What If Swings Had Springs Instead Of Ropes: Autoparametric Resonance
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Parametric Resonance is when one parameter of an oscillator is varied at the right frequency to cause the amplitude to increase. Autoparametric Resonance is when that happens automatically!
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isnt bungee jumping basicly a swing with a "spring" in it?
I design ships and they can actually experience a form of parametric resonance called parametric roll. The ship’s stability is a function of its waterplane area. Waves can affect this, by changing how much of the ship is in the water at the ends. You can think of this as a torsional spring, with a variable spring constant. If the wave encounter frequency is at or near the ship’s roll frequency, the ship will begin to roll very violently, even in relatively small seas. This effect often causes container ships to lose containers over the side. They deal with this by slowing the ship down, which changes the frequency the ship *encounters* the waves at.
That is amazing and scary. Amazing that it's such a universal concept.
one step forward two steps back 🚢
That's a fascinating example. Thank you!
How long does it take for you to design a ship?
Thats pretty smirt stuff i actually saw a video the other day of bill nye explaining this on noahs arc and the worlds largest wooden ship it would probably be a really cool short video to check out since thats ur profession
*"You're just shoving the thing, repeatedly."*
-Steve Mould, describing the gentle act of pushing a child on a swing, 2022
accidenaly breaking the childs back
shortly before giving the child whiplash to make a scientific point
Physics doesn't care about the child, any object of the same mass would have sufficed.
gentle act? that child's spine was shattered in the end.
In my brain, this moment is filed away right next to Dennis Kucinich holding a baby doll by its neck when challenged to problem solve by David Letterman.
"The size of spring was starting to get into dangerous territory, like garage door spring"
As a garage door tech I appreciate that comment. Working on your own door is statically as dangerous as working on your roof. I've known plenty of other techs and home owner with ER trips and a few that passed from being careless.
A kid in my high school was doing something with his Jeep and failed at the DIY spring compression device. He came in to school the next day with a hole in his cheek! People are way too comfortable around springs and tight cables, ropes and stuff.
You could probably do an autoparamatric resonance with a swing by both translational and rotational modes (instead of using a big spring). I'm sure I'm not the only one who as a kid remembers finding that one cheap swing with the rope attachments too close together that no matter how hard you tried whenever you tried to swing on it it you would just end up spinning eventually instead - likely autoparametric resonance between those modes.
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@@MaxUgly considering that the whole weight of a car is supported solely by 4 springs, and remembering that those can withstand potholes and speedbumps without issue, shuld be enough to scare people into handling with caution.
You cant compress a bike spring with your full weight, let alone a car spring!
@@thenasadude6878 Well, go back in time and tell that to my classmate in 2004! sheese man you act like I told him this was a good idea.. unbelievable, I'm gonna go chew on a ball bearing now..
As a fisherman I know this phenomena all to well (parametric resonance). Any time I throw my bait over a branch or something I use this method to swing it free.
With my skill I usually tug a bit too hard and end up hooking the branch like a grappling hook lmao
@@100GTAGUY yup I have this luck then I switched to spiderwire 80lb and now I either straighten my hook or get a free branch lol
@@Wesleystewart78 on the upside you can skewer your fish with the branch lol.
I usually end up going after my lures and hooks and hand retrieving them off the branch, and or taking a swim.
Oh wait... You're right!
also very evident in the flyfishing casting techniques
This is actually how continuous Foucault pendulum demonstrations are typically powered in museums, since you need to keep inputting power to keep the oscillation going without pulling the bob in any particular direction or influencing the rotation of its plane of oscillation.
Oh cool!
O cool!
Foucault, arch-enemy of flattards.
Owe cool!
I had wondered about that, but never bothered to look into it. Neat!
This video reminds me that, back in school, we were asked to do an experiment to fin out what parameters affect the period of the pendulum.
I made the (what seemed reasonable at the time) hypothesis that the mass would affect it.
