How To Turn A Simple Question Into A MASSIVE LAWSUIT
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New Jersey Revised Statute 2C:29-1: tinyurl.com/423smxrc
United States v. Jacobsen- tinyurl.com/b7sfkneu
Hiibel v. Sixth Judicial Dist. Court of Nev., Humboldt Cty.- tinyurl.com/2fkyk6uc
Florida v. Royer- tinyurl.com/mrbw9btx
Terry v. Ohio- tinyurl.com/mrtuxmts
State v. Camillo- tinyurl.com/47428yp3
State v. Perlstein- tinyurl.com/dtddpv43
Hold on. Hold on... They illegally detained him, then charged him for crimes he didn't commit, and then offered to drop the criminal charges in exchange for money? Most people call that kidnapping for ransom.
Good Point.
America
Extortion. Pay us this fine or we'll charge you with a crime.
American police cowardly logic. Officers like that SHOULD BE SENTENCED FOR LIFE!!!!
A.K.A. bail
Cops saying, "You were getting smart with me" is a key indicator of a power trip.
Ego trumps ethics ..
Yeah, that key phrase was the red flag that they were not dealing with reasonable cops.
I have never, ever, heard anyone utter the words "don't get smart with me" except to bully someone into submitting, because they can't win a rational discussion.
May as well say "I am low IQ, bossy, and demand submission".
It's what parents say when they _want_ to say "shut up and do what you're told", but deep down understand that sounds kinda a55enine, so they rephrase it.
Officers generally don't like when a citizen is Smarter than they are... so they generally have a problem with all citizens!
It’s not. Pay attention to what the cop says. He is repeating everything he learned in _training_
Yeah contempt of cop they call it
This kid is really well versed in his rights and spoke respectfully the entire time. It is scary to think about what what happened to people before cellphone and body cameras.
It STILL happens with the cameras. I have watched far too many videos where the cops act as if they aren't wearing cams. They get away with it regardless. UNbelievable!!
People just fucking identified and went on about their day lol
@@toddbell508 what a shit take
@@toddbell508Move to China where you have no rights if that’s what you like buddy. This is the USA 🇺🇸.
@@toddbell508I guess it was hard for you to pay attention to the video with that boot so far down your throat
The fact that courts say you have to blatantly say that you’re using your right to remain silent is just crazy to me. You shouldn’t have to say it, it should be the default
Rights aren't super powers you turn on and off like SHAZAM hahahahab
You'd think remaining silent is an obvious invokation of the right to remain silent 🤷
Cop: "You have the right to remain silent."
Citizen: "I'll exercise that right."
Cop: "You're under arrest for obstruction of justice."
And the number of cops that believe this is shocking. Complaints are pointless, that is why you have to sue. The police department and the city, the mayor, etc., will almost always say the police handled things properly.
whats worse is they did nt even get that far, because they werent arresting them. they took their right away before reading it to them.
Lol
He should have stopped talking at the start..stop arguing
@@jemshadow123okay, fascist!
"You're not incriminating yourself , you're answering a question.", said no defense lawyer ever.
"So... now that that's clear... did you kill that guy?"
@@stephengrigg5988 Bwah hah ha!
Thanks I needed that laugh.
@@stephengrigg5988 🤣👏🏻
🤦🏾♂️
Tell me you do not understand the law without saying you do not understand the law.
Cop: Don’t get smart with me.
Me: I wouldn’t want to confuse you.
I'm going to remember that one . That will baffle the goon squad up here for a week or two 😅
@@heathboeddeker5401 my brother used it on my mom back in the day. She whooped him for it but it was hilarious 😂 😂😂😂
HAAAA GOOD ONE,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,DUMMIES,,,,,,MAKE UP STUFF AS WE GO ALONG
It’s amazing that you can do nothing wrong but still end up in handcuffs and arrested , No matter what calls the officer gets
Pro-tip: Never take legal advice from a cop.
What whatever you do, don't be 'smart'... 🤣
@@crimony3054 what what in the butt.
Hell you can't even take it from lawyers these days.🤦♂️
Are they even allowed to give legal advice?
Why is a large part of the picture blanked out? Are the cops scared of showing what actually happened?
This officer continually accusing him of being a smartass is such a pos. You aren't allowed to infringe on their ego without getting accused of being a smartass.
To a dumb ass everyone is being a smart ass by asserting their rights. There are no Rhodes Scholars looking to get into the police academy.
@notfiveo Why not?
He sounds drunk. The way his speech is slightly slurred sounds like he had a few shots before the encounter.
Saying he's just asking a question , 'not trying in incriminate' him, but later tells him "we got a call on the car, not on you or her"..
I dont think he ever said that. He says "Dont get smart". That is WAY worse.
Fire these two. Period. No more employment in law enforcement ANYWHERE.
