The New F1 Rule To Stop Big Teams Dominating
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- čas přidán 13. 05. 2024
- F1 teams are given a certain amount of tokens to spend on upgrading their car, they can't just simply create a new car from scratch every year. We dive into everything you need to know about Formula 1 development tokens.
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"Sorry, Kimi. We are out of tokens. You will not have the drink."
this is why its a bad idea
Legend lmao
What about gloves and steering wheel?
Don’t forget about the blankets for the tyres
Did he get gloves and steeringwheel?
My life needs some DEVELOPMENT TOKENS.
I hear ya Maurice..And some weight loss shakes no?
@@joshgee8714 💀🤣
hard mood
@@joshgee8714 nah I at least got that goin for me.
Me too but I don't have one. :(
Tokens : introduced
Ferrari in 2024 : we are 784 tokens in debt
Jokes on you I'm 1M tokens in-dept already 😂
If you didn’t notice, He’s not a fanboy, just passionate. x
Totally a fanboy
I read it right when he said it lul
@@GryphLane HES JUST PASSSSIOONNNATTTEEEEEE!!!!!!!!
passionate about tobacco money!
Aren't we all though?😌
The token system is going to make teams more sneaky.
I don't think they will get away with much
They have always been sneaky.
“Sneaky” in Ferrari’s case is just bitching up a storm until it’s removed or limited
@@lj5732 hahahaha thats kinda tru tho
@@lj5732 Really? So that's what they did with their 2018/2019 engine? They bitched up a storm until it ran better than it should have?
Every time I hear something about the “Water Drink System” I think of Kimi.
He wont get it
@@sparkieT88 no steering wheel either
Kimi you will not have the drink we've run out of tokens 🤦🏻♂️🤦🏻♂️😂😂
You mean slow button???
@@westdzero2667 SLOW BUTTON ON
Mercedes spent all three tokens upgrading Bottas’s porridge 🥣
Why you think so? That would really be a waste if you ask me
@@ml8022 It was a statement, not a question. Sources tell me Alonso tried Bottas's porridge upon his return and referred to it as "GP2 porridge". Mercedes responded swiftly to the matter and used one token on the oats, one on the milk, and one on an improved spoon design for better delivery.
@@MostlyAutomotive48 still a waste of tokens, they should've spend them on a new wig for Hamilton
@@ml8022 ok ml
I was going to whoooosh you, but that second one really saved you mate
It's not the first time i've seen a joke completely fly over your head though, careful next time i see you under some comments
Merc will spend 2 tokens on Bottas 3.0 update and 1 token on upgrading Toto’s table to be smash proof
Moving water bottle location: 1 token.
Upgrading rear suspension: FREE.
Great logic.
because the parts where 2019 model thus upgrading the suspension was free. especially sense it's from the same company
For this season these tokens are a great idea, but not for in the future. F1 is also about development, and restricting it with a costcap is enough to get the field closer. Don't interfere more with it please
Yeah it's what makes the sport unique. There are so many different motorsports out there for people who are just interested in close racing. What makes F1 so great is that a significant part of the entertainment happens off the track.
Well, This system can evolve later. Maybe we will have 5 tokens for each team and a money spending limit or smth like that
. Or we might have car changes mid-season, with tokens that can be earned or lost, depending on the performance on track, such as most overtakes, fastest lap, jump-start penalty etc.
I agree. Barring any more global or financial crises, I think just having the cost cap is easier to understand and better for the sport.
I think it's just for this season as they are reusing last year's chassis
@@tacticalginger9623 well, 2 tokens and they can still change it like mclaren did
“The new f1 rule to stop big teams dominating”
Mercedes: so anyway i started dominating
Edit: This Aged Well 😂
Started, more like continued 😂
Mercedes: And I took that personally.
"Oh no! Anyway..."
Haas: Just kill me already.
@@jamesbaxter9123 True lol 😂
Aston Martin acting like TheSpiffingBrit:
The development Token system is perfectly balanced.
