoschatzky4572
    @mariokoschatzky4572 Před 19 dny +10

    What a load of rubbish, Haaland has played 39 games for City this season and has 31 goals and 6 assists to show for it... ANY OTHER PLAYER this would be an insane season but because of the bizarre standards he set last season he's now "underwhelming"... what a joke.

    • @dontchatbreeze
      @dontchatbreeze Před 18 dny +1

      i know u need to defend ur guy but you know better than anyone hes ghosted against every big team in both epl and champions league

    • @dontchatbreeze
      @dontchatbreeze Před 18 dny

      i like him he seems like a chill dude but he only bullies relegation fodder, look at his goals distribution this season.

    • @dontchatbreeze
      @dontchatbreeze Před 18 dny

      the thing with city is, they have so much world class talent across the field that they can make up for it if one of their stars has an off day. de bruyne, foden, rodri, alvarez, bernardo will all step up

    • @dontchatbreeze
      @dontchatbreeze Před 18 dny

      compare him to watkins, scoring 1 goal to secure a win against arsenal is more important than scoring 4 against a burnley

    • @101notfound17
      @101notfound17 Před 17 dny +1

      He ‘s such a stat merchant that’s the point scoring 5 against luton don’t mean shit

  • @bbr7001
    @bbr7001 Před 19 dny +56

    SUGA SHAAAUUNNNN

  • @killintime2408
    @killintime2408 Před 19 dny +35

    suga shauns ball knowledge is underrated

    • @yessi1585
      @yessi1585 Před 18 dny +7

      He’s fuelled by hatred and bias. He’s clueless

    • @killintime2408
      @killintime2408 Před 15 dny

      @@yessi1585 fuelled is nuts, like wen?…n especially on chelsea he has the most realistic view

    • @yessi1585
      @yessi1585 Před 14 dny

      @@killintime2408 he hates Liverpool and insulted the 97 who passed away. Horrible man

    • @killintime2408
      @killintime2408 Před 14 dny

      @@yessi1585 i ain’t see tht but i hear u….idk wat he said or the context but judging a man by one mistake ain’t fair…anyways his footballing knowledge is a different thing too

    • @yessi1585
      @yessi1585 Před 14 dny +1

      @@killintime2408 I’ve watched him on SDS, he said salah is a bad footballer.. can’t take anyone serious who says nonsense like that

  • @dontchatbreeze
    @dontchatbreeze Před 19 dny +16

    i mean feel free to say things like that, just dont expect anyone to regard your opinions again

  • @jc8550
    @jc8550 Před 17 dny +1

    SUGA!!! Always keeping it real, love seeing you on this. Hopefully more to come 👌🏽🙏🏽👏🏽

  • @Me-gs3uu
    @Me-gs3uu Před 19 dny +3

    1. Hoijlund
    2. Mount
    3. Caicedo
    4. Haaland
    5. Martinelli
    The reason Haaland isn't higher is because he was ALWAYS a scrub, but just put up good numbers.
    People are finally waking up to the fact that he is shit.

  • @adeshas83
    @adeshas83 Před 16 dny

    i love this. cast is crazy

  • @martinjasper7650
    @martinjasper7650 Před 19 dny +9

    Love the Haaland bias.. he´s still top scorer and have missed 10-15 games due to injury, where as Hojlund didn´t score in his first 16 games. Martinelli has been average at best.. Caicedo has been terrible for a 100 + million player. Mason Mount has been injured, played okay when he´s got the chance, but his season is ruined by the worst manager in pl history in Ten hag.

    • @Parzival2119
      @Parzival2119 Před 18 dny

      Mount was shite every fukin time lol

    • @eliassohlberg660
      @eliassohlberg660 Před 17 dny

      Missed 6 But We move

    • @101notfound17
      @101notfound17 Před 17 dny

      He missed 5 games mate also he ‘s got the most chances missed in the prem aswell with the terrible conversion rate

  • @jonathankemper7677
    @jonathankemper7677 Před 19 dny

    Thanks for sharing, Bruv. Darko put me onto your content.

