What Happens When a Liquid Turns Supercritical?
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- čas přidán 22. 05. 2024
- I show you what a supercritical fluid looks like during phase transition.
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I want to address a concern that people are mentioning about vapor pressure. When you put a liquid in a container that is bigger than the volume of the liquid, some of the liquid will form a vapor until the container reaches the vapor pressure of that liquid at that temperature. If it is a pure liquid (no air in the container) and all of the liquid doesn't evaporate, then the total pressure will be somewhere along the liquid/vapor line on the phase diagram. But, if there is air in the container, then the liquid will form a vapor and increase the pressure until the partial pressure of the vapor reaches the the point on the liquid/vapor line in the phase diagram. The point is that if you have a *pure* substance and you tell me the temperature and pressure of the container it is in, then I can tell you if it is a liquid, solid, vapor or gas. (Also note that if the temperature and pressure are on the solid/liquid/gas equilibrium lines on the phase diagram, then I can't tell you how much solid/liquid/gas you have unless you tell me how much energy you have input into the system and how much liquid you started with etc.)
thanks for the clarification!
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> But, if there is air in the container, then the liquid will form a vapor and increase the pressure until the partial pressure of the vapor reaches the the point on the liquid/solid line in the phase diagram.
I think you mean the liquid/gas line. On the solid/liquid line you can't be in equilibrium with a gaseous phase (unless you're exactly at the triple point).
Only critique here is the emphasis on a pure substance, you can do the same thing for binary mixtures very easily, only need 1 more piece of information which is the molar fraction and then I can tell you the amount that is in the liquid phase, the vapor phase, and the contributing partial pressures of each species.
Vapor-liquid equilibrium diagrams aren't too difficult to read without a background in chemical engineering.
@@fat_pigeon Sublimation, transition from solid to gas. You can easily be on that equilibrium line without a triple point, easiest example is dry ice, frozen CO2.
The supercritical transition is still one of the coolest (heh) things I've ever seen. I've watched a lot of people using supercritical CO2 to make aerogel, and watching the meniscus just gradually disappear still blows my mind.
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NileRed did that also. That was the first time I've seen supercritical fluids in action!
@@thomasbodrey that's one of the places I've seen it, yeah. Such a cool thing to watch
Watching those got me to build my own chamber just to see it myself. Really cool to start with solid CO2, watch it go to solid+liquid+gas, then liquid+gas, then supercritical fluid. Put some stuff in the chamber and shake it around and you can tell there's a fluid in there that's slowing down movement more than a gas but less than a liquid. The cloudiness that forms when it goes back to liquid+gas is also fun to watch, you can see it in this video but it doesn't last as long as it does with CO2.
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This is so cool, as a refrigeration tech I too have been curious of the phase change of supercritical fluids. Our entire industry is largely based supercritical and subcooled fluids to transfer heat and rely on pressure changes to affect said state.
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Most refrigerants except carbon dioxide do not ever inhabit the supercritical region. Superheated may have been the word you were looking for.
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Its not the temperature of the gas, its the difference between the energy levels of the atoms of such gas
@@laweacachaiweon Wouldn't differing energy levels mean differing temperatures? I would think they'd correlate.
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Probably the best (and simplest) way to explain the difference between vapour and gas.👍
Hi! Great video! May I suggest something? Film it again having a diffuse light shining behind the vials. It can be a led behind a parchment paper. This will help visualize the phases as we do it in shadowsizing for two-phase flow.
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The cool thing is that as the supercritical fluid forms, the gas above and liquid below approach having the exact same refractive index, which is why the division between then becomes more and more difficult to discern.
The refractive index is merely a consequence or side effect of the density (for transparent homogeneous phases).
We can no longer see the difference between the two phases because...there is no difference, they're absolutely identical :D
Yeah I know it's a detail and in practice we can only compare the refractive index by looking at a sealed ampule, but I think it's even more mind blowing to realise the two phases *are* identical, than to only assume their refractive indexes (one of many properties) being equal
@@YounesLayachi Yes, that's exactly right. This is why I didn't concentrate on the state of them being the same because that's pointless. I focused on the two approaching having the same refractive index, and that's why they become more and more difficult to distinguish. Now this is, of course, due to their density (and other properties) approaching homogeneity, but it's still true that the refractive indices approaching equality makes them more difficult to distinguish. The smaller the difference in refractive index, the less light reflects on the boundary of the liquid and gas.
