Mac vs Windows 2024 - Can I Change Your Mind? [Best Laptop]
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- Apple Mac vs Windows 11 - Who makes the best Laptop in 2024? (can I change your mind?)
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00:00 MacBook Air vs ZenBook 14
00:45 Best Value
02:30 Best Design
05:55 Apple Silicon
08:15 AI
09:40 Apps Apps Apps
11:34 Ecosystem
12:57 Wrap Up - Věda a technologie
You might want a MacBook, but you need a Windows laptop.
True 😂
nah MacBook + windows desktop
True
Truee
I want a PC but need a mac. I'm just going to hackintosh
Tried to switch last year with MacBook M1. Normally both my wife and me use Dell XPS 15 for work and 13 when traveling. Macbook ended up being used 3x in one full year. Ended up selling Macbook. Point is, switching is hard, stick with what you have used to and with what you will enjoy more.
I've been a Mac user since 2007 and was forced to switch to Windows for work. They are both good OS's and Windows 11 has a surprising amount of attention to detail, but it seems that the Mac is just that little bit more refined somehow.
I just switched after trying to use a G14 and I am so much happier. Light with long battery life. Better advice is to know what you need and see if the alternatives will provide better value.
Tried macos for the first time last year and it has been good with working with my iPhone. Unfortunately, thats the only upside for me. I like windows more for laptops and ios more for my phone.
Not the best advice I’d say. It is better to know what you need and test things out. Might just be able to improve your workflow. Life is about taking risks and learning from them
@@kjeldkaj I have spent 1.3k to test, so I think its easier to say than do it. And when you move from Windows to MacOS, it is all about time to get things done. Mac is great, no question about it, just was slowing me down for many random things... One of the reasons I wanted to try it was also because of iphone (photos from phone to Mac etc), as I have it as my 2nd phone (android is of course main driver). In about same time I got Synology NAS... All in all, for me did not worked out.
I really cant wait till the snapdragon Elite X to see hwo Windows can compete then (especially with battery life). My only issue with most CZcams reviews is that they focus on photo and video editing workflows rather than data workflows which is generally where Windows wins out.
True. Most people don't do video editing everyday on a sofa. Most people use a browser and productivity apps. It looks like youtubers must have a "normal" job in a real company if they want to make videos that makes sense 😊
Thank you. I’m in the same bucket. As I’m a data person first I can do all my editing on an iPad but need a computer for data and so lately after 14 years on a Mac I picked up a surface pro 9 and other than battery life I’m cool with it.
iPad fulfils my Mac need which really is browsing, photo edits and watching videos.
I hate when every single youtuber in the world goes on about video editing all the time yet only 2% of their viewers care about it at all.
@@derekhatake that’s right. You either edit video or play games all day.
All these video editors, you’d think there would be amazing content out there (obviously this channel is great, but just saying).
Think I’ll avoid that career. Clearly saturated already! Perhaps you can film your family vids in 4K edits.
lol@@RemofRenaissance
Compliments for the video Tom, you did an excellent job! Could you tell me, where can I find those fantastic wallpapers? (specially the Zenbook's one)
It would be nice if you'd put visual points or something to show which one is better in specific categories.
The zenbook 14 oled literally outperforms the macbook air m3 in 90% of categories. Apple tech is good but the price is bloated due to branding and reputation. If you want raw performance and the best bang for your buck, go for the windows machine without thinking about it twice.
I have an Alienware desktop PC and a Dell G15 gaming laptop, which go perfectly well with my Galaxy phone. I use Office apps a lot both for my personal and professional life, along with OneDrive to save and share files and a bunch of other programs; I love the amount of programs / apps there are available for Windows. As Tom says, I use my gear to work by day and game by night.
Microsoft Office runs well on macOS, some say better, but I use it so rarely in Windows these days I wound't know. What I do find rubbish is Outlook in Windows. It's often 20 minutes later picking up my emails than Apple's Mail app. It's probably some configuration detail, but I didn't need to configure Apple's Mail app to deliver my emails promptly. Also, OneDrive, which is really useful, works perfectly on macOS. In fact I have it syncing across all my macOS devices, plus my PC laptop and both my Windows 11 VMs running on my MacBook Pro and my Mac mini. I used to enjoy gaming when I was younger, and still have an Alienware computer in storage somewhere, but it was a pain in the arse to configure it, and now I have no interest in gaming of that type - maybe Sudoku or Kukuro, but nothing that needs nVidia GPUs or processor cooling.
Hey Tom! Big fan! I was actually wondering if you'd be interested in reviewing the Asus ZenBook PRO 14 OLED. I know it's an "older" model but I'd love your take on it vs a MacBook for a creator looking for the best portability. I'd really appreciate your thoughts! Thank you and keep up the awesome work!
Solid Video ,I Use Arch BTW ,use old ThinkPads and they Brilliant
I am using Macbook pro 14 with m1 pro, and also an Hp Omen with rtx 2070 as a windows laptop. I think windows is a little bit user friendly, start menu and screen using without a menu bar on top is a better experience. MS Office is better in Windows. Also as a software business user, I have to user some apps dont like using arm based chips such as MSSQL.
And there is some screen hz issue that i can not describe. MacOS is not native 144, I think you have to develop your app using high refresh rates. You can test using Edge and Safari while making full screen. You can see the difference while they are getting bigger or smaller. I see the same issue in my LG 144 hz 34 inch display, so it is not about monitor, it is about OS.
And also you can not see the copying speed while you copy files :) each time i have a little smile when i see that :)
I used to be an Apple die hard, even worked for them for 6 years. The reason I don't use them anymore is because of their 'warm, comfy, cozy Prison." Love that you said Prison! There is some truth to that.
I'm too much of a tech enthusiast to be limited with what devices I get and don't want to lose out on features just because I thought a phone with a fingerprint scanner is a better use case for me.
Apple has a tendency to decide what is best for it's users, and any amount of customizability you want to do either costs you more money, or features on the product you own. I started to get tired of that trade off, so embraced Android/Windows because they do play nice together. At least as nicely as they can given the huge variety of both.