  • @jeffbeasley8283
    @jeffbeasley8283 Před 19 dny +9

    So funny the excuses that come out when it's a player from your team. Caicedo top and it's not close stop moving the goalposts

    • @ShutThePuck
      @ShutThePuck Před 19 dny

      Chelsea fans trying to wash away how much money they've spent by claiming it doesn't matter

  • @ChelseaKTBFFH
    @ChelseaKTBFFH Před 19 dny +1

    Big up Suga!

  • @ShutThePuck
    @ShutThePuck Před 19 dny +7

    Martinelli? His game hasn't changed, what changed was the entire left side personnel throughout the season. Player relationships are important, when he had Zinchenko, Xhaka, and Jesus to link up with on the left last season he was able to find more joy. This season he had to hold Havertz's hand, deal with Kiwior learning to invert, and Jesus being out for most of the season. Trossard has been good when coming on as a super sub, to fullbacks that have already been run ragged, but defences are still doubling Martinelli and he's still blowing by them, he just can't get into central positions enough because he has less help on the left than he had last season.

    • @TP-pq9xx
      @TP-pq9xx Před 19 dny

      Arsenal supporters say that Saka is triple and quadruple teamed on every possession so that should leave the pitch wide open on Martinelli's side.

    • @ShutThePuck
      @ShutThePuck Před 19 dny

      @@TP-pq9xx You took an off hand brainless comment from Rory and just parotted it without thinking.
      If play is switched from right to left, the other teams defense adjusts and it's the wingers who help, the opposing LW comes back to double Saka with the LB, which is why White overlaps, but if an additional midfielder comes to help that's where a triple up can happen.
      This doesn't necessarily free up Martinelli, Arsenal don't whip crosses into the back post or crowd the box enough for cutbacks - that's not a Martinelli issue it's a tactics issue, largely because of how many low blocks we face, getting to the goal line or getting into positions where we have acres of space to run into, teams are often already set defensively and how Arsenal breaks them down is with their intricate passing patterns, patterns which require relationships to be built between players which was the central point I made.

    • @kintib7606
      @kintib7606 Před 19 dny +2

      @@TP-pq9xxnot when teams park the bus. At least use your head mate

    • @TJay96
      @TJay96 Před 3 dny

      Martinelli has been disappointing this season. Makes the wrong decision too often and his dribble success rate is a lot lower this season

  • @obchoseme
    @obchoseme Před 19 dny +8

    please drop another episode with Suga Shaun

  • @rafaelrocha3334
    @rafaelrocha3334 Před 19 dny

    Good video guys

  • @darktacticianemperor5030
    @darktacticianemperor5030 Před 19 dny +2

    Big up Suga Shaun

  • @haripardesi
    @haripardesi Před 16 dny +1

    shaun has good ball knowledge keep up the content 👍

  • @Meeklo1896
    @Meeklo1896 Před 19 dny +2

    Big Up Brotha Sug 👊🏻💪🏻

  • @CFCMD
    @CFCMD Před 19 dny +2

    Big up suga Shaun

  • @ElevatewithDraco
    @ElevatewithDraco Před 16 dny

    Big up shaun💫

  • @navers87
    @navers87 Před 19 dny +5

    If Hojlund is on this list, then Nicolas Jackson needs to be on this list, AND TOP! He's been pants. At least Hojlund had a run to back his season up.

    • @rakoto7835
      @rakoto7835 Před 19 dny +4

      I hear it, I don’t think there was much expectation from Jackson though especially thinking Nukuku was gonna lead the line

    • @Prime1Wunna
      @Prime1Wunna Před 19 dny +6

      Nico Jackson cost half the price of mudryk and plays for the arguably a worse team and has got more goals than holjund…
      Jackson is way better than what people give him credit for and holjund is worse than what people think

    • @areebsiddiqui758
      @areebsiddiqui758 Před 19 dny

      Jackson cost half the price of Hojlund you muppet.

    • @georgefalconer9470
      @georgefalconer9470 Před 7 dny

      Jackson cost £32 million pounds, and other than his awful finishing, he has over performed in the other areas of his game. His hold up play, dribbling, and link up is far above average for a 22 year old's first season in the league. I'm a United fan and I'd be perfectly happy if we bought him for £35 million in the summer.

