How Powerful is Darth Vader? | Star Wars Canon

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    #DarthVader #obiwankenobi #starwars
    0:00 Intro
    2:33 Anakin Skywalker
    6:30 Duel with Obi-Wan
    9:35 Obtaining his Sith Lightsaber
    12:30 Surpassing Anakin
    16:42 The Return of Darth Momin
    19:30 Rematch of the Century
    21:10 Vader's Prime
    25:10 The Conflict
    28:40 Peak Power
    34:30 I Feel the Good In You
    36:00 Speed and Force Abilities
    Darth Vader, Dark Lord of the Sith - one of the most iconic characters in cinematic history has returned for the Obi-Wan series and I could not be more excited to discuss Star Wars again. As many long-time subscribers know, I used to cover Star Wars all the time - not to the level that I detail Marvel Cinematic Universe or DC Extended Universe power scaling, but a decent amount. I have made videos on Ahsoka, Darth Maul, Mace Windu, Boba Fett, and even the High Republic. I’m a massive fan, but with other properties taking up the bulk of my time, I haven’t had the chance to delve into Star Wars as much, but now is the time to return. So, in this video I will be detailing Darth Vader’s incredible power, speed, and force abilities; however, I’m going to do it a bit differently than a typical Key Issues power scaling video. I’m going to take you on a journey from Anakin’s turn to the Dark Side and his rebirth as Darth Vader in Revenge of the Sith all the way through his death in Return of the Jedi to show you how powerful Vader is throughout his time as Sidious’ most powerful weapon.
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  • @KeyIssues
    @KeyIssues  Před 2 lety +53

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    • @KDMSHOWCASE
      @KDMSHOWCASE Před 2 lety +2

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    • @transformerstuff7029
      @transformerstuff7029 Před 2 lety +1

      @@KDMSHOWCASE yup.

    • @wilmerlubian3564
      @wilmerlubian3564 Před rokem +1

      Hello Key Issues! Can you do a video on how powerful/strong Thor is during Thor Love and Thunder?

    • @OdinSmilesRavensLaugh72051
      @OdinSmilesRavensLaugh72051 Před rokem +2

      Darth Sidious would be a perfect character to promote Duracell batteries... Unlimited POWAAAAAHHHH
      (Enter intense sidious laugh)
      😂HAHAHAHA😂

    • @CharlieHepp
      @CharlieHepp Před rokem +1

      is true

  • @PingoDS
    @PingoDS Před 11 měsíci +174

    "The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant compared to the power of the force"
    -Darth Vader

  • @nexus8796
    @nexus8796 Před rokem +459

    People tend to forget that water is denser than air. In fallen order, the water Vader held is more impressive than it looks. Plus having to keep the entire area of the base from collapsing in due to the water. Ahsoka should get more credit for her standing up to Vader. Though his power level wasn't topped, still impressive.

    • @julien6871
      @julien6871 Před rokem +46

      I'm agreeing with you
      He is holding 136,586,969.32kg
      DO YOU KNOW WHAT THAT EQUATES TO
      The titanic fully loaded with people and food. He wouldn't even break a sweat lifting the titanic, he could deadlift the titanic, big ben, the Washington monument, 11 elephants, 50 grand pianos, 5 international space stations, and 10 fully fueled Antonov 255's at the same time! And still have enough force to drink a cup of tea. Vader is beast! Do or do not there is no try size means nothing freakin Yoda nearly had a heart attack lifting a x-wing out of a swamp meanwhile I'm reasonably certain Vader's over here making Starkiller look like an outclassed baby for struggling to just like barely push an imperial stardestroyer a little bit. This man is strong with the force in a terrifying way.

    • @gslinger19
      @gslinger19 Před rokem +17

      Vader ended up so deep in the water in the current comics that it was black all around. He was able to keep himself inside a sort of force bubble long enough to get to a safer place. That is truly insane. Look for Darth Vader: Dark Lord of the Sith. Vol 3. The Burning Skies, to see it for yourself.

    • @AdrienMitchell69
      @AdrienMitchell69 Před rokem +5

      Wait. Who forgets that water is denser than air? Who are you hanging out with? 😂

    • @julien6871
      @julien6871 Před rokem +2

      @@AdrienMitchell69 meaning its heavier, people brush it off

    • @absolutleynotanalien8096
      @absolutleynotanalien8096 Před rokem +3

      771 times heavier

  • @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375

    Damn Darth Vader is more powerful than he was depicted in the movies

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před 2 lety +84

      Much more so!

    • @mistamaog
      @mistamaog Před rokem +12

      To be fair, he was much older in the movies, plus conflicted with his feelings about his son

    • @Senate917
      @Senate917 Před rokem +15

      This always happens if a series gets comics to tie in to stuff. They end up being powerful as hell and in the movie it looks like a joke lol.

    • @giosbizarreart9048
      @giosbizarreart9048 Před rokem +9

      @@mistamaog he was actually strongest in ROTJ it’s just that the directors don’t care for showing crazy feats of strength and also didn’t have the right techniques and technology to do so

    • @Tribrid-zv3nq
      @Tribrid-zv3nq Před 9 měsíci +1

      ​@@Senate917 you cant expect a character to be as powerful on live action.

  • @UnswimmingFishYT
    @UnswimmingFishYT Před rokem +184

    Vader also has beskar hands, instead of the durasteel like the rest of his suit, and he actually has an electrifying net-like blast attack built into them, to make up for his lack of force lightning, which he couldn't use without flesh hands. Then there's the physical strength not often seen with him being able to punch a large dent into a metal surface, and lift several hundred pounds without much effort.

