Arrested For Delivering a Package - Cops Get Sued
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How did you comment 15 hours ago
@@rickywrld the video was mostly still private
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5:25 I think you missed abit of the point of the word "articulable" as in able to say what they are suspicious of someone doing...
"what crime have i commited?"
"we're about to find out"
that's a very obvious presumption of guilt right there.
quirky cop things
Cox You're not waiting underwear hhhhhhh 🤣
That "We're about to find out" can be used by any competent attorney to give enough rope to the officer to let them hang themselves.
If a y plain clothes officer, goes to a civilian then escalates the situation to the point it's going south, and if he refuses to identify himself, then the civilian is entitled to defend themselves with deadly force.
I don't CARE if its a cop that gets shot. They make up rules and lie all the time because they get away with it while turning the public into victims, of their brutality.
@@rogerramjet6429 actually the "plain clothes officer" was retired at the time
The irony that a cop dressed as a civilian didn't identify himself right away but expected the courier to identify himself right away is not lost on me
In NYC cop that are undercover wont identify themselves that's why are undercover and will go straight to the target not In this
Case but others yes because are looking for someone specific.
And he was retired at the time
He wasn't even a cop.
@@JulioCerdaJulioCCerda I think it is fine that they "investigate" undercover, but they should identify themselves when they are going for the arrest, otherwise how is one supposed to know they have legal authority to do so. It is similar to when police force their way into someone's house, they might even have a legal back up to do so, but if they don't identify themselves in any way, the occupant will only know that someone is forcing entry to their homes, and in their perspective, they'll be justified in defending themselves. Knowing that they are cops, they might cooperate -not always, but at least more often than if cops don't identify themselves-.
@@JulioCerdaJulioCCerda If they don't identify you are allowed by law to defend your self with any means necessary.
"What crime have I comitted?"
"We're about to find out!" Translation: We're still making it up.
It's ironic how many cops were there to violate this guy. Tells you how much real crime fighting is going on in New York.
Moment they say that I'm walking, ill fight back also, ain't no way ill be a hostage to corrupt cops
I'm glad there's a fast forward button 🙌
Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. And terrorists (puppets of the Antichrist) who misinterpret verses, out of ignorance and political motivations, and take them out of historical context (just like radical atheists do by the way), don't help either. Thank you very much for your time.
Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them).
Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy.
Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad).
Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning!
Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures.
Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement.
It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them.
(19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad)..
Salam (Peace) --
2:07 "after years of civilian complaints that the units regularly used excessive force and disproportionately targeted people of colour."
Quelle surprise. (note to the ill-educated: you have to say that in a French accent.)
How in the hell is the delivery man supposed to know what is in the package he’s delivering?? The cops in this country are completely out of control, it’s sickening!!
I mean, true, but at the same time a random person just showing up to the police and dropping off a package without identifying who they are opens up a can of worms. They are right about companies identifying themselves as workers for that company when it comes to delivering to places with higher security. Both sides, honestly, went about this poorly, but it does highlight an issue when it comes to making deliveries to certain places.
@@KazumiKigumano it doesn't and if cops are that scared they need to find a different job.
@@KazumiKiguma Quit making excuses for out of control cops and blaming the victim for the cop's behavior.
he could just have identified himself or the company he is working for. I mean, normally delivery people here in peru ask for a signature.
@@diegokaqui60 this isn't Peru and he didn't have to identify himself.
The plain clothes officer has now been revealed to have been retired at the time of this incident.
So, he was just a plain clothes.
Thats battery then and he's not entitled to qualified immunity
So, no qualified immunity for him?
Whatup LackLuster!!!
Damn, in a honest and just world that would include some jail time for that civilian that pretended to be a law enforcement officer.
The cop tells him he CAN’T just drop off a package and walk off. That’s exactly what every courier in the city does.
That would de facto destroy all postal services, including the U.S. Postal Service.
Not just couriers but postmen
The Constitution __ mandates the postal service. Therefore, anyone who is messing around with it (e.g. Louis DeJoy) is not just breaking the law, but also breaking the constitution.
What are you talking about he randomly dropped a package off to them and just said 'im just a messenger' thats suspicious as fuck that easily could have been a bomb. You mongoloids never seem to have the ability to see anything from the cops perspective tho
They obviously do not stand around and provide an ID every stop.
If a plain clothes officer grabs the wrong guy without identifying himself, he just might get himself knocked the fuck out.
This is true even in uniform, but at least then the person getting grabbed would know they are likely in the wrong.
Should fight the f of him then if not I’d himself.
@@LaughingOrange your comment is pointless this is about plain-clothes officers grabbing without identifying.
@@LaughingOrangeSo how do you figure he was in the stated to them that he was delivering an envelope and that he had not looked at the papers And since when do you have to have a license to deliver an envelope to anyone The cops were definitely in the room they had no reason to detain him search him or even question him hes just a delivery guy and I guarantee you they do not ID every delivery guy that walks into that police station that sounds to me like just flat out discrimination or racist activity
Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. And terrorists (puppets of the Antichrist) who misinterpret verses, out of ignorance and political motivations, and take them out of historical context (just like radical atheists do by the way), don't help either. Thank you very much for your time.
Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them).
Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy.
Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad).
Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning!
Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures.
Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement.
It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them.
(19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad)..
Salam (Peace) --
The worst thing is, ultimately the taxpayers front the bill for this. This should come out of their retirement funds and pensions.
No the officer's paychecks.
Funeral fund
I concur.
Until cops are personally held liable, they won't change.
Agreed
Whenever you ask a police officer to cite a law, they get even more aggressive.
I know, they are immature crybabies.
They can't cite a nursery ryme.
Their brain short circuits
Because they don't know it and hate having their stupidity challenged.
Because they barely know the law. My 15 year old daughter knows more than any cop I’ve encountered.
He was delivering tactical fully semi-automatic assault letters. Those papercuts could have easily sent an officer off duty for 2-6 months with pay.
I agree imagine the horror these cops were feeling...the sheer fear of possibly dying😅😅
Lol
Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. And terrorists (puppets of the Antichrist) who misinterpret verses, out of ignorance and political motivations, and take them out of historical context (just like radical atheists do by the way), don't help either. Thank you very much for your time.
Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them).
Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy.
Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad).
Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning!
Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures.
Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement.
It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them.
(19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad)..
Salam (Peace) --
Quelle horreur!
This is the time when that delivery man should deploy the five-point exploding heart technique.
Literally Anyone Else: "Oh, a letter. Neat!"
Cops: "It's a weapon! Take him down!"
To be fair, it could be a bomb. People aren't very fond of the police. We can play guessing game all day, so in the end doesnt really matter
@@freshswagga100most of the time IF, and that’s a big if, any institution is bombed, it’s done by homemade bombs. There is no way that this guy made a bomb so thin and small that it actually looks like a normal letter.
They are so scared to open a package, but okay with going through his pockets...the hypocrisy of police
They jump on the counter when a mouse shows up.
Not really because that package could have had anthrax which is a very dangerous chemical so they had every right to do what they did. Checking deposit would be checking for weapons because they had no idea what he was going to do
@@doggarage528 really anthrax? So the delivery man was walking around openly with anthrax? Of course they can only check your pockets if he was under arrest otherwise they broke the 4th amendment. So nothing they did was legal. That is if you care about the Constitution, which of course you do not because you wouldn't be ignorant and respond the way you did.
@@doggarage528 they don't care about anthrax. They have one goal, that is to subjugate you to their will. They want to train you to obey
@@garygray2078 yeah I highly doubt that one is very easy to put chemicals on paper that can kill people so they had every right to detain that man all he had to do was tell them what the f*** was in it
As a court officer in nyc I can tell you this is an easy lawsuit, we see it all the time. Should never have been touched, detained, or searched
And yet none of these cops will see a day in court for this.
And they keep paying out those lawsuits, nothing changes, but your taxes keep going up.
🧢 you ain’t no officer😂. It’s W cap tho
@@EmmanuelM03 ok
Bullsh!t at the minimum, this will take several years and the cops will all be promoted!
If Internal Affairs do not take disciplinary action against these officers then what's the point of internal affairs?
It’s all smoke and mirrors. Investigation of cops should be done by an outside,impartial entity.
you cant just go around leaving random shit in police stations. WTF. eVERYTIME I HANDLed DOCUMENTS for my construction work from pieces of equipment to documents. They had a sticker with the data of the sender and reciever adressed by name and ID. wHEN NOT? IT S BECAUSE someone close with the reciever was expected to bring the documents in confidence. This is bizarre. The police overreacted but i wouldnt let that coreur compañy deal with my food deliverys.
IA is the second layer of cops who pretend to hold the first layer of cops accountable. It's smoke & mirrors magic show and we PAY for the entire circus.
THEN WHAT THE FUCK DOES THE POST OFFICE DO WHEN THEY DELIVER???? @@diegokaqui60
To make stupid people feel like they are doing the right thing. It's just like the TSA the illusion of security makes people feel better, but all they care about is making sure you don't bring your own water in.
Putting on some gloves and opening the envelope to see what it was would've solved their paranoia 30x faster than the yelling match in the middle of the station, Rarely messengers know what they're delivering, this entire interaction is stupid
Yeah they were so scared of the envelope that they left it on the counter, didn't clear the area, didn't call a bomb or drug sniffing dog etc. They were so scared of it that they all stayed within close proximity of it while taking literally 0 precautions. I made this argument on CZcams. A real lawyer should be able to dismantle any argument they try to make about being concerned about the letter.
One didn’t wear gloves as he poked his hands and fingers in that man’s clothing. 🤣😂
@@MadAudi that was 3rd Commander Lieutenant Leonardo Holguin; he in now the precinct’s Integrity Control Officer; sort of an in-house IAB officer.
@K B I knew we would run into each other one of these days.
@@KB-zx5bm haha y’all ridiculous 😂
@@ShawnThomas "Integrity Control"? Well, damn. There goes any chance at integrity.
As a courier, there is nothing unusual at all about delivering something without identifying or even knowing what it is. Does the mailman know what’s in the envelope he delivers?
specially in a city where couriers are so ubiquitous...
The mailman _does_ have to identify himself though
Mailmen wear uniforms
@@BruceLyeg More and more don’t. I’m starting to see them in plain clothes in Maryland. Maybe they’re contractors.
@@slapopimp Life shouldn’t be any harder because you decide to exercise your rights. An argument could be made that if these agents of the government simply let him go about his business, he wouldn’t have been militant.
Delivery people transport and deliver packages every day, all day and rarely know what is in the package.
And you would think that there are clear police protocols of how to deal with letters, parcels, and packages that are delivered or posted to them.
Delivery people also don't drop off opened and unmarked packages, if the package was sealed with proper postage they wouldn't have said anything.
but if your delivery guy is giving you unsealed package i suggest you call the company and complain that your mail man is snooping through your mail and might be stealing.
To think before it escalated when he was asked who he was he said he was no one, just a messenger before trying to leave again.... He did identify himself as a messenger when it came to the paper.
This can’t be the first time they have received a delivery. What a wild reaction. Ask a cop why they are doing something, they say “I’m just doing my job”, but apparently others aren’t allowed to.
Most process servers hand you the package and say you have been served as they are legally required to do. This was a super fishy drop off IMHO that could have been settled with a quick examination or explanation by guy instead of baiting a lawsuit.
@@edsloan8535 bootlicker
@@edsloan8535 is that a misdemeanor or a felony?
@@edsloan8535 Fishy? Really?
How many packages a day do you think are delivered to that same department, where the person delivering never does anything they're requesting of this man?
Id say what? Half a dozen, maybe a dozen?
Lets be honest here.
This was an incident because an undercover officer, who was not actually an undercover officer, rather an inactive, retired officer, illegally did what he did. Im willing to bet, he was forced into retirement because he does not seem like he wants to be done policing, rather he probably racially profiled too many people and was forced into that retirement due to a potential lawsuit or simply too many complaints.
@@edsloan8535 The only person a process server has to identify himself to is the person receiving the documents. Most don’t even reach this stage as most process servers don’t even meet the person in person. Simply delivering it to their place of occupation or their current address. They can even just have it delivered via signed mail to the last known address the court has on file.