That's their new strategist
Lol
Dude, imagine Spiff as a team boss or team strategist. He’d be the FIA’s nightmare! And now I want that to happen 🤣 I can just imagine him requiring the team to drink Yorkshire Tea and forbidding all coffee from the paddock.
@@darkangel1674 he'll also make it madertory to have 1 cup before and after every session. Even through Q1, Q2 and Q3
Creating infinite F1 Development tokens: Formula one is a perfectly balanced sports without exploits
As a introvert, watching him yell out in the middle of a crowd raised my blood pressure by atleast 500%
same here
where?
@@ivanmarconetti4029 here
@@ivanmarconetti4029 4:39
Editors :How many stock images and gif do you want
Tommy : yes
I was just wondering if you could do a video on the entire costs for an f1 team
For example
The people,the parts,the flights Etc
This would be brilliant
Planning something 😂
czcams.com/video/6OLVFa8YRfM/video.html
@@kabirmehta4661 An actually legit URL for once. Thank you.
Yeah! Would be great
Kimi: Hey, hey, give me my steering wheel !!
Team: Sorry Kimi, we're out of tokens !!
Hahaha
4:23 I like the dark red, but I wish it was on the whole car like the anniversary livery. Great video as always!
I think the thing that puts people off is the fade. If it had been either more gradual or just a hard line between the two shades, I don't think it would be so polarizing.
I heard that there was a sponsor that won't allow them to do that
yeah...that dark red clour is really gonna make the car go a lot faster.... :-)
@@stratman9449 Well, red is known to make race cars faster. Maybe they're experimenting to find the optimal shade to shave that extra tenth.
nobody:
WTF1: let's see how many unrelated video clips we can add to this video....
It made me so happy to find out I’m taller than Yuki. Only by an inch, but I’m never taller than other men
Such a milestone in your life😅
focus on making yourself better as you are, you have no time worrying about your height
@@angelalexs true
Happy for you
I like them for this season, where the intention was to limit development and spending opportunities, however I think that for a "regular" season they will limit ingenuity and marginal gains vs a handful of large changes across the season
3:41 My boy Matty Matheson making it into wtf1 😆
Are they a bit like the f1 2020 game tokens thing for get
4:39 got me XD
I was not expecting that lol
Red Bull spent their two token on getting e better 2nd Driver.
Im fine with the tokens but i think the team in last place at the end of the season should get 3 and the winners of the season should get 1 to tighten up the field and make it more competitive
2:06 is that prajakta from Mostly Sane , lmfao 🤣😂
HAHA
It could be interesting if Williams had 11 tokens, Haas - 10, Alfa Romeo - 9... Red Bull - 2 and Mercedes - 1. It really could close the gap between midfield teams and leaders
Great idea except have you heard of “tanking” before?
@@mintofta yeah teams would intentionally do poorer on purpose so that they stack more points to "save" and "improve" the cars
Love the vids mate. Keep up with the good work.
0:19 I actually have that "catty bank" 😂
would love to see an video on WEC's new hyperclass and what's that about. good video btw
I would love to see a fixed areo package for the whole season. Teams would have to consider maximum downforce, balance or top speed. It would certainly mix the field each race. However knowing the way things go in F1, one team would still dominate.
“Why need for these tokens”
So merc doesn’t go sicko mode again
Fia permitting mercedes to consider the front and the rear as a whole and by doing so permitting them to change the whole damn car: hold my beer (?)
I hope the cost cap will be effective enough so we don’t need the tokens for the coming years
2:06 ..... oh wow that’s mostly sane isn’t she !?? 🤣
They need to change it to where it is like this:
Constructor championship order in terms of getting tokens.
#1 gets 1 token,
#2 gets 2, etc etc.