So I set up my experiment, did lots of testing and, of course, had a negative result. Undeterred I kept testing, being very thorough.
I then got told off, maybe I should try something else.
I didn't get good marks for that experiment.
Which I maintain is very unfair. The point of science is not have the answers before you test, but to hypothesis and then try to prove or disprove!
My hypothesis may have been wrong, but my approach was, I believe, entirely correct.
Everyone else in the class tested length. Statistically speaking I think the majority of them must have had prior knowledge of the answer before starting.
When we found out that our hypothesis was wrong and we could explain why we could still get full marks, that's how it should be
In fairness to you, the density and size of the pendulum will have a very small effect in atmosphere, but it would be difficult to measure that effect with grade school equipment. So you weren't entirely wrong, you just didn't have the equipment to show how air resistance and weight will change the resonance.
You are right. Science is supposed to be a relentless and thorough pursuit of the truth leaving no stone unturned until it's discovered. You should have been praised for your determination not docked marks for it.
Definitely unfair. If each student or group of students used a different hypothesis, together you would have discovered which parameters matter and don't matter. If each team did it rigorously then as a class you would have derived the truth.
Honestly, your experiment was more realistic.
@@YannickBo When did it change? I finished school in 2000 and the way you describe it should be is exactly the way I aced all of my physics - a good write up that reaches the right conclusion. Lets see if I still remember how to say out a physics experiment all these years later - Hypothesis, Experiment, Results, Conclusion etc.. haa
Steve's dedication is just amazing! He's spent years to raise his latest physics teaching prop.
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6:38 I discovered this as a child and was able to get to get as high as the bar of any swing with almost no effort in as little time as possible. Imagine the heart attacks my parents got each time they'd arrive at the park and see their 10yo (with Moderate Haemophilia) standing on a 3m-high swing going higher than the bar.
The issue with your form from what I can tell is that your legs are still bent while you're travelling upward, so you're unintentionally pumping into the swing. Whenever I stand on a swing, I'll only slightly bend my legs and make sure my legs are fully straightened at the same moment I reached the bottom of the arc. I'm not sure if this is accurate scientifically (but it makes sense theoretically) but I found that it was the easiest way to go super high super quickly
You probably would have loved the "ship swings" (Schiffsschaukel) we have in Germany.
Uses exactly your way to get the swing going and you can do rollovers :-)
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That sounds incredibly terrifying, God bless your parents
I'm doing this the next time I find a swing
We had a wooden swing set behind our house which featured a two-person "horse", which was a plank for a seat connected by two hinged joints at either end to two other planks, each of which had foot pegs and handlebars. The swing was suspended by a pair of ropes which ran between the handles and the frame. By standing on this in a surfing posture, you could get really high *very* quickly by leaning away from the direction of travel while pulling on one set of ropes while pushing on the other--essentially what you described. The ropes weren't nearly long enough to swing the full 180 degrees, though.
I've seen acrobats do the same thing :)
@@miso2923I've done that as a child and thinking back, that sh!t's terrifying.
Eh, here I thought we are going to have a new Mould Effect, but instead it already has a boring name as Autoparametric Resonance
It saves us all a month of argument though.
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What about a rotational oscillation that switches to an up and down oscillation that switches to a pendulum oscillation? Do you think this works?
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Swings on springs would indeed be autoparamedic.
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But would only work for swingers with the right mass.
@@mrnerd3143 I've been thinking that for over a year now. I think Google gave up the fight.
It’s amazing how many things get discovered by pure chance from the exact right combination of things.
Like cutting a grape in half (but leaving it connected by a little bit of skin)and microwaving it, turns out it refracts st exactly the length of the wave of a microwave and starts to glow white hot.
Which sane person microwaved grapes after failing to cut it in half
@@brianevans9231 which is why insane people make discoveries lmao
hmm... interesting
the wavelength of a 2.4 GHz microwave is 12.5 cm. So the grape antenna must be some fractional wavelength.