The person receiving the documents don’t even need to actually have psychical ownership of the documents. If you get a summons delivered to your house and you’re on holiday or just avoid going into work and you miss the court date because you never actually received the summons you are held liable not the process server or the courts.
Also we live in a world where physical copies of court documents never even leave the courthouse. If the court has a known email address they can just send the court documents via email and that is a 100% legitimate process serve.
And the cops wonder why nobody feels safe around them anymore
Slight edit: "And the cops do everything they can and love it that nobody feels safe and them anymore."
@@ericalexander5890 "safe and them anymore" 💀 my guy's trying to correct someone but fucks it up even more. The original comment was better.
Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. And terrorists (puppets of the Antichrist) who misinterpret verses, out of ignorance and political motivations, and take them out of historical context (just like radical atheists do by the way), don't help either. Thank you very much for your time.
Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them).
Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy.
Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad).
Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning!
Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures.
Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement.
It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them.
(19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad)..
Salam (Peace) --
They don't wonder why, they LIKE it that way. It's an ego boost.
Imagine trying to get "assault on a officer" passed in court after getting your nose broken for grabbing someone in plain clothes.
I see assault, kidnapping, and pickpocketing!
Especially considering the “officer” who grabbed him was retired at that time.
@@edwardchew5139 Shows you how much of a life this retired cop had. Retired and still hanging around the station.
@@adcolt54 he is hooked on the power trip
@@adcolt54 his daughter is a NYPD cop not far from there. He purchased a home upstate New York about 10 days after that.
I’m going to try to trigger a foreclosure on it by putting a lien on it.
@@ShawnThomas Great idea!!
Mr. Thomas gets an A, he was well within his rights and stood up for himself
They should be required to articulate reasonable suspicion at the time of detainment. If they have time to cuff you they have time to tell you what they think you did wrong. They shouldn't be afforded the time to sit around and think of a reason after the fact.
That’s what this channel has always said in every other video. However, on this video, they said the police do not need a specific law the detained party is suspected of breaking. Rather, they must only have reasonable grounds for being suspicious of the other party’s behavior. And they referenced a Supreme Court ruling on that matter.
So I’m not sure if there was a recent ruling, or if maybe that was the Supreme Court of NY state. I’m just as confused as anyone else.
@@michaeltorris5675Officers only need to have articulable reasonable suspicion to detain you. There is not, despite popular belief, a law that requires officers to articulate that reason to you. Just that they have the ability to articulate it, say in court or elsewhere.
@@artfulfailure Ok. But I think it stands to reason that, if they can’t articulate what exactly they find suspicious about the suspect, on the spot, then they are just making it up later in their paperwork.
I think it’s likely that if they are asked why they detained you, but they can’t articulate it at that time, and there is video of the incident, that the case may get thrown out.
I have to say, I really don’t like that they can just say, “He looked suspicious.” Because to a lot of cops, that just means, “He is black.”
@michaeltorris5675 Unfortunately, if the court finds probable cause it doesn't matter if the cop didn't know the law.
The fact that he got ahold of this video is astonishing. He is lucky it did not get "lost"
That’s what I’m saying! It happened to me, the dash cam was “not recording.” 🙄
Because those police thinks their actions were justified so they ignored that normal people don't think like them.
its because those whom release it are not those in the recordings. if it were it would be different
Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. And terrorists (puppets of the Antichrist) who misinterpret verses, out of ignorance and political motivations, and take them out of historical context (just like radical atheists do by the way), don't help either. Thank you very much for your time.
Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them).
Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy.
Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad).
Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning!
Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures.
Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement.
It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them.
(19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad)..
Salam (Peace) --
Man "What crime have I committed"
Cop "we're about to find out I'll ya that"
That was a rather foolish response from the sergeant because when this goes to court it appears to display that they essentially had no reason or idea as to why they had stopped, detained and handcuffed this person.
And if the lawyers find probable cause, it would be justified.
Are you kidding me???!!! Thomas gets an A+. He doesn't have to make the interaction ''more productive'' for the cops. NOTHING he did was illegal, including having a knife. He didn't pull it out on anybody, he didn't do anything but deliver paperwork that they could have easily opened up and glanced at it and seen what it was. PIGGIES Were COMPLETELY out of bounds on this.
I work with a man who was attacked and beaten by police and spent months in the hospital. The police resigned and went to work for other departments and we're able to escape. As a result of the trauma that he suffered at the hands of the police, he now carries a gun and swears that he will never be taken into custody again. He States very clearly that he would rather die in a gunfight with the police than to allow them to ever attempt to kill him again. How does one argue against this? I was a soldier and I killed in Ami soldiers and I would never have allowed them to take me into custody, so I have some idea from my point of view
It's also important to note that if they thought it was some sort of chemical warfare attack then why are they putting their hands all over it and tapping on it in order to release that chemical agent into the air through manipulation of the package?
Because cops are dumb.
If somebody you knew hated you and wanted you dead walked up to you and dropped you an envelope what would you do
@@highlander723, they actually could have detained him and investigated the envelope. You don't touch the envelope if you suspect a chemical attack. They should have evacuated immediately.
@@highlander723 In the officers shoes I would never search a package that I suspected of having an explosive or chemical weapon. I would call in experts who have training in the matter and know how to do so safely. This group is either the most local swat team or a dedicated bomb squad depending on location
@@Primus54 That's what the guy said in the video The guy who got to B- openly advocated for the death of police officers.
UPDATE TO THE CASE: So far there have been 60 filings in this case and the city of course has pretty much done nothing to comply, including not responding to FOIL requests. They just keep playing a delay game (and lying) but Shawn is very good at keeping them (or at least the courts) on their toes. He even went so far as to email 133 employees within the department a "wanted poster" he had made in order to identify two of the names of plain clothes officers (listed as john doe in the original lawsuit) whom were a party in his arrest and he also did some undercover video taping of the cops in their shop (thru the glass) to identify them. He was successful and actually 2 of them happen to receive the very email with their wanted poster which contained their images and the text "Wanted for Civil Litigation" or similar, which Shawn himself created. These 2 cops did everything possible to keep from being identified but Shawn is smart and used this to document their "guilty" conscious. This is just an example of only one of many things Shawn has done so far for his case and he is either an extremely skilled shadetree lawyer, a law student, or has a best friend or spouse that is a lawyer. Reading through the documents to date is not for the faint of heart and the average citizen (non lawyer) would never even come close to keeping up with the proper actions and documents for their case as Shawn. Many of these 60 filings are up to 30 pages or more of text and not normal text, it is all legal lawyer jargon.