Then make parts more expensive so lower tier teams have larger opportunity to level out with the giants
I think it will definitely make it more competitive, tho I feel there should be some reaching of hey rear gear or extra downforce bits, which could be token extra's you can make choices between which will set up challenging mods that alter to suit driver style and speed in strait or corners, so that teams can still upgrade spec every year on more minor parts, so that we can get back some of the differenchality
I must say. I find the tokens interesting. They could also make a bop with it. Meaning the last teams getting an extra one or something
i like the concept of the development tokens but for what they priced things to change with them 2 doesn't seem enough, 3 seems more reasonable just so if you screwed something up the year prior you could fix it and try something else with the last token or try more areas if one part drastically changes how the rest works
I think they spent their tokens on the front wing, see how this time it is alot of sharper and has more and? But for the other token, Idk where they spent it
Hi Matt. Do you mean swapping the development tokens for the cost cap? Or using both?
Didn't RBR use theirs to change their rear suspension?
No they didn't
@@ml8022 A video on The Race explains the new Redbull rear suspension based on the Mercedes one.
Yeah they did
I'm loving the "each" which has been recorded afterwards and tagged onto the sentences for clarification 😂 Thanks - definitely does make it clearer, annoying as it must have been!
Matt, in terms of Haas for example can they save up their tokens for next season or is it null and void at the end of the season.
That's what I don't get either. As far as I've understood teams weren't allowed to work on the 2022 cars until 1st January again. So what have they done in between? I'm guessing there were some ways to gain performance rather easily with spending those 2 tokens. So, did they just pick their nose after homologation until the start of this year? Or what?
In this particular case I think the tokens were ok, but back in 2015-2016, the engine token system caused a hell of a lot of headache to Honda via Mclaren. Not being able to develop the part while significantly behind will in no way lessen the lead the frontrunners have, and in some cases, may even bolster their crushing dominance.
Take Mercedes and Williams for example, if Merc's car was the best, and Willliams the worst in 2020, allowing each to spend x tokens does not really hurt Merc, but it means that Williams is unable to get anywhere near them...
Personally the new CFD/Windtunnel time allowance is, in my humble opinion, a better way to close the gap on the steam roller effect F1 winning teams have compared to the lesser/non scorers. While I don't like the idea of punishing a team for winning, giving a small advantage to the loser just helps them get closer. The closer the competition is, the more these results should even out, and they can reduce the effect by reducing the penalty/reward.
Hey, I liked the red to burgundy gradient on the Ferrari!
... the green Malboro logo, not so much though.
Limiting the amount of changes teams can make is likely going to be great for the competition aspect of the races. As much as I love seeing the ingenious innovations teams develop for their cars, sometimes they give such a degree of advantage to the driver that the winner of the race ends up being the one whose team spent the most money rather than the team with the most skilled driver.
Im curious, is a development token needed post-race if a car wrecks? Like, let's say you bin it at Monaco and knock off your suspension. So how do repairs get calculated?
Matt's voice sounds better now with new mic and better EQ but the whole video is way too quiet now. :'D Came from Autosport's video and had to put volume to 100%.
the token system long term could also keep slower teams from catching up,, not to mention one chance can often need other chnages to work#
reminds me of pole position/super sprint games from back in the day
In my humble opinion I think the token system is brilliant. Considering there was supposed to be an entirely new car for this season, which teams would have been looking towards, it makes sense to limit the development of 2020 cars as they weren’t supposed to be developed further anyways. The token system, JUST for this season, is necessary to ensure the quality of racing and competition within the sport.
In the future however, I would not want this token system as we would hope not to have any major inconveniences like COVID ever again!
1:58 Nice to see the 2020 Ferrari in the video!
Now I see why they called it Princess Peach, it’s stands for Princess “rear”. 😎
2:25 what does the black wing shape thing near the upper air intake do?
Thanks for the vid I wanted to know and finally there's a good vid about it👍
Hopefully a large channel like WTF1 stands with us F1 fans and makes a video objecting to the scheduled race in Saudi Arabia especially since WTF1 is well known to F1 and its drivers.
I think its actually a really good way to regulate the upgradeable specs on the cars, but it does need some refinement. For example, limiting the number of rollover tokens allowed in a number of consecutive seasons and whether teams will be able to gain tokens from wins.