I used to have this bungie rope swing when I was little. I always used to wonder why It would bounce around all weird when I tried to swing normally.
I guess this is why!
"If swings had springs" sounds like a relative of "if wishes were fishes"
I've always heard it as "if wishes were horses, beggars would ride".
@@kencarpenter1363 "If wishes were fishes, we'd all cast nets" comes from Frank Herbert's novel "Dune"
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@@kencarpenter1363 “if wishes were horses we’d all be eating steak” can’t remember the show, but I feel like it was said by Jayne Cobb 🤔
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I'm glad Steve mentioned the double pendulum that is loosely coupled. I run into a similar thing carrying my water bottle (it has a string tied to the top, making it a mass at a short distance) and lunch kit (a larger mass at a longer length). I wind up swinging my arm slightly, causing both the water bottle and lunch kit to oscillate rhythmically like a loosely coupled pendulum. Turns out the masses and lengths are such that my water bottle moves counter to my lunch kit and I can feel the resonance build up if I don't slow my arm down.
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A toy infinite pendulum that constantly makes a really small timed pull to keep the pendulum seemly going forever seems like a good idea
Would be really cool to have one in a desk
Would you buy one? I wonder if could be integrated into a ball clicker.
Whenever someone brings up resonance, I immediately think of orbits, and as soon as you said you have to put energy in when it is moving the fastest I thought "just like it being more efficient to burn at periapsis to expand/lower the orbit than any other point". Anyway, amazing video, and now I want to find other more unusual examples of autoparametric resonance :)
Cool!
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Please make a video about an oscillator with all three modes of operation:
Swinging, twisting and bouncing !
I suspect it will behave chaotically but I might be wrong.
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@@oscarpatxot659 KSP was where I really started to understand orbital mechanics. At this point I've looked into it a bit outside of the game, but that's where I learned a lot (mostly from Matt Lowne at the beginning).
@@cezarcatalin1406 the wilberforce pendulum can be set up like that. But from what I remember the energy ended up being spread among two of the modes and so the pattern didn't look as pretty.
I have a toy kinetic double pendulum on my desk. Its powered by AAA batteries to continue motion, but the changes of phase reminded me of the spring pendulum. I love how you use other examples to get a different perspective!
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7:00 - You can leave your feet in the "up" position on a swing and still "pump" by just putting tension into the rope / chain at the right time. Takes longer, but it works.
Yes. The girl is doing that.
Cool
I'll try doing that
Or by pushing/pulling the rope with the right timing. Takes even longer. Must raise/lower your centre of mass just a bit.
@@gibbogle The girl leans back and pulls her feet down again, like all of us do/did when we pumped. I'm saying you can remain completely stationary and still make your swing higher by either pushing/pulling to cause your center of mass to shift up, as @andrew_cobb said, or maybe it moves the seat forward/backward a bit, and gains angular momentum. I'll have to investigate this further... (Hey, kids! Time for a trip to the playground! ... for you to have fun!)
I love how, after explaining the initial phenomenon, you just continue right on teaching related concepts you can showcase similarly. Definitely my favorite subscription of the past year
I like this part the best 14:42
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What a wonderful explanation, parametric oscillation never heard before ,but always wanted an explanation why pumping a swing, increases the velocity of it.This is amazing.
You could probably use bungee cords instead of springs for a real-life version of this sort of swing
Oh God, I just pictured of a Bungee jump going horribly wrong by bouncing off to one side instead of up and down. Falling to the lowest point and instead of going up... bouncing off sideways into a rockface.
@@MOSMASTERING Bungee cables are always tuned in terms of length and weight for precisely that reason.
And that's also why you need to make sure you're working with proper professionals.
Cords are still springs and since they have same energy capacity - till take your arm off just as well.
Bungee cords are *way* less durable, especially when exposed to UV radiation. Placing a metal spring out of reach of the rider would be a better option
He could just go toprope climbing and swing on the climbing rope at the highest wall his local climbing gym has (preferably not that high off the ground). Climbing ropes are dynamic ie. they are springy and the longer the rope, the more pronounced it is.
