Agree, you don't /need/ high end peripherals to play or even be good. I've been nationally ranked in multiple games with a keyboard and mouse from goodwill. That said, some high end peripherals feel MUCH nicer and some people are willing to pay for that experience.
I think that one important thing you missed is the fact that you can use a pc for more than just gaming and I would personally include a cost for an additional pc or cheap laptop with the consoles to make it more realistic.
Great point! I listed it as a PC benefit at 2:58. I’d argue most people who have a gaming pc also have a laptop as well. I know I do! But I could definitely be wrong there.
@@truegamer_007 @JimmyTriesWorld Yeah, jumping in to say I also have a laptop in addition to a Gaming PC. I will always need a reasonably powered laptop for work and classes. I cannot travel with a desktop so for me a laptop is a necessity when a gaming PC is a luxury item.
@@JimmyTriesWorld I think another important point is upgrading. These consoles are only lasting 3 or 4 years before the "pro" versions are coming out, not the full 7 or 8 like they used to. They cost more so, even with trade-ins, you're still paying more if you're staying up to date with your hardware.
I understand why he didn’t include it, but personally, I purchased maybe 3-4 game on xbox since I joined XGP 2 years ago. Before that, it was 20 games minimum, for 45$-90$ each. He also don’t mention that the more hardcore you get, the more chances you have to buy day one, so the cost are virtually the same for consoles and pc. I’ve been playing on pc for 3 years, and most of the AAA title I bought were priced exactly the same at launch. Games sales are more often on pc though, if you wait before buying the game. If you don’t care about playing day one, which is kind of taking for granted in this video, than XGP is the best deal to minimize your gaming cost.
You can connect game pass to pc, pc sales are ridiculous, pc games are cheaper to begin with, more variety of games, but it’s a huge investment to get a pc itself
@@djp-el5tv what do you mean? Gamepass is available on pc because it's literally Microsoft's product and you could can't get halo, forza anywhere else besides Microsoft store.
@@testoyt we have piracy on consoles also BTW. it cost 50RS less than a dollar per game after jailbreaking and you can also revert back whenever you can.
As a casual gamer in terms of amount of games I buy, and owning a PC and Xbox, PC is the way to go imo just for the ability to do a lot more than play games
@@earnistse4899 yea I agree, a decent laptop or any old desktop can handle pretty much any task unless you do a lot of video rendering, and even then, waiting an extra hour or two for a video to render isn’t a big deal for most people
@@spunkysamuel Most people arent gonna want to spend 1.5k+ on gaming bro. Having more than one thing is a luxury, you just dont get it cus ur evidently privileged.
@@kappastar4839 You're not spending 1.5k on gaming. If you are in the position to make a choice like this, than you probably already have a pc that can do things. The argument "pc can do so much more" only applies if you literally don't have a pc
Not sure how this would affect the numbers, but I do think mid-console generations need to be looked at too since it somewhat corresponds with wanting to upgrade your gpu every 4 or 5 years.
Man, my numbers are totally different to yours in terms of game purchasing. I probably buy around 10 PS4 games a year, but almost never for more than £15 each (call it $20). And 20-25 steam games, for maybe £10 max aside from a few specific things. So it's close to £150 on PS4 and £200 on PC, but I'd never pay for extra storage. I tend to play one game solidly and then either I get bored of it or complete it and it goes off my drive. I have ~12 games installed on either platform at any given time, but most of those are casual/party games that I'm unlikely to be willing to wait for when I want to play them. I guess I'm closest to the second profile you suggested, but none of them are particularly close to me. Interesting how peoples' habits differ.
Yeh, I feel like the game price estimates are going to vary wildly from person to person. This might have been more useful without that included, even though it can be a consideration. I purchase most games around the same $20 price range, with the exception of first party Nintendo games. They rarely drop below $35-40, so a $10 pre-order bonus and getting to play the game 1-2 years earlier seems good enough.
Same, I always hear the argument from PC players that console games cost $60 but I almost always buy games used or heavily discounted, for example I got 5 AAA PS4 games for $50 from GameStop
I buy games in CAD money, 10-15 games a year but only 5-10$ a game, that about 3,88-7,44$ in US dollar and 2,9-5,10 pounds. The 45$ price for a game is wayyyyyyyyy of for me and I don’t know anyone that buys every of his game new. I only buy used. Can you get battle field 5+ Minecraft+cod mw1 reamastered+ fifa 20+ rainbow 6 for 20$? Because if I bought the new, it would cost 225$ for me. It OUTLANDISH, I can’t see myself buying games new
@El-ahrairah I think that's a fair point, but I don't know if it's as much of an issue for this console generation. Both consoles are highly backward compatible, and offer a lot of benefits in older games. Also, you can still find some good deals if you shop around. I got a Series X, and so far just bought Watch Dogs: Legion for $30(physical). Other than that I have been playing older games like Forza Horizon 4 and Gears 5 which got patches for the new hardware. So while it's not a totally new game, you can still see the hardware benefits just like after you upgrade your PC.
@@ashwingeorgemathew Yup And the hundreds of thousands of old games and indie games Unlike ps4 where you have to wait like a helpless kid for backwards compatibility or remasters Mods also
In a couple of years you'll see games coming out with a requirement for fast SSDs, but yes, with the demand of storage for consoles, the prices are gonna drop fast.
@Source Dasher I haven't said you should buy a pcie 4.0 either, i just said that he was picking the more expensive ones to make it closer to the internal ones on the Xbox series X and ps5.
@Source Dasher more like $200 for 4X4 drives. Not sure if PCIe 3.0 is compatible with ps4 internal, especially since they haven't enabled it yet. XBox is proprietary so it's fixed pricing. Probably PCIe 4.
I think the exclusive games on PS5 and Xbox series X will only apply against each other in a few years, since both Sony and Microsoft tend to release their respective console exclusive titles on PC regardless. Also PC has emulators so you can play some PS2/Xbox era or older console games on PC if you have it beefed up. Maybe even Xbox one and PS3 games, but I'm not sure about those. And of course, mobile games like Diablo immortal. Yeah! Who needs phones anyway? xD Also I forget to mention this, but PC has waaay more games to chose from, and it's way easier to troubleshoot and fix buggy games, mod them, and do all kinds of other cool stuff. In a way, a lot more features just regarding gaming, and not just the fact that PC is a lot more than just a gaming console.
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Yeah most just say "$500 cheaper than $1000, consoles win". It's not nearly that simple. That's basically just the uninformed way of looking at it. The PC does have its place, I just don't expect 70% of people to flock to it. It's also more than just value as well.
See the PS4 might have lasted 8 years, but don't expect the same for PS5, but tell me one thing how many will upgrade to the pro version in three years of the original PS5?. And even if we upgrade our GPU in three years there will always be a buyer for the old one and we always upgrade to the new one, plus I don't need to pay 250usd for online for gaming in my country for three years. Thats more than half of an new GPU price, even now Valhalla ultimate edition for PS5 costs 109 usd, and a pc version costs 82usd, so more games you buy pc is cheaper.
To me the PC is still the best option as I really like to experience new indie titles that cost way too much on consoles even during sales, also most of these run even on potato PCs while usually gets locked on new console gens. You should also consider accessories costs, I'm still playing games on PC using Xbox 360 controllers and I intend keeping it that way, so I'll be carrying the same controllers for the third gen in a row, that saves A LOT of money! This rule also applies for other accessories like racing wheels for example, there's a bunch of people who still plays new racing games with their old Driving Force GTs or G25s for example while on consoles you would have to get a new one after one or two generations. The free remasters rule used to be something on the current gen but not so much now with the PS5 and Series X, as you would almost always get the remastered versions for free on PC uppon their release or you would automatically sort of get yourself a remaster after an upgrade as you would be able to crank the settings on your old game now that you've got a newer more powerful system. I've been a console player most of my life and entered the PC gaming world by the beginning of the current gen and also grabbed a PS4 to play the exclusives, and man I really miss a lot of QOL features that I have got used to on Steam that the PS4 lacks, it's still a cool system but I'll surely build a new rig for the next gen onwards and it'll be really difficult trying to convince me to go back to consoles. And besides all that, at the moment PCVR is really awesome and IMO way more interesting than every new AAA game that plays the same as the last gen games did but just have a new coat of painting over it, I'm kind of bored of the AAA formula, lack of innovation and inclusion of RPG Mechanics on everything.