If the teams can only make two major development changes, how does this bring the pack closer together?
At a glance, to really achieve that you'd need to handicap teams based on where they finished in the previous year, like having a draft in ball sports. For example, Mercedes gets 1 token, Red Bull gets 2, AM gets 3 etc, with Williams getting 10 (or something like that). Maybe to avoid tanking, you put some extra clauses in there, but essentially that has proven to work in other sports. You could also trade tokens to the works team that supplies you for something in exchange, like a higher spec part - with rules around that, too :)
2:20, where can i find this footage of aston martin on white tiles ???
Token system is a good idea but I feel like they could use 1 more or lower the amount of listed parts that need tokens to be upgraded.
I think the tokens are a good thing, but up the limit to 4, with the option to buy 2 more. Catch is, if you buy a token, you *must* select a rival team that will also also get a token. And you cannot select a team that has spent more money that year than yours. Special consideration for the bottom team, who will automatically donate their token to the team directly above them in the books. No single team can have more than 8 tokens, 4 base, 2 bought, and 2 donated.
This will incentivise the big teams to be careful about how much ground they gain year over year, as it means they will be indirectly helping rivals catch up. Meanwhile, the lower teams will be incentivized to buy token and donate to rivals that will help tighten up the back of the pack.
Note: tokens don't mean the teams get money from rivals, just the option to spend more money to try and catch up.
It's so nice to see prajakta koli's gif in this video!!!
She went insane 😂
I want to know, are you allowed to revert to an old spec part after spending all your development tokens?
Did you guys receive a promo code for stock images/videos?
I think we need a token system, but a few more tokens are necessary if this systems stays and you should give additional tokens depending on how bad your last performance was. If the worse team got 2 extra tokens and the second worse gets 1, they have a chance to become more competetive again
Indy car makes every team us the Dallara Chassis and either a Chevy or Honda engine. So it comes down to the driver and how good the setup on the car is. This makes Indy Car very competitive.
Gotta say I really really like them for this year. Could very much see a future in which each team is allowed to spend 3 or 4 Tokens for example (in order to keep them in the game).
Would it be possible to use a sliding scale for the tokens like with the wind tunnel time so the worse the team, the more of their car they can change, surly this would closen up the field without disturbing the financial benefits of finishing higher in the championship
Tokens are fine for this year, but I don't want them in the future. If anything it's gonna make it harder for weaker teams to catch up. Use your tokens unwisely one year and you'll have to use next year's tokens to fix last years problem. Meanwhile the successful teams can keep on developing their car and as long as they don't fuck up, they'll remain one step ahead of all the weaker teams that literally do not have enough tokens to catch up...
No kimi, you do not have the drink! We ran out of tokens!
I think just a simple budget cap would suffice.
The token system stops teams from winning by just throwing cash at things, but it also seems like it somewhat stifles innovation to an unnecessary degree by being overly stringent on what teams can choose to work on.
A budget cap stops teams from just out spending their rivals, but also offers a bit more freedom on what they choose to improve.
I like that it will be more even racing now but still, not enough tokens, or lower the cost to change something
I just found this channel and it is hilarious and informative at the same time. Loving it. (not a fan boy, just passionate)
This is like more of a virtual car racing game approach wherein your total spending for upgrades and maintenance will only depend or be limited on your total earnings from your collected winning points.
Development tokens are a good idea, but need to be more numerous. Say 5 in the season break, 2 between preseason testing and Spain (round 5) no more until mid season break, where they get a further 2, and then no more for the season. However, these tokens can be pooled and used as late as needed
they should add a community awarded token. viewers pick a team to award a token to based on the previous year excluding the top 2-3teams, could change up the midfield a bit and give us a bit more interaction
THANK YOU. I had no idea what a development token was.
They should set a price and then if you go over you can only spend the two tokens
I could have sworn that before the car reveal of the Mclaren people were saying "oh this is going to be the newest car of them all, since they have more liberty rearranging components and stuff due to the fact that they have to implement a new engine and it wouldn't be fair if they had to spend tokens for that."