In short: its still playing out but Shawn has these guys by the balls, bigtime.
If can and if you don't mind could you keep updating us? please and thank you! :)
Marvellous! Hilarious and awesome 👌
@@regulusstarseed1368 Just found him, thanks! 👍
I gave your message a thumbs up but it's quite insultive to think that he can't be smart and witty on his own accord. He deserves more credit than you're giving him, for he is brave to even take a stance against the NY finest in their open corruption.
@@wazxwazx6076 Smart and witty has nothing to do with these court filings. You are conflating two separate parts of the update. I absolutely gave him credit for being smart and witty, especially through his actions. both in this video and the stories of what has taken place after it, which he is on his very own accord. It also just happened to be the main motivator for me to research an update. BUT, smart and witty has nothing to do with the actual language used in the court filings. There are normally only two professions skillful enough to file with the courts and use this language; a lawyer, of course, and also some skilled paralegals. Do yourself a favor and follow any of the links provided by audit the audit, which lead to the court filings, pick any one filing, and read it. You will know exactly what I am referring to before finishing one full paragraph.
This is disgusting. These policemen act like a criminal gang.
Because they are the biggest gang in world
That's what they are
Why the fuck would your mailman know what you ordered?
"We suspected this envelope is full of a dangerous substance. Therefore, we had every officer touch it 25 times without PPE."
Lol, pretty much
😄
NYPD: "We have investigated ourselves in this matter and find no wrongdoing."
In fact our investigatory officers are so advanced, they've already investigated the next matter which hasn't even happened yet, and find no wrong doing in that matter as well.
what a surprise , right ?
So everything is justified with the dangers police faces. But according to the hard numbers say that fishetmen and Truck drivers have Dangerous jobs.
.....so are the batch babys just cowards?
@@oliveranan4881 I fear they misunderstood ' serving the people ' as they behave like masters especially when it come to people arguing AND being black ...
Typical
With each of these videos, we should get the names and home addresses of the officers involved. That's the info they're demanding and taking from innocent people.
I'm honestly waiting for police to start arresting people for officer complaints because of officer safety
Funny you say that because that has happened before. People getting harassed and arrested for going to a police station to file a complaint
@@vincentfrusci7745 there was a news report done here in Florida that showed that South Florida police stations majority except for two didn't know what a complete form was.
This is unbelievable. Do they arrest Amazon delivery guys? Bicycle couriers? Flower delivery people? WTF is wrong with these people. It’s an envelope, ffs.
Hello ! May Allah protect and guide you to his light and happiness in this life and the hereafter, God bless, Ameen. Excuse me for giving a little presentation of Islam, because it is very misunderstood nowadays, especially on those « Antichrist's » times, where media and politics are mixed to distort history and truth. And terrorists (puppets of the Antichrist) who misinterpret verses, out of ignorance and political motivations, and take them out of historical context (just like radical atheists do by the way), don't help either. Thank you very much for your time.
Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them).
Many Religions that we know nowadays, at their beginning were true and under Islam, initiated by one of the prophets of God, but their original teachings, history and scriptures have been corrupted over time with falsification and polytheism, or lost and replaced with false ones. That's why Islam is the only Religion accepted by God nowadays, which consists in bearing witness that there is no god besides Allah (God in Aramaic, the original language of Jesus and the Gospel), and that Muhammad is His servant and messenger, just like Jesus and Moses and others are His servants and messengers. Never a messenger of God said he was God or literally son of God, it was the people after him who changed the words of God and corrupted the Religion. God is unique and absolute, He does not need to have a family and sons or to associate anyone else with His kingdom, He can simply create whatever He wants, everything belongs to Him, and to Him everything will return. Allah said in Surah Al-Mu’minun : “God has never begotten a son, nor is there any god besides Him. Otherwise, each god would have taken away what it has created, and some of them would have gained supremacy over others. Glory be to God, far beyond what they describe. The Knower of the hidden and the manifest. He is exalted, far above what they associate. (91-92 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah means the one and only God, the God of all prophets and creatures, the creator of the universe and mankind, and the Master of the Day of judgment, where our destiny, Hell or Paradise, is decided based on our faith and deeds in this trial life, and above all, Allah's mercy.
Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI).
Allah said in Surah An-Nisa : O FOLLOWERS of the Gospel! Do not overstep the bounds [of truth] in your religious beliefs, and do not say of God anything but the truth. The Christ Jesus, son of Mary, was but God's Apostle - [the fulfilment of] His promise which He had conveyed unto Mary - and a soul created by Him. Believe, then, in God and His apostles, and do not say, "[God is] a trinity". Desist [from this assertion] for your own good. God is but One God; utterly remote is He, in His glory, from having a son: unto Him belongs all that is in the heavens and all that is on earth; and none is as worthy of trust as God. Never did the Christ feel too proud to be God's servant, nor do the angels who are near unto Him. And those who feel too proud to serve Him and glory in their arrogance [should know that on Judgment Day] He will gather them all unto Himself: (171-172 / Translated by Muhammad Asad).
Allah the Most Merciful said in Surah Ali-Imran : Behold, the only [true] religion in the sight of God is [man's] self-surrender unto Him; and those who were vouchsafed revelation aforetime took, out of mutual jealousy, to divergent views [on this point] only after knowledge [thereof] had come unto them. But as for him who denies the truth of God's messages - behold, God is swift in reckoning!
Thus, [O Prophet,] if they argue with thee, say, "I have surrendered my whole being unto God, and [so have] all who follow me!" - and ask those who have been vouchsafed revelation aforetime, as well as all unlettered people, "Have you [too] surrendered yourselves unto Him?" And if they surrender themselves unto Him, they are on the right path; but if they turn away - behold, thy duty is no more than to deliver the message: for God sees all that is in [the hearts of] His creatures.