    • @creed8712
      @creed8712 Před rokem +6

      Beskar? Is that how they’ve explained away his hand thing in Empire cause them just being metal/ a force power sounds a lot better because otherwise vader would just be dusting people with the force of a truck

    • @UnswimmingFishYT
      @UnswimmingFishYT Před rokem +13

      @@creed8712 Well, he has in a few cases dented metal walls and a table, and in a canon comic he actually did beat a man to death with his fists, which looked very brutal and did more damage than you'd expect from a normal hand. It's possible to find cases where his beskar hands are used to do damage, but it usually just doesn't happen because he favors his lightsaber and force powers, which I would too if I had those things. There is mention that blasters can be stopped by the force, but I don't remember anyone actually blocking one with it, only a very rare occurence of freezing them temporarily.

    • @absolutleynotanalien8096
      @absolutleynotanalien8096 Před rokem

      One beskar hand.

    • @absolutleynotanalien8096
      @absolutleynotanalien8096 Před rokem

      Or glove the inside isn't beskar.

    • @dorkydorgi5873
      @dorkydorgi5873 Před rokem

      Didn’t vader like rip apart space time or something?

  • @naterybar9106
    @naterybar9106 Před 2 lety +167

    Great video man. This is exactly the reason why Vader lost to Obi-Wan in the rematch because he was conflicted plain and simple. He wasn't fully enveloped in the dark side that's why palps sensed Anakin peeking through. Also vader was crying! That's Anakin crying. Even in Legends where Vader is said to be 80% of the emperor due to his injuries palpatine even States that he believed Vader could reawaken his full potential even in the suit and injuries if he got rid of the Anakin side of him a psychologically fucked up part if he fully embraced his choices and the path said before him he could reawaken true power, Which is why sidious thought Vader's weakness was psychological and not so much physical. But in this new comics as your video shows the Marvel Disney comics he's an absolute powerhouse. In this new iteration he no longer lost any of his Force potential due to his lost limbs and injuries as he did in Legends. I don't know about you but I think it's great to see Darth Vader in his iconic suit one of the greatest creations in the world of all time being an absolute badass a monster and the true rival to sidious he truly truly tapped in to his hatred and pain about all he lost and his wife Vader seems to have a Hulk like complex about him and if he used this I believe he could have taken the emperor on one-on-one.

    • @johnmanonas9088
      @johnmanonas9088 Před rokem +16

      Finally someone who really knows canon vader

    • @davidtabaka2663
      @davidtabaka2663 Před rokem +6

      You're right. Vader does have a Hulk like complex.
      Goosefrabba. Goosefrabba.
      You know when Obi-One says strike me down in anger and I will be with you always?
      Reminds me of David and Goliath.
      Remember it was David Banner before it was Bruce Banner.
      Psalm 122:5

    • @jub3802
      @jub3802 Před rokem +1

      blud ain’t ever heard of a form of punctuation

    • @prestonchurch8081
      @prestonchurch8081 Před rokem +1

      I also think people forget just how good of a duelist obi-wan was being one of the best duelists if not the best at his style.

  • @Blazecap
    @Blazecap Před 2 lety +150

    You should do more Star Wars vids. These are great!

  • @DanRivers22
    @DanRivers22 Před rokem +14

    Vader is my favourite fictional character period. And this video is a stroke of genius.

  • @rozzysadventures4434
    @rozzysadventures4434 Před rokem +53

    What's even more amazing... The fact that he lost half of his body..i.e. Half of his midiclorians. And still had that amazing level of power..

    • @babeatriple
      @babeatriple Před rokem +10

      Bro that's not even canon 😭

    • @eeurr1306
      @eeurr1306 Před rokem

      @@babeatriple Like the yoda mountain lift comic was canon.

    • @babeatriple
      @babeatriple Před rokem +9

      @@eeurr1306 yes It was canon

    • @eeurr1306
      @eeurr1306 Před rokem

      @@babeatriple That doesnt make sense considering he struggles with way smaller things during the clonewars but okay

    • @babeatriple
      @babeatriple Před rokem +3

      @@eeurr1306 did you read the entire comic?

  • @mmm6481
    @mmm6481 Před 2 lety +35

    calling obi wan a worse duelist and downplaying his ability is a bit unfair, he was called THE master of form 3 by windu, which almost perfectly countered anakins attack minded form

    • @solen5529
      @solen5529 Před 2 lety +20

      I mean he straight up was a worse dualist then Anakin no argument about that Anakin had him outclassed in Force and Dueling

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před 2 lety +22

      He's far worse. Look at his duels compared to the best in the galaxy. Yoda, Mace and Anakin are vastly superior.

    • @user-xr3ul2xc1l
      @user-xr3ul2xc1l Před 2 lety +7

      Lol Anakin was toying with obi wan during the mustafar fight. Anakin was at Yoda's level in revenge of the sith, I mean, his djem-so attack form is on par with plo koon's djem-so, and plo koons beat Yoda, so Anakin could too

    • @adilhussain5154
      @adilhussain5154 Před rokem +5

      @@user-xr3ul2xc1l vader wasn’t toying with obi wan on mustafar and plo koon never beat yoda, that’s literally from some shitty video game that isn’t canon

    • @user-xr3ul2xc1l
      @user-xr3ul2xc1l Před rokem +3

      @@adilhussain5154 Anakin was toying with obi wan, end of story. Anakin could've used the force to put lava on obi wan but Anakin just wanted a fun fight. Anakin is vastly superior.

  • @bndn4018
    @bndn4018 Před rokem +4

    I am young so i watch them from 1 to 6. It broke my heart seeing my childhood hero loosing his path falling in darkness. But it also sogten my heart seeing him redeem himself joind the light again.a facinating character

  • @gslinger19
    @gslinger19 Před rokem +16

    I mentioned this before I think in a different video but for force push feats. Vader ended up so deep in the water in the current comics that it was black all around. He was able to keep himself inside a sort of force bubble long enough to get to a safer place. That is truly insane. Look for Darth Vader: Dark Lord of the Sith. Vol 3. The Burning Skies, to see it for yourself.