Apparently this isn't the case but I don't know, the sentiment was they have the most freedom of all teams.
I feel like the token system just stop smaller teams from catching up (like Haas had to choose to "save" the token to have a chance next year)
Perhaps break down the token into smaller pieces (so instead of 1 token for 1 change, you need 20), then give them out in reverse order for every race.
Need to make the token cost more expensive and add more tokens during the season.
Say first 3 and last 6 cars get more tokens? This would be enough to make them push for a win but lets people at the back catch up? Or even first position and last 3 get tokens? then just make upgrades a bit more token expensive.
F1 in a nutshell : you figured a way around our rule? Lets add 20 more then
i saw some analysis saying Aston had a new chassis though?
Giving tokens to the leading teams is hardly going to level out the playing field
survival tokens are fine and all but stuff like asurvival cells which involve the drivers safty shouldnt need tokens
I like the idea of the token system, but I think it might be a bit too restrictive. the FiA should consider increasing the token count so teams can be more and more creative with system revamps.
Token system was very much needed this year, maybe 2 tokens was a little too restricting. But, for regular seasons I wouldn't like to see it. The cost cap does the job of the tokens.
To be honest, the token system is just like the budget cap, it allows low field teams to be competitive as the mid/top field teams, overall balancing battles and keeping racing interesting.
Can we give Williams and alfa have one of haas’s tokens each, it only seems fair if they aren’t gonna use them one of the other backmarkers should get to use them, bump themselves up the order a bit at haas’s expense
1:45 me and the boyz partying in 2021
It would then make sense to use the team ranking each year to allocate the tokens for next year, which means that the lower you are on the ranking, the more tokens you will get to develop your car. So Mercedes would get 1 token, Red Bull 2, McLaren 3 and so on to 10 tokens for WIlliams.
2:05 MOSTLYSANE😂
I quite like it, but my main concern with having a token system all the time, is it could stop smaller teams from catching up to the bigger budget teams. Unless they do something like they do with the wind tunnel time, and whoever was last last season gets the most tokens.
They should introduce a system where the team that finished last last season gets the most tokens, the second to last team a bit less the third to last a bit less until you get to the number one that only has a few tokens
I’m still a little confused by the token system. My understanding is that most teams have changed their aero packages (which can be seen mostly in the front wing and obviously the side/floor). Do changes such as these not constitute using a token? Thanks in advance
A lot of those changes are due the changes in regulations, which means they HAVE to change those parts. Tokens are only spent on locations that werent affected by new regulations
This will gonna set back the technological advancement in developing ideas towards a better car design
Maybe there should be a market in tokens where better funded teams can buy tokens from other teams and then be obliged to share the innovation with the team whom they bought the token off at the end of the season
I think the knock on effect could be that it's harder to get a job in F1 because teams won't have the budget cap to expand the team. So the only way in is if someone leaves
The token system wouldn't be bad IMO if it were just for big things on the car. Like the front and rear suspension, The engine, Aero, and electronics packages. But a token for the drink system or fire suppressor? really?
Or better yet the amount of tokens a team gets was dependent on where the team finished in the constructors championship. For example Merc would get 1 token, while HAAS or Williams would get more.
There already was a token system in f1. But teams developed anything they wanted anyway, thus not keeping costs down and only brought the things they thought were best to the grid
Mercedes is the most secret team on the grid. You never know what will happen.
The entire Mercedes team: hold my beer
The only thing we know, is that they'll dominate....again....
@@mattevans4377 Well, right NOW we don't KNOW that.
It's probably true (like they looked mediocre while testing and dominant as soon as the season started for the past couple of years) but we can't know for sure. There is no doubt the new regulations hit them harder than other teams like Ferrari or RedBull. Then again I would not be surprised in the slightest if there is a "miraculous" power jump in Q3 next saturday and they get P1/P2 as always.
On a side note: At least the other teams seem to be really close this season with very talented and capable drivers in every team. We could see some really good and interesting racing for P4 - P12
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