Currently Using-: Work - Dell Lattitude 7970 i7 1260P 32GB Memory
Personal -Acer Swift X (Ryzen 5800U/ Nvidia 3050ti), Custom Built Desktop PC (Ryzen 5900X, Radeon 7900XT), S23 Ultra, Tab S9, Galaxy Watch 6.
woah sir, I saw that you are using acer swift x for your personal work, I am a uni student wanting to buy a personal laptop, how is the swift x ? Its battery on a single charge and is it fast enough ?
What about its thermals ?
Please answer, I want to know as much as I can about it !!
I use what works best for me, makes me more productive, has less hassle, and has the best support. Since I moved there, the Mac has easily been my choice as I have been in the Apple ecosystem for 15+ years. I am well past the days of tinkering, aesthetics, and choice. I do not see the laptop as an extension of me, only something that gets stuff done.
Windows obviously has a massive advantage in choice, as multiple OEMs give various takes. That is a naughty negative connotation as Apple is only a tiny player in the total PC market, around 9% share. The natural monopoly Windows has is a glorious advantage and almost impenetrable as people will generally stay with what they know.
Except all companies are like that. Example: windows obsession with the Edge-browser and soon also the Copilot that will be forced onto every windows user
@susiolu The Swift X has been great for me. The price to performance is very good. There are some things I wish it did better, like had a 16:10 screen, a bit better build quality, upgradeable RAM, and better back-lit keyboard (seriously, a white backlight on silver keys is pretty useless unless you're in absolute darkness.)
When I bought it though it was just under $1000 USD, and for the specs it has and price its a great all rounder. I came game on it with decent results, and do my work as a software developer with little issue. Having more than 16GB of ram would be nice sometimes, but it wasn't that much of a deal breaker to stop me from getting it. Maybe the newer models have more ram. I'm pretty sure the newer ones are 16:10 displays at least.
edge is actually the best browser for windows and co-pilot is a great tool, it should be promoted@@kjeldkaj
I recently tried switching from a Macbook Air M1 to a Dell XPS 15 9510. The XPS had a wonderful display, great build quality and a very large and comfy trackpad. I was fully expecting a bump in performance, but to my surprise, for the tasks I do for a living it didn't offer more performance and had horrible battery life in comparison (tasks like graphic design, simple motion graphics etc.) I would often be slightly bothered by the fan noise of the XPS where the MBA is basically silent. Another issue for me is that the experience of using a trackpad in Adobe Illustrator and InDesign is far better on Mac than on Windows, which is sad because its honestly just a software issue, an issue I didn't experience in other apps. I really wanted to keep the XPS but it didn't make sense for my needs. I think its always just a matter of finding the tool that you like the best.
Great video!
Which MacBook do you recommend for 4K video editing?
M1 Pro MacBook pro and above.
With intel unison, my iphone can finally “airdrop” into my downloads folder!
- from iphone app: stable, but max 100 photos at a time
- from windows app: needs couple minutes to sync up large album changes, but can pull hundreds of photos directly from iphone. Also has albums view, sort & delete ur iphone photos on your windows laptop!
Not enough people are talking about this fantastic windows / iphone marriage, so I am.
I'm using both windows and mac so i think I can offer my two cents. I use both unison and phone link. Sometimes notifications duplicates lol. But the reason I use both is that sometimes one doesn't stay connect... But when it does work, it works almost as well, if not better than in the apple ecosystem. I can make a phone call from my pc, for example. I can still text on my pc. I can even check iPhone notifications from my pc. Windows has come a long way. @@smilorent
Old school Windows user, but macbook pro for last 10 yrs, switching back to Windows for the Asus Zenbook Duo. Innovative form factor ftw.
I have a Macbook pro 16" for work, and wanted a light travel/on the go laptop. I bought the Zenbook 14, and am happy with the choice. The only real issue with it is that it doesn't have "Instant on" like Mac, so when I haven't used it in a few hours, it takes about 20s to turn on. But battery life good (about 7 hours), display very good, got my 16GB ram that I need for software dev. Trackpad and sound good. Nice and light. It is actually a nicer consumption device than my iPad, especially in bed. If I was going to buy a Macbook Air/Pro, I would keep looking to move up the pricing ladder to get the spec I actually wanted, and would end up spending about 3 times as much. Go Asus.
What about the heat? MacBooks run cool most of the time and even when they get into the 90s the body of the laptop does not get hot, only very mildly warm. My biggest concern with the ASUS Zenbook is how quickly it gets warm, one reviewer said it got quite warm just using Word to type a document. I was interested in getting one as its performance was good and battery life improved but not the heat!
@@markmoriarty7760 I got a i5 equivalent from AMD, to get better battery life. It stays cool enough for me. Sits on my lap no issue. If heat vs performance is important for you, then yeah, maybe a MacBook air is a good choice. If I didn't need the ram, I would have got the M1 air.
I've never understood the "instant on" thing. All Windows laptops I've had were instant on just like the Mac. It's just Sleep mode.
@@martingifford5415 ikr lol.. recently some laptop window has IR cam which is make it more faster to open the laptop in just a second.. I would say faster than MacBook...
@@markmoriarty7760 and most of the Asus Zenbook models ships with crappy screens (low image and color quality).
Thanks for this I have been researching the macbook air M2 over the weekend for work and this comparison has helped. I'm a windows guy about to use my first Mac 😅
glad it helped! :)
I have a gaming laptop and recently purchased a MacBook Air M2 last year. Been Windows pretty much all my life and honestly I use both even now. My laptop is basically my desktop and the Air is my portable travel computer. I'm an Android user in the US so super minority here but I've never felt the need to jump into the Apple walled garden. Both are excellent OS and fit into my personal workflow but it really depends on your use cases and what you want from your devices
"Andrew Marc David" got 15 hours of Battery life from HP Spectre 14 2024.
Intel Core ultra 7 155H has faster video editing than M3 in Davinchi, Capcut and premiere pro.
@@richiemohanty5107 Fellow Android + Mac user here. I get it!
@@HDRPCwho cares about faster video editing when your laptop dies in 3hrs. I'd rather lose a minute or 2 in video editing and get 10 more hours, than finish faster in a few mins with a dead laptop
“…top notch” as you open the laptop with the notch glaring at me…
Yeah that notch is an eyesore
Yep, only one of those laptops is a "top notch"
I did get the app "topnotch" to get rid of the notch (which I despise).
