Mac vs Windows - Who Wins in 2024?
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- čas přidán 26. 04. 2024
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Interesting…
The problem is, he forgot to add Rickkk......
I can’t wait to watch this
Comic sans???
Great Editing👍
Josef is an absolute genius.. He told Arun he didn't know whether to get Mac or Windows so he ended up getting both lmao
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Yes
lmao
thanks for the spoiler
twasn't a spoiler lol
@@GoofyahhGuy.
The problem here is that this is not "Windows" vs Mac. It's this particular Dell computer. There are so many options available at this price point.
very good point.
True.. Because you can find other laptop that can give the MAC way more run for it's money
The Dell XPS 15 is no slouch, and there are very few options, if any, that will give you a better, smoother Windows experience. Windows feels like it was made for developers and technicians and MacOS always feels like it was made for... people.
And I'm someone who has used Windows almost exclusively. But there are things which are hard to deny. In terms of pure, uninterrupted and joyful interaction with your laptop, Macs are just... better.
@@GenghisKhanPolitics smoother window experience? This is why this test is odd. Windows has so many options available for whatever "windows experience" you're looking for. For example: You're a gamer - you go with a more gaming focused option. Mac has...1 option. The Mac. Not to discredit it as it is a great computer in itself, but you are kinda pigeonholed to 1 option. The Dell is something I would never choose as my option, and others might. I use a MacBook every single day for work (music engineering) and can say when it comes to fun and joy out of my computer, that's typically from my PC, not my Mac
@@GenghisKhanPoliticsWindows is really bad for developers when compared to linux and even mac due to drivers, the many quirks of the Windows window manager and much more. Microsoft even kind of acknowledged it when developing WSL.
So this is Dell vs Macbook, not Mac vs Windows. Barely talked about the OS, just talked about Dell's laptop vs a Macbook. Like wat about an X1 Carbon, imo those r better than XPS
Mac has also an automatic window positioning included. Normal - Full screen - "tile window to the left
ight screen"
You can also get Magnet which will do the Windows tiling for you too. Anything that is on a PC can be done on a Mac too
ok then play cyberpunk 2020 on a mac mwuahahahaha@@michaelriga6431
@@michaelriga6431Yeah, but that means that you need to install a third party app too, as for the Windows that has this built in
hello my skibidi sigma friend
@@GabrielCraioveanu no its on windows 11 and 10 already
There's some missing points on your end:
1- upgradability
2- variety of choices 300$-5000$ laptops
Also as an engineer it's literally not an option since 80%+ of the software I need isn't even available on Mac.
I think it boils down to the person's needs and choice there is no clear winner
also as an engineer (at least me with cad) you need professional graphics cards (like the nvidia a seires) that aren't aviable on mac
You can tell hes not using a laptop as main, upgradability and choice is the main reason i would never buy a macbook, i do own an iphone though.
As someone who once read a book about engineering, I can say with assurity that funny cat videos run so much more smoothly on Windows vs Macs
@@KilledByThatTrain oh thank you, I don’t know what I would’ve done without that information 🫡🫡
imo after switching to windows, I love it, its honestly really customisable. Even down to the accent color and what the gestures on the trackpad do. Windows is a clear winner for me
You are not testing Mac Vs widows, you are testing Dell Vs Apple
A comparison with a surface laptop would be better and it would be a real windows vs Mac
@@amaruguadamuz2824 I agree wholeheartedly
@@amaruguadamuz2824this dell is better than most if not all surface laptops.. this comparison is better
now i know the boss wouldn't ever do this but it would be interesting if you installed linux on both and compared them then
(also i find it interesting that price was mentioned but didn't show up on the scoreboard)
Imo there are better laptops than the xps15 out for the same price or cheaper
Bro the arm was still showing at the snap edit 😭
Yeah I’m 16 and I can edit better this this guy 😭
He was trolling the whole video, all the text was in comic sans
Beautiful editing Jozef I really enjoy how you use Comic Sans which is definitely my favourite font
you're welcome Patrick, I do it for the love of the fans so this means a lot. Can I print this comment out and put it on my fridge?
@@jozefdoyle4621Mr Jozef I really admire you editing too! Could you tell me what you use to edit videos?
@@jozefdoyle4621 Real?
@@jozefdoyle4621love your editing on every video
The fact that unboxing is a point equal to performance is mind blowing
Yep, its kinda like choosing a car acording to how cool it looks, instead of focusing on repairability, gas millage and endurance. 😅
Yeah not ok. Otherwise a solid comparison.
@@trowawayaccnah its even worse. Since you do look at your car everyday, especially the interiour. You unbox once. Thats it.
Right? I was also confused why he didn't give both of them a point. Both unboxings seem fine to me?
@@trowawayacc Its not kinda like that. Its like choosing a car according to how nice the showroom is. Its fucking ridiculous
As much as I would like to buy a macbook,for the awesome screen,baterry,sound,optimization it has,the lack of compatibility with apps is in my opinion what makes macbook pretty much useless,I want to be able to use any and every app out there,I am not a person that just sticks to 2 or 3 tools that everyone uses and calls it a day,I need customizability to be able to use apps that were just released and that no one would think of using.
Love your vids
Yeah, it is not for everyone, but assuming that the apps you need are on both platforms then the Macs are simply better. This was not even a fair test as you can get a MB Pro 14 M2 Pro for a similar price to the XPS 15 ATM!
Agreed
get an intel based Mac with bootcamp options.
And this is the first time I feel like arun has a mac bias
LOVE UR VIDS keep upp the grind
Literally watching this on the same XPS 15 from the video. Bought it last September and am very happy with it.
How is the battery?
@@harshbardhanshah Could be better. Nothing to write home about. Couple hours I’d say but it depends on what you’re doing.
On the security side you’re half right. Yes, Mac is far less susceptible to viruses and other attacks. BUT, once a Mac gets infected it’s an absolute horror show because there are also less tools and far less knowledge on how to remove nasty viruses from Macs.