    • @ansal2525
      @ansal2525 Před 9 měsíci +2

      He was much more powerful than what was depicted, also, in the Kenobi series. They diminished his power to get an emotional ending. Unfair.

    • @gslinger19
      @gslinger19 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @ansal2525 yeah and obi wan was tossing half a mountain around. He got bumped up.

    • @saturncrush
      @saturncrush Před 8 měsíci +1

      I want them to be done with the Skywalker saga, but I so wish we got a Vader movie to put all notions to rest that he is the baddest ever.

    • @ansal2525
      @ansal2525 Před 8 měsíci +2

      @@saturncrush A Vader's movie is unnecessary. The whole franchise is about him.

    • @saturncrush
      @saturncrush Před 8 měsíci +1

      @@ansal2525 Sadly you are correct. Seeing aspects of Vader in the comics is all we are going to get unfortunately. Vader breaking loose would be epic

  • @staroceans8677
    @staroceans8677 Před rokem +19

    Thank you for this video, it was EXCEPTIONAL 👍 Captivating, brilliantly narrated, excellent composition and an absolute treat to fans who adore and enjoy the knowledge and life of Anakin and Darth.
    Vader is my favorite, and everything he went through was testament to a remarkable character.
    He was a force of powerful and immeasurable reckoning!

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před rokem +2

      Thank you for the kind words, it really means a lot!

    • @staroceans8677
      @staroceans8677 Před rokem +1

      @@KeyIssues
      You are most welcome and VERY deserving, and to quote our favorite character..."Impressive, MOST impressive!"

  • @ogimbad8983
    @ogimbad8983 Před rokem +8

    You're videos are so much better then any other CZcamsrs for explaining the power of characters. I'd love for you to make a video on the true power of Darth Nihilus.

    • @DevinDTV
      @DevinDTV Před rokem

      i mean you can literally hear how low this guy's IQ is from the way he speaks. he said a character is "relative" to another character, as if it's a synonym for "comparable", rather than a synonym for "in comparison to". a native english speaker should know how the word "relative" is used in a sentence. and he said vader has reaction speed faster than light, even though reaction speed is a measure of time, not velocity. and he keeps using "tons" as a unit of energy when it's actually a unit of mass, although i imagine he means "tons of tnt", despite him not realizing it. and he wants to measure everything by energy (or mass?) even when other physical properties like power would obviously be more appropriate.
      this guy would do much better to simply list the feats and not attempt to perform any analysis, because he blatantly lacks the abilities to pull it off.

  • @ThatLobster-ly5jz
    @ThatLobster-ly5jz Před 2 lety +30

    Absolutely great video man! I hope this videos gets much appreciation because it is just great and very in-depth.

  • @rjc0188
    @rjc0188 Před 2 lety +3

    One of your best vids imo. Thank you.

  • @michaelmyers0003
    @michaelmyers0003 Před 2 lety +41

    But can he beat Batman with prep time tho?

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před 2 lety +18

      😅

    • @Gangst3r4ever
      @Gangst3r4ever Před 2 lety +1

      No. His suit is too vulnerable. And you can use his mental state against him. If I were Batman I would drug him to halucinate about Padme and use some electricity to take out his suit. Then give the killing strike.
      Bye bye Vader.

    • @Tom-iv6kh
      @Tom-iv6kh Před 2 lety +8

      @@Gangst3r4ever 🤓

    • @the_rose_garden01
      @the_rose_garden01 Před 2 lety +7

      @@Gangst3r4ever You can't use prep time against a Force Sensitive. The Force will tell them. Its been stated many times that the best way to actually fight someone trained in how to use the Force, you have to be completely clear headed and be as spontaneous and random as possible. Batman would never be able to touch him. Combine this with the fact he won't go for the kill, but Vader absolutely will. He gets his neck broken immediately
      Bye bye Batman
      Edit: what's also funny, is that everything you said, Vader literally has already gone through and overcame it and grew stronger

    • @Gangst3r4ever
      @Gangst3r4ever Před 2 lety

      @@the_rose_garden01 Well that's just plot armor

  • @TheChadChamp
    @TheChadChamp Před 2 lety +14

    I've been waiting for this video for YEARS and it the wait has finally paid off

  • @jocoolshow
    @jocoolshow Před 2 lety +65

    The only thing about the Obi-Wan vs Anakin duel at the end of episode 3 is that while yes, Anakin is stronger than Obi Wan but was conflicted, Obi-Wan was also emotionally unstable. To the point where he begged Yoda to fight the Emperor instead of Anakin. Not only that, but saying Obi-Wan knew Anakin's style flawlessly gave him an advantage is kind of null since Anakin also knows Obi-Wan's style just as well. They cancel each other out in that aspect
    During the Clone Wars, the general consensus was that Anakin had the edge in raw power but Obi-Wan has the edge in tactics/cunning and was relative enough to beat him.
    Also, with Anakin being conflicted, yes he was nerfed, but he wasn't nerfed compared to his beginning of Episode 3 self, he was nerfed compared to the massive dark side amp he got that shot him above Yoda and Mace
    If I'm not remembering wrong, the novelization said something along the lines of Obi Wan achieving a state of Oneness with the force in a similar way to what happened against Grevious while Anakin's dark side amps were growing

    • @the_rose_garden01
      @the_rose_garden01 Před 2 lety +11

      You're right in that last paragraph, the Force was moving with and chose Obi-Wan in that fight. It's not that Anakin was nerfed, it's that Obi-Wan was buffed

    • @AlukaXD
      @AlukaXD Před rokem +1

      plus my guy arrogance made him get his limbs cut off

    • @its_dey_mate
      @its_dey_mate Před rokem +11

      Aannd Obi-wan is the single greatest practitioner of Soresu. If anyone has a chance at beating Anakin, its someone who can go on the defensive longer than Anakin going on the offensive, until a mistake is made.