    • @areebsiddiqui758
      @areebsiddiqui758 Před 7 dny

      @@georgefalconer9470 His finishing has been poor but his open play goals this season are still more than Salah, Havertz and Saka.

  • @whitechocolatexox
    @whitechocolatexox Před 19 dny +7

    suga shaun is a great addition

  • @SakaDaGoat
    @SakaDaGoat Před 19 dny +3

    WHY IS ENZO NOT ON THIS LIST WTF

    • @sugashaun
      @sugashaun Před 19 dny

      WATCH THE EPISODE TO FIND OUT!!! 👀

    • @SakaDaGoat
      @SakaDaGoat Před 18 dny +1

      @@sugashaun he got a quick mention but he needs to be one of the guys on the list

  • @TakeRisks.00
    @TakeRisks.00 Před 19 dny

    Big up suga

  • @wD945
    @wD945 Před 19 dny +15

    No disrespect to Shaun but even as an Arsenal fan I miss Paul's delusional Liverpool bias

    • @maxm7365
      @maxm7365 Před 19 dny

      Full disrespect to Shaun why have they replaced Paul with another chelsea fan and a fat blob

  • @kieran4435
    @kieran4435 Před 19 dny +3

    Let’s use Rory’s logic.. we signed Haaland for 55M, never played a game in the prem, wins everything and breaks the record, this season gets injured for 3/4 months, still top goalscorer and still gets slated 😂 Haaland has set such a high bar that if he doesn’t score 40/50 a season he’s underperforming, he’s still got 30/35 goals

    • @TheChampIsHere_
      @TheChampIsHere_ Před 18 dny +2

      😂 55m except the 30 million fee paid to haalands father and other massive bonuses to riola .. another well over 100 mil pound signing by city .. city have financial doped beyond even chelsea , dont cry when it all comes crashing down

    • @101notfound17
      @101notfound17 Před 17 dny

      55 million?? Cmon we all know he wasn’t that all in all he probably costed more than caicedo or enzo

    • @kieran4435
      @kieran4435 Před 17 dny

      @@TheChampIsHere_ why would I cry? We’re innocent and the court will tell us that

    • @kieran4435
      @kieran4435 Před 17 dny

      @@101notfound17 lying and begging it’s more than 50M just to make you sleep better at night.. it’s 55M for his release clause.. fact like it or not

    • @101notfound17
      @101notfound17 Před 17 dny

      @@kieran4435 mate they paid like 50 million agent fee for him then paid so many bonuses and extra additions to Dortmund he definitely costed more than anyone right now also his wage is like the highest in the prem right now if you wanna include that

  • @ryx9366
    @ryx9366 Před 19 dny +4

    Big up My man Suga Sean needs man on more Episodes

  • @dannywindsor5586
    @dannywindsor5586 Před 16 dny

    Big up Shaun

  • @Carlos-zn6zd
    @Carlos-zn6zd Před 19 dny +1

    Big up!

  • @abdul65
    @abdul65 Před 19 dny +2

    Turkish's handwriting is insane

  • @michaelgomez7665
    @michaelgomez7665 Před 19 dny +1

    I get the arguments for everyone but yeah, Enzo for me is not only underwhelming but disappointing. Not even as a Chelsea fan but just a football fan, there's just something missing.
    I really hope this summer he gets it together and maybe Poch (or another manager) get him to change up his role/position

  • @christianselby2142
    @christianselby2142 Před 19 dny +4

    Big up man like Suga 🔥🔥

  • @davemurf593
    @davemurf593 Před 19 dny +1

    It's Marcus Rashford. 30+ goals last season, abysmal this year

  • @Joe_nat
    @Joe_nat Před 19 dny

    Best episode yet. Best line up too. Cant stand expressions and the liverpool and city fans also.

  • @Iconik19
    @Iconik19 Před 17 dny +1

    You can make the same arguments you're making for Haaland for Martinelli! Teams play deeper against Arsenal which then makes it difficult for him.

