'Rise of the Robo-Tank' as chilling new war machines evolve to blitz killer drones
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- 'Rise of the Robo-Tank' as chilling new war machines evolve to blitz killer drones.
Sir Richard Barrons spoke to The Sun's Defence Editor Jerome Starkey on The Sun's brand new show 'World at War' to discuss the biggest innovations and challenges facing tanks since the emergence of drones.
- Contents of video -
00:00 - 00:19 - World at War introduction
00:19 - 02:14 - Are tanks dead?
02:14 - 03:41 - Ukraine’s fight with old tanks
03:41 - 04:46 - Britain’s new Challenger 3 tanks
04:46 - 05:22 - Drones blitz Russian tanks on frontlines
05:22 - 06:03 - Israeli tanks in Gaza
06:03 - 06:48 - Britain’s depleted forces
06:48 - 08:55 - Rise of the ‘Robo-Tank’
08:55 - 09:20 - Final comments
ENDS
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Friends, there is no such thing as a safe tank because the tank is a very large target, no matter how much armor it has, there will always be an IED or a Land Mine strong enough to destroy it and render it unusable.
Other than that, the tank is a priority target as soon as it appears on the battlefield, so it would be better to make it remotely guided as this would guarantee the crew a higher level of survival than the armored vehicle itself.
There is no point in simply training a better crew because they are inside something that is a target, it is better to guide them from a distance and not lose the crew.
I'm not sure I buy the idea of the Ukrainian Challenger 2 crews being inexperienced. They are fighting a war that Britain hasn't for a very long time. They know the terrain, and we're probably Vetrans when they became Challenger 2 crews.
Its not that they don't no how to fight cuz they do but its not being used to the English language and our style of equipment with computes
It's a little of Both tbh...
The Crews AREN'T Genuinely Time Served YET... and Equipment Evolves too!.. These are older Tanks now though.
yup to heavy and under powered for the terrain
The problem is Challenger 2, and the problem is that it is visible even from Poland 😅
They need to call in a swarm.
People have been predicting the death of the tank, since the invention of the tank. Giving Ukraine 31 Abrams and expecting them to fight them in absence of everything else is madness. If the US was fighting these tanks, they would have bombed artillery and drone depots, they would have serious airborne jamming, they would be accompanied with A-10's and Apaches and predator drones, B52's would have carpet bombed the enemy infantry, you get the picture, I mean it would be a very different scenario to just giving people 31 tanks on their own.
To me it seems platforms like the Bradley IFV/APC are out performing other vehicles in Ukraine. They offer the armour talked about here, with a formidable anti infantry / light vehicle weapon. In Ukraine a single person armed with a Javelin or even 50 year old RPG poses a threat to an MBT, meaning their roles are best served behind the front line. Meanwhile, it seems smaller, faster vehicles like the Bradley are more useful, due to their versatility and ability to suppress those threats posed by well armed infantry. Something they fight far more often than a tank.
I suspect they'll be capable of transporting and deploying a variety of smaller tanks, too, with different roles assigned, such as a small missile launcher tank, a machine gunner tank, and a very long range sniper tank that doesn't have to focus on breathing whilst aiming, just weather sensors and other very sensitive instruments. If they're not too heavy, perhaps drones could even reposition them.
The future or war is autonomous vehicles. How it will work is there will be an army of small autonomous vehicles in the land, air and sea which will just operate as sensors, not just detecting enemy activity but detecting weather conditions, ground vibrations and such, these vehicles will be tiny and hard to detect even with EW technology due to their size. The sensors will relay all that data back to a command unit miles away from the battlefield which will then be processed by AI to determine the exact angle, pitch etc that a tank, artillery unit, ship or jet etc needs to fire at to eliminate enemy forces with pinpoint precision. This process will happen so quickly that future wars will look like hyperlapse video.