Oh and you should have gone with “a subscribe would be MACnificent” 🤭
To be fair macos has very good tools to prevent it from getting to that stage at all which windows still needs to catch up on. To be honest, I don’t think it’s a lot more harder to remove viruses from macs than from windows at least from my perspective
MacOS has a wonderful thing called SIP (System Integrity Protection). All system files are on a read only partition and cannot be modified. Not even by root. So your system will likely never become corrupt. Malware Bytes can removed the vast majority of malware on MacOS. And by default, MacOS won't even open an application if it isn't signed by Apple. And if you want to bypass that, the OS will still complain until you right-click and then click Open on the application. And on top of all this, if software wants to gain access to your files, you have to explicitly allow it. In Photoshop, if I save a file to a folder, then I get a pop up from the OS saying "Photoshop wants access to XYZ Folder, allow/deny". All of this is of course moot if someone finds a kernel level exploit, or some kind of exploit in the OS to gain system rights. Although, again, Apple has auto-patching of the system if they gain wind of an exploit like this. Once a fix is made, your machine will be patched right away, making you safe from it.
Thats why linux is the best middle ground if you dont consider the stability...if you wanna mess with security, kali linux, or if normal desktop, ubuntu or mint OS@@game_time1633
@@game_time1633 I mean, Windows has Smart App Control. What do you think they'd need to add? I think really on macOS, all that stops you is you need to really consciously consent to run a downloaded application ("You've downloaded this from the internet and it's from an untrusted developer, go to system preferences to allow this app to run"), but again, this exists on Windows too doesn't it?
@@game_time1633windows defender , windows safe mode. There are so many tools built in
I think you missed an extremely important point here, which is upgradability.
I replaced the battery on my 5 year old Dell XPS 15, and it is basically all new.
If you are someone who likes some tinkering, you can also upgrade the ram, ssd, wifi card, do repasting and undervolting.
I did all that in addition to switching to a linux operating system, and my laptop is performing much better than a new/stock laptop.
Edit: Some have pointed out that you can also upgrade on a MacBook, and you are absolutely right!
Though for my XPS 15 and other Windows laptops, switching batteries is very simple and I paid about 60€ for a 97Wh battery.
Another point is also that you can set the charging limit to say 75% which preserves its life expectancy even more. I am not sure if it is possible on a Mac though..
At the end of the day I think both laptops are amazing, it just depends on what you value more :)
You can upgrade a MB battery though in my many years of using Macs I have never had to. My MB Pro 15 from 2015 still has a healthy battery!
i also replaced the battery on my MacBook Air 2017 and its basically new again
@@andyH_Englandyeah for sure bro. But i am pressing 'x' to doubt.
Contrary to popular beliefs Batteries aren't magic. Ain't no freakin way ur batteries are still doing good after 8 f yrs.
talking about upgradability using laptop or macbook??
um... think again
there is no such thing in these 2 categories
@@naqibfarhan4356 I only charge my battery to 80% and that increases the life cycles by around two times. When on power I use the battery at 50% which reduces degradation. I think if you know what you're doing, and know how to preserve batteries you can make them last. Last. Sadly many people just abuse them and think they will last forever and then start whining when they don't.
Amazing video and this was very helpful😊
I've had an XPS 15 for a little over 7 years and it is still going strong. I edit 6K raw video with it, not ideal of course, video has gotten a lot more demanding since I got this laptop and I'm planning an upgrade pretty soon, but still very surprising how reliable it has been.
One issue I have with this video is that Arun should have played songs for the speaker tests cause if he only shows a video of him speaking for a speaker test, we would only be able to hear the high and mid range frequency performances of the speakers. In addition to that driver performance, sound detail, and bass etc are very important and to test that playing music would have been way better.
I mean, i would choose Windows, because screw Apple
Microsoft is a lesser evil though, I'll admit
@@LavaCreeperPeople I mean, I would choose Linux, because screw Microsoft
He only wants you to watch his videos anyways😂
@@LavaCreeperPeople why?
Risks a copyright strike
My only problem is there isn't a lot of scientific reasoning for these. Like you said the displays were really similar but then have it to the Mac just because of resolution. There are still color accuracy, refresh rates and other things for almost every category you have set up.
He gave it to the mac because of resolution and better colors. Refresh rate is the same on both
@@BobRossRightHand He gave it to the mac because he likes the mac and he is used to that screen
@@fifaarw2998Pretty sure he isn't using a Macbook Air so he wont be used to that screen, he gave it because of what I said
@@BobRossRightHand he never mentioned color just resolution and brightness! And again for other categories there are other subtleties that could go either way.
@@OffMeta-Gaming The Macbook has better colour accuracy than the XPS; it doesn't really matter if he mentioned it or not.
13:49 if you hold on the green button that is used to make the screen bigger, it will give you a drop down menu to choose left or right like halfscreens
I had a dell windows computer up until this Christmas, when I got a MacBook air m2. From my experience, I’ve LOVED my MacBook.
same bro I had an hp till 2020 then I got m1. even for iphone the same thing
Same! Another thing not talked about is the heating issues on the XPS 15. I decked mine out, but it has a BAD overheating problem and throttles the speed and efficiency, completely making the performance abilities go down the drain. Not sure if they have majorly overhauled this, but I had a 2020 model.
There is no way you prefer a windows, you have to be out of your mind. Exceptions: gaming, a specific program compatibility
@@JoaoLopes-ur9il exactly bro mac better
@@JoaoLopes-ur9il I said I like MacBook better??
I think repairability should also be an important factor. Apple is soldering SSDs and locking sensors and doing all kinds of shenanigans which make repairs either a nightmare, or so cost prohibitive that buying a replacement becomes a viable option.
Perhaps not very important for those who can afford to buy two $1600 laptops, but most consumers don't have that kind of money, and people often tend to go over-budget with laptops because "Its an investment, it will last many years".
exactly
the repairing cost for mac is greater mess than buying the product
I want a laptop, which one do u advise me? (Im not rich!😂)
@@MK-hw2ir windows
@@MK-hw2irif your not rich then windows anyway. With apple, your price to performance is shocking. You are just buying it for its looks
They are know for fuckup your own phones in purpose, hire jailbreakers to add their customs features and as you say repairing is a nightmare, remember not long ago not all repair shops will be able to to repair iphones since there is a soft which will know if the hardware part is coming from apple or not
Gonna be honest with you Arun, there are better Windows laptops you can get for that same $1600. Wouldn't really put this as an apples to apples comparison.