  • @TJW-YT
    @TJW-YT Před 18 dny +1

    Chelsea fans have to take the cake for being the most deluded fanbase out there. I get that it’s mostly just living in denial but they constantly want to argue that players aren’t that bad, or sometimes even that they’re really good.
    If these players were half as good as they made out they wouldn’t be in mid table for a second consecutive season. Three managers, plus two interims, but the players aren’t the problem? Ok.
    I saw one comparing Jacksons goal scoring to Havertz a week or two ago, like are we just acting as if Havertz didn’t play in midfield for half the season? He’s listed as starting up front for Arsenal 14 times in the league and has 9 goals from those games, if you want to compare numbers, use those otherwise you might as well be comparing to Rice or Odegaard. It’s crazy.

  • @ducklingpow2408
    @ducklingpow2408 Před 19 dny +3

    I don't care about the rest of the order, but Rasmus has to be 5th. When he arrived, there was no expectation. He was young, raw, only played like 24 times for Atalanta, and was only jokingly compared to Haaland because of their similar sounding names.
    Caicedo was one of the best players last season, Mount has been an England regular for years, Martinelli went from almost 30 goal involvements in a title charge in a great team, to a fraction of that a year later, and Haaland went from the best season ever and Balon d'or shouts to not even being in Balon discussion.
    Not to mention, Holjund won player of the month a few months back. So, what I'm saying is, the player with the least expectation has exceeded expectations the most. He has to be last on this list!
    Wait, and he was injured when he first arrived, and he has Antony and an out of form Rashford supplying him, and he has no-one to learn from/compete for his spot. If any other Man United player deserves to be on this list, it's Rashford

    • @TP-pq9xx
      @TP-pq9xx Před 19 dny +6

      When you pay 72m for a 20 year old striker then clearly as a club you are expecting that player to become world class. That is his expectation despite United supporters trying to pretend otherwise.

    • @ducklingpow2408
      @ducklingpow2408 Před 19 dny +1

      @@TP-pq9xx Mate, if you could've told me who Rasmus Holjund was 12 months ago, then I'd be impressed. You can't judge the quality/expectation of a player based on how much United spend on players. £80 mill for Maguire, £80 mill for Antony, £50 mill for AWB. None of these players were worth that much. Just like I wouldn't expect Caicedo to perform to a £115 mill price tag. However, based on performances last season (the only actual thing you can base a player on), Holjund had very little expectation and has out performed Caicedo, Martinelli and Mount despite having WAY WAY WAY less expected of him

    • @woah4288
      @woah4288 Před 19 dny

      ​@@TP-pq9xx you can't be serious man it's Manchester United u are talking about the worst team in the world at paying the correct value for players

  • @seanfournillier6718
    @seanfournillier6718 Před 19 dny +10

    Anthony is in the ground pushing up flowers and you all are talking about Hojland, Halland, Mount etc SMH

    • @bergiefbaby
      @bergiefbaby Před 19 dny

      Antony was the first guy I thought of. His season last year was bad, but he's even WORSE this year. 86M

    • @TJay96
      @TJay96 Před 3 dny

      No one expected Anthony to do well

  • @deangreen2567
    @deangreen2567 Před 19 dny +2

    Rasmus Hojlund has averaged a goal every 201 minutes for Manchester United - despite going months as the LEAST passed to striker in the ENTIRE premier league.
    If he hadn’t been injured, he’d probably have about 25 goals this season in all comps, which is excellent for a striker who rarely ever gets the ball.

    • @TP-pq9xx
      @TP-pq9xx Před 16 dny

      Haaland receives less passes per 90 than Hojlund. And if he hadn't been injured he'd be on 40+ goals already.
      Hojlund would be approaching 20 goals if he had stayed fit. You're almost doubling his goals total and there's no way he was ever going to play 6000 minutes this season.

    • @deangreen2567
      @deangreen2567 Před 16 dny

      @@TP-pq9xx No he doesn’t. Rasmus Hojlund is statistically the lowest-passed-to striker per 90 in the premier league.
      Who wouldn’t have played 6000 minutes? Man United don’t have a striker to replace Hojlund. If he’d stayed fit, he would’ve played 90 mins almost every game. They literally don’t have an alternative.