YES GOOD IDEA ,,,,,,,,HOW MANY TIMES HAVE THEY DONE THIS TO OTHER FOLKS/?,,,,,,,,,MANY YEARS AGO I WAS STOPPED AT NIGHT BY POLICE ,,,,,,NO REASON FOR STOP,,,,,,,ORDERED OUT AT GUN POINT ,.....HELD AT GUNPOINT WHILE MY VAN / HOUSE CAR WAS SEARCHED ,,,,,,AFTER 10 MIN. OR SO THE DUMMIES TOSSED MY WALLET ON GROUND AND LEFT ME THERE HANDS STILL UP,,,,,,,,I LOST RESPECT FOR COPS AT THAT POINT
OH A HOUSE CAR NEEDS A WARRENT SIGNED MY A JUDGE TO SEARCH
"reasonable suspicion" to a police officer means: EVERYTHING THAT MAKES ME FEEL DISRESPECTED.
How did 2 random citizens know more about the law than every police officer on the scene and the state prosecutor?
// 😮😂
The prosecutor knew the cops messed up. That offer was to build a foundation for defense in a lawsuit
It's good to understand the rules of the games you play.
Because ignorance to the law isn't an excuse, so civilians learn the law and their rights.
Ignorance to the law is encouraged for the police, because they are protected by qualified immunity.
😂😂😂😂😂 2 Random KIDS!
I love how knowing your rights is you "getting smart"
Anything that's not doing exactly what they want without question is "getting smart"
Cops hate smart..
I’d rather be smart than a sheep following these wolves
Point blank period, fire that cop! 🤦♂️
sounds like what a scammer says over the phone "dont be over smart" lol
"You're not incriminating yourself, you're answering questions" -.-
Fire him, please.
You should do a series of videos for each state so viewers can learn which of these search and ID laws apply to them
Just Google it. There are only 23 stop and ID states. Thank God I don't live in one ...not that it matters. 😢
Oooh, that's an amazing idea! I was just thinking today that I should Google illegal stop videos in my state and then scroll through and watch all the AtA videos I could field from my state, but then I was worried that wouldn't work because the state usually isn't in the title...😕
A series would be amazing.
Mad respect to the couple for exercising their rights and not folding to the officers demands.
Or the prosecutor's
@@markbrown8097 that prosecutor should be fired
respect? Both of them now have arrests on their records... good luck getting a good job. Oh sure, he can explain the situation, and even show them the video. Guess what, most HR departments won't care...
@@TEverettReynolds annnnnddd how does that not earn them my respect? Our society is corrupt and broken....ur point?
When they start with I don't answer questions we know what's up
Can you guys just imagine what happened before these cameras were a thing? It's actually so scaryy.
These cops should be ashamed that two random citizens are better at descalation than they are.
Oh Exactly! Remember the poll taken in 2017 among cops? Yes or No, if given the opportunity to have an easier job, better hours, better benefits and DOUBLE PAY... WOuld you leave law enforcement??
85% said NO.
DOUBLE PAY!!! STILL NO! 😂
says it
All
Ned Kelly situations
It wasn’t just scary, people were permanently disabled or even murdered. People who were not committing crimes, who had no history of committing crimes.
@@billybowman3891 wild yo. Are there any incident reports?
I love how knowing your rights means your being combative
All because someone called , so that gives them the right to bother people
How frustrating is it when cops use aggressive language like "You got 'smart' with me." This young man is doing a very good job of not letting these THUG COPS violate his rights.
You're expected to know the law to not commit crimes… but you're expected to NOT know the law when the cops are the ones committing the crimes.
Imagine as a private citizen snapping at anyone in public and saying "don't get smart with me." These thugs probably aren't as tough without their badges and guns on...losers
Exercising your Constitutional Rights isn't "getting smart." Way too many cops believe this.
@@runswithraptors they have a gang mentality, you can count on that. pick them alone, unarmed and without a radio to call reinforcements and see the difference
@@drantil they don't say shit when they're alone. Backup shows up then they're all big and bad!!😂😂
“You’re obstructing an investigation” just seems like an excuse to arrest someone for not listening to unlawful commands
Bingo.
Your learning
*sniff* I smell marijuana.
@@ajolleyduck2933 doesn't matter in NJ anymore
These cops don’t even know what obstruction means. They’ve been taught to weaponize those words to get an arrest
Homey said;
“ YOU GOT SMART WITH US”
Apparently, 99% of law enforcement officers in the U.S. need to attend a six-week seminar on the definition of the word "reasonable".
I hate that things are determined by use of words like that. It should be clear cut for the common man. It should be either/or and not something to be determine by a judge later on.
4th amendment, in general.
I have literally never met a cop who understood the 4th amendment.
They ALL think they can escalate it, then your right goes away, somehow.
That's unreasonable!
Also the meaning of "obstruction" under the applicable statutes.
I think that a basic google-level i.q. test would be enough. None of the officers i ever saw acting like this in this channel are capable of articulate the most rudimentary linear thought process required by an elementary school essay. At least in my country is clear-cut: do as a cop says or he shoots you and nothing happens.
"You not incriminating yourself your just answering questions " trust me I'm a police officer. I'm here to help you
Help you into a cell
You're**
@@Alex-rl4uy 🙄
Says every pig lol
You’re
Nice channel. It occurs to me that having playlists by state would be helpful as I’m more interested in states I live in and plan to travel. Thanks for all the hard work on these videos. Super informative.
1776 bitd? In order to form a more perfect UNION our forefathers created a Union of Equal LAW, so that travel and personal safety was assured. i.e. NOT the Europe of their ancestors.