@@AurumFaber it’s not cheaper but you can have game pass unlike ps5 so it’s and advantage over that and it makes the Xbox useless because you can play the same games and much more
As someone who plays both some things to consider are: 1. Some of the absolutely ridiculous steam sales on some popular titles. seeing bundles worth $80 go down to $10. 2. When buying additional storage you really don't need to spend that much on an SSD. Yes on paper that SSD is equal to the SSDs of consoles but you can be cheaper NVME SSDs or SATA SSDs which for gaming have a practically unnoticeable performance impact on boot times for half the price. 3. SUBJECTIVE PC has its own exclusives like CSGO as well as having access to some of the exclusive games on Xbox like the Halo series. 4. Keyboard and mouse doesn't need to be that expensive really. That's a good thing about PC that if you don't really care about super nice equipment you can choose to pay less. you can even find mechanical keyboards which are fine to use for under $30 and if you don't want mechanical you can always buy a normal one for under $20. Same goes for a mouse there are plenty of sub $30 mice out there. With a Console,if one breaks you want to buy some extras you have to spend the listed price or find some off-brand controller that often breaks in a year. Then there's the elite/scuf controllers which are massively overpriced imo. High-quality KB&M costs much less than they normally do. Xbox elite is listed at $160 for me and you definitely can get equally nice PC stuff for that money 4. Depending on the games you play and your subjective tastes the PC will have a higher performance ceiling than the consoles assuming you get an RTX 3060. It will likely run most games at a higher FPS which is good for FPS games and will manage 60 FPS on games like cyberpunk if you use features like DLSS which boost FPS with more or less no loos in quality unless you really go out of your way to look for it. Console games are typically better optimised but features like DLSS definitely make up for it.
Ninja download Steam and when you accumulate some retared amount of games let me know if you enjoyed selling your child hood game on pc you keep your childhood memories forever well... unless the developers decide to shut down the surver lol
@@Beshoyyoussef I don't stick to a game more than a year or two. Once I 100% finish a game, I exchange it for a new one. I don't need to keep games collecting dust in the corner just for the sake of " childhood memories ". But that's just me.
@@Beshoyyoussef Yes you can sell a GPU and get a better one, while on console, you don't NEED to sell the hardware because the developers will keep supporting and improving the games till the end of the console cycle. And PC's unfortunately are held back by consoles anyway so you won't see any major advancement in graphics until the next console generation. I was a hardcore PC Gamer too but I realised it's not worth the hassle. Also, when you sell your GPU, what if the motherboard doesn't support it ?? And what if it's bottlenecked by the CPU ?? You see, it's a never ending cycle of buying new parts every 2-3 years, which just isn't worth it to me.
I still have the Samsung Odyssey Plus I got 2 years ago and basically nothing is a real upgrade from it. It has a 90hz OLED display with the exact same resolution. Plus it also is inside out tracking thanks to being windows mixed reality. Downside is having to trick games its a rift to run some games. Basically put the Index for 4 times to price I paid is only moderately better with a higher resolution, 20 degrees bigger FOV (though that also means resolution look worse), and better controllers. Though I can always trick my headset to use the index controls with a bit of effort but I only paid $200 for my headset so it's not a good deal. Plus the Samsung has a special filter the Index lacks making the screen door effect less noticeable and it's OLED so darks are better. It's better but just not worth it.
@@Skylancer727 as an OG Oddyssey owner that got one a few months after launch I totally agree with you! The tracking might not be perfect but it's something I can live with considering the price I've payed and that it was the better option at the time of the purchase! At my country we don't have any VR HMD beeing sold locally, so they are all imports and at the time the Oculus Rift was twice the price and the Vive was almost 4x more expensive, so yeah the Oddyssey was the best in specs and price. I don't like the outside in setup of the lighthouse systems either. I don't feel like getting anything else unless there's something like a new Quest like device that is SteamVR branded LOL the Quest sounds awesome in theory then you realize you would have to repurchase your games library to play on the go, and that's the part where it stops looking like a great deal to me LOL
There's also some additional stuff to factor in, the free ps plus games are getting really good, especially in March of 2021, I have over 150 games on the PS5/PS4 but only maybe 30 were purchased, and even then many of them were on steep sales as there's regular sales on games anywhere from 30-70% on the PlayStation store, some new and quite a lot of 1-2 year old games.
Should also take into consideration, given pc optimization and constant release of new products, so a 7 year old pc can't play games like their console equivalent. No matter what you build , a pc can't last for 5 years without upgrade.
@@somnia3423 then mods for old games instead of remasters or backwards compatibility 🤮🤮 PCs are the best bruh $1200 can get you a 3070 and ryzen 3600x with 16gb-3600 RAM + 512GB NVME That would absolutely smoke any console or pro console for the next 7 yrs
@@somnia3423 yup... Ps2 games too... No need to wait for sony to FEEL like it before you enjoy that nostalgia... 30 series graphics cards can run any emulation software at ULTRA settings and 1440p - 100+ fps Unless the user doesn't know what he's doing
you are totally underestimating the value of Gamepass. The number of games I need to buy is getting lower and lower. Gamepass makes a big difference. You get AAA games on day 1 of their launches.
@@kevinragsdale6256 it's all EA games period, all Bethesda games, and all Microsoft exclusives. That's way more substantial than most let it on. Personally can't use it as my Microsoft account is screwy but still, it is a fantastic deal.
@@kevinragsdale6256 no all their first party games like hellblade 2, Halo infinite, psychonauts, Crossfire x, The medium, etc are all coming their day one. Even in their words generations Xbox one they still had some good games. So don't doubt game pass, everybody knows it's a good deal
To keep it short: You want to have a great experience without breaking the bank, go for console. They are great. Have a bit more money to expend down the run or already have the money? Go for PC. Less input lag, great PC aim, no online pay. And keybinds/mousebinds. You don't have to buy a scuff controller that is like 150 bucks, which only has 4 extra binds. While a mouse like a Logitech g502, has like idk, 9 buttons you can program ( which I do indeed use. Very handy)
Is it confirmed ps5/Xbox games will work on a HDD, I imagine there would be some issues with online games if you join the lobby 60seconds later because you're on a hdd
@@yahyasajid5113 you can transfer those just to keep those locally(for ps5 games this feature will come later), but you can’t play current gen games out of hdd. You can play last gen games from external drives, though
Recently I've seen news that apparently on PS5 you can only have PS4 games on HDD. PS5 games must be always on the internal drive, and you can't even STORE them on the external drive. I'm not sure whether it's intended or a bug, but you should keep in mind that Sony's console might not offer such functionality.
@@Vengir they say this would be available in the future. They stripped many other features they claimed will be there. Seems that ps5 firmware wasn’t ready for the launch .
Switched from Xbox one x to a PC after using Xbox my whole life the only thing I miss is sitting on the couch and playing but I don’t have to pay for online so it’s so much better and I love IT
I get the point of this video for a casual gamer I still think Pc is better because use components can be a lot cheaper and stand up with the new consoles and on the PC you could add storage a lot easier with hard drives our. nvm SSDs for a little bit slower SATA SSDs and at the end of a generation with the PC you can upgrade it to save some money by keeping the power supply case and storage
I think that's a tough one. It's a bit over $100 if you want it to be as fast or faster than the series x ssd which apparently goes up to 2.4 gb/s. The ps5 is much faster though so it would likely be more expensive there. Not sure how much more but in the future he could maybe have two different options there considering that the series x and ps5 had different specs and the pc was trying to get something equivalent.
I think the better experiment would be over multiple console generations and keeping the pc specs roughly the same as the console generation you are on.
Just going to say the only thing messing up your estimates/assumptions is game pass So people should take this with a grain of salt otherwise this is pretty accurate
Something worth noting here, is its not just about the cost. I have a very capable gaming PC and the overhead for running games is huge. Console does not have that problem, and now 4k 60fps is the standard there. To get a comparable pc to do the same thing costs WAY more than your estimate. Equivalent hardware capabilities does not equal 4k 60fps on either platform.
If you have a pc for 7 years, you will want to upkeep it so you will upgrade overtime. That is an extra 1000+ dollars over a budget. With an Xbox or ps5, you usually spend around 500 dollars on games instead of up keeping the system
Ok bro good job for sharing this video😍 but I don't know how much does a keyboard and a mouse costs in your country but in my country a Normal mouse with $3 and a Normal keyboard with $6 or 10 dollars and games for PCs costs 2 or 4 dollars and yes you can download games for free in PCs which means you will save alot .. and BTW I don't have a PC 😁
Good video overall, but a 980 Evo is overkill and wouldn’t benefit on the b450 mobo. So it would be more cost efficient to go with a 970 Evo or for a slight loss in read and write times go for a 2.5” ssd, 860 Evo, because they are fast and much cheaper. Which that saved cost can now go to a better power supply for the 3060/3060 ti!
I bought a 2500 dollar tower and I haven't touched it since I got the series x. Basically dont let people peer pressure you into gaming. Game where you want to game. I love the function from going to gaming to switching to a movie on my couch then the traditional route of sitting on a chair.
@@goldensilverstar unfortunately it sits there. I'm thinking when I get a vr set I'll probably touch it again. When something comes up and I need it for work or something I'll use it. I bought the thing and the people who wanted me to get it dont really play with me. Im pretty bad at mk but I only wanna play games with others. I'd rather play RPGs on the couch on a controller that I'm more comfortable.
It's also worth noting that although the upfront cost is significant for PC gamers, future upgrades are cheaper than the initial cost. The case, storage, PSU, etc. can be kept while only upgrading the GPU (and sometimes CPU/mobo). At most, the result is paying an extra ~$300-600 for GPU upgrade every generation to keep up with consoles assuming you're not buying top of the line. Plus, a CPU upgrade isn't always necessary as it doesn't always have as big of an impact on gaming as GPUs do.
By using a console you don't need to upgrade anything. You are sure that all games during the lifespan for that console will run on it. Also no problems with drivers and OS upgrades/patches etc.