Another thing to look out for is hunter drones, I'm not talking about strapping a grenade to a DJI and sending it on its way. I'm talking about extremely high-speed drones that can change speed & direction so quickly that you wont even see it coming, almost like a bullet that changes direction. As drones get smaller and more manoeuvrable, these things could potentially fly into a building, navigate its way around and eliminate a single threat or squadron depending on what the drones mission was, all within a timeframe measured in seconds from the moment it enters the building.
I have no doubt that these weapons either already exist or are currently in development.
Whoever owns the sky is going to have the advantage on the battlefield and battle ground
What if nobody own the sky?
Dude UKRAINE has only lost 7 M1 Abrams Tanks Compared to how many RUSSIAN TANKS HAS LOST 7200. The M1 ABRAMS is still a far better SUPERIOR TANK compared to any Russian tank.
Russia also lost zero T-14! T-14 is the best tank with cloak abilities. NO LOSES!
It outburns the Russian tanks, producing more BTUs in it's combustion.
@@ataksnajpera Russian Military to chicken 🐔 to put t-14 armada tank in Ukraine because it would fall apart 😂
Dude, M1 ABRAMS pulled out of battlefield as soon as arrived while T72 still fighting! Usually winners staying and losers leave the ring :D jokes to side and back to reality,. Ukraine lost less tanks not because they are better, but because they simp!y don't have them!
@@stop116 ok Russian TROLL BOT 🤖 You and Putin are CRYING 😭 because M1 ABRAMS TANK is MIGHTIER THAN ANYTHING THE RUSSIANS CAN BUILD 😂
A robotank sounds like a ground-covering drone. Apart from the expense, it would save men being blown up by mines, shells, etc. It makes sense.
Drones are flying vehicles; autonomous or RC ground vehicles were always called robots, bots or droids since decades.
Erm,does anyone think tanks weren’t destroyed in large numbers in WW2..? Or any War they’ve been used in since..🤷♂️
MORE drones… 😢😢😢
Surely smaller unmanned vehicles will be the future, land drones or the aerial drones will morph into large carriers of smaller drones
funny, he sounds like he trying to support the challenger short comings, mud is older than the tank and still in its original form. no modification required and it works to stop a tank...
its about better pathfinding and better navigation.
we need e bikes with uzis like chiuck norris
When the last time Brits been in the tank? NATO doesn't know themselves what is ground war... Ukrainians use old tanks and they don't know how to use new advanced tanks? How's that working out? I might be wrong, but more advanced should be more easier to operate
More advance means more technical so harder to learn.
@@1234crevis more automated you mean.. Modern equipment relies on computers and sensors... It is more difficult to learn how to fix, not how to use on the battlefield.. How long did it take you to learn how to use cruise control in your car? And which cars are easier to drive, cars with manual or automatic gearbox?
@@stop116 yeah but how long does it take you to master your computer settings on your touch screen radio or touch screen Dash
little britain Good at Chasing Goat Herders in a Desert on a Hot Day.
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Dude, you are the gold standard of reporting.
Huh. I don't even report on anything. TF you on about?
Its over
We need to not have experts constantly weighing in ,its good for media entertainment sells a story, but truth is no western country has fought a war like Russias invasion since WW2. Ukraine has been stuck fighting Russia since 2014 in one way or another. The west refuses to fight Russia so I don’t think it’s our area of expertise, we need to listen to Ukraine give them what they need help train soldiers but also gain knowledge from Ukraines experience. If we can stop being political give Ukraine the air power experience and the planes , help with electronics warfare , supply weapons and deliver to Ukraine the supply’s in full quickly, work with there soldiers gain experiences from them instead acting like we know how fight Russia. Then together our countries will get stronger and Russia will loose. USA might be the largest military in world, Nato is a strong alliance but means nothing when comes to Russia, when it comes to Russia it’s a war we avoid at all costs.
Some people look at tanks like its ww2 times are different like he said, eyes in the sky makes a huge difference. Can't hide them anymore.
If your country is not at war, and your soldiers are not fighting at the front, then your engineers can create a technically excellent machine. But it is unlikely that they will be able to construct something that will surpass the weapons of the enemy, who has tremendous combat experience. It will be expensive, beautiful, useless..