I don't know why but watching the pendulum gain amplitude from the resonant tugging is very satisfying
Isn't it!
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I was vaguely aware of the non-auto variant, very interesting concept. Also a fascinating demonstration seeing it shift multiple times between primarily working as a pendulum and spring... converting the energy that's in the system between the two states. At first it really seems like something that should not be happening.
I made a swing of springs for my daughter. Great fun. Look for hose tender springs, they usually go under a trailer or behind a semi to hold hoses up.
2:28 this is revoltingly unsatisfying!
@01:31 - A tip for pushing kids on a swing- It might be a better idea to stand in front of the swing and push the kid's knees/ lower tummy. That way one can
1. Avoid the possibility of kid slipping off of the swing by the push (the naturally leg gets stuck at the knee joint)
2. have better conversation with them when you are facing them.
3. get to look at their cute little smile as they enjoy the ride. 😍
4. A nice kick in the balls
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You actually need to stand a bit offset from the line of motion of the swing. Otherwise your arm can not really reach the kid.
Haha I love how you answer questions I've asked myself for years as a child! Great work Steve thank you
The botafumeiro in the Cathedral of Santiago de Compostela has been studied also in wind tunnel... amazing. thank you Steve!!!
Would love to see the first one with an LED attached, in a low light setting!
Yes, perhaps with a very long exposure to map the locations.
Oh boy, the normal modes are bringing back nightmares of my mechanics class. We did a whole chapter on coupled oscillators and basically what happens is you have a matrix differential equation and the normal modes correspond to the eigenvectors. They're important because all the other solutions are linear combinations of the normal modes.
Up at my camp many campsites hang a 2 person bench swing up.
1 of my friends used car springs at the end of the chain.
The "give" in the springs was PERFECT for when you sit down & it's never a hard seat when you're sitting in it.
Best idea ever:
Hang springs on the end of your chains where they attach to your bolt.
The Mathieu equation, (pronounced matew or mathew) is a fun equation. There are papers written that describe what happens when tweak various parameters. Parametric excitation is a fascinating topic.
If you perform a multiple scales expansion (I would guess a first order would be sufficient) on your model you will be able to see the slow change from swinging to bobbing in your spring pendulum.
Now I want to see a swinging Wilberforce pendulum, maybe even one linked to another to throw in some driven resonance as well.
Maybe bungee cord would be a safer alternative to making a science swing?
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University of Michigan has a swingset like this on the engineering campus
You beat me to it. We have one of those pendulums in my department and I tried doing that just last week lol
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I remember learning this in my advanced mechanics class. I had never seen the spinning/twisting mass on a spring one though. That was super cool to see.
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Excellent explanation. As usual: breaking down the problem into understandable parts. Respect👍
thanks for explaining something I've done instinctively as a child to make the swing go faster/higher. I basically pulled the ropes in a way that shortened, or released them to make longer, because then I didn't need somebody to push on the swing to get this effect. Didn't know why it worked, just that it did.
My final project as an ME student was something like this!! My project takes its form by combining the concept of a see saw and a swing with a spring as a connector, never got the chance to perfect it but this was the main idea.
Reminds me of the relationship between inductors and capacitors. In an LC circuit, energy is constantly exchanged by the two components, each being stored in a different field. Capacitors store energy as electric potentials and and inductors store it as magnetic potential. As one discharges, it charges the other which then discharges and starts to charge the first.
You can see the parametric resonance in action in swiss rings (Schaukelringe), which is a gymnastics skill I learned in college. It's really fun feeling the acceleration when you get the timing right
I used to do it on a swing along with moving my legs, doing both really gets you a lot of speed
Have missed your videos, including our zany sense of humour and your amazing descriptions of your discoveries!
Thanks for the explanation of the pendulum (penjilum). Tree workers use that method with throwline tricks.