    • @TP-pq9xx
      @TP-pq9xx Před 16 dny

      @@deangreen2567 Hojlund can't be the lowest passed to striker because Haaland receives less passes than him.
      Haaland receives 17.1 passes per 90 in the PL, Hojlund receives 17.9 passes per 90 in the PL.
      Haaland has 22.1 touches per 90 in the PL, Hojlund has 25.5 touches per 90 in the PL.
      Even if Hojlund literally played 90 minutes in all of United's 52 games this season (which he is not physically capable of doing) it would only come out to 4680 minutes. Nowhere near 6000 minutes. At his current goal pace that would leave him at 23 goals all comps (rounded up). And that's at the end of the season playing every single minute, not where he would be currently with 5 games left to play.

    • @deangreen2567
      @deangreen2567 Před 16 dny

      @@TP-pq9xx You’ll have to cite where you got your numbers because they aren’t the numbers I’m seeing. No point just putting numbers down without any information as to where they came from.

    • @TP-pq9xx
      @TP-pq9xx Před 16 dny

      @@deangreen2567 That's opta stats on Fbref. Where are yours from?
      And I gave you the math for Hojlund's minutes as well. He's got 14 goals on 2866 minutes. If United buy a new striker and rotate Hojlund next season he should be around this same minutes total next season. So he will remain a 15 goal striker even if he's fully fit all season.

  • @Nine-mv4gq
    @Nine-mv4gq Před 14 dny +1

    not even a city fan but haaland disrespect is crazy he missed almost 3 months of season and still top scorer and he would be bagging goals even if we were not in city team he did in champions league with salsburg and dortmund he has 23 goals in 19 games he is on pace to be a all time great and all see is people shitting on him

  • @vector_vector__
    @vector_vector__ Před 14 dny +1

    E.HAALAND first? 😳 I swear u can't take Rory seriously 😒. Haaland had 2 month's injury this season yet he have :
    31 gaols , 6 Assists in 40 games casually like nothing happen 🤔 . U can't tell me he had bad season , it may not better then last season but still Great For young Striker like him , i do agree tho he need improve his Passing , drop deep etc but that will come with time he's still young player .

  • @lJordanns
    @lJordanns Před 19 dny

    Suga back on main stream shows

  • @thetruth4654
    @thetruth4654 Před 19 dny +2

    Why is Haaland here?
    this is Haaland`s first season in his career where he hasn`t massively outperformed his expected goals.
    and he is still tied for PL top scorer, Rory we all know why you include him and that is because he is mentally traumatized you, so you need any excuse possible to try and push him down. And Haaland has been injured for months

  • @Huncholini
    @Huncholini Před 18 dny

    I say this every time but Turkish has some really nice writing

  • @joelouis8029
    @joelouis8029 Před 19 dny +1

    So for the next 5 years every time haaland has a dip in form expect the 'was I right about Haaland' from Rory