I thought the original purpose of tanks in WW1 was to be a kind of mobile shield to help troops in a frontal assault. If tanks are going to get smaller, lighter and lower, won’t they be missing the point of what a tank is supposed to do?
All the turrets remained fixed to the hulls of every western tank that was disabled. Those crews can hop in to another tank and get back to work wiser than before
IM SO CHILLED, SOMEONE TURN THE HEATING ON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who does not love an armoured, mobile, big gun?
I don't know about drones but anti tank missiles such as the Russian Kornet that do real damage.
The combined arms war the US fights is a very different thing compared to vulnerable lone tanks with no infantry or air support in that respect Russian US German British tanks any tank is vulnerable to the new drones. Should we judge any tank that harshly when used in a way that makes it very vulnerable
Exactly, not how a tank is soposed to be used.
I am a bit curious how difficult it would be to convert existing tanks into drones. Apperantly drone tanks existed already during WW2 so it shouldn't be out of reach. For someone that . Let's says have scores of T-72's in stock, tanks that already got autoloader it just may be av thing if the conversion kit is cheap enough.
Exactly how many Challenger 3's are we buying? It's worse than I thought 148!
Like the DJ, it doesn't come out often, but when it does there is notning to replace it.
Tank warfare is ending - drone warfare is starting. Drone technology will rapidly advance. Pre-programmed frequency hopping to combat jamming. Built in target aquisition and navigation to incorporate jinxing in flight to make it harder to hit. Automatically seek and lock in to another target if the primary target is lost. Massed drone strikes to combat air defences. Drone warfare has started in Ukraine and the rest of the world is watching and learning. One in ten successful strikes by $300 drones to take out $3 million tank is still good economics.
I think battles in the future will be at long range. Missiles, drones, etc. Tanks will become a thing of the past
They need the crews thats had years of training in them .. and Ukraine is using them different then we would ..
What happens when an autonomous tank is hacked by the enemy?
regarding getting stuck, i dont know. if thats avarage to others or not. but regardless if Abrams, challenge, t80. operation without direct support from infantry, and with no protection from drones they can all be destroyed. Nothing is able to withstand direct hits from pressision guided artilliry or modern hand held AT systems, or drones
these drones are using cheap standard anti tank munitions, these already exist. the game changer is how those munitions are being used, that's it. but the way they are now being used doesn't allow the tank to use its strengths to take the attack, and carry on, instead the use of a drone allows the attacker to hit the weakest parts of a tank, whereas normally they are faced with the strongest parts of the tank. even the most modern tank is designed to be strongest from the front and weakest in the rear, because you can't have the same protection all around a tank due to weight of the armour.
Just funny how the retired general skirted around the fact that the Challenger the Ukrainians got has a weak engine. But no matter how big your engine is. Mud and soft terrain doesn't care. I was a Bradley mechanic for 15 yrs. Recovered and self recovered MANY tracks and tanks from muddy areas. And at the end of the day it doesn't matter how powerful your tank is. It's how smart your crew is to avoid it all together. Or find ways to navigate it.
The evolution of swarms of AI controlled, low cost drones will develop faster than tanks and any of their potential counter measures. Most drones in Ukraine are based on DJI drones built for hobbyists ie. toys. Purpose built military drones with frequency hopping encrypted control, EMP shielding, and other counter measures will be MUCH harder to stop.
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Maybe it is better to keep the crew outside the tank. It’s just too dangerous to be inside.
The thing is with AI, better automation and better information systems too the commander do you really need 4 crew? That is the killer in terms of weight, power and mobility.
2 team tanks max (commander/driver and gunner) are the future with much of the tasks currently carried out being automated and in AI. This massively reduces the crew compartment opening up a lot of opportunties to both up armor and include autonomous anti-drone systems.
They aren’t fully to spec
It's nuts when we think of these as "older" Tanks when Russia is Fielding museum pieces!😂
They certainly burn well.