@@Makull1971 not true, you need to upgrade consoles at the end of the generation cycle (ie upgrading to PS5 from PS4). And as far as games are concerned they're not always backwards compatible from the previous generation.
@@Makull1971 "by using a console you dont need to upgrade anything" do you mean you *cant* upgrade anything? I dont think many people still use their ps3 or ps2 to play the latest graphic intensive games, and if you are, a ps3 isn't gonna have the same graphical power as a $1000 pc
What you have not considered is that people will trade physical disk. PSN plus membership gives 2 games every month and Xbox games pass gives 100's of free games. If you buy in offer correctly PS plus membership is utterly cheap. The same goes for Xbox membership. PS5 would be Jail break at some point. Also resale value. PC has absolutely abysmal resale value for components courtesy of miners. The 499$ PS5 you bought if it works properly can fetch you 100-150$ after 5-6 years. That's insane. Try selling rtx 3060ti for 100$ in 2026.
I think your numbers were pretty good on paper, but I notice that A LOT (80%) of games that I have on PS4 were either really cheap on PSN (less than 15 bucks) , traded with someone for another game or bought 2nd hand for less than 35 bucks. The ONLY game I ever bought on Day 1 was TLOU2 for 60 bucks in my whole console lifecycle.
In my place an average keyboard and mouse costs less than half the price of a dual sense. And a high quality keyboard can be bought at roughly half the price. There's also the fact that most people I know only do a few upgrades to their pc every gen. Like get a new processor and GPU and maybe add an extra ram stick. I already have a pc that'll last me another 3-4 years and I'm hoping to get a ps5 next year when the price drops a little and it's available.
PC has way more use than just gaming. So usually how I compare price for my pc and consoles:- Say I have to buy a normal computer, so I go to pcpartpicker and make a normal computer note down the price(usually around $500)..upgrade it with slightly better CPU, add a GPU and extra RAM if needed and note down the price again(around $300) Then I find the difference of the two prices to find out how much I am spending on the "gaming" side of my PC
Just a couple of thoughts: - Price for added storage for PS5 and PC is likely to decrease substantially over time, whereas for XBox it will have a more rigid price for longer - I know it's kind of a cheat, but a person buying a console is okay with it for several years, whereas a person spending 1k (or more) for a custom PC is much more likely to upgrade this component or that component over time. This means that the hardware cost is not just the initial one. With that said, PS4 Pro and XBox One X showed that there can be mid-generation upgrades for hardware, so that kind of messes up everything anyway
Let's think about it like this. For the average gamer who is on budget. Get a console. If you have a budget over 1000 dollars and are prepared to spend that, buy a pc because they are truly worth the experience. It is not really cheaper than a console, but the performance, quality of the games, settings you can activate and more are truly breathtaking. The mods you can install like shaders on minecraft for example or natural visions for gta make games look absurd. When your purchasing components for a pc, be smart about it and pay the most money for what you need. And in the end it will be a truly amazing time and you won't regret it.
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I think a PC is the best option in the long run. That's because most people have a PC, and Steam got many cheap games that can be played on even low spec PC. Steam also have a pretty great return policy. It also got a good variety of games. And most games will most likely be playable with better graphics, if you buy a better PC later. I think Nintendo Switch and especially Switch Lite is also good as a cheap choice, if you stay away from their exclusives (easier said than done). Got lots of Indie games and some AAA titles, but I wouldn't recommend it if you prefer either racing games or FPS games. Xbox Series S. Cheaper than Series X and PS5, if you don't play games that require much diskspace and don't care need the better graphics you get from Series X and PS5. Plus Xbox Game Pass is still deal and you can find many games there, that don't require much discspace.
Good review, but I think you're missing how developers optimizing for consoles extends their lifespan. Because each ps5 or xbox has the same hardware, developers can optimize games to still run well on that exact hardware for years down the line. If you bought that comparable pc today, in five or six years it won't run games well, and it probably would need upgrades along the way. The performance advantage you get in turn is that the pc will always have the potential for greater performance, if you have the $
My PC is 5 years old and I have zero struggles. What you mean by optimizing is mostly reduced settings, which is something you can always do on pc. Instead of ultra im playing medium in new games now and still get 60 fps minimum without issues.
You should revisit this topic. Xbox ultimate pass is $17 a month times 12= $204 per year. X7=$1450 alone. Add console and controller 2k before buying any games. I have a rough estimate at $3500 for xbox x over 7 years, $3100 for ps5 over 7 years.
@@sawyiier4870 nah Sell your old one and add $100 to buy a new one And don't forget that a 3060ti that costs $400 is already 30% faster than a PC when you add all the PS PLUS + $70 games And we've not even mentioned DLSS 2.0
If you're really cheap on PC you can just download the epic launcher and then you can get free games each week. Humble bundle is also a cheap-ish option for getting a lot of games to play (assuming you like the selection). I think you can also use Xcloud and PSNow on a PC if you want to play exclusives, although streaming is never as good. PSNow is also basically gamepass on PS4/5 btw, it's not just the streaming service that most people think it is.
something else to consider for the pc. If you already own a pc, you dont have to buy a complete new one, you can just upgrade the old one. For example, i have used the gtx 1070 graphics card during the last gen. Now i am upgrading it to the rtx 3070 and i am ready to go. Ok, it is nearly impossible to ad that into an statistic like that, but that is what i like about pc. You have the freedom to choose your Hardware and exchange whatever you want.
5:40 “for when stuff eventually breaks” lmao I’m still using my factory Xbox one controller I got with the console 7 years ago. Xbox one, personally, has been the single most reliable piece of hardware I’ve owned
PC does more than gaming. You can use it basically for anything. From online schooling to video editing. Adding those extras makes PC much better choice and way cheaper. Plus it’s upgradable. You choose what settings you gonna play a game with what specs. I’m console the corporate is telling you in which settings you’re allowed to play and on which console specs. For all those reasons I can’t see my picture playing on console. People are different and fir many consoles make more sense. I’m ok with it. If you’re happy on console guys rock on. Enjoy it. There’s no wright or wrong. Different people have different needs and make different choices. I’m not here to bash anyone but just to give my point of view. Peace console players.
PC does tend to be more expensive up front, but long term I think the value proposition is far superior to consoles particularly if you know what you're doing and set yourself up for a good upgrade path. It certainly does take more work than a console though, which usually is basically plug and play. Some other things to consider regarding PC: Incremental upgrades extend the viability of the system far longer than a console at a fraction of the price depending on just how much you're willing to splurge on specific parts. Now it is true that individual PC parts can be more expensive than entire consoles, but the savings come in when you consider that you can keep your mouse and keyboard and all your previous games with PC upgrades. Unless a console manufacturer opts to include backwards compatibility, which Nintendo and Sony don't seem inclined to do, you're left with three choices. Keep your old console to play the older games, leave those games behind, or be prepared to buy them again on the new console if they get ports or "remasters." If you're really casual I can see why you'd prefer a console, but if you're an enthusiast and you're willing to do just a little extra work I feel you will get a much better experience from the PC platform.
A few things I'd like to add: The 980 Pro SSD is unnecessary and won't give any additional benefit, and the $50 wifi adapter is not needed as if your gaming you most definitely won't be using wifi (at least if you want to have a good experience) I'd personally cut the ssd to a more reasonable $130 which still gives you a 1TB NVME drive with insanely fast speeds, just not one that is overpriced like the one from Samsung. $1000 for the computer would be more reasonable. And since you chose Logitech for your mice and keyboard, there is no need to factor in price to replace them, as Logitech peripherals don't break (Trust me, I've used Logitech my entire life, these things usually last 20+ *years* before they break)
With the scalpers feccing hoarding every single console/graphics cards, and reselling them for like triple the actual price. It’s probably a cheaper to build PC with a 2080 instead of a 3000 series. If we’re not talking the scalpers, PC is mostly like the most expensive way to run properly. PC's are very expensive to build properly with modern specs, it’s 100% worth buying that bullet.
"Its a great time to be a gamer, everybody gets something..." Not really since everything is out of stock. 😂 Its actually very easy to decide. Console : 500$ 1 time for the next 6 years + another 500-600$ if you buy a new 4k Tv/Monitor. Pc : atleast 1500$ + accessories for a good mid range tower ( not 4K capable ) + another 150-500 if you need a monitor. You also gonna invest overtime for new Ram,Processor,Video card... In 6 years time that Pc gonna cost you minimum 2000$ and you still gonna have all the Windows,Nvidia driver problems,crashes,incompatibility issues... On the other hand the console ( soon as they all patched ) are plug,install and play. I was a Pc player til now. Console it is from now on. The quality for price is unbeatable.
@Chris67 I dont know if you know the youtuber/pc builder JayzTwoCents ? According to him ( he tried to build a console killer cheap as possible ) the lowest he could go without monitor was 1300$ . The best budget 4K monitor is around 400$. Thats already 1700$. And when im talking about native 4K im not talking about 4K on medium/low settings... Im talking Native 4K at minimum 60fps at high/ultra settings. For that my friend ( according to professional Pc builders ) you need atleast a 2080ti. Thats not 400$... Cyberpunk 2077 system requirements for 2160p gaming : rtx2080super or rtx3070 with i7. That 2 components cost more than 3 consoles.