  • @liammelton5479
    @liammelton5479 Před 19 dny +2

    Where's Enzo Fernandez 😂

  • @MCFCTheMadHatter
    @MCFCTheMadHatter Před 19 dny +1

    As per Haaland, I think too many ppl with a myopic perspective are going to hard on him. He’s had a fractured bones in his foot since the end of Nov and was out till end of Jan and now, hurt it again in the RM hence him coming off. That said, yes he’s def missed some sitters and he is 100% to blame for it. Undoubtedly. But I also think there should be a closer look at Pep and how his tactics, especially this season, are playing to Haaland’s weaknesses and not strengths.
    To the frustration of anyone with a set of eyes, Pep has been playing with an absurdly high line that has left us open to solid counter attacks from every, yes…every, team we’ve played and the defensive woes are backed up with the stats. But what a lot of ppl are not talking about is the negative effect it’s having on Haaland’s game when City okay the high line AND their buildup play is so slow, many people say it’s boring. Fair assessment. Offensively, Pep plays the high line to press the opposition further but the downside is when combined with slow buildup play, it allows the opposition to reset their defensive shape and if playing a low block, allows the whole opposition team to flood the box and sucks the space away that is needed for Haaland to function. This was well shown in the RM game at the Etihad.
    Great defenses will certainly take away some of Haaland’s attacking prowess, but when Pep plays the high line with slow buildup, whatever the opposition defense can’t take from Haaland, Pep’s tactics will. Additionally, how many times this season have we seen Haaland breaking the lines and the City attack sees him, and then instead of passing to him or moving the ball fwd, they instead elect to pass literally or backwards and slow the play that much more. It’s like the trifecta of hell for Haaaland: defenders take away some aspects of his game, Pep’s high line and slow buildup takes away much of what the opposition defense can’t and then whatever is leftover, the City players take away (exception KDB and Foden Doku to a degree) by ignoring Haaland with quick, albeit risky passes, electing to pass sideways or backwards.
    If you look at Haaland’s heat maps from BvD and compare them to his at City this season, they’re night and day. Haaland has multiples more touches, linkup and buildup play at BvD than at City. Why? BvD played to his strengths: thru balls, quick transitions, risky passes played etc. It’s the complete opposite of what Pep does. Also, I think it’s worth mentioning that Pep has drastically changed his tactics from last year to this year and we also last 45GA in Gundo & Mahrez who would create for Haaland and those players were not replaced properly (City board bottled the summer window).
    Does all this excuse Haaland’s spurning of some huge chances this season? Absolutely not, but given all the change in personnel, Peps tactics and injuries he’s sustained, it certainly shows that it’s not as simple as it’s all down to Haaland

    • @TP-pq9xx
      @TP-pq9xx Před 16 dny

      Pep is never going to be a counter-attacking, defensive manager. Haaland knew exactly what his role would be when he chose to join City and I don't think he's unhappy with how it's turned out. His finishing has been a bit below expectations this season but he would still be on 40+ goals all comps if he hadn't been injured and playing through an injury. If he was fit all season and finished a little better he could be having a 50-60 goal season easily in this system that you're saying is so harmful to him.

    • @MCFCTheMadHatter
      @MCFCTheMadHatter Před 16 dny

      @@TP-pq9xx Has Pep changed his tactics from last season to this one? Yes. He's moved the backline even higher and is essentially playing a wingback system with players who cannot perform the same way as true wingbacks. Walker is the perfect example of this. Is it any wonder that NF for example, targeted Walker's side for most of the counter attacks? I could go on and on with other examples of it simply not working well as it is extremely risky. You can't simply say, well the system is fine its the players. That would be nonsensical
      In terms of Haaland, are you saying that the new high line pressing system that Pep has implemented this season has not negatively affected Haaland's game? Yes he def has made some mistakes, 100% and he needs to own from missed sitters to spurning some chances. But beyond that, why have we not seen as many chances created for Haaland this season? Why is that he seems to be so easily taken out games? We've even seen with Alvarez in the 9 as well and he dribble, play false 9 etc. The system, and I am surprised you don't see it at all. Maybe in your eye, Pep is infallible and therefore anything he does cannot be an issue and therefore it must the players or something else.
      But more and more people are waking up and seeing that his system has a lot of tradeoffs with it

  • @natibrandnew1180
    @natibrandnew1180 Před 19 dny +1

    The whole Chelsea squad is underwhelming. Mudrich specially

  • @nlizzy9071
    @nlizzy9071 Před 18 dny

    Big up Shaun acc using context as to why Hojlund has struggled this season🤝🏾🤝🏾 the man who can’t be killed as he calls himself on SDS😅😅

  • @elijahcube7063
    @elijahcube7063 Před 19 dny +1

    Dude that mentioned the Caicedo/Rice stats is hilarious 😂. Before bringing stats up at least make an attempt to understand the one you’re bringing up, saying you’re not a stat person isn’t an excuse when you are the one bringing it up😂😂😂

  • @SKBFOOTBALL_
    @SKBFOOTBALL_ Před 19 dny

    Big up sugar Shaun

  • @danielokafor8027
    @danielokafor8027 Před 19 dny +1

    Martinelli has been injured majority of this season. He hasn’t gotten 5 games on the bounce. Like cmon cut the kid some slack. When he’s fully fit we see what he can do. Mount hasn’t even had 20 games under his belt this season so wtf is he on the list for. Haaland has also missed a lot of games this season as well and is still top GS in the league. This video was completely unwarranted and fodder!