This reminds me of the spinning T shaped thing they showed on the ISS, and how it was oscillating between different axes of rotation.
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That's torque free rigid-body precession, which is very cool, but not related. It just falls out of the conservation of energy and angular momentum for a body with three distinct principle moments of inertia.
That was mind blowing. I was looking at that video and scratching my head.
Love the videos and the concepts Steve. Always a great watch
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Thank you!
This principle applies to more then you know. I will try this on something else. And if I get the frequency right, the end result is more movement!
1:00 A flute or a whistle isn't actually resonance. There is no rhythmic external influence here. Just continuous airflow.
And another parameter of a pendulum that's relatively easy to adjust is the distribution of mass. Is it all bunched up at the center of mass or spread out? A more spread out pendulum (along the radial direction, at least) will be slower than a more concentrated pendulum with the same distance from center of rotation to center of mass.
Also happy to see someone that's not afraid to use centrifugal force. Too many were taught "There is no such thing" in school and stay in that narrow frame of mind the rest of their life.
No resonance? Then what, pray tell, determines the pitch of the tone? Yes, the input airflow is continuous, but do you understand how a whistle works? The airflow at the fipple is not continuous. That's precisely why there is a blade across which the air passes. If you look around, you can probably find some good Schlieren imagery of the airflow at the blade edge. (Perhaps Steve needs to do a video on how whistles and flutes work.)
@@michaelsleator6326 Yes, no resonance, precisely because the input airflow does not have that frequency to it. The input airflow isn't perfectly smooth, and that's enough. The whistle makes the frequency all on its own.
The pitch in a whistle is decided by the size of the chamber and the speed of sound. Many physical systems have such a "preferred" oscillation frequency, called the eigenfrequency. And they will oscillate at that frequency when acted upon, regardless of the frequency of the input.
Yes, they will oscillate way, way more with way weaker influence if the input oscillates with a frequency that matches. This is resonance. But it doesn't have to match. Like in a whistle. Like Tacoma Narrows bridge. Like a guitar string (the string itself, mind you, not the box it's attached to and the air inside that; I don't know whether that's true resonance, but at least the influence of the string is very rhythmic, so I won't exclude it without knowing more). Like a xylophone. Like a car hurtling down the freeway with one window slightly open. Like swings in the wind.
There is a phenomenon, I noticed it decades ago with a super ball, bounce the ball about 3 feet high, on a smooth driveway, the ball bounces straight up with lots of spin on it, then the next bounce it travels forward about 2 feet but with no spin on it, then hits the ground again and bounces straight up with lots of spin on it but no forward motion, and it repeats, up with spin then forward with no spin...gain and again, and i could tell it was periodic, physics is interesting.
That's not physics, you lived near a witch. I'll pray for you
I know exactly what you’re talking about!
That’s really cool!
If you spin a superball and throw it under a low table, it will come back out because of this effect.
We tried to Max out spin rates, measuring how wide was the left/right bounce..
You know it's good quality when he's willing to break his child's back for the video
This is an excellent video. Thanks Steve.
I just realized that I have stumbled upon this phenomenon in-person while I was trying to work my way up a half pipe starting from the bottom, going back and forth and timing the balancing of my body weight to work my way up progressively higher up the ramp
The tensioning at the right point is actually a perfect analogy of the Oberth effect, which is used to accelerate spacecrafts.
YEAH! I was just thinking about that but I couldn't remember the name of the effect. It's crazy how this one concept applies to so many fields, yet most people know nothing of it.
Not sure if that really is an analogy. The Oberth-effect is the most efficient way of increasing an orbit because of the conservation of impulse, not resonance
@@youngtschakaloff Both examples; adding force to the pendulum and efficiently increasing velocity of a spacecraft, follow the principles of Newton's law of motion.
@@Element4ry well a man walking and a spacecraft also both follow the principles of newton's laws of motion. not exactly analogous though.
@@ClashBluelight They do. But the point is about efficiency in doing so.