I stopped using a laptop when I came across the MS Surface Pro 8. I would perhaps consider an iPad pro, but I don't see myself going back to any laptop from the tablet/PC hybrid format anytime in the foreseeable future.
i hear you. SP3 > SP5 > SP8 nowadays. Would just switch for snapradragon elite if it really delivers, but nowadays, i'm very used to this form factor. Even have an surface hub at house to transform in a desktop setup. Works great.
I started with a surface pro 3 and since 5 years I'm perfectly happy with the surface book 2. It really is a all in one. For illustrating, video editing, animation, music production, gaming. Especially with the dock it replaced my desktop instantly.
Since the surface book I never understood how somebody would prefer an iPad pro. Also apple stole the design from the surface book tablet portion.
I feel that. I love my surface Pro seven my only gripe is the battery life of Microsoft could find a way to ensure a legitimate 8 to 10 hours of battery in real world use it would be the perfect machine. I just keep a baseus power bank with me in case I’m not near an outlet
I switched to Linux from Mac Studio (and I'm still adapting to it), haven't used Windows since 2007 (and not planning to) and I use Macbook Pro as its simply the best laptop for my work.
One big question, what monitor do you buy these days for a great workstation that suits the nice look of a clean pc/MacBook?
The Zenbook and M2 Pro were the 2 laptops I had to choose between... Went with the M2 Pro in the endafter being a lifelong Windows (and occasionally Linux) user.
We'll see how it pans out in the end.but for now I like the whisper quietness and the fact I can edit my pictures on the go and not need to worry about finding a power outlet to get through an average day of work
Any update. How is the other side?
@@94ElectronicStill happy with it. But when it ever starts to struggle I might go back to Linux. We'll see what other ARM platforms bring in the future. Untill then I'll far from wholeheartedly pay the apple tax for the stability and battery life and non-plastic chassis. Not to mention it's so clutter free compared to bloatware galore Windows!
@@94ElectronicI also made the switch and couldn’t be more happy.
@@GamingPIPI What about the window snapping. Isnt Windows superior an that aspect?
@@94Electronic i have downloaded rectangle and I feel no difference with windows snapping :) there’s also an app called “command x” and it does the ctrl+x thing :)
A balanced review Tom, good job! I was comfortable and warm in the Apple Walled Garden as well, but got tempted away by the Galaxy Fold. Now my next Laptop will probably be a Framework as I want to be able to upgrade and repair my own things.
Or you can stick with the MacBook and not have to fix and repair junk in the first place?
@@ArthropodSpidey what, just buy new junk then? ;)
@@ArthropodSpideyor he can ditch piece of junk that has to be thrown in the trash when it inevitably dies on him.
@@ArthropodSpidey That's right, you don't fix and repair Apple devices, you just throw them into toxic landfills when they break.
Would always go for a MacBook every time. Currently own both the M1 air from 2020 and the latest M2 air. Battery life is great for both, but I sometimes prefer the older (and cheaper) M1, just because it is so versatile and small. It's the perfect traveling companion. I can't count how often I used it just as a TV/streaming replacement in hotels or while traveling by train.
Currently using the first flow x13. It was cheaper than the equally speced m1 macbook air at the time of buying. Although the battery life of the mac is so much better, that's about it for me. A lot of my friends own the macbook and the struggle they have with windows only software and old software gives me a lot of happiness somehow. Almost all of them have a backup windows device and that says a lot. Also I can run all games on my laptop at playable settings and it would really suck if it couldn't as I have only this one device for proper gaming. For everyone thinking of buying a laptop, just make sure that the device can do what you want it to do. Mac is a better laptop in general but it really depends on the user's needs.
I was choosing a laptop for work about a half year ago, and after lots of consideration, I took Lenovo Yoga 7 on Intel 13700H with a dedicated 4050, 1Tb SSD and 16Gb of RAM. Sometimes it drains the battery faster than I want and has some other minor issues, but on the other hand, it's far more versatile than Mac. You just can do so much more with it that is impossible to do on Mac!
Another youtuber ran tests on the useage of Macbooks from M1 to M3 (all in each range) for music production/ audio mixing et al and found that ironically the M2 and M3 are less equiped to handle pro projects with larger track counts, than the M1 range in a number of DAW instances.
This includes logic, which was surprising, until you see that the increased cores aren't apportioned to performance but to efficiency. That will work well for multi-tasking , but not necessarily for apps that haven't yet been optimised for the changes.
That goes some way in explaining why used macbooks (and macs) don't stick around long enough to buy them at better pricing.
Thanks
@@driftone-ti6qd you're welcome.
That’s so interesting, I am about to study Music Composition at uni soon and will need to get a laptop to run apps like logic, Sibelius etc. Should I keep looking into Macbooks or focus more on windows?
@elleeross4301 Are you aware that the two applications you mentioned can not run natively on windows?
Really good comparison.
Can you do one on the new DELL XPS 14 and the new Asus Duo 14.
I've had Dell XPS 13s for years and am now looking to replace it.
If the Duo is powerful enough, I think it could be the one.
Thanks again, I really enjoy your content.
I switched from my first ever laptop (a Celeron HP) to a 12’ MacBook Air 2015 at university, and then to the M1 MacBook Air a year after it launched. Absolute game-changer. I do miss Windows’ file management and window management system but that’s about it. I’m now looking to upgrade to a 14-inch M3 Pro since I made the mistake of going with an 8GB M1 Air, which isn’t enough for light work with lots of Chrome tabs, light photo editing, and Slack. Avoid 8GB MacBooks if you can - they are still awesome and super smooth but 16GB gives you headroom in case your workflow becomes a bit more demanding. And you aren’t really overpaying since when you sell it down the road, you’d get a bit more money if it has more RAM.
I just ordered last years Zenbook 14x oled, can't wait to get it.
Such an awesome device. Great choice.
Had a Mac Pro from 2011. 2 years later the screen died. Mac store said needed to spend £450 for a new motherboard and wouldn't let me backup my drive even though it's a separate drive. Sent it to a aftermarket store, they backed up the drive for £20. Sold the device for £100. Buyer said they replaced the display ribbon cable for £15 and worked fine.