    • @tetrasphere8165
      @tetrasphere8165 Před rokem +6

      Obi would have definitely knew anakin better than the other way around. He kept watching sky guy run into battle leaving his master behind. Ben was always watching MR "no I'm taking him NOW!" And thats why Little Ani got fd up

    • @sinoxilurk4126
      @sinoxilurk4126 Před 11 měsíci +1

      anakin was "blinded with fury" in their RoTS duel. onlike obi wan he didnt think properly so i dont think their knowledge of each other cancels out

  • @guesswho8556
    @guesswho8556 Před 2 lety +21

    Gotta appreciate staying consistent with canon and not just making a composite video

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před 2 lety +9

      Combining the two continuities is so lazy to me

    • @guesswho8556
      @guesswho8556 Před 2 lety +1

      @@KeyIssues I agree. I'm worried some of your quotes might have been taken from novelizations of the movies before Disney made the retcon. Are those canon?

    • @calebejosesousarocha2921
      @calebejosesousarocha2921 Před 2 lety +1

      @@guesswho8556 According with Star Wars Books, it's canon inside of novelizations only what don't contradict the movies. What is very contradictory

  • @krxwnvxk3432
    @krxwnvxk3432 Před rokem

    Thanks for the upload, very informative

  • @crammothy
    @crammothy Před rokem +11

    Obi-Wan was still one of the best duelists in the order, being classified as a level 8 or 7 by Nick Gillard (stunt and fight coordinator of the prequels) depending on if there is a level 9 or not.

    • @edot7266
      @edot7266 Před rokem +2

      Dude was skilled enough to survive a full on 1v1 against Greievous. something that's quite impressive as a duelist.

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před rokem +8

      @@edot7266 grievous is really unimpressive

    • @jakielou1884
      @jakielou1884 Před rokem

      ​@@KeyIssues someone didn't see og clone wars miniseries

    • @ItsButterBean1020
      @ItsButterBean1020 Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@jakielou1884tbh that’s not canon anymore, Grievous sadly is a jobber

    • @spicefactor9604
      @spicefactor9604 Před 11 měsíci

      ​@@jakielou1884that ain't canon brah

  • @STOKEZGAMING
    @STOKEZGAMING Před rokem +11

    Also his suit is sort of a double-edged sword. It's pretty durable and his gloves can stop blasts and like you said fireproof and more, but on the other hand it's extremely uncomfortable but that works to his advantage and also its very weak to electricity, as Palpatine made sure if darth vader were to try to kill him, lightning would shut him down

    • @miguelcondadoolivar5149
      @miguelcondadoolivar5149 Před rokem +4

      Shutting down the suit doesn't halt an enraged Vader, his rage could probably keep him moving long enough to finish the fight or do a lot of damage.

    • @STOKEZGAMING
      @STOKEZGAMING Před rokem

      @Miguel Condado Olivar no I didn't mean shut down like that, I meant to shut that shit down as in best his ass up

  • @markjustdiditc
    @markjustdiditc Před rokem

    man this video is sick... really well done.... I salute you sir..

  • @captaincringe9480
    @captaincringe9480 Před 2 lety +7

    I cant believe I used to think vader would lose to yoda, too many people are spreading that 80% of sidious myth everywhere.

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před 2 lety +9

      Yeah that 80% thing is total nonsense, especially for canon

  • @rodan9773
    @rodan9773 Před 2 lety +25

    An awesome long video to talk about The Prime Sith Lord...Nice.
    Respect and keep up the epic work 😃👍.

  • @reckszkingzactivitiesrkat.4134

    Great break down. Im now subbed to your channel 🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @justaguy7230
    @justaguy7230 Před 2 lety +1

    Great work guys!! 👏

  • @brandonmazique
    @brandonmazique Před 2 lety

    incredible video! you got my sub!! may the force be with you! 🖐

  • @thewheelybinguy
    @thewheelybinguy Před 2 lety +2

    Please do more Star Wars videos it’s my favourite franchise other than marvel and DC also do a who is more powerful yoda or mace windu also love this channel keep up the good work

  • @Callum_Callum
    @Callum_Callum Před 2 lety

    Another great vid maaaaan! 👀

  • @girlthasquis6484
    @girlthasquis6484 Před měsícem

    This video did not feel like 42 minutes . The way you read and your tone/emphasis changes made it feel like a conversation. Well done mate 🤝🏾

  • @Jordanthomas95
    @Jordanthomas95 Před 2 měsíci

    Fantastic video. You should do an updated one with the recent Vader comics now that he is more on par with Palpatine

  • @absolutleynotanalien8096

    I think there was some force involved in how Hedda was able to "see" that ship or the strange nature of hyperspace wich is a difent dimension... or the creators once again failed to grasp the scale of things similar to how the clone army was able to fight a war across a major part of the galaxy with less than 1.2 milion units when the war started and i think it was around 6 milion in the end.

  • @jamesmonorow574
    @jamesmonorow574 Před 2 lety +4

    Another banger why am I not surprised

  • @dimond360_
    @dimond360_ Před rokem +3

    I think you should do another powerscaling tier list like what you did with Marvel but for Star Wars

  • @Crackmiser
    @Crackmiser Před 2 lety +46

    Every inquisitor could have fought him at once and they still would have only had about a 50/50 chance.
    edit: more like 2 out of 10

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před 2 lety +31

      Probably less than that 😭

    • @Jhappell224
      @Jhappell224 Před 2 lety +16

      Definitely less, he maims every single inquisitor when he first meets them just to teach them about pain.

    • @tariffictypist7372
      @tariffictypist7372 Před 2 lety +7

      Pretty sure half of them did. And we're embarrassed by him including limb chopping although it was sparring

    • @pampanamonick7076
      @pampanamonick7076 Před 2 lety +6

      50/50 at not dying in the first 20 seconds

    • @darth_vedant669
      @darth_vedant669 Před 2 lety +1

      Well it seems you are oblivious to the power of Vader compared to the inquisitor

  • @xXSonTJXx
    @xXSonTJXx Před 2 lety +1

    Amazing video!