Wow. This is very cool! That's crazy how the energy is transferred from one pendulum to the other!
Fascinating! For all we know, we know so very little. The mysteries of life intrigues me to no end.
I love these! Just as the simple pendulum swings from side to side, alternating between kinetic and potential energy, these autoparametric systems swing through phase space, alternating between energy in the spring and energy in the pendulum.
I have had great experiments using strong monofilament fishing line for 3/4+ of the length, the rest is a rubber baseball with a 3-4' length of black eleastic threaded through it. The other end is attached to a drain opening in the street/overpass overhead. The ball hangs at rest at about shoulder height. From there up to the drain is maybe 20+ feet. This allows for pitching practice with a kick. As a juggler since 1976, I have heard many assume I am ambidextrous. This is not the case with me. However, I used my nifty hanging rubber ball to practice throwing with my subdominant side. Great fun. The elastic makes for many interesting returns, too. It's a fun rig to use in the warmer months, until the vandals tear it down. It's down by the tracks, a common place for some rough folks. All the cement walls are covered with graffiti. I hope that some had fun with the rig before it went. It can be a rough world out there, so I figure some random cool thing to stumble upon, like a ball on an elestic hanging, might be good fun for others to, heaven forbid, Play with and let off some steam. One can be quite aggressive with such a rig, depending on how hard the ball is thrown and at what trajectory. It can go from a polite pendulum swing to a really wild, unpredictable return with a punch. Maybe the rig outsmarted some of the vandals and came back to bite them. One can find the ball-on-elastic toy at Dollar Stores and the like.
0:57 beautiful, brings a tear to the eye.
When you pump a swing, don't you change the centripetal force vector so that it is in the direction of travel more of the time? Perhaps that just boils down to angular momentum in the end?
I love how steves videos are getiing better and better. First the ballerina cosplay and now this. Great work man, great work
Holy smokes! The spring pendulum in auto parametric mode describes the same pattern as the Lorenz Attractor: repeating patterns within an outwardly chaotic system. Fascinating stuff, Steve!
I'm a science channel addict but for some reason I havent seen this channel until now! Subscribed for sure!!
You need to do one with all 3 modes: twisting, swinging, and springing
YES
Chaos ensues
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Bop it! Twist it!
The opening scene technically had that.
That'd be some neat choreography.
I love anything to do with harmonic resonators and resonant motion or resonance in general. I'm a hobbyist electrical engineer, and one of my favourite areas of EE is in oscillators, like ones made of an inductor and capacitor, which work based on a lot of concepts of resonance that can be applied to a system like this. Except instead of the harmonic motion being mechanical, it's electrical. But despite this difference you can use the exact same formulas to describe them. Which I absolutely LOVE it when I find overlaps between two topics in science/physics that seem to be unrelated at first, but when you look closer, you find the reality is that they can be described the the exact same set of rules. It's almost as if the physics is coming full circle or something.
I think the various system equations are translatable since they all relate energy.
Such great art. Nice playing 🙏
The swing analogy was great! I'll be sure to use that in the future
Is anyone going to talk about how he broke that child's back 2:21
Here's a fun swing related question that I've been meaning to sit down and find a general solution to: what is the ideal angle to jump off of a swing to maximize horizontal distance?
Its not 45°, because at 44° I think you're moving faster than the benefit you gain from the ideal launch angle. But then is the same thing true at 43°? It's a surprisingly tricky problem to work out, and I've been meaning to get to it, but you're free to beat me to it.
I always fel it was near 68°, enough to get the momentum from the downward motion through the center with about half the lift from the upswing before you started to lose momentum.
I dont think there is a definite answer to that like on a throw because it should depend on the length of the swing which varies your jumping height. I guess on a swing you dont really jump as well you just let go at one time and get the angle perpendicular to the swing angle and the speed at that point
@@petertrudelljr how do you define the angle?