Decided never to go back to Mac
Especially refusing to lrt you back up your drive. Apple has a *VERY* distorted view of computer/device usage. To THEM the most important thing is the HW/SW itself, and the data be damned. Fothose of us who actually USE our devices, what we've edited or saved on them, the data is the ONLY important thing, and the HW/SW can go scratch. Yes, you're out some money, but you're using the devices to achieve some goal, not to pad the donut-and-sushi budgets of some computer maker.
I'm so glad that my company now give the choice of developer laptops, 10 year long I was forced to use a MacBook as soon as I was allowed I switched to a Asus with linux, even after maxing the ram to 64gb it was a third of the price of the mac and it runs, my docker workload, much much faster
I run windows across work and home PC (desktop and laptops) although I am aiming to get a Mac this year - depending on sales and such as I want to try the environment and see how I can use that OS for some of my uses. Especially interested in logic pro and reigniting my music recording.
great review, I have both mac and PC, I would love someone to do a comparison of the 2 laptops seen here running premiere pro, with timeline scrubbing. Not render times.
I'm currently using an M1 Pro 14 inch MacBook Pro and I'm very happy with it. After using this laptop for over a year and a half, it would be hard for me to go back to a Windows laptop that didn't have comparable power efficiency (so either Windows on ARM or maybe an AMD-powered laptop). It certainly helps that I've been very deep in the ecosystem for a long time now & have a gaming PC at home (along with a PS5, Switch & various previous-generation Xbox & PlayStation consoles) I can use when I do want to game.
apple is efficient in terms of battery. but their OS is really not user friendly. i used it for 4months and i hated it. hard to change settings. hard to minimize maximize windows. external softwares wont work.
Intel latest arc series, the Intel Ultra Chipsets are a direct competition to the M1 chip in terms of efficiency and power.
@@nourishcherish9593 yes, their app snapping ability is really bad compared to windows. i can work faster on dual monitor because of windows snapping rather than mac. in mac i always have to resize windows.
I've been a Windows user since the mid-90s, even got Microsoft Certified back when that was a thing, and I still have a modest gaming PC (an upgraded SFF Dell OptiPlex 7010 with an RTX A2000 GPU) and an ASUS VivoBook S15. About six years ago I started the transition to the walled garden, more for the fun of something new than anything else, with the 2018 Mac mini. Once the M series chips were introduced I made the full transition (desktop, laptop, tablet), but I'm not getting rid of my Windows PC, and my wife has taken over the ASUS laptop.
Honestly these core ultra processors are a step towards the right direction for Intel especially in the laptop segment. The fact that it provides consistent single core performance in geek bench with and without plugged in is really good. The power efficiency has also increased a lot .
Let's see what the Qualcomm X Elite can offer against the core ultra and the Apple M series.
How about speakers, battery, brightness test ? It’s all very important to make a decision
MacBooks battery does laps around windows
She speakers of the Macbook models (especially the 16" version) are the best you can get in a laptop.
The Asus Zephyrus G16 (2024) he showed in the video, also has fantastic speakers.
Yeah it was amazing these important factors were left out. macBook has the best speakers of any laptop I've ever tried, and obviously its battery life is sensational. MBP Pro has a 120Hz screen which is glorious for coding.
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just got a refurbished m2 air and I love it. Feels like brand new could never tell the difference.
Love my new Surface Studio 2 Laptop. Well built, very fast and has the OS that makes sense. Addicted to my touch screen as well.
I will always use both for the different types of work and hobbies I have
same with me. privately, with the photos from my iPhone, I like my Macbook. I only use a Windows device for work. I like them both.
Use rectangle, free version of Magnet.
I've been needing a new laptop for a while but I'll bide my time until the qualcom chips are released and see how Windows on arm works with them before I make my mind up whether I go mac or windows.
@thetechchap The new 2024 XPS models have just shown up on the Dell UK website. Do you have retail units coming in for review?
One reason for me to stick with Windows based laptops is the option for a num pad. It's nice to have when you are working with Excel or accountancy software. Also if you want to run Linux, AMD or Intel based laptops still are the better solution.
Why not buy an Apple keyboard with num pad
@@happysinghrocks I don't want to carry an extra full size keyboard in my backpack when there are excellent thin and light Windows laptops for sale with a built-in num pad.
Also, Microsoft apps don't have hotkeys on MacOS!!@@breaky73
I was there, I bought ultrabook, gaming laptops and MacBooks but I always went back to MacBook.
Noise and batterylife consistency was key! I don’t want to hear a fan when I open word. Fucking word!
Using a M1 Pro and don’t think about moving back to windows.
Like Mac doesnt use the fan. Dont you want a macbook that matchs the color of your eyes?
@@Teluric2my macBook is basically silent for 95% of its life. Even then, the fan is MUCH quieter than any Windows lappie. But the fan is minor compared to the battery life issue.
@@Teluric2 well on Macbook Air there is no fan. It doesn't need it. And on Pros fans are most of the time unused.
@@karmatrainingcan you upgrade the SSD and RAM in your MacBook ?? For me this is the deal breaker and second don't like crapple products
Ideally, I want both. And you're not "stuck for life" with either. I use OneDrive on Mac and when I need to switch I have my most important files. I also have Apple ID, so if I need to switch between both I have this option.
I've used macbook air m1 base model, switching from a Lenovo ryzen 5 laptop which were very fast and snappy, however I cannot get the same battery and ready to work experience without worrying battery life while on mobile and no power outlet available. If the battery issue solved by maybe using arm based soc, things may get more interesting.Oh, and maybe windows based laptop should consider more on speaker quality as well 🙂
I like how fast my MacBook Air is but it has been a whole week and I still don’t understand how to use this thing. I still have to pick up my hp laptop to do my schoolwork because it takes me longer with the workarounds on Mac 😞
"Hardware canucks" got 21 hours of battery life from zenbook 14 in light browsing test.
Core ultra 7 155H has faster video editing than M3 in Davinchi, Capcut and premiere pro.