With the same dimension?
Yes...I was like bruh you chose such a generic laptop for 1600
Your right it’s a apples to windows conversation 🤡🤡🤡
Someone has to be the sponsor of the video (apple)
Dude could have bought a gaming laptop wit 1600 with literally better specs. I was like, Dell vs Macbook? bruhh... theres tons of other brands out there better than the macbook
I bought a macbook air with m1 and absolutely loved the build quality, design and how the os felt. The only reason I need a laptop is to work on my web dev projects when im not home. Very soon I realised that I had to replace 50% of the apps I use in my workflow and I even had to emulate one of the apps from windows with wine because there was no alternative at all for mac. I was already thinking to switch to a windows laptop because of this and finally took the decision after I bought a docking station to connect my 2 monitors when I’m away for a long time. Seems like the air with m1 is limited by software to only support 1 external monitor.
still the same problem with the air with m3 lol
Bro Josef is such a goat for putting in those memes in it makes the watching experience so much better 😂😂
0:24 that floating hand
And his shoulder lol
Ikr 😂
Good job
As a software developer compatibility is a big thing for me.. I have had macs in the past.. and they aren't even compatible with themselves, it seems that major OS updates frequently break various applications.. with Windows I have apps that I have written from the 90s that still continue to work even on Windows 11!
Take GTK3. Ventura completely broke it to the point where apps that I'd written with GTK3 on macOS has some really weird issues on Ventura
True, I couldn't run the backend that my old boss run at all, have to do alot of stupid hacky things with npm version and every packages of that project, that took me 2-3 days to configure, until I bought msyelf a window laptop, and could run it easily without having to configure anything except the npm version itself. And you can use WSL2 to develop web server on Linux for maximum compatibiliity!!!! How crazy is that??? You can even run Bash command on a cmd with WSL installed!!!! Like that's a deal breaker for me right there.
I wish I don't need a mac to release fking IOS app. Hate that shit to the core.
Yes, because Microsoft doesn't get rid of the old libraries, which is great for compatibility, but also pretty bad for some developers. I heard a lot about how these libraries are a nightmare to work with. Also you can see how Microsoft doesn't get rid of some UI stuff and other things which were used for example on Windows 7. I am currently on Windows 11 but in some applications when I alt+tab I see Windows 7 UI show for a brief moment.
Wdym I’m running decade old Apps fine on mine.
@@sh1dori366 Microsoft has very little to do with libraries nor would i know what libraries they offer other than some window hooks and some stuff in C# that nobody uses .Net is dead....the x86 & x64 architectures use pretty ancient structure... but unless you're programming in machine code that really doesn't concern you.... and neither MacOS nor Windows is written in Machine Code since they dropped the dependency on Dos & Unix
15:15 I actually just got an rog strix g16 and if you are looking for a gaming laptop id 100% recommend
I just got the Macbook Air M2 yesterday, and it's one of my best experiences that I ever had with any electronics.
One obvious downslide is of course the lack of games that you can play on the Mac ios, but since I already have my gaming laptop it's not that much of an issue :D
There should be an added category for upgradability and repairability. Considering most users use their laptop for a long time, there will be issues with components, some might not be good enough for your current use case. Upgrading a laptop can make it last much longer, same goes for repairability. Thats where I think apple would get minus points, their repair costs are so high you might as well buy a new pc
you still can't upgrade CPU and GPU on the Windows machines though, so that argument goes right out of the window. RAM and storage are the only negatives and these don't actually increase performance which is needed as tasks get more demanding. On desktops, yes, full win. The desktop Macs don't even stand a chance.
@@PvtAnonymous While you do have a point, RAM and SSD upgrades are still a huge thing for people who want longevity. RAM in some cases can help a lot with performance if you used to have 8/16GB and need more. It's also relieving to know you can upgrade your storage at any point you want, rather than having to get a brand new laptop just to upgrade to more SSD.
@@agiverreviga4592 as someone working in the laptop repair industry, I can tell you from experience that very few people actually upgrade their computers. This is only a thing among tech-savvy people, everyday-consumers don't really care, even if they can upgrade every single component. Sad truth. Would be nice if you didn't have to go through such hassle with microsoldering to upgrade RAM and SSDs in Macs, but I honestly just buy the config I need from the start. No one complains about lack of upgradability in phones, so neither do I about computers.
the only comment that matters here. but this channel is not very objective when it comes to "apple-fan-boyizm" . SSDs have lifetime span, try to replace one on a MAC - impossible
@@anonylesss it's not impossible, just very difficult.
Keep in mind that Mac puts their BIOS on the SSD, and you can't replace the ssd. So when your storage drive dies, your computer turns into a paperweight, with no way to boot into an external drive or replace the SSD. Louis had a video recently about this
Hi fellow ROSSMANN REPAIR GROUP follower 👋
This is more or less right, but misleading (And I did watch Louis’ video.
If the SSD dies (Which is a common problem with the 2019 MacBook Pro, DEFINITELY DON’T buy that) the computer doesn’t turn into a paperweight, unless you don’t want to send it to Apple or one of their third party repair options if Apple isn’t on your country, you can’t repair it yourself but Apple can definitely replace the SSD.
So basically, if you don’t want to send it to Apple for a repair, that’s fine, but then don’t cry because “My computer is a paperweight”.
for 99% of people yeah, but technically there does appear to be a way around this. Luke Miani just had a vid w/ dosdude where they were able to replace the ssd chips on a mac studio and flash a new bios on them to upgrade the storage to 2tb. involves soldering which is why is said technically, but it seems possible.
That's bad
@@SaurikSI but it kinda feels wrong on Apple side
As soon as the Dell was yanked off the counter by the cable I assumed it would be the Mac! Not a whole lot of editing getting done if the screen had potentially cracked or the USB-C cable broke off. :). Great video!