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I believe what you said at 4:05 is not right...you should always talk about partial pressures - there is always some partial pressure of gaseous phase over liquid - the bold line in phase diagram just marks the point, when partial pressure of gas equal the surrounding pressure (in everyday life it is atmosferic pressure)
As a chemist, I have to agree with you. The property is called vapor pressure. For water at 25 °C, it's 3170 Pa. For ethanol, it's much higher -- 5950 Pa at 20 °C. Therefore, a vessel containing only ethanol (no air) would be under pressure of 6 kPa at 20 °C only from ethanol vapor.
At boiling point, vapor pressure equals atmospheric pressure. That's why water boils at lower temperature when pressure is reduced (like on high mountain peaks) and at higher temperature when pressure is increased (like in a pressure cooker).
And of course, there is evaporation occurring as well.
This post needs more attention. He said something wrong in the video, that doesn't even make sense -- without the air, you'd have zero pressure and that changes your position on the diagram. But if you meant water vapor only (no nitrogen etc) that's a direct contradiction.
This needs more likes. The community needs to know the correct answer.
I came here to make this comment, too. I think the problem was how it was presented.
In a sealed container that is partially filled with liquid, there is always water vapor present above the liquid water. The concept of boiling means that almost all of the energy added is used to vaporize the liquid at that temp and pressure, which is measurable as the latent heat. Until the boiling point is reached, the energy increases the sensible heat of the liquid and vapor. Adding energy to a sealed container will vaporize water to cause the pressure to increase (following the vapor pressure curve) until the container ruptures or all the liquid is vaporized. After all liquid is vaporized then pressure increases per a non-ideal gas equation because water is not an ideal gas.
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I remember learning about the conversion graph in chemistry class. It is really cool to see it again.
Thank you. In university I had to deal with a number of phase diagrams and I never ceased to be amazed at how substances behave under different conditions of pressure and temperature.
I have seen triple point labs but I have not seen the critical point before! This is really neat. Just seeing the meniscus disappear.
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But I wonder if you may forgot to mention something around 4:20. Because materials, especially liquids possess a property called vapour pressure, causing the transition to a gas well below the boiling point in oder to establish a equilibrium between gas and liquid phase. This is also one of the reasons one can nicely smell liquors so easily.
I'm just curious if you left it out on purpose. Anyway, keep up the great work!!
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I love seeing your videos, and trying to wrap my head around what I'm seeing, especially this. And I'm a little nervous that 60bar is being contained in that fragile-looking little ampule, I'd be afraid to handle it for fear it'll explode lol.
One thing about water vapour though, I must mention, is that yes, even without air present, vapour still emerges off liquid water below 100°C. That's why it'll boil if you remove the air. There are a range of vapour pressures even below freezing, of course it's very low below freezingb(sublimation). Water will evaporate until there is equilibrium, then there is no net change of vapour/liquid and no boiling. This principle is used in heat pipes 👍
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Whoa. That vial is pressurized to 60 bar? That's almost 900 PSI. I wouldn't dare touch it, let alone cool it, heat it, etc.
I didn't know a little glass container could hold that much pressure.
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yes a little scary. I wore safety glasses...
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I once tried to make super critical liquid, but it said I was doing it wrong...
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4:12 Well, if we had pure water surrounded by nothing but water vapor, extra water vapor would still come off of it. And the reason we see the vapor is because the partial pressure of the water vapor above the hot water greatly exceeds the vapor pressure that water would have at room temperature, and so the water vapor is at too high a pressure, and therefore condenses faster than it evaporates (the equilibrium is shifted towards condensation). And so this forms millions of tiny water droplets, which is visible.
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Currently taking thermodynamics and having to get used to the steam tables was super difficult for me. This is cool to see it demonstrated. "compressed liq. Saturated Mix, Superheated, and Super critical states"
Happy you come back to address the pressure issue.
What you said in your video was correct of course but a little muddled for people who are not familiar with the subject.
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I really wonder what this would look like with food coloring introduced. Would it color the supercritical fluid, or would it just collect at the bottom, with a little bit of liquid that doesn't convert?
I'm most surprised that little glass vessel can hold 60 atmospheres..that's almost 890 psi right?
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Excellent. What is really tough for folks to understand is how we have learned that with exceptional high pressures we can now compress liquids and change their properrties.
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As a MSE undergrad, I've seen hundreds of phase diagrams in class, but never saw what a supercritical fluid actually looks like. As soon as I saw what was happening, it immediately became clear what was going on. Very cool!
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It would also be worth mentioning/showing the vapour dome (P-v diagram). Not only is it neat for showing the phase transition, but also other stuff like the almost incompressible nature of most liquids, and of course the supercritical point at the peak of the vapour dome, where there is no longer a distinct set of boundaries to cross between liquid and gas.
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Heh, having seen some of those pressurised ampules explode on Cody's Lab you handling it with no gloves made me a little nervous, but I'm sure you know what you're doing! Very cool to see it in action!
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