Someone called us, so we have an obligation to violate as many rights as humanly possible in the shortest amount of time.
How can this kid have a better understanding of the law than these “law enforcement” officers. These officers are a menace.
It makes a difference to him.
All cops are menaces
So according to the officer, you are allowed to refuse to give id and then the officer can arrest you in which case you have to give id. Does that sound right to you you? Sounds like coercion to me.
The pigs know the law, they just don't give a shit about it when they think it serves their purpose to 'ignore' the law.
Because he “got smart”.
Cops egos getting hurt, and then escalating every situation will never stop pissing me off
Nope. The boy, girl and grey truck matched the description of the call. failing to identify is therefore obstruction to the investigation.
These Police Is Being Over Zealous Who Care If Their Feelings Are Being Bruised And Then They Get Aggressive And Continue To Escalate The Situation
@@donDanDeNiro You just watched a whole video with case studies presented, and you're talking about they were obstructing. Are you ok in the head? Cops don't get to abuse their power just because people don't want to deal with them
@@donDanDeNiro boot lickers gonna lick
@@donDanDeNiro You NEVER have to talk to the cops and only need to ID if you are suspected of a crime or violation and they need RAS for that.
“We got a call…” most cops using this phrase feel that this gives them carte blanch to do anything they want to do - every action becoming “lawful.”
Unlawfully Arresting a person is kidnapping and a dozen other crimes. These cops should be fired for this. They know what they were doing is wrong. And the cops get to investigate and arrest you because of a phone call.
What the hell is that . The caller needs to be charged with a crime for starting this whole mess.
Citizens knowing their rights is getting smart. This is why these videos are good and necessary.
Lol
Until it turns into sovereign citizens who have literally no idea what modernized laws are
@@WTCheatShaming common sense isnt common, no idea what you're on about but i assume this applies
This lawyer is pro cop. He keeps conveniently leaving out how to hold police accountable.
This video proves it.
If an officer arrest you and doesn't articulate the crime he suspects you of committing or especially investigating, you can resist arrest and if you get injured, you can sue for a lot more and subject the officer to civil litigation since he not only broke policy but the law as well when you got injured (assault).
1: The Audit the Audit guy is not a lawyer, just well versed in case law surrounding citizen rights around police. 2: resisting arrest, even an unlawful arrest is STILL a crime. And resisting is a good way to die or never walk again, better to get your payday/justice in court then to be morally right and 6 feet under.
Basically because he doesn't want to help them with their investigation, he's being smart and has to be arrested. Cops have gone mad!
In a better place, a citizen would use the second amendment to defend themselves.
@@categoricamente1753 From the cops?
@@toddmorningstar4206 constitutionally if they’re illegally assaulting you, you have the right to self defense. In practice that’s not honored though so officers seem to think they have absolute authority whether what they’re demanding is legal or not.
Cops may have gone mad, but why didn't the prosecutor immediately drop the charges, when they are so clearly in the wrong?
Kanye was right.
I love your videos, you actually follow up with things
We need more channels like this
It's insane how they can just say the magic words "you're under arrest" and then you suddenly have to identify yourself or you get another charge even when the initial arrest was unlawful. It all stacks.
It’s all a bunch of bullshit, the system is a scam, we’re indoctrinated in our schools to follow without question. It all adds up to a totalitarian regime
I don’t know about where they are but in Texas you only have to ID after you have been lawfully arrested.
@@markmixon1121 that's likely true everywhere but it's another charge to fight and you'd need to prove the initial arrest was unlawful.
@@markmixon1121 Kinda, though in Texas it is only a crime to not ID if you have been lawfully arrested, whether or not you have been lawfully arrested is a matter for the court. You are always safer by IDing after arrest
The USA is a joke yo😂😂😂
"We got a call" quickly turns to "Can I see some ID?", which then turns to escalation and an innocent person in handcuffs on the way to jail. That is the playbook for law enforcement in the US. Kudos to this kid for defending his constitutional rights, I hope he wins big in a lawsuit
Yeah good luck in n Korea …
France .,..
England :.. etc
Etc etc china most of these constitutional rights that these cops are breaking don’t exist in other countries ….
Go to Canada and mouth off
To the cops …. Good luck 😅😅😅
@@mycaddigo Nobody is talking about China or N. Korea. I lived in S. Korea, spent time in Canada, France and England. Cops over there don't even carry guns, you have no idea what you're talking about
He should use that money to go after the reason he was there. It sounds as if there was supposed to be a handover of a child for visitation and the person chose to call the cops on them instead of give the kid over…. Perhaps he showed up early and was waiting there. Not sure if it is her or his kid, but odds are a disgruntled ex is involved because of that new boy/girlfriend they are irrational and abusing the law. Cops sure hooked that person up!
This was custodial interference on to of constitutional abuses.
@@evalex71 I lived in Canada for 30 years, cops routinely run roughshod over your 'rights', in fact, advocating for your rights will often get you a "what do you think this is, the US?" response from police. lawsuits are basically non-existent here because payouts are minimal, so lawyers and, more importantly, individuals who have been wronged don't bother pursuing them unless you are rich/ want to voluntarily go bankrupt.
How are you so sure he is innocent. Think it's more likely he was not.