@@leonardbakers I really wasn't expecting that...but ... they're better than nothing... unfortunately.
@@mrmagoo.3678 And shovels. Actually in any war old machines are used by all combat sides. We did it.
Might have pyramid shaped tanks from now on.
To say the Challenger isn't underpowered is a massive lie. It has the same acceleration as a tank from WW2 and weighs almost 20-30 tons more than a Russian tank. They also have the lowest top speed out of any MBT. The Challenger is now the worst tank other than it's armor.
Why don't you post a subtitle with a translation because those of us who don't learn English could watch it??? That way you would do us a favor and you would get more views and even more followers of your CZcams channel
A Google tank 😅 that would actually be a PR nightmare for them.
I'm not sure the interviewer knows the difference between tanks and armored personal carriers. The video editor sure didn't
even if they get counter measures for drones, they still have missiles that an infantryman can carry, fire and kill a tank. APCs are being destroyed 40 a day in ukraine. whats the point of designing a new tank that will cost billions. just design a small quad like unit that has a couple of missiles on top. They could probably field 1000 of them for the price of one tank, so they will kill 1000x more enemy, use 1000 x more ammo to die, and no human has to die... surely that's a no brainer.
getting stuck in the mud has nothing to do old technologie they are simply to heavy for the terrain
Nailed it. Nietzsche said that what Schopenhauer wrote in a single book he can do in one sentence.
Yes our tanks have underpowered engines.. I know and I’ve watched the European tanks out perform the U.K. tanks almost running rings around us
Have you tried "rat shot 50 bmg" ?
You can keep the hatches closed on an Abrams, cause air conditioning!
Tanks are going the way of heavy cavalry .
There too big too lumbering easily spotted easily hit.
Long range ordnance is the killer
Dinosaur General out da gate doubles down on what we ALL know: old style warfare with Tanks is history
Drones with laser guns. Watch this space!
A tank is not an armored vehicle, nor is it a mobile artillery.
A tank is an armored fighting vehicle.
The best tank in the world will still get stuck in the mud. Inexperienced? Who would know what the mud is like in Ukraine better than the Ukrainians? Send UK tankers to Ukraine and they'll end up getting just as stuck.
Tanks driving by Google. See you next week
Dude just dodges all questions
That initial statement is false about Abrams being pulled.
That was an official statement from the AFU, as far as I know. It was regaled verbatim, I believe.
The Abrams are being pulled out of frontline operations because of one reason huh... It is seriously doubtful that it's only because of "cheap Russian Drones", the frontline is not indicative of the overall success or failures of Ukraine's efforts, it is a multidimensional array of different elements working together to create the most effective means of dealing with the Russian offensive. The Abrams are not guaranteed to be replaced and retrieving damaged Abrams from conflict zones is extremely hazardous, it would be extremely reckless of the Ukrainian General Staff to waste their most effective weapons systems while the US is twisting the reneging knife they thrust into Ukraine's back during the last six months.
No sorry they are not being pulled off the front lines. They have adopted hit and run tactics - this is very different. Also the conflict in Ukraine would be different from a NATO vs Russia war where air power would have much more of a role and Weather tanks would be properly supported, have upgraded armour and have APS. APS alone would counter mush of Russia's weapons. You can not use Ukraine to extrapolate
future wars as the example is too niche. No the tank is not dead - in fact both sides want more. The tank will evolve yet again to counter new threats.
Englands forces have been completely hollowed out. It’s a national disgrace and embarrassment.
Query whether the expert got his facts wrong because he doesn't know commercial AI and it's history. Canada's Aeryon drones were the bane of Ghadaffi and applied AI image recognition years ago. AI image recognition was practical around 2012 if I recall. Secondly, applying straight economics, you may buy 100,000 smart drones for the cost one tank and there's no ffn way a tank can stop 100,000 drones. Can't you find someone like Luckey Palmer or Bayraktar instead to interview? Ukraine apparently gets more bang for their bucks with drones. Maybe talk to them?