I sold my HP EliteBook 820 G1 and got myself Macbook Air M1 (found a brand new for €700) - and it's a great laptop for traveling. Sure I have Windows PC at home but if I want to go somewhere and need a computer with me, M1 not only delivers what I need with incredible battery life, but is also silent (no fan), light, secure (if I forget to lock laptop with my Apple Watch it locks automatically the moment I get far enough and unlocks when I return) and it is so easy to work with it with my iPhone - as you said airdrop is amazing. I take a photo or video and bam it's also available on my laptop. Not to mention the ease of use with my Airpods and how easy it connects to my phone for internet without needing to make hotspot myself.
Would I trade my desktop PC for Mac? No. But a laptop? Yes and I'd do it again.
Stop yapping
You forgot the part where every picture you take gets looked over by Apple and numerous 3 letter agencies. 😂
@@Hunter_Bidens_Crackpipe_ with Google there's another thousands of 3rd parties they sold it too for profit after giving it to 3 letter agencies 😂 And same with Microsoft. Nobody is clean.
still loving my zenbook rx433 from 2019! great laptops, cheap replacement parts (did a mobo-upgrade), and keeps working. Probably gonna upgrade when 32gb ram becomes the standaard
ditched my multiple desktops for a macbook air m2 15". I dont play anymore, only code, so I am happy, and the portability is awesome. Though I still prefer windows to macos, so I am tempted to buy a meteor lake laptop at some point, or even better, wait for a qualcomm one, I know they're gonna be awesome. A mini like the um790 is also tempting. I just don't want to be fiddling around with a desktop no more.
As a business productivity (Word, Excel, Powerpoint) focused user, I would never again go with Mac. I tried once in 2008 and again in 2022 (with a M1 Pro 14" Macbook Pro) and both times, my Mac laptop became a glorified table ornament used almost only for web browsing, music/video streaming and video chatting. Windows is a MUCH better platform for anyone who wants to use their PC for office productivity work. With that said, I fully acknowledge that my experience does not reflect that of creative type users. I will also readily acknowledge that Apple always has best in class hardware (which you pay a significant premium for) and their machines are very durable, but if you get a high quality Windows laptop, the same is true. It's just that yes there are $500 budget Windows laptops out there and so when those stop working after two years, that should be expected. If you spend $1000-1500 for a high quality Windows laptop, it will generally last you many years just like a Macbook Air. I'm not trying to knock Apple as they do make great laptops, but MacOS is not for everyone and to buy into the marketing shpiel that Macs are just better is a fallacy.
Whats your best windows laptop? Thinkpad?
@@Dasani31 go with precision line up
The cheap windows laptops will take you years also if you put an ssd in them. Other than hardware failure it will run a long time.
Lenovo ideapad 15ada05 with 2 cores and 16 gb ram = office and streaming stuff nowadays with good battery capacity (400 euros in 2019). I use Linux mint I must say because Windows 11 gets slow in this machine
@@Dasani31thinkpad p series are wonderfull for work
I bought the zenbook a week ago, and i cant stress how much value this machine compared to the macbook alternative. Only bummer is battery life which usually lasts 8-10 hours on medium load.
get a powerbank, it will extend battery life
Intel Core ULTRA has MacBook 2023 level of BATTERY LIFE.
That's amazing.. another Asus Laptop with dedicated RTX graphics from 2022 gives 3-4 hours on medium work load.
@@HDRPC macbook 2020 level
Currently have the base m3pro MBP.. upgraded from m2 air for the sake of more ram after finding a CL deal that I couldn’t pass up. The m3pro is definitely overkill power wise for me but at the same time, I feel like I’m really set for the next 4+ years. The m2 air was great, just regret going for 512/8gb. I also preferred the form and weight of the air but I also like the other upgrades that some with the pro.
I have both for different things, I love using the MacBook but still need windows for certain tasks like file management
I like having a Windows desktop and Mac laptop. Get the best of both worlds.
That's how I'm rolling right now as well.
I am using a 14-inch HP Laptop, running on intel 11th generation processors, (Core i3) and it runs well with games (though Emulators) and my day-to-day tasks. I am hoping for an ARM-based windows machine cause Apple right now is killing it in the PC market with their M series SoCs
Laptop yes in some cases in PC apple is way way behind than desktop class CPUs and GPUs even the weakest 14th gen and 7000 AMD CPUs is lot more powerful than apple
@@-Blue-_ True, the arm for the Desktop doesn't seem ready at the moment, the Intel Core i9 14900K with an RTX 4090 destroys the Apple silicon in the Mac Pro.
@@KevinArogunmati and i don't think apple will surpass Nvidia in GPU because Nvidia is the inventor of GPUs and have mastery in GPUs and Graphical Computing just look at Real Time Ray Tracing Nvidia is the first one to come up with Ray Tracing for consumer and now even apple is following this and many other companies
Rocking an M2 Air and a Steam Deck. Seems like the best of both worlds for now but having to juggle between some compatibility issues on both with certain apps and games can be frustrating at times. Having said that, unplugged the Mac in the morning and I've been using it pretty much all day (had a long meeting, music, tabs and software on all day, edited an entire video... etc.) and I'm on 29%. The M2 air is an efficiency beast!
That's because Intel x86 CPUs were designed for desktop computers!
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Does any Windows laptop have true all day battery life while being near silent? Looking for a Mac alternative.
So far I found only 1. The framework 16 with ryzen 7 and w/o dedicated GPU
Or you can Msi prestige 14 evo b13m with 15+ hrs of battery life
Remember battery life will vary according to the usage! That battery life mentioned to " typical use case" scenarios !
No, Windows’s chip allocation does not allow that, too many configurations, and Microsoft does not customize their OS for every single configuration, even their best business partner, Intel, has trouble with their recent big little core designs with OS not allocation the cores most efficiently.
Thinkpad T14S Gen4 or any other thinkpad, preferably with AMD CPU.
After 4 Macbooks Pro since 2004, I finally bought a Windows' laptop for my post-production workflow. My last Macbook Pro died two weeks ago, the second time in three years and for the same problem (burned motherboard). Apple's prices and lack of repairability make me reflect, and I decided that for the moment they are not worth it for me. My new Windows' laptop does not have the same battery efficiency, but for a fraction of the price of the M3 Max Macbook Pro, I have the performance and quality that I need from my professional equipment. Windows is not Mac OS, but I am enjoying its customization.
Your windows laptop die even faster.
@@nnnnnn3647 I will take my chances. The next device to bite the dust maybe yours. But who knows.