These guys are horrible. Entire police department needs to be investigated. Firing the officers won’t do any long term to fix the problem.
this channel needs to come up with a network of lawyers to help these wrongfully accosted people and sue the local governments in behalf of the innocent people and make money in the process and publicize and remove the police for abuse of authority and civil rights abuse
"You're not incriminating yourself, you're answering questions." Nice, they open their mouth, and they immediately lie. The biggest lie the police ever tell is that they are heroes.
They proved what heroes they are in Uvalde!👿💩🐷🐷🐷🐷🐷
they're trained to screw you over.
No they are unless you put your life on the line every day stop making up bulshit
They're just as much heroes as homelander is from The Boys.
Not true. There are MANY good cops out there. Unfortunately, we only see the videos of the DOUCHEBAGS like these two morons who obviously were just given their badges despite not knowing any of the laws that they swear to uphold...
_”No need to get smart with a police officer.”_
Stay on their level and remain stupid.
:
😂😂😂
They will beat you with experience
Not hard to get smart with a cop after all most cops took 16 years or more to go from k to 12.
ROBERT JORDAN, THE MAN WHO CONNECTICUT POLICE SAID WAS ‘TOO SMART TO BE A COP’
In 1997, the 46-year-old sued his local police department after being denied a job there because he scored too high on an intelligence test. More bizarre still, the courts sided with law enforcement"
@@the_even_toed_ungulate. And a nightstick
The cop quite literally says that he’s only iding him because he “got smart” with him.
This was a really good analysis.
It’s time to start holding prosecutors accountable as well. If they’re prosecuting a clearly unlawful arrest, knowing it’s unlawful, they should face consequences.
Should be a form of treason, where they serve mandatory minimum prison sentences and can never serve in a government position again.
@@kybalion848 Treason is aiding and abetting the enemy. There's no enemy here. What the hell makes you jump to treason? Because they didn't follow the law as written? Rediculus
Yes, they should. The problem is that it's so difficult to find a prosecutor liable for unlawful prosecution. You would have to prove that they intentionally prosecuted you knowing it was wrong. We can't really prove what people know or don't know.
@@Boggyboytad Well, there are a plethora of City, State, and Federal charges can certainly be brought against these officers.
Just go after their bonds!
the whole "don't get smart with a police officer" and "keep it that way. KEEP IT THAT WAY". was a direct threat right off the bat
I could feel the bad vibes emanating from that statement.
💯
In England police say "nothing to hide, nothing to worry about" like it's check mate at that point
Right ? You don’t get smart with the police. The police get smart with you and dare you to do something about it.
The correct response to that is "In response to your comment, which could be perceived as threatening and potentially retaliatory and intending to inhibit my right of free speech, Officer, I hereby inform you that the Supreme Court has ruled that a civilian may speak freely to police, even cursing and using derogatory language, all as part of their First Amendment right of free speech. On request I will be more than happy to recite specific examples of such speech - not, of course, meaning anything derogatory to any officers present, but only for educational purposes, you understand."
The whole system needs to be dismantled and overhauled constitutionally!
Constitutionally? Lol
Mr ATA. thank you for your confirmation, i typed my suggestion prior to hearing your exact recommendation. It does work. everyone try it on your next visit by these people.
Crazy how questioning a cop is getting "smart".
Dude should have said, "I can't get smart with you because you wouldn't understand".
Yeah, I am getting smarter than you!
@@bobbylee6859 I would have said "somebody in this interaction needs to be smart"
When they say “are you getting smart?”… simply say “No not at all. I’m trying to get YOU smart!”… they really hate it trust me lol
OFFICER "I'm not getting smart, I'm already smart, and officer if you were smart, you wouldn't be so busy trying to escalate this situation and getting us to do your INVESTIGATION.!
I love it when cops ADMIT they violate the rights of every person they interact with. How can they continue to be cops and do this?
Start giving the DA a rating. They deserve some more attention for trying to pressure them into a plea deal even through they were innocent.
YES.
This country needs a lot of reform... But if we start with the DAs...other institutions will follow.
I agree. There is not near enough attention given to the underhanded, sleazy, illegal, morally bankrupt DAs. Some knowingly prosecute innocent people and put them in prison just to make their percentage look good. Prison is where DAs belong that hold back exculpatory evidence.
Good idea!
YAAAAAAS
DAs are elected officials that typically campaign that they'll be tough on crime. I mean nobody wants a DA who doesn't know how to get a conviction for the thieves, rapists, and other miscreants in the community. Furthermore, DAs are beholden to the PD for all their evidence in court. Therefore, DAs never want to antagonize PDs for fear of reprisal. All the chief has to do is tell his cops to go soft on investigations, suddenly the DA looks incompetent and loses re-election. Just look at what happened with Nurse Wubbels. The cop was recorded saying that he would start sending more homeless patients to that hospital because they suddenly refused to allow them draw blood on a patient without a warrant. So, don't think for a second that the actions of cops don't have sinister enablers within the community.
This is why young Americans should get involved and run for office!!
this information is so simple and so well documented .. it blows my mind that so many "trained" officers don't know this. Unlike most of these videos .. these guys seem like decent officers. Why wouldn't they have been informed about this basic issue.