What happened to trophy systems?
Yes,the video showed what seemed to be a Trophy system defeating an RPG. The Israelis have them on all their armored vehicles,and I was wondering if they would show up in Ukraine,where they would be very useful for drone defense. Trophy is advertised as offering 180 degree protection.
Question : Why does Ukraine only attack into Russian soil piecemeal with their native drones? Putting aside the recent UK and US green lighting the use of gifted long range systems, I don't understand why Ukraine sends only a handful of drones at at time - why not send 500 or 5000 at once to overwhelm Russia?
I imagine it's simply supply. The Russians also stop a lot of them with both firepower and jamming.
Ridiculous question...NO! NO THEY'RE NOT!...War, Tactics and Equipment Evolves.
The Israeli Merkava tank and the US Bradley. Tanks which are also troop carriers, that can protect troops in hostile environments and also have an offensive capability are the future.
Armata does not exist, only in prototype and it got no armor so yea, do not compare real with fictional tanks
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Time for the F16 to come to Ukraine within weeks and the Westen parties should get their fingers out their a--s and give the Ukraines what they need and stop Jerking about
Where's F-16 going to Operate from and Logistical Support..? 😉🇷🇺👍
@@richardsanders4624 Sun reader. He doesn't think. Emotional people generally don't. They let Murdoch do it for them.
No.
Russia has been losing their T-90’s hand over fist!!!
It can't be that far in the future. The US has just flown AI F-16s.
Combine AI driven machines with systems found within say the apache helicopter, where the radar dome up top can differentiate between friend or foe of up to 130odd units. Game over....
Then, skynet will take over 😏😅
It doesn't matter if the tanks new or old really. Not when they are so FCKn heavy. They will dink and get stuck always. They won't even be useless. However a much lighter tank with larger tracks that's faster would way better. Look at the Bradley's.. They ar much more effective just for this reason.
What? 😂Effective as a group grave
@@TheDrAstrovthe protection for crews in Bradly IFVs is far superior to all of the comrade cookers being fielded currently.
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If day were smart day would put emp or radar jamming devices on the battles tank's to disrupt drone strikes by disabling them n the air
If you were smart you would know it wasn't that easy.
Cannon fodder aren't meant to know that.
Hell no the Ukraines don’t know how to use them.
I suspect that the pentagon is working very hard at drone countermeasures right now. Weapons development has always been action and re-action. The era of drone supremacy will not last forever.
Drones are here to stay.
I you own the sky, you will win the battle. Look at desert storm. The only reason for tanks in the future is if you already won and it is a tool to control the area.
If that is true, explain vietnam...
tanks are like calvary in ww1 ,,,,,,, this guy is dellusional
Small amounts of tanks ON THEIR OWN are useless
Rise of the robo tank will be brought down by electronic warfare..
Pointless.
Any tank is a cooker for human meat. There has to be a better way.
NO !! THE COLD WAR HAS NEVER ENDED..
Hamas and Russia is very different. What a shameful comparison. They can't admit that they cannot win a fair war.
So will ROBO TANK be driven by ROBOCOP ??
Robotic tanks and artillery can be hacked and jammed.
Good luck doing that with a human crew!
That alone will make the robotic vehicles redundant.
This is also why Ukraine stopped using their small robotic vehicles to deliver mines!
This happens whenever you encounter a technology leap. Tanks in WW1, Code breaks of WW2, Drone Wars of Ukraine & Armenia. Philippines should learn from Ukraine when China starts pushing in their floating militias. Prepare a lot of anti-ship drones and floating drones to extend operating ranges - cheaply (appearing as sea weed, junk, etc.).
Russia has adapted and its become a more fierce conflict over which government owns the property & mineral rights in Ukraine. Only imbeciles believe Russia has the capacity to take on the EU. Russians believe in the war in Ukraine, as we in the West never saw all the Ukrainian militias firing into villages & towns post-2014 as they did. No such propaganda as to why Estonia-Lithuania to poland and UK did the same as the pro-UA militias did to innocent civilians over 10 years that caused this conflict.