I have both console and PC. If you’re looking just to game and nothing else I would invest in a console. Pc is amazing for sure but if you’re just gaming and not using it for work, school, etc.. and have a laptop for that stuff it’s a lot of money to maintain just for a hobby to spend X amount of hours on gaming but hey man PCs are great in their own way as well just be ready to spend a bit more if you want a Good pc gaming experience
I'll be honest, I was ready to write this video as a (PRO/in defense of) PC video but it turned out to be pretty decent. Classifying gamer in ways other that PC/Console was refreshing and the spreadsheet was actual helpful breakdown. Definitely consider myself frugal though. 90% of my game library comes from PS+, GwG, and humble bundles the next 9% under $10
This is anecdotal obviously, but my experience with reliability heavily favors PC. Went through 2 Xbox 360s during that generation and 2 Xbox Ones. The 360s had RRODs and the One's had wifi board issues. Idk what's going on with Xbox quality control but its trash.
Hmmm.. Look my dude I really appreciate this video but I need more details about: I need a full comparison between Xbox / Playstation / pc On the amount and quality of games available / the exclusives / the cost of memberships the deals and offers / the backward compatibility / the free games.. The platform as a whole. Lastly please talk about cross play.. I really hate the fact that it's a major factor that after comparing the fu#k out of xbox x / ps5 / pc I still have to choose what my friends are choosing.. I heard that cross play got some hope with next generation consoles. Last concern about pc is that it's a solo experience I mean it's looks difficult to play with friends locally or with your significant other or watching movies.. How do pc users deal with it? Maybe a second monitor / tv is the solution? I will sub and ring the bell incase you replied with a video but I'll gladly take a written reply because my concerns are too much lol (English isn't my first language)
I definitely feel (especially if you get a good keyboard, even for just $80) that a keyboard and mouse can definitely outlive a standard controller because they have less moving parts. That being said I also think most people would buy a controller for their pc anyways but that could be a $20 360 controller or a modern $60 controller. I understand why you didn't add them into the analysis though because you could keep nitpicking but I do think that it's sort of unfair to assume that a controller will last as long as a keyboard and mouse.
Unless maybe I zoned out and missed it I do think you missed one big savings factor of a PC. When a new console generation comes out if you want to upgrade you have to buy an entire new device. However with a PC you can slowly update your hardware over time to keep up with modeern games. Instead of needing to buy a whole knew thing all at once, you can buy a couple smaller scale upgrades over a number of years.
This was a good attempt at explaining the overall price difference that consoles and PCs are gonna have in the 7 year period. And I do agree with the overall sentiment that down the line, PC will eventually become more cheaper to sustain, although I do still have some doubts about that. But I think this video missed out on some important points. The first is the primary use of digital media on PC compared to the use both physical and digital media on consoles, and that opens up a lot of cost cutting opportunities as now you can buy, sell, resell, rent, lend, etc. all of your games if you want to. There are also sales that go live regularly on both physical and digital games as well as the option for subscription services. So, if utilized properly then console gaming can end up being much cheaper when it comes to buying games. The second thing I noticed was storage, why do console gamers NEED external storage as well as additional storage? Makes no sense. Honestly, you can go an entire generation with a console without ever having to expand your storage. Yes it is a little tedious of having to keep downloading games, but to me personally it's a better trade off than having to shell out a $100-200 on storage. However that is not the case for PC gaming cuz down the line, a gaming PC will definitely need more storage cuz even if you can download and redownload games, there are gonna be other things on your storage that you cannot replace. You can also share the cost of online play with another person and get all the "free" monthly games.
Games are a bit cheaper on PC than consoles and even more so compared to the next gen console game prices. Plus, you can’t upgrade consoles halfway through unlike a pc where you can just swap things. Downside though are the exclusives. Non existent on PC.
What people don't seem to understand is that consoles are cheap in the now $500 might not seem like that much In the Heat of the Moment with the amount of money you're going to have to invest in it and I do mean have to, to be able to experiences certain features like online games upped price and (this is more of a PlayStation thing) next-gen graphic and performance upgrade why should you have to pay just to experience the features and performance of the hardware you already paid for
While owning one of these three is cost the same in 5 years, one thing to point out is buying new physical games on consoles you can resell after you are done playing. Not on pc because most games today are digital games, so you can't resell the games.
One thing people barely bring up when debating pc vs consoles is the fact that not only can you buy used console games, but also sell them when you're done playing them. This can save a lot of money in the long run. Buying everything digitally means once your money is spent, you can't win some of that money back ever. This can only be done on consoles.
Best case scenario is the equivalent graphics card to the consoles is an RTX 3080. It will perform worse than the PS5 in 2027 but better for the first few years. But there's a fair to good chance that poor optimisation will mean even a top of the line PC built today will need a complete refresh in 3 years to compete with consoles. If you don't believe me then why aren't you still running an Nvidia 760 as your main gaming system? High end gaming PCs are expensive. They just are.
80$ to replace mouse and keyboard.
Me stares over at $80 mouse and $150 mechanical board
stares at 25$ mechanical keyboard and 15$ mouse
stares at a $20 mouse and $60 mechanical keyboard - exactly matching the estimated amount of $80 :P
Matt Gibbs how u soo dumb bro, a 20 dollar mouse and 25 bucks keyboard is all you need
Agree, you don't /need/ high end peripherals to play or even be good. I've been nationally ranked in multiple games with a keyboard and mouse from goodwill. That said, some high end peripherals feel MUCH nicer and some people are willing to pay for that experience.
@@meikgeik true but make do with what u got
I think that one important thing you missed is the fact that you can use a pc for more than just gaming and I would personally include a cost for an additional pc or cheap laptop with the consoles to make it more realistic.
Great point! I listed it as a PC benefit at 2:58. I’d argue most people who have a gaming pc also have a laptop as well. I know I do! But I could definitely be wrong there.
@@JimmyTriesWorld Yep also have a laptop
@@truegamer_007 @JimmyTriesWorld Yeah, jumping in to say I also have a laptop in addition to a Gaming PC. I will always need a reasonably powered laptop for work and classes. I cannot travel with a desktop so for me a laptop is a necessity when a gaming PC is a luxury item.
@@JimmyTriesWorld I think another important point is upgrading.
These consoles are only lasting 3 or 4 years before the "pro" versions are coming out, not the full 7 or 8 like they used to. They cost more so, even with trade-ins, you're still paying more if you're staying up to date with your hardware.
I don’t see a point in consoles when you have a ok enough PC
Xbox game pass ultimate: *Let me introduce myself*
Yep and EA play is coming to pc on game pass too
I understand why he didn’t include it, but personally, I purchased maybe 3-4 game on xbox since I joined XGP 2 years ago. Before that, it was 20 games minimum, for 45$-90$ each. He also don’t mention that the more hardcore you get, the more chances you have to buy day one, so the cost are virtually the same for consoles and pc. I’ve been playing on pc for 3 years, and most of the AAA title I bought were priced exactly the same at launch. Games sales are more often on pc though, if you wait before buying the game.
If you don’t care about playing day one, which is kind of taking for granted in this video, than XGP is the best deal to minimize your gaming cost.
You can connect game pass to pc, pc sales are ridiculous, pc games are cheaper to begin with, more variety of games, but it’s a huge investment to get a pc itself
@@djp-el5tv what do you mean? Gamepass is available on pc because it's literally Microsoft's product and you could can't get halo, forza anywhere else besides Microsoft store.
$15 USD mo/ equals $180 a year equals $900 for 5 years or $1260 for 7 years. Thats 21 Full priced games or 60+ "Hits" you actually own a license to
Truly, I only have one option: cry with my wallet because everything has exclusive titles that I want to play.
Just pick one at random
Yup it sucks
Who the freak plays exclusives
xbox dosen't have exclusives
everything that it has on the xbox you can play on pc
Honestly I think I am getting a pc the only reason I want a ps5 for Spider-Man miles morales
I know I'm getting a pc but I'll still watch
Have fun spending 2k on a PC that gets outperformed by a 400 Dollar Machine
@@gracehunter1103 Watch the video
@@gracehunter1103 a 2k pc nowadays has a 3080 so no... it definitely outperforms consoles
@@gracehunter1103 bro there are 500$ PCs that are great, maybe watch some more budget pc vids instead of the rtx 3090 PCs professional you tubers have
Grace Hunter you probably don’t know a single thing about a computer...
You literally read my mind, Thank you so much. This Guy deserves MKBHD type hype.
piracy: let me introduce myself
Viruses lemme introduce myself
Im a man of wealth and taste
@@mattthemightymeme knowing what you're doing: let me introduce myself
That's what I was thinking about... The game pricing on PC would drop dramatically and well... If you know what you're doing, you'd be saving a kidney
@@testoyt we have piracy on consoles also BTW. it cost 50RS less than a dollar per game after jailbreaking and you can also revert back whenever you can.
well i am hybrid because you can sail all the seas on a pc
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Loool
Yeah, like everyone seems to forget that.