4:46 he chowed the webcam pov at a different angle so it was dark and not that much exposure was there but for MacBook, it was totally a different angle where the lighting was perfectly in the middle
Honestly, the Mac vs Windows laptop depends a lot of type of workflow. By that i mean that if your work usually involves the same general task, with very minimal or no need for alternative software in the future, then if mac has it and you are already in the ecosystem, the discussion is practically over.
However, when you have a workflow that involves a lot of new tools and experimenting constantly, you'd want that assured compatibility that windows offers, so you don't one day find out it doesn't work on your mac.
That being said, I can't help but notice that you pitch this comparison for editing purposes, but then pivot to analyze stuff that's not really related to that, like the webcam. So you keep alternating between a pro user view and average joe one.
And on that point, i find this comparison to have an Identity crisis, cause you're essentially comparing a device that has both its hardware and software from the same source to another where the OS is from Microsoft but the hardware is from Dell. And then bring up points of optimisation of OS on said device. I get the intention, but at this point you're not really genuinely comparing the devices themselves, but stating the obvious, that something will be more optimised if done by the same people.
In all honesty, i feel this should have been with a Mac OS vs Windows comparison, analyzing the actual systems alone, OR have the Mac go against, at the very least, a Microsoft laptop, to at least have the possibility of comparing from the same starting line (referring to OS and Hardware being handled by same entity).
I usually love your style of focusing on user experience a lot in your videos, but i feel that benefits more phones, where UX is arguably the biggest part of it. Because when it comes to laptops or computers in general, UX takes a step back for anyone who plans to use them for more than just the average office suite apps and net browsing, as at that point it's less about the UX of laptop itself and more about the capabilities of said apps. What i mean is, essentially, that you can't compare laptops in the same way you do phones, simply stating surface level stuff regarding the spec sheet and then just UX. Stuff like thermals, upgradability, none of which were addressed, are important.
Now I don't mean nor want/expect you to go full Linus Tech Tips on analysing individual components. That's not my point. But things like:
-presenting just one benchmark alone in regards to overall performance, when there's cases of some being overly optimised for Intel architecture, therefore may seem unfair to the Mac. (It can even be unfair for windows with an AMD CPU)
- 0 mention of thermals, which is, arguably, one of the most important points for a laptop as that determines whether you'll even be able to use your system regardless of how optimised it is. I think this matters more than how loud or silent it is.
-if we're talking video editing, actual export times
Lack of these in a laptop match-up, even for general users, it makes it seem disingenuous in both directions, and I know you're not that kind of tech reviewer.
Awaiting the next video. Cheers!
You literally wrote nearly a video 🙌
@@pranavagga for a short, most likely
You've echoed my sentiments, i feel like most of these "Tech" youtubers doesn't really understand the technology itself and are good at reviewing spec sheet, adding to above, unlike iOS vs Android, usability matters significantly in personal computing space, for ex: for STEM based applications, Mac OS is practically useless.
All the tech youtubers just try to generalize and measure performance based on creative workloads as if these machines were designed only for creative.
Don't forget that the Arm Architechure and the X86 Architechure are not the the same
Arm = less power consumption & less performance
X86 = More performance & more power consumption
Its this entire video is pretty to sum it up is
Which is better a phone thats on a laptop chassis with the best phone Cpu or a premium laptop
@@alphamind1 i wouldn't say that's bad by design necessarily. Like, I've always seen Arun and people with similar review styles as the 'tech CZcamsr' for the average user' kind of person. Naturally, they'll attract people beyond the 'general user' group as well, that's a given.
It's just that I felt he tried too much to apply the strategy of reviewing one product category to another without really taking into account that they require entirely different standards. In the sense that the average user of a laptop is way more technologically apt, and therefore has expectations of things beyond looking and feeling nice, than the average user for a phone, simply due to the more complex nature of a laptop.
In a more extrapolate sense, it'd be like if JerryRigEverything, who started making videos related to cars here and there would go and test the durability of a screen the car has in the center console, to see how it scratches, for example, cause he does that for phones. It's not as relevant in the grand scheme of things. Or, in the opposite direction, a CZcamsr reviewing a car and not once mentioning fuel consumption, in the same way this video, for some reason, avoided the topic of temperatures and high sustained load.
i think there are some other windows laptop benefits you are forgetting about. To start, the number of options you have when buying a laptop means that, like android, you can get a device better suited for you. Additionally, you don't even have to use Windows on said laptop. Linux can get you that same level of integration that you might find on Mac, but will run faster and look better without needing to use the command line. Also, windows laptops have MUCH better upgradeability/repairability. If you really wanted to, you could buy a framework and swap out every single part, or even just a normal device and upgrade ram and ssd.
I’ve noticed that many windows laptops are going less upgradeable
@@BobRossRightHandwhat do you mean that ipgradeability is the same for Windoes and Mac? You havent been able to upgrade anything on a Mac dince 2017 and I get that it isnt great on newer Windows but you can still get upgradeble and repaireble Windows machines.
Sorry for spelling.
THAT!
But not my Mac I can have windows and Linux all ready to boot whichever one I wish. I can run windows on my Mac, Linux or MacOS. So MacOS is the winner for me
@@user-ec7oe1bl8ymodern macs cannot due this due to the ARM architecture. You can’t run windows natively on ARM. (I know windows for ARM exists but it’s nowhere near the same)
I met this guy on Hamad international airport 😂 i didn't recognize you either until I saw your videos
Great video and I am torn with the same decision. Taking nothing away from the content and the comparisons, but I feel my position is even more confused now Lol.
If I could afford both options, I probably would indulge in both worlds, but I’m edging towards what I’m familiar with, the Windows world, yet again!
Great work guys and a new follower here.
The Dell XPS 15 doesn't represent all Windows laptops as there is a lot, and they can very drastically. That is a great benefit to Windows (and others), you aren't just stuck with three or four choices. Also with the display category what about color?
Bingo
And that the Mac Display is Glossy, which is pretty bad in bright light
funny i went to the store and got my self a legion slim 7i with i7-13700h and a rtx 4070 with 165hz qhd display and i just used it side-side with my brothers mb13 while the trackpad of mb is defintelty unmatched the rest is a solid . like without any specialized optimisation adobe results are good and a full load of sot last about 4 hours is well . i played forza on high settings and managed to get 4 hrs to multimedia could get me somewhere 10-12 hrs. so i think win laptops are good but since we are talking about proffesional video editing and adobe made it apple then Arun is Right here.