Verily, as for those who deny the truth of God's messages, and slay the prophets against all right, and slay people who enjoin equity - announce unto them a grievous chastisement.
It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them.
(19-22 / Translated by Muhammad Asad)..
Salam (Peace) --
Yes an envelope that could have a bomb while wearing plan clothes and not a uniform
@@tfordham13 they knew exactly who he was! He is currently suing them & was serving them paperwork. They’re mad they’re losing in court!
Keep asking questions and I'll arrest your grandma for leaving meals on my door step
@@tfordham13Please be sarcastic. I hope you are.
Man walks into a police station and promptly gets mugged.
lol
My husband almost got arrested for delivering food to a school.
I’m so tired of people delivering letters without being held accountable
Scared of opening an envelope but totally okay to recklessly pull items out of a strangers pocket
😂
I like to collect all the syringes I see on the street and keep them uncapped and point up in my pockets. Then I just act suspiciously. I'm the joker baby.
It's the perfect tactic, the anthrax was never in the envelope, it was in my butthole the entire time!
haha the irony
@@somethingelse4424 sigma male grindset
6:25
Papers being served are common at police stations.
This was 100% retaliation for serving papers
People that deliver papers to a police station show ID, and are then logged into a book. You don't dump and envelope and run out.
@@christopherrichards1025 That's done voluntarily. There is no legal obligation.
@@christopherrichards1025 they have no legal right to get your ID and sign into a book. The server did their job and was retaliated against by the gang in blue
@@christopherrichards1025 Says who? There's no obligation for anyone to do that. Haven't you ever seen people literally just throw an envelope at someone to serve them? All someone has to do is ensure that the documents are delivered. They were.
@@RavenGlenn Your reply contradicts itself! The police department is not someone, but an agency. Any process server knows that the summons has to go through proper channels to get to the officer. Copies go to the legal department, then to roll call for the officer to be assigned to court for the day, etc. The server will ID himself, then sign the log as proof he was there-it is for his benefit. The person accepting the summons will then sign the receipt, further proof-see where this is going?
Corruption at it's finest.
I work at UPS, sometimes we don’t know what’s inside packages. Sometimes we don’t get told what’s in them. If this is like any other courier service, it should work the same. We get told address and names, not often do we get told what’s inside. “What’s in the envelope?”
“I don’t know, a piece of paper?” Not much you can fit in there
“You need to answer our questions”
He clearly has not heard of the right to remain silent
However, if Mr Thomas had explained he was delivering an affidavit, I can hear the cops now. “How do we know that? Why should we believe you?” Being reasonable with unreasonable people is frequently an exercise in futility.
They do that all the time. In fact Mr. Thomas did exactly that before. They would have said - Ok. He would have been on his way. Today you never know what kind of nut is trying to kill you.
IMHO they both get a D. The cops mostly for the knife bit.
To suspicious minds, any explanation can be construed as potentially criminal.
@@robertthomas5906 that's not what the video said. The video said he delivered affidavits in the past without incident. Previously, he could have simply handed them to the guy & left just like he attempted to do this time.
The "Where is your delivery ID" comment 100% backs up this line of reasoning. These people are the worst kinds of human trash.
@@aaronhumphrey2009 to a racist mind being black is supicion.... the courts and police unions can chalk it up to something else
The question I have is how many other delivery persons do they check their ID when they deliver a package that is obviously some kind of paperwork
Fear has risen to a mental illness in policing...
Until there are punishments equal to the injustice, this will continue. Every single officer involved has earned a firing.
*jail time
@@stonep11 In GenPop after having "pig" tattooed to their foreheads.
and never to be alllowed to be a cop again in any state or county or city or town or even to be a security gaurd forever!
And a lawsuit not paid by the department but by the individual officers so the taxpayers don't foot the bill... Again.
the police are gangsters, they are more interested in upholding each others injustices than the law
When I was in high school (in the 70's) and college in the early 80's, cops said they had the right to detain me in jail for up to 72 hours for no reason and did so on several occasions. They laughed about damage to my car when they towed it and laughed while I was assaulted while locked in a cell. At 65 years old, I still will not call cops even if my house is broken into.
Even if the cops show up, they don't have to do anything.
I've called cops twice. Once when I was attacked at a bar and got my leg broken another time when my car was broken into and my work phone stolen. Both times cops refused to pull the video and treated me like I was the one who broke the law.
@@ricdandel1145 Yep, and don't report anything if you have any 'issues'. Some truck drove into my Mini and the pair stood there laughing. They parked up and went into a house, so I knew where they were.
I went to the local police station to report it. Man, oh man they went and sifted through every document and sniffed out everything they could. I was legal, so OK. But I can imagine if something had been a bit iffy I'd have been done. That would be a nasty shock for someone...
They did nothing about the guy who drove into my car.
Back the blue until it's you....
@@jasondyrkacz8270 they'll file a police report and then use the hand sanitizer
The crime unit wasn't disbanded because of what you said, they were disbanded in the guide of "social justice".
Dude could've EASILY just explained why he was there but NAWWWW, he is the police!!!!!
IF COPS bring out cuffs, THEY SHOULD be able, BY LAW, to tell someone why they are detaining someone and articulate that very well. This some mess! Cops have WAY too much leeway.
Yea to bad the law isn't for cops and just citizens
@@Troll_vs. What's really too bad is you feel this way.
@@Troll_vs. really? You think that? Wow?
@Zero friends exactly. But you forgot one. We also get killed. Innocent and guilty.
@@barbarawashington8318 Feelings have nothing to do with it, qualified immunity means he is objectively correct.
I like how that searched him fully without an arrest then arrested him for the knife. So many violations of the Constitution.
seems good to me, they are just doing their job
'said the corrupt cop'
we ask the questions, you came into our place, said like a gangmember
That's part of the law suit 👌
What constitution? Cops have guns and a gang. If you stand up for your rights, they will pull you over next week and "find" drugs they plant in your car or on you in the process of a "search". If you argue with them you are going to jail. It doesn't matter if you did anything wrong.