As a casual gamer in terms of amount of games I buy, and owning a PC and Xbox, PC is the way to go imo just for the ability to do a lot more than play games
The best way to go in terms of cost , but series x , and a nice laptop that can get work done , cheaper than buying a big powerful pc
@@earnistse4899 yea I agree, a decent laptop or any old desktop can handle pretty much any task unless you do a lot of video rendering, and even then, waiting an extra hour or two for a video to render isn’t a big deal for most people
People act like you can only get one of these things
@@spunkysamuel Most people arent gonna want to spend 1.5k+ on gaming bro. Having more than one thing is a luxury, you just dont get it cus ur evidently privileged.
@@kappastar4839 You're not spending 1.5k on gaming. If you are in the position to make a choice like this, than you probably already have a pc that can do things. The argument "pc can do so much more" only applies if you literally don't have a pc
Not sure how this would affect the numbers, but I do think mid-console generations need to be looked at too since it somewhat corresponds with wanting to upgrade your gpu every 4 or 5 years.
yea but it's optional.. all games r still playable on base model unlike pc
“$80 for a new mouse and keyboard”
Me with my $20 mouse and keyboard set I’ve had for years: 👀
called me out
Man, my numbers are totally different to yours in terms of game purchasing. I probably buy around 10 PS4 games a year, but almost never for more than £15 each (call it $20). And 20-25 steam games, for maybe £10 max aside from a few specific things. So it's close to £150 on PS4 and £200 on PC, but I'd never pay for extra storage. I tend to play one game solidly and then either I get bored of it or complete it and it goes off my drive. I have ~12 games installed on either platform at any given time, but most of those are casual/party games that I'm unlikely to be willing to wait for when I want to play them.
I guess I'm closest to the second profile you suggested, but none of them are particularly close to me. Interesting how peoples' habits differ.
Yeh, I feel like the game price estimates are going to vary wildly from person to person. This might have been more useful without that included, even though it can be a consideration. I purchase most games around the same $20 price range, with the exception of first party Nintendo games. They rarely drop below $35-40, so a $10 pre-order bonus and getting to play the game 1-2 years earlier seems good enough.
Same, I always hear the argument from PC players that console games cost $60 but I almost always buy games used or heavily discounted, for example I got 5 AAA PS4 games for $50 from GameStop
I buy games in CAD money, 10-15 games a year but only 5-10$ a game, that about 3,88-7,44$ in US dollar and 2,9-5,10 pounds. The 45$ price for a game is wayyyyyyyyy of for me and I don’t know anyone that buys every of his game new. I only buy used. Can you get battle field 5+ Minecraft+cod mw1 reamastered+ fifa 20+ rainbow 6 for 20$? Because if I bought the new, it would cost 225$ for me. It OUTLANDISH, I can’t see myself buying games new
@El-ahrairah I think that's a fair point, but I don't know if it's as much of an issue for this console generation. Both consoles are highly backward compatible, and offer a lot of benefits in older games. Also, you can still find some good deals if you shop around. I got a Series X, and so far just bought Watch Dogs: Legion for $30(physical). Other than that I have been playing older games like Forza Horizon 4 and Gears 5 which got patches for the new hardware. So while it's not a totally new game, you can still see the hardware benefits just like after you upgrade your PC.
You pay full price, on steam-- for PC games?!?!? Bwaaahahahaha!! What a moron.
It solidified my decision on buying a pc
Build one, it works out cheaper and more reliable
@@ashwingeorgemathew
Yup
And the hundreds of thousands of old games and indie games
Unlike ps4 where you have to wait like a helpless kid for backwards compatibility or remasters
Mods also
Same g
Good luck building one for under the cost of a PS5 or a Series X. The GPU alone (RTX 2060 super) will run you $400 minimum
@@charleshot25 then over the space of 5 years... Both the ps5 and a equally powerful $1100 PC would cost the same amount of money to own
230$ for a TB ssd nvme? They are hard dropping in price (PC)
You could take out half
In a couple of years you'll see games coming out with a requirement for fast SSDs, but yes, with the demand of storage for consoles, the prices are gonna drop fast.
the reason for the high price is that he is picking PCIe 4.0 m.2 instead of cheap and slow sata ssds
@Source Dasher i didn't say that
@Source Dasher I haven't said you should buy a pcie 4.0 either, i just said that he was picking the more expensive ones to make it closer to the internal ones on the Xbox series X and ps5.
@Source Dasher more like $200 for 4X4 drives. Not sure if PCIe 3.0 is compatible with ps4 internal, especially since they haven't enabled it yet. XBox is proprietary so it's fixed pricing. Probably PCIe 4.
I think the exclusive games on PS5 and Xbox series X will only apply against each other in a few years, since both Sony and Microsoft tend to release their respective console exclusive titles on PC regardless. Also PC has emulators so you can play some PS2/Xbox era or older console games on PC if you have it beefed up. Maybe even Xbox one and PS3 games, but I'm not sure about those. And of course, mobile games like Diablo immortal. Yeah! Who needs phones anyway? xD
Also I forget to mention this, but PC has waaay more games to chose from, and it's way easier to troubleshoot and fix buggy games, mod them, and do all kinds of other cool stuff. In a way, a lot more features just regarding gaming, and not just the fact that PC is a lot more than just a gaming console.
this channel deserves way more attention, these are really high quality videos, i turn adblock off for these videos so the creator gets more money for more videos.
keep up the great videos
That was one of the best takes on consoles/pc I have seen on youtube,I hope more people can watch this video.
Yeah most just say "$500 cheaper than $1000, consoles win". It's not nearly that simple. That's basically just the uninformed way of looking at it. The PC does have its place, I just don't expect 70% of people to flock to it. It's also more than just value as well.
You’re off. No one keeps the same video card for 7 years.
Yeah, you'll want at least one upgrade in that time
i found out this is not true at all. I know someone who is using a GT 720 still
@@blank3406 I'm using a 610
See the PS4 might have lasted 8 years, but don't expect the same for PS5, but tell me one thing how many will upgrade to the pro version in three years of the original PS5?. And even if we upgrade our GPU in three years there will always be a buyer for the old one and we always upgrade to the new one, plus I don't need to pay 250usd for online for gaming in my country for three years. Thats more than half of an new GPU price, even now Valhalla ultimate edition for PS5 costs 109 usd, and a pc version costs 82usd, so more games you buy pc is cheaper.
My combo would probably be a ps5 and pc. Ps for the exclusives and i can play both xbox games and do my work on pc
To me the PC is still the best option as I really like to experience new indie titles that cost way too much on consoles even during sales, also most of these run even on potato PCs while usually gets locked on new console gens.
You should also consider accessories costs, I'm still playing games on PC using Xbox 360 controllers and I intend keeping it that way, so I'll be carrying the same controllers for the third gen in a row, that saves A LOT of money! This rule also applies for other accessories like racing wheels for example, there's a bunch of people who still plays new racing games with their old Driving Force GTs or G25s for example while on consoles you would have to get a new one after one or two generations.
The free remasters rule used to be something on the current gen but not so much now with the PS5 and Series X, as you would almost always get the remastered versions for free on PC uppon their release or you would automatically sort of get yourself a remaster after an upgrade as you would be able to crank the settings on your old game now that you've got a newer more powerful system.
I've been a console player most of my life and entered the PC gaming world by the beginning of the current gen and also grabbed a PS4 to play the exclusives, and man I really miss a lot of QOL features that I have got used to on Steam that the PS4 lacks, it's still a cool system but I'll surely build a new rig for the next gen onwards and it'll be really difficult trying to convince me to go back to consoles.
And besides all that, at the moment PCVR is really awesome and IMO way more interesting than every new AAA game that plays the same as the last gen games did but just have a new coat of painting over it, I'm kind of bored of the AAA formula, lack of innovation and inclusion of RPG Mechanics on everything.
0:06 stock shortages: I don't think so
You can also use a PC for work and make back that extra cost in no time.
Epic gave away over 150 games for free, PC is the best value for money.
Xbox with game pass is second.
And game pass is on pc
@@ronlaufer5792 exactly, that's why PC is the best place to game, if you can afford it.
@@AnANas00-x3p yes
@@ronlaufer5792 is game pass cheaper on pc? If not, then what's the point?
@@AurumFaber it’s not cheaper but you can have game pass unlike ps5 so it’s and advantage over that and it makes the Xbox useless because you can play the same games and much more
As someone who plays both some things to consider are:
1. Some of the absolutely ridiculous steam sales on some popular titles. seeing bundles worth $80 go down to $10.
2. When buying additional storage you really don't need to spend that much on an SSD. Yes on paper that SSD is equal to the SSDs of consoles but you can be cheaper NVME SSDs or SATA SSDs which for gaming have a practically unnoticeable performance impact on boot times for half the price.
3. SUBJECTIVE PC has its own exclusives like CSGO as well as having access to some of the exclusive games on Xbox like the Halo series.
4. Keyboard and mouse doesn't need to be that expensive really. That's a good thing about PC that if you don't really care about super nice equipment you can choose to pay less. you can even find mechanical keyboards which are fine to use for under $30 and if you don't want mechanical you can always buy a normal one for under $20. Same goes for a mouse there are plenty of sub $30 mice out there. With a Console,if one breaks you want to buy some extras you have to spend the listed price or find some off-brand controller that often breaks in a year.