  • @helloimtobi
    @helloimtobi Před rokem +4

    one of the best things disney has done for vader is give him mustafar, his castle, and all his backstory.

  • @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375

    I wanna see you do Omni Man vs DCEU Superman

    • @gliizee
      @gliizee Před 2 lety +4

      Omni Man stomps lmao.
      TV show Omni Man also stomps.

    • @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375
      @justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 Před 2 lety +3

      @@gliizee isn’t Tv Show Omni Man stopping a meteor the size of Texas like Moon Level

    • @gliizee
      @gliizee Před 2 lety

      @@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375 Oh shit ur right. Best feat for DCEU Superman is moving those tectonic plates in MoS in that scene of the newspapers on a wall.
      So in actuality both versions of Omni Man stomp.

    • @Jsipki265
      @Jsipki265 Před 2 lety +1

      @@gliizee lol not a stomp

    • @gliizee
      @gliizee Před 2 lety

      @@Jsipki265 Lol it is a stomp 💀

  • @CRISIS_COMICS
    @CRISIS_COMICS Před 2 lety +12

    Double you

  • @michaeln_nightwolf
    @michaeln_nightwolf Před rokem +2

    You're, extremely, talented. Thank you for focusing on my favorite thing in the entire world: Star Wars, and my favorite character of all, time: Anakin/Darth Vader. I 100% identify with Anakin/Vader. I understand that pull to the Darkside and also to the Light. Extreme, trauma and of course abuse, etc, leads some, people to channel their, inner "Vader". That rage and hatred can be POWERFUL which I believe makes Darth Vader so, much, more POWERFUL than Sidious could ever, DREAM of being. He knew this, which is why he psychologically manipulated Vader to never challenge him, because Palpatine knew that the day Vader turned on him, Vader would DESTROY him. Vader's pain and hatred as The Chosen One, made him unstoppable. That, type of rage is not to be underestimated.

  • @MegaChorro123
    @MegaChorro123 Před rokem

    Great video!

  • @weeaboo-warrior
    @weeaboo-warrior Před 2 lety +8

    I'm pretty sure Palpatine was just saying the kyber crystal/final order powers were at his disposal, not that his force power was equal to it.

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před 2 lety +2

      I'm pretty sure I'm right.

    • @weeaboo-warrior
      @weeaboo-warrior Před 2 lety +6

      @@KeyIssues Can you further explain your reasoning for interpreting his statement that way?

    • @MOVIEPOWER_YT
      @MOVIEPOWER_YT Před 2 lety +1

      @@KeyIssues
      You are wrong

    • @dimond360_
      @dimond360_ Před rokem +4

      I agree with Weeaboo, If Palpatine had the equal power of all those kyber crystals then he would have just been destroying planets himself and wouldn't have needed the final order. Weeaboo should do another rebuttal video like with the Ahsoka one

    • @crammothy
      @crammothy Před rokem

      @@KeyIssues I read the comic and it doesn’t seem to me like Palpatine is controlling it using the force, it just seems like it’s just another asset of his.

  • @joshkrause2977
    @joshkrause2977 Před rokem +2

    Darth Vader with a beskar armor enhanced suit would be insane.

  • @coreymccray1100
    @coreymccray1100 Před 2 lety +2

    Of course, I want to see an video for Yoda.

  • @youngmoneyclutch
    @youngmoneyclutch Před 2 lety

    Amazing video.

  • @eldricshadowchaser5454
    @eldricshadowchaser5454 Před 2 lety +5

    Have you considered doing a video on his Old EU/Legends counterpart?

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před 2 lety +5

      My friend Crisis has already made one. Check it out in the description!

  • @Venom-rr1vg
    @Venom-rr1vg Před rokem

    Nice.. also, your videos are quite informative and entertaining! could you possibly do a How Powerful is Electro (amazing spider-man 2, or no way home)? thx

  • @Mikerille
    @Mikerille Před 2 lety +37

    Post suit Vader is soooooo much stronger than pre suit Vader, idk why but people still seem to think that Vader got weaker after mustafar, but the canon comic he killed kirak infila without a lightsaber (which amps a force user) and when heavily conflicted (he almost died bleeding the crystal a day after he was so conflicted) and kirak is confirmed stronger than oneness boost obi wan, and mace.
    He only becomes leaps and bounds superior after that.

    • @redace4821
      @redace4821 Před 2 lety +10

      The correct way to say is Vader is more limited with the suit on.
      But his Force prowess and Lightsaber impact is far more powerful than he was pre suited.
      But of course, the suit limit is mobility, and that's it.

    • @Mikerille
      @Mikerille Před 2 lety +7

      @@redace4821 I wouldn’t even say his suit limits his mobility, same as it never did any samurai. He still seems extremely mobile in every fight I’ve ever seen him in. Doin twirls, backflips, massive side dodges, idk I just don’t get the feel the suit limited anything.

    • @a-1moves750
      @a-1moves750 Před rokem +4

      George Lucas said he did he said his power dropped 40% so if Lucas said it then it’s law:

    • @Mikerille
      @Mikerille Před rokem +10

      @@a-1moves750 wrong, since Lucas doesn’t have anything to do with Star Wars works. What you’re referring to is the extended lore, where Vader is pathetically weak.

    • @TheBombasticFatRat
      @TheBombasticFatRat Před rokem +1

      He's more powerful yes but has less potential to grow

  • @DaddyHensei
    @DaddyHensei Před rokem +4

    Anakin/Vader is only able to be defeated when he’s conflicted. If his mind is in the game though, lightside or darkside there’s no hope for his opponent.
    Anakin/Vader is emotionally vulnerable and can’t handle them as well as his jedi and sith counter parts. It’s his weakness, always has been.