How did Russia adapt? They included their own FPV drone units now. They actually got their act together with artillery supporting troops on the ground now. Most important is their battlefield use of electronic warfare suppression of drones & himaars.
And no I am not pro-Putin or pro-Russian. I have many friends in Ukraine. I am speaking up for them, because if they did? They'd be arrested and jailed. That is the rule of law across Ukraine.
Ukraine.drone.is.the.distroyer.for.Russian.tanks.
"world at war"
Tanks work good, but only when you have air support!! That's what Ukraine doesn't have....yet. And good support and help from the West (Europe and US)!! Looks like Putin has better partners in Iran, North Korea, CHINA!!
شالنجر لبريطانيه دبابه العار الفاشله 😂
In war humans evolve, when apeman started clubbing other human was born
The Gen. Is just too incompetent... But I'm too lazy to type
Ukraine needs Toyota's land cruiser, Hilux..... The same ISIS and Taliban using 😂😂😂 Toyota's cheap and relatable...
Challenger tank is one of the crapiest western tank that the Ukranians got, the crew complains all the time abut how unreliable it is, maybe cuz its too old and was no maintained correctly or there are no parts available anymore.
Mmmm.......thanks for the General Guderian.
The terrain in Ukraine stays mainly on the plain.
Showing russian tanks burning while the intro is about American tanks...
Tanks may be vulnerable, but how the Ukrainians are using them & when is ridiculous?! The Ukraine military does not now nor did it ever have a true plan & strategy to neutralize the Russians. Their army, (sans the AZOV units), are simply not trained!
No it isn't. That story was redacted. You are lying on purpose
What an appalling interview. Neither of you mentioned the systemic procurement issues within the British forces or how we now have the smallest standing Army in several centuries or that if the Falklands happened again we wouldn’t be able to do what we did in the eighties. We can’t even build our aircraft carriers properly. Not forgetting how the Royal airforce is again too small to be of any real effect. Jerome just a yes man and rather wet.
Imagine if Russia had millions of soldiers at the Ukranian Frontline like America did in every war they fought who still failed to win them lol. The 3-day Russian military operation that every NAFO bot keeps mentioning would definitely be a reality.
cope harder orc simp
even if you use a not the most reliable source, Wikipedia, you can understand that Russia has increased its army by 400 thousand (precisely the active one).
In total, about 500 thousand should fight in Ukraine (in the beginning there were 150-190 thousand, another 300 thousand were mobilized). But let's say, according to the worst estimates, 100 thousand died, which, given the caution of the attack and the tactics used, is unlikely, most likely a little less.
At the same time, Ukraine, despite the mobilization of 900 thousand (by the way, another 500 were recently announced, the total should be 1.4 million) manages to retreat. Western commanders think that they will win with numbers, forgetting that this “number” has nothing to fight with.
I know that bots will try to answer my comment, before that I will remind them that not a single authoritative source (even the Ukrainian Armed Forces) has stated that Russia has more than 500 thousand in Ukraine. This is said mainly by various kinds of unreliable persons who can be bribed or intimidated, or by those who benefit from it.
Russia has always thrown huge numbers of disposable men in any war. If they had proper tactics and strategy they could have effectively used all the men and materiel that sat in the forest at the beginning of their "special military operation", ie, war.
@@1Fear3 no one knows how many troops are fighting on both sides, but I know for sure, Russia has only small portion of troops fighting i n Ukraine... And it's worth to remember, battalions from "occupied" territories are fighting alongside Russian forces.. Why NATO failed in Afghanistan? Simply because local people didn't want to be controlled by West... Same as Soviets failed in Afghanistan..? Eastern Ukraine is completely different story and media will never tell that to people
russia suffered half a million casualties and has another half a million in Ukraine that are soon to be casualties, so that's your million russian soldiers right there @milan6884