Then there's the elite/scuf controllers which are massively overpriced imo. High-quality KB&M costs much less than they normally do. Xbox elite is listed at $160 for me and you definitely can get equally nice PC stuff for that money
4. Depending on the games you play and your subjective tastes the PC will have a higher performance ceiling than the consoles assuming you get an RTX 3060. It will likely run most games at a higher FPS which is good for FPS games and will manage 60 FPS on games like cyberpunk if you use features like DLSS which boost FPS with more or less no loos in quality unless you really go out of your way to look for it. Console games are typically better optimised but features like DLSS definitely make up for it.
You forgot to factor in reselling/ exchanging physical discs on consoles. Will save you a TON of money.
Ninja download Steam and when you accumulate some retared amount of games let me know if you enjoyed selling your child hood game on pc you keep your childhood memories forever well... unless the developers decide to shut down the surver lol
Btw you can sell your gpu and get better ones catch up kid #f2020
@@Beshoyyoussef I don't stick to a game more than a year or two. Once I 100% finish a game, I exchange it for a new one. I don't need to keep games collecting dust in the corner just for the sake of " childhood memories ". But that's just me.
@@Beshoyyoussef Yes you can sell a GPU and get a better one, while on console, you don't NEED to sell the hardware because the developers will keep supporting and improving the games till the end of the console cycle. And PC's unfortunately are held back by consoles anyway so you won't see any major advancement in graphics until the next console generation. I was a hardcore PC Gamer too but I realised it's not worth the hassle.
Also, when you sell your GPU, what if the motherboard doesn't support it ?? And what if it's bottlenecked by the CPU ?? You see, it's a never ending cycle of buying new parts every 2-3 years, which just isn't worth it to me.
@@anujsansare ight we are all just built different but i like ur point of view tho i guss i just like tinkering with parts on the PC platform
What about a spreadsheet for hardcore VR gamers. By my personal experience they buy 4 VR systems over the course of 2-3 years -.-
😮 I'm not alone 😭
I feel like the second I get an index the next one will either be announced or about to release.
I still have the Samsung Odyssey Plus I got 2 years ago and basically nothing is a real upgrade from it. It has a 90hz OLED display with the exact same resolution. Plus it also is inside out tracking thanks to being windows mixed reality. Downside is having to trick games its a rift to run some games. Basically put the Index for 4 times to price I paid is only moderately better with a higher resolution, 20 degrees bigger FOV (though that also means resolution look worse), and better controllers. Though I can always trick my headset to use the index controls with a bit of effort but I only paid $200 for my headset so it's not a good deal. Plus the Samsung has a special filter the Index lacks making the screen door effect less noticeable and it's OLED so darks are better. It's better but just not worth it.
@@Skylancer727 as an OG Oddyssey owner that got one a few months after launch I totally agree with you!
The tracking might not be perfect but it's something I can live with considering the price I've payed and that it was the better option at the time of the purchase! At my country we don't have any VR HMD beeing sold locally, so they are all imports and at the time the Oculus Rift was twice the price and the Vive was almost 4x more expensive, so yeah the Oddyssey was the best in specs and price.
I don't like the outside in setup of the lighthouse systems either.
I don't feel like getting anything else unless there's something like a new Quest like device that is SteamVR branded LOL the Quest sounds awesome in theory then you realize you would have to repurchase your games library to play on the go, and that's the part where it stops looking like a great deal to me LOL
There's also some additional stuff to factor in, the free ps plus games are getting really good, especially in March of 2021, I have over 150 games on the PS5/PS4 but only maybe 30 were purchased, and even then many of them were on steep sales as there's regular sales on games anywhere from 30-70% on the PlayStation store, some new and quite a lot of 1-2 year old games.
Should also take into consideration, given pc optimization and constant release of new products, so a 7 year old pc can't play games like their console equivalent. No matter what you build , a pc can't last for 5 years without upgrade.
Yes same for an console also, you get a pro version released in 3 years of the original console and no hardware lasts for more than 4 years.
We all know people pirate games on PC, so I would estimate the game prices for the pc to be WAY lower
normally not but steam sales😍
@@somnia3423 Yes, and that too. As well as various key sites that offer games for up to 50% less than retail price
@@somnia3423 then mods for old games instead of remasters or backwards compatibility 🤮🤮
PCs are the best bruh
$1200 can get you a 3070 and ryzen 3600x with 16gb-3600 RAM + 512GB NVME
That would absolutely smoke any console or pro console for the next 7 yrs
@@william_SMMA yeah, i love to play ps3 games with 60fps mods lol
@@somnia3423 yup...
Ps2 games too... No need to wait for sony to FEEL like it before you enjoy that nostalgia...
30 series graphics cards can run any emulation software at ULTRA settings and 1440p - 100+ fps
Unless the user doesn't know what he's doing
you are totally underestimating the value of Gamepass. The number of games I need to buy is getting lower and lower. Gamepass makes a big difference. You get AAA games on day 1 of their launches.
Like 4 AAA games that are mediocre
@@kevinragsdale6256 it's all EA games period, all Bethesda games, and all Microsoft exclusives. That's way more substantial than most let it on. Personally can't use it as my Microsoft account is screwy but still, it is a fantastic deal.
@@Skylancer727 fantastic deal for people that like mediocre games.
Game pass is on PC so not having it is only a downside for PS5.
@@kevinragsdale6256 no all their first party games like hellblade 2, Halo infinite, psychonauts, Crossfire x, The medium, etc are all coming their day one. Even in their words generations Xbox one they still had some good games. So don't doubt game pass, everybody knows it's a good deal
To keep it short: You want to have a great experience without breaking the bank, go for console. They are great.
Have a bit more money to expend down the run or already have the money? Go for PC. Less input lag, great PC aim, no online pay. And keybinds/mousebinds. You don't have to buy a scuff controller that is like 150 bucks, which only has 4 extra binds. While a mouse like a Logitech g502, has like idk, 9 buttons you can program ( which I do indeed use. Very handy)
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the real one talking facts!
You know you can use a normal hard drive on the series X ? And transfer the games you want to play between that and the SSD as and when.
Is it confirmed ps5/Xbox games will work on a HDD, I imagine there would be some issues with online games if you join the lobby 60seconds later because you're on a hdd
@@yahyasajid5113 you can transfer those just to keep those locally(for ps5 games this feature will come later), but you can’t play current gen games out of hdd. You can play last gen games from external drives, though
Recently I've seen news that apparently on PS5 you can only have PS4 games on HDD. PS5 games must be always on the internal drive, and you can't even STORE them on the external drive. I'm not sure whether it's intended or a bug, but you should keep in mind that Sony's console might not offer such functionality.
@@Vengir they say this would be available in the future. They stripped many other features they claimed will be there. Seems that ps5 firmware wasn’t ready for the launch .
@@Unexpectedstuff that's not too bad them, one console and you can play 2 generation of games on
Switched from Xbox one x to a PC after using Xbox my whole life the only thing I miss is sitting on the couch and playing but I don’t have to pay for online so it’s so much better and I love IT
This is a great video, I personally only play one game at a time so I will never fill up my storage
If you factor in the price of upgrading cpu ram gpu etc. The PC price over a long time goes way up
I get the point of this video for a casual gamer I still think Pc is better because use components can be a lot cheaper and stand up with the new consoles and on the PC you could add storage a lot easier with hard drives our. nvm SSDs for a little bit slower SATA SSDs and at the end of a generation with the PC you can upgrade it to save some money by keeping the power supply case and storage
the only thing i see wrong with the pc chart is that, storage for pc is around $100 for 1 tb ssd. you could get a 1tb hard drive for 50 dollars.
I'm better off having a PC
Ps 5 is dirt cheap you would be an old man not to get that. 400$ for something that is worth more than 1500$
@@The-illuminated its worth 400$ not 1500😂
1 tb ssd' are not $230.
1TB SSDs with comparable speeds as those in the Xbox series x and PS5 are.
I think that's a tough one. It's a bit over $100 if you want it to be as fast or faster than the series x ssd which apparently goes up to 2.4 gb/s. The ps5 is much faster though so it would likely be more expensive there. Not sure how much more but in the future he could maybe have two different options there considering that the series x and ps5 had different specs and the pc was trying to get something equivalent.
Thank you for showing the variable of number of games and such. It was very helpful.
I think the better experiment would be over multiple console generations and keeping the pc specs roughly the same as the console generation you are on.
Just going to say the only thing messing up your estimates/assumptions is game pass
So people should take this with a grain of salt otherwise this is pretty accurate
Am so poor I cant even buy a ps4 muchless ps5 and the other new consoles
Own PC, subscribe to Xbox Game Pass and rent PS5 for a month to finish all exclusives
I have a cpu for multi-purpose uses, 32gb of RAM, and almost 20TB of space. best investment ever
Can you do ruggable rugs or vessi shoes?