    • @BHKG8818
      @BHKG8818 Před 11 dny

      It’s fair actually. No matter if he was injured, ill, or whatever reason, you can’t deny the fact his output isn’t on the level of last season. Facts don’t care about feelings, there’s no slack to cut. But you should take it as a compliment as he’s only in the list because people know what Martinelli can do

  • @timmy5876
    @timmy5876 Před 19 dny

    tbf it’s hard for caicedo to stand out in this team, i’m still somewhat upset we didn’t sign him over endo, i don’t think he was worth the money right now but he’s like 21 so if we get 10 years out of him then sell him for 30m like fabinho it’s a great signing.

  • @Danielounset
    @Danielounset Před 19 dny

    This Shawn guy is the one speaking the most sense and it's the first time I'm seeing him on the show
    Bin the rest of em
    Especially Rory

  • @emilezola1458
    @emilezola1458 Před 19 dny +1

    Proof that Rory don't watch anything other than Prem, to suggest that Messi only played 7 good games in 2022 when he was the fact the best player in that season for Ligue 1. Haaland only triumphed Messi in goals, but other than that, Messi is so clear of Haaland and especially in eye test.

    • @RoryJenningsFootball
      @RoryJenningsFootball Před 19 dny +1

      Didnt make the Ligue 1 team of the year but won the B d'Or, yeah? Makes sense...

    • @JB-nj2wr
      @JB-nj2wr Před 19 dny

      Rory talks crap even the rest of the panel don’t agree with him. Funny how he doesn’t mention haaland didn’t score in any final

    • @101notfound17
      @101notfound17 Před 17 dny

      @@RoryJenningsFootballhe was literally in the team of the season in ligue 1 for 22-23 season and had the most assists and 2nd most goals/a in the league after mbappe what you smoking

  • @armorz3713
    @armorz3713 Před 19 dny

    Martinellis Season has been definitely underwhelming. Last season teams started figuring us out and double teamed both our wingers. This is the reason we at the beginning of the season we struggled and looked like we were creatively dead. But now as Odegaard and Havertz have stepped up and abused the fact they have more space (2 less people on them) we have been shining again. Trossard is the better dribbler and finisher and now deserves to be starting. But in our system I think wingers will never get 20 plus goals in a prem season. But put Martinelli in a Liverpool Side...he would be insane.

  • @johnndi6344
    @johnndi6344 Před 19 dny

    Yessss Suga Shaun knows ball.

  • @aloksheen1980
    @aloksheen1980 Před 19 dny +1

    Why are you expecting 20 goals from marte ??? Hes a very very good as MidF guy, his play and assists with few goals should do him justice.
    Saka, kai, jesus should be more when it comes to goals.
    Orde and marte are the once who provides really good assists and few goals every now and then.

    • @TJay96
      @TJay96 Před 3 dny

      Martinellis creativity/ passing is worse than Sakas so people expect goals from him

  • @Huncholini
    @Huncholini Před 18 dny +1

    Big up Suga Shaun big up SDS Podcast!

  • @am5790
    @am5790 Před 17 dny +1

    Turkish has nice (print) handwriting

  • @qford7389
    @qford7389 Před 19 dny

    I"m a out and out gooner however I TOTALLY rate Hojland especially considering the mammoth size of the club he's at with the incredible lows they've reached and lastly his age then add the pathetic leadership he has around him "I personally think he's incredible" really really rate the young man I will go as far to say I think he has a bit more to his game than his almost namesake

  • @johnndi6344
    @johnndi6344 Před 19 dny +1

    Shaun good points on Martinelli, but 1sttttttttttttt lol

  • @emelnwoye4449
    @emelnwoye4449 Před 19 dny +5

    Caceidont couldnt even contain a sharpness ridden Partey

  • @aryaaaa70
    @aryaaaa70 Před 19 dny

    a player with jacksons technical ability and hojlunds finishing would make a decent striker tbf

  • @WhatTimeIsIt999
    @WhatTimeIsIt999 Před 15 dny +1

    Lol how is Enzo not in this debate.