@@shaikhiftkhar-ff6mdAdobe is not just about video editing. There are dozens of other softwares they offer in different fields. Mac has an advantage only in video rendering times. Everything else is the same. How is mac going to win in Photoshop and Illustrator? My legion never missed a beat using any Adobe software.
So talk about videos only, not Adobe suite as a whole.
@@epicsaves5644 yeah my point sorry i deviated i mean only video editiing, stuff like blender and unreal are much faster on win
One very important factor for me is upgradeability/repairability. Today's Macs have everything soldered in and paired, even the SSD, which is a component that wears out with use over time. On a Mac you're screwed if the SSD fails, whereas on pretty much every other laptop you can just buy another M.2 SSD and replace it easily by yourself. I want a device that I actually own, not one where every component is soldered and paired, and the manufacturer is actively trying to prevent me from repairing it or doing whatever else I want to do on my own device.
EDIT: This is why Framework's offerings are very appealing to me. If they're available in my region by the time I need my next upgrade, I'm buying one!
Honestly, the number one reason I won’t get a Mac laptop, it’s 2023 and we can do better!
The only thing u can upgrade in most slim sized windows laptops is the ssd
Which you can expand with a thunderbolt ssd on MAC.
When it comes to laptops, battery, performance, not dissipating heat, Mac takes the lead.
Mac trackpad has no competition.
I have a business laptop from dell and M1 MacBook pro.
The comfort of using the mac on my lap and no need to worry about constant charging is unbeatable for me.
@@willy7968 The Mac fanboy everyone
Dude, a lot of Windows laptops are becoming fully-soldered too lol @@iCrackr
This loses the Mac big time. Won't get a Msc unless company provided one.
Oof... that jagged closeup of the screen of the Dell when he typed something into the search bar... then a closeup of a Retina display.
Very well done video. I just bought my first Macbook Pro 14, 18GB, 512GB because my 6 year old Pavilion with 8GB locks up when I edit videos. Thought it was time to time something different.
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@@rere8721no, framework is actually amazing
@@rere8721 probably lmao
I have a framework 13 running ubuntu and it's great!
While it's easy to agree with this video, it still boils down to what a user wants. I can't help but feel this was a battle between Apple and Dell instead of Windows which is a tough one. There are 2-in-1s, ultra portables, gaming machines, desktops, touchscreens too just on the windows side alone and these will make me go Windows every single time.
Keep in mind how overpriced Mac’s are. Macs also have 2 in ones, desktops, etc, but they’re overpriced as hell. Even WHEELS for the desktop are $600 where I live
Soo true!
If you go through all his videos, you'll understand that this man is an Apple's agent. He even argues for dumb iphones,
there are no 2in1 macs. 2in1s are laptops with 360 flip touch screens@@JiicoZ
@@mrrobot56 yes, just take a look at the points he mentions (unboxing, speakers, webcam)
0:24 - You still see his shoulder, But he still did a great, terrific job editing though.
What's the config of the MacBook Air that you used? Which processor does it have? How much RAM? How large is the SSD?
Thanks!
Had to switch to mac for this very reason. It's just that much better when it comes to video editing. I Still use windows and almost exclusively use my macbook pro for editing. For everything else windows will always have my heart. .
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@@TKOB614same lol
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Arun with power brick: "It's like carrying an extra gadget with you!"
Arun a few minutes later: "I'd recommend you get an ergonomic keyboard and mouse"
Also gives a point to the worst feeling keyboard on a laptop🤡
@@noobmaster1231 that part made me justify how decisions are made, still a goodvideo btw
@@CJBorja_157 haha yeahhh.. a $2 keyboard would feel better than that thing tbh😭
He was talking about using the keyboard and mouse when home, wasn't that obvious?
Repairability is a BIG factor not mentioned here, it comes with the OS.
immediately pigeon holed when you buy mac. It's so dumb. Although there isn't much you can do on a windows laptop, but windows still wins overall. I'll take a powerhouse windows pc/laptop that can do everything over a nice sleek, shiny apple laptop that only does a few things really well.
Btw, if you hover your cursor over the maximise button on mac, you can do 50 50 split windows
I was really hoping this video would be about the difference between the OSs since that is the far more deciding factor for user experience
Then, they could've had a 2009 windows machine and iBook to compare the OSes then. That's not the idea of the video.
The sole purpose is what their *markets* offer. Though, they did cover major stuff between the two OSes, so (insert shrug emote).
I don't think a 2009 windows machine with Windows 11 & an iBook compared could have the same experience as the flagship laptops they've compared here.
That shouldn't even be a factor when both machines can run both os's, also this is about laptops
@@whynot7897 Could say the machines aren’t a factor for the same reason. Hopefully he does a follow up on OSs
@OMGanger you can't day that because when it comes to laptops, power efficiency is what makes a laptops good, this is what Apple exceeds at
the title is "Windows vs Mac"@@whynot7897
It is also important to mention that the XPS also has an OLED display variant. I have one and I can say it's absolutely mental.
I fully agree, but that option makes it quite a bit more expensive unfortunately. At that price point you are competing with the MacBook Pro, which also has a stunning XDR display. Also, I find that the OLED drains the battery a bit faster
I have the HP Envy x360 13.3 OLED... It has the exact same resolution as the Mac here, and having used both side-by-side in store before making my purchase, I don't think I can ever go to a non-OLED laptop any more.
The picture quality, the deep blacks, the colour difference is just insane.