I have vessi shoes...🙃
I really didn't like the sound at 2:42
Sounds like someone is banging on a window in another room. Or maybe the garage? Lol
@@rusty8311 sounds like my mom makeing me another brother or sister who knows man
Something worth noting here, is its not just about the cost. I have a very capable gaming PC and the overhead for running games is huge. Console does not have that problem, and now 4k 60fps is the standard there. To get a comparable pc to do the same thing costs WAY more than your estimate. Equivalent hardware capabilities does not equal 4k 60fps on either platform.
the thing I loved about ps4 was me and some friends would just share discs, I played over 30 games but only bought 8 games on discs+5digital games
If you have a pc for 7 years, you will want to upkeep it so you will upgrade overtime. That is an extra 1000+ dollars over a budget. With an Xbox or ps5, you usually spend around 500 dollars on games instead of up keeping the system
Jimmy out here picking the 3060 to compete with integrated graphics.
Ok bro good job for sharing this video😍 but I don't know how much does a keyboard and a mouse costs in your country but in my country a Normal mouse with $3 and a Normal keyboard with $6 or 10 dollars and games for PCs costs 2 or 4 dollars and yes you can download games for free in PCs which means you will save alot .. and BTW I don't have a PC 😁
Good video overall, but a 980 Evo is overkill and wouldn’t benefit on the b450 mobo. So it would be more cost efficient to go with a 970 Evo or for a slight loss in read and write times go for a 2.5” ssd, 860 Evo, because they are fast and much cheaper. Which that saved cost can now go to a better power supply for the 3060/3060 ti!
Yup
And that not even considering if you buy a cheaper pc and upgrade it 2-3 years later
Oof
PC is the best investment if you're thinking long term.
I bought a 2500 dollar tower and I haven't touched it since I got the series x. Basically dont let people peer pressure you into gaming. Game where you want to game. I love the function from going to gaming to switching to a movie on my couch then the traditional route of sitting on a chair.
What you do with the tower then ?
@@goldensilverstar unfortunately it sits there. I'm thinking when I get a vr set I'll probably touch it again. When something comes up and I need it for work or something I'll use it. I bought the thing and the people who wanted me to get it dont really play with me. Im pretty bad at mk but I only wanna play games with others. I'd rather play RPGs on the couch on a controller that I'm more comfortable.
@@sirowthereaper hey, if you don't really need your pc anymore ill gladly trade mine with yours
It's also worth noting that although the upfront cost is significant for PC gamers, future upgrades are cheaper than the initial cost. The case, storage, PSU, etc. can be kept while only upgrading the GPU (and sometimes CPU/mobo). At most, the result is paying an extra ~$300-600 for GPU upgrade every generation to keep up with consoles assuming you're not buying top of the line. Plus, a CPU upgrade isn't always necessary as it doesn't always have as big of an impact on gaming as GPUs do.
By using a console you don't need to upgrade anything. You are sure that all games during the lifespan for that console will run on it. Also no problems with drivers and OS upgrades/patches etc.
@@Makull1971 not true, you need to upgrade consoles at the end of the generation cycle (ie upgrading to PS5 from PS4). And as far as games are concerned they're not always backwards compatible from the previous generation.
@@Makull1971 "by using a console you dont need to upgrade anything" do you mean you *cant* upgrade anything? I dont think many people still use their ps3 or ps2 to play the latest graphic intensive games, and if you are, a ps3 isn't gonna have the same graphical power as a $1000 pc
*Laughs in cracked free games*
Can you tell me how to obtain such games ?
@@goldensilverstar nosteam.ro , firgirl , gog and so much more
@@zuhayersiddique6430 can you tell me what those are please?
@@goldensilverstar nope. You have to google them yourself
What you have not considered is that people will trade physical disk. PSN plus membership gives 2 games every month and Xbox games pass gives 100's of free games. If you buy in offer correctly PS plus membership is utterly cheap. The same goes for Xbox membership.
PS5 would be Jail break at some point.
Also resale value. PC has absolutely abysmal resale value for components courtesy of miners. The 499$ PS5 you bought if it works properly can fetch you 100-150$ after 5-6 years. That's insane. Try selling rtx 3060ti for 100$ in 2026.
I think your numbers were pretty good on paper, but I notice that A LOT (80%) of games that I have on PS4 were either really cheap on PSN (less than 15 bucks) , traded with someone for another game or bought 2nd hand for less than 35 bucks. The ONLY game I ever bought on Day 1 was TLOU2 for 60 bucks in my whole console lifecycle.
In my place an average keyboard and mouse costs less than half the price of a dual sense. And a high quality keyboard can be bought at roughly half the price. There's also the fact that most people I know only do a few upgrades to their pc every gen. Like get a new processor and GPU and maybe add an extra ram stick. I already have a pc that'll last me another 3-4 years and I'm hoping to get a ps5 next year when the price drops a little and it's available.
great video thank you what makes me want ps5 over pc is exclusive games like god of war and last of us otherwise 100% would go for a pc
PC has way more use than just gaming.
So usually how I compare price for my pc and consoles:-
Say I have to buy a normal computer, so I go to pcpartpicker and make a normal computer note down the price(usually around $500)..upgrade it with slightly better CPU, add a GPU and extra RAM if needed and note down the price again(around $300)
Then I find the difference of the two prices to find out how much I am spending on the "gaming" side of my PC
Just a couple of thoughts:
- Price for added storage for PS5 and PC is likely to decrease substantially over time, whereas for XBox it will have a more rigid price for longer
- I know it's kind of a cheat, but a person buying a console is okay with it for several years, whereas a person spending 1k (or more) for a custom PC is much more likely to upgrade this component or that component over time. This means that the hardware cost is not just the initial one. With that said, PS4 Pro and XBox One X showed that there can be mid-generation upgrades for hardware, so that kind of messes up everything anyway
Let's think about it like this. For the average gamer who is on budget. Get a console. If you have a budget over 1000 dollars and are prepared to spend that, buy a pc because they are truly worth the experience. It is not really cheaper than a console, but the performance, quality of the games, settings you can activate and more are truly breathtaking. The mods you can install like shaders on minecraft for example or natural visions for gta make games look absurd. When your purchasing components for a pc, be smart about it and pay the most money for what you need. And in the end it will be a truly amazing time and you won't regret it.
Hey Jimmy, I’ve been subbed to your channel for a very long time, I believe since 4.5k subs? You made some sorta video at your university when I subbed. Glad you’ve succeeded :)
I think a PC is the best option in the long run. That's because most people have a PC, and Steam got many cheap games that can be played on even low spec PC. Steam also have a pretty great return policy. It also got a good variety of games. And most games will most likely be playable with better graphics, if you buy a better PC later.
I think Nintendo Switch and especially Switch Lite is also good as a cheap choice, if you stay away from their exclusives (easier said than done). Got lots of Indie games and some AAA titles, but I wouldn't recommend it if you prefer either racing games or FPS games.
Xbox Series S. Cheaper than Series X and PS5, if you don't play games that require much diskspace and don't care need the better graphics you get from Series X and PS5. Plus Xbox Game Pass is still deal and you can find many games there, that don't require much discspace.
When my xbox one died I switched to my pc and happy for it. Good video.
Good review, but I think you're missing how developers optimizing for consoles extends their lifespan. Because each ps5 or xbox has the same hardware, developers can optimize games to still run well on that exact hardware for years down the line. If you bought that comparable pc today, in five or six years it won't run games well, and it probably would need upgrades along the way. The performance advantage you get in turn is that the pc will always have the potential for greater performance, if you have the $
My PC is 5 years old and I have zero struggles. What you mean by optimizing is mostly reduced settings, which is something you can always do on pc. Instead of ultra im playing medium in new games now and still get 60 fps minimum without issues.
Thank you very helpful actually searched this up and this is exactly what I was looking for very rare 1/828383 chance of it happening in terms of mc
I’m getting a pc on Christmas Day
What about someone who has a Xbox series X but doesn't buy any game, only pays for the game pass ultimate?
They're excluded,he said that.
You should revisit this topic. Xbox ultimate pass is $17 a month times 12= $204 per year. X7=$1450 alone. Add console and controller 2k before buying any games. I have a rough estimate at $3500 for xbox x over 7 years, $3100 for ps5 over 7 years.
The bigger bonus of having a pc is the upgradability of it. When the next console generation comes out you don't have to buy that full price pc again.
Its the same because you will buy new gpu and cpu after a big 7 years that will cost you 400$ to --- depends on you
@@sawyiier4870 nah
Sell your old one and add $100 to buy a new one
And don't forget that a 3060ti that costs $400 is already 30% faster than a PC when you add all the PS PLUS + $70 games
And we've not even mentioned DLSS 2.0
If you're really cheap on PC you can just download the epic launcher and then you can get free games each week. Humble bundle is also a cheap-ish option for getting a lot of games to play (assuming you like the selection). I think you can also use Xcloud and PSNow on a PC if you want to play exclusives, although streaming is never as good. PSNow is also basically gamepass on PS4/5 btw, it's not just the streaming service that most people think it is.
Not taking into account Gamepass is silly. Its insane value for both Xbox and PC.
something else to consider for the pc. If you already own a pc, you dont have to buy a complete new one, you can just upgrade the old one. For example, i have used the gtx 1070 graphics card during the last gen. Now i am upgrading it to the rtx 3070 and i am ready to go. Ok, it is nearly impossible to ad that into an statistic like that, but that is what i like about pc. You have the freedom to choose your Hardware and exchange whatever you want.