It’s not that they don’t know, it’s that they don’t care. They know that no one can be demanded to identify themself unless they’re driving.
I love the part where the officer blatantly lies to his superviser about what happened.
They all do that. Then they look stupid hrs later going thru video footage
The silence of the supervisor is lovely too, he knows what's going on, but SU because the cameras are on.
Exactly lies lies lies those 2 both should be fired
I always wonder with these exactly what moment do the officers begin to realize that they royally screwed up and that within the next couple of months this is going to come back to bite them in the butt.
They're not cops, they're SS soldiers of the American Gestapo
Very interesting. Good vids.
Love that the dude knows about stop and ID laws
These cops are something else. “Why won’t you let us violate your rights!!?”
“Because you have no Reasonable articulable suspicion to warrant me to forfeit my rights!”
Yep, two more coproaches who are clueless what rights violations are and acted illegally when forcing the citizens to do something against their will when they had not committed a crime or infraction. FTP, keep earning the hate parasites!
Sometimes it's really embarrassing when kids know more of the law than those who are employed to enforce it.
Sometimes?!?!? Don't you mean ALL 😆 these cops are pathetic
I think it's refreshing!!!...not all of our younger generation have been contaminated and permanently ruined by their public school indoctrination and actually know how to use the brain God gave them...keep up the good work!!!
They know most laws, they just try to convince you to do their biding.
Too bad most just scream and shout "I can't breathe!" for social clout & media likes instead of using their heads & building lawsuits.
@@anonygrazer3234 youre a sad human being.
AMEN ❤ Sue those tyrants!!!
Mr. Daniel's gets an A++ in my book. While he was being questioned he was respectful and the only arguing he did was in support of his constitutional rights. Way to go.
This will never stop until officers are actually held accountable. Sadly, that will never happen.
It will also stop as soon as LEOs get a proper training and education. That's how developed countries handle that problem...
Colorado passed a law that the cops can be individually sued and the cops themselves have to pay out from their own pocket.
A few months after the murder of George Floyd by Minneapolis police officer Derek Chauvin, Colorado lawmakers passed a qualified immunity ban for law enforcement officers. It allows officers to be sued individually with a cap of up to $25,000.
Now the other 49 states and the federal government need to follow this.
Yep, no accountability for these officers from the court system or their department means they want them to act this way. If cops do something like this and they go unpunished, it simply means they are ok with the cops doing it. It's the sad reality we live in.
It's up to us to hold them accountable. Keep recording and when they break the law we allow them to, so we can beat their ass in court. Overtime the police stations were learn to educate new cops on stuff like this. Especially if they keep having to doll out settlements.
@@Mike_416 it’s been like that
How is it that in 2023 these guys STILL don't know how to do their jobs. A mechanic who can't fix cars gets fired, a cook who burns food gets fired. A cop who violates the law and earns lawsuits gets promoted.
Easy question to answer .. Mechanics and Cooks are not in a National Union that can call on legal resources that can both buck and manipulate the system ...
Many, many cops do their job out of a sense of duty to the community. I applaud them.
A fair number do it because if they tried to be a mechanic and fix cars, they'd get fired when the cars aren't fixed. I just hope they're not too bullheaded to get better at it.
And a handful do it because they want to bully people. That sort finds their way into these kinds of videos disproportionately often. And really should be screened out of any line of work with implied authority. That sort shouldn't even be a shift manager at a fast food place. If that sort gets into a leadership position in a precinct, then that municipality will soon have a 'gang problem' and they'll be wearing uniforms.
@@Ronin-tp4vx resources that we pay for and are used against us. All fixed.
Not to mention they get a paid vacation while their boss "investigates" the issue, then get to attend remedial training with full pay when they return. It's such a fucking joke.
...because also in Nazi Germany or the Soviet Union Police like this couldn´t get fired! Don´t you realize it`?
What doesn't someone just "I'm not giving you my ID so please arrest me so i can win a law suit."
The world's most justified "Karens"
Should be a minimum of 6 months in prison for any officer that does this. I bet it would make them actually learn the law and uphold it correctly.
Agreed
THIS IS THE STUPIDEST COMMENT IT COST 40k TO HOUSE A INMATE FOR A YEAR
Jon macnevin that is a stupid answer. Why would the people pay tax dollars for someone who threatens them?
@@ChrisHodge1978 dumb ass solution. Sounds like you people want someone to do something for you
@@LYFT3D You pay tax dollars to keep people off the streets that break the law, these cops are breaking the law. So that would be money well spent if you ask me.
The cop literally says “I don’t think you did anything wrong” that’s an admission to no crime he lost his case at that point.
And the guy the cops were talking to 'literally says' "I don't want to incriminate myself". That's effectively an admission that he has criminal action to hide.
Courts have ruled cops are allowed to lie
@@markstone1619 that’s not enough probable cause to arrest someone. You have to have a statute to arrest someone.
@@codbdup88 Nowhere did I say, or even think, they had anything to arrest someone on.
But they did have ample probable cause to question both subjects, due to the unusual accuracy of the description the 911 caller gave.
Investigations also often develop probable cause to arrest. In this case, the two subjects thwarted any investigation.