I remember hearing some people being charged with "resisting arrest" and that's it. 🤣 So they're admitting that they had nothing on the person to legally arrest him! Even if he did resist the [illegal] arrest, it was therefore 100% his right to resist tyranny! The cops are criminal either way, which means the arrest is not legal! 🤣 Bunch of braindead numbskulls. It is our right to resist criminal tyranny.
Man I wish I had this channel 30 years ago on Long beach Island NJ. Got pulled over for driving in the left hand lane, even though the right hand lane was flooded that night. The cops pulled me and 3 of my band mates out of the car, in the pouring rain and made us stand there for over a half hour while they searched our car for not driving through a flooded roadway. They found a pipe in the singers jacket and they arrested all four of us for possession even though they found nothing else in the car or on anyone else. We sat in a jail cell for over 10 hours before being released on a summons and had to walk 5 miles back to our car in the rain.
If he was USPS OR FEDX would he be treated this way!
10:57 "sir do you have any cash on you" they were gonna asset forfeiture him too! 😂
Yes. And also take his socks.
Steve Lehto would’ve had a field day
@@NQTOD 💯
And the fact that all of this happen IN THE POLICE STATION… the audacity of these officers is astounding
Man walks into a police station and gets mugged.
Cops are out of control. I am not for "defunding the police", I am for Re-trained them to do the right things, or they lose their jobs.
@@tonyadams4989 yes! We shouldn’t be defunding the police we should be funding them even more so they can get better training. I am still astonished that some people think defunding police would somehow make them work better
@@720MotorWorks Defending the police is always misaligned as defunding to give them less resources. Defunding refers to defunding the money used for military style weapons, like Assault Rifles and tanks to reroute those funds to mental health resources and training. It's been taken by conservatives who refuse to listen to the language of defund the police advocates and assume they mean to get rid of the Police Department.
@@omilliosparks1271 Those "military style weapons" aren't there just for looks you know, they're useful against active shooters and such, so why take those away?
How is possession of a knife "criminal possession of a weapon"? Seriously?
The man who made “Honor your oath, scumbags” a household phrase.
How the hell is a delivery man supposed to know what's inside the package he's delivering?
Exactly. Legally I can't open confidential mail, especially to Government employee's
He failed at every stage of normal communication and unfortunately also regarding decent manners.
They have never been on the business end of being detained.
@Marko Polo teach our officers how to behave and how to be police officer and this won't be happening.
@@manuelmalaret7188 dont reply to this idiot. This is the third time he has made the exact same post.
They’re terrified to peak into a flat open envelope but they look though all his pockets and effects with no hesitation. I’m sure their fear was totally legitimate and had nothing to do with them not getting their way when they asked him a question.
They may have suspected that the envelope contained something of harm. They could have detained him and sought answers and then returned the item to the man.
There have been too many attacks on officers to date for them not to be suspicious. And the fact the city has actively gone out of its way to weaken the force has created the current climate.
@@bighands69 "They may have suspected that the envelope contained something of harm."
American cops are pathetic.
@@OneEyeShadow I take it you have never heard of Anthrax?
@@spidermonkey28 They weren't afraid of anthrax, they were pissy because they didn't get their way.
@@spidermonkey28 How often do people mail anthrax filled envelopes to police stations?
What crime have I committed?
Cop: bringing us more work. We're not gonna do it, but you brought it.
NYPD are like this 100% of the time they always escalade every situation and they don't have respect for the people and community.
Yea that’s true. They usually are like that
Delivery ID? What is that? I was a courier for 25 years and even when doing deliveries at JFK in NY I was never asked for a delivery ID.
PAPERS PLEASE.
@@TheTechSupportGuy Mr Potatoman. You are the one always causing trouble
@Nai Nazmi ok, commie.
@Nai Nazmi refusal to ID? Are you from china?
@Nai Nazmi Ah nevermind, your account is 6 hours old, you are a gaslighting bot.
“What is in here?” Like every damn mail carrier know what’s in every package. If someone walks to my door with mail or a package I can assume it’s mail.
Put the shoe on the other foot.
Would a citizen be allowed to detain, handcuff, ID, search, disarm and hold for five hours a process server/deputy/cop that came to their house to drop off an envelope containing paperwork because they didn't know what was in the envelope?
Personally if a random guy walked up to me and told me he was a cop I wouldn’t believe him. If you don’t have a uniform how am I supposed to know you’re not just a weirdo with a complex?
I believe that part of "identifying as a cop" includes presenting a badge etc.
"Hey, I'm not JUST a weirdo with a complex, I'm a weirdo with a complex AND a badge"
How do you know a uniformed officer isn't a weirdo with a complex? :'D
You're double talking; if the individual presents as a weirdo with a complex then you definitely know it's a cop smh.
He could have asked for a badge, also the6 came out of the police station and was mere feet away when the s@id they were police you’d hav3 to be stupid to not only pretend to be a cop feet from a station bu5 yell out loudly that you are a cop feet from a station (pretending to be a cop is a crime)
7:19 “you came into our place”
Nope, that’s the people’s place
I see the point of the cops 100%. Difference is if it was me I would have detained him, open the package right in front of him, if nothing dangerous……let him go. Common sense. Not so common is it?
Almost a year and a half later, the complaint and lawsuit are still pending? Unbelievable.
Justice isn't swift in the US.
There is really no incentive for the state to find themselves in the wrong, so they don’t
Covid has severely delayed the justice system. It might take a while. There is no justification for the complaint however.
The wheels of Justice NEVER turn swiftly for the victims or those with litigation against the State
That’s assuming his case wasn’t continued by himself. Most civil cases takes 3-4 years before a trial date actually happens. Most cases eventually settle. 18 months isn’t a crazy time period.
I hope that dude gets a huge settlement and those cops are trying to explain to their families why they're unemployed.
He won't. The jury gonna side with the cops because he's not wearing uniform and drops drop off a package and walks out. Not even asking for a signature. He won't win.
@@KNByam not a package. A paper big difference
@@KNByam There is absolutely nothing illegal with that
They just dont like getting divorce papers or supeana's to court. That whole precint is a bunch of criminals. It would be funny if it burned to the ground.