    • @BringeroftheNight
      @BringeroftheNight Před 8 měsíci

      Palpatine had to nerf his suit cuz even after mustafar if he gave Vader an amazing suit then Vader would've killed him right after the surgery. He even tried to in the comics but the suit was susceptible to lightning and Palpatine had him on a leash for that reason. Palpatine is a giant pussy

  • @557deadpool
    @557deadpool Před rokem +2

    14:17 God I wish that was me 😩

  • @shadowdragon3521
    @shadowdragon3521 Před 2 lety +7

    All that power, and yet he could not use the force to heal his injuries and regrow his limbs. What a shame

    • @Bazonkaz
      @Bazonkaz Před 2 lety

      Probably felt he deserved it

    • @vyktorehon5995
      @vyktorehon5995 Před 2 lety

      He also couldn't get no bitches

    • @adilhussain5154
      @adilhussain5154 Před rokem +1

      I’m pretty sure this is canon and maybe you can correct me if I’m wrong but vader actually tried healing his injuries and when he did he felt much better and wasn’t in as much pain and wasn’t as angry so the light side grew within him and he was returning to anakin but when he did that he lost the ability to heal any more as he needed to be vader to heal himself so it just reverted back to his injured self

  • @denvertaylor9195
    @denvertaylor9195 Před 2 lety

    Yes! More please.

  • @bellsama6588
    @bellsama6588 Před rokem +2

    It is said that Confliction is the worst thing to happen to a force user because it tend to happen during fights or life or death situations

  • @idancohen4753
    @idancohen4753 Před 2 lety

    Power scalinggggg. Thank youuuuu

  • @lorulelegend4362
    @lorulelegend4362 Před 2 lety +1

    Wait, Garrick throwing in that video of him playing Bass.. you ain’t slick

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před 2 lety +1

      I just want my subs to know how cute I am

    • @lorulelegend4362
      @lorulelegend4362 Před 2 lety

      @@KeyIssues The only sub that matters knows. 🤤

  • @natashascullion5241
    @natashascullion5241 Před rokem +1

    can you do part 2 of the sith and jedi weakest to strongest teir list

  • @massielhernandez241
    @massielhernandez241 Před rokem

    Now this mans is even mord overpowered.

  • @silvertongue-242_99
    @silvertongue-242_99 Před 2 lety +4

    Yes thank you I agree obi wan at that time against Anakin was not on that level. Now if after he left Ani to die on Mustafa, if he was training all that time I could believe he reaches and possibly surpasses grand master jedi

  • @stealthven2352
    @stealthven2352 Před 9 měsíci +1

    You can actually scale lightsabers at “Small Planet” Level but comparing the two lightsabers to Palpatine’s lightning which can shut down many, many large ships which can survive faster-than-light speed

  • @darthnexus9570
    @darthnexus9570 Před rokem

    I'll tell you what buddy, I've listened to two of your videos so far maybe three, and if you do a video on Darth Sidious, you will have gained a subscriber... An yes I know about the Darth Plagueis novel, yet I would like to hear another perspective on it, someone that would draw from all materials...

  • @damaniqphillip2756
    @damaniqphillip2756 Před 2 lety +8

    Awesome

  • @THE_SSHADOW_REAPER_OF_DEATH
    @THE_SSHADOW_REAPER_OF_DEATH Před 4 měsíci +1

    In the end Darrh Vader is still the deadliest force user alive

  • @ThomasCaffarelli3482
    @ThomasCaffarelli3482 Před 2 lety +5

    Can you power scale darth maul he has been getting underrated lately

  • @lumburgapalooza
    @lumburgapalooza Před 9 měsíci

    If you're gonna put a quote or book excerpt on screen, please put the source on screen alongside it. It not only makes it easier for those interested in the material to track it down but properly credits the author at the time of quotation.

  • @idekbruh7449
    @idekbruh7449 Před 2 lety +4

    So in your opinion, a non-conflicted Vader would have beaten Obi Wan? Nice video btw.

  • @thelastprime4978
    @thelastprime4978 Před 2 lety +1

    Anakins emotions were rampant uncontrollable in the duel on mustafar and his master knew his fighting style and anakin better than anyone which is what led to his defeat at the hands of obi-wan

  • @bloodytyran9245
    @bloodytyran9245 Před 2 lety +5

    It’s not exactly a feat, but he also was born from the force which is quite unique and his son reached force highs he never did by being able to create a black hole.

    • @postsniper-7532
      @postsniper-7532 Před 2 lety +1

      Depending on how you view it sidious hinself used the darkside to impregnate scmee skywalker making him the greatest force user ever

    • @achimpanzee9210
      @achimpanzee9210 Před 2 lety +3

      Pretty sure the black hole feat is in legends which is in a whole different all park from canon.

    • @ccl7983
      @ccl7983 Před rokem +1

      @@postsniper-7532 the creators of that comic said it didn’t happen and it was all a vision .

    • @postsniper-7532
      @postsniper-7532 Před rokem +1

      @@ccl7983 all of what didn’t happen because anakin being a created from the force is cannon I only added my two cents

    • @giosbizarreart9048
      @giosbizarreart9048 Před rokem

      @@postsniper-7532 honestly that theory is wack asf

  • @TheBombasticFatRat
    @TheBombasticFatRat Před rokem

    I feel that people forget Plo Koon out-dueled Yoda

  • @AdrianM0816
    @AdrianM0816 Před 2 lety

    Good video

  • @TheWoodcookie
    @TheWoodcookie Před 2 lety +6

    Ive always felt Anakin had a higher potential than Vader but he did not know how to control and anakin never losing as much of his body may have been stronger than Palpatine

  • @SchwarzSchwertkampfer
    @SchwarzSchwertkampfer Před rokem +1

    7:24 in a nutshell.
    Anakin body language wanted to die.