@@markmolenaar4479 oled is just oled, with its advantages and drawbacks, but it is not comparable with any screen with backlight... Apple in this case (max) obviously tries to make the image more "contrasty" to make it look better while the screen has still backlight and glooming rtifacts compared to calibrated screens. Still a good screen, but not the best.
yes but its a 400$ option, he wanted to compare at the same price, and with this increase you would have compared to macbook pro, but it has 120hz vrr mini led that can arguabely be better than dell's oled
yes and apple also has the macbook pro m1 pro at the same price as this, which is just better in every way, but he still chose that variant of it. though i do say the oled version of the dell is heeeeeeps more expensive and therefor not really a condender in this comparison
I like the NLP part of the video with "suscribe" at 11:51 xD
I moved to the silver speed switches cherry makes for a keyboard. The level they recognize clicks at is super small and very easy to continue to push down. I was having arthritis like pain using a blue switch with the tactile feedback.
FYI. If you press and hold in the green ‘maximise’ icon on macs you can snap them to half screen on quarters also. You don’t need to adjust manually.
Yeah as a Mac user that was what I was thinking
That's not the same.
Or just use rectangle and snap to your hearts content.
Still not the level of freedom windows offer…i mean its in the name….the level of freedom and ease to play with app windows is staggering
@@neilnair5388 FYI Microsoft patented the window snapping feature, so Mac can't offer it legally without relying on 3rd party devs like Rectangle.
My only problem with these sorts of comparisons is that it doesn't take into account how important something is, for example I wouldn't say that the unboxing experience is nearly as important as the performance of a computer, yet they are both still worth 1 point each. I understand that for the sake of simplicity it's easier to compare both of them, but I don't think that you can say you have a "winner" based on whichever machine has more points.
I am better than Mrwhostheboss, My content is better!🤡🤓🤡🤓
Yeah you inbox it once, and then it’s in the storage or bin. Good to have a nice unboxing experience at the cost but isn’t important. If you’re getting it for work / from work you’ll most likely get it unboxed anyway.
the winner isn't based on the number of points!
@@RonaldoHater777ur not
@@Mrwhosethebosshi Mr
Mac does allow for snapping to half-sized windows through tapping and holding the full screen button, which can also be attached to a keyboard shortcut.
The trackpad and gestures on a Mac are on a level of their own. I thought you would expount a bit on this give it is the game changer in productivity...
I recently bought a MacBook Air M3, but I got to say the main thing I missed from my Surface was trackpad gestures
I have a Mac and came from a Windows machine. One thing I'll say is that for me Windows just makes so much more "sense" in some ways. Like the mechanics for switching chrome windows is so much harder on mac. Or like how Finder doesn't organize ut files symmetrically when ur on the icons setting.
Windows to Mac switcher here and I totally agree with you. Adding to what you said I miss having the taskbar and the ability to peak into minimized applications.
As a Mac user that has used some windows computers i have experienced the same thing nice to know someone sees this.
Nice to see i'm not alone. Mac is infuriatingly difficult to use.
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I feel this is one of those videos which is heavily influenced by arun's preferences. Dell does not represent the windows community and its sad to see such comparison. There are many laptops out there that can easily beat the mac in every category
Completely agree
Never had a personal mac, did for work and after a little a short while got annoyed and installed Windows via bootcamp.
That being said name me one Windows laptop that can compete with the same level of performance, plugged in and not, power efficiency and long battery times.
At the same price range, I don't think there are any computers that beat the mac in "every category." There are always tradeoffs.
As a man working in the tech industry, let me assure you a Mac is better for software development is every way. You could give me $3000, and I’d still buy two Mac’s. Coding on a windows machine is a pain the ass.
@@Nornfangyeah and tbh for a professional workflow its the only laptop with a lot power thats still pleasant to work with. A workstation with windows that matches the benchmarks is just too loud, big and has no battery life
Absolutely AMAZING EDITING , CONTENT, SLIDE MOVING, INTERACTIVE, KEEP EYE CONTACT WITH PICTURE. Thank you, I have learnt a lot from this video
Great video. Please do a windows vs MacBook usage for most work scenarios. I use windows at work but would like to know if a Mac would be better or even equal. I am very new to Mac. I’ve got a M1 air. That would be a great video as no one has covered this topic properly.
To be honest, upgradability and less or no anti-repair mechanism is the best view of Windows side
Not really, I think the best is performance. With that i mean gaming performance. If you want to game, windows is your best choice.
I'm surprised he didn't talk about repairability or upgradability.
@@TDVeldorasame, a big deal for me tbh
@@TDVeldoraYou know why he didnt. Apple is always watching. They'll cut this boy off that payroll if they lost this lmao
@@ThatStepmaniaGuy Being able to repair makes you able to use your device for a longer time, and Apple just wants you to get a new one. That's their way of profit.
The lack of a window tiling manager is one of the only thing I really miss on macOS compared to Windows 11 (which really nails it, especially combined with powertoys)
There are a ton of apps for it. Better Touch Tool is one of them. It also allows you to costumize alot of other things on your Mac.
@@wadravor9jahren748 I am currently using rectangle, but it doesn't play that well with stage manager and multi monitors setups sadly :/
I thought Apple would at least improve SM a bit on macOS 14 but apparently not x)
@@wadravor9jahren748 +1 for BetterTouchTool. One of the best pieces of software ever written. Just the amount of trackpad gestures is reason enough to buy it, everything else is just icing on the cake.
Actually mac has the same or better third party solutions for this issue.
@@andrsz3119That's a stupid argument. If we're going to argue capabilities that will win out with third party software, then Windows absolutely destroys MacOS with its insanely bigger library.
I was aboutta say, the editing is unique, but Josef tried to resemble the traditional style of mrwhosetheboss editing, but it isn't really the same with the Comic Sans
thx for the advice😀
I think that at the end of the day, it depends on the workflow. If I was, for example, a graphic designer that travels a lot or prefers to show results to clients in meetings, I would choose a Mac. But in my case, I'm an industrial automation programmer, I use a lot of VMs and software that only runs on windows, so I don't care too much about color accuracy and prefer performance, storage, if it's upgradeable and I also like gaming.
So both are good if it fits your workflow.
yeah i agree, you could use a vm for your mac to have windows and mac, but if u use windows as your main, its very hard for you to have a macos vm. totaly agree.
Exactly!! Also lots of niche software only has support for windows. Mac is a great os overall though, just not for me.
yes. for the use case in this video it's all about software compatibility, followed by the editors preference for working efficiently
I mean it depends in graphics as well over time...