I hope he gets a settlement too, but guess who pays for the settlement?
great job doing your research finding that extra bit about him calling to kill cops. I think your grading and explanation of both sides was great on this video!
These days its unreasonable to expect cops to enforce the law.
As demonstrated in Uvalde
A police station must be free of any hostility or intimidation. This station behavior is equal to walking to a gang territory. Very sad that we're realizing to never ever establish first contact with the police. You walking in on your own, getting out though is ....
Yep, one cop used the exact phrase "you came into our place..."
If that isn't territorial talk from a gang member, I don't know what is!
All stations in nyc are like this, this is how nypd is. Worst in America
But the police is a gang they follow the same rules as a gang.
Too bad that cops like these aren't fighting one another over who gets on the Great Resignation bandwagon first.
Don't talk to Police. Ever. Gangsters looking for a reason to flex on you. Possibly find a way to take your wallet.
🤣🤣 as a UPS driver, nearly ALL of my packages are delivered without my knowledge of what is actually in the box. Are they suggesting Mr Thomas should know potentially highly personal information contained within the envelope?
As a “UPS driver” you also wear a fucking uniform don’t you? To help identify who you’re delivering for? Why couldn’t he simply tell them who he was delivering for? This guy baited the cops into this looking for opportunity for the police to put him in that position and look for a lawsuit
@@gizoesportsradio2987 you do know that you can buy UPS branded uniform clothing on Amazon right? Branded clothing or uniforms doesn’t guarantee anything. That’s also not the point, the guy in this case doesn’t need to say anything. Additionally, when in handcuffs, being arrested, he asks “what crime have I committed?” The cop says “we’re about to find out” you can’t arrest someone if they haven’t broken a law.
@@gizoesportsradio2987 He didn't want to know who he was delivering for. He wanted to know what was in the envelope. The name of the recipient was on the envelope.
There are a lot of reasons why a plain clothes courier will drop something off for someone. One of the main reasons I can think of is I'm getting served legal papers. Un-ironically, this guy was doing just that: delivering legal papers. If a plain clothes courier were to hand me an envelope I would immediately think I'm getting sued. I would think in those instances you CAN'T tell anyone but the recipient what's in the envelope without violating the privacy of the recipient.
Their cops what you’d expect 🤷🏿♂️
@@mikeysting3635 not that. Two of my closest friends are cops and I’m friends with alot of cops on my route. None of them are remotely like this
Wer nichts hat und nichts ist,
wird Polizist.😂
Imagine being a mail man and when you’re delivering letters some guy comes out and is like “hey who are you identify yourself!!!!!!”
Cop: You can't just drop a package here and walkout
Fedex, UPS, USPS: Hold my package
… so you missed the whole part of the package being opened, he’s not in uniform, no ID, etc etc but hey, you made a funny? Maybe?
Do you know it easy to purchase those uniforms? and unlike impersonating police it is not illegal to impersonate delivery Guy!
@@djcoprerodrigues2780 sure, but that’s not at issue here. He could have bought a police uniform also. But who cares? You can hypo this all day long. The facts are the facts. Plain clothes guy delivers an open envelope, then books it out of the building saying he made a delivery and isn’t answering anything. That’s a bit strange. A delivery person wouldn’t do that. ID or uniform aside. His evasive behavior is what got him into the confrontation, that and a bunch of crazy cops.
@@robv5834 ah yes, because people never have other places to be and delivery drivers aren't famously expected to make ridiculously quick trips. It was a manila envelope that very obviously only held a couple sheets of paper at most. They could just be normal people and give the paper to the officer, or be a little bad and read someone else's mail, but instead they decided to roughly search the guy and stick him in a cell for 5 hours. Very normal behavior to do to someone for dropping off a manila envelope
@@kadengordon6941 never said the cops behavior was reasonable or normal, but you can’t argue this guys behavior was either. We also here all the time about ricin in envelopes, so although rare, it could be a valid concern. But the open envelope and silly evasive behavior of this man wasn’t normal. Arguing it was makes you look silly. As silly as the cops 😂
They're scared to open the envelope, but they don't seem to have any problem going through his pockets or his wallet.
This is crazy. If I threw a hate on my mailman can I have them arrested because I don't know what's in the package that he just delivered?
If you beat the crap out of an old lady they will just let you go.
I love how even in this day and age, police think it's okay to lay hands on people without good reason.
It's not assault if ya have a badge
F 'em all.
Putting hands on someone + PTSD+ Jujitsu = Broken Arm
@@Metqa non-sequitur +1.
"hey officer, here's a box. I'm leaving in a hurry before you open it. Good luck"
There's good reason, even if it might not be sufficient reason.
Imagine being a Santa hired for this departments Christmas party.
"HE'S GOT A BAG FULL OF PACKAGES AND WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S IN THEM, GET HIM!!!"
Cops in general are really stupid though so they probably wouldn't question some suspicious Christmas packages as long as the Santa looked professional. They'd be too caught up in the Christmas music and just having a good time stuffing their faces with food to even think twice about some Christmas packages.
They'd be like, "use your night sticks, he might have something hidden in his beard."
😂🤣😅
Gisli, you crazy. That is hilarious but real. 😂🤣😅
I love the "cop of the month" sign behind them! 😆 🤣
"Arrest him, it's paper!" I hope this man gets his paper for this idiot arrest.
NYPD continues to be an example why the people “Defund the Police” .
They're the best example. 1000s of cops that don't do shit but harass people and roam the streets like a fucing gang. I seen 3 NYPD officer on the subway this morning with assault rifles and dressed like soldiers. They're a joke.
@@johnallenbailey1103 they enforce the status quo, these piggies ain't friends
@@imawetad8870 Police and military are the "order-followers"who are directly responsible for the chaos that we live in today
Right. I guess they think being agressive and use of extreme force is doing there job. Smh
What's more stupid: 1) Continuing to rely on inept third parties for your protection who will show up after the fact, OR 2) Developing a conscious society where people look out for each other and keep self-defense awareness as a top priority?
How would a delivery team know what’s in a package? They don’t inspect it.