  • @Vader255
    @Vader255 Před 2 lety +2

    You ever gonna rank all the jedi and sith for canon. Also are you going to do that kylo vid you mentioned awhile back

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před 2 lety +3

      I said in my mace video that I’m gonna focus on individual videos instead of rankings

    • @Vader255
      @Vader255 Před 2 lety +2

      Oh alright well keep up the good work work this was a fire vid

  • @Hmoney42069
    @Hmoney42069 Před rokem

    Video idea
    It would be cool if you were to power scale Dr Manhattan from the watchmen

  • @shumayelkhan8154
    @shumayelkhan8154 Před 2 lety +1

    He did take on the gods of the force

  • @daisydoodle5915
    @daisydoodle5915 Před rokem +1

    You should do a Scarlet Witch update

  • @honoursplace3291
    @honoursplace3291 Před 2 lety +4

    I thought the last rematch he and Obi-Wan had made Vader look a fool. If there is to be a second season, or perhaps some other show/movie set before Rogue One, I believe they have to make the Dark Lord threatening again

    • @rustledentity5511
      @rustledentity5511 Před 2 lety +7

      If they ended it with Obi-wan being buried alive by Vader, and Vader walks away seemingly triumphant then that would have been a logical ending to their duel. You can still have Obi-wan use the Force to escape, since he needs to survive long enough to teach Luke about the Force in episode 4. Vader's supremacy over Obi-wan was perfectly logical prior to his Super Saiyan power up after he escapes being buried alive.
      The overall problem with Obi-wan having that kind of power level is his lack of combat experience over the time gap. Vader has not just been training in the Dark side, but has been fighting a war against Rebels, therefore his combat skills are fresh and sharp. Even if Obi-wan had kept up with his training (which the show was stupid to say that he hadn't) he would still be rusty. This is to say nothing of the VAST wealth of Expanded Universe content where Vader has pulled off magnificent feats with the Force, some of which are even greater than what's displayed in the show. The majority of Obi-wan's appearances in the Expanded Universe kept him confined to Tatooine (which is where he should be) therefore he hasn't had any grand space adventures to sharpen his ability with the Force. The evidence for Vader being powerful is overwhelming, whereas the evidence for Obi-wan is close to non-existent.

    • @CRISIS_COMICS
      @CRISIS_COMICS Před 2 lety +4

      @@rustledentity5511 Vader was conflicted against Obi in the show, non-conflicted Vader would power bomb Obi. His eyes were blue during the fight, and he just let Obi get away after burning him when he could’ve easily reobtained him.

    • @joshuabridgman7187
      @joshuabridgman7187 Před 2 lety

      @@CRISIS_COMICS completely agree.

    • @starzilla2975
      @starzilla2975 Před 2 lety +2

      @@CRISIS_COMICS This is even implied when Palpatine claims that his feelings for Obi Wan had weakened him.

    • @naterybar9106
      @naterybar9106 Před 2 lety

      @@CRISIS_COMICS you're exactly right bro that's what people don't seem to realize Vader was far from weak power wise he was conflicted just like he was conflicted against ahsoka every time Vader fight somebody from his past that he loved her care for Anakin peeks through messing up later in his connection with the dark side I mean it's evident when he's fighting Obi-Wan he's swinging wildly lunging at Obi-Wan grunting and like you said the first eye you see when helmet is cracked is Anakin's eye not sith yellow Vader's. Also vader was crying! Come on guys that's Anakin crying through Vader. Also vader would have never let Obi-Wan mash up on his control panel like that if he was fully tapped in and just Darth Vader in that moment no way.

  • @TheFrostyguy101
    @TheFrostyguy101 Před 2 lety +3

    More star wars !!

  • @jarmoliebrand2005
    @jarmoliebrand2005 Před rokem

    35:26
    Don’t forget Vader’s suit is a superconductor.

  • @ThatGuy76985
    @ThatGuy76985 Před 6 měsíci

    Shoutout to Ahsoka and especially Cere for putting up the best fight against Vader in canon

  • @AdrianM0816
    @AdrianM0816 Před 2 lety

    At 24:07, that quote has no canon value. It's from the blog+news section of the website which is explicitly stated not canon/official by Matt Martin of the story group. Only the databank portion of the site is canon.

  • @jeebeeheebee
    @jeebeeheebee Před rokem

    This dude really felt like he had to tell us what "prime" meant in context and then said unmerciless lol

  • @Youzan808
    @Youzan808 Před 11 měsíci +3

    Obito vs Darth Vader

  • @MorphousInfinity
    @MorphousInfinity Před rokem

    Wow, the Nerd Force is strong with this one.

  • @KingKong-ux3gg
    @KingKong-ux3gg Před 2 lety +4

    That’s the things. Yes of course Obi Wan loved Anakin, but he gave up on him twice and very quickly. Luke never gave up that’s why he got him redeemed.

  • @Bucky-hendersen-troutguy

    He could be unstoppable

  • @MaverickX578
    @MaverickX578 Před 2 lety

    9:30 on that day, Darth Vader was born

  • @AtarusArchive
    @AtarusArchive Před 2 lety

    should make a kit fisto video

  • @trasegorsuch5140
    @trasegorsuch5140 Před 2 lety

    Can you do a video on Marvel’s Clandestines?

  • @ryanmalhotra9553
    @ryanmalhotra9553 Před 2 lety

    Can u do the legends version pls love ur vids

  • @nurucdo
    @nurucdo Před rokem

    Could u make a video on luke he has gotten some amazing new feats in the recent novel

  • @lorulelegend4362
    @lorulelegend4362 Před 2 lety

    42 minutes? That’s a girthy video

  • @trevturp6891
    @trevturp6891 Před 7 měsíci +1

    Vader didn’t learn that Leia was his daughter until Return of The Jedi.