Final cut definitely works like a beast on the system but I'm a da Vinci resolve user, for me it doesn't give it's best over time.
I think windows is better for graphics designing…
The compatability point is a complete deal breaker for Mac for me. Fun story for a programming exam I had this year one of my classmates who uses Mac couldn't do the assignment that he randomly got because the program didn't work on Mac.
Ios software sucks on too many levels...
@@solsang
its coding exam and it requires simple software it has nothing to do with hardware 😂 Porting to Mac is impossible in many cases because ios is years behind in development
With simple coding Mac is the go to though. Everbody uses it
I had the exact opposite experience. Mac at least runs bash out of the box. You have to fiddle with cygwin or the stupid wsl to get bash on windows. Same thing with C programming. C compilers are just not compatible with windows by default.
@@justjack3075 Actually we had similar issues in uni. Because of how some features were implemented on the macos version of software we had to use bugs were introduced. In the end, they just gave us pre-configured Linux VMs.
my macbook pro with the m1 and 16 gb memory is the most amazing laptop ive ever owned. I create pieces of furniture plans, videos, and photoshop through adobe products and it rarely slows or stutters. And overall media play is great from the display to the speakers. I don't game on it but I have streamed my ps5 quite a lot with great experiences.
They have USB type C adapters that create a MagSafe magnetic connection. They're awesome.
as an editor myself, i feel that there's a HUGE room for improvement, the thing that Is bothering me most are the linear keyframes
its not only that- i dont know whether its on purpose or not but the entire video looks like its made by a little kid! i mean who the heck uses comic sans these days lmao.
Im not an editor at all but I feel the same way, everything about the editing seems clumsily put together, especially the fonts and arrows used in the vid
@@yehonatanaboYes 😂
The editing used to be brilliant. What happened?
@@josephbenjamin2934 the guy they were getting these laptops for is the only one editing the video, he is a beginner so its not the best but I feel its gonna get better with time considering the skill of the other editors
Say you are an apple fanboy without saying you are an apple fanboy
Lol could notice throughout the video. He thought dell has better screen but still gave points to apple just because of numbers. Then dell gave better numbers in benchmark but he thought its a tie.
@@karan-ns8ryThe benchmark results literally showed the Dell losing hard when unplugged, which is the entire point of a laptop.
@@IceBlueLugia if it's for editing, don't bother with a laptop.
Bro I have both but mac is way better
@thecommentology592 lmao, editing, gaming, benchmarks everything is better in pc, you just gotta be dumb in the head to think apple is better. (Fyi I am an animator and semi profesional gamer so)
Downloading rectangle for Mac is a game changer in regards to window management…
first of all does it come with the magsafe cable and adapter come with the macbook because there are gan adapters and magnetic usb cables are available on the market
Compatibility is a major factor, not just in software: As a windows user, I always found it easy to connect my device to beamers, smartboards, various sticks, cables and devices to exchange data with. Whereas with Apple, it's always a gamble and most of the time, I would have to install a specific programme on each device to allow data transfer, have a specific adapter which may not even work and be prepared to not be able to execute the programme. Essentially, Windows and Android can both simulate Apple and work with any device; vice-versa not so much.
In my office we have MacBooks and some power boards, everything seems to work great with which ones they chose, I also have a smart TV at home that supports airplay. What we do run into is that there needs to be usb-c to ethernet adaptors despite us all having 'pro' models. Not sure if it's worth mentioning but we use Chrome :/
There is nothing out there I or my business uses that Mac can’t handle:)
@@MultiTacs what about the 50% of the price you paid being a gift to apple? Imagine a Laptop half the price could have done everything you needed it to do, I use a 700 bucks Gaming Laptop and as long as there is a power outlet (basically everywhere I go, even on the train) I have all the performance in the World thanks to an I7 and an RTX2070 as well as 2 Upgradable SSD slots and 2 Upgradable Ram slots. I have a guy next to me and hes using an M1 Macbook Pro and the only difference is style and mine gets a Numpad and a bigger screen, everything else is just the same, except he cant run games. And I get an ethernet port and an HDMI port, while he needs to borrow my USB C Hub
imagine having to work as the tech support for a companies with printers made from the 2000s and bosses came in with their shiny new Mac and you have to tell them they just aint gonna work lmao.
Mrwhoestheboss, tommyinnit is now gaining on YOU now!
I think if you made the comparison score based rather than win/lose it would be more fair, especially for the categories they were very close at.
Terrible conmparison anyways. Underspecs the XPS. Wants performance but specs the gaming screen rather than the OLED and doesnt go for the Graphics upgrade .. idk
In some areas I hear better things on dell device but give them a draw where as for 1 minor thing he calls the win to Mac. This comparison is sus
Nah, he just doesn't know anything about real computer, lol. His entire life is on phone and small tech
Rephrase. your comment makes absolutely no sense
@@catboy3471 @catboy3471 I didn't even know that he's saying how good Mac is. I'm just mad about how he tries so hard to be relevant in the computer world but doesn't have enough information and good value in his video anymore. He just talks and makes effects but no actual focus on the topic anymore. Not like before. Because he knows people want to hear his voice only, even if it's stupid stuff. His short is mostly like that.
(I don't know why you are defensive about Mac so much LMFAO thats not even my point)
You don’t have to manually make the screen 50% on a Mac, if you hover over the green maximizer on the left hand side, the os will give you an option to either put it to the left side or the right side.
U should go with galaxy book 3 or surface studio 2. Plz make a video.
Hahaha the graphics killed me in this video! The noticeable difference of the usual Arun graphics and the 2D graphics in this was cool.
2:02 Arun… are you ok?
Yes he is totally fine 😂😂
That’s what she said
Trying to get a new laptop and I don't know which is the best...A big fan from Nigeria
My only experience with a mac is the battery expanding pushing off the bottom panel and getting told that will not be covered in the warranty
If you wanted a quality display for the XPS, there's an obvious upgrade to select the 3.5K OLED - which would be both higher res and better contrast.
How much extra?
@@8ball708doesn't matter. Why wouldn't he buy a laptop with an OLED panel. This seems like a set up imo.