@@markstone1619 you said he had something criminal to hide. Saying I don’t wanna incriminate myself doesn’t mean your trying to hide crimes you’ve done. Innocent ppl get arrested a lot and most ppl are nervous and anything they say can be twisted.
This was awesome, seeing kids who know their rights & didnt back down when the cops tried to b.s. them.
Reasonably Articulable Suspicion OF A CRIME !!!!! They keep forgetting about a crime involved. No crime, no ID !!
When cops describe asserting your rights as "getting smart" they need to be thrown in jail.
For real.
Absolutely, we have rights as citizens and exercising your rights should never be criticized especially by law enforcement. If the person is wrong, the officers can correct them and if mistakes are made on either end, they can be addressed. If the officers are running up against people's rights, they need to find another way instead of just trampling over them.
*fired
@@valdes77 Nah, jail. Obviously it's not currently a criminal offense to grossly violate someone's rights, but I'd be fine with criminal statutes being passed to criminalize it. Civil penalties obviously aren't enough. This is just what you're seeing now that cameras are ubiquitous. Before cameras were everywhere, this stuff still happened, and worse. Imagine what you haven't seen. This is just the tip of the iceberg, and violating people's rights is a common occurrence in law enforcement.
The cops need to have actual consequences happen to them when they violate people's rights, and civil consequences aren't getting the job done. Cops still routinely act this way and even claim to be trained to act this way. Maybe if they could be actually held criminally responsible, they would change their behavior. Or if not, we'd have a good remedy.
I would not have denied getting smart. I would have said, "I'm already smart and certainly smarter than you. I know the law and I know my rights. I'm exercising my 5th. I'm not IDing and I'm not answering your questions. So please, I'm begging you to arrest me. I'm looking forward to suing the city for hundreds of thousands based on your ignorance of the law. Here are my hands. I DARE you to put the cuffs on me!"
UPDATE: The two officers who first attended the call lost the lawsuit and were held accountable for the unlawful arrest and search of both the man and the woman. I am not sure what the department did with the police officers, they may have been suspended, or demoted, I don't know. All that matters is they were held accountable for their wrong-doings. Those two officers were disgusting.
Suspended,demoted Lmffo like most situations like these , they get promoted
@absolutelynot10
I guarantee the cops themselves paid nothing nor did they lose their certificate.
Horsewhipping renegade cops is desparately needed.
@@MT-kx2ucthis guy gets it
These cops should be jailed
I can tell that whatis going on in the world is troubling you as much as it is me!
Could you list the department and agents involved in your thumbnails? Sometimes it takes me awhile to find the video I want to review.
By offering a plea deal, the prosecutor is just trying to prevent these people from suing the police and the prosecutor from having to charge the police with false arrest. I'm glad to hear that the couple are not having it! I wish them well.
If the prosecutor did his job he would know there is no basis for the arrest in the first place so by offering a plea deal instead he is complicit in the corruption and incompetence and should be a party to any law suit as well.
@@peterbuckley3877 💯!!! The US (in)justice system is beyond a joke at this point. It’s supposedly “innocent until proven guilty”, while in reality it operates the other way around. The government and our “civil servants” are basically a mob and their lackeys. It’s shameful, embarrassing, and overall absurdly dangerous and enraging..
Does the prosecutor not know the law either? If he watched the body cams he could clearly see that this couple surely knows their rights and laws, so he trying to pull, that should be another fraudulent charge.
@@cindyk6411 it appears that the only people who actually knew the law weren’t the police or anybody actually paid to know it.
@@peterbuckley3877 facts
"No need to get smart with me." That's telling AF.
I Love how they spend so much time trying to justify their actions to him. What a bunch of tools.
Yeah massive bully and power tripper.
@@UnderbellyNZ yep
Should have told him that someone needs to have a little intelligence on the scene, and obviously it wasn't going to be him.
I wish he asked them to explain how he was getting smart and whether that was a crime ?!
The cops simply telling him why they were out there could have prevented the whole ordeal.
This is so frustrating. It keeps happening.
We should not have to verbally invoke the 5th amendment for it to be valid in court. Nowhere in the amendment does it say anything about having to actively invoke it. It's an inalienable right and shame on the courts for twisting it.
If you look at that Texas case, the guy did not use his right to remain silent from the start. If he did, he probably would have kept his 5th amendment protections.
Actually, @StuffBenLikes, AtA has shown, time and again, that you have to invoke your 5th Amendment right at all times for it to be valid. Your wanting, or need, to doesn't change the law.
It's a rigged game where only one side typically knows the rules.
@@austen98 The law is the 5th amendment, and it's pretty plainly written. Requiring it to be specifically invoked is against the written law. The courts have changed the law and we should be upset, not "that's the way things are."
@@austen98 But hey, keep bootlicking and ignore the plainly written 5th amendment and side with the government who has twisted it!
"You have a right to refuse, but then we have a right to arrest you."
That is not how rights work.
I literally lol'd when he said that
I know he just contradicts himself over and over it hurts I feel so bad for these people
You could beat a case by yourself with the research and information provided by this channel
The cops assertion that "no ID = Obstruction" is trotted out so many times that it must be being taught as a goto arrest tactic. The supervisors and training academies must face some hard questioning to get any accountability.