@@Motion_PM I had a dozen or so laptops. Only the wintel ones were broken.
@@nnnnnn3647 For me It has been three iPhones, with problems that could not be fixed. All the problems were after the 1st year of warranty expired. Also, all my Macbook Pros (for the exception of my 2012 Pre-Retina Macbook Pro) had to go to the repair shop at some point. Apple is not the epitome of quality that many people believe or preach.
@@nnnnnn3647liar. My neighbor has like 5 laptops all of them work but they look beaten up one is 2014.
I am and have been for quite sometime fully immersed in the Apple ecosystem. Currently I upgraded to a Space Black M3 Pro MacBook Pro (36 GB ram/1 TB ssd) model and I nstalled Windows 11 on ARM via Parallels Desktop v 19.2.1 (4 core/8 GB vm) as well. The VM boots Win 11 in 10 seconds and at that point I can run any app. I therefore have Co-Pilot available if I need it.. By the way, with 36 GB or ram, running macOS and the VM together I have never encountered any swap usage on my system. That amount of system ram provides much needed "headroom".
In your opinion then what is better for editing 360 x3 video and pictures and DJI drone videos and pictures? Cheers
I grew up using PCs and then I bought a macbook pro in 2015 and havent gone back since. This macbook from almost 10 years ago still runs really well. Every laptop PC I used to use would maybe last 3-4 years tops before I noticed a downhill in performance and battery life.
odd im using a thinkpad t410 and only thing thats gone is the battery but its fine cause its easily replaceable, meaning this laptop has lasted 14 years without breaking down
it's a lie. Then u definitely bought a cheaper PC. Some of you do unnecessary comparisons. if u would be true to yourself, just buy a Windows PC at the same selling price as the Mac. The Mac is just overpriced because of the brand not because of performance.
@@addoconstant How you gonna say someones else's experiences is a lie? The mac book pro literally out performs a lot of flagship laptop PCs just look at the performance comparisons for the M2 & M3 pros.
How much was the PC and how much was the Mac?
@@addoconstantwell tbh that argument is getting a little old since macbooks of the same price are often using better hardware for everything when compared to contenders. The case itself, trackpad which is haptic, speakers, cpu which is still quite ahead in technology especially compared to intel, and screen which has often best brightness and color accuracy and contrast (no oled doesn’t automatically mean its better than mini led), and all if that while mostly matching or enhancing performance while staying quiet. Because benchmarks are nice but you are never going to use the performance of your laptop if it means the fans get insanely loud or the battery will die in just an hour
Once Windows laptops offer arm chips, this will be a more interesting conversation. Longer battery and the same power without being plugged in is the biggest advantage Apple has. But for most users, that's huge.
assuming we have good app compatibility. But yep looking forward to Snapdragon X Elite in the summer
I can buy TWO interesting laptops or one laptop one desktop with money to spare for ONE Macbook..and upgrade them both.Battery life? I can take my TWO WiN machines,and use them yet really when i travel I am not away from an outlet for more than 4 hours..Let's be logical..
It depends on where you work. If you are at a coffee shop or on an Indonesian beach, then MacBooks are the best choice. Also, college students fighting for spots at the library with a charging port.
If you only work at home or an office with tons of charging ports, the battery life advantage goes away. Who needs 13+ hours of battery life when you are finished with work after 8 hours?! Most want to watch TV, do some activities, or spend time talking to family & friends instead of being on their laptop. Cellphones can cover text messaging or social media apps.
Just as thetechchap mentioned it depends on app compatibility, which is really the only strong-force of windows
@@akin242002 Most folks do not work in places where there are not adequate numbers of charging spots..Common sense is why I have a powerbrick that charges multiples devices for the day, and if I go far a solar charger as well. If you have $7000 for a laptop, fine get one, because I would ,yet folks on YT pretend they are so important, just to do it.
using a lenovo thinkpad and also have a decent desktop for gaming, thinking of upgrading to macbook bc i also have an iphone and the airdrop features will definitely make life easier for college
I am on the same trajectory, I am considering going for a MacBook when purchasing my next Laptop. I have a surface pro X at the moment which is not really a laptop.
I'm a retired developer, FWIW. I bought an Asus CX34 Chromebook Plus recently for £245 and I'm in laptop heaven. Before that I ran ChromeOS Flex on an old laptop that my son used at uni.
A developer needs more than a Chromebook.
@@desistarrecords I run Android Studio and VSC on my Chromebook. I also ran them on ChromeOS Flex.
@@markbracegirdle7110 Good to know that.
@@desistarrecords I was gobsmacked when I got Android Studio running well on a Lenovo G50-30, running ChromeOS Flex.
@@markbracegirdle7110 That's surprising
I think the xps 16 would be my ideal laptop with a decent GPU right now
King of overheating is not worth your money.
@@theworldoffun8997 undervolt
@@ZOOOKAGEno physical fuction keys is deal-breaker to me, g16 2024 is better in overall, xps line up always has poor reliability, overheat and overprice laptop
Like @TechChap I was a serial XPS owner until Apple Silicon came along and now I’m also trapped in an ecosphere of MacBook, iPad, iPhone, Beats etc. Meanwhile the quality and customer service of Dell has plummeted - countless bad experiences of the enterprise laptops at work and the Black Edition I bought my son for uni. 🤬
Use case & software needs are the decider but the Apple user experience, sales & after sales support are streets ahead of any other brand. Also worth pointing out that Windows laptops are increasingly coming with soldered in RAM etc. I would buy a Windows laptop again but only with an AMD chip. Intel is a busted flush.
@@QuanNguyen_2710macbooks are not overpriced? you must be living in a rock to not know that?
I feel like this video is 6 months early. You should revisit this when Qualcomm Snapdragon X Elite Windows laptops are out (like the Surface Laptop 6 in June).
Zenbook from this bunch but I use the Zenbook Fold 17 personally.
Tom you can't just generalize Windows to that one laptop and can't compare Mac vs Windows in this way. It's much broader discussion than that. Laptops vs desktops - specific usecases for laptops vs desktops, type of applications and their availability, interaction behavior with other OSs, then is the actual OS usability, spirit of upgradability and generalization vs no upgradability and specialization etc etc.
I'm sticking with the advantages of the PC platform.