@@fbrickerlp I did a brute force test of this and found that the variables for determining the answer were pendulum length, how high up you swing from, and height from the ground at the lowest point. All that considered, I only saw a 2-3° difference in results. Somewhere around 25° if I remember right.
@@fbrickerlp a fun thing about the geometry of the problem: the angle of the rope of the swing (assuming vertical is 0°) is equal to your launch angle from the ground (assuming horizontal is 0°).
Although the content was bouncing around a little bit, the real message really resonated with me. I’m sure I’ll swing back later when I feel tense.
I love the science community on CZcams. Thanks for asking questions I don’t know if I’d ever ask!
Steve, you don't have to use a spring for this, you could use a bungie cord.
Which is just a different type of spring
I don't know why but this video continually blew my mind, everything he brought up made sense to me but in a way I had never considered. Just makes me realize how weird energy is, especially when you take into account the preservation of mass and energy.
Whoa. Simply fascinating! 😮
I have to say as I followed along to the science behind the video it really makes perfect sense in my head. It's extremely awesome that we can't turn rotational energy and convert it into linear energy and vice-versa. I've been studying nuclear science for a while and different ⚛️ atom lattice structures and the standard particle chart, the different quarks and the spectrum of light from cosmic ray to AM radio waves and everything in-between
My childhood would’ve been a lot more fun…and a bit more dangerous 😂
How are all of them bots!!!?
Funny how this was literally on my physics test today, big up Steve!
Steve is right about garage door springs there not to be messed with, as a carpenter ive installed many doors and the setting of the spring is the part i like the least. i've seen tools embedded into the header because something slipped before the spring was tightened down
Also once a year spry that spring in your garage once a year with wd-40 or pb oil, having a broken spring on your door is not fun
my sister had a program on her school website which simulated a pendulum on PC
i was messing around with it and i found out i could actually increase the velocity of the pendulum by increasing and decreasing the length
i thought it was some kind of error in the calculation or i just found out a new phenomenon
was kinda stoked that day
happy to finally find out the reason
I've used the string technique while climbing to help someone swing back to a wall when they fall off a large overhang. I never knew why it worked
That statement triggered my acrophobia, which has worsened (from a base of zero) as I've aged. You have fun your way I'll sit in my recliner watching Steve Mould videos.
8:33 the math (extension by another third) checks out. If the extension of spring is F = m*g = k*l, then the extended-by-a-third total length is 4*l. Frequency of pendulum is sqrt(g/L), and frequency of spring oscillation is sqrt(k/m). Putting the above condition L = 4*l is equivalent to setting frequency of spring = 2* frequency of pendulum, ie parametric resonance. 👍🏻
Experienced pendulum dowsers as well as L rod dowsers are all quite familiar with what is known as mechanical parametric amplifiers. In the case of a pendulum hovering over an object sensitivity is increased or decreased depending on the length of the string. Naturally, reactions are affected as well.
you make good videos man. thank you
I thought it was pretty cool that when they're a quarter out of phase, the moment they switch is when one part of the pendulum reverses its phase. I didn't look at which is which for this, but it appears then that the pendulum that's either ahead by 1/4 or behind by 1/4 becomes the consumer of the other pendulum's momentum, and when one of them is entirely "eaten up" and reverses direction, this relationship switches (because the swinging shifts by 1/2 phase) which is why they keep going back and forth between modes like that :)
Thinking on it (still without looking at the video again because thought experiments are more fun) I'm going to say the behind-phase one is the consumer. I assume this intuitively because I spent a lot of my childhood jumping on trampolines with my friends, and to give my friend all my bounce I'd stomp down on the trampoline a little bit before them. Likewise stomping just after them landing lets you kill their momentum, but I rarely did that because that energy is all absorbed by the legs and hurts quite a bit when you're not prepared for it.
Edit: now I'm actually getting a little bit unsure of if I got that right, because originally I said stomp ahead of them for both and I can't decide which is which. Memory is unreliable and I don't have a trampoline and friend handy...
There is also a fantastic analogy with quantum mechanics.