  • @daelinmiller4437
    @daelinmiller4437 Před rokem

    Do a full potential Anikan video

  • @genozp2328
    @genozp2328 Před rokem +2

    I can't say I know as in-depth the knowledge as you've clearly just shown, because this is a very detailed and well done breakdown, but I do see a few things that were definitely left out in some capacity or another. Darth Vader was never actually taught by Darth Sidious, other than minor lessons, to prevent him from gaining an upper hand. At least to my knowledge, despite wanting Anakin Skywalker to one day surpass him, after his fall on mustafar, he didn't believe that Darth Vader could ever regain the potential he once had as the chosen one of the force Anakin Skywalker. For that reason, Darth Sidious never considered Vader good enough to surpass him, yet also never found anyone capable of surpassing even Vader. Anakin Skywalker, and likely Luke Skywalker, we're supposed to be the chosen ones with nigh unlimited potential, and though the potential of Darth Vader was still far more vast than that of any other known Jedi or Sith outside of Sidious himself, Darth Vader was not capable of ever regaining the potential he once held. Again, at least to my knowledge.

    • @sheluvprada
      @sheluvprada Před rokem

      you just said a whole lotta nothing that is outdated and plain wrong. Please look into the canon relationship between Vader and Sidious.

  • @doddood5516
    @doddood5516 Před rokem

    I used to not think the suit was so bad until i realized they didnt put him in a bacta tank, they just stuck him in a chaffy jagged suit with no skin

  • @bensmith8548
    @bensmith8548 Před 2 lety +3

    I'm not sure Vader scales above Yoda or Windu, maybe I'm still biased from Legends but it just seems like a reach to use those Tarkin quotes to make such a definitive statement. I'm not sure how Vapaad works in canon, but depending on legends interpretation, it's kinda a trump card against dark siders. And Yoda can fight against Sideous to a standstill - not sure I'd give that to Vader. Great video though, loved the breakdown overall and agree a lot. I might just not know enough of canon

    • @postsniper-7532
      @postsniper-7532 Před 2 lety +1

      Did dooku not use vapaad and anakin was the only one capable of beating dooku if anakin was not an emotional wreck obi wan wouldn’t have made it off mustafar

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před 2 lety +7

      Vapaad works completely differently in canon than Legends.
      Sidious gets much stronger over time in canon. He surpassed Yoda millions of times over by the OT.
      There are multiple statements that Vader > Yoda and Mace. I provided 3 in this video.

    • @achimpanzee9210
      @achimpanzee9210 Před 2 lety +4

      Legends is even better for Vader. Vader is stated by palpatine to be able to kill him. This is the same palpatine who already had control of force storms which tear into hyperspace. This is 5D. Most I can say for mace is that he’s possibly universal+ using Dooku pulling power from across the universe. Legends Vader is just too strong for the clone wars Jedi

    • @calebejosesousarocha2921
      @calebejosesousarocha2921 Před 2 lety +1

      @@achimpanzee9210 Yeah, but RotJ-Luke was stated capable of kill both Vader and Palpatine in legends

    • @achimpanzee9210
      @achimpanzee9210 Před 2 lety +1

      @@calebejosesousarocha2921 um ok? Luke is a monster lmfao

  • @sobekapep8320
    @sobekapep8320 Před 2 lety +1

    If you are free to do so, can you source the calcs you used in this? Especially the 760 teraton one. I am planning on doing a calc tread on SW soon and it could most definitely be useful for me.
    Also, nice video. Though, NGL, you really highballed SW characters at some points.

    • @CRISIS_COMICS
      @CRISIS_COMICS Před 2 lety +3

      It’s consistent…not a highball. Idk y ppl don’t want Star Wars to be strong. Do y’all want to run Yoda’s fade irl or something?

    • @sobekapep8320
      @sobekapep8320 Před 2 lety

      @@CRISIS_COMICS First off, no, no, it really isn't...at all. Aside from some valuage statements, there is nothing supporting MFTL reflex Star Wars with FTL reflex fodder and so far, the best one can scale Vader without any amps like on Mortis or the Force Engine is to his Mustafar Earthquake and Storm feat, that one isn't even debatle, you just can't scale any force user to the Death Star aside from absolute god tiers, like the Ones. The biggest reason being they wouldn't have needed it otherwise, something everyone should be able to logic.
      If you use Mortis Anakin or Force Engine Vader however, he is Galaxy to Universal, which are pretty solid.
      Which, mind you, is something I wouldn't have said if I didn't want Star Wars to be strong. My concern is logic, in every single power scaling for anything. Not "wanting someone to be strong or weak." That's fanbratism, not power scaling.
      Also, my main cornern are the calcs, so I don't see why are you butting in.

    • @StarWarsNegsVerses
      @StarWarsNegsVerses Před 2 lety +1

      @@sobekapep8320
      um fyi vader casually reacts to blaster bolts and iirc he even reacted to hyperspace hich allows mFTL++++++ speed
      and you're also downplaying vader and the ones

    • @StarWarsNegsVerses
      @StarWarsNegsVerses Před 2 lety

      @@CRISIS_COMICS ikr people don't think star wars is that strong when it is

    • @sobekapep8320
      @sobekapep8320 Před 2 lety

      @@StarWarsNegsVerses Blaster bolts have calculated speeds around hypersonic range, that's not what makes SW characters extremely fast. It's reacting to force lightning and a few instances of reacting to real, light-based lasers that do. Also, hyperspace speed feats are rather wonky TBH. Even normal people can manuver their space craft in those and in SW bullets are used, rarely, but still and are plenty effective.
      At least Galaxy, likely Universal, is lowballing? Are you *Beep*ing kidding me?

  • @arturtourinho6449
    @arturtourinho6449 Před 2 lety

    Please do more star wars videos

    • @KeyIssues
      @KeyIssues  Před 2 lety +1

      We will, assuming these videos get views :) so tell a friend haha