Cops love vague and ambiguous magic spells like "Disorderum", "Obstructicus", and "Resistorium" to cast on people to poof them away to the dungeon. They are happy to arrest people for resisting arrest like some sort of twisted Ouroboros. Many of them think they're allowed to walk up to random people on the street for no reason and demand ID and people are required to give it to them just because they're cops. The whole world has a cop problem.
If this was allowed (using obstruction charges) then there is no point in having the right to not identify.
"I got a call here, so I have a reason to be here.... that means you have to id yourself."
I have heard this at least 20 times, from different officers.
It's the same reason for pulling you out of your car, "For Officer safety".
Maybe they are taught to tell people that, as a lie, to get them to identify. But then later after the training they forget that it is only a lie. I also suspect they think anything that obstructs their investigation is illegal rather than understand exactly what the obstruction law defined as obstruction.
I love how they turn these 2 into criminals while ignoring the actual reason why they were looking for 2 suspects in a truck to begin with.
There were two criminals there, it turns out.
They’ve got ADHD
Yeah, total incompetence from these two 'officers'. Just to add though, there were no suspects, is was a domestic incident involving a custody dispute, no crime was even suspected of being committed.
@@gabrieltippery3873 yes, there were 2 police officers there, so you're right, there were criminals there
@@gomez_tooraw3378 I think that’s what they meant.
Kid knew more than the cop
If you can
Don't talk to them
Then
Don't talk to them
“It’s not a crime to be suspicious”
Well… he has a point
no but , if the phone call comes in about 2 people matching their discerption you stop and detain them until you can clear them from the investigation
@Henry Tudor depending on what the accusations are. Anybody can make a phone call. That doesn't obligate people to have to ID themselves.
@@PalaceofPlacentia it was civil. there was no reason for it to lead to an arrest especially because it was a civil matter. the only thing these officers should’ve done was make contact with the caller and explain that it’s civil and the proper route would be going to a court house. then left.
@@taisheramedley9595 if the suspects tried to be civil they wouldnt be an issue
@@TheDuke78 this video is bull shit someone set them up for the fall. you either want the cops to investigate crime or you dont. its that simple , if people had respect and shut thier big gobs we would all get along fine
OFFICERS NEED TO FACE CRIMINAL CHARGES for making up stories and making up fake charges. This cant go on.
YEA LIKE THE COP SAYING GIRL WAS SWINGING AT THEM WTF!!! Freaking Liars, like the Cameras Would automatically Change those lies!!!😂
Qualified immunity will make sure they do not face charges. Until that goes away, nothing gets fixed.
These cops wouldn't get employed as a cop in any other country.
@Jessie Urge a they wear a body cam so if they lie, the evidence won't support it & they are not allowed to turn the body cam off.
@@jaysonmarquez7524cops can and do lie.
Love your show
I think you could have made it clear that we need to scream out for our rights. Without giving them a minus for doing that exact thing. Without screaming out that's what they're doing. What law says we have to scream it out to remain silent
I once asked a cop if being suspicious is a crime, and what deems one suspicious. they said no not by itself, and what deems one suspicious is whatever they believe that'll support reasonable suspicion, I rebuttaled with then all you need for reasonable suspicion to detain someone is a belief even a false believe or a wrong belief. In short they said essentially they can create a false belief to support the ARS to them detain and potentially arrest someone. They said its then up to the courts to determine if it was lawful or unjustified. They dont need to call a sergeant or supervisor and by doing so is th3n being nice. It seems like a very easily exploited loophole used to harass people and supported by dept and sop
So proud of this young man for knowing his rights and clearly articulating them to these numbnuts.
He's a first-amendment auditor, that's literally what he does. 😒
The irony is lost on the LEO that kept saying, "Don't get smart with me."
I'm assuming he also has friends call in fake 911 calls with a description to match himself also.
@@I.____.....__...__ Long Island Audits covered the story it’s not him in the video dummy
@@I.____.....__...__ I don't think it was ever stated that the couple were auditors.
Long Island Audit posted the video originally, but those people are not LIA.
“You have the right to remain silent”
“Not answering questions is obstructing”
Arrested for contempt of cop.
I love how being aware of the law and your rights, and being willing to exercise them, is automatically being 'smart' with officers.
The lengths one must go through to hold one of these idiots accountable is staggering.
In civil court, yeah. But that’s not the only lawful avenue of attack.
Any rights violation you can sue for is also an actual crime - as in handcuffs, jail and criminal court trial - as well. And since the crime is federal, it’s a crime everywhere in the USA.
The US Supreme Court has affirmed the validity of citizen’s arrests, and has ruled that if a citizen’s arrest for a city, county or state level violation of the law is valid, it would also be valid for a crime of the same severity on the federal level.
In most states with laws that allow citizen’s arrests, it’s lawful to use any type or degree of force that police can.
I’m not saying to beat the crap out of a cop while making such an arrest, but if your local cops consider a complimentary choke hold or body slam or pepper spraying or tasing to be just part of the arrest procedure even for people who aren’t resosting, a strong case could be made for doing those things to any cop you arrest. It’s a gray area. But force that is actually mecessary to end resistance or prevent escape isn’t in a gray area at all - even if a bad cop gets killed while resisting arrest.