You can imagine to start your system as two decoupled oscillators. This is described by a diagonal hamiltonian whose eigenstates are the two oscillators doing their thing independently. Then you introduce a certain coupling between the two oscillators, i.e. an interaction. This corresponds to an off-diagonal element in the hamiltonian, which you can diagonalize to find the two new eigenstates, i.e. the two "stable" oscillations shown in this video.
In quantum mechanics, if you prepare your system in a state which is a mixture of two eigenstates and then let it evolve, the system will oscillate between the two eigenstates, exactly as shown here. Instead, if you prepare your system in an eigenstate to start with, then it will remain in your eigenstate indefinitely.
Simone, man, you're way too smart for me to understand.
That's an example of two coupled pendulums. It's not autoparametric resonance. That would be if the Hamiltonian somehow changed depending on the state of the system.
i use that swinging trick to get wire up over rafters when im running something in the shop, get it swinging to right above the rafters then let it go n let it drop, u have to do in kind of a swift motion, it goes pretty fast once u get the hang of it u can run a few rows pretty quick without havin to set the ladder up a bunch of times, n its especially nice if u have to run over a rafter over a machine that i dont have anything big enough to move
One of the best videos i have seen
1:34 pull your pants up Steve LOL
Very interesting stuff, I'd had loved it if you had discussed the math behind it a bit more (I know math is scary to most people, but ultimately it is the functional language to understand natural phenomenon).
CLOSE and nicely DONE👍!
By tugging the string at each end of the swing you're
1. momentarily shortening the RADIUS of the swing ( pulling IN the arms of the spinning ice-skater ... ) at the SAME time as you're
2. RAISING the height of the mass thus adding to ITS internal Gravitational Potential Energy.
When PUSHING -horizontally - your child on a swing at JUST the right time ONCE in the pendulum swing (twice if your wife is in front - strategically chosen by you to avoid the
"swinging-legs-impact" or "getting kicked on the noggin" phenomenon 😉) you're participating in the resonance of the system , but shortening or lengthening the radius and adding potential energy while part of the closed system, is parametrically primary to the secondary effect of "resonance" even tho the "timing" makes ALL of it part of the resonance youre - very _nicely_ describing !
Think of the kid's "pumping and leaning" to increase the height of the swing and you get an idea of internal system "resonance" adding amplitude to the swing.
All of your "pulling-string" is injecting EXTERNALLY SUPPLIED ENERGY _into_ the "System" .
The spring alone works off of ONLY the initially-imparted energy.
Good Vid, and overall good description of the phenomenon 👍!
Fun diversion, too !
The COOL part tho,
in MY opinion ,
is-
There are a whole HANDFUL of factors all coming into play, that at first don't seem obvious or connected, but when brought out as you have here make for a very interesting look at a basic bit of Physics !! Science is INTERESTING - and Engineering makes Science
_ FUN_ !!
Thanks and ALL the _BEST_ 👍!!
-C.
Fascinating stuff, albeit a bit too difficult for a lunch break video. Can't wait to go through the formulae
"That's clearly a bird doing a poo" Hahaha, I thought for sure you were going to point out how well the area has been conserved based on the wildlife or something, but no, bird doing a poo :D BTW I've been meaning to sign up for Wren for a while, this was what finally inspired me to follow through and I did it. Turns out that to offset 100% of my family's emissions is $42/mo (no coincidence it's answer to life the universe and everything), well worth it to do my part in the Climate Crisis and get some peace of mind, cheers!
You can vary the "gravitational constant" by making the mass out of ferromagnetic material, and varying the magnetic field.
Yeah but that's not _actually_ varying the gravitational constant.
brb grabbing a compass
One important thing to note about most garage door springs is that only when you install it do you twist it tighter so when you order one I shouldn't have any stored energy
Couldn't figure out why my sound wasn't on, but also was fortunate enough to discover that watching Steve push a child on a swing in slow motion is quite relaxing stock footage.