@@kiavaxxaskewdon't think it is, it's just the prices are quite inflated in uk and the budget wouldn't allow it, you can get a macbook pro and legion pro 5 for $2000 in us
@@kiavaxxaskewhe literally said the budget was 1600 bucks
@@kiavaxxaskew they are taking into account similar price points. By your logic he should have used the Pro , why even bother with the Air?
i think the list must include repairability, Storage upgrades and longevity.
Yes !
mac wins in longevity, they last forever
The only thing mac is beating in longevity are
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@@Jivy225hahahaha nice joke
Love how on the webcam review for the XPS the light in background is off to the side and almost completely covered by his editor. For the Mac the camera directly facing the light and uncovered by the editor. This allows the camera to take in more light and deliver a better picture. The Mac camera is better, but camera review was bad. I bet the XPS camera looks better if you allow it more light like you did for the Mac.
0:23 Joseph's shoulder was forgotten. Poor shoulder. LOL
Idk how you didn't notice that when editing.
Edit: GUYS OMG ITS A JOKE 😂 Did you think Arun would let the invisibility thing go in his video lmao
A couple things I’ve noticed on the editing
Biggest one is the text for me, mainly the font. It’s now comic sans which is more of a meme font, whereas it used to stand out in the video, be more aesthetically pleasing colour wise and use plain white translucent for the meme text
There’s also a couple of odd transitions like the star one towards the start of the video. There’s also not much visual stuff, it’s more minimalist, removing the counter and timer. When showcasing the editing at around the 14 minute mark, there were some odd choices, the pixelation and an odd clip of a frame at 14:53, just looked a bit strange to me, especially with the gradient on the side
At 0:24 the invisibility thing didn’t work at all imo, it looked a bit clunky, given the screen on the plate shot didn’t match the colour and the shoulder is still visible. Also didn’t really see the point of that. Can also still see Jozef in the back after receiving the mac which looked a bit awkward but that’s not part of the editing
Overall it’s quite nice though, not too different but also refreshing!
Josef's shoulder can still be seen at 0:23.
Well he's obviously going to get better over time, and also he ABSOLUTELY chose comic sans specifically for the memes
Exactly my comment
is this the first time I saw an editing mistake in Arun's vid?? at 0:23 . Okay I completed the video just now, who edited this video, this looks like absolute newbie, the fonts? The colors? The stroke? the transition? What is going on? Where is the original editor???
@@chunkygrumpy7561 yeah that looked a bit clunky, given the screen on the plate shot didn’t match the colour
i am pretty sure all of this is a satire bit guys.
sure let's include unboxing experience category over upgradability
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I love your videos and have been a fan of the Channel for a very long time. I do have one critique...A better comparison would've been Apple MacBook vs Microsoft Surface Laptop where each respective Company is responsible for both Hardware and Software, especially if the build quality and unboxing is some of the deciding factors.
The speaker comparison, IMO, was not a fair one since another youtuber's speaker comparison, Max Tech, had the speakers play music, in which the XPS absolutely smokes the m2 air, but in this case, it was only the voice, and the MaxxAudio application on the XPS would have allowed for the tuning of the speakers, and it may have interfered with the audio test.
9:54 bro was really making an presentation about flat Earth 🌍🌎
The overall video quality is has improved but I still prefer the previous editor over the new one , his way to dropping texts and transitions is way better and the font he uses is really good , i prefer the previous one . That is the production quality which separates you from other youtubers, don't let it vanish
I don’t think that’s going to be the default editing style from now on.
It feels purposely exaggerated (with the, let’s call them pop ups) to remind the viewer that he is editing it.
The focus is on the editor.
In the future they will focus on Aaron and will use less distracting visuals.
With MacOS you can simply long-click on the green dot for full screen mode and then options will appear with which you can adjust the windows
the first scene "starting now" you can still see half of Jozef's shoulder. so whatever choice you made on hardware you should probably put as much focus on actually editing the video
Is Arun going to release a video about how he got AI to edit this video?
Have you considered doing a video looking into different ergonomic keyboards? I already own three of the Logitec one you showed in this video (work office, home office, home desktop) because I fell in love with the first one that I got. Would love your perspective on other options for keyboards (like the split boards), mice, etc!
That’s such a good idea
@2:25. Look at the Mac Book Pro. They have more ports with HDMI and SD slot.
Im trying to get a laptop for me for high school because i have a crappy af laptop so tysm Mrwhostheboss this helped me alot!
Wouldn't be a better comparison against the Surface Laptops like the Surface Studio? We have also a kind of MagSafe and the brick is almost smaller. Also, they don't follow the normal patterns.
Completely agree, plus it would make sense for it to be Microsoft to be the one the laptop to compare
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Exactly my reasoning too. Why choose Dell when Microsoft has their own products that do very well. I use a Surface device and dont see Mac besting it in any category (Was told Final cut pro exports faster though and can't figure out why Adobe hasnt figured this out yet. Maybe Microsoft should just design their own video editor)
Completely agree, I have an older surface but it still runs really well and unlike the MacBook I can detach my keyboard and use a touchscreen + my surface is made out of pure aluminum besides the felt keyboard which feels really nice to touch!
Nah bro, I think the comparison of chargers doesn’t makes sense in the first place, because there isn’t only dell out there, there are so many different options.
My last MacBook was the MacBook Pro 15" 2015 which is still going strong today. The problem with the latest MacBook is the non replaceable SSD, which made me thinking of buying Dell XPS 15 with its dual slot NVME and replaceable RAM. The service manual is also provided by Dell themselves which I think good for the longevity of the product.
Great video btw, but I think repairability is also an important aspect to be covered especially if you plan to use the device for a long time.
Don't forget trying to get a battery from Apple as well it's Like pulling teeth 😅
Yes apple don't want you to improve your MacBook, or even repair it, they are only want you to replace it, with a newer model as they are only interested in your cash.
I got the last one that can be upgraded with SSD/RAM lol
i mean in terms of replaceability framework laptops are probably the best because you can replace everything down to even the motherboard and you can switch out the ports for the ones you want
I was laughing at the fonts and color combo! 😅