5:40 “for when stuff eventually breaks” lmao I’m still using my factory Xbox one controller I got with the console 7 years ago. Xbox one, personally, has been the single most reliable piece of hardware I’ve owned
PC does more than gaming. You can use it basically for anything. From online schooling to video editing. Adding those extras makes PC much better choice and way cheaper. Plus it’s upgradable. You choose what settings you gonna play a game with what specs. I’m console the corporate is telling you in which settings you’re allowed to play and on which console specs. For all those reasons I can’t see my picture playing on console. People are different and fir many consoles make more sense. I’m ok with it. If you’re happy on console guys rock on. Enjoy it. There’s no wright or wrong. Different people have different needs and make different choices. I’m not here to bash anyone but just to give my point of view. Peace console players.
PC does tend to be more expensive up front, but long term I think the value proposition is far superior to consoles particularly if you know what you're doing and set yourself up for a good upgrade path. It certainly does take more work than a console though, which usually is basically plug and play.
Some other things to consider regarding PC:
Incremental upgrades extend the viability of the system far longer than a console at a fraction of the price depending on just how much you're willing to splurge on specific parts.
Now it is true that individual PC parts can be more expensive than entire consoles, but the savings come in when you consider that you can keep your mouse and keyboard and all your previous games with PC upgrades. Unless a console manufacturer opts to include backwards compatibility, which Nintendo and Sony don't seem inclined to do, you're left with three choices. Keep your old console to play the older games, leave those games behind, or be prepared to buy them again on the new console if they get ports or "remasters."
If you're really casual I can see why you'd prefer a console, but if you're an enthusiast and you're willing to do just a little extra work I feel you will get a much better experience from the PC platform.
A few things I'd like to add: The 980 Pro SSD is unnecessary and won't give any additional benefit, and the $50 wifi adapter is not needed as if your gaming you most definitely won't be using wifi (at least if you want to have a good experience) I'd personally cut the ssd to a more reasonable $130 which still gives you a 1TB NVME drive with insanely fast speeds, just not one that is overpriced like the one from Samsung. $1000 for the computer would be more reasonable.
And since you chose Logitech for your mice and keyboard, there is no need to factor in price to replace them, as Logitech peripherals don't break (Trust me, I've used Logitech my entire life, these things usually last 20+ *years* before they break)
With the scalpers feccing hoarding every single console/graphics cards, and reselling them for like triple the actual price.
It’s probably a cheaper to build PC with a 2080 instead of a 3000 series.
If we’re not talking the scalpers, PC is mostly like the most expensive way to run properly.
PC's are very expensive to build properly with modern specs, it’s 100% worth buying that bullet.
Dam, I guess I have to get all 3
"Its a great time to be a gamer, everybody gets something..." Not really since everything is out of stock. 😂
Its actually very easy to decide.
Console : 500$ 1 time for the next 6 years + another 500-600$ if you buy a new 4k Tv/Monitor.
Pc : atleast 1500$ + accessories for a good mid range tower ( not 4K capable ) + another 150-500 if you need a monitor. You also gonna invest overtime for new Ram,Processor,Video card... In 6 years time that Pc gonna cost you minimum 2000$ and you still gonna have all the Windows,Nvidia driver problems,crashes,incompatibility issues... On the other hand the console ( soon as they all patched ) are plug,install and play.
I was a Pc player til now. Console it is from now on. The quality for price is unbeatable.
@Chris67 I dont know if you know the youtuber/pc builder JayzTwoCents ? According to him ( he tried to build a console killer cheap as possible ) the lowest he could go without monitor was 1300$ . The best budget 4K monitor is around 400$. Thats already 1700$. And when im talking about native 4K im not talking about 4K on medium/low settings... Im talking Native 4K at minimum 60fps at high/ultra settings. For that my friend ( according to professional Pc builders ) you need atleast a 2080ti. Thats not 400$...
Cyberpunk 2077 system requirements for 2160p gaming : rtx2080super or rtx3070 with i7.
That 2 components cost more than 3 consoles.
What's the conclusion from all the information you shared with me you ask? A great honest-to-goodness review. Thanks for your research.
I have both console and PC. If you’re looking just to game and nothing else I would invest in a console. Pc is amazing for sure but if you’re just gaming and not using it for work, school, etc.. and have a laptop for that stuff it’s a lot of money to maintain just for a hobby to spend X amount of hours on gaming but hey man PCs are great in their own way as well just be ready to spend a bit more if you want a Good pc gaming experience
I'll be honest, I was ready to write this video as a (PRO/in defense of) PC video but it turned out to be pretty decent. Classifying gamer in ways other that PC/Console was refreshing and the spreadsheet was actual helpful breakdown. Definitely consider myself frugal though. 90% of my game library comes from PS+, GwG, and humble bundles the next 9% under $10
This is anecdotal obviously, but my experience with reliability heavily favors PC. Went through 2 Xbox 360s during that generation and 2 Xbox Ones. The 360s had RRODs and the One's had wifi board issues. Idk what's going on with Xbox quality control but its trash.
Hmmm.. Look my dude I really appreciate this video but I need more details about:
I need a full comparison between Xbox / Playstation / pc
On the amount and quality of games available / the exclusives / the cost of memberships the deals and offers / the backward compatibility / the free games.. The platform as a whole.
Lastly please talk about cross play.. I really hate the fact that it's a major factor that after comparing the fu#k out of xbox x / ps5 / pc I still have to choose what my friends are choosing..
I heard that cross play got some hope with next generation consoles.
Last concern about pc is that it's a solo experience I mean it's looks difficult to play with friends locally or with your significant other or watching movies.. How do pc users deal with it? Maybe a second monitor / tv is the solution?
I will sub and ring the bell incase you replied with a video but I'll gladly take a written reply because my concerns are too much lol
(English isn't my first language)
if you want a cheap affordable gaming console Nintendo switch
I definitely feel (especially if you get a good keyboard, even for just $80) that a keyboard and mouse can definitely outlive a standard controller because they have less moving parts. That being said I also think most people would buy a controller for their pc anyways but that could be a $20 360 controller or a modern $60 controller. I understand why you didn't add them into the analysis though because you could keep nitpicking but I do think that it's sort of unfair to assume that a controller will last as long as a keyboard and mouse.
Also pc is way better cause you can do soo much more
Unless maybe I zoned out and missed it I do think you missed one big savings factor of a PC. When a new console generation comes out if you want to upgrade you have to buy an entire new device. However with a PC you can slowly update your hardware over time to keep up with modeern games. Instead of needing to buy a whole knew thing all at once, you can buy a couple smaller scale upgrades over a number of years.
This was a good attempt at explaining the overall price difference that consoles and PCs are gonna have in the 7 year period. And I do agree with the overall sentiment that down the line, PC will eventually become more cheaper to sustain, although I do still have some doubts about that. But I think this video missed out on some important points.
The first is the primary use of digital media on PC compared to the use both physical and digital media on consoles, and that opens up a lot of cost cutting opportunities as now you can buy, sell, resell, rent, lend, etc. all of your games if you want to. There are also sales that go live regularly on both physical and digital games as well as the option for subscription services. So, if utilized properly then console gaming can end up being much cheaper when it comes to buying games.
The second thing I noticed was storage, why do console gamers NEED external storage as well as additional storage? Makes no sense. Honestly, you can go an entire generation with a console without ever having to expand your storage. Yes it is a little tedious of having to keep downloading games, but to me personally it's a better trade off than having to shell out a $100-200 on storage. However that is not the case for PC gaming cuz down the line, a gaming PC will definitely need more storage cuz even if you can download and redownload games, there are gonna be other things on your storage that you cannot replace.
You can also share the cost of online play with another person and get all the "free" monthly games.
Games are a bit cheaper on PC than consoles and even more so compared to the next gen console game prices. Plus, you can’t upgrade consoles halfway through unlike a pc where you can just swap things. Downside though are the exclusives. Non existent on PC.
What people don't seem to understand is that consoles are cheap in the now $500 might not seem like that much In the Heat of the Moment with the amount of money you're going to have to invest in it and I do mean have to, to be able to experiences certain features like online games upped price and (this is more of a PlayStation thing) next-gen graphic and performance upgrade why should you have to pay just to experience the features and performance of the hardware you already paid for
While owning one of these three is cost the same in 5 years, one thing to point out is buying new physical games on consoles you can resell after you are done playing. Not on pc because most games today are digital games, so you can't resell the games.
When the pc games prices are itself cheap why would you even want to resell it in the first place ?
One thing people barely bring up when debating pc vs consoles is the fact that not only can you buy used console games, but also sell them when you're done playing them. This can save a lot of money in the long run. Buying everything digitally means once your money is spent, you can't win some of that money back ever. This can only be done on consoles.
Best case scenario is the equivalent graphics card to the consoles is an RTX 3080. It will perform worse than the PS5 in 2027 but better for the first few years. But there's a fair to good chance that poor optimisation will mean even a top of the line PC built today will need a complete refresh in 3 years to compete with consoles. If you don't believe me then why aren't you still running an Nvidia 760 as your main gaming system? High end gaming PCs are expensive. They just are.