This video is just about laptops. And the video talks about all sorts of windows laptops. Just for the visual aspect, I've selected 1 from each side to have on my desk. But if you watch the whole video I am talking about much broader points
Battery life is the real deal breaker .
both of theme one for random use and hobby and a lot of apps, one for doing regular tasks and stability
The issue is i may wanna use revit in the future , but i really want to try the Mac experience. What do you guys recommend in my case
Hey Chaps! Are you team Mac or Windows?
Windows forever for gaming
Windows team
Mac
Mac, windows not more good
as someone w an m2 mac, should've got a windows
Air Drop? MSFT has Drop in the Edge browser as long as you are signed in. I use it extensively on my iphone. Take a pic on my iphone. Open Edge. Go to Drop and then 'drop' the pic there. Edge on my laptop will notify instantly there's a pic waiting. Or it could be any file or document.
Gosh, don't forget universal updates and support in Appleland! As a former Android user (last: Note20U), that was THE thing (along with my 16" M1 Pro) that chased me back to Apple. Still a happy camper. Won't be updating to Android/Windows any time soon, although I do keep my foot in that world via my XPS 9530 (i9, 4070).
You don't need an app for Mac window management. Just Option-click/hold the green window zoom button (or click-hold then press Option) & you can split-view the current desktop rather than a new space - if that's really what you want.
I can never get used to how terrible Finder and multitasking windows are on Mac. It's an absolute dealbreaker, and I'm saying this while typing this on my MacBook lmao... I won't be going back if I ever get a decent Windows laptop.
I use finder alternatives like forklift. But yea finder can be a pain
Having to use the Macs at work on occasion finder feels like something from decades ago 😂.
Software at a core level iOS or MacOS just seems behind really. Multitasking is just a basic example of that
How is multi-tasking worse? It's literally a Unix OS. Unix was doing multi-tasking a full 14+ years before Windows even existed.
@@driven01 in iOS it's basically non existent. Well you can bounce back and forward between apps. Maybe that's why they thought one computer screen in the vision pro was ample 🤷♂️
In MacOS window management is just clunky.
@@Spoonfed78That's not at all what multi-tasking is. (Sorry, CS professional here, terms actually have meanings). That's a UI feature to organize your visible apps. You are talking about YOUR multi-tasking, not the computers.
But to that point, you can use CMD-Tab, you can use the 3 finger spread on the track pad to get an overview of all your apps, you can use multiple desktops. I can actually get more done on MacOS in that regard than Windows. (One of the reasons I use it as my daily development / creative OS).
As for the Vision Pro, I have NO idea. If I had $3,500 laying around, I'm doubt I'd use a Vision Pro as a productivity tool. But regardless, it's a first gen product. That can be fixed with software, and it likely will be.
Good talk, thanks for that.
Those that have been using Windows for a long time will find MACOS slowing down productivity.
When you fullscreen in MacOS, it will fullscreen that application in another Desktop.
When you hover over a open app, MacOS will not show all opened application.
Completely incorrect. Try again. Lol. Workflow will increase.
2+ external monitors = windows is faster/easier. Single screen without the need to constantly switch between “windows” = Mac.
@@Techfanatic73I disagree. I’m going back to Windows because of productivity.
@@Techfanatic73 you should try again.. for productivity, it is not even close, especially for the window management. for how less CZcamsrs are talking about the lack of basic features, I was taken aback by the lack of simple, but useful features.
1. Tiling the windows/ saving those configurations (Stagemanager was worse than no stage manager, it took half the space in a 13 inch laptop)
2. you literally don't have a preview of your app on alt+tab, (causes a horryfing disease where people swiping trackpad 5+ apps before reaching their app)
3. screenshots are as feature rich as windows 8, no partial screenshots, no text recognition, no video recording etc.
4. The fck is wrong with the window buttons? you can't just yeet the mouse to close the app / icons are not recognisable, and maximising doesn't maximise the window
5. HOW HARD is it to implement proper multi desktops? pop os does it, windows does it, why make it a pain in the ass?
and much more...
yes i feel windows is very faster, snappy to work faster due to snapping abilities on dual monitors. on mac animations are too smooth feels like slowing down productivity.
I’ve been using MacBook 13 Pro for the last 4 years, switched to the MacBook 14 pro briefly before i bought an ASUS Vivobook OLED for half the price and honestly, i don’t know why i didn’t do it sooner. I feel unshackled and free for some reason.
I have an old-fashioned work arrangement (pre-pandemic style). I only do work, at work and on my company provided Windows laptop. So my home computing is rather simple, browsing mostly, so I'm using Chromebooks great battery life and form factors. One is a tablet, the other a traditional laptop.
Would like to add a bit of context, as this video portrays the two devices as being close as far as performance:
Over the last 20 years i've owned & daily-drove 14 windows-based laptops. They had spanned a wide variety of brands & price ranges. Currently i run a fully-spec'd Lenovo ThinkPad X1 Carbon, which I've had for 1 year and 4 months. During the same time period, I've owned 5 macbook offerings.
The longest I've had a Windows laptop survive was a little over 2.5 years. Like clockwork, once they had hit close to the 2 year mark, they would either fail catastrophically, or would have degraded so far in performance they were rendered inoperable.
On the Mac side, my 2006 MacBook & 2011 MacBook Air still run to this day. I use the MacBook Air as an emulation station, and the 2006 decorates one of my book shelves. My daily workstation is an original MacBook Pro M1 from 2021. I run this device 24 hours a day, and only restart when a software update is released; I've never had an issue with it.
The other stark difference between the two is battery life.
My Pro M1 can run for days without charging. It delivers almost 18 hours of battery for light CZcams streaming. My Lenovo can achieve almost 3.5 hours, and the older devices were worse. The newest & best Windows devices are catching up finally, offering 8-11 hours of use for very light tasks, but the gap is still significant.
Do not mistake sharing my personal experience as Windows-bashing: Windows is a fantastic operating system, and I enjoy the devices I have. I have a gaming PC which I run daily & love. Unfortunately, due to Windows having to cater to a plethora of brands & devices, the gap will continue to exist. Mac doesn't shoulder the burden of developing their platform to work for other brand devices, as well as their own. Windows is riddled with redundancies to play nice with all, which decimates battery & performance. As the old adage goes: Nice guys finish last.