  • @alexab543
    @alexab543 Před 19 dny

    Man U fans will slate the Glazers, their signings and Ten hag's talent ID but will defend most of their players, make it make sense

  • @greedyme1
    @greedyme1 Před 19 dny

    Delululusional

  • @damii_11
    @damii_11 Před 19 dny

    Yup, that Caceido is wonderful. You can keep him 😂😂

  • @tombowles1
    @tombowles1 Před 18 dny

    Mount was signed for £60m, given the iconic No. 7 shirt and has barely kicked a ball. I like him as a player but that is underwhelming.
    Same with Hojlund. Not helped by the environment or tactics - and I think he’ll eventually be elite - but the reality is United would be no worse off this season had we had Weghorst up top.

  • @Xperthoaxx
    @Xperthoaxx Před 17 dny +1

    No rashford is criminal

  • @MohamedAli-by5nz
    @MohamedAli-by5nz Před 16 dny

    Suga Shaun the realist 💯

  • @amarhussain1309
    @amarhussain1309 Před 19 dny

    Great points from Shaun, agree with martinelli but not no 1. Apply rorys logic martinelli cost 6 million

  • @jackmcilhatton9254
    @jackmcilhatton9254 Před 19 dny

    I’m a Liverpool fan and I think szoboslai is really up there. Maybe there wasn’t much expectation but I think he should’ve been better than he has 🤷‍♂️

  • @mattgiunco7214
    @mattgiunco7214 Před 10 dny

    While you could argue its harsh on haaland the lad needs to start scoring in the big games … the point was right they didn’t bring him to score 4 against luton

  • @zachhyska8692
    @zachhyska8692 Před 19 dny

    Suga shaun knows ball

  • @stunaa4hakim331
    @stunaa4hakim331 Před 16 dny

    SHAUN SPEAKING FACTS….THE FALL OFF OF MARTINELLI IS CRAZY

  • @CAREFREEMINERALS
    @CAREFREEMINERALS Před 19 dny

    BIG UP SUGA SHAUN HES PROPA CHELS

  • @Parzival2119
    @Parzival2119 Před 18 dny

    Enzo
    Rashford
    Caicido
    Marteinelli
    Casmiro

  • @DaGooner77
    @DaGooner77 Před 19 dny

    When you order Tego off Wish

  • @reggiega7989
    @reggiega7989 Před 19 dny

    I agree that you can't criticise hojlund, bren injured snd doesn't get the service from his players

  • @JN-cg6xy
    @JN-cg6xy Před 6 dny

    Ground duels won being used to determine who’s better than someone else is laughable. Chelsea plays a lot more defense, no shit his metrics are better

  • @BenjiYag
    @BenjiYag Před 10 dny

    42 g/a in 41 games but the guy is underwhelming it's a DISGRACE

  • @benconstantine7896
    @benconstantine7896 Před 19 dny

    From the crashing
    No Diddy

  • @GRMLDD
    @GRMLDD Před 16 dny

    I’d like to point out 888 don’t sponsor this site they just use the money they don’t pay out

  • @aakashsharma4079
    @aakashsharma4079 Před 5 dny

    Answer the flex question, 'Which metrics?'

  • @riwaj858
    @riwaj858 Před 19 dny +1

    Martinelli got arsenal win against city

  • @Stv_creates
    @Stv_creates Před 16 dny

    Imagine saying someone is underwhelming when they are the top scorer in the league 😂😂

  • @benhaverty7848
    @benhaverty7848 Před 19 dny

    So shaun thinks mount is the 2nd most underwhelming player because mount chose to go to manu and fight for the 10 position? Thats a strange arguement

  • @asifmanaf1934
    @asifmanaf1934 Před 19 dny

    Turkish and Rory’s take is so harsh on Rasmus. Turkish stating that the “standard has dropped” on what we expect from our strikers in this day and age is ridiculous. For reference, I still expected Hojlund would get us 15-20 premier league goals this season and be transformative in that regard but, for his age and with the mitigating factors mentioned including complete lack of service from wingers, he has to be bottom of this list for me. He’s not even near to the most underwhelming signing at all.

  • @timdurgan
    @timdurgan Před 9 dny

    Haaland has 25 goals and 5 assists in 28 games. How is that underwhelming?

  • @hriday7233
    @hriday7233 Před 16 dny

    Shaun come on!