The ultimate protected class.
Here is the legal part of it. Detention is an arrest, even detention while in handcuffs. Detention is temporary delay, but when you can not leave of your own recognizance, then it is an arrest, and no Miranda rights were ever read at the time of the detention/arrest. It was wise of the ACCUSED to not say anything without a legal representative present at the immediate time of questioning. This should be a giant monetary lawsuit, involving two litigants placed in handcuffs AND arrest mode.
Here is another scenario. The 911 caller on a CUSTODY VIOLATION complaint knows the names of who they are accusing. BUT police, after supervisor shows up, have still no evidence of wrongful doing at the time of arrest so now you pile unlawful arrest because the obstruction charge is brought against specific human beings, BUT the law is not specific and applies only to corporate persons, not private human beings. Major, major lawsuit and can charge clear up to Governor for not protecting rights of human beings of his State/Republic.
Another thing. Police officers are hired to protect CITY ASSETS only . A human being is NOT a "City Asset". A human being is a Sovereign and able to make their own decisions. A Sheriff is an elected official of the County and is the chief law enforcement officer of the county AND no other law enforcement supercedes his elected authority. The Sheriff's primary duty is to protect all human beings rights inside the boundaries of the County, no matter what. The city police stepped out of their box and trespassed on the authority of the Sheriff by stripping those two human beings of their inherent rights. Besides imposing laws by inserting names into the law, which has never been amended by legally elected legislators. This leads to the question of police officers unlawfully stepping into Legislative jurisdiction and becoming unelected legislators and changing the law to defend their unlawful actions. You should have criminal and civil litigation pending against the police, Sheriff, and Governor.
“There’s no need to get smart with police officers…”
That says it all. His attitude is already off to a bad start. Total disregard of respect
what he really meant was "let me violate your rights"
@@mrphenom1643 ''what he really meant was "let me violate your rights and you better enjoy it"....Finished it for you LoL...You're welcome ; 0)
They were not mistaken, they LIED!
This is absolutely nuts! Everyday theyre out their violating peoples rights!
They HATE that the information age has made citizens more aware of their rights!
These cops seem to think their investigation process should be "We will keep escalating this situation until you obey everything we tell you, no matter what or why." They turned nothing into crimes for no reason.
Remember the old cop shows they'd drive around in plain clothes and investigate things? Now they run around with bells and whistles and toys courtesy of the military state and harass people for existing in public.
It’s for the future
Very common cop behavior.
This officer thinks the law allows him to "ask, tell, make" whenever he deems fit, instead of when he's legally allowed to
@@runswithraptors I gotta say, taking old cop shows to heart doesn't support your point very well
I like how Myra pulled him back out of reach when the cop tried to step to him. If she didn't, the cop was about to use the proximity he just created as an excuse to accuse Daniel of stepping to HIM and arrest him for assault. This is a common dirty cop trick to arrest someone for no reason at all.
Seen it happn before dirty play!!
@@_Razor_2.0 yep they do it all the time especially to gain entry
Yup if you're too close its assault and if you back away then you're "fleeing"
They did an amazing job as citizens sad to see how to be safe citizens must know the law better than cops
The thing is, assault is a breach of the peace, and breach of the peace is something you can make a lawful citizen’s arrest for in about 36 out of 50 states, as well as in all purely federal areas of the USA. If you are in one of the areas where it’s lawful, you can preempt the cop’s BS attempt to fabricate an assault by arresting the cop first.
At 00:05:17 is a violation of Florida vs J.L. (2000).
A United States Supreme Court case in which the Court determined that a police officer may not legally stop and frisk someone based solely on an anonymous tip that describes a
person's location and appearance.
Last mild interaction with one of them stating some completely erroneous "law": If I can learn the law, so can you."
I love how the cops keep explaining how they got the call, as if that's this man's problem. They may have an obligation to investigate, but he has no obligation whatsoever to comply with their requests.
Yeah ; it’s like the Bat Signal….!
Cop gets a call : everyone is guilty.
Exactly 💯
They act like you're guilty until proven innocent anytime they get a tip from a caller. You would think they would verify the information the caller gave them before violating someone rights
That’s what they always say is we gotta call. So next time if you’re stopped by them and they say well we need your id because we gotta call. Tell them ok so if I call you and tell you that the gentleman walking through the parking lot over there flew out to Saudi Arabia 20 minutes ago and fucked your sister and came back now does that mean you can just identify him because you got a call?
They're not cops, they're SS soldiers of the American Gestapo.
I’m blown away I’m still seeing officers arrest people for “obstructing” after not getting an ID.
Because there is scenarios where they can. But this wasn't one.
@@NBeaver-bx4yl Most of the time they can't. Don't we all live on the same planet? Don't we all see these oceans of cases where officers unlawfully arrest somebody after they don't get an ID?
Why do I on the other side of the planet know more about state laws in the US than actual US police officers?
Why? There are no consequences for any actions a cop takes, under any circumstances. Why would cops care about the law, even a little bit? It doesn't apply to them. Clearly.
They did that shit to my girlfriend last month
You would think they all would have learned by now in the age of "camera's, you tube videos, and going viral" in that exact order!!