If you were looking to transition away from Apple Silicon expecting to purchase a Windows laptop of equivalent performance & battery life, you may find you regret the swap regardless of spec. Build quality, battery life, longevity, & compute power will fall short of your previous device. That said, for 90% of the populous a Windows device will exceed their expectations & be more laptop than they'll ever need.
Please allow me to reiterate: there is absolutely nothing wrong with a Windows device, so long as you tailor your expectations.
I love technology in every form, regardless of suitability for my current workflow. Having so many options is what fosters innovation & growth.
My first introduction to computing was on a Windows Pentium II, and I've been enthralled ever since.
This video has several excellent points, listing many key features for both parties. Just wanted to throw some personal experience into the mix, as most choose one platform & stick to it!
And as for the 2 giants that are Apple & Windows, battle-away for platform supremacy; the rest of us only stand to gain from this heavyweight bout.
(p.s... a non-laptop note: Comparing Apple's headset with a Quest device is ludicrous. Quest device is a headset that can enhance (using that term lightly) a laptop's usability in certain situations. Apple Vision Pro is a computer in itself, not requiring an external Laptop to achieve an infinitely-more polished experience. Highlighting the price-gap without explaining capability is unfair. You wouldn't compare a Toyota Corolla & a Lamborghini Huracán solely on price. That would be a disservice to the Lamborghini Engineering team, and more praise than a Corolla ever deserves. Again, there is absolutely nothing wrong with Quest headsets; tailoring expectations to align on costing & capability is key.)
One other important factor is the absolute absence of bloatware on macOS. When you first boot it up, it offers the cleanest possible experience. I am so sick of Dell and their bloatware, it takes hours to get rid of it when you buy a new laptop. No such issue with Macs.
What a trash comment
thanks for the additional experience sharing
Zenbook, any day of the week.
Yep, I agree, I am currently using a Zenbook Flip that I bought 3 years ago. Never owned Asus before, but so far a great experience.
I’ve been using windows almost exclusively for 30 years (started with windows 95). Tried Macs back in 2003, graphics and image quality were superior but couldn’t get used to the system, gave it another go last year because I use the iPhone, iPad and AirPods and haven’t looked back. I still have a thinkpad for work related applications which don’t support Macs as well and I don’t game on PCs as I have a Ps5 and a steam deck. I’m finding the Mac faster for my workflow and much easier to use since my last attempt. Only thing I probably miss is the windows file system, but other than video and photo editing have been much better
MacBook air M2 for Netflix and light browsing and HP firefly g10 with i7-1360P for VMs and other IT related work.
Battery life is def. way better on Macs for sure and display for movies, the rest is windows for me.
I love Windows so much more. I am running Windows 11pro on a laptop and I like its functionality. Like the snapping of screen splits.
Apple: Using an external drive is so difficult to set up and I always need to connect to my NAS manually.
A real world comparison of these two laptops would be great. the Zenbook seems like a great option on paper to replace an older macbook I have.
you used macbook before, why you want to switch to windows?
@@ahmadafnan3756 something different
My preference for Mac is for several reasons:
1. From what I've read and experienced, no one makes a touchpad as good as Apple. On my work Windows laptop, even with the touchpad sensitivity set to low, when I'm typing, sometimes my palm will inadvertently touch it and move the cursor somewhere else. Very maddening. And I love the haptic feedback and that you can click (not just tap) anywhere on it instead not being able to click at the top of a standard Windows touchpad (although I've read that there are a few Windows machines with haptic touchpads now, but they are still not as good as a MacBook's).
2. Rarely any fan noise on my MacBook Pro. Fans almost always run on my Windows laptop.
3. Find macOS to be much more intuitive, usable, and delightful to use than Windows.
4. Love the whole ecosystem, such as tightly integrating with my iPhone and being able to Airdrop files among Apple devices.
5. The hardware is premium, the laptop is thinner and lighter, and battery life is much better than the Windows laptop I'm using.
6. I generally need to make far less tweaks to a Mac to get it working the way I like.
I will admit that Macs are more expensive, and it's a bummer that you can't expand the memory. But it's the sum of the parts that, for me, makes for a much better experience on a Mac.
I am torn as I am a windows user but I want a powerful lightweight editing machine for social media mainly. I have a tuf 15 i7 with a 3070 but it's too chunky to use on the go.
Tips ?
Windows for gaming, Linux or Mac for programming!
You can game on Linux @@darthvader1191
For me, the question isn't Mac or PC. It's notch or notchless.
U Got that rigjt, also do not forget stupid ssd soldering
Dumbest comment ever. Thats like picking your new vehicle cause you like the speedometer....smh
@@Techfanatic73 it's like buying products based on design. And that's absolutely OK.
This comment makes no sense
The notch is stupid and distracting
For me, it’s the differences in the MS Office on each of the OSes. Just so used to the MS native version. The Apple version does things differently enough for me to not want to switch, especially in the Outlook, a key business tool. Web version, sure, but still not as good as a native app.
There's an awful lot to be said for familiarity, especially if a change might slow you down a bit until you get used to it. Change can be fun, though!
I actuality went the other way . Just broke free from Apple's walled garden. I do miss several things but love the open source and customization of Android and Windows. As you mentioned the gap is getting smaller and I'm hopeful for the future. Another great video, keep up the good work
I have both Mac and Windows laptop and I have to say my Windows laptop absolutely smokes my M2 MBA at everything. My laptop has a i7 12700H/RTX 4070 combo for less money than my M2 MB. Huge bonus is that I can upgrade my Windows laptop.
Best performance?
Love my 16” M1 Pro MacBook Pro. Just the workflow is amazing on Mac OS compared to windows. I use mine specifically for software engineering for work and everything else as well. My one computer I own and use for everything.
I want to buy a new laptop, i have an old EliteBook and i am thinking to buy a new one and I was thinking about these 2 (ASUS Zenbook and MacBook Air) what should I buy for work not gaming?
M1 macbook pro has 10 cores and 8 are for performance.
Serious question: Does anyone actually watch these Mac vs Windows videos to make a purchase decision? I feel like the pros and cons have been the same for the past 20 years and as such we all just watch these videos for entertainment reasons