When I was 12 years old I delivered things like newspapers, was never given a delivery badge. At 18 I delivered pizzas, I was never given a delivery badge. When I turned 23 I started delivering products from coast to coast, I was not given a delivery badge. Even now at 50 I am still delivering within my state, I still don't have a delivery badge. So I want to know what the hell is a delivery badge these officers keep asking for?
Ah yes, I love "ATA Ep197"
BatChest
What’s not to love ? ;-)
Perfect description
I never want it to change
me too cuh
I love that the Supreme Court has held that being nervous when being confronted by a gang of armed killers is justification for detaining or arresting someone.
The government is a big gang themselves, they don’t want the people to have power to rival them, they want population control
Even killing too if they felt like it probably in most cases it wouldn't surprise me unfortunately
I say this all the time. Actually word for word
Well it's not like the NYC police would actually like choke-hold someone to death for selling individual cigarettes on the street. Gotta get that 8% tax on that $0.25 cigarette (2 cents) or society will break down. If it takes killing someone to maintain order, than so be it. \s
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Islam is an arabic word that means the Surrender to the One and Only God, our Creator, Protector, Provider, who gives us life and all that we have, we are safe and sound by his will and grace, we are His and to Him we return, and we have to thank him in this trial life by submitting to him by our free will, or later in the Day of judgment when it's too late to save our own skin. Islam was the original Religion descended to earth from heaven with Adam and Eve (peace and blessing be upon them) in the beginning of humanity. and was passed to people with the succession of the 124 000 prophets and 315 messengers of God to all nations and civilizations since, passing by Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Ismaël, Joseph, Moses, Aaron, Joshua, David, Solomon and Jesus (Peace and blessing be upon them) during the history of mankind, the last replaces and completes the previous, until the succession of the last messenger of God fourteen centuries ago, Muhammad (Peace and blessing be upon him) to complete the noble morals of all mankind, to bring humans and jinns out of darkness into light, and to purify people's religion and belief from corruption and polytheism, and return it to purity and true monotheism, like it was in the times of the prophets (Peace and blessing be upon them).
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Allah said in Surah Al-Ikhlas : In the name of God, the Gracious, the Merciful.
Say, “He is God, the One. God, the Absolute. He begets not, nor was He begotten. And there is none comparable to Him.” (1-4 / Translated by ITANI).
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It is they whose works shall come to nought both in this world and in the life to come; and they shall have none to succour them.
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So apparently "reasonable suspicion" exists when you volentarally enter their hive mind to drop off an envelope with paperwork to challenge their official position on a matter.
I swear cops get dumber and dumber everyday..😒
If they had treated it like a chemical scare and stayed away from the package, it would be reasonable.
THEY DIDN'T THOUGH
Imagine being a cop and being afraid of a piece of paper/envelope. Those guys are in the wrong job.
meh, i would say thats reasonable... Just odd to them. Does not warrant this behavior, possibly warrants quarantining the package and inspecting it first. But there was no reason to grab this dude
Who needs to imagine what we can already see for real?
@@cody6394 Your post makes no sense. If they felt threatened over the package, they would have the right to question why they are delivering it
@@chocolatecoveredgummybears not to the degree they went. Odd package from a delivery man does not warrant strip searching someone doing their job.
I'm assuming you were not yet around when the whole anthrax situation happened. 2001 terrorists were lacing letters and documents with a bacteria, that with contact or breathed in can spread anthrax, a deadly disease. This not only affected the letter that was tainted, but any other letter that came in contact as it went through the post system, or anything a hand sent letter came into contact with, desks, other papers, etc. So yes, even today mail is screened and scanned for posible contaminates. While that don't warrant what these officers did, saying people shouldn't be scared of a package that has no lable and just the name of someone is warrant for some concern. But reacting the way these cops did was way over the top.
Nervousness shouldn’t be a criteria for probable cause especially when a police officer triggers fear and not safety. The only man with a gun who can literally do anything they want and I’m not supposed to be nervous.
Why didn't he just like, say he was delivering a package for "NAME" and move on? This seems very unnecesary.
A courier doesn't know every time what he's delivering. The cops should have read whose it is, contacted him, and held it in a safe box. Or called the bomb squad; they obviously didn't clear the room, floor or building.
The COURIER is the guy who wrote the papers in the envelope, watch and listen.
@@stevejames9510 That doesn't change the op's comment. If I'm a courier delivering a letter, the contents of that letter is not my responsibility. Which is why you don't shoot the messenger. If they straitened something criminal, they should have taken safety precautions while detaining him. They did not because their goal was to flex nuts instead.
@@lamario Reading comprehension is dead in this world
But they didn't know that he was the author, they only had that he said he was only the messenger.
@@stevejames9510 talks about reading comprehension but only talks about 1/3 of the first comments main point
3:45 Actually it was more dangerous for the plane clothes officer to put his hands the guy without identifying himself as a cop.
To place your hand on someone in such a fashion constitutes assault and it can (and often will) trigger a justified self defense counterattack.
The officer could be seriously injured in such an attack.
Grabbing someone from behind is extremely dangerous, especially if you know nothing about the person you are grabbing. A person who has had extensive training in hand-to-hand combat and a bad case of PTSD can kill on pure instinct without stopping to think about it.
I had a friend who had been in the Army, in combat. In a bar he got into a dispute with another very drunk patron (my friend wasn't drunk) and when he turned to walk away the drunk asshole grabbed him from behind.
What happened next happened so fast I still don't know what exactly happened.
The drunk guy didn't die, but he spent two weeks in a coma, and I heard he was never quite the same again.
Never ever grab someone from behind.
Dumb cops 👮♂️ 😒 everywhere
"The officer could be seriously injured...."
You say that as if it was a bad thing.
@@3OBTPA It would be. Because his nearby cohorts would quickly avenge him with extravagant expenditure of ammunition, leaving an innocent man dead.
@Stuey Sienfeld And what would happen if it was a cop who made that mistake, with other cops around?
Would you manage to stay out of jail, or the morgue?
Its plain clothes not plane ✈️ clothes. Just a lighthearted tip. Ive been on both sides. People get distracted by such giggle moments.